AoE2: DE Dawn of the Dukes | Jadwiga | 6. The Fruits of Her Labor
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2021
- A short, but challenging conclusion to our Polish campaign!
In this scenario, you play as Jogaila, who must face off against the Teutonic Order with the Polish Army and his brother Vytautas. You have only a short while to complete all of the optional objectives, each of which gives you a boost for the final battle. After the timer elapses, it's a matter of winning an all-out fight against the crusaders!
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The intro to this scenario legitimately moved me. No campaign comes close to this one when it comes to the narrative in my opinion.
Let's count Algirdas & Kestutis and Jadwiga as 1 huge campaign. S tier
First and only time i got so carried by an AOE 2 campaign
I loved the Montezuma campaign for the narrative and I still think it remains as my number one. I've just beaten all the campaigns.
The designer of this campaign has a great penchant for storytelling, as for his other custom works at Age of Kings Heaven.
@@SobiesawChabaz agreed. So says quatemoc, eagle warrior of tenochtitlan
I absofuckingly love the fact that Vytautas used the tactic that Timur used against him just in the previous scenario...This is the most dynamic story telling there has been in the history of AOE2 Campaigns imo.
>There's a song called Live and Learn
>Jogaila and Vytautas act sorta like Sonic and Shadow
how did Vytautas make it out of the Tatar trap? I thought he died when the demo ships bomb the bridge lol
I love how all of the campaigns are connected to each other. Prequels - Lithuanians, Main story - Polish, Sequels - Bohemians.
The Holy Roman Empire Strikes Back was a good Star Wars movie.
Dang I did it all backwards I went from west to east
@@adamgonzalez9650 haha same. Its not that important anyway since if you first know stuff from a first campaign you get to understand it better if you play the chronologically previous one afterwards
I really love what they choose for those 3 campaigns, as in reality it's one big whole, starting from Lithuanians in their strugles, through their alliance and union with Poland against Teutonic Order, against which Bohemians helped the Union, after which they themselves needed to face crusade of Europe. I love the fact, that instead of 3, 6 maps campaigns, we got 1, 18 maps one
That's my favourite part. The stories are tied together so smoothly.
It was more than just a cameo for Jan Zizka, he was present for the battle and fought for the Polish-Lithuanian side. They did a great job tying the campaigns together.
Yeah, that transition from Jadwiga to Jogaila was heartbreaking.
I also want to point out that their marriage was probably the most important marriage in history of Europe.
It wasn't just one royalty marrying another royalty but it was one ruller marrying another ruller - Jadwiga (king of Poland) married Jogaila (grand duke of Lithuania).
Thanks to this marriage Poland and Lithuania were united under one crown from 1386, then in 1569 they truly became one country (known as Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth).
For some time it was the biggest coutry in Europe, there was even a period when they had access to 3 seas.
Then in 1795, as a result of the partitions, they disappeared from the maps for over 100 years. Officially they separeted in 1918 when after WW1 they came back as saparate countries under Russian influence. Then WW2 happened and they disappeared again, they regained their full freedom from Russia only little over 30 years ago.
So you can really say that history of Poland and Lithuania has been connected since their wedding, till recenty.
Definitely a favourite scenario. In a favourite campaign. Not a single mission felt like a slog.
It's so nice and a challenge as well. I like the humour and the surprisingly informative rants like the one about the difference between Tatrs and Mongols. Oh and all three stories so nicely fit together like introducing Jan Zizka here.
S tier campaign, easy. Every scenario felt very fresh, the story was great, and there were some very unique dynamics thrown in the mix.
My opinion is that is the best campaign ever, good gameplay, great narrative and challenging difficulty. Also shows the strengths of poles. S of the s-tier!
Fun Fact: the leader of Smolensk forces in this battle was a Lithuanian named Lengvenis, who happened to be a brother of Jogaila! He was important in the battle, wonder why the Smolensk merc captain wasnt named that...
Probably would be weird for a brother to ask for money. IRL they where vassal levies not mercenaries so for gameplay reasons I think it's fine
They should made a TV show about Jogaila and his father Olgierd (he had around 14 siblings and 20 kids with 2 wifes so there was a lot of fighting over the power). It's literally Game of Thrones but better with people fighting to get the throne, plotting behind each other's backs and poisoning/killing other relatives.
Sweet Jadwiga, I shall avenge thee
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What do you mean this is a line from the Joan of Arc campaign and she did not die because of enemy actions ? Oh right, we don't need extra reasons to fight the Teutons.
The scenario isn't about not spending gold, it's about collecting as much as possible, 6 tc boom send most vills to every gold and stone mine you can find and create pikemen + arbalest, and protect the arbs and siege at all costs
I managed to get every town, trade workshop, fortress, hired a mercenary company and I didn't even ally with the Lizard Union (for the achievement)
Spending so much vill time gathering food for hussars that get countered by EVERY TEUTON UNIT doesn't make much sense
(took me a few tries to realize this, but it's the best strategy imo)
You also have to remember where the Teuton patrols are and run into them when you got enough soldiers and not before that, and where every gold and stone mine are to send a fuck ton of vills there
Still, good vid Ornlu, this is just for people who are struggling with it 11
I created like 15 obuchs and spammed hussars with large boom. It was enough with spending gold on trebs.
You can spend some gold at the beginning, but the winged hussar mobility is needed at the end. It is more of a transition that is needed.
I agree I went HCA Pikemen, but was still able to get the gold just in time. Had some 50 gold miners. You can't fight teutons with just winged hussars.
Although Jogaillo won the battle of Tannenberg, he could never see his wife and child so soon... this ending made my tears cry after I completed this campaign..
This final scenario's intro and outro broke me. From Jadwiga being gone, 2 weeks after losing her daughter, to the end where Jogaila calling back to Jadwiga's line during the first scenario intro able the bell tolling and noticing how everything is is... palpable. That broke my heart and nearly brought me to tears. I didn't know Jadwiga died before the end, I thought she lived long and prosperous. But now I know the truth. And that truth... is bitter as the polish winter...
The scenario itself stressed me to no end because I wanted to do everything. But in the end, I couldn't get either Fortress, but got everything else instead. So victory was assured and easy. And Vytautas pulling that Tatar move raised my spirits and helped me push to my victory with Purple against Grey and the Master of the Order. A perfect way to end the scenario and campaign.
I even chose Jan Zizka as my mercenary, so I'll be able to experience him again in his campaign with the Bohemians.
For those who didnt studied polish history (like me) the beginning narration of this scenario was a big twist.
Jogaila is the true protagonist of dawn of the dukes
Did this ending sequence almost end you too? The way it was written... I believe they wanted to make us cry. And ummm. Maybe they succeeded a little (speaking for a friend)
The good thing is that after those religious wars, rebellions nothing bad happened to Poland
Till the Russians, Austrians and Germans decided to clap em all at once....sad but true :(
all wars are political ^^
The intro to this mission was like having ice water thrown in your face
This might be the first scenario I actually replayed immediately after I beat it. I wanted to see how I could improve and finish all the objectives. The first run I ended up getting the achievement for killing Ulrich and Nicolas. When I replayed it the second time I went with Obuchs and Winger Hussars. I don't know if it was the combination of trample damage with the armor stripping but this scenario felt like a case study for how effective Obuchs can be. I was absolutely shredding through everything. I was still able to comfortably reach 10K gold even with Obuch production. Also, it is nuts how truly good Arbalests are with the hill advantage in the final battle.
I believe the key to winning this is the Teuton fortress in the center. It splits your forces from Vytautas. If you can eliminate it before he sacks 3 Prussian towns you can then unite with him to sweep the rest of the map. Otherwise after sacking 3 TC his forces will die in an assault on the fortress. Also micro managing goes a long way in this scenario. Your initial force can deal some damage if managed well. In the second half you have to hold long enough for vytautas to sweep in on the flank with cavalry. He will always defeat the Prussian cavalry with his Tatar maneuver. If you survive long enough he will sweep in on the right occupying the enemy and you can execute a pincer. Your army contains Obuchs. These are key in dismantling the Teutons heavy armor. Teuton units are slow and weak to archer fire while your army contains Winged Hussars with an excellent attack bonus vs the teutons hand cannoneers. Even without all the upgrades or mercenaries it's still possible to win through tactical strategy
Jadwiga S tier number 1 campaign
one of my daily highlights, a new campaign video from Ornlu :)
"You're about to play as Jan Zizka, so I kind want to skip the bohemian one."
"Let's do Tokhtamysh for our old time frendo."
Proceeded to choose neither of them.
Classic Ornlu.
One of the best written Narratives, I held the surprise of Henry the lion being the Narrator in the Barbarossa campaign as the best but this just bested it, damn what can I say I'm moved.
Even tough pikemen wouldn't be very good, they would still be very helpful. You should use them
incredible way to finish this masterpiece of a campaign!
I just finished this campaign on Hard. Incredibly good, possibly my fav aoe2 campaign (esp as a follow up to the prior campaign). So much creativity in the plot development, in game commentary, and most importantly individual scenario diversity. Memorable scenarios were Risk in 3 and the OMG Onslaught in 4/5
I ended up kinda spoiling the beginning of the scenario by reading the wikipedia page for Jadwiga :,(
I remember the war on Marienburg from this scenario reminds me of scenario 3 'Defending the order' from Empire Earth 2 German Campaign, and the outcome of that war is...
Jogaila has been slain... 😞
That's funny to see that Vytautas in real life just escaped from field of battle, and when Polish army almost did everything, returned with words : "THAT WAS TATAR MANEUVER". But... That's just a game.
One of best story of all campaigns. I like that Aoe2 made me cry, because Jadwiga is really perfect person for campaign. I was afraid that this gonna be just about Jogaila at most, but no, she is still a main character of this perfect story. She was escorted from her real home to Poland , her people didn't let her marry William, her people married her on Jogailo... She was 12 and he was 25+... And she lost her daughter and her life... So dramatic, in real life, but LordBasse made her history more sad and better... Like a film. And i'm so grateful to artist who made all pictures, because he made a interesting images of Vytautas, Jadwiga and Jogaila(But campaign starts at 1380, and end at 1410,but Jogaila and Vytautas looks still young... But also that's great images! Or they were Vampires🤔)
It's heavily disputed on Vytautas return. Fleeing soldiers don't randomly come back in large cohesion after "deciding" to kill their pursers. Even the Teuton letters warn of Lithuanian faint movement's after the battle.
In my playthrough i wasnt able to take neither forts since i was focusing on the other objectives and rewuiring gold, i ended up hiring the halbadier + gunpowder unit, and o boi let me tell ya they shreded trough the teurons, probably the only reason i beat ot first try.
Yep, you need the merc group + use your hussar to kill the gunpowder unit in the last fight and it makes everything fairly easy.
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On hard I survived without any mercs by retreating into Vytautus' forces
Love love love this mission! I really like the fact that you are on a tight timer, so win or lose its a nice shirt time. I love that they actually foreshadowed Vytautas' tactics, the payoff here was so satisfying. Super sad about Jadwiga tho 😢
I loved how cinematic this whole campaign felt, but it always felt like you were PLAYING instead of just watching. I just with this last fight was a bit harder. Getting a hold of just one of the merc companies or one of the polish armies is enough to win the last fight.
Tip: already set the foundation for a few farms and then set the gather point on one of those foundations.
This way you dont have idle vills.
I loved this level that final fight with Ulrich as a sort of boss fight, Also Ornlu did u noticed that Vytautas got buff on his stats, look at your old Ivaylo 5 mission(the begining) and current Vytautas in this campaign
Yeah as you probs know, he was in the game before DotD as the token Lithuanian hero unit. But for some reason he had negative armor lol. Good to see that fixed ^^
@@OrnLu_AoE yeah exactly hehe, Also he now Has 4/5 Armor before IT was 1/4-3 11
My blacksmith upgrades don't show in the units for the final battle
Got this on the first try. Couldn't get near collecting 10,000 gold so I just moved fast and took out whatever was nearby. Sniped the TCs, a few of the workshops but wasn't able to take out the Teutonic strongholds. The final battle was manageable as I was able to control the slight uphill area.
*Pro tips*
At the start, order Jogaila to attack the walls of the closest Prussian town (you have to deal with the Halberdiers, towers and archery range first) all the way down, he levelmaxed out!!! And please, DON'T destroy the TC, it will ruin the trick!!
Also, you must send like 10 initial peasant to the gold mine, and mining those close to the town-being-attacked-by-Jogaila and some others. 10K gold is achievable in this manner.
Create a horde of Winged Hussars with all the upgrades plus Trebuchets and forwards castles and destroy the fortress in the middle.
And last but not least, before the final battle, make TEN of your light cavalry to go south - below the spawn of Arbalesters, there is an open space in a U shape - and patrol. This will grant you the insurance policy of continuing in the fight even if you are down to just one man, Jogaila maxed out ideally.
i think that it depends of wich objectives you take the importance of the gold. In my case i made a army of arbalest and obuchs and destroy the 5 prussians towns, speak with the lizards and then in the battle i fight using countes. it matters how you fight not only the numbers.
Completing all the side quests is REALLY hard but rewarding. I kind of cheesed it by not destroying the nearby Prussian camp and having Jogaila hit the wall for quite a while, since he maxes out at 860 HP so he needs 20 boosts, so I think that's the hardest one. You should try it if you haven't!
I got emotional of this scenario...
the signs of the new time
the old fox of Poland
Legit I thought I played the wrong campaign because of the intro.
I beat this mission fairly easily. I was able to make 3 trebs and a small army of arbalasts and pikemen with my starting soldiers and light cav in toe. Its worth it to spend gold on the arbalasts and blacksmith upgrades because you need to fight quickly against the Teuton forces and the arbalasts mow down the teutonic knights while the pikemen deal with the paladins/horses. If you defend your arbalasts and trebs all you have to make are light cav and pikemen which dont cost gold.
In my first run I was able to complete all the objectives except one Teutonic castle. I feel like if I did it again, I'd send a few villagers to make a castle outside each Teuton base, lure the soldiers out, then once they all die to the castle, treb their buildings. The Teutons dont have siege weapons luckily, so it's best to take advantage. Also green killing the northern Town Center is clutch haha
Tragedy of mercenaries : peace XD
Wait,we have 2 different versions of the battle of Grunwald?
Yup! You'll see me play the other one in a couple days :)
@@nguyenquan4385 You are correct, except this part: 3) Vytautas didn't use the strategy mentioned above;
Vyvautas did use the mentioned strategy at the beginning of the level, but Jogaila is the one talking about it instead.
the ending be like : i've won..... but at what cost?
Hold on a munite, this mission has yellow Prussia!
Also Ornlu I don't get your obsession with the winged hussar in this scenario haha. They're terrible against the halbs, teutonic knights/crusaders.
'how do I get more gold', he said, hovering over 1000s of minable gold XD
Hey Ornlu, have you checked out Basse's channel? He's doing a really good series explaining how he did each map of this campaign and the steps of making one yourself, it's really interesting
Yeah I'm well aware of those vids. They look really interesting! I'm just waiting until I finish all of the new campaigns to prevent any possible spoilers :)
@@OrnLu_AoE I've seen the first 2 episodes (the only ones that are out) and don't worry, they don't even mention Zizka, so you are good to go!
I liked this whole campaing very much. I really hope, that if we get more DLCs, we'll have more campaings designed by Lord Basse.
I have 2 very minor compalints tho. One is that the one big, Imp, build and destroy mission we have in the campaing (map 5) is played as the Lithuanians and not as Poles. I don't know why this is, maybe Poles don't shine that much in these kind of missions and it was better to show them off in castle age in map 2? Or maybe for historical accuracy. It is just wierd that the civ this campaign is built on doesn't get one.
The other, and I really should blame history for this, is the Polish Winged Hussars are not really useful in any of the missions. On the missions you can train them, you always go up against the Teutonic Order and they really not a useful unit against them.
That said, this was one of the best campaings I played so far. Offered challange, a good story, interesting scenarios... What else could I ask for?
I guess the reason why we play as the Lithuanians is because it's technically a sideshow with Vytautas doing his own things somewhat independantly from Jadwiga & Jogaila. It ties well with Vytautas using the same move in the next scenario, and the fact that it's an union of 2 kingdoms instead of Poland outright conquering Lithuania.
It would have been a separate battle scenario if the polish and lithuanian campaigns were not linked to that extend.
As for the winged hussar, it's somewhat an anachronism in the first place, only appearing in Poland in the late 16th century
@@Duke_of_Lorraine I mean, these are more meta complaints. They way they connected the first and second (and the third a little bit) campaing together is fantastic. Map 5 makes sense, fits into the narrative and a fun scenario. On the other hand, the whole of the Lithuanian campaing is build and destroy with a little twist every time, so I would have preferred to play Poles for once.
I mean, sure, but since winged hussars are in the game and the polish imp tech focuses on them, I would have liked to use the at least once.
The Dawm of the Dukes
Well comeback everybody is his 1st ment.
Hello Teutonic Order, wanna see City of a thousand Bombard Tower? XD
Best Aoe DLC of all times
40:48 wtf was that name ! are you German ?
I'm personally of the opinion that aggressive Castle drops are the best way to deal with Imperial Age Teuton AIs that don't make siege.
Especially when you have stone that you collected because of that Polish civ bonus that you can't sell at market and you have to use for *something*
3 times for this scenario ? I did it in one go. You don’t have Pikemen , which will do the work against the Cavalry , and you are not even dropping castles so that you get extra help. Jez man.
Annoyingly, getting the orange faction to leave the field prevents you from getting the achievement.
Lol Battle of Grunwald once again.
please play tutonic order custom campaing its great and it follows this campaign so well
Loved the Jadwiga campaign, but was annoyed at this scenario; it is so beautifully designed and tells you to "build up your army" with an economy and by doing objectives, yet in the end, everything is deleted and you get assigned units (more or less, depending, yes yes). Should have been the player's choice which units, and also to put them to the battlefield themselves, choose formation etc. Obviously make the battlefield rigged with triggers preventing you from building castles on it to cheese it.
In the Yodit scenario with Sumanguru marching to battle you had a much more organic way of playing it, building your army at your base, while a foraging party goes around the map decimating the enemy production and reinforcements before the battle starts.
I'm surprised at the comments below, this mission (on hard of course) can be done pretty much only with the starting vills (or near enough)... Granted, in this way I cannot besiege the Teutonic fortresses, but it is enough to hire the mercs and win the mission (I did it without the achieve, seeing as how I had already done it, but I'm sure it would have been possible anyway). You just have to, you know, micromanage your unit and don't send them as a single big blob at the end, some manoeuvering is actually permitted and intended lol ;). (I even forgot to do most of my upgrades and it didn't matter, finished the battle with troops to spare and the Lithuanian Army nearly intact.)
A bit of spoiler
The atmosphere and story of the third campain is so different that i think this should be the Finale instead
I know time line and stuff but this feels like a real finale to a story cobined with the first campain
I think of the third campaign as the side story/epilogue of the side character. The real polish lithuanian main story ends here.
Also why I'm feels sad? :')
you could have used the market to sell more stone and wood for gold
You don't have access to the market in this specific scenario.
I'm sad now.
Have a heart to cheer up!
Needs more gold, throws away cannons.
Why didn't u trade with market for gold
You cant build one
too bad it's not easier to get the mercenaries to side with you, I know the steppe pastoralists and the bohemians sided with the polish/lithuanians IRL
Hi
The only thing I dislike about this campaign is the name. It's not the story of Jadwiga, it's Jogaila/Vytauyas', she's only the narrator. It's like naming El Cid's campaign "Jimena". Jadwiga seemed like a mere counselor. I'd love to know more about the concrete things she did
Jadwiga IRL is a legit co-ruler of Polish-Lithuania though. She's really active diplomatically, acts independently in tandem with her husband, and also did a lot of domestic efforts to stabilize and improve Poland as a whole. Sure, I don't think she fights personally in wars IRL, but neither are most IRL priests/monks -- heal and convert is a game mechanic that partially represents act of mediation and morale support during war. Since she's a saint and is genuinely an iconic ruler of Poland, I don't think devs deciding her as the ruler in *Polish* campaign is a bad move at all, especially considering that Jogaila's family has been the focus of the first campaign -- and her being depicted as a monk hero in tandem with her husband is just fitting.
@@zeroyuki92 I don't deny that. In fact I'd love to read a book about her. But I feel that, in the AOE2 campaign, there is a discrepancy between the pre/post scenario narrative and the gameplay narrative. I feel like she tells Jogaila/Vytautas' story, and that's what you play, but you don't get to play some Jadwiga's historical events (maybe some diplomatic mission, I don't know her story). What I'm trying to say is that I feel like she's not the protagonist of her own campaign.
@@zeroyuki92 and I'd like to add that I loved her being a powerful hero monk
Jogaila was presented perfectly in cutscenes but I'm kinda threw off with those slapstick moments. Like they tried to push too much into one campaign. Some of that was just not fitting, considering overall mood that they're going for. And I kinda hate that Grunwald design - it just looks goddamn weird. I would rather see it as 1/1 split, not some right cornery rectangle thingy. As for battle itself goes, English version seems a little bit off, at least for Polish culture. He wasn't portrayed as that , it was rather calm response in manner of: . Here is quote from Polish movie adaptation of historical novel by H. Sienkiewicz.
ruclips.net/video/YBs4a4Io49I/видео.html
As you can see, it both contradicts with Polish culture (which is of course just you know, minor aspect) and mood that is set in ending cutscene. Otherwise, had fun with campaigns and ofc we have to deal with some simplicity in AoE2, but still, those things could be ironed out. As for campaigns goes I think all of them are solid A tier.