@@xueroger678 ye but your wings will :) also using combat flaps above 900-1000 kph is actually detrimental, it will lock up the plane completely and you will at most only be able to pull 1-2Gs, it's pretty funny. The only way to get out of it is to either pull the flaps back in or start rolling (not a great idea).
Do you think its still unfinished Defyn? I saw some other CC’s comment that the Leo 2AV isnt finished yet maybe its the same for this, if not I was planning on selling this thing anyway…
11:57 lol that me. I immediately ripped my wings after this. My stream chat pointed out you were in the game. Plane seems to be a bit less prone to ripping with boosters removed, still kinda meh tho.
Always love it when defyn uploads as he does great gameplay and tutorial videos! Though, I’ve heard the f4d is pretty bad. Maybe this video will change my mind, or answer my questions.
So it has wing mounted guns with no ammo, wing tanks for "missiles", isnt a prem, fights A-5Cs and F-5Cs, cant turn whatsoever above 900kph, is liable to explode at any point between 700 and 900kph at minimum, holds energy as well as a cougar with a busted wing root, but has an afterburner and can technically break mach 1 unlike the F-11. Sounds like a nice 30 gaijin to me. From the second I saw this plane I called it an american Javelin, I think I might have insulted the Javelin by comparing it to whatever this flying confusion is.
It was one of the best interceptors of its day when it was introduced. It set numerous time-to-climb, speed and altitude records that wouldn't be broken for ten years. Gaijin screwed another plane's FM. Not surprised.
Thank you Defyn, i have returned to your content and resubbed too. This is the kinda content i like from you. Giving us the needed info, specs, how to use the plane and then your own opinion. This thing is carbage reward tho, from the amount of grinding needed. Also stupid that they removed low tier fun tier vehicles :( Anyway, keep it up!
The plane is now playable and actually pretty decent. The low tier performance is awesome and with the engine you can get speed again pretty quick too.
Should be very strong in sim if it sits at 9.3. Since EC6 caps at 9.3 you will be fighting korean era jets while flying something with radar, missiles and afterburner. This was the case with the demon until they bumped it to 9.7.
With boosters, you can pull pitch freely as long as you do not roll between 700-900 km/h IAS. You rip if you pull with combat flaps at 600-900 km/h IAS even without rolling. If you consider these limitations, you can get a lot of work done for the team. People love to pitch up after you even if they can never catch up.
Man they could make this thing so worth it if it had Sparrows but its likely not historical. Real shame since even a basic sparrow would make it incredibly cool as an event support fighter. No need to take hard turns and rip. Real bummer. Also thanks for the video DEFYN!
the Sparrow II would be very cool indeed, but that would most likely put this thing at 9.7 (or even worse, 10.0), depends on how good the missile would be in game. At that BR however, only being able to pull 9Gs at 1000 kph will get you killed so fast.
Sometimes, just sometimes I am glad that I stopped giving a shit about Gaijins QUALITY CONTROL not existing at all. Imagine, spending your heart, soul, wallet etc on this game just to receive high quality frustration pressed into a golden middle finger pointing straight at you ... oh War Thunder ^^
"The War Thunder experience" - I ignored the whole summer event this time and couldn't be happier. SPG is crap, too, and let's just not talk about everything Navy.
This reminds me of when I returned to the CL13A half a year ago after a very long time. You touch your mouse above 800kmh and your wings desintegrate to spare parts.
A friend of mine who doesn't play planes a lot wanted me to grind the event for this thing. Tried, gave up after one star, I wasn't feeling like playing for an event, even if I got a bit of cash for it. In hindsight, best decision ever. Save myself time and the guy saved money.
Finally gaijin let’s us do an easy grind instead of getting stars by doing stupid challenges and the vehicle turns out to be hot dog water. Huge disappointment.
Fun thing is that this is how most planes should behave. Most modern planes have a +9/-2 G limit (and probably even a lower "safe to fly limit"), while WW2 era planes are more around 7G. Not even close to the 12+ G you can pull on some airplanes.
notice how at 4:12 the missile kinda goes to the side a bit suggesting your plane is drifting, maybe that could cause the rip? Edit: the missile should fly straight off the rail at the beginning
Now at 9.0 very competent plane, good acceleration, climb, turns on a dime (but just once : ) but you must play it extra carefully, no negative G maneuvers of any kind, roll then pull if you need to go negative G. Speaking of which, also roll gently, cause roll is also neg-g on ONE of your wings. Boost only in gentle maneuvers or in a straight line. What keeps it down are still unreasonably high repair costs (an actual issue for some, especially new players) and the fact that you will still explode your wings roughly 1 every 4-5 matches, even if you are very careful.
Enemies flaring ony your missles? Oh yeah... It always happens, but when I shoot a burst with guns and then missle, they, for some reason, forget that flares exist
It has, got lower br and a little bit more ammo. I love this plane now, it's fast, quick to dump speed and outturn the enemy . Have done a whole bunch of matches with it recently and only once did I rip my wing (my own fault really) Do note that if you go faster than 900km/h the plane becomes hard to turn, so use airbrakes to slow down once ready to dogfight someone.
I think Gaijin has fixed F4D wings. Datamine 2.17.0.152 → 2.17.0.153 changes: F4D-1 - ripping points of the tail changed. I made a test flight yesterday and my wings didn't fell off.
This plane is really fits to wt community so darn well. If you feel like you're going to die and don't want to give them a kill, just press S button, faster than slam to the earth. very efficient self kill denying.
Yes i am aware you can fly it without boosters, might be better but I don't like it.
Try the flaps I think it doesn’t break until ~900kph
@@xueroger678 ye but your wings will :)
also using combat flaps above 900-1000 kph is actually detrimental, it will lock up the plane completely and you will at most only be able to pull 1-2Gs, it's pretty funny. The only way to get out of it is to either pull the flaps back in or start rolling (not a great idea).
Do you think its still unfinished Defyn? I saw some other CC’s comment that the Leo 2AV isnt finished yet maybe its the same for this, if not I was planning on selling this thing anyway…
You should bare in mind this thing might get reworked and become a monster, it hasn’t even become available to everyone yet
It must be pretty frustrating to have your wings rip when you're in the middle of a 5+ kill game or something like that.
Akchually Defyn. This plane is like a lizard. As soon as it senses any kind of danger it pops its wings off as a distraction so you can escape.
seems legit
Goofy ahh plane
How many calories did it take to rip the wing?
@@crayolaconsumerofcrayons1597Definitely not more than your mama takes in a day
@@hasnicktir5310 found the wallet warriors child
Dude I love his dry humor tied in with his snap cuts😂😂
His cuts are always on the money. Just look at the Jag video😂
"It's not the plane, it's the pilot"
The plane:
I know it was pure unadulterated suffering for you, but the way you incorporated the wing rips into the video was incredible. Well done.
11:57 lol that me.
I immediately ripped my wings after this. My stream chat pointed out you were in the game. Plane seems to be a bit less prone to ripping with boosters removed, still kinda meh tho.
I was wondering if that was you. lol
You always meet other wt RUclipsrs in random matches lol
joob reference
that fly story is great
Truly one il tell my kids one day
Dude it wasn't just great, it was litterally the funniest story I heard from Defyn so far.
Zenx out her catching strays just like how a family of 5 catch a stray F4D wing to the roof (may they rest in rip)
Imagine getting a Skyray in-game, and realizing it flies like a Cutlass.
The snail has blessed us yet again.
4:15 xDDD that one caught me off guard ngl
Always love it when defyn uploads as he does great gameplay and tutorial videos! Though, I’ve heard the f4d is pretty bad. Maybe this video will change my mind, or answer my questions.
Let me save you your time, it's still bad:^)
Oh. I’ve been trying to grind it, but I think I’ll let this vehicle pass if it’s wings rip that bad.
If you're almost done just finish and sell it
I’ve been trying to finish it. But my internet has been out for the past week so I most likely won’t be able to.
@@DEFYN People wont want it if its bad
So it has wing mounted guns with no ammo, wing tanks for "missiles", isnt a prem, fights A-5Cs and F-5Cs, cant turn whatsoever above 900kph, is liable to explode at any point between 700 and 900kph at minimum, holds energy as well as a cougar with a busted wing root, but has an afterburner and can technically break mach 1 unlike the F-11. Sounds like a nice 30 gaijin to me.
From the second I saw this plane I called it an american Javelin, I think I might have insulted the Javelin by comparing it to whatever this flying confusion is.
The first moment I test flew it a week ago I also called it a 9.3 javelin lol
You have indeed upset the Javelin. A Firestreak will be delivered to your house shortly
@@firestarteronyoutube5542 it's fine as a British main with over 580 games in the javelin I will gladly accept it :p
Alas, a plane that defeats Defyn by simply self destructing without any notice
3:20 as we can see here, -Vittie- DEFYN is just moving up in the game
that Tate meme:DD I love it. also the cuts at the wing ripping... simply simply lovely (as the other famous dutch would say it)
The cutoffs in this video had me dying of laughter. great video! although i am sad that i am going to get this plane
That's such a shame it's so bad , I like how this plane looks like a heart, it's adorable :3
Heartbroken
It was one of the best interceptors of its day when it was introduced. It set numerous time-to-climb, speed and altitude records that wouldn't be broken for ten years. Gaijin screwed another plane's FM. Not surprised.
Prolly take ages to fix
that rip at 4:10 honestly made me slam my desk. what a tease.
I managed to reliably rip my F2G's wings in offensive maneuvers. Based on that I wouldn't make it off the airfield in this thing here.
Thank you Defyn, i have returned to your content and resubbed too. This is the kinda content i like from you. Giving us the needed info, specs, how to use the plane and then your own opinion. This thing is carbage reward tho, from the amount of grinding needed. Also stupid that they removed low tier fun tier vehicles :( Anyway, keep it up!
I love the snap cuts when you rip/crash/etc. Every time they catch me off guard.
The plane is now playable and actually pretty decent. The low tier performance is awesome and with the engine you can get speed again pretty quick too.
I love the death cuts. They are my favorite parts of your videos. :)
man your videos cheer me up so much, literally chuckling along! thanks defyn xoxoxo
Loving the more frequent uploads. Keep on rippin
I love your slick jokes that you slide in while keeping monotone lmao
You shot was extraordinary gorgeous. Love it.
Hilarious video! The dry humor, fly swatter analogy and andrew tate reference had me cracking up.
Hey at least the wing ripping might lead to a very cheap repair cost. You never know.
A cheap one you need every match is more expensive than an expensive one that survives with kills :^)
@@DEFYN just trying to look at the bright side lol. Btw, is the wing durability better or worse than the F-8U crusader?
F8U is atleast somewhat predictable, but yeah a bit like that
Nah the F11 has the same flight issues as this plane and still has a high repair cost
I know its not that big of a deal, but in arcade mode, this thing seems to fly like just an absolute ufo.
Oh good
Thats because you cant rip in arcade
Have you tried dehavilland vampire in arcade/me163? They also take 4-6 sec to turn around 360° :)
Hey, at least a bad plane gives more opportunities for creative commentary, which is always fun to hear.
Good point
This video is not about the plane, but the good representation of Defyn's amazing aim skills
"I started just swinging that bitch around" had me on the floor lmao 1:10
Remember:
If you self destruct nobody can take your kill
3:16 peak comedy which I love from him
They fixed the ripping issue. It's a lot better now
Those jumpcuts when you break your wings are lovely
I think that this plane might actualy be good in SB, as you are in full control of the wing overloads. If someone flew it there please tell me.
it has a nice radar and great visibility so most likely
Should be very strong in sim if it sits at 9.3. Since EC6 caps at 9.3 you will be fighting korean era jets while flying something with radar, missiles and afterburner. This was the case with the demon until they bumped it to 9.7.
@@stoyantodorov2133 I think its SB rank its gonna be 9.7, just like Lightning is 9.3, but 9.7 in SB
I fly mostly Sim, I'll try let you know how good it is there.
@@herculesjyt6802 I also fly sim a lot. Maybe we could fly together sometime
With boosters, you can pull pitch freely as long as you do not roll between 700-900 km/h IAS. You rip if you pull with combat flaps at 600-900 km/h IAS even without rolling. If you consider these limitations, you can get a lot of work done for the team. People love to pitch up after you even if they can never catch up.
I went to click another notification and hit this, not complaining lmao
Bruh, same here
Man they could make this thing so worth it if it had Sparrows but its likely not historical. Real shame since even a basic sparrow would make it incredibly cool as an event support fighter. No need to take hard turns and rip. Real bummer. Also thanks for the video DEFYN!
the Sparrow II would be very cool indeed, but that would most likely put this thing at 9.7 (or even worse, 10.0), depends on how good the missile would be in game. At that BR however, only being able to pull 9Gs at 1000 kph will get you killed so fast.
This is the ultimate Kill Denying Machine 😱 Awesome!
12:02 owh, that's Jetnoob
I love that analogy at 1:20
Sometimes, just sometimes I am glad that I stopped giving a shit about Gaijins QUALITY CONTROL not existing at all.
Imagine, spending your heart, soul, wallet etc on this game just to receive high quality frustration pressed into a golden middle finger pointing straight at you ... oh War Thunder ^^
they clearly don't play their own game.
"The War Thunder experience" - I ignored the whole summer event this time and couldn't be happier. SPG is crap, too, and let's just not talk about everything Navy.
all the vehicles from this event sucked ass anyway
Every time there's an A-10 on screen a wing has a chance at ripping
"Let me explain" -🤓
"Allow me to elaborate" - 🧐
I absolutely love your comparisons. Also, I have the shitfly issue as well, they're everywhere
This reminds me of when I returned to the CL13A half a year ago after a very long time. You touch your mouse above 800kmh and your wings desintegrate to spare parts.
THAT's The designation I'll use for it!!!
the McDonald Douglas Shitfly!
18:41 dude replying with the "cope" is hilarious
This reminds me of flying the sea meteor, the smallest manoeuvre at high speed and you rip a wing off.
A friend of mine who doesn't play planes a lot wanted me to grind the event for this thing. Tried, gave up after one star, I wasn't feeling like playing for an event, even if I got a bit of cash for it.
In hindsight, best decision ever. Save myself time and the guy saved money.
I’m keeping it mostly for looks. Always wanted the Skyray in game, and this event wasn’t so bad from my perspective.
Are you on console? If you are not, just keep the coupon and test drive it.
@@sisu3872 I’m keeping it, already decided
that was actually pretty fun to watch, sorry you had to suffer though
honestly I was pretty sad when my laptop broke down so I can't grind this thing, but after watching your vid I'm super fucking relieved lmao
Need a compilation of every time Defyn rips in this but with Vine boom sfx.
"This thing is the opposite of a Top G..." okay defyn you caught me lacking there 🤣🤣
I love these Dutch analogies. Green shit flies like wtf LOL. I love the Dutch.
We finally found a plane that wants to explode more than a Vautour
13:28 The Critical of Warthunder content.
Welcome to G.91 world. Just ripping wings on slightest turn.
The g91 isn't even in the same realm as this
The g91 is completely manageable
12:38 RIP Jetnoob
I am also a fan of electrical tennis rackets
That analogy was hilarious 🤣
Finally, an event vehicle that isnt instant meta 200 gjn material and actually unique
Sad kfir noises
It’s the only event I’ve done properly lol so I’m sad
Finally gaijin let’s us do an easy grind instead of getting stars by doing stupid challenges and the vehicle turns out to be hot dog water. Huge disappointment.
I can't believe you stole that MiG-21's kill. Shame. He sacrificed himself for that one.
Definitely an interesting plane to fly, tis fun when your wings arent getting removed
"I have to be sooo careful with the controls" *EXTREME OVERLOAD 10G*
3:15 engage that a-10 was a pretty stupid idea but after the ace you feel super confident😂
from now on this plane will be called shitfly
...but i like it so far...the acceleration is the thing...
a big part of the wings snapping of is that the mouse aim will use the rudder.
This airplane is like the F8 like to break his wigs like crazy.
DEFYN is funny asf with his commentary. He’s like the Super GT of War Thunder
Holy shit, thank you for unlocking that memory. I forgot about that guy.
Fun thing is that this is how most planes should behave. Most modern planes have a +9/-2 G limit (and probably even a lower "safe to fly limit"), while WW2 era planes are more around 7G. Not even close to the 12+ G you can pull on some airplanes.
They isnt exactly a g limiter in a ww2 plane
They isnt exactly a g limiter in a ww2 plane
This plane is a amazing. Nothing but fun with it!
When the Mirage visits the USA and enjoys the big mac a little too much.
notice how at 4:12 the missile kinda goes to the side a bit suggesting your plane is drifting, maybe that could cause the rip?
Edit: the missile should fly straight off the rail at the beginning
3:18 I like your cut G
The rip speed of the 'tail' just got changed.
Sounds like the Israeli premium A-4 Skyhawk. Rips wings just sitting on the ground.
This plane is the best at accidentally denying kills for no reason
hahahah:DDD "we are like shitfly" that is all what we need to know on that plane ;DDD
I stopped grinding after the second badge thing and boy I’m glad I did
It's good at one thing at least, looking good
Now at 9.0 very competent plane, good acceleration, climb, turns on a dime (but just once : ) but you must play it extra carefully, no negative G maneuvers of any kind, roll then pull if you need to go negative G. Speaking of which, also roll gently, cause roll is also neg-g on ONE of your wings. Boost only in gentle maneuvers or in a straight line. What keeps it down are still unreasonably high repair costs (an actual issue for some, especially new players) and the fact that you will still explode your wings roughly 1 every 4-5 matches, even if you are very careful.
Love the content keep going
I guess the F11F doesn't feel that bad anymore hahahahaha
4:16 The rip happened at 775km/h... wait whaaaaaaaaat...?!! oke that is stupid
It’s also amazing at looking and acting like a pancake
Enemies flaring ony your missles? Oh yeah... It always happens, but when I shoot a burst with guns and then missle, they, for some reason, forget that flares exist
Has the wing rip been fixed? Love this plane and wondering if its worth picking up
It has, got lower br and a little bit more ammo. I love this plane now, it's fast, quick to dump speed and outturn the enemy .
Have done a whole bunch of matches with it recently and only once did I rip my wing (my own fault really) Do note that if you go faster than 900km/h the plane becomes hard to turn, so use airbrakes to slow down once ready to dogfight someone.
I just test flied the thingk, the cockpit windsheild came off
I think Gaijin has fixed F4D wings. Datamine 2.17.0.152 → 2.17.0.153 changes: F4D-1 - ripping points of the tail changed. I made a test flight yesterday and my wings didn't fell off.
as long as you don't use the flaps at higher speeds they don't feel like they snap as easily as it looks in the video.
holy shit it's Jetnoob 12:00
This plane is really fits to wt community so darn well.
If you feel like you're going to die and don't want to give them a kill, just press S button, faster than slam to the earth.
very efficient self kill denying.
I took the family to Orlando so didn’t get to grind this
I’m glad I didn’t miss much
4:40 I love it when Western Swamp Germans get sarcastic. XD XD XD
Greetings from Eastern Swamp Germany (others call it Northern Germany)
Good to know, glad I stayed away 😂 detachable wings might be nice on the carrier deck tho 🤔
Can’t help it defyn we all commit warcrimes at times