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Комментарии • 627

  • @DEFYN
    @DEFYN  2 года назад +127

    Forgot to mention:
    ruclips.net/video/QU-EVW1K7-E/видео.html
    That's more of a carry example in the MiG-19 so check that out if you're interested. Everything said there still applies

    • @gazzol9787
      @gazzol9787 2 года назад

      Yea i like to call the enemy pussy too when they camp the AAA

    • @johnathancooper3897
      @johnathancooper3897 2 года назад +13

      Your rant at the end probably deserves a video of its own, you make some excellent compelling points.

    • @pienter593
      @pienter593 2 года назад +7

      Hi Defyn. There might be a little chance that I have a solution for the airfield AA problem.
      As someone who's played a lot of Germany 5.7 Air RB I know all too well that bombers contribute generally very little to winning the match. The reason for this is that they're basically playing their own game. Bomb bases, RTB and repeat. This is their way of trying to win the match (not that in practice a win is actually achieved that way, generally speaking). Fighters however, generally try to win the match by taking down all the enemy fighters and eventually all the attackers and bombers.
      The 2 are not intertwined at all and they do not complement each other, which is bad for gameplay.
      I would like to propose a solution to this as well as to the Airfield AA problem. It is as follows:
      Instead of making bombers bomb bases, let them bomb the airfield and make it that in doing so they disable AA for a limited amount of time. (And, if needed, make it so that the AA also has a short timeframe of invulnerability roughly halfway through the match.) This way the bombers actually support the fighter effort. This also means that fighters who play cowardly only have limited access to a safe airfield, and that players have to time their return to the base. Players could also anticipate on this, which will make gameplay probably more dynamic. Perhaps players even need to defend the airfield at times in order for their teammates to take off. This stimulates team effort and communication. This solution also means that fighters have a motive to escort bombers.
      It's just a quick draft, there probably are some flaws and it will need nuance for different tiers.

    • @pienter593
      @pienter593 2 года назад

      @@johnathancooper3897 agreed

    • @thecoolmagnet3785
      @thecoolmagnet3785 2 года назад

      what fuel load is optimal with this aircraft ?

  • @jschuh0509
    @jschuh0509 2 года назад +451

    the best week of this year has been the one where defyn decided to go hard into youtube. i have been playing everyday that i see one of his vids. at this point, they should just let defyn redesign all the tutorials in game, or link to his videos. no other youtuber breaks it down like he does. also, as an english teacher in brazil, his english is top grade, its not easy to get that good at a second language.
    keep flying high bud

    • @DEFYN
      @DEFYN  2 года назад +110

      Quite the praise, thanks :)

    • @Metrallaroja
      @Metrallaroja 2 года назад +19

      Just let him change ARB maps and AAA lmfao

    • @paulbrown3302
      @paulbrown3302 2 года назад +2

      Everything you said is true, breakdown of munitions etc has helped me so much in war thunder understanding my opponents and how to eliminate them better than any war thunder tutorial

    • @javispiq01
      @javispiq01 2 года назад +1

      What the hell, I thought he was English. Now I can make sense of the “lack” of accent

    • @andrelin4345
      @andrelin4345 2 года назад +1

      He’s not a native speaker??

  • @dakotahondalock5621
    @dakotahondalock5621 2 года назад +198

    If it’s any consolation you’ve taught me so much from watching your videos that I’ve never once thought that I should use the airfields as a weapon, your channel taught me how to play air rb, but most of all I love your videos for you and the great content you provide, I learn something new almost every video, thank you Defyn

    • @matythebunny
      @matythebunny 2 года назад +5

      Defyn is one of the (if not the) best at explaining how to play air rb

    • @dakotahondalock5621
      @dakotahondalock5621 2 года назад +5

      My favorite part is that his explanation of a plane isn’t based on his opinion but rather he explains the plane and forms his opinion off of that explanation

  • @herz2956
    @herz2956 2 года назад +171

    "its as shrimple as that"

    • @cooq69
      @cooq69 3 месяца назад +1

      so shrimple

  • @ATBatmanMALS31
    @ATBatmanMALS31 2 года назад +572

    Judging by the comments, this thing should be facing props lol

    • @kirby1601
      @kirby1601 2 года назад +100

      In my genuine opinion,the Mig-19 are a “skill check”

    • @sheeesssh646
      @sheeesssh646 2 года назад +4

      @@kirby1601 Good way to put it

    • @mAnDaL__
      @mAnDaL__ 2 года назад +3

      Would be harder tbh

    • @PuineaGip
      @PuineaGip 2 года назад +2

      @@kirby1601 no its bad

    • @dti1312
      @dti1312 2 года назад +34

      @@PuineaGip It's a great fighter, but it faces missiles that are completely impossible to dodge at short range like the R-60.

  • @SeekerHead
    @SeekerHead 2 года назад +290

    18:27 Most mentally stable WT player

    • @TheRealHalolad
      @TheRealHalolad 2 года назад +3

      yo i see you in comments all the time man, you must love war thunder content

    • @SeekerHead
      @SeekerHead 2 года назад +23

      @@TheRealHalolad nope, i just watch defyn and jetnoob

    • @YF23BlackWidowll
      @YF23BlackWidowll Год назад

      @@SeekerHead lol

  • @smigoltime
    @smigoltime 2 года назад +100

    13:00 I love how you transfer from commentary, to pissed to malding XDDDD

    • @thatguy7990
      @thatguy7990 Год назад +4

      It's not malding it's stating fax

    • @p_filippouz
      @p_filippouz 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@thatguy7990 nah it's malding.
      The a32 could do nothing. Even if he was to reverse him, a mig19 would easily pull itself out of it.
      The only thing you can do if there's something like 3 people following you and they're in better planes than you, is going to the airfield hoping they greedy enough to get killed by AA

    • @Josanfrr
      @Josanfrr 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@p_filippouz​​⁠​⁠did you not watch the video? its not his problem the a32’s entire team died. he chose to play a shit plane and he died because of that

    • @p_filippouz
      @p_filippouz 5 месяцев назад

      @@Josanfrr ah yes, surely, the destiny of the entire match relied on this single a32, and it's ENTIRELY his fault his team died.
      Oh please.

    • @TeenWithACarrotIDK
      @TeenWithACarrotIDK 4 месяца назад

      @@p_filippouz I think in reality, he isn’t really talking about that guy but about the AA and how they effect player mentality.
      The way I view it, airbase as unnaturally prolong matches that should have ended ages ago and makes the game boring as all hell and serves only to annoy, and the mid-map AA only serve to be random threats that have a random chance at randomly hitting you at the most inconvenient of times. It’s the reality of how AA affects the game sometimes and we have to just accept it.
      However, by itself, this rant is half completely understandable and yeah half malding. I think him and many other people are half way to the right solution but they aren’t quite there yet. The only way I see this problem being fixed is if the air modes get completely and utterly revamped and changed. The mode just isn’t designed well enough to adjust to how modern war thunder is and it’s also boring and lame as hell and overall is just badly designed.

  • @pkt0827
    @pkt0827 2 года назад +374

    defyn going from an average commentary to a mental breakdown in a single video.
    brother I hope the AAA bullshit doesn't take a toll on you too hard :) (still thanks for the daily upload, they're all fun to watch & it teaches you a thing or 2 at the very least)

    • @southweststrangla9591
      @southweststrangla9591 2 года назад +10

      Tbh i'm kinda surprised he didn't quit yet, i did like most good players over years. People are coimng up with alot of ideas of how to fix this issue for like 6 or 7 years by now, and all they do is buff them even more every once in a while. It's legit same shit since like 2015-16, people are abusing shit out of it, you literally cannot have single match without someone camping airfield.
      Most maps with most planes you can't even bleed tickets because you don't have good enough guns nor enough rockets/bombs to destroy pillboxes and medium/heavy tanks in time

    • @TheByQQ
      @TheByQQ Год назад

      ​@@southweststrangla9591 fun fact: your team also has an airfield. It the long straight strip where you can land and rearm

    • @ChannelMiner
      @ChannelMiner Год назад +3

      @@TheByQQ that does not address his point at all

    • @TheByQQ
      @TheByQQ Год назад

      @@ChannelMiner and his point isn't an issue, so we're even.

    • @ChannelMiner
      @ChannelMiner Год назад +3

      @@TheByQQ It 100% is an issue, some games you kill the entire enemy team then one guy is just flying in circles in his airfield.
      The game could be over already, but instead what happens? Instead is that the game goes for an extra 15 minutes while the winning team are forced to ground pound when they already won and the game could be over already.
      Do you think it's ok for people to draw out games they have already lost? They are just wasting everyone's time.

  • @richardn7
    @richardn7 2 года назад +20

    Was 1v1 a guy, we were the last people in the game, I was in a Ki-84 ko and he was in an F2G. We had similar energy, he head-on me and then went back to his airfield even though we were in the middle of the map. As I slowly chased him, an AA in the middle of the map set me on fire in 1 hit and I lost the game. Great stuff

    • @unfazedmc5734
      @unfazedmc5734 2 года назад +9

      Gaijin skill issued you

    • @HandlesAreDumb420
      @HandlesAreDumb420 2 года назад

      If you bought more GE, you wouldn't have died. Bozo moment.

    • @richardn7
      @richardn7 2 года назад +1

      @@HandlesAreDumb420 I laughed thank you

  • @gtifighter
    @gtifighter 2 года назад +68

    THANK YOU! Thanks for bringing up the out of place AA in Air RB and the constant abuse of it by most players. It's really fucking annoying and probably one of the main reasons why I just quit playing RB and went back to Air Arcade because there, at least you get respawns and tiny maps with quick arcady action. In the last Air RB game I played, I was in the F-5C, I killed 2 enemy planes and was running low on ammo and fuel being the last player of my team left alive (one idiot teammate rammed my friend in the beginning of the game) with no enemies anywhere near me so I went to refuel my plane, take off and fly to the center of the map. None of the other 2 enemy players were in the center. Where were they you might ask? both camping at their airfield. flying low altitude circles around the airfield because they knew I would be suicidal to fly in that. So I turned around to get back to the center of the map, the second I turned around they spammed 6 missiles at me and I died. Top tier gameplay with no possibility of counterplay is what's killing the game and I'm sick and tired of it.
    I fucking hate these no-skill cheesy playstyles that are even rewarded by War Thunder...
    It's just like when 2 years ago I was flying the XP-50 in Air RB and the last remaining enemy plane was a bomber with 10 minutes of the game remaining and flying at like 10-11km altitude and I was unable to get even close to 2km below him within that time so he just won, doing nothing but flying away all game and pressing the spacebar a couple times. It just drives me fucking mad.

    • @paulbrown3302
      @paulbrown3302 2 года назад +1

      For real arcade is the only fun air mode, it’s not fun to fly for minutes after having to take off and then just have people all the way at their base all game or just waiting up at 20km and dive with pulse Doppler missiles

    • @rxzxqx6982
      @rxzxqx6982 2 года назад

      arcade is fun, but not with the top tier imo

    • @adrianstachowski9422
      @adrianstachowski9422 2 года назад

      @@rxzxqx6982 sim is good too, but last time I've scored 6 kills and 6 deaths with some time at cap zone, I've lost 100k sl with active premium...

    • @danko8983
      @danko8983 2 года назад +1

      @@adrianstachowski9422 i played sim and did like 23 kills with 5 deaths with a 183k SL profit

    • @nnn4376
      @nnn4376 Год назад +1

      Feel like the ideal solution is to just remove missiles.

  • @asadchatha4184
    @asadchatha4184 2 года назад +28

    This video is incredibly useful, was having trouble grinding the russian tree because of the A10 spam. Much appreciated DEFYN!

  • @skibidabndada6683
    @skibidabndada6683 2 года назад +13

    17:51 "landing is a privilege not a right" is my fav sentence from the vid, got me thinking about the hole thing, great video as always mr defyn#

  • @_Joob
    @_Joob 2 года назад +50

    Mig19’s are probably the most fun you can have in that hell of a BR range (9.3-10.3) except maybe short of the Ariete IMO. One of the best aircraft for clutch situations as well. I find myself playing the mig19s quite a bit.

  • @jacobdonnely2608
    @jacobdonnely2608 2 года назад +39

    It seems like they generally buffed AA as well because a decent portion of the time when I'm above AA in the middle of the map even like 3km up I'll get tagged by it, it makes maps with loads of AA in the center extremely annoying. It used to be unless you were outside of airfield you could generally ignore AA, but I've died to the ground AA trucks a couple times recently. It really feels like they got an accuracy buff for whatever reason.

    • @leonerd91
      @leonerd91 2 года назад +5

      I feel you, got set on fire at 3km alt when playing at 2.3, i dont think AAA should be that good especially on low tier maps when many players dont really climb to alt

  • @Hadgerz
    @Hadgerz 2 года назад +37

    forward base aaa needs to be maybe a couple flak guns and that's it...instead, you get hitscan'd immediately the second you stray within 6km ... and dont even start with the midfield aaa in mozdok, or that small winter map - the one with two opposing trenches of machineguns in the middle. hitscan all fluids empty with red wings and pilot within 5 seconds of hearing those first shells blasting by. Can't get away from it because you're in a prop. That is still somehow a thing to this day.

    • @CrackzTV
      @CrackzTV Год назад

      lmao it was horrid cancer but the only upside to the mid map buff was all the dope environmental fights that get set up by not being in hitscan range. That shit made me put mountains in front of me and the AAA

  • @smigoltime
    @smigoltime 2 года назад +13

    the ending XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
    this has to be one of your most meaningfull videos defy

  • @Et-chan
    @Et-chan 2 года назад +85

    The mig 19S was my favourite plane in the game for the longest time. I kept playing it well into the missile meta and it was still fun for awhile but it’s slowly being beaten into an early grave. It’s a shame because it was so enjoyable to dogfight with. Many pilots don’t expect a fighter to be turnfighting at this tier and it catches a lot of people by surprise. I miss this thing being competitive.

    • @TrixoPLAYS
      @TrixoPLAYS 2 года назад +4

      I was playing MiG-19S not long ago when grinding the German tree. I have managed to get 2.8k/d 86 kills with 31 deaths to be exact after 63 missions. That is coming from just above average air RB player, I'm nowhere near DEFYN skill but I'm not terrible either so I would say this plane is still very competitive. It just has to be played somewhat right.

    • @Acid_Burn9
      @Acid_Burn9 2 года назад +3

      MiG-19 was the king all the way until Draken introduction.

    • @Et-chan
      @Et-chan 2 года назад +2

      @@TrixoPLAYS I'm not saying it's impossible to play or anything, but the style of the plane isn't as enjoyable as it once was. The meta has shifted. And flying the mig 19 feels like a chore rather than a test of skill to me.

    • @gaiofattos2
      @gaiofattos2 2 года назад

      @@TrixoPLAYS I was in the F-104 and I was energy trapped by a mig-19s. It's a little UFO.

    • @jarebare510
      @jarebare510 2 года назад

      I'm doing great even with the MiG 19 in this meta, even 30 g missiles can be dodged from the right aspect so while it may be harder, its engines can still carry it.

  • @moriartyholmes8172
    @moriartyholmes8172 2 года назад +63

    Such a fun plane. Shame it has to deal with such a missile heavy br with no counter measures

    • @Ali80076
      @Ali80076 2 года назад +14

      there has to be a transition BR between missile and countermeasure carrying planes and planes that have tradeoffs in mobility/missiles/countermeasures.
      like the AV8 has decent missiles and counter measures, but its subsonic and as agile as a brick, on the other hand you have mig 19 and j35A with good performance and agility but bad/no missiles and no countermeasures. I see 9.7 as a tradeoff BR, and we have to have one somewhere in the tech tree.

    • @mites7
      @mites7 2 года назад +2

      If it had flares it would be super fun

    • @railgun1
      @railgun1 2 года назад +4

      You see Defyn dodge all these missiles all game long and you still think you really need them? Smh.

    • @lunarcultist6214
      @lunarcultist6214 2 года назад +13

      @@railgun1 Most of the time those were 10-15G missiles that are easy to evade, but if you get uptiered, an AIM-9J/P is not nearly as easy to avoid, let alone an R-60

    • @Akhaaelikian
      @Akhaaelikian 2 года назад +5

      Just fly the chinese Q5A, Basically the same plane but 9.0 with flares and RWR.

  • @mattmielke1389
    @mattmielke1389 2 года назад +7

    I feel like the "bad player doesn't know how to defend himself except with base aa" argument is a good segue into the defensive flying guide

  • @Registered_Simp
    @Registered_Simp 2 года назад +9

    Thank you for covering this plane. So many times I try to tell people it is a monster that requires skill and they don't believe me. Then they're surprised when I'm dancing around 3 people without breaking a sweat. Hopefully it gets some more respect

    • @sheeesssh646
      @sheeesssh646 2 года назад

      Agreed, every week there's a Reddit post on how the Mig 19 is overtiered and has to face missiles...

    • @Registered_Simp
      @Registered_Simp 2 года назад

      @@sheeesssh646 Funny enough, it's one of few aircraft where I'm not very scared of Magics and R-60's. If I'm at combat speeds, those things just don't have the agility to hit me.

    • @sheeesssh646
      @sheeesssh646 2 года назад

      @@Registered_Simp Kinda depends on the altitude tbh

    • @Registered_Simp
      @Registered_Simp 2 года назад

      @@sheeesssh646 Well yeah, go high enough and an Aim-9B is impossible to out-maneuver. That's why these two magical attributes called situational awareness and positioning are so important when you are up high

    • @o3941
      @o3941 2 года назад

      The MiG-19 really is a god tier plane. It will punish lesser skilled pilots, but a good pilot will absolutely excell in this thing.

  • @Villicy
    @Villicy 2 года назад +3

    You are the only link I still have to warthunder.
    In a couple of months it's been 10 years since I started playing. And now the only connection I have with the game is a RUclips channel I watch every minute of.
    Keep doing what you do!

  • @lynwoodm632
    @lynwoodm632 2 года назад +2

    recently found your channel and really glad I did; your play by play explanation is refreshing compared to every other wt creator and your English is impeccable. thanks for all the effort you put into these and your future videos, i appreciate you.

  • @jjbogan3791
    @jjbogan3791 2 года назад +12

    I have to say I completly agree with the airfield strafing and i tend to do it alot without myself being strafed at all i rarely get strafed, if i have atleast ammo and abit of fuel when there's one person left I'd head over to the airfield and likely they'd be there

    • @imperiodosgameplays321
      @imperiodosgameplays321 Год назад

      I love to do airfield stafing with the Mig 19 lol, people don't expect me to do it

  • @nonsense19
    @nonsense19 2 года назад +14

    I agree with the AF camping but not the landing comment. AF AA should be death sentence to an enemy player if someone is on the ground no if ands or buts. Landing isn’t always the guy who can’t manage his ammo or fuel it’s more often the guys carrying the game that HAVE to land because they have used their resources to kill 5 planes. It isn’t fair to these guys that carry their team that a random ass player that got lucky with the AA get an easy kill on the ace player. That isn’t about getting out played that is getting killed by the luck of a glue sniffer

    • @DEFYN
      @DEFYN  2 года назад +11

      I mean't it more in the sense that you shouldn't be able to be going to go land with guys on your ass.
      Sure if you're on the ground the AA can be strong. The game ends in 90 seconds after you touch down anyways.

  • @THECobrabitch
    @THECobrabitch 2 года назад +16

    This is one of my favorite planes in game all mig 19 based aircraft, but my favorite one is the A5C, 10.0 with 2 Majics and an untouchable flight model.

    • @RossTheLoss
      @RossTheLoss 2 года назад +1

      Same. I love flying the mig 19pl.

  • @threemountainsgaming7560
    @threemountainsgaming7560 2 года назад +9

    "energy god" is a very fitting name to this plane :)

  • @Madtrack
    @Madtrack 2 года назад +6

    How is DEFYN this good but also a good teacher. He actually tells you why he's doing something

  • @miked815
    @miked815 2 года назад +6

    That was an absolutely epic rant, I was actually laughing out loud!

  • @Stug187
    @Stug187 2 года назад +6

    i started watching all your videos lately and stopped being a airfield runner. instead i started to try everything to win against the enemy on my own and when it works, its amazing :) keep ip your great work/videos.

    • @Flayrr872
      @Flayrr872 2 года назад +2

      Hey man, congrats on no longer being a runner! I just have a few questions if you wouldn't mind answering.
      How long were you an airfield runner for? Did you run even when your team was losing? Do you regret your choices to run previously?

    • @Metrallaroja
      @Metrallaroja 2 года назад +1

      Congrats!

  • @pek-g8m
    @pek-g8m 2 года назад +5

    The Q-5A is basically a MiG-19 at 9.0, super fun.

    • @lixlivlxxxiv714
      @lixlivlxxxiv714 2 года назад

      The Q-5A also has the second earliest flares after the A-4E. Very interesting plane, but it's probably stiff like the A-5C.

  • @XpunisherX8152
    @XpunisherX8152 2 года назад +22

    If this had countermeasures then it would be untouchable

    • @davidboy45
      @davidboy45 2 года назад +3

      A-5C

    • @H-cranky
      @H-cranky 2 года назад +9

      @@davidboy45 imo A-5C is fucking ugly. Same for the Q-5 and J-6

    • @152mmapfsds
      @152mmapfsds 2 года назад +2

      @@H-cranky how dare you

    • @-theislander-5888
      @-theislander-5888 2 года назад +9

      @@davidboy45 A5C does not have much in common with the mig 19 flight model wise.
      you are misinformed i think.

    • @thatguy7990
      @thatguy7990 2 года назад +2

      @@davidboy45 a5c is a cheap Chinese ripoff of the mig19 they cannot be compared
      In a dogfight the a5c gets stomped

  • @GMan33195
    @GMan33195 2 года назад +2

    Preach about the AF AA brother. Its a cancer on Air RB

  • @GeorgieSVK
    @GeorgieSVK 2 года назад +1

    Love you so much. Agreed on everything that was said in the last parts of the video. So done with AAA

  • @insertcringe2220
    @insertcringe2220 Год назад +2

    Regarding that airfield camping, I commonly have to run, because even if I get three kills, I still loose money if I die. Money, that I can't afford to loose

    • @spasti7026
      @spasti7026 Год назад

      As long as you j out once you are at the airfield everything is fine

    • @spasti7026
      @spasti7026 Год назад +1

      But this guy took off from the airfield just to run back to the airfield 5 minutes later and wasting everyone’s time

  • @Swat_Dennis
    @Swat_Dennis 2 года назад +4

    The thing about airfield campers?
    Look, right? If I know the team is going to die out in like a minute, I don't feel like paying that fucking repaircost if it takes me 20 seconds to go to the airfield, but at least I have the balls to J out and just go onto the next match
    People who stay are fucking annoying, people who do it "because AAA" are fucking sad. I just want to get out of the match too if I go to the airfield

    • @imainhunter
      @imainhunter 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, sometimes people want to end the match quick and ask you to leave

    • @pizza_parker9689
      @pizza_parker9689 2 года назад

      i agree with this thought process

  • @VenomVsTRex
    @VenomVsTRex 2 года назад +5

    I might be wrong, but I honestly think airfield camping would be significantly lessened if repair costs would be either removed or just reduced to a point where players are not punished by the game for a bad match or a streak of bad matches. People's play style is greatly impacted by the fear of repair costs following poor performance.
    If the only cost of playing poorly, trying to learn was the time invested in a match there would be much more incentive to keep trying, to put up an actual fight instead running away to the airfield with your tail between your legs.
    Players kissing the ground to deny a kill is pure scrub bullshit though.

    • @_ZenX_
      @_ZenX_ 2 года назад

      You will see people camp their base in planes that cost next to nothing to repair, you will see it at lower tiers and you will see it at top tier.
      It’s not the repair cost, it’s the instinctive “I am in trouble so I have to run” mechanism kicking in because these players did not start playing the game without camping their airfields, so now, this is all they know how to do.

    • @CRL_One
      @CRL_One 2 года назад

      If its about SL, you can land, repair, refuel and J out.

  • @lithium1135
    @lithium1135 2 года назад

    DEFYN you have taught me a lot in this game, do's and dont's be them: "do this maneuver here" "do that maneuver there" or "dont take out this plane" they are all very important. i will be applying some of this to my su7 gameplay. obviously its not the same plane so it wont line up 100%, but you have taught me a lot, mainly that i need to complete my lineup of the bad planes in this br range. being the demon, lightning, fga9, lansen, cl sabre, k sabre, g91ys, super mystere, yak38, defyn thanks for the content and even putting out videos coincidentally about vehicles im contemplating or having serious skill issues playing. keep looooping my friend.

  • @kingghidorah8106
    @kingghidorah8106 2 года назад +2

    getting teamkilled by second row missile is pretty common among A5C players... Zhōng Xìna moment

  • @HighjeX_
    @HighjeX_ 2 года назад +12

    The AA on this game is a shame

  • @cola-warthunder
    @cola-warthunder 11 месяцев назад

    The aa rant is so good, literal music to my ears, I agree 100%. More please.

  • @jaek__
    @jaek__ 2 года назад +14

    Dude, just, thank you.
    Hearing you be visibly upset about Airfield Andys running to their bubble of immortality, literally, every, single, match, was so fucking cathartic.
    It's CHRONIC and insane just how badly this mentality has stuck around, it creates a feedback loop of bad players or average players never getting good and complaining that they can't get good because good players stomp them even though they actively and subconsciously cuck themselves with their terrible in game habits that make me audibly groan every time I see it.
    No matter the plane, no matter the situation, every time they feel the fight they took has soured they just, run away, I can't stand it man, it prolongs and ruins every game, thinking about it makes me physically angry.
    Anyways, thanks Daddy Defyn, hopefully this stupid mechanic gets changed or fixed or something, I don't know.

  • @stona71
    @stona71 2 года назад +1

    The wisest words about taking responsibility for your own decisions and airfield aaa problem ever said

  • @ThunderNiips
    @ThunderNiips 2 года назад +1

    If I’m in the situation where my team dies and I’m the last one, I will usually J out or land then J out, that’s one of the reasons I run back to the airfield, another option is I say who wants a free kill then end the match. I’m probably the only nice guy in this game.

  • @finaldesert
    @finaldesert 2 года назад +1

    "...Landing is a privilege, not a right..." Defyn, 2022

  • @sully1939
    @sully1939 2 года назад +2

    Everyone just runs back to the airfield is getting ridiculous now XD

  • @davidn7795
    @davidn7795 Год назад

    The salty part at the end was a bit much, but thanks to the introduction to this plane

  • @AJ-happydad
    @AJ-happydad 2 года назад +3

    I gave up this game after the f14 came out. As a USA main I couldn't deal with the mixed battles anymore. Coming from beta to this has been a journey. Your channel still makes me want to come back. I just can't tho

    • @Mai-ek8rf
      @Mai-ek8rf 2 года назад

      Everyones just excited to jet their first 4th gen fighter once the other nations gets theirs it'll all go back to normal

  • @bethelscrubs2549
    @bethelscrubs2549 2 года назад +1

    I remember this thing being a menace for a short time after it got the engine buff. It could out accelerate and out energy everything, and you saw them everywhere. As soon as the missiles became more prominent, it went out of favor.

  • @TomPrickVixen
    @TomPrickVixen 2 года назад +1

    I still say that these last pure dogfighters are over BR-ed! And when it comes the MiG-19S; I'd trade that 3rd gun for more ammo anytime, or even for a radar!

  • @royalbirb275
    @royalbirb275 2 года назад +1

    while i'm still unironically shit at ARB, your videos still give me hope :))
    thanks for the full week of uploads!

  • @wadeperkins714
    @wadeperkins714 2 года назад +2

    I requested this on the discussion post, but I’d really love a guide from you about how to dodge/notch missiles. I have nearly a 5.0 kd with the MiG-15bis, mostly because it rarely sees the caliber of missiles that the MiG-19PT does. When it comes to the 19, I have quite a bit more trouble dealing with missiles, and my kd is barely 1.5. I see the potential when I fly it due to the ridiculous flight performance, but I can’t seem to do as well with it when I need to avoid missiles. Love the vids, congrats on 40k!

    • @easetheweeb
      @easetheweeb 2 года назад

      notching is just flying perpendicular to the person painting you with the radar. to notch you need to be above MAR (minimum abort range: minimum range needed to defeat a missile). MAR at least in my experience is generally farther than 10km. If you are more than 10km out from the missile, simply fly perpendicular to the plane painting you. if you are below MAR it is mostly 50/50 since you cannot notch the missile before splash so you have to maneuver and chaff to attempt to defeat the missile. within 3km the missile will generally not lock in time to account for a defensive maneuver so you are good there.
      note: notching works best against planes that have pulse doppler radars since they rely on relative movement.

  • @mitchr752
    @mitchr752 2 года назад

    You taught me how to not GLOC while playing jets and my play got a 100x better. Keep up the great vids, man!

  • @Unitra2550
    @Unitra2550 2 года назад

    man that aa rant was therapeutic, took the words out of my mouth
    i have tried to play my MiG-19PT again as well as my favorite props like the Ki-84 Ko, F4U-4B, Pyromyrsky and Yak-9U but I always face campers, and god I FUCKING LOVE MY PROP GETTING GUNNED DOWN BY A VULCAN FROM THE 70S STILL IN SERVICE lol

  • @britishcats1
    @britishcats1 2 года назад +3

    AF is so inconsistent, had a match on cliffs of diver in my f89B. Team runs in and all die instantly, turns in to a 9v1. One crashes and I kill 5 of them. But run out of ammo, fly around waiting for a good time to land but the three I was yet to kill all rearmed and refuel while I killed their friends so they all have fuel over me. I am forced to land and a MD450b comes in at like 200~250MPH and base AA doesn’t shoot till after he kill me and flew half way down the runway. Next match get criti early in and have to land, base AA kill two bombers and a random ho299 that was just fly around 4 miles away. It really makes it so more annoying then it already is. When you need it to protect you in bad spot it just turns it’s self off, and when it’s not need it starts trying to steal your kill like a member of JG3.

  • @JJ-eb4tx
    @JJ-eb4tx 2 года назад

    Something about defyns accent mixed with an angry AA-rant makes this video so magical for me

  • @katekarin3838
    @katekarin3838 Месяц назад

    Lmao the M163 on a prop match is so real, I was flying low and had someone on my six that I can't shake and then this random ai M163 instantly reduced him to smithereens. After that I'll always keep myself away from them

  • @stash_of_g
    @stash_of_g 2 года назад +1

    14:50 Preach it bro, im so sick people running away, also mid mad AAA one shotting my engine .

  • @bbburst3585
    @bbburst3585 Год назад +1

    Just from hearing that engine noise I can hear coughing.

  • @orewakaminoikari
    @orewakaminoikari 2 года назад +1

    ADA in ARB at SAM BR ranges don't engage you or engage you with any accuracy at 15k ft, and if you dive from directly above, don't shoot at you at all until you're under 10k. Allows you to get 1 airfield pass or take-off strafe on anyone that used it to camp because the SAMS take too long to fire at you once you zoom away unless you're braindead. Yeah, it's not that fun, but it's still an easy workaround for AF campers, and shows they're still not safe.
    MY issue is the fuckers that still J out constantly on the strip when they have another friendly in the air

  • @danielmostert993
    @danielmostert993 2 года назад +1

    I have not yet played the MiG 19s. But I have played and spaded the MiG 19pt. I am looking forward to this one. Just want to finish with the MiG 21F13 and the F5E before I return to the German air trees.

  • @mockingbird0901
    @mockingbird0901 2 года назад +7

    You seems angrier than usual. Need a break from the game?

    • @DEFYN
      @DEFYN  2 года назад +9

      brother I just got back

    • @mockingbird0901
      @mockingbird0901 2 года назад +2

      @@DEFYN might need a longer break then xD

  • @josippetkovic389
    @josippetkovic389 2 года назад

    That rant hit right on the spot.
    Right there where it should be, much love

  • @sonwig5186
    @sonwig5186 6 месяцев назад +2

    It's all good complaining about people running back to the airfield when you have infinite silver lions. Most people would rather save the repair cost rather than die in an already lost game to 5 enemy fighters which is just not fun for either side anyway.

  • @shanechambers9529
    @shanechambers9529 2 года назад +1

    Surviving is more important than winning. Change my mind...

  • @LankeethePine
    @LankeethePine 2 года назад +2

    my favorite fight in the game is Mig-19 vs Etendard, they are .7 difference but from the Etendard side i love the fight

  • @jimmiarreltherford8464
    @jimmiarreltherford8464 2 года назад +1

    I fucking love this plane. Even when I just test flew it, it felt great. Extremely fast, nice acceleration, refuses to lose speed and nice guns. A wonderful plane

    • @o3941
      @o3941 2 года назад +1

      The MiG-19S is one of the few planes I've flown where I've *accidentally* punched through 10km alt. The plane is energy defined.

  • @FishFlys
    @FishFlys Год назад

    I watch this all the time because it carries brutal aaa honesty

  • @spaceminions
    @spaceminions 10 месяцев назад

    DEFYN should be DARVO from the gaslighting in this video.

  • @boubouiv6239
    @boubouiv6239 2 года назад +1

    two of my favorite plane in 2 days in a row, that's too much for me Defyn I love you

  • @0GTXR
    @0GTXR 2 года назад +1

    Usually what I do against af runners is put myself in a vulnerable state, such as going lower than them, and most of the time they turn right back at you thinking they got this now.

  • @152mmapfsds
    @152mmapfsds 2 года назад +2

    The absolute insane energy and acceleration this thing has is why I play it

  • @vasownedv1548
    @vasownedv1548 Год назад +1

    Having no flares kinda destroys this plane for me

  • @miguel_fidalgo1099
    @miguel_fidalgo1099 2 года назад +2

    This plane is in a limbo, it has amazing performance and you can outperform everything at the br, but you are seeing planes with r60s, magics, and aim9gs though you can deal with those pretty easily, making it so that if you dont get missile spiked from 6 km from a plane that wasnt spotted, you will probably win the match

    • @HighRiskV
      @HighRiskV 2 года назад

      The other option is to sealclub everything else

  • @comeonhomiewemajor
    @comeonhomiewemajor Год назад +1

    14:50 damn what a shot

  • @AverageWTPilot
    @AverageWTPilot Год назад

    "Landing is a privilege, not a right." More people need to hear that.

  • @Liniyka
    @Liniyka 2 года назад +2

    How many years has it been since they made the AAA op? I can't even remember. And throughout these years we constantly begged gaijin to nerf it back at least a little bit. What did we get? Missile AAA for top tier, OP AAA even on secondary airfields and these hilarious vulcans in prop matches. At this point gaijin made it pretty clear that they have no intention of listening, which speaks volumes about their priorities.

    • @sealclub13a79
      @sealclub13a79 2 года назад

      The short term money adrenaline rush?

  • @xanderwusky3001
    @xanderwusky3001 2 года назад +1

    I love the mig19s flew it a lot, did get ace crew on it. Not sure if I bought that or got it from xp but I wouldn't be suprised if it was xp.
    The ace does matter a fair bit. I notice segnificantly less blacking out when I play it. Though ofc it's still a major issue with the plane. Its fairly doable to play around though.

  • @turbo240sex
    @turbo240sex 2 года назад

    Thanks for being an awesome teacher

  • @MausOfTheHouse
    @MausOfTheHouse 2 года назад

    I always admired your dedication to your work. Keep it up and you'll hit 100K in no time.

  • @ApokalyptikNM
    @ApokalyptikNM Год назад

    I was in a match a few weeks ago and me and this f2g started to dogfight and he got so nervous he ran back to the airfield.. the best part about this I was in the AR-234B, now I don't play bombers that often anymore but I can give room to the AR-234B as it was the first reconnaissance jet in 1944.. I have took it in Sim a few times and after seeing the cockpit view.. in my opinion it has the best cockpit in the game

  • @calimdonmorgul7206
    @calimdonmorgul7206 2 года назад +1

    As long as people actually land and leave that should be fine

  • @akinori1505
    @akinori1505 2 года назад

    what an incredible coincidence, I bought it recently and I really liked this plane, and you make a video about it, cool

  • @finn_mcmissile
    @finn_mcmissile 2 года назад +14

    The Harsh Truth of MiG19: it is not good anymore vs 9.7+. From the atrocious flight model with no rudder and slow full imput value of the controls, to the brutally shittified NR30 belts with average 740m/s velocity with instant drag.

    • @turbonut1
      @turbonut1 2 года назад +2

      Agree so much king. Especially since you get outran by everything and you have terrible energy retention with no flares.

    • @kwazzy5859
      @kwazzy5859 2 года назад +2

      @@turbonut1 lmao what? Bad energy retention? Are u on crack?

    • @turbonut1
      @turbonut1 2 года назад +1

      Plane blows don’t @ me defyn sucks trash player 🥱

  • @o3941
    @o3941 2 года назад

    I slept on this plane for so long and I feel bad about it. I recently started flying this thing and I fucking love it. It turns, it retains energy, it accelerates like a bat out of hell. I dont really fear anything when I'm flying this plane except for packetloss. The blacking out isn't a huge bother for me as even when blacked out the plane retains so much maneuverability that it's quickly become one of my loves. Even a full uptier doesnt bother me too badly.
    My only complaint its it seems really inconsistent with regard to snapping a wing off.
    And as for the people running toward their airfield, youre not wrong about it. The closest I come to "abusing" it is if I'm the last plane up and the enemy has more than 3, I'll just RTB and J out. If I have no reasonable hope of winning, why should I let myself be shot down and pay the asinine repaircosts some of these planes have? Like, why the fuck does my 1952 MiG-15bis cost almost twice as a fucking 1974 F-14?

  • @TheLandstrider
    @TheLandstrider 2 года назад

    Ive been struggling with the mig19
    This was very helpful
    The guns are the last obstacle for me

  • @peterdavies2058
    @peterdavies2058 2 года назад

    I actually love the camper rants.

  • @HalIOfFamer
    @HalIOfFamer Год назад

    The problem with those planes that face unfair opponents is that you prey on bad players. I face this problem now in my Lim5p. In an uptier, there is nothing you can do to a good player, but you can hunt the bad ones or 3rd party average ones. We really need that br decompress, it feels like 50% of jets are just unplayable rn.

  • @Jan191
    @Jan191 2 года назад

    A small tip: Because of how good the flight performance is, you can afford to take out a small amount of the rockets and use them as flares. It works for me.

  • @LaminarTurbulence
    @LaminarTurbulence 2 года назад

    I also love those players that try to missile the guy in front of you, through you.

  • @CecilioSprayetti
    @CecilioSprayetti 2 года назад +4

    I remember this was my first "top tier" jet I ever got and man I absolutely despised it. It just felt like a bus that doesn't respond to your inputs but now a few years later its one of my favorites. Feels great to just win every single 1v1 you get into and when its fully down tiered you can just turn your brain off and win. Reminds me of the Yak-30 which is kinda the same

    • @bigface1352
      @bigface1352 2 года назад

      I like the Yak-30 mainly because the missiles. But the mig-19 has such an awkward rudder and roll, it just makes it extremely difficult to control in a 1v1.

  • @jamesplatt3101
    @jamesplatt3101 2 года назад +1

    Yeah DEFYN i agree if you aren’t playing the game what’s the point. I’m the kind of person who re-engages with an sm 79 because it has 1 offensive weapon lol

  • @Jaeger_89
    @Jaeger_89 2 года назад +1

    Well well well, I've been playing this thing right all along. I think its main problem is getting third partied by missiles. Other than that, the name "Energy God" is quite fitting...

  • @Anastunsia
    @Anastunsia 2 года назад

    AA Fix with 3 rules
    AA Will not fire if an ally to the AA is dogfighting in nearby airspace, "Its too risky you might shoot down your own aircraft"
    AA Will fire if an allied aircraft is flying a predictable path while the enemy is tailing them (player has not deflected control surfaces past x % in last x seconds) - Or a more simple option, AA will not fire within a cone surrounding a friendly aircraft to avoid friendly fire incidents, a cone meaning the further from the AA said aircraft is the wider the no-fire zone is.
    AA Will fire if there is an allied aircraft on the runway, But if that aircraft does not leave the runway within, say 5 Minutes, the AA will no longer fire upon enemy targets.

  • @iedsurvivor4665
    @iedsurvivor4665 2 года назад

    The AA camping situation from my experience has been a mix of frustration and as you said DEFYN predictable, I mostly play US top-tier air ( Kris_pe_bacon* if you feel the need for a stat check). While there aren't many occasions where the last enemy player runs to the airfield, the times it happens procced with a low alt chase through AA fire and eventually resulting in the enemy player crashing into the ground. You've hit the nail on the head when it comes to the point that AA should not dictate the game, thankfully Gaijin's added feature of ticket deduction makes the AF camping a bit more bearable. Geat Video.

  • @miller9362
    @miller9362 2 года назад

    Defyn is a legend for this, waking up every morning to his videos to start my day

  • @JoshuaBFishing
    @JoshuaBFishing 2 года назад +1

    Obviously you weren't flying the Mig19 because you didn't eat 6 missiles in the first 30 seconds of your initial engagement.

  • @michaelw6277
    @michaelw6277 2 года назад +1

    If I’m the last person on my team and I see you I’m running to my airfield too, I’m not going to just give you a free kill. That said in those situations where I know I can’t win I land and leave the aircraft so the match can end so I can move on.

  • @Metrallaroja
    @Metrallaroja 2 года назад +1

    Another excelent AAA rant, keep them up! 👍

  • @kxng_xf_sxrrxw5222
    @kxng_xf_sxrrxw5222 6 месяцев назад

    2:44 YO THAT F4 fucking hauling goddam

  • @ushikiii
    @ushikiii 2 года назад

    That rant in the end. Made be feel better, I feel the same way.