5. The Queen in the Panther's Skin | Tamar | AoE2: DE The Mountain Royals Campaign
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- Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2023
- The grand finale!
In this scenario, an aging Tamar must launch one final conquest against Khwarazm Persia. First, you have to raid as many villages as you can to build up population and resources, and then go all out against the Shah's armies.
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Me: Build three castles and spend vast resources on tons of units immediately.
Ornlu: Casually starts booming and suicides his starting army 😂
I cant believe he didnt destroyed the green base fully because he forgot about ONE tower...
When your opponents are Persians, your UU is the War Elephant lol
You sure made the second half of this one a hell of a lot harder for yourself than necessary with that early aggro pull lol. But nice job actually seeing it out and managing to come back from it anyway
He also made it more difficult with getting elite monaspa at like 20 pop.
Ornlu there is a new custom campaign called aegidius a roman campaign and it is fully voiced and an awesome campaign i would love yo see your playthrough on it
I loved the Mountain Royals campaigns! I mainly come back to AOE2 for the custom campaigns and both the official and fanmade ones are amazing. I also really appreciate the new focus on creating civs in parts of the world that tend to get neglected (Last Khans, Dynastines of India, Mountain Royals). It feels awesome to play campaigns connected to your heritage vs. the same europeans civs over and over again
i hope they make an east asian ( japanese , chinese & korean ) campaigns dlc next, been waiting for ages for those.
maybe they could make an Odo Nobunaga campaign for japanese, three kingdom era for korean and Wu Zetian campaign for chinese.
and maybe add for japanese campaign only a Sōhei warrior monk.
Same here. I hope they also add campaign dlc for Vietnamese and Cham since they offered interesting historical moments, just to name a few:
- The defensive campaigns of Tran Dynasty against Mongol-Yuan armies (1258, 1285 and 1287)
- The defensive campaigns of Korea, led by a Vietnamese refuge general named Ly Long Tuong against the Mongol armies (1232 and 1253)
- The life and exploits of the last strong Raja of the Cham, Po Binasuor, against Dai Viet. (1367-1390)
They could add a new Elephant and Navy civ called the Cham so they could make some dlcs revolve around Dai Viet and Champa Kingdom historical rivalry and some Cham campaigns.
Even if they all fight the same civ, civ swapping with different architecture would still work for those because they have gunpowder and cavalry
I couldn't agree more! Surely one will come. They are some of the most interesting civs and the handful of standalone missions are really good, a full campaign for each civ is certainly needed.
Currently east asian campaign lacks also in Return of Rome, the new Vietnamese civilization should deserve at least a dedicated scenario.
I gotta say the lack of small easter eggs in the new campaigns is a bit sad, there are a few mistresses in Tamar campaign, but not even a single Ornlu the wolf (refund material). In the older campaigns you could often find that random bandit and a house tucked in a corner of the map, that was fun to look for
The ultimate monaspa hit squad scenario, with the bonus damage against buildings and high attack it reminds me a lot of the steppe lancers on DE release, just shredding through evrything
I think the woman who told the story is Rusudan of Georgia who is the daughter of David and Tamar the Great. She succeeded her brother George IV and also is the only one survive the Mongol conquest and the last ruler of Georgia Golden Age, the one defeat her is Subutai and Jebe with an army much smaller. She said your father is the greatest conquerors so I assume the one point his bow at her is Jochi, Genghis Khan first son - father of Batu Khan who found the Golden Horde.
I’d love to see the day when hussar is redesign to have these wings cut off. I really like the new Persian civ. Tbh they seem pretty OP. This bonus civ with cavalary generating gold for each unit killed is insane. And the castle firing with bullets is dope. I hope these features will come to other civs because it’s pretty unfair only Persian get these dope features. 😂
Good recovery after starting the second part so badly.
I personally think Tamar is the best of the new campaigns, though there were some great scenarios in the others as well. Now that there are four DLCs for AoE2 DE, maybe you can do a new top 10 best campaign scenarios? There are loads of great scenarios in these DLCs that deserve to be mentioned. Some of my favorites are:
A Man of God (Longshanks 2)
Bohemond and the Emperor (Hautevilles 3)
Wonder of the World (Hautevilles 5)
The Tatar Yoke (Algirdas and Kestutis 3)
Duel of the Dukes (Jadwiga 3)
Vytautas' Crusade (Jadwiga 5)
The Golden City (Jan Zizka 4)
The Battle of Panipat (Babur 4)
Rising Star (Rajendra 3)
Bloody Crestwaves (Thoros 4)
The Protectorate (Tamar 3)
Tamar the Builder (Tamar 4)
Not sure which scenarios are your favorite, but would love to hear your take ;)
And also, at some point, please place The Mountain Royals campaigns on the campaign tier list ;)
The Khwarazm Shah talks a lot of smack for someone who died to Mongol champions
Deserved it when Khwarazm even lost to Georgia 😂
@@ricardohoang8452 he was the first one to beat mongols (minor victory but he broke the Mongols' undefeated streak first time)
@@yusufyuceturk1680 Still, Mongols conquered Khwarazm tho 😅
I just finished this level. Monk spamming the final half of the level felt so satisfying
what i learn from this scenario: any levels with fully boomed persian as enemy is easy as you can just vululu their war elephants
The Initial part is definetly something you cant do first try, the position of enemies, the bases layout, unit composition can be tricky. On my 5th or 6th try that was successfull by the end i sent 2 monks and 5 skirmisher to the western ciry only to go through it while focusing on the smaller villages and spilitting between the northern and southern fort.
You can actually I did it first try its just you need a plan, mine was 5 monaspas scouts with 2 monaspas armies clearing opposing sides
Reading up about kings and queens of Georgia after Tamars rule make me hope someone makes future custum campaigns. Love learning about history.
Epic Vephxist' q' Aosani.
Written for Queen Tamara
The first time I did this scenario I didn't kill the Ghorids, and I honestly found the second half much more enjoyable - they put out many many more troops and are easily as strong as the Persians.
It took me 3 tries, 3 whole tries, to get that achievement for this level. First time I went north to the first base, then south to the next base, then west to take that city before taking down both Blue and Green before the timer ran out where I missed 2 supply depots. Second time I (having used the post game return to map to find the depots) moved faster and built a second army to deal with Green, but I still failed because I couldn't take down Blue's TC fast enough. Third try was when I realized my mistake, I built Pikemen when I should have stuck to cavalry to the depots and cities and Blue, so I tried it again and got all objectives with only around 7 minutes left on the timer.
That achievement frustrated me but was so satisfying to get, and the final battle was really fun and interesting, I chose to have the Armenians help me as they were always there for Tamar since the beginning of the campaign, and I really like sieging the Persians and knocking down each castle one by one until achieving victory.
Best strat I found was to go for the western-most persian town and convert the elephants there to help you out with the other towns. Blue is also closeby so trebing their TC doesn't take long. However, I was only ever able to do 1 or the other (kill green or kill blue). I either don't have enough soldiers or everybody is too far north to kill the other. I have to imagine there's a way. It didn't hurt me too much in the final battle - I spammed castles near my army and converted over 30 elephants lmao. Combinded with halbs heavy cav archer menopauses (lol) it was quite the army and very rewarding to trample over everything.
Also I appreciate the georgians telling me to GETYOUASS and get DATASS throughout this campaign. so cheeky of them
Thanks for a very useful walk through regarding the achievement.
So, this campaign is combination of drama, politic, and......Ornlu? 🤣
This one was hard. I only managed to liberate the four Persian cities, pillage three supply deposit sites and took on Ghorid's Fortress by taking on one castle most of the buildings, but failed to take out the final castle before the timer ran out. As for the rest of the scenario, it was a long battle since most of the enemies constantly attacked, but it took a while to simply systematically take them out.
I took the ressources for the final battle, you get a huge bank and spam monaspas, halbs and cav archers forever with some eco added behind. I wonder about your low usage of CA btw, they only miss thumbring and felt really helpful against halbs and as DPS behind my monaspa
The only con is you give up the markets to trade with. So if you can snowball the res, you are ok, but slower players may need the market to trade with for longterm sustain.
One advice, anyone who wants to max this scenario, start with the northern city, then the Turkomans, then go around in an anti clockwise manner, and keep 6 - 7 monks for the westernmost city. And, destroy every single building of the Ghurids, including towers, else the Auxiliary forces will be way too large. In the final battle, train Monaspa/Halb/Monk. Your monks can convert their eles in the initial battle, and keep on converting eles/Imp camels to have an easier time, sine youll have ~10 relics from blue
Tamar 3 and 5 are my most favourite missions in this DLC replayed them many times this mision felt like finally of Jadwiga. I got lucky in mission 5 managed to actually get achivement on first try I sent few monaspas to scout and cleared everything with 2 monaspas armies
Ironically many urban battles of this game remember Stalingrad or Madrid in Panzer Corps 2, they are intense and truly brutal.
I didn't believe in the power of Monaspa so I went cavalier in this scenario... Made it harder for myself than it should've been
That is good way to use more monks to "recruit" enemies war elephants to defense first. Then the AI send more pikemen to attack you, so that you need more archers. Then the AIsend the knight to attack your army... control the buffering area with the suitable defense force on the specific areas!
The second half becomes more easy if u convert those elephants u can easily push as soon as the battle is finished
31:06.1. The Leopard Skin Knight's Choice
2.the Wizard architect asks the King for as much gold as is needed to build the Castle for the Much Beloved Princess
You can treb the depots outside of enemy aggro range.
I love monaspas is canon power unit
Test players the ability of concentrating the defense, development at the starting tactics. The inter-defense could benefit the development to reduce the comsumption and store the military power. BUT AI knows your weakness so you need to 'set trap' to the AI too. Calculating the AI how to calculate your tactics at the limited area!
i finished the first half with 5 mins remaining, all with just the UU. i cleared the south then west and finally north. just run a group of 30 UU to blue town centre. went into the 2nd half with alot of resources
yes you can even trick the AI to open the gate and just run for the TC.
It's been 4+ years since you played the previous AOC and Forgotten Campaigns of DE. Could you do them again now that almost all of them have significantly changed with all the new patches, new units, new civs and quite a few scenario changes?
For example, in Barbarossa2, the Polish were Slavs when you played them on YT, then they became Lithuanians and now they're Polish.
Unfortunately, I don't think there would be that much interest in replaying through campaigns that only have minor changes to enemy unit compositions
also is this the same Shah who gets killed in a surprise attack in Ghengis Khan?
I liked all of these scenarios. I feel they were very easy though. I just rushed with Monaspas.
Really enjoyed this DLC. Tamar was my favorite overall, best story line and scenario design/variation. Loved Thoros for being the only challenging campaign and Ismail for its post-imp ele/savar deathball.
I have two major gripes though.
1. Hero upgrade mechanics - why did the devs skip one of the coolest mechanics in the game? Why are there no hero upgrade triggers like Jadwiga/Rajendra? Personally thought Tamar would be perfect for this.
2. Difficulty - Ismail/Tamar on hard are way too easy. Thoros is the only challenging campaign and should be the base line for a campaign on hard. Ismail is way too easy the second you have eco for savar/eles and Ornlu just showed how easy Tamar 5 is (easily smashing the time challenge and surviving a ele/savar/camel death ball with like 3 monks). Don’t nerf Thoros further, increase the difficulty on the other two.
i loved this campaign, though i did find this 3-sword campaign easier than thoros as a 1-sword! im still stuck on Thoros 3 on Hard, but managed this entire campaign on Hard extremely well. do you have any tips?
Did you see my video on it? It's a tough defense early on, but just hanging in there until you get enough army works just fine
@@OrnLu_AoE Sure did! I think I just play too slowly to be able to do the initial Teuton attack on Hard, on Standard it never happens. I'm not a whiz with hotkeys yet despite playing this since AoK in like 2006 lol
32:34 - Lmao
This would be fun in co-op.
You and and a friendo against all this shite
Will you also upload playthroughs of the newly ported AOE1 campaigns?
Yup! Probs next week. Am busy the rest of this week with Thanksgiving and admin-ing/casting the Cartographers
I'm surprised you didn't restart a 2nd time.
how you did masterpiece achivement?¨
Thanks, great video! Personally, I enjoyed Ismail's part the most. What are your thoughts on that?
That will be for the tier list videos ;D
@@OrnLu_AoE juhu!! Waiting 😍
Am i missing something but who is she talking to?
Tamar’s daughter is the narrator
@fenixx123 yeah but who is she narrating to in game, I feel like they are Mongols but who is the leader
Tamar's daughter is talking to Ogedei Khan (it's mentioned in one of the earlier scenarios)
@OrnLu_AoE oh well damn rip Georgia
@@OrnLu_AoETamar's daughter gained the respect of Ogedei Khan by helping him kill 40 minutes
I think they should have made a campaign for the Turks too, “idk why” this is funny because the devs made the campaigns of all civs around Anatolia except the Turks which they were the center and the most dominant civ of the Anatolian history
They reworked the Persians to represent some Turkic peoples as well. Ex. Shirvan (modern Azerbaijan) and Shah Ismail/Qizilbash are both Turkic.
@@Irtaza9993 I was trying to define the Turks as Ottomans or Seljuks
GO SKIP ALL GAY INTRO GO 4 min and skip 19 min 30
overall a pretty poor campaign in my books. was way to easy unfortunately
You didn't like it but calling it "poor" is a little bit far stretched, it ticks all boxes of a great campaign, the scenarii concepts were all great, and it feels easier than it should be mostly due to bugged Monaspas' attack. Also, AOE2 at the moment has such a canyon between players' skill levels, that it is basically impossible to fit all players' expectations with only 3 difficulty settings. If you're a regular custom campaign player, of course you'll have a stroll even on Hard, but for the average player, Hard can feel pretty challenging already. If only 5% of your player base manages to play a campaign on Hard it's a problem.
@@KroM234 dont get me wrong, i really liked some scenarios (design wise), BUT the difficulty level compared to other scenarios is not matched. I didnt need to restart even one scenario once, being said that i restarted many other scenarios! Yet, for this alone i would only give 3/5 stars, because i was bored basically the whole time, even though i highly enjoy campaigns. One extra star minus, because there is no sceario i will keep in mind, which i did with many others, e.g. Jadwiga. I even told my friends, non campaign players, to play those.
@@NickHalden47 Fair enough, but I always keep in mind what the AOK/AOC campaigns were like in comparison to the new ones (if you put nostalgia aside), and sometimes I feel most of the new campaigns are all 5/5 on that basis. But you're right in regard of the difficulty.
Respectfully disagree. Imo once the Monaspa bug gets fixed (they essentially triple dip into extra bonus damage vs buildings), the scenarios should be a much more compelling challenge
Yet alone this scenario is kind of a copy of the last jadwiga, but it’s essentially easier and the bonus dmg plays almost no role