Box Prime 9 Components upgrade on the Bronson
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Welcome back viewers. Today we will be talking about the Prime 9 from Box Components. Seth from Seth's Bike Hacks hooking up the Bronson with a sweet drivetrain up grade. I took it the Paris Mountain Enduro put on by Cane Creek. We also ran into Neko Mulally at the start of stage 3. Let's see how these new upgrades hold up to a good smashing.
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nice style on the slide out on the pavement lol... smooth
Sometimes I pick up chicks that way.
@@SteadySpin lmao
Rocking it as usual
Who's that Seth guy, seems nice.
He follows me around.
He talks well. He should start his own channel.
@@GUPlifting1 They're joking
@@chyu89 Yea... :)
find Seth at "Seth's bike hacks" hear on youtube.
man the quality of your videos has gone up so much lately! keep it up
Thank you so much for noticing. I’m going for it brother.
I like the tougher, less gears idea. But not super crazy about that camera angle 🤣. Super smooth cover up on the slide😎
Thank you sir.
When I ride tech lines I dislike modern 12 speed wide range drive trains. I feel like there's too big of jumps between the gears when you go from 10-51 with only 12 gears. 9 gears seam like it would be a nightmare! I'm switching to a 10-45 12 speed to tighten up the jumps!
I suck at slow Tec. So I’m on the other end. Big send s and broken collar bones. lol. If we are talking efficiency I agree the gaps are big.
It’s definitely a rad idea. I’m down with 9 speeds. Just not on such a big range. I’ve gotten my 12 speed to jump from flex when you’re really hammering. 😐
The Seth part watched like a 4am infomercial lol
Prime 9 seems like a solid choice
I got a full 7 minutes of him making you want to buy prime 9. Lol.
@@SteadySpin I heard many enough speeches from Seth about this I'm just waiting this to be realeased and being able to buy it for my new bike.
@@overlow91 did you try it
I think I might try the oval chainring to help with knee pain. glad to hear that it helps and its not just something different to have
Stay tuned for a better review and insight.
Interesting, didn't realize the range was the same, sounds like a great option!
Feels great
It's actually very similar to sram x01 specs, just not xd driver or 10 tooth small cog. It's also loooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaadddddddddddssssssssssssssss cheaper lol.
@@bananasstuff3344 I think you should rather compare it to nx, but yeah
@@hc7185 *I* think it's closer to x01
@@bananasstuff3344 in the video he has prime 9 two installed, which is about the same weight as nx, similarly priced, has the same range and both fit the standard Shimano freehub
Man I’ve been waiting for a solid review on prime 9. I hate my eagle setup. It’s too damn finicky and adjustments are a pain. I do wonder how prime 9 would work in Pisgah or Elijay. Is prime 9 noisy when on the 50 tooth? How does the clutch work, does it quiet the chain slap?
Let me get a few more rides in on it first.
Man.. 🤦🏻♂️ I've also been waiting for a good review on prime9 🙄
I've asked several times to box components. I think it's strange that no channel is reviewing it.. With all the other new products there's always like 10 channels talking about it directly..
I bought an oval chain ring 6 years ago no more knee pain
6 or 7 gears would be perfect for me
Im always braking chain
For real. I was braking chains every month to month and a half. I have not broken one going on 5 months.
Me left my bike to Seth
After one day
WOW A CARBON FRAME!!!
Maybe one day.
Would like to switch my 3x to a 1x with the Box 9 - is there a kit or different components I need to order?
Cranks and narrow wide chainring
Long-term review of Prime 9? Do they even still sell it?
They do. It’s in stock.
When less gears are more fun, why dont you have singlespeed on your Bronson? :D Just kidding
If I only rode park I would
I'm thinking of turning my old Fuji fitness bike into something a bit more gravel friendly. It currently has a 2X Shimano Sora drivetrain. I want to go with Box Prime 2. But what of the crankset? The Fuji currently has the stock Shimano Sora, 50/34T. Any recommendations on what to switch to that will work nicely with the Box 2 Prime 9? Thanks!
I’d take it to a shop and see what can be upgraded depending on the year.
2019 ending, when they tell you 1x11 is too much of "heart rate fine tuning" . nice otherwise
We aren’t looking to kill any KOMs.
I’m super interested in Prime 9 but can’t afford a whole new drivetrain when an 11sp shimano chain and cassette is pretty cheap. But still interested.
Stay tuned for long turn review.
I hate to admit it but my Shimano 11 seems smoother than my sram12. Going down is easier too because I can stab the lever with less precision.
brokenlegz yeah I’m not really interested in eagle unless it would come stock on a bike but a new bike is not in the cards for quite some time.
The next.xt and xtr is two down shifts and 4 up. And you can crank the shit out of it shifting and it won't miss. Step
@steadyspin does box still have that funky shifter or is it a regular push lever like all others? Great vid! If you love an oval chainring, check out pedaling innovations. Less knee pain, you push more from the hip, more power down.
Yes they have a regular shifter. New video I have a regular shifter for the 7 speed
Is that cassette a boat anchor? If it was designed for an e-bike then strength over weight was probably the priority. Coupled with the fact that the issue of weight is not addressed, it’s probably a little over-engineered strength-wise for a lighter non-electric MTB, but is more reliable
Pretty much what I need for these meat pistons I call legs. Havnt snapped a chain yet
More like "we gave you the single shifter because otherwise you destroy this drivetrain because of the big jumps on the last gears lol...."
Been holding up well but moved to a multi shift now.
Just spent a few months riding this groupset. The box2, it works great on the ebike (2020 kenevo) but I didn't like the clunkyness on my regular bike (2019 Cotic Rocket max) went back to 1x11 with the sunrace 11x50 cassette.cheers from Aotearoa NZ.
Good points
do you know if its lighter than a SRAM Xo1 or GX eagle?
about the same
What models of cranks can I use with this gear groupset? Except sram, because they don't fit my BB.
Any cranks work. You need a Shimano style rear hub
@@SteadySpin thanks you so much!
What chain are you using with the Prime 9 stuff?
The box 2 11 speed chain. But my box 1 has the black 9 speed chain with a gold quick link.
I think this would be THE setup I would really benefit from. I bet you in just about every video I've produced, you'll hear me 'click-click' multiple times when I gear up OR down. Kind of a hassle.
Let me get some rides in on it first. Good smashing before I say to much.
Hey. I've bent a couple a couple Sunrace 11-46 cassettes, so that's got me looking at a different solution. I remembered seeing Seth's Box 9 pre-launch video and then came across your review. My question is, do you think the Box 9 cassette is a more durable/bomb proof cassette vs others? I'm looking to get something that I can feel confident will not bend. Thanks for the video!
This thing is pretty rowdy. Some people talk weight but i'm more function and reliability. Review coming soon.
@@SteadySpin I agree. I'm not a racer, so I would rather have something a little heavier and durable than something light and fragile. Every bike is heavy when you're carrying it out of the woods. 😂
Also a good point.
Does any 9speed chain go with Box?
Haven’t had a issue. But I got you 15% off discount code and you can get one of their chains as well.
Is this okay for a heavy 330lb man?
Yes it is. The best combo is box 1 group with box 2 cassette. They test them on ebikes and I test them in Pisgah. I was tired of braking chains ⛓. Save you a few bucks and use my discount code.
Cool! I recently purchased and installed the Box 2-E 9 drivetrain that has the same range and single-shift shifter. It's riding great, but the clutch isn't very powerfull. I'm sure that was due to the difference in price points between the 2-E and the 1-E.
Totally agree and great feed back I can agree with. Clutch should be a set standard for the level of aggressive ridding.
As someone that also mashes gears, I'm very interested in getting my preorder on the GT. 👌
Go box 1
Steady Spin went box three. Bigger is better, right? 🙃
I knew that's what you were going to get.
Needed something strong
@@SteadySpin it was a good choice.
I have a 1 by 11 and it has a 46 tooth
not low enough for my knee issues
Ya that’s cool it has a 50 tooth on the 9 gear
No mention of the weight saving? think they are onto something here, i wouldn't miss the extra 3 gears.
If I am worried about weight I should poop more.
its about 200 grams heavier than an eagle xx1/xo. I think its even heavier than the boat anchor NX eagle cassette
@@ironwillbowman6402 360g < 620g ;)
you might not be, plenty of people are worried about wheel weight ;) i personally don't shred hard enough to notice lol
Ask seth to do a review on box prime 9 groupset
Lol
Big fan of the Box stuff! I have a Box “46” 11 speed cog on my Kona and it’s killer. I agree...more isn’t always better👊🏻👍🏻
In Missouri and Arkansas more is better with the hills we have to climb.
i agree
still have the same range
Guess I like the 3 year Shimano warranty.
Hey, is it compatible with Sram or Shimano chains?
THX!
Anything 9 speed
@@SteadySpin thanks dude.
How do you like that prime 9 now?? I have exact bike u got but blue one... the gx eagle wore out chain and cassette after only 400 miles im a 240lb rider so im sure that had something to do with it but how do you like that 9 speed
This is there drive train meant for us brother. No issue at all with it. It’s the box e drove train. I can mash as large as I want. I even made the mistake of having a 12 speed cassette when I traded wheel. It didn’t even skip at all. I looked down and couldn’t figure out why I could not go into the last ring. Again never had a shift issue. Pretty wild. It’s been two months and not even close to a issue has come up.
Steady Spin sweet im gonna get one possibly soon
Just ordered the box one prime 9 to go on my new wheels im getting. Btw that oval chainring was the first thing i got my bronson when i got it. Makes climbing a breeze
So the Box Two E9 and P9 in single shift setup are identical?
Nope. The E9 is single. P9 is triple shift
Steady Spin you can buy P9 in single shift or multi
Have you really put a climb in on it yet? That's something I would like to know cause I really like that granny gear for the climbs around here. If it climbs just as good then I could see that putting to bed the need and want for a 12 speed.
Havnt even thought about any of the gears missing. The tapping it different but there is also 3 less gears to shit and still have the 50.
@@SteadySpin and you said the 9th gear is the same size as the 12th right?
@@LiftedAdventures this is the gearing for the cassette 11 • 13 • 15 • 18 • 22 • 28 • 34 • 42 • 50 I've run through the gears just to see the crispness. I do notice the jumps sometimes only because they are bigger due to "lack of gears" but once you've ridden enough with it and you get used it the new drivetrain there's no difference
@@endebtedone that's so awesome.
How do you like the one push one gear shifter? I ordered both the single and multi shift
With the gaping I think the single shift makes me not tear up my bike because I have no self control
With the gaping I think the single shift makes me not tear up my bike because I have no self control
I wish they woulda done 10 speed, 11-46 be perfect.
9 is enough
@@SteadySpin I know thats the modo and I do agree that 12 is to much for a 10/11-50 range, I'm constantly sifting 2-5 gears at a time, but I think a 10-51 10 speed would be perfect.
If you can you should change your logo from rho (D) you to MTB you
Hhhhmm. What would the logo be ?
Same logo but not of your Lycra chest
Totally agree with the idea that less is more when it comes to gears. I'm going to "downgrade" to 9spd. :)
Exactly!
Great vid Kev! Looked like you had a lot of fun!
But, I couldn’t wait to swap out my Box two prime 9! Had it for a year so gave it a good go. Now I’m on a shimano 12 speed and oh boy! What a difference. Back to sweet shifting gears! Sorry dude.
Glad you found something that works for you.
I think we would all love the discussion more in depth about an oval chain ring. I have yet to find anyone able to clearly tell me the differences. Great content and please keep it coming!
I will be going more in depth about it.
Oval rings give you a more consistent pedal stroke without the power spikes at the top of each stroke. Helps a lot when climbing techy sections. Especially when slick roots are involved. Once you ride with oval a few times, you will not notice the difference. But, go back to a round ring an I almost guarantee you will miss your oval and realize the benefits. I have been riding ovals for the past four-five years. I have run Absolute Black, Wolftooth, and currently run OneUp with the Switch carrier. Make sure to check chainring compatibility with your frame, as an oval 32t requires more clearance than a round 32t. The only worry that I have is that oval rings may wear out your clutch deraileur a bit faster since your pulley cage is constantly being pulled back and forth as the chain passes over the changing shape of the oval, as opposed to the consistent shape of a round ring. I usually bash a deraileur before this happens, so, no way for me to really tell. If you are unsure, grab a @oneupcomponents switch carrier and you can swich back and forth , in a minute, or so, to your hearts content.
Nice video. I’ve been thinking this since I got my NX 1x11. Don’t get me wrong, I like it, but I feel like I am almost always double clicking to upshift or downshift.
Here is your answer !
What action cam do u use?
7 black. Stuntman chest harness
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@@SteadySpin u reply me thank you so so so so so must I m big fan of your friends also
I've been wondering about a box 9 speed... Kinda sold me on it for my HT
Make sure to tell them Steady Sent you
Try shimano..get a 11 or 12 speed. Wouldnt use this for xc.
Maybe with a double spiders at the front😁
You know anybody that runs a single speed
@@SteadySpin I've been running shimano 1x9 for more than 5 years. Works great (especially with the added extender link) and is cheap to replace (chain, derailleurs etc). However, I don't know if it would be a good choice for a racer
Sweet!I saw that the other day on your Bike at Bailey and meant to ask you about it!
I will need a few more rides in before I can say
What gears were you running before Prime 9?
Eagle gx
I have 11-speed and 12-speed drivetrains on my bikes and I rode 1x10 for a long long time. I prefer 1x11 as it has enough range and gears for climbing, but not as heavy as the 1x12
Good points
Can't believe I didn't see this before. Great choices on the drivetrain Steady! I'm building up a killer Chromag hardtail this year and have the Ti-dyed eeWings and Hellbender BB and Headsets already, going to order the Helm coil and have the Box One Prime 9 planned as my drivetrain. Love that chainring too, might have to get in touch with CC to get one for the build. Take care of those knees Robocop! And keep the great content coming!
Hell yeah. Make sure to use the discount codes and save brother. The eeWings are so nice
You're a (former?) roadie, right? I'm also one of those pricks and I'm concerned that I would feel as though I'm not getting all the effeciency- dafuq do you spell that- efficiency- there, got it- that you get with more gears. Am I tard?
As a Roady you want to be in the perfect gear for those long pulls. That doesn’t happen in mountain biking. The terrain changes to much and in the downhill you coast.
Dope man happy you went with the Prime 9 ... that is so the way for you ... heck even maybe me when I kill off this trash Sram eagle drive trail
This locks you hard. back the truth of push harder and stop thunking so much
Meanwhile, us peasants are stuck waiting till February for our box 9 stuff!!
i fear braking something
@3:06 Crashes...
"Hey guys" like a boss 😎😅
Dude, love your videos...
Keep em comin 👌🤗
Thanks bud.
Sick! I want to try this box.
It’s rad
Man the kronchiness of your gears in previous videos points to this being a solid choice especially on the single click system. Don't really see a down side, just bang shift it like a dirt bike and haul, lol. I really want to try the oval chain ring myself, that much of a difference?
It made a huge difference for my knee
😬 Another rider goes to oval? So it's NOT bs? 🤔 Glad it's good for your knee!
I thought it was bs for sure. Always said it when I road bikes. But with a. Bad knee it feels so good. Which mean it doesn’t hurt my knee
This is awesome, I’m settled on buying a Bronson AL and I’ve been so interested in a Box Prime 9. This video was super helpful!!
Make sure to you my discount codes to save
*Heavy when full*Excellent !! Made mywife very happy !!
Great to hear!
I run an 8-speed 11-40 cassette, 8speed drivetrain. The best!
Nice.
I like my 11 speed, but would I miss the other two gears? Nah, probably not. Trying to convince my friend to do this setup with his Giant.
you don't miss the gears because you have the range in the gears provided. these are the gears on the cassette 11 • 13 • 15 • 18 • 22 • 28 • 34 • 42 • 50
Box 1
Im also always clicking a few times. As long as the needed range is available, which it is, it seems like a great simpler setup.
go box 1
Ran 7 gears for the last 5 years or so and just gon onto a 11 speed set up, been looking at making up my own 9 speed for a while now, this looks great, maybe give it a go once the 11speed bites the dust
Great plan. I just had killed my eagle Gx and Seth said he had me. Perfect timing.
Great video! Might be upgrading to a prime nine in the future
stay tuned, might get a discount code
*cries in 7 speed freewheel*
would be tough
Staple chick is hot
I do my best
I do my best
Great video, as always.
I don't think Prime 9 will suit me, but it doesn't mean it own't suit others, but I might need to try it for my self, maybe they tweaked it just right, cus I am using all of the gears with 11T, and new bike went to 11-50T so now I think I might have the best combo I can have right now.
I squeeze in that extra lighter gear, that extra heavier to get just little bit faster, I just made it as efficient as I could, I am changing gears a lot too. But I don't think I need any more gears, nor less, but maybe I could do with less, if it was perfectly tweaked, but I did not want to risk it and end up with something I might to like, so I went for 11spd, but I can always try Prime 9 at later point.
but a thing concerning me is the B screw/bolt, the angle and position is not optimal, so I turn it all the way in, I now know the issue is not my Trek Fuel EX, cus I tested the new Box rd and both on my fuel ex and on my G1, same thing on both. but cus the body is forged it probably will hold up and not get the threads ruined and bent bolt, but I will see how the hanger will do with the bolt only touching it halfway. as seen in this pic: flic.kr/p/2hUmCvJ but previous version did eat the hanger.
I’m no Macanic. But don’t let the the gear clog your head. MTB is about fun .
@@SteadySpin of course, not gonna drive myself mad, 😂 little by little and not all at the same time, but next is helmet, I have been researching it but so little info on helmets, and my requirements are so high. Iwth most things I got all annoying stuff and issues solved, not its time for helmet hunting.
@@SteadySpin my new bike will allow me to have more fun, seems like I made the right choices, coil so no air pressure to worry about, proper components only thing I wish I had was better engagement, but as it is bike is nice to ride, gonna see how BikeYoke Divine dropper will do so far first impressions are good. I did not fet New wheels and other new stuff cus I did not want use something I did not know what to get, but maybe later Onyx hubs look like a smart idea, but for now I will stick with Hope pro4.
Prime 9 makes so much sense to me!
gears are always there for you
Get an e bike and have more fun!
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@@SteadySpin so you're on board! I love mine! Kind of expensive. But just about the same as a dh bike. Except the kenevo! Thars 8gs!
Harold Adams anyone would be onboard for anything If it were free :)
Very interested in this prime 9 for my son bike.
Makes it way more simple with a single push shifter for kids
has anyone had issues with the box three shifter slipping the cable tenson???
I have not. Hhhmmm. Maybe lube the housing
I completely agree with the having to push multiple times to skip multiple gears, I think i might go 9 speed :)
Did you ever go 9 speed ?
Box 3 prime nine is back ordered to February :( guess no riding until then
lets hope they get them out faster
Interesting, we had Box as a sponsor on one of the teams I was on and I was not satisfied with the other drivetrain set ups but this looks like it works great
Is go box 1 for the least chance of issue. But that every company with options.
Nice! I was excited to see this video. I want to make the switch to the Box 9 for the same reasons. Thanks for the great content once again!
You are welcome. Thanks for all the support
A 3-6 month review would be appreciated Steady, getting some extended time on the Box system
For sure. Already found some goods and bads
Nice!.... With that said i'm pretty happy with my shimano 10 spd.
I never broke 10 speed chains.
U guys stumbled in to seth is got to be awesome to share some knowledge with him. 👏👏👍👍
Me and Seth go back before RUclips.
Sick. I want to try prime 9 in a hardtail build. Are you going to put cane creek suspension on this beast?
Did you catch the last 10 seconds of the video?
Steady Spin left the comment before that
I'm thinking of getting me a Tallboy or a Bronson. Big ass investment but worth it I'd say.
Depends on what type of riding you do most or what you like doing the most
Steady Spin These days I'm more in to walking as my bike was stolen recently. However, I'll soon be back on the saddle and gnar.
Looking forward to the Cane Creek coil review 🤘😎🚴
She . sends real good
I am liking that 9 speed! I have always thought there were to many gears.
I don’t miss the 3 at all. I’m just out riding my bike as usual.
I’m looking forward to trying the Prime 9. I don’t use half the gears I have now!
It’s crazy how much I don’t even miss the gears. Don’t even notice.
you dont have to wait for Prime9 to be back in stock in Feb2020 you can get the E-bike version and upgrade the shifter when they are back in stock. I have the E-bike drivetrain on my fat bike and I honestly dont miss the multi shift mostly due to the lack of gear options but the gear range.
Hey what was the song in the background during the race?
Epidemic sounds
It’s really interesting that on Bobo’s channel your really crazy and energetic but your more calm on this channel
Bobo has a rowdy channel. I try to be a bit more PG on my own channel
Bobo has a rowdy channel. I try to be a bit more PG on my own channel
Ahhhhh thats me shouting "STEEZY!" at 4:54! You were rippin dude cool vid
Thanks bro. Trying to get better. I need to get some fitness back.
Sweet
Been Thinking about a oval for my hardtail 🤘and now definitely box 9
Good plan
Get an AbsoluteBlack
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Sent both comment
Prime nine is the best!! Get it bud
It’s awesome
Im tryng to find in Europe, any idea where to get one?
try wiggle.com or chainreactioncycles.com
both based in UK
Thanks.
Is it XD driver or Shimano Hg?
Hg
Thanks I appreciate the response
Digging the upgrades!
thanks bud
Good video
thanks brother
Thanks for this. I was looking for an 11, but now i'm set on the 9
use steadyspin discount code on your first purchase. save you some bucks
Yeahhh dude!
Thanks
Never buy anything from Box Components. They do not honor their warranties. My shifter broke during the warranty period. I submitted a warranty claim to be told that they had phased out the 11 speed line. They offered 30% off a new groupset or advised me to buy a Shimano 11 speed shifter. So they wanted me to spend more money with them or another company to honor their own warranty. Don’t waste your time on Box, find another company that actually stands behind their products.
Warranty and not making a product any more are different things.
@@SteadySpin Not when one causes the other. If Box decided to no longer produce the Prime 9 and yours broke within the warranty period and they did not replace it, would you say they honored their warranty?
@@tinivations what do you think 🤔 is the answer ?
@@SteadySpin Box told me that a part breaking within the warranty period and also being discontinued was a rare occurrence. Since it is rare, I would think they would do whatever it took to get me riding a functioning Box drivetrain. Something like, working with their suppliers to have an 11 speed Shimano shifter shipped to me, or having me return my 11 speed drivetrain in exchange for the Prime 9 that they now only support. Unfortunately, they didn't suggest any of these, and the only options they provided involved me spending more of my own money to get my 11 speed drivetrain to work or purchase a Prime 9 at a 30% discount. I ultimately, decided to no longer represent Box on the trails. I sold my Box 11 speed parts and bought the Microshift AdventX drivetrain. I hope by sharing my experience with fellow riders that Box will either change their policy or loose future business from riders who have read about my experience and decide to go with a non-Box drive train.