The Energy God - MiG-19S
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Forgot to mention:
ruclips.net/video/QU-EVW1K7-E/видео.html
That's more of a carry example in the MiG-19 so check that out if you're interested. Everything said there still applies
Yea i like to call the enemy pussy too when they camp the AAA
Your rant at the end probably deserves a video of its own, you make some excellent compelling points.
Hi Defyn. There might be a little chance that I have a solution for the airfield AA problem.
As someone who's played a lot of Germany 5.7 Air RB I know all too well that bombers contribute generally very little to winning the match. The reason for this is that they're basically playing their own game. Bomb bases, RTB and repeat. This is their way of trying to win the match (not that in practice a win is actually achieved that way, generally speaking). Fighters however, generally try to win the match by taking down all the enemy fighters and eventually all the attackers and bombers.
The 2 are not intertwined at all and they do not complement each other, which is bad for gameplay.
I would like to propose a solution to this as well as to the Airfield AA problem. It is as follows:
Instead of making bombers bomb bases, let them bomb the airfield and make it that in doing so they disable AA for a limited amount of time. (And, if needed, make it so that the AA also has a short timeframe of invulnerability roughly halfway through the match.) This way the bombers actually support the fighter effort. This also means that fighters who play cowardly only have limited access to a safe airfield, and that players have to time their return to the base. Players could also anticipate on this, which will make gameplay probably more dynamic. Perhaps players even need to defend the airfield at times in order for their teammates to take off. This stimulates team effort and communication. This solution also means that fighters have a motive to escort bombers.
It's just a quick draft, there probably are some flaws and it will need nuance for different tiers.
@@johnathancooper3897 agreed
what fuel load is optimal with this aircraft ?
"its as shrimple as that"
so shrimple
18:27 Most mentally stable WT player
yo i see you in comments all the time man, you must love war thunder content
@@TheRealHalolad nope, i just watch defyn and jetnoob
@@SeekerHead lol
the best week of this year has been the one where defyn decided to go hard into youtube. i have been playing everyday that i see one of his vids. at this point, they should just let defyn redesign all the tutorials in game, or link to his videos. no other youtuber breaks it down like he does. also, as an english teacher in brazil, his english is top grade, its not easy to get that good at a second language.
keep flying high bud
Quite the praise, thanks :)
Just let him change ARB maps and AAA lmfao
Everything you said is true, breakdown of munitions etc has helped me so much in war thunder understanding my opponents and how to eliminate them better than any war thunder tutorial
What the hell, I thought he was English. Now I can make sense of the “lack” of accent
He’s not a native speaker??
If it’s any consolation you’ve taught me so much from watching your videos that I’ve never once thought that I should use the airfields as a weapon, your channel taught me how to play air rb, but most of all I love your videos for you and the great content you provide, I learn something new almost every video, thank you Defyn
Defyn is one of the (if not the) best at explaining how to play air rb
My favorite part is that his explanation of a plane isn’t based on his opinion but rather he explains the plane and forms his opinion off of that explanation
13:00 I love how you transfer from commentary, to pissed to malding XDDDD
It's not malding it's stating fax
@@thatguy7990 nah it's malding.
The a32 could do nothing. Even if he was to reverse him, a mig19 would easily pull itself out of it.
The only thing you can do if there's something like 3 people following you and they're in better planes than you, is going to the airfield hoping they greedy enough to get killed by AA
@@p_filippouzdid you not watch the video? its not his problem the a32’s entire team died. he chose to play a shit plane and he died because of that
@@Josanfrr ah yes, surely, the destiny of the entire match relied on this single a32, and it's ENTIRELY his fault his team died.
Oh please.
@@p_filippouz I think in reality, he isn’t really talking about that guy but about the AA and how they effect player mentality.
The way I view it, airbase as unnaturally prolong matches that should have ended ages ago and makes the game boring as all hell and serves only to annoy, and the mid-map AA only serve to be random threats that have a random chance at randomly hitting you at the most inconvenient of times. It’s the reality of how AA affects the game sometimes and we have to just accept it.
However, by itself, this rant is half completely understandable and yeah half malding. I think him and many other people are half way to the right solution but they aren’t quite there yet. The only way I see this problem being fixed is if the air modes get completely and utterly revamped and changed. The mode just isn’t designed well enough to adjust to how modern war thunder is and it’s also boring and lame as hell and overall is just badly designed.
Judging by the comments, this thing should be facing props lol
In my genuine opinion,the Mig-19 are a “skill check”
@@kirby1601 Good way to put it
Would be harder tbh
@@kirby1601 no its bad
@@PuineaGip It's a great fighter, but it faces missiles that are completely impossible to dodge at short range like the R-60.
the ending XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
this has to be one of your most meaningfull videos defy
Agreed.
Mig19’s are probably the most fun you can have in that hell of a BR range (9.3-10.3) except maybe short of the Ariete IMO. One of the best aircraft for clutch situations as well. I find myself playing the mig19s quite a bit.
oh hey its joob, nice
forward base aaa needs to be maybe a couple flak guns and that's it...instead, you get hitscan'd immediately the second you stray within 6km ... and dont even start with the midfield aaa in mozdok, or that small winter map - the one with two opposing trenches of machineguns in the middle. hitscan all fluids empty with red wings and pilot within 5 seconds of hearing those first shells blasting by. Can't get away from it because you're in a prop. That is still somehow a thing to this day.
lmao it was horrid cancer but the only upside to the mid map buff was all the dope environmental fights that get set up by not being in hitscan range. That shit made me put mountains in front of me and the AAA
defyn going from an average commentary to a mental breakdown in a single video.
brother I hope the AAA bullshit doesn't take a toll on you too hard :) (still thanks for the daily upload, they're all fun to watch & it teaches you a thing or 2 at the very least)
Tbh i'm kinda surprised he didn't quit yet, i did like most good players over years. People are coimng up with alot of ideas of how to fix this issue for like 6 or 7 years by now, and all they do is buff them even more every once in a while. It's legit same shit since like 2015-16, people are abusing shit out of it, you literally cannot have single match without someone camping airfield.
Most maps with most planes you can't even bleed tickets because you don't have good enough guns nor enough rockets/bombs to destroy pillboxes and medium/heavy tanks in time
@@southweststrangla9591 fun fact: your team also has an airfield. It the long straight strip where you can land and rearm
@@TheByQQ that does not address his point at all
@@ChannelMiner and his point isn't an issue, so we're even.
@@TheByQQ It 100% is an issue, some games you kill the entire enemy team then one guy is just flying in circles in his airfield.
The game could be over already, but instead what happens? Instead is that the game goes for an extra 15 minutes while the winning team are forced to ground pound when they already won and the game could be over already.
Do you think it's ok for people to draw out games they have already lost? They are just wasting everyone's time.
17:51 "landing is a privilege not a right" is my fav sentence from the vid, got me thinking about the hole thing, great video as always mr defyn#
This video is incredibly useful, was having trouble grinding the russian tree because of the A10 spam. Much appreciated DEFYN!
THANK YOU! Thanks for bringing up the out of place AA in Air RB and the constant abuse of it by most players. It's really fucking annoying and probably one of the main reasons why I just quit playing RB and went back to Air Arcade because there, at least you get respawns and tiny maps with quick arcady action. In the last Air RB game I played, I was in the F-5C, I killed 2 enemy planes and was running low on ammo and fuel being the last player of my team left alive (one idiot teammate rammed my friend in the beginning of the game) with no enemies anywhere near me so I went to refuel my plane, take off and fly to the center of the map. None of the other 2 enemy players were in the center. Where were they you might ask? both camping at their airfield. flying low altitude circles around the airfield because they knew I would be suicidal to fly in that. So I turned around to get back to the center of the map, the second I turned around they spammed 6 missiles at me and I died. Top tier gameplay with no possibility of counterplay is what's killing the game and I'm sick and tired of it.
I fucking hate these no-skill cheesy playstyles that are even rewarded by War Thunder...
It's just like when 2 years ago I was flying the XP-50 in Air RB and the last remaining enemy plane was a bomber with 10 minutes of the game remaining and flying at like 10-11km altitude and I was unable to get even close to 2km below him within that time so he just won, doing nothing but flying away all game and pressing the spacebar a couple times. It just drives me fucking mad.
For real arcade is the only fun air mode, it’s not fun to fly for minutes after having to take off and then just have people all the way at their base all game or just waiting up at 20km and dive with pulse Doppler missiles
arcade is fun, but not with the top tier imo
@@rxzxqx6982 sim is good too, but last time I've scored 6 kills and 6 deaths with some time at cap zone, I've lost 100k sl with active premium...
@@adrianstachowski9422 i played sim and did like 23 kills with 5 deaths with a 183k SL profit
Feel like the ideal solution is to just remove missiles.
The mig 19S was my favourite plane in the game for the longest time. I kept playing it well into the missile meta and it was still fun for awhile but it’s slowly being beaten into an early grave. It’s a shame because it was so enjoyable to dogfight with. Many pilots don’t expect a fighter to be turnfighting at this tier and it catches a lot of people by surprise. I miss this thing being competitive.
I was playing MiG-19S not long ago when grinding the German tree. I have managed to get 2.8k/d 86 kills with 31 deaths to be exact after 63 missions. That is coming from just above average air RB player, I'm nowhere near DEFYN skill but I'm not terrible either so I would say this plane is still very competitive. It just has to be played somewhat right.
MiG-19 was the king all the way until Draken introduction.
@@TrixoPLAYS I'm not saying it's impossible to play or anything, but the style of the plane isn't as enjoyable as it once was. The meta has shifted. And flying the mig 19 feels like a chore rather than a test of skill to me.
@@TrixoPLAYS I was in the F-104 and I was energy trapped by a mig-19s. It's a little UFO.
I'm doing great even with the MiG 19 in this meta, even 30 g missiles can be dodged from the right aspect so while it may be harder, its engines can still carry it.
It seems like they generally buffed AA as well because a decent portion of the time when I'm above AA in the middle of the map even like 3km up I'll get tagged by it, it makes maps with loads of AA in the center extremely annoying. It used to be unless you were outside of airfield you could generally ignore AA, but I've died to the ground AA trucks a couple times recently. It really feels like they got an accuracy buff for whatever reason.
I feel you, got set on fire at 3km alt when playing at 2.3, i dont think AAA should be that good especially on low tier maps when many players dont really climb to alt
Was 1v1 a guy, we were the last people in the game, I was in a Ki-84 ko and he was in an F2G. We had similar energy, he head-on me and then went back to his airfield even though we were in the middle of the map. As I slowly chased him, an AA in the middle of the map set me on fire in 1 hit and I lost the game. Great stuff
Gaijin skill issued you
If you bought more GE, you wouldn't have died. Bozo moment.
@@HandlesAreDumb420 I laughed thank you
"energy god" is a very fitting name to this plane :)
recently found your channel and really glad I did; your play by play explanation is refreshing compared to every other wt creator and your English is impeccable. thanks for all the effort you put into these and your future videos, i appreciate you.
I feel like the "bad player doesn't know how to defend himself except with base aa" argument is a good segue into the defensive flying guide
That was an absolutely epic rant, I was actually laughing out loud!
You are the only link I still have to warthunder.
In a couple of months it's been 10 years since I started playing. And now the only connection I have with the game is a RUclips channel I watch every minute of.
Keep doing what you do!
I have to say I completly agree with the airfield strafing and i tend to do it alot without myself being strafed at all i rarely get strafed, if i have atleast ammo and abit of fuel when there's one person left I'd head over to the airfield and likely they'd be there
I love to do airfield stafing with the Mig 19 lol, people don't expect me to do it
Such a fun plane. Shame it has to deal with such a missile heavy br with no counter measures
there has to be a transition BR between missile and countermeasure carrying planes and planes that have tradeoffs in mobility/missiles/countermeasures.
like the AV8 has decent missiles and counter measures, but its subsonic and as agile as a brick, on the other hand you have mig 19 and j35A with good performance and agility but bad/no missiles and no countermeasures. I see 9.7 as a tradeoff BR, and we have to have one somewhere in the tech tree.
If it had flares it would be super fun
You see Defyn dodge all these missiles all game long and you still think you really need them? Smh.
@@railgun1 Most of the time those were 10-15G missiles that are easy to evade, but if you get uptiered, an AIM-9J/P is not nearly as easy to avoid, let alone an R-60
Just fly the chinese Q5A, Basically the same plane but 9.0 with flares and RWR.
DEFYN you have taught me a lot in this game, do's and dont's be them: "do this maneuver here" "do that maneuver there" or "dont take out this plane" they are all very important. i will be applying some of this to my su7 gameplay. obviously its not the same plane so it wont line up 100%, but you have taught me a lot, mainly that i need to complete my lineup of the bad planes in this br range. being the demon, lightning, fga9, lansen, cl sabre, k sabre, g91ys, super mystere, yak38, defyn thanks for the content and even putting out videos coincidentally about vehicles im contemplating or having serious skill issues playing. keep looooping my friend.
Thank you for covering this plane. So many times I try to tell people it is a monster that requires skill and they don't believe me. Then they're surprised when I'm dancing around 3 people without breaking a sweat. Hopefully it gets some more respect
Agreed, every week there's a Reddit post on how the Mig 19 is overtiered and has to face missiles...
@@sheeesssh646 Funny enough, it's one of few aircraft where I'm not very scared of Magics and R-60's. If I'm at combat speeds, those things just don't have the agility to hit me.
@@Registered_Simp Kinda depends on the altitude tbh
@@sheeesssh646 Well yeah, go high enough and an Aim-9B is impossible to out-maneuver. That's why these two magical attributes called situational awareness and positioning are so important when you are up high
The MiG-19 really is a god tier plane. It will punish lesser skilled pilots, but a good pilot will absolutely excell in this thing.
I always admired your dedication to your work. Keep it up and you'll hit 100K in no time.
This is one of my favorite planes in game all mig 19 based aircraft, but my favorite one is the A5C, 10.0 with 2 Majics and an untouchable flight model.
Same. I love flying the mig 19pl.
How is DEFYN this good but also a good teacher. He actually tells you why he's doing something
That rant hit right on the spot.
Right there where it should be, much love
The aa rant is so good, literal music to my ears, I agree 100%. More please.
what an incredible coincidence, I bought it recently and I really liked this plane, and you make a video about it, cool
Love you so much. Agreed on everything that was said in the last parts of the video. So done with AAA
You taught me how to not GLOC while playing jets and my play got a 100x better. Keep up the great vids, man!
I literally love watching your gameplay .❤
two of my favorite plane in 2 days in a row, that's too much for me Defyn I love you
Thank you for the daily uploads!
Another excelent AAA rant, keep them up! 👍
Defyn is a legend for this, waking up every morning to his videos to start my day
Thanks for being an awesome teacher
The AA on this game is a shame
while i'm still unironically shit at ARB, your videos still give me hope :))
thanks for the full week of uploads!
The Q-5A is basically a MiG-19 at 9.0, super fun.
The Q-5A also has the second earliest flares after the A-4E. Very interesting plane, but it's probably stiff like the A-5C.
I requested this on the discussion post, but I’d really love a guide from you about how to dodge/notch missiles. I have nearly a 5.0 kd with the MiG-15bis, mostly because it rarely sees the caliber of missiles that the MiG-19PT does. When it comes to the 19, I have quite a bit more trouble dealing with missiles, and my kd is barely 1.5. I see the potential when I fly it due to the ridiculous flight performance, but I can’t seem to do as well with it when I need to avoid missiles. Love the vids, congrats on 40k!
notching is just flying perpendicular to the person painting you with the radar. to notch you need to be above MAR (minimum abort range: minimum range needed to defeat a missile). MAR at least in my experience is generally farther than 10km. If you are more than 10km out from the missile, simply fly perpendicular to the plane painting you. if you are below MAR it is mostly 50/50 since you cannot notch the missile before splash so you have to maneuver and chaff to attempt to defeat the missile. within 3km the missile will generally not lock in time to account for a defensive maneuver so you are good there.
note: notching works best against planes that have pulse doppler radars since they rely on relative movement.
The wisest words about taking responsibility for your own decisions and airfield aaa problem ever said
That rant in the end. Made be feel better, I feel the same way.
Thank you for great video, good points made......cheers
I remember this thing being a menace for a short time after it got the engine buff. It could out accelerate and out energy everything, and you saw them everywhere. As soon as the missiles became more prominent, it went out of favor.
Ive been struggling with the mig19
This was very helpful
The guns are the last obstacle for me
man that aa rant was therapeutic, took the words out of my mouth
i have tried to play my MiG-19PT again as well as my favorite props like the Ki-84 Ko, F4U-4B, Pyromyrsky and Yak-9U but I always face campers, and god I FUCKING LOVE MY PROP GETTING GUNNED DOWN BY A VULCAN FROM THE 70S STILL IN SERVICE lol
Something about defyns accent mixed with an angry AA-rant makes this video so magical for me
The salty part at the end was a bit much, but thanks to the introduction to this plane
So as a question could u explain in more detail soon about this?
I’m kinda bad with this plane but really love the play style. I die to aim 9L or delta wings usually on the third “loop”.
i started watching all your videos lately and stopped being a airfield runner. instead i started to try everything to win against the enemy on my own and when it works, its amazing :) keep ip your great work/videos.
Hey man, congrats on no longer being a runner! I just have a few questions if you wouldn't mind answering.
How long were you an airfield runner for? Did you run even when your team was losing? Do you regret your choices to run previously?
Congrats!
love these videos, you're incredibly skilled. looking at getting an f89b to dog around at 6.7, is it any fun?
I also love those players that try to missile the guy in front of you, through you.
The absolute insane energy and acceleration this thing has is why I play it
I love the German MIG-15 for the same reasons
I love this plane… I discovered that running 7m on it actually makes it a missile in acceleration so that’s how I usually run it .3.
I watch this all the time because it carries brutal aaa honesty
getting teamkilled by second row missile is pretty common among A5C players... Zhōng Xìna moment
Great video, great plane
"...Landing is a privilege, not a right..." Defyn, 2022
If this had countermeasures then it would be untouchable
A-5C
@@davidboy45 imo A-5C is fucking ugly. Same for the Q-5 and J-6
@@H-cranky how dare you
@@davidboy45 A5C does not have much in common with the mig 19 flight model wise.
you are misinformed i think.
@@davidboy45 a5c is a cheap Chinese ripoff of the mig19 they cannot be compared
In a dogfight the a5c gets stomped
I have not yet played the MiG 19s. But I have played and spaded the MiG 19pt. I am looking forward to this one. Just want to finish with the MiG 21F13 and the F5E before I return to the German air trees.
"Landing is a privilege, not a right." More people need to hear that.
This plane is beautiful, i love the aesthetic
14:50 Preach it bro, im so sick people running away, also mid mad AAA one shotting my engine .
What's the muzzle velocity on these guns? Sometimes you seem to lead 6 planes ahead and sometimes you lead just 1 ahead instead?
Hey Defyn, would you consider flying the Mig21F-13? It’s a lot of fun at 9.3, high skill/high reward plane, might be up your alley
Everyone just runs back to the airfield is getting ridiculous now XD
Love his rants
Could you do a review on the j32 lansen? I’d like to know your thoughts on it being 9.7.
I fucking love this plane. Even when I just test flew it, it felt great. Extremely fast, nice acceleration, refuses to lose speed and nice guns. A wonderful plane
The MiG-19S is one of the few planes I've flown where I've *accidentally* punched through 10km alt. The plane is energy defined.
Hi defyn any idea how can I keep track of aiming reticle? I know it sounds stupid but im losing it from sight when diving, it blends with the ground even though it is red. I imagine turning colour to cyan would suck near sea
Change color or shape. I find the 'counter strike' crosshairs in neon green work fine for me. The color's bright enough to not blend in too much.
More super props next? Also love the video keep it up!
other thing i need to know what type ammo you using? I heard once in gaijin's shooting range they preferred group targets ammo belt over air ammo belt. so what is good?
sorry ground target
Hey dude, I've been watching your videos for a while now and I was wondering if you could make a video in which you show your complete keybinds and explain for newer players what's important etc, because I've already arrived at the jets, but have the feeling that my settings are not very good
I might be wrong, but I honestly think airfield camping would be significantly lessened if repair costs would be either removed or just reduced to a point where players are not punished by the game for a bad match or a streak of bad matches. People's play style is greatly impacted by the fear of repair costs following poor performance.
If the only cost of playing poorly, trying to learn was the time invested in a match there would be much more incentive to keep trying, to put up an actual fight instead running away to the airfield with your tail between your legs.
Players kissing the ground to deny a kill is pure scrub bullshit though.
You will see people camp their base in planes that cost next to nothing to repair, you will see it at lower tiers and you will see it at top tier.
It’s not the repair cost, it’s the instinctive “I am in trouble so I have to run” mechanism kicking in because these players did not start playing the game without camping their airfields, so now, this is all they know how to do.
If its about SL, you can land, repair, refuel and J out.
Amazing skill... I ve been in top tier for a couple of months but I don't know how to maneuver the plane while looking around! This is a major disadvantage for me and I recognize that as I m looking you playing. How is it possible?
The AA camping situation from my experience has been a mix of frustration and as you said DEFYN predictable, I mostly play US top-tier air ( Kris_pe_bacon* if you feel the need for a stat check). While there aren't many occasions where the last enemy player runs to the airfield, the times it happens procced with a low alt chase through AA fire and eventually resulting in the enemy player crashing into the ground. You've hit the nail on the head when it comes to the point that AA should not dictate the game, thankfully Gaijin's added feature of ticket deduction makes the AF camping a bit more bearable. Geat Video.
I can learn so much from your gameplay
I was in a match a few weeks ago and me and this f2g started to dogfight and he got so nervous he ran back to the airfield.. the best part about this I was in the AR-234B, now I don't play bombers that often anymore but I can give room to the AR-234B as it was the first reconnaissance jet in 1944.. I have took it in Sim a few times and after seeing the cockpit view.. in my opinion it has the best cockpit in the game
you are submitting sooo many videos these days respect+ my guy
im so happy defyn has the same mentality on the players returning to base issue.
can you make a revisited ones for F-100D and how it handle around 9.7-10.3 matches?
Any chance on F-11F1 vid?
If I’m in the situation where my team dies and I’m the last one, I will usually J out or land then J out, that’s one of the reasons I run back to the airfield, another option is I say who wants a free kill then end the match. I’m probably the only nice guy in this game.
I actually love the camper rants.
Just from hearing that engine noise I can hear coughing.
Love the plane, I do decently in it, and fly it similarly as shown in both MiG-19 vids (i use 500m), however leading the guns+the rudder is the biggest issue for me, any helpful tips?
Try rolling and elevator to line up instead
Whats your convergence and do you have vertical targeting switched on? My biggest struggle are the guns.. Can't hit a broad side of the barn form the inside with it.
600 no VT
Always in description:)
@@DEFYN Thank you, havent seen it.. My bad
can you make a new video of the g.91ys in the current state of arb?
The RWR on the mig 19 only works against planes radar?
Defyn how to change the color of those hud stuff?
14:50 damn what a shot
When the Mig-21 was being tested it had 2 different wing designs one being basically that of the Mig-19 I’m wondering now if that would’ve been a better choice sacrificing high aoa for critical dogfighting capabilities
I still say that these last pure dogfighters are over BR-ed! And when it comes the MiG-19S; I'd trade that 3rd gun for more ammo anytime, or even for a radar!
gosh dam love this guy
The right thing knows when it's right because it knows when it's wrong.
Well well well, I've been playing this thing right all along. I think its main problem is getting third partied by missiles. Other than that, the name "Energy God" is quite fitting...