A lot of what I'm getting from this is that you need to play as Imperial Fists: build, fortify, defend and reinforce until you have enough research and resources to start dropping terminator squads directly into the enemy HQ. For Dorn and for the EMPEROR!
I just dumped 7 1/2 hours into my first play. I literally made every mistake possible just to come out knowing that what you said is how you have to play the marines. I have lost so many units fighting all over the place until captain, my captain! Came out and put everyone and everything to the sword! Stay close to base and get whatever resource tiles to can. Spam end turn to get more fortresses, and then expand out.
After getting your city economy set up, build Chaplains, they have the skills which provide 12 loyalty. Getting Chaplains and keeping them alive helps tremendously.
You definitely want to pop that chaplain first. A circle of Centurions with a chaplain in the middle providing damage and morale buffs is a great time.
I got it from epics free stuff, its really fun but orcs kick my butt. You really need to be careful with your economy (only one city, so dont loose your fortresses)
If you do a Chaos SM tips video I highlight, extreeeeeeeeemely highlight the importance of rhino transports. I am very surprised by the fact that the SMs don’t have any but I suppose the orbital deployment is Slytherin’s balance counter for the lack of early game transports. These things are so integral to your strategy in using cultist mobs and marines for specialized roles that the armory should be your first tech tree option taken as they are perfect for soaking up enemy damage while protecting your troops, and then unloading two units and providing a solid amount of focused damage between whatever units you unloaded and the rhino’s combi-bolter which doesn’t do much damage but when upgraded with havoc launchers can do quite a bit of AP damage. Right now I pretty much am far enough into my campaign that I’m turning out rhinos every two turns and producing cultists and marines to fill them up and send them to the front lines.
Butter Nut Hydra Dominatus brother, I really hope we get to see more classic and non-spotlight-lit units, I was pleasantly surprised by the inclusion of the Vindicator tank, however I do wish that the orbital deployment was more balanced, best thing I can see is a capacity of sorts where you can either send squads up or have any in production go there instead of spawning in your city. That way you have to strategize what units you want to deploy/teleport and if you’re facing off of someone who has 2000+ influence, they can’t simply just land their entire army around the enemy stronghold and finish the enemy in one turn after an orbital scan is used. This way your deployment is balanced and thematic as that’s not how SMs always deploy and it’s thematic in a turn taken to go into orbit before landing back onto the surface next turn, after all I’ve read about how even in the HH some marines preferred riding Stormbirds or Thunderhawks into combat than the uncontrolled release of a drop pod assault. This way we can get the rhino as an early-mid game transport and you can’t abuse the orbital deployment ability, cause it does piss me off quite a bit that any transports aren’t avail til thunder hawks and when I’m sending my devestators to the front lines but I can’t get close as they’ll be butchered by the AI’s basilisks even though at times your own basilisks wont do the same kind of damage. This way they can be used as their supposed to to take the brunt of the damage and then unload their cargo where they need to go.
I'm 4 years late to the party, but OMG I just adore this game, I already have 100 hrs in Gladius within 3 weeks! I can just play and play... there are so many mods and the DLC factions now out are incredible!!
Pretty good video except for taking assault marines over chaplains. Chaplains are by a large margin the best hero SM have and in my book should be prioritized over the captain
@@AXharoth ,chaplains have a 10% damage buff on 3 turn cooldown that caps at 30%. They can also raise your city loyalty passively. Their level 6 skill is an aoe heal around them. The skill I level last is the one that increases nearby units morale and reduces enemy morale, but maybe someone else knows when to level it first. If you look at why prioritize the chaplain over the captain? Chaplains will buff up to 3 units, 6 if you position them in the middle, and start with 10 armor. They are essentially a brick wall. By the time you have the chaplain, if you've kept all your squads alive you can form an offensive or defensive line with them behind the chaplain. In the vanilla game the chaplain can fight many heroes to a draw, if not win. By the time he needs to retreat, you will have produced the captain, so he can take the chaplain's place on the front line
@@AXharoth Captains with the "Deeds of Glory" skill will provide a ton of influence to your city, which you can put to good use in a number of ways. In combat, the Captain can do significant damage, but his DPS pales beside his ability to stand in the middle of a whole enemy army laughing maniacally as their firepower barely scratches him. Captains have armor 10, more than most tanks, and two different 50% damage reduction traits. And they count as infantry so can get even more damage reduction from forests/ruins/outposts. And when you finally wear them down a bit they self heal. And they get to use items, so you can even boost up their armor and add zoat hide for extra hit points. This isn't that huge an advantage in PvP as sensible players will shoot more fragile units first, but against AI enemies you can often sucker them into attacking the Captain, largely wasting their fire. Chaplains provide a very useful morale boost to your city, which you will need pretty soon because you have to expand that city like a kudzu patch to get production anywhere near what other factions can do with multiple cities. In combat, they are less directly useful than Captains, but they have handy support abilities that let them increase the effectiveness of nearby friendly units. Librarians are Psionically gifted beings that have a hodgepodge of psychic abilities. None of the abilities really stand out enough to make them very useful. Most players stick to Captains and Chaplains, and never build more than one Librarian if any at all.
I can appreciate the uploader has a thing for chainswords, but it seems to me assault marines aren't really very useful. If you add up the damage their weapons do, it is slightly less than the damage tactical marines do at range one, once you allow for the tactical marines being doubled at range 1 due to the rapid fire trait. But tactical marines can fire at range 2, which assault marines cannot do. The only real advantage of the assault marines is the ability to jump, which to me just isn't enough to justify spending research time on. Later on you get more powerful melee units, dreadnaughts and terminators, that make assault marines look feeble, so if you do research assault marines there is a pretty short time window when they are still slightly useful before the big boys make them obsolete.
did you do guides for the other factions, too? I just got this game. I imagine there will be a lot of new players as well due to the steam sales at the weekend.
Chaos Space Marines can have AWFUL early game, if you can't afford to train infantry. They only get their good vehicles in mid game. (Rhino is weak and breaks easily).
Remember to call back from your fortresses or vehicles eventually, for the game wont remind you of this, and they wont gain any EXP when they aren't on the battlefield.
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A lot of what I'm getting from this is that you need to play as Imperial Fists: build, fortify, defend and reinforce until you have enough research and resources to start dropping terminator squads directly into the enemy HQ. For Dorn and for the EMPEROR!
Literally exactly how my first play thru ended up
It was pretty epic
Space Marines in any dawn of war too lmao
I just dumped 7 1/2 hours into my first play. I literally made every mistake possible just to come out knowing that what you said is how you have to play the marines. I have lost so many units fighting all over the place until captain, my captain! Came out and put everyone and everything to the sword! Stay close to base and get whatever resource tiles to can. Spam end turn to get more fortresses, and then expand out.
I swear I read all the tips during gameplay but I learned more from your video than my first 2 hours of playing this game. Thank you! For the Emperor!
I did not know that each tile can hold up to 3 buildings.. going to be a big help lol..
Not every tile. There is a hexagon marker showing how many buildings it can have. Forests only have 2, unless the tile is cleared.
After getting your city economy set up, build Chaplains, they have the skills which provide 12 loyalty. Getting Chaplains and keeping them alive helps tremendously.
You definitely want to pop that chaplain first. A circle of Centurions with a chaplain in the middle providing damage and morale buffs is a great time.
and the flag for resources
I was hoping, I had missed an important part. I´m playing on the lowest difficulty and it´s still very tense :D
I had no idea what the hell I was doing. I still don’t but your video did help a lot thanks dawg.
your intro jumpscared me pretty good, thank you lol (helpful tips too btw, literally my first ever strategy game I've played starting 3 days ago)
I got it from epics free stuff, its really fun but orcs kick my butt. You really need to be careful with your economy (only one city, so dont loose your fortresses)
If you do a Chaos SM tips video I highlight, extreeeeeeeeemely highlight the importance of rhino transports. I am very surprised by the fact that the SMs don’t have any but I suppose the orbital deployment is Slytherin’s balance counter for the lack of early game transports. These things are so integral to your strategy in using cultist mobs and marines for specialized roles that the armory should be your first tech tree option taken as they are perfect for soaking up enemy damage while protecting your troops, and then unloading two units and providing a solid amount of focused damage between whatever units you unloaded and the rhino’s combi-bolter which doesn’t do much damage but when upgraded with havoc launchers can do quite a bit of AP damage. Right now I pretty much am far enough into my campaign that I’m turning out rhinos every two turns and producing cultists and marines to fill them up and send them to the front lines.
For sure I'll be getting around to the filthy heretics just gotta get some free time. Thanks for the tips too!
Butter Nut Hydra Dominatus brother, I really hope we get to see more classic and non-spotlight-lit units, I was pleasantly surprised by the inclusion of the Vindicator tank, however I do wish that the orbital deployment was more balanced, best thing I can see is a capacity of sorts where you can either send squads up or have any in production go there instead of spawning in your city. That way you have to strategize what units you want to deploy/teleport and if you’re facing off of someone who has 2000+ influence, they can’t simply just land their entire army around the enemy stronghold and finish the enemy in one turn after an orbital scan is used. This way your deployment is balanced and thematic as that’s not how SMs always deploy and it’s thematic in a turn taken to go into orbit before landing back onto the surface next turn, after all I’ve read about how even in the HH some marines preferred riding Stormbirds or Thunderhawks into combat than the uncontrolled release of a drop pod assault. This way we can get the rhino as an early-mid game transport and you can’t abuse the orbital deployment ability, cause it does piss me off quite a bit that any transports aren’t avail til thunder hawks and when I’m sending my devestators to the front lines but I can’t get close as they’ll be butchered by the AI’s basilisks even though at times your own basilisks wont do the same kind of damage. This way they can be used as their supposed to to take the brunt of the damage and then unload their cargo where they need to go.
I'm sure you already know this by now but SM were given the Razorback in one of the DLCs since you posted this comment.
I'm 4 years late to the party, but OMG I just adore this game, I already have 100 hrs in Gladius within 3 weeks! I can just play and play... there are so many mods and the DLC factions now out are incredible!!
Tyyyyyyyyy, hugs from Brazil!
Pretty good video except for taking assault marines over chaplains. Chaplains are by a large margin the best hero SM have and in my book should be prioritized over the captain
can you tell more plz?
@@AXharoth ,chaplains have a 10% damage buff on 3 turn cooldown that caps at 30%. They can also raise your city loyalty passively. Their level 6 skill is an aoe heal around them. The skill I level last is the one that increases nearby units morale and reduces enemy morale, but maybe someone else knows when to level it first. If you look at why prioritize the chaplain over the captain? Chaplains will buff up to 3 units, 6 if you position them in the middle, and start with 10 armor. They are essentially a brick wall. By the time you have the chaplain, if you've kept all your squads alive you can form an offensive or defensive line with them behind the chaplain. In the vanilla game the chaplain can fight many heroes to a draw, if not win. By the time he needs to retreat, you will have produced the captain, so he can take the chaplain's place on the front line
@@tennoskoom2233 cool thanks
@@AXharoth Captains with the "Deeds of Glory" skill will provide a ton of influence to your city, which you can put to good use in a number of ways. In combat, the Captain can do significant damage, but his DPS pales beside his ability to stand in the middle of a whole enemy army laughing maniacally as their firepower barely scratches him. Captains have armor 10, more than most tanks, and two different 50% damage reduction traits. And they count as infantry so can get even more damage reduction from forests/ruins/outposts. And when you finally wear them down a bit they self heal. And they get to use items, so you can even boost up their armor and add zoat hide for extra hit points. This isn't that huge an advantage in PvP as sensible players will shoot more fragile units first, but against AI enemies you can often sucker them into attacking the Captain, largely wasting their fire.
Chaplains provide a very useful morale boost to your city, which you will need pretty soon because you have to expand that city like a kudzu patch to get production anywhere near what other factions can do with multiple cities. In combat, they are less directly useful than Captains, but they have handy support abilities that let them increase the effectiveness of nearby friendly units.
Librarians are Psionically gifted beings that have a hodgepodge of psychic abilities. None of the abilities really stand out enough to make them very useful. Most players stick to Captains and Chaplains, and never build more than one Librarian if any at all.
@@WalkaCrookedLine yeah but by now i played a lot and dotn use heroes at all xD
Some great tips there thank you.
I never build assault SMs. They are melee units and most of the time stay on healing.
Subd just cause of the funny words like "rickety wreck" lmao. Good informative video too
Good volume in the beginning then susddenly too silent.
@Roy Jamari Nobody cares and you didnt ever have a girlfriend.
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I can appreciate the uploader has a thing for chainswords, but it seems to me assault marines aren't really very useful. If you add up the damage their weapons do, it is slightly less than the damage tactical marines do at range one, once you allow for the tactical marines being doubled at range 1 due to the rapid fire trait. But tactical marines can fire at range 2, which assault marines cannot do. The only real advantage of the assault marines is the ability to jump, which to me just isn't enough to justify spending research time on. Later on you get more powerful melee units, dreadnaughts and terminators, that make assault marines look feeble, so if you do research assault marines there is a pretty short time window when they are still slightly useful before the big boys make them obsolete.
My gosh, the sound levels are all over the place in this video
did you do guides for the other factions, too? I just got this game. I imagine there will be a lot of new players as well due to the steam sales at the weekend.
Other one other. I haven't had too much time to get scripted vids out because of work. I do have a tyranids vid out with the Chaos Marines coming next
Other factions? THERE ARE NO OTHER FACTIONS!
Chaos Space Marines can have AWFUL early game, if you can't afford to train infantry. They only get their good vehicles in mid game. (Rhino is weak and breaks easily).
Remember to call back from your fortresses or vehicles eventually, for the game wont remind you of this, and they wont gain any EXP when they aren't on the battlefield.
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A week later and I’m hella more comfortable with everything but one question what the heck are doctrines I can’t find anything on my screen about them
When you unlock them, they are on the top left
I love this game but its a bit too much like civilization at times wehre it took me 20 horurs before i got to actually start attacking my enemy
Have things changed since this video?
Way too fast. I may just be dumb but it’s hard for my adhd addled mind to comprehend lmao
RIP eardrums
Seriously, why such a loud scream in the beginning?
I never take assault marines.
It's pronounced Astra MilitarUM, not MilitarIUM
audio sucks