Paedmonn don’t got it but I know a lot about vr I have had a few headsets I don’t think it is very complicated to set up all you need to do is download steam on a gaming pc hook everything up and u can start with free games also it’s not very also you need more places to set 2 basestations(minitrackingcameras) also the reason it is so good is because the high refresh rate I thing it’s more than double the rift s and the field of view is also way bigger and the controllers are very good they track your fingers and how much pressure you press on each finger
@Paedmonn It is simple. Plug in the head set to the computer and a power outlet. plug the two sensors into outlets as well and then youre ready to play after mapping the floor space with the walk through on screen. takes 10 minutes or less.
Ironically enough my index came the same day my pulleys. I wasn't about to deal with cables for my first VR experience and I have to say, I don't know how people live without pulleys. I still haven't taken off the plastic on the frunk and I keep hitting my frunk with my controllers so I just zip tied my microfiber cloth to the cable which is another thrillseeker idea. Can you recommend or have tried any of the screen protector type products on your lenses? I am trying to find a cheaper option to the plano lens covers.
Yeah I was going to get a Oculus quest but now that I have a powerful pc and I heard about the Facebook thing I’m getting this one, I was going to get a quest even after I got my computer but that Facebook thing is making me get this one
@@scottskadsheim8248 usually (as r/valveindex states) it updates from 8 to 3/4 to order ready then its shipping soon and finally shipped. It goes straight from 8 to 4.
saw this video posted on the valve index subreddit while i was waiting for my food to heat up in the microwave. Found yourself a new subscriber, looking forward to future videos
I built my own pulley system. It took some minor work and cost around $25~ plus labor with poor purchases (bought many things I didn't end up needing) and it was honestly tons of fun.
i ordered in like mid august but switched over to HMD+C and bought the base stations separate on september 5th; base stations coming today and HMD+C tmr
Wow I guess they fixed their shit since you're guys post. I ordered mine january 2021, it said 8 weeks estimated and came in around 4 days. Was trying to line up the order with my new pc coming in
This is the first review I have watched and I already bought it. I talked to people and interacted with those who were using these devices. Even with that Hands-On observation, it was a difficult choice to make and now I'm just searching for information on longevity and smooth usage as well as setup tips. You titled your video perfectly. Upvoted and thank you very much.
I can confirm that the drifting does occur in the new controller overtime as well. albeit much less prominent that a 10%-20% dead-zone will completely nullify it. And in my case so far the drifting doesn't get worse after that. Where the old controller the drift will continue to worsen in that even after setting maximum dead-zone you'll still be sliding around.
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 @MoncimooV Some guy on reddit has since found out the root cause of the drift, apparently it's due to plastic rubbing on plastic in the axle part of the potentiometer. Hard to describe but very easy to understand when you see the photos. The good news is that the replacement component is very easy to find, and only requires minimum soldering work. only the disassembly is kind of tedious. tinyurl.com/y3v583n7
Pro tip. If your index is about to go out of warranty tell steam support your screen flickers on and off sometimes. They will RMA it. You'll get a brand new index.
@@laos85 I'd rather have finger tracking at 144hz than the quest 2. My girlfriend has one and it's a good headset to mess around with but the index is my go to for triple A titles.
@@awsome14619 I rather have a device that doesn't break so I don't have to waste time on fixing and sending back while I enjoy Quest 2 which has a real finger tracking without controllers
Good tips, especially on the counter weight. I’ll have to order that. The cable issue....I noticed when I got my index a couple of weeks ago, they really wind the cable pretty tight. The area where the two cables become one specifically. I was surprised I didn’t have to RMA it. Who ever is packing these need to watch that. It’s no wonder there have been people get theirs and have it dead out of the box.
That makes me wonder, do they change the device based on the problems that occur? So the Indexes made a year ago are different than the ones made recently? I guess it would make sense money-wise, since replacing devices probably can rack up big costs with issues that are common.
that chair setup was genius haha! love that one=] feel like this video is a large flex at how amazing your place is!:) its brilliant i love it. great video, i was already trying to stop myself buying an index and now im not gonna have any chance:(!
Ummm this comment got flagged as spam. What have you been up to Steve! Not flexing, covid has made my muscles weak and flabby. Yeah I started the chair attachment when I used to use a Wireless V\ive Pro. I would strap the whole battery to the back of the chair.
I'd go with an hp reverb g2 Better resolution, can pair with index base stations and controllers (the kit will bring the total cost in line with an index and the controllers) plus you get a pair of backup controllers that come with the headset. 2160x2160 per eye. Looks amazing
At 3:24. I was going to ask about the mic picking up that fan and you answered the question as I thought of it. Such a quality video. Again, thank you so much. I will share this with people. It's going to my discord right now.
OpenVR advanced settings also has the center marker and it can offset, rotate and do pretty much everything with the chaperone, plus it's free and open source
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One of the best cases you can have for VR is a Thermaltake P series case, it has an open air design, but for VR headsets, there are Solid Steel pillar mounts that hold the Tinted Tempered Glass Plate to the chassis, What you do is use 2 velcro straps and if you have it upright or in horizonal use 2 pillars to secure the wiring with slack on the back end of the PC(You can drape it underneath over the top or on a side, If you combine it with a pully you can have some of it retract as well, all in all fully loaded it should be around 35-50lbs of hardware to anchor 2), Otherwise on a regular case on the back there are ventilation holes take a couple zip ties and create anchor points for the Velcro if your PC has Feet that are thick enough run your wire under the PC. Another alternative is getting something from Ikea like Mick or Alex file cabinet(also nice for storing the headset) and adding the secure mount channeling.
For anyone wondering these days if the headset is still worth it, not at full price. It’s just too much to ask 1k for such a dated device. If it’s second handed at a *really low* price then go ahead
Something i would recommend trying are flexible cable looms for your headset cable it might help to prevent tangles and kinks haven't tried it yet but will soon
@@yomama91927e Well, I have confidence that they worked out the kinks. They had help from Valve this time, too. MRTV Sebastian was raving about the Reverb G2 in his preview, that carries a lot of weight with me. There may be some quality issues, but it's not like the Index and controllers didn't have their flaws either. I actually had to RMA my Index HMD. I think HP got it right this time, overall. At this point in the game I think I will quite possibly be updating my VR gear annually.
The only really good thing about the G2 as far as I know (compared to the Index) is the resolution. Now it would be great for immersion, especially for the price. Seeing text and some other things may even make you cry it’s so good. But I’ve become accustomed to the 120-144 hz on the Index and now I can’t go back. In fact, I could never use VR for more than an hour before I got my Index (I was on Rift CV1) now though, I can last up to 3 hours until it’s just the pressure on my head that gets to me because I prefer to wear my HMD’s very tight. The controllers on the G2 look like they will be a step up from before, but still not the best. And I haven’t even gotten to one of the biggest things yet! There’s a rumor that to get consistent frames at the Max resolution, you’ll need at least a 2080. I know that’s not what it says on the website but a few people have speculated that what they recommended won’t even be able to keep consistent frames. Now, I know I’ve left out a lot of things that this headset has as a plus, one of them being the inside out tracking, but personally, I can’t stand inside out tracking. I have tried multiple rift s headsets and I must say I was not impressed. I think inside out tracking is the future, but I don’t think we are there yet. And again, given the track record of HP (I know they’re working with Valve but Valve didn’t design everything) I don’t think I can trust their inside out tracking will be better
Too bad you didn't have a sponsored link for the chillindex, i didnt know it exist and just ordered it because of you. Thank you man. Edit: For future reference, i have this now, and i dont think this makes any if much difference to be using. After 10 minutes of BoxVr my glasses get foggy at max fan speed.
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 Maybe, but if it's something you recommend and it makes sense... I've bought thrill of the fight, i need all the cooling possible, and i also got the covers for the index and pulley system. If it helps you make a living and it's you genuine recommendation, i don't see the harm.
I finally saved enough after months of doing so and I’ve made the first step of placing my order for an Index. I placed it last week, and within a few days I went from “ships in 8 or more weeks” down to 4, and just today I’ve moved down to three. I’m kinda shocked it’s moving along so quickly, and kind of in disbelief too. Anyone have recent purchasing experience? I’m curious as to how long it could actually take for me to get the purchase confirmation prompt.
Ordered mine around November 26th, said “9 or more weeks” dropped pretty rapidly to 5 and then 3, then sat on 2 for alittle while. December 16th I was able to enter the info and it shipped out the next day 👍🏼 arrives tomorrow!
its a 3 month wait for one, i got another 28 days left or go to ebay and buy from scalpers. had my 1st gen oculus for 4 years now no problems. take care of your shit and do research before you buy!
Im planning to use the index or the reverb g2 prolonged simulator sessions, also by people not used to vr or gaming. So consistent fps is important i think. From that perspective, what do you guys recommend i choose? I thought the index, since it has higher fov and balance on the head? On the other hand, the reduced screendoor and increased res (have beefy pc) would advocate the g2 maybe..? For this sim i will not be using controllers so controler tracking is not a variable i take into account.
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 thanks! And what about the fov being lower than on the index, would that not be a disadvantage maybe increasing motion sickness (because the image is more narrow?)
@@Flightcoach won't impact motion sickness, there is a mod you can do to increase the fov. Some people notice the fov more than others so its hard for me to say
i was planning to order an Index, but now there are rumors or talks of a wireless index or an adapter to make it wireless. Nothing confirmed yet, but I know the moment I order one, they will announce something. I always have that luck.
You should put an order in now even if you’re not 100% sure since the wait times for it take quite a while. You don’t actually pay till it’s ready to ship.
Got mine today and so excited to set it up and get it working. Definitely coming back to this video I future so remind myself and see what I need. Some great tips, especially that about cable mounts on your chair.
I've been thinking about getting an Index, but seeing that it would be an 8 week wait (or possibly more) before I could receive it, I'm not sure. I'm open to insight on that, though.
If you have a high end gaming system to pair with the index, its worth the wait. You would have to wait just as long for the reverb g2 as its not out yet
Do what I did -- push that order button! There's 0 commitment, they will just contact you when it's your turn 8+ weeks later, and then you would provide payment and shipping info then. You can always change your mind as you wait, but get in line first!
It says 8 weeks but I got my confirmation to order after 4 days, now I have 7 days to decide if I want to order. I have the Vive and get too much VR sickness but VR is so cool. Edit: I only ordered the headset so that probably helped the speed.
Alan Ross just to know, do we really need to buy the full kit at 1 800$? Like, can’t i just buy the headset and the controller without all the tracking thing ( just to know if it’s possible to buy it at a lower price lol
Brought a quest 2 for 300 pounds. Now addicted to vr. Now i need at least 3 grand for a gaming pc and valve index not to mention the cost of all the new cool pcvr games and thr worst bit is is its all out of stock 😭😭😭😭
On your controllers, did you encounter a trigger being noisy? My one of the right is the trigger for every gun games and he is squeaky as hell For the sticks, I didn't encounter it yet but I got this headset in November 2019 and I'm not playing that much, if I compare to you, I hope it will not happen at the end of the rma support :p I'm like you, I love the controllers, I love this headset, and valve is great, they replaced my headset because of a dead pixel and it took less than 15 days if I remember correctly, while they were in shortage back in 2019
Valve doesn’t ship to my country I checked steamvr it doesn’t , what do I do ? I love valve but I’m just thinking of getting a vive since it does ,should I get it on amazon or second hand
dont get it it. i got it and its not worth it. index controller joysticks break in like 2 months and theres better headsets like deca gear so u should prob wait
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 well I'm just gonna say its not worth saving up for. If you have the money to spare then I would be kinda meh about it depending on who you are. But if I had the money right now to buy a headset i would still wait for deca gear. The index is a good headset but its annoying how people rarely acknowledge the cons like it's short life span
I bought cable extensions and then made sure the index cable slipped out of the extensions more easily that way I hook the extensions to my desk and if I go to far then my index just comes unplugged rather than jerking on the cord or pc. And yeah twisting with the pulley system can kill a cable in minutes so definitely be careful
Bought $1,500 vr headset just to listen to child screaming and whinning while playing casual beat saber game. Doing fixes due to faulty relyability. Nice investment.
If you joy sticks are experiencing problems after 400 hours.. or any hours... your being to ruff with them.. Ive had my index for almost 2 years and It looks and preforms like the day I first got it
Hey Matteo, did you oder your headset during the 8 weeks thing. If so how long did you have to wait? My eight weeks ends tomorrow and I'm just curious. Thank!
I went about 650 hours before I experience any drift. Valve advanced shipped me a replacement. I've punched the wall numerous times, the new ones are holding up.
I have oculus rift S just got out the box yesterday, tried set it up and no go I have had it for a year. Bummed my system I powerful enough do not what the deal is. I think it's the pci card for usb 3 drivers? But now the occuls shows no detection?
If your system wasn't powerful enough you would just have poor performance. Double check everything is connected properly. The cable might even been loose on the headset side. Try different USB ports
My biggest issue is comfort while wearing glasses. The HMD pushes my glasses down onto the bridge of my nose and after about an hour it gets too painful and I need to take a break for a few mins. This has been an issue with every headset I've used though and its actually not as bad in the Index as with some others. I've considered getting the custom prescription inserts but they're nearly $100 and you can't use them in any other headset... The only other issue is how frustrating it is that so many VR games are Oculus exclusives...it's really anti-consumerist and greedy IMO...
I ordered mine and waited 2 days then said shipping soon then was at my house next day talk about fast shipping but of course it's not as bad as it was 8 months ago but still says 2 week ship time so got lucky still
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 ya I love it . Honestly it looks way better then my quest 2 even with link maxed at 1.7 .. only issue I have is trying to not grip my hand in pop one take time to get use to again ... I've seen you in lobbies I believe in past
kinda ridiculous you need to buy all these extra things just so you can use this headset comfortably,for a thoussand dollar i expect none of these problems.
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 according to my math (that i made up) i should be getting it within the next 7-9 days seeing as people who ordered about 5 days before i did started getting payment emails
Do you know anything about the glare on these models, is it typical? Just got mine and seems to have kind of a nasty glare sometimes in darker areas and some very light areas. It's *usually* easy to ignore but sometimes it downright breaks the immersion for me. Should I RMA the headset? After a 10 week waiting period I'm worried I'll go another several weeks without a replacement. The lenses appeared to be not 100% clean when I received the headset, could this play a role? Thanks for the help!
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 Alrighty right on, yeah its pretty bad in a lot of the Steam Home environments, but hasn't been as big a problem in Alyx. I'll try turning the brightness down and see if that helps a bit
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 I'm also getting the VR Optician lens inserts (nearsighted) I wonder if that will affect the glare at all. Will let you know the results when they arrive!
The Valve Index is basically how Gamers dreamed of how the Nintendo Power Glove would work if the commercials did not outright lie to your fucken ass face! But this time you get Two of Them! " What A True Innovation" Technology really is just an upgrade from past ideas...
Got mine today and it aint working at all for some reason. Everything but the headset can be updated driver wise, and it keeps disconnecting. Already used every usb 3 port on my mobo and nothing changed. Sad
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 Yeah definitely. I have tried all of the 3 Display Ports on my 3090. I have tried 4 different positions for my lighthouses focused one my 2x2m "play area", in which the distance between the LHs varies from 6 to 3,6m. The heights also varied from 2,4m and 1,5m. I have also tried covering my monitor and glass panel side of the PC with a towel, yet it kept doing it. I have contacted Steam support regarding this issue, and funnily enough you were faster than them, heads off to you good sir, gotta leave a like and subscribe. Anyhow, I'll prob just refund my kit and order a new one as I don't seem to be able to find the source of the issue. Edit: I didn't step on or crush the cable ^^
So valve support said it may be the cable‘s fault and I should try to re plug it on the headset itself. I did that , now it doesn’t work at all anymore ^^ I’ll be getting a new cable now. If anyone else has this issue, just hit up valve for a new cable.
Valve needs to disect the original oculus touch controllers and see how they made a controller that can take such a beating and still work amazing I mean I still have both my wife and my rift cv1 units with touch controllers and we haven't had anything go bad at all. I did purchase an extra cable for backup yes ago but haven't used it yet. The cv1 was a tough SOB hahaha
I finally got my Index 3 days ago and boy is it worth it
Yeah its excellent
Paedmonn don’t got it but I know a lot about vr I have had a few headsets I don’t think it is very complicated to set up all you need to do is download steam on a gaming pc hook everything up and u can start with free games also it’s not very also you need more places to set 2 basestations(minitrackingcameras) also the reason it is so good is because the high refresh rate I thing it’s more than double the rift s and the field of view is also way bigger and the controllers are very good they track your fingers and how much pressure you press on each finger
I hate the glare, I will sell mine and get the hp reverb g2
@@x32i77 same here. Way overpriced. G2 ordered.
@Paedmonn It is simple. Plug in the head set to the computer and a power outlet. plug the two sensors into outlets as well and then youre ready to play after mapping the floor space with the walk through on screen. takes 10 minutes or less.
just getting a valve index now because they’ve just become available in my country this video gave me lots of good info that i am going to use 👍👍
Glad to help
Valve support is the best. I recently had issues with both my controllers and they immediately sent replacements.
Same here
I just ordered mine.
you are going to love it
Matteo311 Awesome! Thanks for the reply! I was a little nervous about spending $1000 on it but people seem to think it’s worth the price.
Awesome video! Though I wanted to ask, does anyone know how to properly clean the face gasket after a few sweaty game sessions?
vrborg.com/guide/how-to-clean-valve-index#:~:text=Soap%20%26%20Water,water%20is%20warm%2C%20not%20hot.
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 I'd probably just look up a video tutorial. This guide doesnt help visually, at all.
Same way you clean motorcycle helmets. Dawn dish washing liquid and hot water. Rinse with cold.
That's a weird name to call it but if I remember correctly you wash your face with a wash cloth and soap 🧼 thats how I clean my face gasket
get in shape.
Ironically enough my index came the same day my pulleys. I wasn't about to deal with cables for my first VR experience and I have to say, I don't know how people live without pulleys. I still haven't taken off the plastic on the frunk and I keep hitting my frunk with my controllers so I just zip tied my microfiber cloth to the cable which is another thrillseeker idea. Can you recommend or have tried any of the screen protector type products on your lenses? I am trying to find a cheaper option to the plano lens covers.
sorry I haven't used any
At 3:15 did you say in the fronk??
Frunk. Its what the opening us commonly called. Frunk, like front trunk
Anyone know how the shippings looking like these days for shipping time
mine is taking less than a week from purchase
@@clownavenger0 same mine took two days
Oculus announces you need to log into Fb to use oculus.
Valve: snickers....we don't even have to try anymore.
Unreleased vr headset companies and other "indie" companies: I think I just heard the sound of free money?
Yeah I was going to get a Oculus quest but now that I have a powerful pc and I heard about the Facebook thing I’m getting this one, I was going to get a quest even after I got my computer but that Facebook thing is making me get this one
@@theoneandonly5599 Same as you. Unfortunately for me they are out of stock and I can't order one for now. I will have to be patient.
Cable pulleys..., really? Base stations....hmm? Maybe they do need to try some more!!!
Getting rid of Rift S because of this. Just ordered Index max package. FUCK FACEBOOK!
i cant wait
just got unstuck on "Ships in 8 or more weeks." and have graduated to "Ships in 3 or more weeks." So exited
I'm excited for you too
When did you order?
Did it go straight to 3 weeks or nah? Been waiting for about 8 weeks or something now its still stuck on 8 weeks😁🔫
@@scottskadsheim8248 usually (as r/valveindex states) it updates from 8 to 3/4 to order ready then its shipping soon and finally shipped. It goes straight from 8 to 4.
Honestly after reading these long waiting lists ima order one and then upgrade my pc during the wait
saw this video posted on the valve index subreddit while i was waiting for my food to heat up in the microwave. Found yourself a new subscriber, looking forward to future videos
Glad to hear it! thanks for being here
I built my own pulley system. It took some minor work and cost around $25~ plus labor with poor purchases (bought many things I didn't end up needing) and it was honestly tons of fun.
It’s only been 11 days since I’ve placed my order and I am already going a little insane waiting for this thing.
73 days here, it doesn't get better
Wackalope Let me know when you get yours so I can have a small taste of hope that mine might be on its way someday.
i ordered in like mid august but switched over to HMD+C and bought the base stations separate on september 5th; base stations coming today and HMD+C tmr
87 days here 😂😂 I got way to much patience
Wow I guess they fixed their shit since you're guys post. I ordered mine january 2021, it said 8 weeks estimated and came in around 4 days. Was trying to line up the order with my new pc coming in
This is the first review I have watched and I already bought it. I talked to people and interacted with those who were using these devices. Even with that Hands-On observation, it was a difficult choice to make and now I'm just searching for information on longevity and smooth usage as well as setup tips.
You titled your video perfectly. Upvoted and thank you very much.
:)
Crys because valve doesn’t ship to my country yet ,what do I do ?? I’m so mad i wanna cry
Check out the HP reverb 2!!!
im getting a valve index for christmas after using my cv1 for 4 years and im so exited!!!
You will love it
Glad yours will arrive before Christmas. In the US, everyone I've talked to still has 8+ weeks on their order. Enjoy!
@@3ountyhunter i orderd mine at the 11th and its on the way will arrive at 17 sry for bad english
I'm gonna get a Valve Index this christmas and i'm so excited
You are going to love it
Where can u get it there sold out everywhere
@@oscarrawcliffe3535 I'm in Oregon, US. they're not sold out for me, just taking long for the confirmation thing to arrive.
lucky bastard
I can confirm that the drifting does occur in the new controller overtime as well. albeit much less prominent that a 10%-20% dead-zone will completely nullify it. And in my case so far the drifting doesn't get worse after that. Where the old controller the drift will continue to worsen in that even after setting maximum dead-zone you'll still be sliding around.
I'll take the improvement
so then i better find the newest controlers, august 2020+++ ver
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 @MoncimooV Some guy on reddit has since found out the root cause of the drift, apparently it's due to plastic rubbing on plastic in the axle part of the potentiometer. Hard to describe but very easy to understand when you see the photos. The good news is that the replacement component is very easy to find, and only requires minimum soldering work. only the disassembly is kind of tedious. tinyurl.com/y3v583n7
@@DejectedCat valve replaced it for free so no point to try and repair it
Pro tip. If your index is about to go out of warranty tell steam support your screen flickers on and off sometimes. They will RMA it. You'll get a brand new index.
Advance pro tip. Buy Quest 2. Because it lacks the breaking feature that keep you worrying.
100% sure?
@@laos85 I'd rather have finger tracking at 144hz than the quest 2. My girlfriend has one and it's a good headset to mess around with but the index is my go to for triple A titles.
@@Angelwithas doesn't hurt to try
@@awsome14619 I rather have a device that doesn't break so I don't have to waste time on fixing and sending back while I enjoy Quest 2 which has a real finger tracking without controllers
Wish I had the money for something like this
Rift Cv1 > Rift S > Index
Should be here in about 4-8 business days :))
Awesome, congrats
Good tips, especially on the counter weight. I’ll have to order that. The cable issue....I noticed when I got my index a couple of weeks ago, they really wind the cable pretty tight. The area where the two cables become one specifically. I was surprised I didn’t have to RMA it. Who ever is packing these need to watch that. It’s no wonder there have been people get theirs and have it dead out of the box.
i got mine a few days ago and it shouldn't have drift or anything, since it's a 2020 model
That makes me wonder, do they change the device based on the problems that occur? So the Indexes made a year ago are different than the ones made recently? I guess it would make sense money-wise, since replacing devices probably can rack up big costs with issues that are common.
@@julbar25 i mean i haven't had drift yet so maybe
that chair setup was genius haha! love that one=] feel like this video is a large flex at how amazing your place is!:) its brilliant i love it. great video, i was already trying to stop myself buying an index and now im not gonna have any chance:(!
Ummm this comment got flagged as spam. What have you been up to Steve!
Not flexing, covid has made my muscles weak and flabby. Yeah I started the chair attachment when I used to use a Wireless V\ive Pro. I would strap the whole battery to the back of the chair.
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 spam I'm offended! youre always 10/10 :P
The bromance continues ❤
@@AlehandroSosa indeed it does
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 love watching it unfold.
I have the older htc vive headset with the wireless adapter. I can't go back to wires
I did and honestly don't mind compared to the benefits of the index
I for some reason am hearing Mike Matei's voice when I hear you speak. It's not exact, but now I can't unhear it. Lol.
I had to look him up. Looks like he lived in a neighbor state and we are around the same age so that's understandable
i hear ben barnes playin as billy russo
Lol I sorta hear it now
I've been doing a TON of research and I think the valve index is gonna be the best choice for me
I'd go with an hp reverb g2
Better resolution, can pair with index base stations and controllers (the kit will bring the total cost in line with an index and the controllers) plus you get a pair of backup controllers that come with the headset.
2160x2160 per eye. Looks amazing
@@SuperballsSupervidsOnYT nice job commenting this over a year after the original comment
@pfpsi God forbid someone reply to an old comment.
Ironic that you reply almost a year after I commented.
It's too bad It's not wireless 😕
valve is working on it
At 3:24. I was going to ask about the mic picking up that fan and you answered the question as I thought of it. Such a quality video. Again, thank you so much. I will share this with people. It's going to my discord right now.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you so much for sharing
So excited. I ordered mine back in March and now it's finally in the post.
you are going to love it
@Grady Jock idk Covid plus just general delays in production. Have it now though and it's great.
@Grady Jock Same. For standard shipments, it could either arrive around Christmas- or way after, which is scary.
Mine just arrived, upgraded from the rift cv1 :)
You will love it
Loving the headset, controllers take a bit getting used to in beatsaber though
@@robertlee2473 they will feel natural soon enough
OpenVR advanced settings also has the center marker and it can offset, rotate and do pretty much everything with the chaperone, plus it's free and open source
Valve even has an update now that lets you mess around with the chaperone and recenter. I use openVR but fpsVR just has so many useful tools in it
Was just looking for content on the index in the last week love it, new sub
Thanks
got my index yesterday and it's bloody incredible
Anything broke?
little late to the party but I got one :D
AA I REGRET GETTING MY QUEST 2 NOW 😭
Don't, enjoy it
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@Qi QI contact steam support of its not too old they will replace it
@Qi QI because.....
I dont think it will be soon when quest 2 is out tbh and what do u think of a 2070super and a i7-9700k for an index
that's a great hardware combo for the index. All games should run at a constant 90fps and some games at 120fps.
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 what about a 2060Super? with same cpu
@@mesomebody774 if you want a 2060 super maybe get a 5700XT. Works really wel for vr.
I’m getting a index this week 😃
Congrats
One of the best cases you can have for VR is a Thermaltake P series case, it has an open air design, but for VR headsets, there are Solid Steel pillar mounts that hold the Tinted Tempered Glass Plate to the chassis, What you do is use 2 velcro straps and if you have it upright or in horizonal use 2 pillars to secure the wiring with slack on the back end of the PC(You can drape it underneath over the top or on a side, If you combine it with a pully you can have some of it retract as well, all in all fully loaded it should be around 35-50lbs of hardware to anchor 2), Otherwise on a regular case on the back there are ventilation holes take a couple zip ties and create anchor points for the Velcro if your PC has Feet that are thick enough run your wire under the PC. Another alternative is getting something from Ikea like Mick or Alex file cabinet(also nice for storing the headset) and adding the secure mount channeling.
For anyone wondering these days if the headset is still worth it, not at full price. It’s just too much to ask 1k for such a dated device. If it’s second handed at a *really low* price then go ahead
Is $600 a good price?
@@vroom0925 the Quest 3 is far superior to the index and costs about 500 brand new
@@vroom0925yes
Something i would recommend trying are flexible cable looms for your headset cable it might help to prevent tangles and kinks haven't tried it yet but will soon
Thank you for these tips! I'm going to be buying the index very soon.
Can't wait for Reverb G2 to be on the list. It just might be the new king for awhile.
eh... don’t jump the gun. HP’s track record is not that great
@@yomama91927e Well, I have confidence that they worked out the kinks. They had help from Valve this time, too. MRTV Sebastian was raving about the Reverb G2 in his preview, that carries a lot of weight with me. There may be some quality issues, but it's not like the Index and controllers didn't have their flaws either. I actually had to RMA my Index HMD. I think HP got it right this time, overall. At this point in the game I think I will quite possibly be updating my VR gear annually.
The fov though
The only really good thing about the G2 as far as I know (compared to the Index) is the resolution. Now it would be great for immersion, especially for the price. Seeing text and some other things may even make you cry it’s so good. But I’ve become accustomed to the 120-144 hz on the Index and now I can’t go back. In fact, I could never use VR for more than an hour before I got my Index (I was on Rift CV1) now though, I can last up to 3 hours until it’s just the pressure on my head that gets to me because I prefer to wear my HMD’s very tight. The controllers on the G2 look like they will be a step up from before, but still not the best. And I haven’t even gotten to one of the biggest things yet! There’s a rumor that to get consistent frames at the Max resolution, you’ll need at least a 2080. I know that’s not what it says on the website but a few people have speculated that what they recommended won’t even be able to keep consistent frames. Now, I know I’ve left out a lot of things that this headset has as a plus, one of them being the inside out tracking, but personally, I can’t stand inside out tracking. I have tried multiple rift s headsets and I must say I was not impressed. I think inside out tracking is the future, but I don’t think we are there yet. And again, given the track record of HP (I know they’re working with Valve but Valve didn’t design everything) I don’t think I can trust their inside out tracking will be better
Too bad you didn't have a sponsored link for the chillindex, i didnt know it exist and just ordered it because of you. Thank you man.
Edit: For future reference, i have this now, and i dont think this makes any if much difference to be using. After 10 minutes of BoxVr my glasses get foggy at max fan speed.
If I put a sponsored link people will accuse me of being a sell out :)
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 Maybe, but if it's something you recommend and it makes sense... I've bought thrill of the fight, i need all the cooling possible, and i also got the covers for the index and pulley system. If it helps you make a living and it's you genuine recommendation, i don't see the harm.
had my index for 3 days the base stations are red
that is just some bad luck. both are red? I've had basestations on my wall running for years
thank you]
I finally saved enough after months of doing so and I’ve made the first step of placing my order for an Index.
I placed it last week, and within a few days I went from “ships in 8 or more weeks” down to 4, and just today I’ve moved down to three. I’m kinda shocked it’s moving along so quickly, and kind of in disbelief too.
Anyone have recent purchasing experience? I’m curious as to how long it could actually take for me to get the purchase confirmation prompt.
Its spend up recently and has been around 2 to 6 weeks for most people
Ordered mine around November 26th, said “9 or more weeks” dropped pretty rapidly to 5 and then 3, then sat on 2 for alittle while. December 16th I was able to enter the info and it shipped out the next day 👍🏼 arrives tomorrow!
it took me 13 weeks but i finally got the bad boy. cant wait to sink my life into this.
Congrats, you are going to love it
How is it holding up for you? Been playing a lot? Controllers in good shape..?
its a 3 month wait for one, i got another 28 days left or go to ebay and buy from scalpers. had my 1st gen oculus for 4 years now no problems. take care of your shit and do research before you buy!
One genuine tip for all pcvr users. Face away from your computer when using your headset. That way the cable won't get tangled.
Im planning to use the index or the reverb g2 prolonged simulator sessions, also by people not used to vr or gaming. So consistent fps is important i think. From that perspective, what do you guys recommend i choose? I thought the index, since it has higher fov and balance on the head? On the other hand, the reduced screendoor and increased res (have beefy pc) would advocate the g2 maybe..? For this sim i will not be using controllers so controler tracking is not a variable i take into account.
For sims and sims alone I would recommend the g2. Comfort is very similar to the index.
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 thanks! And what about the fov being lower than on the index, would that not be a disadvantage maybe increasing motion sickness (because the image is more narrow?)
@@Flightcoach won't impact motion sickness, there is a mod you can do to increase the fov. Some people notice the fov more than others so its hard for me to say
I'm getting my index this weekend
Nice
For the cable, buy a pulley system. Ive never had more freedom in VR and it helps keep my vr safe from damage with running my chair over the wire
Got my Index like a week ago finally, love it. Beat Saber is a blast on the index.
Still waiting for mine. Ordered it about 11 days ago to 12 days ago. How long did it take for yours to process and ship?
I never thought they'd ship mine a day later. Still waiting for my VR cover...
Also I should just get Beat Saber, sale will never come.
@@TalonOG 8 or so weeks
@@TalonOG i ordered mine about 2 months ago and its still stuck on "ships within 8 weeks"
@ corona?
i was planning to order an Index, but now there are rumors or talks of a wireless index or an adapter to make it wireless. Nothing confirmed yet, but I know the moment I order one, they will announce something. I always have that luck.
Then what are you waiting for? Buy one for the good of the community!
You should put an order in now even if you’re not 100% sure since the wait times for it take quite a while. You don’t actually pay till it’s ready to ship.
Got mine today and so excited to set it up and get it working. Definitely coming back to this video I future so remind myself and see what I need. Some great tips, especially that about cable mounts on your chair.
I've been thinking about getting an Index, but seeing that it would be an 8 week wait (or possibly more) before I could receive it, I'm not sure. I'm open to insight on that, though.
If you have a high end gaming system to pair with the index, its worth the wait. You would have to wait just as long for the reverb g2 as its not out yet
Do what I did -- push that order button! There's 0 commitment, they will just contact you when it's your turn 8+ weeks later, and then you would provide payment and shipping info then. You can always change your mind as you wait, but get in line first!
@@TappingTV good call
It says 8 weeks but I got my confirmation to order after 4 days, now I have 7 days to decide if I want to order. I have the Vive and get too much VR sickness but VR is so cool. Edit: I only ordered the headset so that probably helped the speed.
Alan Ross just to know, do we really need to buy the full kit at 1 800$?
Like, can’t i just buy the headset and the controller without all the tracking thing
( just to know if it’s possible to buy it at a lower price lol
Brought a quest 2 for 300 pounds. Now addicted to vr.
Now i need at least 3 grand for a gaming pc and valve index not to mention the cost of all the new cool pcvr games and thr worst bit is is its all out of stock 😭😭😭😭
Am I the only one who notices that the valve index looks like the vulture from spider man homecoming
Im very excited about my Index. I will begin at Christmas too enjoy her.
On your controllers, did you encounter a trigger being noisy?
My one of the right is the trigger for every gun games and he is squeaky as hell
For the sticks, I didn't encounter it yet but I got this headset in November 2019 and I'm not playing that much, if I compare to you, I hope it will not happen at the end of the rma support :p
I'm like you, I love the controllers, I love this headset, and valve is great, they replaced my headset because of a dead pixel and it took less than 15 days if I remember correctly, while they were in shortage back in 2019
My triggers were both noisy as hell when I got them. I can't say how long it took before it went away.
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 well, I will see. As far as I remembered, they went noisy only after a couple of months, and didn't stop since
@@eusebe823 i saw on trillseeker that u can clean out the trigger with some compressed air try that
Valve doesn’t ship to my country I checked steamvr it doesn’t , what do I do ? I love valve but I’m just thinking of getting a vive since it does ,should I get it on amazon or second hand
I would definitely get it from amazon, their return policy is excellent
Vive cosmos until it the valve is available.
How good a computer i need for it ? I have crappy hpallinone , do i need a $2000 pc for it to work ?
Only issue in worried about when i get mine, is something breaking or i run and i snag my pc.
Can you do a review every year bcz im 80% close to save up
Yup. I do periodic updates
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 ok ty
dont get it it. i got it and its not worth it. index controller joysticks break in like 2 months and theres better headsets like deca gear so u should prob wait
@@anrai8525 i have 8 headsets. I prefer the index overall others in every way
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 well I'm just gonna say its not worth saving up for. If you have the money to spare then I would be kinda meh about it depending on who you are. But if I had the money right now to buy a headset i would still wait for deca gear. The index is a good headset but its annoying how people rarely acknowledge the cons like it's short life span
I bought cable extensions and then made sure the index cable slipped out of the extensions more easily that way I hook the extensions to my desk and if I go to far then my index just comes unplugged rather than jerking on the cord or pc. And yeah twisting with the pulley system can kill a cable in minutes so definitely be careful
Pov meta launching a mixed reality headset. What we all actually wanted the Quest index
i really wish i owned a Valve Index because my family is poor
How did you get the index cause I’ve looked all over and can’t find them
They only sell them through steam and there is a wait
I’m getting one in a few days I can’t wait
I’m trying to get a used one I may not get it but it’s worth a try!
My index has been down for a year but I finally bought another controller and I’m very excited!!!
Bought $1,500 vr headset just to listen to child screaming and whinning while playing casual beat saber game. Doing fixes due to faulty relyability. Nice investment.
you're playing the wrong games
If you joy sticks are experiencing problems after 400 hours.. or any hours... your being to ruff with them.. Ive had my index for almost 2 years and It looks and preforms like the day I first got it
Lol, no its a common issue with modern sticks and well documented. Playstation 5 controllers are experiencing drift at 200 hours
Wish I could afford a vr headset.... I rlly want a quest!! Luv ur vids
thanks. The Quest might drop in cost soon enough as it looks like Quest 2.0 is going into production
How the actuall fuck do you afford 7 vr headsets
Hey Matteo, did you oder your headset during the 8 weeks thing. If so how long did you have to wait? My eight weeks ends tomorrow and I'm just curious. Thank!
I ordered it at the end of maybe and its just shipping so almost a full 8 weeks. They didn't notify my purchase was ready I had to go and check
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 okay. Thanks again!
20 ish bucks for a piece of cloth and weights for 200 grams.
Talking about being ripped off.
Studioform? Honestly its not a bad deal if you don't feel like DIY-ing some type of solution
I broke 3 controllers 1 month ;/
1 controller drift.
2 times the grip plate become loose :/
I know i have a very tight grib but come on
I went about 650 hours before I experience any drift. Valve advanced shipped me a replacement. I've punched the wall numerous times, the new ones are holding up.
I have oculus rift S just got out the box yesterday, tried set it up and no go I have had it for a year. Bummed my system I powerful enough do not what the deal is. I think it's the pci card for usb 3 drivers? But now the occuls shows no detection?
If your system wasn't powerful enough you would just have poor performance. Double check everything is connected properly. The cable might even been loose on the headset side. Try different USB ports
Me who has the quest 2: *slient crying*
I need my valve index to arrive can’t wait till it’s delivered
How long did it take for it to come?
Thank you so much🙏🏻👏
My biggest issue is comfort while wearing glasses. The HMD pushes my glasses down onto the bridge of my nose and after about an hour it gets too painful and I need to take a break for a few mins. This has been an issue with every headset I've used though and its actually not as bad in the Index as with some others. I've considered getting the custom prescription inserts but they're nearly $100 and you can't use them in any other headset...
The only other issue is how frustrating it is that so many VR games are Oculus exclusives...it's really anti-consumerist and greedy IMO...
Are you using the eyeglass extension piece?
Matteo311 I don’t think so, what’s that?
There is a plastic piece that you add to the face gasket. It came with the quest. I dont wear glasses but still use it due to my big nose
I ordered mine and waited 2 days then said shipping soon then was at my house next day talk about fast shipping but of course it's not as bad as it was 8 months ago but still says 2 week ship time so got lucky still
i think you are going to love it
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 ya I love it . Honestly it looks way better then my quest 2 even with link maxed at 1.7 .. only issue I have is trying to not grip my hand in pop one take time to get use to again ... I've seen you in lobbies I believe in past
@@Sh4dovv I'm sure but not recently. I suck at pop 1, hyper dash is my game
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 I feel like I suck now until I get these controllers down
kinda ridiculous you need to buy all these extra things just so you can use this headset comfortably,for a thoussand dollar i expect none of these problems.
I don't use anything extra at all. People apply 100s of dollars in addons to their quest.
ordered a full kit on may 9th... i'll get it someday
I order just the hmd for someone the end if may and they got it 2 weeks ago. Check your order, they didn't notify me when mine was ready to check out
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 according to my math (that i made up) i should be getting it within the next 7-9 days seeing as people who ordered about 5 days before i did started getting payment emails
Will it work with the g512lw ws74 through 3.2 gen 2 with dp alt mode with a adapter
I can't guarantee the dp adapter will work. I believe this laptop has a 2070 which would be a pretty good experience
This was great - just got mine in the mail - thanks for the tips!
Np, glad to help
Do you know anything about the glare on these models, is it typical? Just got mine and seems to have kind of a nasty glare sometimes in darker areas and some very light areas. It's *usually* easy to ignore but sometimes it downright breaks the immersion for me. Should I RMA the headset? After a 10 week waiting period I'm worried I'll go another several weeks without a replacement. The lenses appeared to be not 100% clean when I received the headset, could this play a role? Thanks for the help!
The god rays and lens glare is decently prominent on the Index. I normally only see it during Splash screens though
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 Alrighty right on, yeah its pretty bad in a lot of the Steam Home environments, but hasn't been as big a problem in Alyx. I'll try turning the brightness down and see if that helps a bit
@@Investigamer i actually recommend upping the brightness to 120% this helps with black levels, trust me
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 I'm also getting the VR Optician lens inserts (nearsighted) I wonder if that will affect the glare at all. Will let you know the results when they arrive!
Just ordered the index while its in stock, super exited for it to arrive!
You will love it
Mine comes tomorrow, so exited!
@@RitchiPlays21 awesome
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA AMOGUS???
what if i dont have a display port
0:20 looks exactly like me tf 🤣
The Valve Index is basically how Gamers dreamed of how the Nintendo Power Glove would work if the commercials did not outright lie to your fucken ass face!
But this time you get Two of Them! " What A True Innovation"
Technology really is just an upgrade from past ideas...
What is that little prism cutout in the front of the headset? Looks like a battery pack holder thing
it's called the frunk. It's designed modding. You can get LCD screens and fans that fit in here
Why are you bringing up old issues that have already been resolved...
like....
Got mine today and it aint working at all for some reason. Everything but the headset can be updated driver wise, and it keeps disconnecting. Already used every usb 3 port on my mobo and nothing changed. Sad
Display port cable is plugged into the video card?
@@Gamingwithmatteo311 Yeah definitely. I have tried all of the 3 Display Ports on my 3090. I have tried 4 different positions for my lighthouses focused one my 2x2m "play area", in which the distance between the LHs varies from 6 to 3,6m. The heights also varied from 2,4m and 1,5m. I have also tried covering my monitor and glass panel side of the PC with a towel, yet it kept doing it.
I have contacted Steam support regarding this issue, and funnily enough you were faster than them, heads off to you good sir, gotta leave a like and subscribe.
Anyhow, I'll prob just refund my kit and order a new one as I don't seem to be able to find the source of the issue.
Edit: I didn't step on or crush the cable ^^
@@KhornyGuy cable can be loose on the headset side or the powers supply is bad. Valve will get it sorted
So valve support said it may be the cable‘s fault and I should try to re plug it on the headset itself. I did that , now it doesn’t work at all anymore ^^ I’ll be getting a new cable now. If anyone else has this issue, just hit up valve for a new cable.
Valve needs to disect the original oculus touch controllers and see how they made a controller that can take such a beating and still work amazing I mean I still have both my wife and my rift cv1 units with touch controllers and we haven't had anything go bad at all. I did purchase an extra cable for backup yes ago but haven't used it yet. The cv1 was a tough SOB hahaha