That’s by far the most valid test of the precision/consistency of high quality 22LR ammunition I’ve ever seen: skilled shooter, top tier rifle, no environmental excuses, and truly meaningful group sizes. There can still be unavoidable variables that would affect this and other tests, but although others probably have, I’ve never seen anyone else go to the trouble and expense of conducting anything similar. Thank you. And to add, I appreciated how clearly you made all the test conditions and results. I checked another channel's video just now and couldn't determine what rifle was used and although pictures of targets were shown they didn't identify which ammunition had been used. Even if the information is buried in the narration it's good to be able to go back and review results without having to listen to an entire presentation.
Another awesome video! I'd love to see you shooting an Anschutz 1710 DHB. Some say that they're not as accurate as Anschutz single shot benchrest rifles because they have sloppy chambers for feeding out of a magazine, and then others say that the 1710's will keep up with single shots. If anyone can prove or disprove this theory it'll be you.
Thanks for the statistically valid sample size! It's interesting to note the first 3 or 5 shots at every target and how the final assessment varied from what we saw at that 3-5 shot group. So much of what we think we know is mistaken due to sampling error, small sample size.
Excellent experiment. I've shot four of the five cartridges in my rifles, the exception being X-Act. Hands down the best has been Center-X. Interestingly, in warm-hot weather, I was nailing maximum point scores with Center-X. Now that colder weather has arrived, I've managed to drop one or two points in each of the last three matches. I think it prefers the warmer weather.
Yes, it's all very interesting. The .22LR ammunition that ultimately shows the best performance with a specific rifle is not price determined, but the multitude of variables that go into materials and manufacturing and the dynamics of operation. Then either the barrel likes it a lot or only a little.
Wow! Thank you very much for doing that. Not the results I was expecting 😮. You could definitely hear the SK Rifle Match flyer was hot compared to the rest. Also interesting to hear the model planes in the background. You don’t have a Big Sandy Machine Gun shoot there like the Yanks do by chance 😅
Great shooting Maestro! I wonder what is your technique for cleaning your barrels and what do you think about using aggressive copper solvents . Thank you and enjoy your shooting.
I do not use copper coated bullets, so do not use copper solvents. I keep my barrel maintenance pretty simple. After 200 or so rounds I will use a .22 size bore mop or .22 size bore tip sponge, saturated with C4, attached to a .22 size pistol cleaning rod, pushed just into the chamber only from the breech end, and let soak for 5-15 minutes. After this I will use a dry 1" round 'Pro=Shot Products' cotton patch on a 'PatchWorm', fed breech end, and pull through completely exiting muzzle. I will repeat the cotton patches until dry. After this I pull a lightly oiled patch through one time. Before the next outing, I'll pull a patch through to remove most of the oil. As long as I continue with same manufacturer ammunition, with the same lubrication and lead composition I do not use anything other than Bore tech C4. I rarely push a rod through anymore. If I only shoot up to 100 rounds for an outing, I will omit the mop or bore tip sponge and start with a soaked 1" round cotton patch followed be additional dry patches until no further liquid absorbed. On checking with a bore scope, there is rarely (almost never) a carbon ring left requiring a more aggressive approach. All of this is with the school-of- thought that the barrel 'seasoned' properly with single source ammunition yields optimal performance. Anyhow, at this point in time, that is what I do.
@22rimfireultra67 thank you for your reply! Yes I follow pretty much the same process with the difference of using a dwey rod ( nylon coated) and I only use mineral spirit even on my rifles that shoot copper coated bullets. I'm against copper stripping as I don't believe that copper keeps building up. I actually think that it stabilise and mantein accuracy. I personally call it copper plating.
Great video. Thanks. I have some 30 shot groups with SK Rifle Match and Midas+ on my channel that you may find interesting. Enjoyed seeing someone else shoot a higher sample size. 5 shot groups can be deceiving.
I can't say which ammo your Anschutz would shoot best. You would have to try different brands and see which it prefers. Even then, different lots of the same brand might perform differently from each other. A good source would be the Anschutz forum at Rimfire Central, FWIW, Anschutz North America tests and sells RWS ammunition.
LOL! It wasn't that long ago it would have bothered me as well. After watching the Vudoo Single Shot target shooting and an F-Class John video, I gave it a try. Instant improved vibratory stability. Now it feels odd for me to have it on with this target rifle when shooting. I do replace it when putting the rifle back in the case.
@22rimfireultra67 i like it as a reminder, so I get on the scope the same way every time, with very little input. I found that using it as a pillow just magnifies my heartbeat a lot!
That’s by far the most valid test of the precision/consistency of high quality 22LR ammunition I’ve ever seen: skilled shooter, top tier rifle, no environmental excuses, and truly meaningful group sizes. There can still be unavoidable variables that would affect this and other tests, but although others probably have, I’ve never seen anyone else go to the trouble and expense of conducting anything similar. Thank you.
And to add, I appreciated how clearly you made all the test conditions and results. I checked another channel's video just now and couldn't determine what rifle was used and although pictures of targets were shown they didn't identify which ammunition had been used. Even if the information is buried in the narration it's good to be able to go back and review results without having to listen to an entire presentation.
Nice comments, thanks.
Larger number groups bring home the actual predictor of shot-to-shot consistency. And consistency leads to more 'x's'.
Another awesome video! I'd love to see you shooting an Anschutz 1710 DHB. Some say that they're not as accurate as Anschutz single shot benchrest rifles because they have sloppy chambers for feeding out of a magazine, and then others say that the 1710's will keep up with single shots. If anyone can prove or disprove this theory it'll be you.
Great idea for a comparison video!
54 action single shot vs 54 action magazine fed. Will watch the weather and look for a day. Cheers!
@@22rimfireultra67 Awesome, I'm really looking forward to it.
Very very cool Ultra!! 😎
Always love seeing these tests!
Nice shooting 👍
CenterX for the win. I hope the Great Turkey brought you multiple cases of that lot! Thanks for all of your efforts.
Thanks for the statistically valid sample size! It's interesting to note the first 3 or 5 shots at every target and how the final assessment varied from what we saw at that 3-5 shot group. So much of what we think we know is mistaken due to sampling error, small sample size.
Excellent experiment. I've shot four of the five cartridges in my rifles, the exception being X-Act. Hands down the best has been Center-X. Interestingly, in warm-hot weather, I was nailing maximum point scores with Center-X. Now that colder weather has arrived, I've managed to drop one or two points in each of the last three matches. I think it prefers the warmer weather.
Yes, it's all very interesting. The .22LR ammunition that ultimately shows the best performance with a specific rifle is not price determined, but the multitude of variables that go into materials and manufacturing and the dynamics of operation. Then either the barrel likes it a lot or only a little.
Thank You Sir fer sharing, never fails - Lapua Cntr'-X is hard to beat
Polar biathlon is waaaay better
Wow! Thank you very much for doing that. Not the results I was expecting 😮. You could definitely hear the SK Rifle Match flyer was hot compared to the rest. Also interesting to hear the model planes in the background. You don’t have a Big Sandy Machine Gun shoot there like the Yanks do by chance 😅
Thank you for another Great demo on These Ammo’s 👍🏻👍🏻 And an incredible Rifle set up 🤯 22Ulta
You get what you pay for. Lapua gave you the best results . The CTR-X and least expensive of the Lapua 22lr Rifle Ammo.
Great shooting Maestro! I wonder what is your technique for cleaning your barrels and what do you think about using aggressive copper solvents .
Thank you and enjoy your shooting.
I do not use copper coated bullets, so do not use copper solvents.
I keep my barrel maintenance pretty simple. After 200 or so rounds I will use a .22 size bore mop or .22 size bore tip sponge, saturated with C4, attached to a .22 size pistol cleaning rod, pushed just into the chamber only from the breech end, and let soak for 5-15 minutes. After this I will use a dry 1" round 'Pro=Shot Products' cotton patch on a 'PatchWorm', fed breech end, and pull through completely exiting muzzle. I will repeat the cotton patches until dry. After this I pull a lightly oiled patch through one time. Before the next outing, I'll pull a patch through to remove most of the oil. As long as I continue with same manufacturer ammunition, with the same lubrication and lead composition I do not use anything other than Bore tech C4. I rarely push a rod through anymore.
If I only shoot up to 100 rounds for an outing, I will omit the mop or bore tip sponge and start with a soaked 1" round cotton patch followed be additional dry patches until no further liquid absorbed. On checking with a bore scope, there is rarely (almost never) a carbon ring left requiring a more aggressive approach.
All of this is with the school-of- thought that the barrel 'seasoned' properly with single source ammunition yields optimal performance.
Anyhow, at this point in time, that is what I do.
@22rimfireultra67 thank you for your reply! Yes I follow pretty much the same process with the difference of using a dwey rod ( nylon coated) and I only use mineral spirit even on my rifles that shoot copper coated bullets.
I'm against copper stripping as I don't believe that copper keeps building up. I actually think that it stabilise and mantein accuracy. I personally call it copper plating.
Great video. Thanks. I have some 30 shot groups with SK Rifle Match and Midas+ on my channel that you may find interesting. Enjoyed seeing someone else shoot a higher sample size. 5 shot groups can be deceiving.
Thanks! Will look up your channel.
.....may I ask what state you are in, or are you in Canada....pertty nice look'n country there at the end....
Very nice, which race track are you near
Not a racetrack. Range is in the flight path of an airport.
I may have missed this information, but just to confirm, the target distance is 100yd, right?
50 yards.
Hi very entertaining as usual , in your opinion which ammunition shoots best in a 54 match Anschutz? Thanks
I can't say which ammo your Anschutz would shoot best. You would have to try different brands and see which it prefers. Even then, different lots of the same brand might perform differently from each other.
A good source would be the Anschutz forum at Rimfire Central,
FWIW, Anschutz North America tests and sells RWS ammunition.
You got to lot-test and see.. there is no shortcut to this. Each rifle is unique.
I know that lots of people prefer tenex in their annies
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Not using a cheek riser really gets on peoples nerves. I've seen in the comments!😅
LOL! It wasn't that long ago it would have bothered me as well. After watching the Vudoo Single Shot target shooting and an F-Class John video, I gave it a try. Instant improved vibratory stability. Now it feels odd for me to have it on with this target rifle when shooting. I do replace it when putting the rifle back in the case.
@22rimfireultra67 i like it as a reminder, so I get on the scope the same way every time, with very little input.
I found that using it as a pillow just magnifies my heartbeat a lot!