@@bish189 not gonna be thankful for the state of the game that basically top tier is a waste of time trading kills with people that cannot play anything that doesn't have missiles.
@@derkaiser9881 to me is not if it is a good or bad Idea is the historical fact of it, it carried r77 as its main missile, it should have gotten them but gaijin will probably save it for an event mig21-93 for russia.
its like when you are capable of completing something , say in warthunder you play well and lets say you're an 8.3-9.3 jet , you get 3-4 kills average from dogfights and decent aim , it makes you feel good . But than you get killed by an f104 third partying and than the next round is a full downtier but your teammate is their partying all your kills and you don't event get the kill because they died before you got a shot off or otherwise . Yes you'll still be getting 3-4 kills but it sucks to have something out of your control that you can capably deal with otherwise in other better suited planes or if certain aspects out of your control teammates uptiers etc weren't screwing you over . That 3-4 kill average won't feel as fun .
there is no more effective countermeasure ingame than that of an enemy's missile he decides to launch right as you launch at him. no matter what kind of missile, for some reason another missile leaving the rail is genuinely more effective than any chaff or flare
Do you know why? I'll tell you if you don't..... the temperature of a rocket booster when firing can reach temps over 6000 degrees. Yes the seeker head on a missle that is guided by heat will probably prefer 6000 degrees over the jet engine which reaches 3,400 degrees. Does that make sense to you? I tried to be very clear.
@@miked815 yes, i am aware of the methods employed by heat seeking missiles to track heat. the problem is, past a very certain early age- around the mid to late 60s or so- missiles grew into better technologies that would help discriminate against background clutter. NOT to be confused with IRCCM, but instead general improvement against distractions from natural IR interference. this includes the pre-programmed knowledge of the average temperature range of a jet engine, which does not burn as hot as the 6000° rocket yes, thats actually the whole point. even earlier non-IRCCM missiles have this function too, provided its not an AIM-9B or R-3S. the very reason why flares work irl is because they are specifically engineered to burn at those same temperature ranges, thus mimicking the signature of a jet engine. the fact that any random motor of a rocket or missile can do this all, and more effectively than the specifically engineered countermeasure, is the problem. understand that??
@@miked815the thing is that this happens with radar missiles as well - because for some goddamn reason the missile just doesn't care what I actually got in my TWS lock and goes for the nearest thing that has some sort of radar signature
I hope the people asking to add old airframes with good missiles realize that the plane they want and love will never be competitive, in game or real life.
Hi . Will make a video about plane energy retention ? Like how to know the plane have good energy retention or not . Also nation guide ? Like show the little bit of cut scene of a tech tree plane and mention what is good or bad compared against other nation same BR plane’s
I had no idea this thing had r73s I was using the 4j just using 1-2 flares to counter the missiles I guess most people using them are are just bricks rn
nah bison is actually decent as far as premiums go, and for a british premium - it's straight up the best. (well, i mean it's competition is f-4junk, it's kinda hard to be worse than that.)
I found the bison experience easy though, the loadout is still fine and ppl at this br have some skill issue so....sure sometimes ur just overwhelmed or unlucky with terrain and die but most of the times if u use ur brain ur gonna have good games
5BA is probably the worst Mirage of the game lol Limited bomb load with no ballistics computer, AIM-9Js. I would play the Mirage 5 at 10.0 rather than the 5BA at 10.3.
@@wanoumars ah, I disagree. lots of fun in it. Yes they're 9Js but the damn thing is quite disturbingly quick, you can dogfight stuff, and the 9Js have decent enough range. I don't bomb in it
2nd asking a question from a returning player : Defyn, in your opinion, what is the bvest metric to see if you are doign well in a plane : win ratio, k/d ratio; kills per game ??? In the old days, with nation-locked maps and Flavor of the Month, we tended to dismiss win ratio, but now is it a better indicator of skill or not ?
I got a litle bit disapointed w the R73s, they are definetely fun but the main weapon of this thing is the R27R, sad it didnt use the ER irl, and i would find this plane dogshit at 12.3 just because it has R77s.
If i had to pick a Premium jet in the British tree (im at rank 7 with the FG.1 without a high rank premium British jet) I'd still pick this one. The others are awful BR wise and I do have a few MiG-21s so I -am- was familiar with the frame. + its the best/most modern MiG-21 in the game; that's enough for me!
@krispyjuniors7734 thank you. I will give them a shot. Had them researched for a while but never bothered playing them since it is not really my style.
@@TheBranchez no problem man, I had a blast with both of those. I know they had a nerf recently, and I haven’t tried them since. But from what I can tell, it doesn’t seem to have changed much. Have fun
i got a question i have been playing the game for a while and i want to get 2 premiums one jet and one tank what would you recommend for grinding a tech tree could be any tech tree thank you
I probably ought to ask it under a US prop video, but I'm not sure how far back you monitor comments XD Either way, if I wanted to research just two CAP fighters to serve as air cover specifically in US 6.7 GRB (meaning low altitude dogfights with no time for extensive maneuvering), which planes would you recommend? I'm concerned about potentially spending an eternity researching something I'll end up never using.
Im interested in grinding out britian for thw Tornados (not cuz they are good i just love them) so i might buy this thing when a few more patches calm down the fox3 shenanigens
man i have to grind the British tree i use to have it at the same lv as other nations but right now it stuck on the phantom. Same with Japan... I just don't play as much as i use to play. But feel that UK will get really good toy in the future.. Eurofighter, Indian Su30 and Rafael....
@@Alpha-uo2rn yeah i know it didn't happen, my dad met the guy who allegedly shot it down and he hinted that he didnt (he couldn't say it directly for obvious reasons)
I remember arguing about it with community manager on forums - even getting banned for calling him out on his BS claiming the Harrier without flares or RWR is "just fine" at 10.0... then they put A-10 and SU-25 at 9.7 with all aspect missiles...
@@Asghaad yeah, GR1 has no place at 9.7 or 10.0. It's horrible experience because you have to rely on the enemy making mistake. No other plane has to do that afaik. If you die to GR.1 you had to make a mistake.
The F-4J definitely isn't as bad as people seem to think it is, but yeah, I would have loved something more interesting as a new high tier premium. There are so many planes they could have chosen instead, but of course, it had to be something russian to piss a bunch of people off, just like they did with the Bhishma
@@Bezem1944 it USED to be grossly OP at 9.3 when there were no all aspects at that BR bracket and Sabres and Mig-15s used to be 8.-9.0 ... it SHOULD have been left at 9.7 because even then it was nothing but free food to MiG-19s, F-5s, F-8s, MiG-21s etc ... instead it was pushed to 10.0 when max was 11.0 and farmed 24/7 by then top tier Mig-21 BiS, F-4E and MiG-23 ... then came all aspect attackers ... we even asked at least for flares that were nothing but jurry rigged solution that was used for tech tree variants but the answer was "not historical" (meanwhile premium F-5 that was retired from US service before there was even concept of IR countermeasures at all had them ...) despite the same "just stuff it in storage compartment, drill some holes in the cover and lead wires into the cockpit" "solution" that was installed into AV8s headed for Falklands on route by the crew being used on tech tree ones as excuse to let them have flares ... its been more than year now and GR1 still faces radar guided missiles and all aspect heatseekers without RWR nor countermeasures ...
"No high rank premiums" aged so well... now little Timmy can get his hands on R-73s for $75 2 minutes into the game.
Let's be thankful they didn't give this thing the R-77s it's supposed to carry
@@bish189 real
Next update lighter f16 prototype
@@bish189 not gonna be thankful for the state of the game that basically top tier is a waste of time trading kills with people that cannot play anything that doesn't have missiles.
@@KauppaKomissaari Update after that F-15 Active with Aim-120s
R-27s on a MiG-21 look so fucking cursed.
Is actually supposed to carry R77s lol but gaijin decided not to give it to it.
@@voidgaming3700 Do you really think that'd be a good idea? They'd have to put it up at a higher BR.
I'd be fun. Balance? We never cared about it in the first place@@derkaiser9881
@@derkaiser9881Yes it would they already did a fucking F4
@@derkaiser9881 to me is not if it is a good or bad Idea is the historical fact of it, it carried r77 as its main missile, it should have gotten them but gaijin will probably save it for an event mig21-93 for russia.
I love how the cutaway gags never get old. lmao 50 seconds in and in already laughing. Cut away from you, totally not dying, btw
Defyn at 6 kills: "at this point I'm really frustrated" 😂
"I got 8 kills and a win heres the result, its not stellar"
its like when you are capable of completing something , say in warthunder you play well and lets say you're an 8.3-9.3 jet , you get 3-4 kills average from dogfights and decent aim , it makes you feel good . But than you get killed by an f104 third partying and than the next round is a full downtier but your teammate is their partying all your kills and you don't event get the kill because they died before you got a shot off or otherwise . Yes you'll still be getting 3-4 kills but it sucks to have something out of your control that you can capably deal with otherwise in other better suited planes or if certain aspects out of your control teammates uptiers etc weren't screwing you over . That 3-4 kill average won't feel as fun .
there is no more effective countermeasure ingame than that of an enemy's missile he decides to launch right as you launch at him.
no matter what kind of missile, for some reason another missile leaving the rail is genuinely more effective than any chaff or flare
Do you know why? I'll tell you if you don't..... the temperature of a rocket booster when firing can reach temps over 6000 degrees. Yes the seeker head on a missle that is guided by heat will probably prefer 6000 degrees over the jet engine which reaches 3,400 degrees. Does that make sense to you? I tried to be very clear.
@@miked815and why is said ir seeker not interested in an equally hot flare countermeasure?
@@miked815 yes, i am aware of the methods employed by heat seeking missiles to track heat. the problem is, past a very certain early age- around the mid to late 60s or so- missiles grew into better technologies that would help discriminate against background clutter. NOT to be confused with IRCCM, but instead general improvement against distractions from natural IR interference. this includes the pre-programmed knowledge of the average temperature range of a jet engine, which does not burn as hot as the 6000° rocket yes, thats actually the whole point. even earlier non-IRCCM missiles have this function too, provided its not an AIM-9B or R-3S. the very reason why flares work irl is because they are specifically engineered to burn at those same temperature ranges, thus mimicking the signature of a jet engine. the fact that any random motor of a rocket or missile can do this all, and more effectively than the specifically engineered countermeasure, is the problem. understand that??
@@blessthismessss did you really just try telling a self informed war thunder player that hes wrong? good luck
@@miked815the thing is that this happens with radar missiles as well - because for some goddamn reason the missile just doesn't care what I actually got in my TWS lock and goes for the nearest thing that has some sort of radar signature
YEAR OF THE 🦬
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@@DEFYN🦬🦬🦬🦬🦬
@@DEFYN year of the bussin
Nah I'd 🔥
🦬🦬
As a British main, this thing is fun. Not for being good but because R73s feel fun asf.
Mr. President, there's been a second Mirage
7:10 Literally what a mirage is lmao
let the Fishbed rest, it's so tired, it's been fighting for so long let it retire to a sunny beach community, it's earned it, please-
Nah, I want all the MiG-21's. And while we're at it give us the MiG-23 with R-27/73/77
Mig21 will settle down in snowy Russian countryside and live in a log cabin
Better retire it's main predator too in that case, a Phantom has no business at 12.7, AIM-120s or otherwise 😂
But it needed an HMD!
we need the J-7FS
🦬🦬🦬YEAR of da BISON 🦬
you should rename to WillieBison fr
@@DEFYNBillie_Bison mogging EVERYONE in da 🦬
@@williewalrus 🦬🦬🦬
17:12 Dutch man tries to avoid calling hill mountain, fails at the last second.
I love watching defyn and listening to words that I have no clue what they mean
I love watching defyn too
The worst part is I know exactly what he’s talking about absolute brainrot
Defyn is definitely a coward, why didn’t you take a dogfight when you had no missiles and only 2 cannon rounds? What are you bad?
Smh true WT players can win a dogfight without any ammo or fuel, defyn is a hoax
yeah, like just unleash your inner japanese and make your sensei proud
🗾
I've taken dogfights with no ammo before, it is fun. Not at top tier though lol.
The GOATson
🦬🦬🦬
Hot tip: call even the slightest hills mountains from now on and make everyone mad
10:08 has to be one of the realest br 10.0+ commentaries 🤣 like fr so many people just randomly crash in top tier its insane hahaha
"Yes this is a mountain, I am Dutch after all" I'm surprised you even know what a mountain is 😂😂
0:27 that thrust vectoring off the rail, holy fuck
5:00 Gaijin trying to bring flat earth belivers to play war thunder.
Found out the other day that this thing is at the same BR bracket for air sim as MiG-23s and early F-14s, pretty crazy
I hope the people asking to add old airframes with good missiles realize that the plane they want and love will never be competitive, in game or real life.
But wouldn't it be funny tho
add Cessna 152 with 2x AIM-9X to BR 9.3, it will be funny I promise you
@@Ben-mw9vz it would be so funny indeed, bro's not even going to leave the airfield when the game ends on ticket
I didn't know Max verstappen played war thunder too 👀
Man you have been smiling more than you ever do in this video
Maybe it's the bison speaking but I could see it
Keep it up
10.7-11.7 rotations in sim go NUTS in this thing
High tier premiums should be locked on "you need to be rank V and above to buy this"
Hi . Will make a video about plane energy retention ? Like how to know the plane have good energy retention or not . Also nation guide ? Like show the little bit of cut scene of a tech tree plane and mention what is good or bad compared against other nation same BR plane’s
I had no idea this thing had r73s I was using the 4j just using 1-2 flares to counter the missiles I guess most people using them are are just bricks rn
Year of the abysmal dogshit premiums
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Skill issue I guess, the plane is good at that br, got a 4kd on it 🥱
God I love Abysmal Dogshit
nah bison is actually decent as far as premiums go, and for a british premium - it's straight up the best. (well, i mean it's competition is f-4junk, it's kinda hard to be worse than that.)
@@dudka_i I'd rather take the F-4J(unk) at this point, not vibing with MiG-21s at all
I found the bison experience easy though, the loadout is still fine and ppl at this br have some skill issue so....sure sometimes ur just overwhelmed or unlucky with terrain and die but most of the times if u use ur brain ur gonna have good games
Yup so far I've had the same experience with it
Defyn. Mirage 5BA. The cooler Mirage 5. The actually vaguely decent Mirage 5. Even if it is in the French tree.
5BA is probably the worst Mirage of the game lol
Limited bomb load with no ballistics computer, AIM-9Js. I would play the Mirage 5 at 10.0 rather than the 5BA at 10.3.
@@wanoumars ah, I disagree. lots of fun in it. Yes they're 9Js but the damn thing is quite disturbingly quick, you can dogfight stuff, and the 9Js have decent enough range. I don't bomb in it
@@wanoumars don’t care for bombs personally, strictly a dog fighter, having a decent time in the 5BA 🤷🏾♂️
I’d rather fly the Mirage IIIE personally
bi son came out during pride month 🦬🦬🦬
That was such a clutch move when you manipulated that Mig 21 to rip his wings! Love your vids, as always ❤️
We have mig-29 at home.
Mig-29 at home:
11:05
Yes, War Thunder is nothing but a one, giant mind game.
(The issue is that Gaijin wins every time, rip)
WE ARE FEELING THE POWERCREEP WITH THIS ONE 🦬🦬🦬🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️💯💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥
Chef Rush: Let me fix this 🦬🦬
I love it when Defyn said "its truly a year to 🦬!" and proceeded to 🦬🦬🦬all over everyone!
Been loving this jet
“Well erm ackshually the year of 2024 is the dragon according to the Chinese calendar” 🤓🤓🤓☝️
🦬
2nd asking a question from a returning player :
Defyn, in your opinion, what is the bvest metric to see if you are doign well in a plane : win ratio, k/d ratio; kills per game ???
In the old days, with nation-locked maps and Flavor of the Month, we tended to dismiss win ratio, but now is it a better indicator of skill or not ?
It's a good day when you get nine kills in an air RB game and defyn posts
What rank 8 ussr planes should I grind. Should I skip the Mig-29 and go for the Su-27 or use the Mig-29?
mig 29 for sure
I honestly prefer the mig29 flight model over the Su-27
could you do how to avoid ARH and SARH missiles like in anyway possible ?
Why did they feel the need to add a MiG-21 to the british tree?
Year of DEFYN
“Coward?” no “Tactician”
I got a litle bit disapointed w the R73s, they are definetely fun but the main weapon of this thing is the R27R, sad it didnt use the ER irl, and i would find this plane dogshit at 12.3 just because it has R77s.
The BUSSIN BISON
sometimes I'm chaffing and flaring like crazy and still getting hit by a missile. Especialy phoenixes. Any help pls?
If i had to pick a Premium jet in the British tree (im at rank 7 with the FG.1 without a high rank premium British jet) I'd still pick this one. The others are awful BR wise and I do have a few MiG-21s so I -am- was familiar with the frame. + its the best/most modern MiG-21 in the game; that's enough for me!
Its the Year of the Bison 🦬🦬🦬🦬 ....
Are u making video on tornado f3 late?
Sadly yes
@@DEFYN use the black camo it’s got a cheeky catchphrase on the back 😉
Its already done 🫡
But i did use that
absolute 🦬🦬🦬🦬
70 years of MiG-21 "Fishbed" in 2026
Click on this faster than Gaijin ability to remove British Bias in the ground tech tree😂
How do you go to 1% afterburner?
What keybind
Reduced throttle sensitivity is how I do it. I suspect DEFYN has a better way though.
If your DEFYN then how can you hear RWR?
Just wait till Buffalo bill starts playing the bison
YEAR OF THE BISON
what radar settings do you use for the radar to follow your crosshair?
when you land do you slide or use gear
Truly a 🦬 moment.
So which of the USSR MiG-21s are actually worth playing?
Ussr has the 21bis and 21smt, both are good enough to play.
@krispyjuniors7734 thank you. I will give them a shot. Had them researched for a while but never bothered playing them since it is not really my style.
@@TheBranchez no problem man, I had a blast with both of those. I know they had a nerf recently, and I haven’t tried them since. But from what I can tell, it doesn’t seem to have changed much. Have fun
smt
Yes! Ty defyn
I see that Sea Harrier crewed
It's honestly a perfect premium
i got a question i have been playing the game for a while and i want to get 2 premiums one jet and one tank what would you recommend for grinding a tech tree could be any tech tree thank you
Snail should have given this R-77s. That is the actual BVR missile for the Bison, not the R-27
Than it will go to at least 12.3, which would make its life a lot more miserable
@@qidongxu It'd have F-4F ICE issues.
@@derkaiser9881 and of course, it would not sell as a premium that way.
You want an even worse experience flying this thing? I love mig21s and honestly glad it doesn’t have r77, mf airframe doesn’t need to be any higher
Ive been away from the game for a bit, in the current meta, which jet is the best for the jet top tier duel tournaments in your opinion?
I couldn't even edge to this...😅 I busted IMMEDIATELY!!😮 clean up isle my pants!!! 😂😂
I probably ought to ask it under a US prop video, but I'm not sure how far back you monitor comments XD
Either way, if I wanted to research just two CAP fighters to serve as air cover specifically in US 6.7 GRB (meaning low altitude dogfights with no time for extensive maneuvering), which planes would you recommend? I'm concerned about potentially spending an eternity researching something I'll end up never using.
Should be called the Wooly Bully
Is there any chance you could do a video on some Swedish air stuffs I’m kinda having a tough time with it.
Year of the skibidi sigma 🦬🦬🦬🦬🦬
will you do a video on the Baz Meshupar?
Im interested in grinding out britian for thw Tornados (not cuz they are good i just love them) so i might buy this thing when a few more patches calm down the fox3 shenanigens
Impressive
man i have to grind the British tree i use to have it at the same lv as other nations but right now it stuck on the phantom. Same with Japan... I just don't play as much as i use to play. But feel that UK will get really good toy in the future.. Eurofighter, Indian Su30 and Rafael....
Gaijin should add it to the ussr tech tree as a non-premium.
Gaijoobles PLEASE add the current Indian Air Force roundel, the one in the game was something we used for 3 years and dropped
YEAR OF THE F-16 SLAYER RAHHHHHHHH 🦬🦬🦬🦬🦬🦬🦬🦬
No evidence
@@Alpha-uo2rn yeah i know it didn't happen, my dad met the guy who allegedly shot it down and he hinted that he didnt (he couldn't say it directly for obvious reasons)
This thing shot down f16
Phoenixes you just have to work out if one is headed at you and just run away and reset
i cant wait to see R-73 on the MLD or be in 10.7
bro the missiles are bigger than the plane itself :skull:
Goofy ahh plane
Bibon 🦬
Bison bison bison bison
I got your decal on Saturday
I keep pronouncing "the bison" like a french dude
now waiting on the MiG-23-98 with R-77 3 updates later
I got that and its awesome
Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo
Defyn u are the best player of warthunder but speak slowly plzzz
25 seconds ago, never been so early to a DEFYN video
DEFYN, I'll take this over F-4JUNK, thx
When they gonna add the aim 260?
lol funny seeing f14s constantly getting smacked by IRs cause they’re engines are hotter than the sun 💀
I wish UK got decent high tier premium. I bought Harrier years ago and every time I play it I wish car hit me on the day I bought it.
I remember arguing about it with community manager on forums - even getting banned for calling him out on his BS claiming the Harrier without flares or RWR is "just fine" at 10.0... then they put A-10 and SU-25 at 9.7 with all aspect missiles...
@@Asghaad yeah, GR1 has no place at 9.7 or 10.0. It's horrible experience because you have to rely on the enemy making mistake. No other plane has to do that afaik. If you die to GR.1 you had to make a mistake.
The F-4J definitely isn't as bad as people seem to think it is, but yeah, I would have loved something more interesting as a new high tier premium.
There are so many planes they could have chosen instead, but of course, it had to be something russian to piss a bunch of people off, just like they did with the Bhishma
@@Bezem1944 it USED to be grossly OP at 9.3 when there were no all aspects at that BR bracket and Sabres and Mig-15s used to be 8.-9.0 ... it SHOULD have been left at 9.7 because even then it was nothing but free food to MiG-19s, F-5s, F-8s, MiG-21s etc ...
instead it was pushed to 10.0 when max was 11.0 and farmed 24/7 by then top tier Mig-21 BiS, F-4E and MiG-23 ... then came all aspect attackers ...
we even asked at least for flares that were nothing but jurry rigged solution that was used for tech tree variants but the answer was "not historical" (meanwhile premium F-5 that was retired from US service before there was even concept of IR countermeasures at all had them ...) despite the same "just stuff it in storage compartment, drill some holes in the cover and lead wires into the cockpit" "solution" that was installed into AV8s headed for Falklands on route by the crew being used on tech tree ones as excuse to let them have flares ...
its been more than year now and GR1 still faces radar guided missiles and all aspect heatseekers without RWR nor countermeasures ...
Can u make guide sale soon?