DEFYN: Disciplined control of the flares for the whole video ALSO DEFYN: 11:46 spams flare key to kingdom come when it's a risk of dumb teammates lmaoo
It was a hell of a surprise to see a video on the SMT, because that's exactly the plane I've been struggling to stock grind recently. Seeing you slam those plane with the water pistol was incredible :D. I was literally doing the pogger face after that shot on the F-5C in 22:16
Yes DEFYN, I have been playing the mig 27 for a while now, but I’m trying to get the mig 23 MLD, so I’m glad you uploaded this video as I’m researching the SMT. Great video, keep it up 👍🏻
I‘ve been playing the F-5C extensively and you can outrate a lot of Planes, MiG-21s of all sort included. The thing is: it only works while keeping your speed above Mach 0.9. The Engine produces a lot of Power compared to it being at Mach 0.7, so basically…. as soon as you bleed to much speed in a rate fight, you Uno Reverse Card your own ass.
I've been playing the F-5C a lot too, I don't get how to outplay a MiG-21. Even a worse player will outplay you, they speed up quicker, have higher top speed, can beat you in a turn fight, have missiles that work, just seems to be an all round superior plane. Oh, and now they can also put out their fires.
@@jimjamjoeyjoejoe How long have you been playing the F-5C? As a rule of Thumb: yes the MiG-21 can stomp you, but ironically; the strengths of the F-5C are also the MiG-21‘s weaknesses. The F-5 has an amazing energy retention, while the MiG-21 sheds a lot of speed in a turn. You can go Mach 1, do a 180 and you‘ll start gaining distance on the MiG-21. You also have guns you can Aim and they also hit quite hard for it‘s caliber. So in a nutshell: you‘ll outrate a MiG-21 if you keep it at Mach 0.9 - 1.0. Rolling scissors won‘t work, but going Vertical at that speed might bleed them a lot of speed. In the end it‘s a matter of tactics, a good MiG-21 Pilot will clap your cheeks so play your cards right and you might get away with it.
@@PerriThePlatyPilot Don’t go vertical loops against mig 21. Even if the mig will bleed more speed, it’ll go faster upwards and can point the nose with its AoA. Try and force sustained rate fights.
If you're bleeding speed in a rate fight then you're not doing it correctly. To rate fight you need to stay within your planes optimal rate speed, if you're constantly pulling max G turns ofc you're going to bleed yourself of speed.
I just wanna say, recently discovered this channel and it has a lot of great content. Certainly made grinding US air tree a little easier. Even going positive in most planes at this point
Practice makes perfect. I love the mig 21’s so much I basically only play it. It does take a while to get the hang of it but my best advice would be to aim uncomfortably ahead and you will hit your mark.
I don’t have any Russian aircraft researched, so I fly the mig21mf in the German tree, and that thing is equally as amazing. A really solid all-round fighter that has done an incredible job of resisting meta changes, definitely one of my favorite planes to fly.
I'm starting to fly top tier, and I'm finding it very hard to get reliable information on the current meta or even simply how each aircraft stacks against the others. Many videos are outdated, new jets added, armaments changed... I'm using the F-4EJ Kai and feel like I have no way to influence the outcome of the battle, what is my role and how to stay useful and safe at the same time. It most probably comes down to my lack of experience, but so far I'd rather fly the Mitsubishi F-1 with which I can do decently well... and if I'm not mistaken, that thing isn't exactly the best at 10.3 What I'd like to know is: at 11.3, can I influence the outcome of my matches or is it more of a coin toss? If yes, is there any chance you Defyn could give us some pointers? Thanks for all your previous guides, they have always been useful
Hi DEFYN! Awesome gameplay and tips as always. Could you make a video about the F3H-2? All of the reviews I found for it were from 3-4 years ago and are outdated especially now with all the Rank V premiums. Keep up the great work!
Greetings, i am one of the F5C Players shown to be missled by you, and i do have to admit that i have a tendency to be caught blindsighted. As much as i like to think im not a good top tier player and any advice is welcomed
Hello, I have a question, I am not new to playing, but I have tried to focus on investigating the American planes, however I have been feeling that I lack power when I am in a dog fight against other planes, would it be better to change the nation?
I am a single unlock away from being able to grind the SMT. The event has slowed my progress in the Russian tech tree. Been using the F4F early and MiG 21 FM to grind the event. The FM is one of my favourite aircraft. I am looking forward to this one though. GG
First, I just want to say that I really enjoy all your videos and wish I had the knowledge you do. Secondly, I'm curious on why you didn't shoot a missle at the F-8E, at 14:39. He was at the top of his loop, slow speed, about 1.8km away and you had a lock on him.
I can't be entirely sure, but I think the reason why DEFYN didn't shoot his missile at the F-8E was because the F-8E was a free guns kill. Typically, missiles are often used as a utility to encourage/discourage an enemy's action or to remove people from the match quickly with little hassle, and using a missile against someone who is hanging from the air is a bit of a waste in that regard, as you're throwing away a utility that could have easily been saved. It's only with hindsight that we can say that DEFYN should've fired a missile there, as we know the outcome of him missing the F-8E.
2 main reasons. 1. The F-8E has flares, and R-60s are very flare hungry 2. He was confident that he would hit that shot, and didn't feel the need to waste a missile
when I was on my grind to the f-4j using the F-8U I didn't die one single time to mig-21's, would always force them into rate fights and then gg. Heck once I even outrated a mig-23m
I've been playing the smt recently. Idk how you can consistently beat F8s and F5cs. I've also played the f8e and I never found any mig 21 a problem and now being on the other side my opinion has been affirmed. Also the moment the F4c gets flares which it should this planes power will go down by a ridiculous degree.
All are really, but it depends on the person flying it as to whether it's worth it, or not. You kind of have to figure out what you're good at, and enjoy to know, imo.
i really need a guide on how to stay on enemy tail or how to get into enemy tail, whevener im dogfightin no matter it was me who start the fight or the enemy that coming towards me, i always ended up passing them or somehow they can keep up with my speed yet stay on my tail... i really need help with this thing, please if anyone know how to do it...
Mig-21SMT is not King Fishbed!! The best Mig-21 is Bis version. The hump behind the cabin "enlarged tank" was a big problem, it significantly worsened the aerodynamics of the plane
MiG-21 is always a competitive plane at any br. If you play it right but when you play it wrong like bled all energy if its not the tumansky R13 engine variant you kinda screwed
Love your content, DEFYN! I've been watching your channel for a while now trying to learn how to play Air RB. A question for you, sir, if I may: and maybe you already plan on answering it in your video for Sunday. If the MiG-21SMT is as fast as it is, accelerates as well as it does, and carries the missiles it does at 10.3, how are the F-5As and F-5C 10.3 material with a lower top speed and much worse missiles comparatively not to mention fewer of them. Do they expect you to ground pound in that airframe, are they overtiered and should be lowered to 10.0, or is the MiG-21SMT actually 10.7 material with a 10.3 BR? Or is there something else about them entirely that I am missing all together (which wouldn't surprise me as I'm still new to Air RB combat). Keep up the great videos; looking forward to the next one. o7
The SMT is probably a little undertiered, my experience flying it felt like it would be fine at 10.7. That said, the f5's should under no circumstances go down any lower than they are. They have mediocre missiles (9E's) but they have absolutely insane flight performance. They aren't the fastest compared to 11.0 or other 10.3 jets like the mig21, but they have excellent dogfighting potential and energy retention, great guns with lots of ammo, countermeasures and a literally broken damage model. The main thing that holds the f5 back compared to the SMT is that as a premium, the f5c has been spammed to hell and back by every noob US grinder out there. Br compression at top tier is horrific, so this sort of situation tends to pop up a lot.
@@warthunderclips2216 i personally love it it would be much less satisfying to use if the velocity wasn’t this slow But the fact that defyn called the whole weapon decent instead of just saying the damage is good surprised me a bit and made me quite happy
I know this was over a year ago and you probably won't see But I will never, and I mean never forgive you for not shooting a missle at the mig 21 2:01 - 2:16
still convinced this and the MF need to be 10.7, simply too good at 10.3 when you play high and dive down on most furballing. consistently get 3+ kills a game in the MF and its stupidly easy at this BR
10.3 is ok only have 4 R60 are very very crap vs flare almost all enemys in that br have flare Av8s A5C F5C your speed bleed when turn that why Mig21smt an mf are ok in 10.3 also its very but very rare figth in down tier always fight in up tier all jets are superior than smt in all aspect 10.3 is ok
@@angeldeath3685 Ah, I was playing the 104J, I thought all 10.7 104s are the same. Still it's pretty dumb to put any 104 higher than any MiG21 with at least 4 R60s
Hey DEFYN could you also make a video of Mirage IIIE? It’s one of the best 10.3 at the moment alongside with the Mig-21SMT/MF , Cause the Magic 1 get buffed to 35Gs max overload.
DEFYN: Disciplined control of the flares for the whole video
ALSO DEFYN: 11:46 spams flare key to kingdom come when it's a risk of dumb teammates lmaoo
The team is the enemy in blue, so why not xD
Because in War Thunder, your own team is usually more dangerous than the enemies themselves...
ahahahahahah I noticed that overexaggerated flare spam as well...probably that blue dot on the map caused a little bit of panic in him! 😂😂😂
Oh shit this is good point. Gotta start flare more against own teammates. Your absolutely right 😂
It was a hell of a surprise to see a video on the SMT, because that's exactly the plane I've been struggling to stock grind recently. Seeing you slam those plane with the water pistol was incredible :D.
I was literally doing the pogger face after that shot on the F-5C in 22:16
My jaw dropped automatically and I only noticed it after about 30 seconds, absolutely incredible shot.
When DEFYN uploads I know I’m going to be entertained
True
Amongu
Defynitely
idk why but "SMT" sounds so cool
Foxbat is still the coolest name
@@caralho5237 Phantom😅
@@zipp3rz397 raptor is supreme
Mig15 nato reporting name beats everything
@@thatguy7990 ikr
Yes DEFYN, I have been playing the mig 27 for a while now, but I’m trying to get the mig 23 MLD, so I’m glad you uploaded this video as I’m researching the SMT. Great video, keep it up 👍🏻
i love how you can dissect a situation and get into peoples heads in order to win near impossible fights, absolutely amazing!!
I‘ve been playing the F-5C extensively and you can outrate a lot of Planes, MiG-21s of all sort included. The thing is: it only works while keeping your speed above Mach 0.9. The Engine produces a lot of Power compared to it being at Mach 0.7, so basically…. as soon as you bleed to much speed in a rate fight, you Uno Reverse Card your own ass.
I've been playing the F-5C a lot too, I don't get how to outplay a MiG-21. Even a worse player will outplay you, they speed up quicker, have higher top speed, can beat you in a turn fight, have missiles that work, just seems to be an all round superior plane.
Oh, and now they can also put out their fires.
@@jimjamjoeyjoejoe How long have you been playing the F-5C?
As a rule of Thumb: yes the MiG-21 can stomp you, but ironically; the strengths of the F-5C are also the MiG-21‘s weaknesses. The F-5 has an amazing energy retention, while the MiG-21 sheds a lot of speed in a turn. You can go Mach 1, do a 180 and you‘ll start gaining distance on the MiG-21.
You also have guns you can Aim and they also hit quite hard for it‘s caliber.
So in a nutshell: you‘ll outrate a MiG-21 if you keep it at Mach 0.9 - 1.0. Rolling scissors won‘t work, but going Vertical at that speed might bleed them a lot of speed. In the end it‘s a matter of tactics, a good MiG-21 Pilot will clap your cheeks so play your cards right and you might get away with it.
@@PerriThePlatyPilot Don’t go vertical loops against mig 21. Even if the mig will bleed more speed, it’ll go faster upwards and can point the nose with its AoA. Try and force sustained rate fights.
If you're bleeding speed in a rate fight then you're not doing it correctly. To rate fight you need to stay within your planes optimal rate speed, if you're constantly pulling max G turns ofc you're going to bleed yourself of speed.
Halfway finished grinding this plane, can’t wait!
I just wanna say, recently discovered this channel and it has a lot of great content. Certainly made grinding US air tree a little easier. Even going positive in most planes at this point
"A water pistol, but filled with acid."-Fav quote from a previous video.
Idk why but watching you fly this jet makes me happy, I love it so much
Love the SMT, played it today myself and it's amazing 10.3 the only downgrade is really the water pistol...whiffed so many kills
Practice makes perfect. I love the mig 21’s so much I basically only play it. It does take a while to get the hang of it but my best advice would be to aim uncomfortably ahead and you will hit your mark.
It's amazing because it's broken as hell, it should be 10.7, but gaijin logic says no, let's put it at 10.3 where it can face subsonics, what a joke.
@@SummaryNine26 flareless subsonic with aim9bs
"so we're gonna run as fast as we can to mcdonalds" ☠
amazing video and i loved that 1v2 clutch with the f5c and the f8e
I'd love to see DEFYN play the MiG-21bis in the current top tier meta.
bis-SAU is fun, with all aspect R-60MK :)
Plz make a video talking about missiles. When you can overun, dodge, flare needed, dodge it when at a front assault. Would be nice for most of us.
When DEFYN drops a video my day get better :D
looking forward to a J7e revisit since the pl5 are no longer minecraft arrows
i was watching you for like 2 -3 years and all i can say is: you are insane in this game
I don’t have any Russian aircraft researched, so I fly the mig21mf in the German tree, and that thing is equally as amazing. A really solid all-round fighter that has done an incredible job of resisting meta changes, definitely one of my favorite planes to fly.
Germany is the best nation to play because it gets everything, so cool wow
Try the F-4F
im sorry but 00:58 what the fuck are those shots ???? you have a aimbot in your brain this is absolutely insane lol! well played !
I'm starting to fly top tier, and I'm finding it very hard to get reliable information on the current meta or even simply how each aircraft stacks against the others. Many videos are outdated, new jets added, armaments changed...
I'm using the F-4EJ Kai and feel like I have no way to influence the outcome of the battle, what is my role and how to stay useful and safe at the same time.
It most probably comes down to my lack of experience, but so far I'd rather fly the Mitsubishi F-1 with which I can do decently well... and if I'm not mistaken, that thing isn't exactly the best at 10.3
What I'd like to know is: at 11.3, can I influence the outcome of my matches or is it more of a coin toss? If yes, is there any chance you Defyn could give us some pointers?
Thanks for all your previous guides, they have always been useful
As phantom just toss missiles at people and never turnfight thats it
been flying this thing out recently and its actually been a load of fun.
Hi DEFYN! Awesome gameplay and tips as always. Could you make a video about the F3H-2? All of the reviews I found for it were from 3-4 years ago and are outdated especially now with all the Rank V premiums. Keep up the great work!
...and I think to myself, what a wonderful world *Luis Armstrong
I JUST GOT THE SMT YESTERDAY AND DEFYN UPLOADED A VIDEO ABOUT IT
It's op
Greetings, i am one of the F5C Players shown to be missled by you, and i do have to admit that i have a tendency to be caught blindsighted. As much as i like to think im not a good top tier player and any advice is welcomed
FLAPS MAN !!! they are soo hepfull in this plane ! saved my ass in dogfights a few times !
0:56 Defyn predicted Apex predators update
Lol yes
Hello, I have a question, I am not new to playing, but I have tried to focus on investigating the American planes, however I have been feeling that I lack power when I am in a dog fight against other planes, would it be better to change the nation?
The SAME voice everytine he says "I miss another shot" is absolutely hilarious
I legit just looked up a defyn MiG-21 video like an hour ago
Imo the best loadout is having 3 40s and 1 R3R for a head on or early fast climb to rek a noob, great stuff B)
New term unlocked: dogfarting
I could tell some of the footage was older bc of the missile seeker taking longer to activate
I am a single unlock away from being able to grind the SMT. The event has slowed my progress in the Russian tech tree. Been using the F4F early and MiG 21 FM to grind the event. The FM is one of my favourite aircraft. I am looking forward to this one though.
GG
You mean MF?
@@Attack_The_D_Point Well spotted. Your OCD is confirmed and registered.
aww, but defyn, any content you bring out is interesting - way past the 2 min mark! :-*
"Run as fast as we can to the McDonald's"
😂😭Me who literally had McDonald's today
6:32, for real i've been getting snipes from aa lately in my MiG 15bis and MiG 19 while going 800+, what the hell gaijin?
In Russia this things nickname is "Balalaika" like the triangular guitar instrument.
The MF which basically the same plane is good fun. Also that F8E threw that game hard. F8E is more than capable of taking on Mig-21s
MF has weaker engine. Still a great plane tho
Professor of planes
First, I just want to say that I really enjoy all your videos and wish I had the knowledge you do. Secondly, I'm curious on why you didn't shoot a missle at the F-8E, at 14:39. He was at the top of his loop, slow speed, about 1.8km away and you had a lock on him.
I can't be entirely sure, but I think the reason why DEFYN didn't shoot his missile at the F-8E was because the F-8E was a free guns kill. Typically, missiles are often used as a utility to encourage/discourage an enemy's action or to remove people from the match quickly with little hassle, and using a missile against someone who is hanging from the air is a bit of a waste in that regard, as you're throwing away a utility that could have easily been saved.
It's only with hindsight that we can say that DEFYN should've fired a missile there, as we know the outcome of him missing the F-8E.
2 main reasons.
1. The F-8E has flares, and R-60s are very flare hungry
2. He was confident that he would hit that shot, and didn't feel the need to waste a missile
Doof is doing some GShussy kills
This man tiping skills are Amazing tho, hes super fast
Some old footage here! I was in your 2nd match in the video with an old name flyin another fishy bed
Nice to see Gus Fring being a patreon
DEFYN hello. need you help. I open JA37C. which bullet i need on Akan. Ground or Air
Even the Soviets considered Mig-21 not too satisfactory. That is why they developed Mig-23.
That's like saying the US developed the F-15 because the F-4 wasn't too satisfactory. Technollogy just marches on.
What do you think about plane fire extinguishers being added?
@DEFYN Funny you called some top tiers planes Apex predators, name of the next update...
Same BR with the F-1 btw, and F1 has 15k+ repair lmao
this mig 21 have 17k
12:18 I don't appreciate this defyn. As a zoomer myself I very much like your long form content😡😡😡😡😡😡
Миг-21❤️
wait I thought missile spooling time was 1 second, was this recorded before the change?
The next event jet should be the Romanian MiG-21 with its R-60’s replaced with Magic 1’s
Hi! Do you plan on making a video about f4c? its a very problematic plane in air rb now
Can you please revisit F-4C? Im very interested in your pov on it at current BR.
It’s shit basically
Is it possible to get DEFYN's decal on console?
It gives me hope to know an ace has the same trash aim I have most days
This aircraft is indeed the best Mig since it is in the right br with great missiles and performance.
Can you make a video on the P-39N clubbing low tier planes on it?
when where already here for everyone who has it the F-8E at the moment is kinda crazy even with the caged 9D
when I was on my grind to the f-4j using the F-8U I didn't die one single time to mig-21's, would always force them into rate fights and then gg. Heck once I even outrated a mig-23m
I've been playing the smt recently. Idk how you can consistently beat F8s and F5cs. I've also played the f8e and I never found any mig 21 a problem and now being on the other side my opinion has been affirmed. Also the moment the F4c gets flares which it should this planes power will go down by a ridiculous degree.
F4C getting flares have been asked for since its introduction years ago. Gaijin said no and no evidence it was ever mounted.
Are any of the later tier premium jets worth getting?
All are really, but it depends on the person flying it as to whether it's worth it, or not. You kind of have to figure out what you're good at, and enjoy to know, imo.
What about the mirage 3 e in 10.3 right now ?
Bruh, low on calories so we run as fast as we can to the mcdonalds LOL
i really need a guide on how to stay on enemy tail or how to get into enemy tail, whevener im dogfightin no matter it was me who start the fight or the enemy that coming towards me, i always ended up passing them or somehow they can keep up with my speed yet stay on my tail... i really need help with this thing, please if anyone know how to do it...
Could you show the J7II ?
does anyone make the 60 round one good or is that just not the best option no matter who you are
Mig-21SMT is not King Fishbed!! The best Mig-21 is Bis version. The hump behind the cabin "enlarged tank" was a big problem, it significantly worsened the aerodynamics of the plane
Fighting F-14s every match because of the BR is not better
@@DEFYN I'm talking about a real plane and not a warthunder simulation
Ok but this is wt
MiG-21 is always a competitive plane at any br. If you play it right but when you play it wrong like bled all energy if its not the tumansky R13 engine variant you kinda screwed
14:30 you got cocky not firing a missile
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Im waiting for Mig21F13 :DD
Lmao you have always called the gsh-23 a water pistol and thats a great analogy, and yea the rounds do nuke the enemy planes but velocity is so ass
good video! However, I don't see the point of using so much CHFF
Yeah baby
I shot 5 enemy planes down in one RB battle flying it, 4 with one load of missiles. And yet i lost the game thanks to inept team...
Hey DEFYN, are you from Germany?
He is form the Netherlands
Very subtle way of saying gen z has the attention span of a puppy.
Love your content, DEFYN! I've been watching your channel for a while now trying to learn how to play Air RB. A question for you, sir, if I may: and maybe you already plan on answering it in your video for Sunday. If the MiG-21SMT is as fast as it is, accelerates as well as it does, and carries the missiles it does at 10.3, how are the F-5As and F-5C 10.3 material with a lower top speed and much worse missiles comparatively not to mention fewer of them. Do they expect you to ground pound in that airframe, are they overtiered and should be lowered to 10.0, or is the MiG-21SMT actually 10.7 material with a 10.3 BR? Or is there something else about them entirely that I am missing all together (which wouldn't surprise me as I'm still new to Air RB combat). Keep up the great videos; looking forward to the next one. o7
The SMT is probably a little undertiered, my experience flying it felt like it would be fine at 10.7. That said, the f5's should under no circumstances go down any lower than they are. They have mediocre missiles (9E's) but they have absolutely insane flight performance. They aren't the fastest compared to 11.0 or other 10.3 jets like the mig21, but they have excellent dogfighting potential and energy retention, great guns with lots of ammo, countermeasures and a literally broken damage model. The main thing that holds the f5 back compared to the SMT is that as a premium, the f5c has been spammed to hell and back by every noob US grinder out there. Br compression at top tier is horrific, so this sort of situation tends to pop up a lot.
Wow defyn called the gsh23 decent
gsh23 is just good mate. the problem is you just need to properly aim this gun
@@warthunderclips2216 i personally love it
it would be much less satisfying to use if the velocity wasn’t this slow
But the fact that defyn called the whole weapon decent instead of just saying the damage is good surprised me a bit and made me quite happy
hate the gun, love the missiles
Its a water pistol thats loaded with acid
I know this was over a year ago and you probably won't see
But I will never, and I mean never forgive you for not shooting a missle at the mig 21 2:01 - 2:16
Cope!
love you man @@DEFYN
Great jet but the cost of repair is stupudly insane also when fight in full uptier smt is not the best to the job
still convinced this and the MF need to be 10.7, simply too good at 10.3 when you play high and dive down on most furballing. consistently get 3+ kills a game in the MF and its stupidly easy at this BR
10.3 is ok only have 4 R60 are very very crap vs flare almost all enemys in that br have flare Av8s A5C F5C your speed bleed when turn that why Mig21smt an mf are ok in 10.3 also its very but very rare figth in down tier always fight in up tier all jets are superior than smt in all aspect 10.3 is ok
What baffles me is that 104 with 9Js are still in 10.7, those 104s doesn't even have countermeasures and can't even maneuver
@@4choooKai German version has countermeasures he was very nice in 10.3 in 10.7 + stupidly insane cost of repair is unplayeable
@@angeldeath3685 Ah, I was playing the 104J, I thought all 10.7 104s are the same. Still it's pretty dumb to put any 104 higher than any MiG21 with at least 4 R60s
@@4choooKai same as Draken
graphic settings pls
Everything max
@@DEFYN alright thanks for the quick response, really appreciate your videos and your work!
Now fly the mig 21f-13 :troll:
Ah yes, the absolutely fair and balanced mach 2 capable mig 21 with four r60's that can fight sabres and f100s, I don't see a problem here.
Keep calm, soyboy
Defyn will we ever see other games on this channel?
Hey DEFYN could you also make a video of Mirage IIIE? It’s one of the best 10.3 at the moment alongside with the Mig-21SMT/MF , Cause the Magic 1 get buffed to 35Gs max overload.
28:28 lolol
So is it pronounced (de-fin) or (De-fy-n)
First one
This thing shouldn’t be in 9.7. The av8s don’t stand a chance against this thing.
I know this because I’m one of the harrier who players.
10.3 you mean?
@@chanalan7670 dang, I always go up against them while I’m in the harrier.
@@EvonMush The harrier does stand a chance, it has flares and 9G's, if you die to these things regularly, that's a fat skill issue.
@@jaek__ I use the thrust vector as much as I can to turn faster
Funny thing: the J35D is still at 10.7 even being worse than this (no rwr and no radar with crap ir missiles)
Oh ya jets are a thing in war thunder
War thunder stopped being a ww2 game almost half a decade ago 😢
King fishbed but not king delta my love mirage 3c beats it easly