Somebody make a comment about how this couldn't be 10.3 because it can't hold a candle to the F5C. (Obviously, with no flares this can't actually be 10.3 that's why its not). They deleted the comment, maybe after watching me dogfight an F5C in this video, but it's a relatively valid point. The F5C is absolutely one of your worst enemies because it is a very strong plane AT 10.3. However, The F5C missiles are simple to dodge and you DO have advantages against it. A rate fight will result in your death, but you will out-energy an F5C in the vertical and the slower you get the greater this advantage will become (Hence the F5C in this video trying to escape after we get to low speeds).
I encounter F5Cs regularly with my mig 23 and they even at that tier hold their own, not that well of course but regardless. Well played man beautiful video!
the problem is that the f-5c is more suited for clustered battles because it's much more responsive than MiG19 thus easier to handle (and also easier to energy trap) but MiG19 has too much performance for 9.3 and too little resources to survive at 10.3 where it's performance matches the competence. If Gaijin decided that the Swift F7 has guns (it doesn't irl) and MiG21 SMT has flares (it didn't irl) then gaijin should give MiG19S and PT beam riding missiles (they did have them irl) as well as a flare pod (Pakistani Mig19 with Aim9Ps and flare blisters on wing roots). MiG19 with flares and good missiles at 10.3 would be extremely enjoyable. also you out rate both F-5C and E. you In fact have to go for a flat rate because the f-5c will have more nose authority than you at slow speed, so better bleed it's speed forcing it to lag when flat than risking facing a skilled player that baits you into a scissor when you are trying to loop vertically.
@@kingghidorah8106 I certainly don't get games like this often but was super proud of it, thanks man. Basically agree with what you said about the F5. There are reasons the MiG-19 isn't actually 10.3 of course. It's just inaccurate to say there's *nothing* you can do against an F5.
@@studido i think I didn't say _theres nothing you can do against F-5_ in fact I added the point that you actually out rate both models. Everytime I play I 1v1 MiG19 vs F-5E against Two of the best Tiger E duelists and handle their ass until I get slower than 780 IAS.
Absolutely love this plane, one of my personal favorites. Moving on to the MiG 21 from this was quite the challenge because they are very different in the playstyle. Well Played :).
@Surkhab Singh I actually have a video recorded the other day of the SMT I'll upload soon, a very strong and fun plane. WAY better than the F13 I refuse to fly that thing lol. R3Rs are super fun.
@@studido before HE nerf all i need 2hits or even 1 if lucky to kill any jet with f13 gun now u forced to take 30min fuel with bad gun its not worth anymore compare to mig19pt
Mig19 is my all time best plane, I used to upriver it 11.7 when the f14 came out almost aced against them, and did the same when they added the f16. Absolutely godly if you can get rocket flares timed right.
That was awesome! Mig-19 is one of the most underestimated planes at its tier, always great to see its energy retention being used to its full potential
Very impressive! When I was doing the MiG 15 grind I had a blast, since you were totally untouchable by many planes, and working together with another MiG or two to energy drain Sabres was a dream. Sadly they added the Yak-38 and the Harrier right around the time I was finishing up and they felt almost unplayable afterwards, so I never got much enjoyment out of the MiG 19. A real shame considering the 19 is such a beautiful machine.
That was a rly good game and lowkey, a gr8 tutorial. I was looking for a good gameplay of the farmer post GLOC patch and just found it. Gr8 game, dude!
The F100 is a flying brick like my F3H-2 no worries man you got this just look for options and take the fights you think you can, stay at a br long enough and you'll learn what you can and can't fight makes it a lot easier.
visually, one of my favorite aircraft. in game it is extremely underrated due to the lack of flares and underwing armaments. it's a dogfighter, plain and simple.
You need 1 million views, hands down. your quality is AMAZING, you always go into detail. You never miss the Disadvantages and you always just tell straight truth.
And now look at chinese Q-5 which is the same plane (for the most part) but with flares and at 9.0. Guns are not as good as soviet 30mms but it doesn't really matter when you have so many advantages over your potential opponents.
Same with the A-5C. Feels kinda broken at its BR, especially against F-5Cs. Vertical fights are bonkers with that thing, it barely loses energy. Obviously the only real threat to the A-5C is the MiG-19
@@skytron22 I mean yeah it's real bonkers. Getting MiG-19 with flares and Magics at such low br is almost a crime. And even MiG-19 looses to you if he makes a single mistake just because you can shove 35G missile in his bun. You get balanced by playing in the same team with soviets though. And if there is F-5E in the area then he will just eat you in a couple of turns. But yep it really is one of the best planes at this br bracket.
I have the Chinese J-6A, and it was a blast playing it, especially since it gets APHE rounds that generally one-shot everything. I usually climb up high (since usually there are only MiG-21s and F-104s up there, and both are relatively simple to avoid unless you face R-60s) so I can pick and choose my fights better (especially for avoiding A-10s or Su-25s). Dropped a 6-kill game with it once, and basically researched the J-7E with just the J-6A.
the spotting shit also gives me a headache, you SEE HIM.. yet game is like NOOOOOPPPEEEE. This looks really fun though, going to give it a try thanks! Playing the Mig29 all day kind numbs the brain at top tier
What boggles my mind most, is how ineffective that F5C was. That he didn't flare that missile, that he had apparently shot all his missiles in that furball (even if the 9E is very easy to dodge and by far the most useless missile at 10.3...) Congrats and very well managed regardless; going 1V7 is a pretty amazing feat under any circumstance, but in an uptier it's ridiculous. MiG19 is one of those planes that you just have to respect when you face it, even when it's a full BR underneath you.
@@studido Ahah thought it was me being trash but by checking BRs nowadays Mig19PT just face uptier jets. Gaijin need to change this BS as soon as possible, it's just unplayable.
@yoshimitsu1260 Aside from all aspect missiles its still a total monster, but yeah there are significantly more all aspect missile carriers now than when I recorded this this
A5C is more like 9.3 (9.0 actually) frame dragged to 10.3, also i think Q5 family have a little difference in wing model, thus make it perform worse compared to pure mig 19 frame nice video anyways! that dogfight was so satisfying :)
Im struggling with MiG-19 cause when I do try to do this they toss me a rear aspect missile while im climbing and I cant dodge it (or get third partied)
A fellow F3H-2 enjoyer once asked me how to fight a MiG-19 and I simply said "Don't you will die" this is why I said that because the MiG in a skilled person's hands (like many aircraft) is truly unfair. I love the video and huge GGs on the win I could never get those cannons to hit anything if my life depended on them. Also I would like to ask for any tips for gunfights in jets, I've noticed that it is a fair bit harder to hit anything I assume it's because you just have to lead more but I always end up under leading. Any tips?
Temporarily train yourself to genuinely start shooting when your brain thinks "this is WAY too much lead", and fire for 3x longer than you would normally. You will go through way more ammo, this is not efficient, but you will hit things. Ideally after due time you start to figure out the proper lead and can be more precise. I'd also recommend essentially never trying to fire beyond 0.6k until you have a feel for it
when you cant spot an enemy in the area, try to lock him on your radar ! Also the main threat to the MiG 19 isn't a 10.3, it's the 9.3 Ayit with 2 Aim9D and 2 shafirs. The Ayit is extremely nimble with a great acceleration. You can't escape the Aim 9D on a upward spiral, the Ayit just needs to point its nose at you even beyond 4km and that's it. Bit unfair.
Nice flying, good trigger control, you knew which targets to pick and when you had to break off the spiral and let your performance do the work at high altitude. The last 3 could have easily won it if they weren't all greedy enough to go into the spiral with you, 1 going and breaking off with enough speed to evade while trying to keep you close enough to get you off the others while they climbed would have ruined your day, especially if one of the other 2 helped cover the one chasing you. But they all perfectly played into the mig-19's strength instead :p.
Every night before i go to bed, I pray to RnJesus and the snail, thanking them for giving me the talisman on my german mig 19. it doesnt have the missles like the russian one but it gets a third gun and it still holds its own against anything you throw at it.
Hey great video! Also, what is your opinion on the German Mig 19? I have it but don’t like to use it because of the lack of missiles and fighting all aspect 30g missiles. (oh and the repair cost)
@@studido thank yes raid fight exactly how you did to f3 is how deal f5 make suere you separate them frome team deal with them first and dome rest if them easy
So you mean to tell me all I got to do is avoid all aspect missiles and upward spiral everybody? I love this plane but man I suck. Constantly uptiered to 10.3 is a pain.
You can actually give A-10, SU-25K, A-6E TRAM or basically any plane that has incredibly unfair all aspect missiles a head on, just warm up a missile and shoot it at theirs, 8/10 times it acts as flares (Bonus points if your missile goes on and kills them)
Those T-2's could have been a real problem if they coordinated and flew their aircraft properly. T-2 may not have the greatest dogfight performance, but it has the AOA and thrust to stick on your ass for a few turns. If one did that while the other kept some speed and re-positioned, that could have been a very short fight. Aside from that, the Mig-19 is definitely a total powerhouse even in an uptier. I've had plenty of scenarios similar to this one where I was just dancing around 3-4 people at once picking them off one by one as opportunity allowed. Terrifying plane if flown right
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Somebody make a comment about how this couldn't be 10.3 because it can't hold a candle to the F5C. (Obviously, with no flares this can't actually be 10.3 that's why its not). They deleted the comment, maybe after watching me dogfight an F5C in this video, but it's a relatively valid point. The F5C is absolutely one of your worst enemies because it is a very strong plane AT 10.3. However, The F5C missiles are simple to dodge and you DO have advantages against it. A rate fight will result in your death, but you will out-energy an F5C in the vertical and the slower you get the greater this advantage will become (Hence the F5C in this video trying to escape after we get to low speeds).
I encounter F5Cs regularly with my mig 23 and they even at that tier hold their own, not that well of course but regardless. Well played man beautiful video!
the problem is that the f-5c is more suited for clustered battles because it's much more responsive than MiG19 thus easier to handle (and also easier to energy trap) but MiG19 has too much performance for 9.3 and too little resources to survive at 10.3 where it's performance matches the competence. If Gaijin decided that the Swift F7 has guns (it doesn't irl) and MiG21 SMT has flares (it didn't irl) then gaijin should give MiG19S and PT beam riding missiles (they did have them irl) as well as a flare pod (Pakistani Mig19 with Aim9Ps and flare blisters on wing roots). MiG19 with flares and good missiles at 10.3 would be extremely enjoyable.
also you out rate both F-5C and E. you In fact have to go for a flat rate because the f-5c will have more nose authority than you at slow speed, so better bleed it's speed forcing it to lag when flat than risking facing a skilled player that baits you into a scissor when you are trying to loop vertically.
also holy fuckin shit 1v7, this is Defyn levels of badassery. GF.
@@kingghidorah8106 I certainly don't get games like this often but was super proud of it, thanks man. Basically agree with what you said about the F5. There are reasons the MiG-19 isn't actually 10.3 of course. It's just inaccurate to say there's *nothing* you can do against an F5.
@@studido i think I didn't say _theres nothing you can do against F-5_ in fact I added the point that you actually out rate both models. Everytime I play I 1v1 MiG19 vs F-5E against Two of the best Tiger E duelists and handle their ass until I get slower than 780 IAS.
The MiG-19 has absolutely insane performance for its time period. 0.85 TWR in 1955.
1955???? 😱 It went from Me262 to this freaking UFO in just 10 years???
the T-2 Early guy definitely wasnt using AIM-9J for some reason lmao
that was just plain crazy! impressive battle man!
haha thanks man. Certainly not my average game, was a perfect storm to show off the MiG-19 strengths.
i think you mean "plane" crazy XD
@@lacrossehammy124roblox reference?!?
Absolutely love this plane, one of my personal favorites. Moving on to the MiG 21 from this was quite the challenge because they are very different in the playstyle. Well Played :).
Yeah, totally different playstyle! The MiG21-SMT is wonderful to fly in a different way though, really enjoyed using it grinding for the 29
@studido Just got it a day ago. Been killing so many people with the head on R3Rs. Lmao, very fun plane. Much more fun than the MiG21 F-13.
@Surkhab Singh I actually have a video recorded the other day of the SMT I'll upload soon, a very strong and fun plane. WAY better than the F13 I refuse to fly that thing lol. R3Rs are super fun.
@@studido before HE nerf all i need 2hits or even 1 if lucky to kill any jet with f13 gun now u forced to take 30min fuel with bad gun its not worth anymore compare to mig19pt
jesus christ they were SO BAD XDDD
Nice flying, literally the only person who wasn't an idiot in that battle
Smigol is in literally every, small underrated WT video.
Mig19 is my all time best plane, I used to upriver it 11.7 when the f14 came out almost aced against them, and did the same when they added the f16. Absolutely godly if you can get rocket flares timed right.
That was awesome! Mig-19 is one of the most underestimated planes at its tier, always great to see its energy retention being used to its full potential
Excellent... very Excellent. You understand Mig-19 better than yourself!
Getting a good game is great.
Getting a good game and recording it hits different.
Good stuff
Very impressive! When I was doing the MiG 15 grind I had a blast, since you were totally untouchable by many planes, and working together with another MiG or two to energy drain Sabres was a dream. Sadly they added the Yak-38 and the Harrier right around the time I was finishing up and they felt almost unplayable afterwards, so I never got much enjoyment out of the MiG 19. A real shame considering the 19 is such a beautiful machine.
I fly the mig15bis today and still have a good time
That was a rly good game and lowkey, a gr8 tutorial. I was looking for a good gameplay of the farmer post GLOC patch and just found it. Gr8 game, dude!
awesome game man, I always hate to face 19s and 21s in my F100
The F100, unfortunately, is a massive struggle bus. Not your fault and doesn't stand a chance against either of those haha
The F100 is a flying brick like my F3H-2 no worries man you got this just look for options and take the fights you think you can, stay at a br long enough and you'll learn what you can and can't fight makes it a lot easier.
"Provided you don't take an all-aspect missile to the face"... I felt that
visually, one of my favorite aircraft. in game it is extremely underrated due to the lack of flares and underwing armaments. it's a dogfighter, plain and simple.
I play the MiG 19 S. Doesn’t get missiles. I take 2 rocket pods as flares. Works wonders
Shape of wings is just beautiful
You need 1 million views, hands down. your quality is AMAZING, you always go into detail. You never miss the Disadvantages and you always just tell straight truth.
Youre too kind man thank u. Hopefully ill make some more commentaries soon
I was able to win a 1v7 in the mig 29 and that felf amazing so winning in the 19 has to be the best feeling in war thunder
And now look at chinese Q-5 which is the same plane (for the most part) but with flares and at 9.0.
Guns are not as good as soviet 30mms but it doesn't really matter when you have so many advantages over your potential opponents.
Very true, I don't have the chinese tree but that thing sounds like it would be a beast as well
J-6 is the same plane no? Q5 is the strike version
@@gamermiles20 Yeah Q5 is the strike variant but it gets 2 23 mm guns instead of the NR30s.
Same with the A-5C. Feels kinda broken at its BR, especially against F-5Cs. Vertical fights are bonkers with that thing, it barely loses energy. Obviously the only real threat to the A-5C is the MiG-19
@@skytron22 I mean yeah it's real bonkers. Getting MiG-19 with flares and Magics at such low br is almost a crime.
And even MiG-19 looses to you if he makes a single mistake just because you can shove 35G missile in his bun.
You get balanced by playing in the same team with soviets though. And if there is F-5E in the area then he will just eat you in a couple of turns.
But yep it really is one of the best planes at this br bracket.
I have the Chinese J-6A, and it was a blast playing it, especially since it gets APHE rounds that generally one-shot everything. I usually climb up high (since usually there are only MiG-21s and F-104s up there, and both are relatively simple to avoid unless you face R-60s) so I can pick and choose my fights better (especially for avoiding A-10s or Su-25s). Dropped a 6-kill game with it once, and basically researched the J-7E with just the J-6A.
seems really simple when watching someone else do it, salute to you sir!
Mainly play ground battles but this made me want to start grinding for a jet. No exoerience with them so this should be useful in the future. Thanks!
Wowsers, the word "badass" doesn't quite measure up to that sortie; well done!
i wish the german mig 19 had missiles, i dont wanna grind the whole russian tree
Wow this was awesome to watch really nice flying
At the end homie started to sound like Anakin after going to save his mom. "I killed them all"
And this video just shows why i want the Mig-19 also love your vids💖
Thanks for sharing. Twas pleasure to watch.
10/10 never gave up!
what I find interesting is that he only made 7 kills with visibly beginner players, and he had the audacity to say that he used 100% of mig19 Lol
Yup... looked like noob players to me.
the spotting shit also gives me a headache, you SEE HIM.. yet game is like NOOOOOPPPEEEE. This looks really fun though, going to give it a try thanks! Playing the Mig29 all day kind numbs the brain at top tier
What boggles my mind most, is how ineffective that F5C was. That he didn't flare that missile, that he had apparently shot all his missiles in that furball (even if the 9E is very easy to dodge and by far the most useless missile at 10.3...)
Congrats and very well managed regardless; going 1V7 is a pretty amazing feat under any circumstance, but in an uptier it's ridiculous.
MiG19 is one of those planes that you just have to respect when you face it, even when it's a full BR underneath you.
Because he was a noob
Very good game, congratulations, it was impressive
Holy F dude!! That was crazy.
Fantastic flying bro
this video is a masterpiece
Appreciate it man, wish I got more games like this 😂
Mig 19 engine definitely does sound like an air fryer. Such a weird sound i kind of don’t like it. Such a fun plane to fly though
respect from me., very nice play
Bro casually going super Saiyan in the MiG
beautiful clutch my guy
Good video. You should show the rewards screen
as a fellow mig19 player i wish i could utilise the plane like you just did, that was incredible. great aim too
Thanks man! One of my favorite jets. Super sad these days it would be near impossible to recreate with all the all aspect missile carriers
@@studido Ahah thought it was me being trash but by checking BRs nowadays Mig19PT just face uptier jets.
Gaijin need to change this BS as soon as possible, it's just unplayable.
@yoshimitsu1260 Aside from all aspect missiles its still a total monster, but yeah there are significantly more all aspect missile carriers now than when I recorded this this
Amazing, learned a lot from this video
A5C is more like 9.3 (9.0 actually) frame dragged to 10.3, also i think Q5 family have a little difference in wing model, thus make it perform worse compared to pure mig 19 frame
nice video anyways! that dogfight was so satisfying :)
no q5 is more or less equal to mig19
Yeah, A5C gets dragged up to 10.3 because of the flares and magics. Bit different than the MiG-19 in terms of performance.
@@ghostslider6092 less maneuverable mig 19, q5 can't turn as good as mig 19, but if you don't mind about that, then it's fine
Beautiful
The german Mig-19S is my favourite out of the mig19s. Marginally better power to weight and THREE NR-30s makes it absolutely fucking lethal.
Im struggling with MiG-19 cause when I do try to do this they toss me a rear aspect missile while im climbing and I cant dodge it (or get third partied)
Great showcase of the plane's strengths and exploiting the opponents' weaknesses.
bro stood up and fukin choose violence DD
literally clapped while eating my dinner. good shit bruv
amazing work! keep it up
awesome. well played.
very nicely done
Did this in the J-7E once, against 12.0 planes too lol, 7 kills 2 assists, iirc I killed every single 12.0 plane their team had too :D
the best mig show ever, better than J-7II
MASTERCLASS!!
A fellow F3H-2 enjoyer once asked me how to fight a MiG-19 and I simply said "Don't you will die" this is why I said that because the MiG in a skilled person's hands (like many aircraft) is truly unfair. I love the video and huge GGs on the win I could never get those cannons to hit anything if my life depended on them. Also I would like to ask for any tips for gunfights in jets, I've noticed that it is a fair bit harder to hit anything I assume it's because you just have to lead more but I always end up under leading. Any tips?
Temporarily train yourself to genuinely start shooting when your brain thinks "this is WAY too much lead", and fire for 3x longer than you would normally. You will go through way more ammo, this is not efficient, but you will hit things. Ideally after due time you start to figure out the proper lead and can be more precise. I'd also recommend essentially never trying to fire beyond 0.6k until you have a feel for it
when you cant spot an enemy in the area, try to lock him on your radar ! Also the main threat to the MiG 19 isn't a 10.3, it's the 9.3 Ayit with 2 Aim9D and 2 shafirs. The Ayit is extremely nimble with a great acceleration. You can't escape the Aim 9D on a upward spiral, the Ayit just needs to point its nose at you even beyond 4km and that's it. Bit unfair.
A-10, A-6E, and Su-25 do the same thing too. The Su-25 at least has to close more distance though.
Gotta give us a look at the rewards for that
bro activated a -500% booster
When no one's thinks you can, just do it lol
What a lot of people dont know is the mig19 is faster and has better energy retention than the phantoms F4Cs and can donk on those F5Cs
GLORIOUS
I hate the Mig-19 not because it's crap but because as a prop main, I just can't aim the guns good enough😂
Impressive match😉
Nice flying, good trigger control, you knew which targets to pick and when you had to break off the spiral and let your performance do the work at high altitude.
The last 3 could have easily won it if they weren't all greedy enough to go into the spiral with you, 1 going and breaking off with enough speed to evade while trying to keep you close enough to get you off the others while they climbed would have ruined your day, especially if one of the other 2 helped cover the one chasing you. But they all perfectly played into the mig-19's strength instead :p.
great video
That clutch tho
Every night before i go to bed, I pray to RnJesus and the snail, thanking them for giving me the talisman on my german mig 19. it doesnt have the missles like the russian one but it gets a third gun and it still holds its own against anything you throw at it.
Well played!
MiG-19 is one of the strongest dogfighters in the game, even up against 12.0s it's not bad (Missile only)
12:13
Anakin skywalker moment
Repair costs are not a problem to me, because I earn a lot too. At my top, I had over 600 million Silver Lions.
Impressive !
nicely done gg
Good job! you get 2,500 rp and 10k silver lions for your hard work!
Does any other airframe even have energy retention the way this thing does?
Heck yea 👍
When your spiralling up away from them do you just your keyboard to control the plane or mouse and what have you blinded for free look ?
Yeah ,keyboard hot key are ncessary
Nice game
well that was a small game... what servers at what time are you playing....
Epic!
Hey great video! Also, what is your opinion on the German Mig 19? I have it but don’t like to use it because of the lack of missiles and fighting all aspect 30g missiles. (oh and the repair cost)
I personally find the missiles super useful. Get plenty of kills and can use them to flare front aspect missiles.
nice play bro xd
Is there any difference in the energy retention in the German mig-19 or can you play it just the same
They're the same
How can you play with camera shake on?
Mice video what is you mic setup?how the edit voice in top of the video?
I have a blue snowball and use sony vegas for edits
@@studido thank yes raid fight exactly how you did to f3 is how deal f5 make suere you separate them frome team deal with them first and dome rest if them easy
Bro why didint that f 5c launch a missle mig 19 doesn’t have flares
how much rp and sl was that????
Worth the watch, dang, lol!!!
funny how this and the mig21 are COMPLETE opposite’s. 3 min upward spiral vs pulling one circle then dipping if u miss, very different oddly
Let this guy cook
So you mean to tell me all I got to do is avoid all aspect missiles and upward spiral everybody? I love this plane but man I suck. Constantly uptiered to 10.3 is a pain.
Wow i always thought it was over br’d but clearly its not
if only the german mig19 had missiles
Yo what daaaaa heeeeeeeelll! Omg ain't no waiaiay.
Yeah, the Mig-19 has bonkers thrust to weight and is good at turning.
You where lucky to not have a danger dorito on the enemy team though. ;)
Insane game
Mig19 sounds like my vaccume
The german one is pure suffering tho. Guns only.
You can actually give A-10, SU-25K, A-6E TRAM or basically any plane that has incredibly unfair all aspect missiles a head on, just warm up a missile and shoot it at theirs, 8/10 times it acts as flares
(Bonus points if your missile goes on and kills them)
Bonus points when you just eat the all aspect and die
Those T-2's could have been a real problem if they coordinated and flew their aircraft properly. T-2 may not have the greatest dogfight performance, but it has the AOA and thrust to stick on your ass for a few turns. If one did that while the other kept some speed and re-positioned, that could have been a very short fight. Aside from that, the Mig-19 is definitely a total powerhouse even in an uptier. I've had plenty of scenarios similar to this one where I was just dancing around 3-4 people at once picking them off one by one as opportunity allowed. Terrifying plane if flown right