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[Inductor-Recorded Traction Motor Sound モハラジオ録音] NYC Subway R142A/R143/R188 [ADtranz/Bombardier]

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  • Опубликовано: 24 июн 2021
  • #モハラジオ #TractionMotorPWMSound #NYCSubway
    Car Type: New York City Subway R142A, R143, R188
    (The sound used in this video is from R143.)
    Traction: ADTranz/Bombardier 2-Level IGBT-VVVF
    PWM Pattern:
    Asynchronous (250 Hz - 500 Hz) → Advanced PWM (2 Steps) → 3P → Wide 3P → 1P
    Sound Characteristics:
    These cars have a type of sound often heard in traction systems for the U.S. market, manufactured between the transition from ADtranz to Bombardier. Basically, it is the same as the MBTA Type 8 cars (which I posted last time), and the advanced pulse modes numbered (1) and (2) in this video also correspond to those in the previous video.
    • [Inductor-Recorded Tra...
    However, for NYC Subway cars, there is a momentary interruption in the early stages of asynchronous modulation where the carrier frequency rises. All car models had this kind of behavior every time during the recording. This is a behavior that cannot be seen in other manufacturers' traction system, but what kind of control is being performed here?
    * The AC traction PWM sound shown in this video is recorded by a sensor which is placed on the floor of a train car near its traction motor. This sensor is made by myself just using a 100mH inductor.
    * Due to the resolution of the spectrogram software, the frequency displayed in this video may include some error. Thank you for your understanding.
    * This sound is recorded in March 2019.
    * Sorry, I am NOT taking requests for recordings.
    Posted by Ebara Express
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Комментарии • 112

  • @ebaraexpress7260
    @ebaraexpress7260  2 года назад +35

    There are many requests for R179, but sorry I wrote that I won't take any requests, since I'm living in Japan and it's hard to record on demand.
    However, my fellow already recorded R179, so please watch this.
    ruclips.net/video/YdLZXc3GEX4/видео.html

    • @Goofy1trainofficial
      @Goofy1trainofficial Год назад +1

      PTA R152?

    • @bilibili-xiaoyan
      @bilibili-xiaoyan 6 месяцев назад

      如果您实在看不懂,就请用翻译软件将中文翻译成日文吧 もし本当に分からないなら、翻訳ソフトで中国語を日本語に翻訳してください。

    • @bilibili-xiaoyan
      @bilibili-xiaoyan 6 месяцев назад +1

      我们最近做了许多新式的 モハ レヂオ recorder
      我想让您买一个,看看是否易用
      私たちは最近新しいモハレヂオ recorderをたくさん作りました使いやすいかどうか、一つ買ってもらいたいのですが。

    • @ebaraexpress7260
      @ebaraexpress7260  6 месяцев назад

      @@bilibili-xiaoyan OK let me contact you in bilibili later today

    • @bilibili-xiaoyan
      @bilibili-xiaoyan 6 месяцев назад

      @@ebaraexpress7260 I think we shoud chat on youtube because the bilibili's server time not same as Japan so I will receive your message after 1-2hours

  • @comically_largesponge
    @comically_largesponge Год назад +9

    1:18 why does it sounds cool

  • @vibinzey
    @vibinzey 2 года назад +12

    1:24 now thats clean

  • @TheSearleFamily123
    @TheSearleFamily123 Год назад +10

    Actually the modulation pattern is Async (250-500Hz→500Hz→500-300Hz→300-310Hz)→11P(SHE)→7P(SHE)→3P→W3P→1P (SHE stands for Select Harmonic Elimination mode).

    • @PmtaROBLOX
      @PmtaROBLOX Год назад

      why does it go from 500HZ to 300HZ and back to 310HZ instead of just switching right to 11P(SHE)

    • @TheSearleFamily123
      @TheSearleFamily123 Год назад

      @@PmtaROBLOX That again is a byproduct of how the software has been programmed.

    • @domtom128
      @domtom128 Год назад

      Noob here :). Can you recommend some learning materials about these pulse modes and what does it mean that the PWM is async or sync?

    • @TheSearleFamily123
      @TheSearleFamily123 Год назад +1

      @@domtom128 Asynchronous is where it makes that wave by changing how long it pulses for between 0 and 100% but those pulses are entirely fixed or only partially moving as the wave speeds up. Synchronous is where there's a set number of pulses that are fixed to the output wave.

  • @LinxFox
    @LinxFox 3 года назад +13

    This is awesome
    Too bad the Montreal Metro MR-63's are gone, would be awesome to hear those unique motors they had in this way.

    • @richiegarcia2819
      @richiegarcia2819 2 года назад

      Is this the GO Train Fox I see?

    • @LinxFox
      @LinxFox 2 года назад

      @@richiegarcia2819 It is!

    • @BurnedNoodle
      @BurnedNoodle 2 года назад +1

      only 3 cars had that specific sound. none of the others did.

  • @xpdev0
    @xpdev0 8 дней назад +1

    1:01 This is 161st Street - Yankee Stadium
    Transfer is available to the (B) & (D) trains
    Transfer is available to the Bx12 Select Bus Service

  • @transitcity
    @transitcity 3 года назад +79

    Wow how did you get soo deep into the propulsion sound?

    • @ebaraexpress7260
      @ebaraexpress7260  3 года назад +34

      I use an inductor (100 mH), a TRRS cable, and an IC recorder.
      I record these sounds by putting this on a train car's floor just above its traction motor.

    • @Simulation101YT
      @Simulation101YT 3 года назад +1

      @@ebaraexpress7260 Hi there, was looking to do the same thing. Just searched up on E.bay for a 100mH inductor. The results came up as a 2 metal pin LED-looking thing. Is this correct? Also with the TRRS cable, it looked like an AUX headphone jack with another port. Just to make sure are these the right things?
      Thanks in advance.

    • @ebaraexpress7260
      @ebaraexpress7260  3 года назад +4

      @@Simulation101YT Hello, maybe both are OK!
      In UK, there are many aluminum cars, and it would be hard to catch the traction sound from them. The other noises would disturb that, but conversely this might be the sign of the recorder working correctly. Good luck!

    • @doge4798
      @doge4798 3 года назад +1

      Hey messiah im a fan but yea why R142A is crazy?

    • @4ztfr
      @4ztfr 2 года назад +2

      WOAH ITS MESSIAH

  • @makuhari485
    @makuhari485 2 года назад +1

    ありがとう!!!!これを待っていた!!!!
    日本から

  • @TheSearleFamily123
    @TheSearleFamily123 3 года назад +3

    OK, so what's up next? I can tell you this now (I couldn't have told you before) that the actual sounds (apart from the different pitches, which relate to the transistor technology) are to do with how the motor is pulsed; it's the VVVF drive pulsing out an artificial AC wave from a DC supply. The motor is usually 3 phases, and overhead AC supplies are only single phase, so the transformer when on that voltage is AC-DC-AC. If the overhead wires or conductor rails are DC, then the transformer will just be DC-AC.

  • @BJMediaTransit8516
    @BJMediaTransit8516 Год назад

    This sound is also the propulsion of the MBTA Green Line’s Type 9 fleet, and for fleet on MARTA.

    • @EpicThe112
      @EpicThe112 11 месяцев назад

      To be exact the Type 8s MBTA Green Line B,C & D Branches Kenmore stop which is home to the Boston Red Sox the rival of 161st St Yankee Stadium NY Yankees AL East. This might get interesting if TTC Union Station T1s AL East Blue Jays have the same propulsion

  • @marknicholsaviationplanesp8840
    @marknicholsaviationplanesp8840 Месяц назад

    1:18 it almost sounds like the A320 FOPP howl

  • @peterwan小P
    @peterwan小P 2 года назад +3

    how did you make these sounds???? is it recorded??? how can this be so clear and unlike how it sounds like in train like the Sp1900 in HK with the Mitsubishi IGBT-VVVF motors

  • @jakubhanak41
    @jakubhanak41 3 года назад

    R179 is next! Great job there

  • @jaydengreenberg9618
    @jaydengreenberg9618 2 года назад +1

    0:12 it sounds like a race car

  • @marknicholsaviationplanesp8840
    @marknicholsaviationplanesp8840 Месяц назад

    1:17 sounds like a A320 FOPP listen closely

  • @MrMurdoom
    @MrMurdoom 15 дней назад

    I stumbled across this and have no idea how or why. and I have no idea what's happening lol

  • @jerrythemouse28
    @jerrythemouse28 2 года назад +2

    Same sound as MBTA Green Line Type 8 and MARTA Trains

  • @domtom128
    @domtom128 Год назад +1

    Interesting video. Noob here :). Can you recommend some learning materials about these pulse modes and what does it mean that the PWM is async or sync?

  • @MetroShadow1
    @MetroShadow1 3 года назад +3

    Loud as a BART train. 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @markkerr7059
      @markkerr7059 2 года назад +1

      correct 🤣

    • @minecraft_javjavatonkoonca8109
      @minecraft_javjavatonkoonca8109 2 года назад

      @is fail the rail of jr train yes fucking loud like bart train 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂

    • @TheSearleFamily123
      @TheSearleFamily123 2 года назад

      Go watch North Texas Rail & Elevator's video to find out.

  • @Qball10
    @Qball10 3 года назад +1

    You should do one of these on the bay area rapid transit old and new cars.

  • @thicclasagna
    @thicclasagna 2 года назад

    Has a similar-ish sound like the Siemens Desiro ML EMUs used here in Austria, well the start that is

    • @EpicThe112
      @EpicThe112 11 месяцев назад

      You mean the ÖBB Baureihe 4744-4748 fleet?

  • @EthanF175
    @EthanF175 Год назад +2

    what is the hz for the multi pulses, can you please tell a chart or something

  • @marknicholsaviationplanesp8840
    @marknicholsaviationplanesp8840 Месяц назад

    1:17 listen

  • @Xaliazxy
    @Xaliazxy 3 года назад

    Wow good take bro

    • @Xaliazxy
      @Xaliazxy 3 года назад +1

      Maybe next u can do the jubilee line 1996 stock I'd love to hear it since it hasn't been done before
      So yh please do it

  • @abdullaharif6455
    @abdullaharif6455 Год назад

    Sounds just like MARTA trains!

  • @mccabeteems4587
    @mccabeteems4587 6 месяцев назад

    so awesome

  • @RentsTheHuman
    @RentsTheHuman 3 года назад +4

    Can u do r179 pls?

  • @trainluvr
    @trainluvr 10 месяцев назад

    Smahshing!

  • @jerrythemouse28
    @jerrythemouse28 2 года назад

    Similar to the Siemens traction system noise

  • @TIBU-gt7zn
    @TIBU-gt7zn 2 года назад +2

    Hi, is it possible to do Singapore’s C151 GTO Chopper traction sound

  • @alishamcdonald7316
    @alishamcdonald7316 Год назад +1

    0:06

  • @terminatormkii6354
    @terminatormkii6354 Год назад

    This train is bound for HE Holmes station

  • @ItsDuckToYou
    @ItsDuckToYou 2 года назад +1

    Where was this recorded at bc the L goes really really fast in all sections

  • @JonasLora-wx6ml
    @JonasLora-wx6ml Месяц назад

    Pls do R211 R188 and R68

  • @marknicholsaviationplanesp8840
    @marknicholsaviationplanesp8840 Месяц назад

    1:16

  • @zeraneko
    @zeraneko 3 года назад

    サンフランシスコのBARTの一部編成にも、この変調のがありますね

    • @ebaraexpress7260
      @ebaraexpress7260  3 года назад +1

      はい、数あるこのタイプの中でBARTのみ少しだけキャリア周波数が高そうですね(525Hzくらい?)

    • @TheSearleFamily123
      @TheSearleFamily123 2 года назад

      You'll have to watch North Texas Rail & Elevator's video to find out.

  • @GamerRobYT
    @GamerRobYT 3 года назад +3

    Can you do the Lirr M7

    • @_ford_crown_victoria_p
      @_ford_crown_victoria_p 2 года назад

      He lives in Japan not New York

    • @LIRRFAN426
      @LIRRFAN426 2 года назад +1

      He also states that he is not taking requests

    • @TheSearleFamily123
      @TheSearleFamily123 2 года назад

      It was on Twitter once, but then unfortunately that account got deleted.

  • @polishwater4884
    @polishwater4884 3 года назад

    YES

  • @benjaminpedi9122
    @benjaminpedi9122 2 года назад

    Same sound as MBTA green line trains

  • @Parzival957
    @Parzival957 2 года назад

    Damn!!!!!

  • @KingofGamingAndTrains456
    @KingofGamingAndTrains456 27 дней назад

    How did u do this?

  • @thebigtrainguy
    @thebigtrainguy 3 года назад

    Please do the class 390 and class 323

  • @doge4798
    @doge4798 3 года назад

    R142A is dangerous train on roblox

  • @markkerr7059
    @markkerr7059 2 года назад

    please do a bart train if you can

    • @TheSearleFamily123
      @TheSearleFamily123 2 года назад

      Go watch North Texas Rail & Elevator's video to find out.

  • @RahulRailways
    @RahulRailways 2 года назад

    😍😍

  • @antoineyoung36
    @antoineyoung36 2 года назад

    that almost sounded like BART

    • @TheSearleFamily123
      @TheSearleFamily123 2 года назад

      Go watch North Texas Rail & Elevator's video to find out.

    • @antoineyoung36
      @antoineyoung36 2 года назад

      ive seen the vid. the propulsion of BART nearly sound the same as some of the NYC subway rolling stocks but its pitch is a little bit different

  • @R142AFilms
    @R142AFilms 3 года назад

    Can you do R179

  • @gazmendkrasniqi5938
    @gazmendkrasniqi5938 2 года назад

    So r179

  • @gazmendkrasniqi5938
    @gazmendkrasniqi5938 2 года назад

    Do r179

    • @ebaraexpress7260
      @ebaraexpress7260  2 года назад

      Sorry, I wrote that I won't take any requests, since I'm living in Japan and usually busy.

    • @TheSearleFamily123
      @TheSearleFamily123 2 года назад

      Go watch error46147's video to find out.

  • @viciadoemdorflex
    @viciadoemdorflex 3 года назад

    E231 1000 please *-*

    • @ebaraexpress7260
      @ebaraexpress7260  3 года назад

      Okay, here's the recorded one.
      ruclips.net/video/3NLbD0XvJxE/видео.html
      Plus, here's the reproduced one.
      ruclips.net/video/mgxlM_kiDL0/видео.html

  • @NSE465
    @NSE465 3 года назад +1

    T8 reupload.

    • @NSE465
      @NSE465 3 года назад

      @@grand.central different but close enough

  • @MoskitoGirl
    @MoskitoGirl 2 года назад

    Kids