Those Stalactites are a previous delam repair. Normally you'd only drill through the glass and inject resin to reattach it to the foam. They obviously got a bit carried away!
indeed! Dunno why the refurb guys paint all over old boards... If it's watertight, the old repairs showing through the polished glassing make them gorgeous.
As a sander / polisher of 43 years, try putting less edge on both your power pad as well as the lamb wool. Also, you might want to invest in a hook and loop DA sander.
I wonder...just musing out loud here. The historical value of a board like that is in the foam shape, not necessarily the fiberglass (and the lousy repairs over the years). My thinking would be to take it back to the foam and re-glass; maybe keeping the original logo panel. But I also get the point of preserving all the history, too.
I rarely use filler and saw foam windows that are reshaped and glassed .It takes a bit of time but much lighter and flexible . Also you can fill with 8 pound polyester pour foam . Next time weigh the board before and after .Love to see that . I weigh my customers wax balls too and send them the weight lol . One guy had a pound of wax on his board . I just have found all that resin filler deadens the board .All in All You did a good job .
Harbor Freight man 👍. Thanks for the video. About to take off the deck of a Zippy fish. I’m going to try this technique to salvage the orig glass. It’s got a nice tan😎
Bruh, you really need to make a small investment in a vacuum bagging rig. One other tip if you're trying to fill missing foam is to use lightweight spackle, once dry it has the same properties of styrofoam. I use for when I making repairs to foam gliders.
Hey dude! Not much you can do for pressure dings. I actually prefer the concave shape a surfboard deck gets over time from pressure dings (at least under my front foot).
Same goes for dents on the bottom as well I assume? Pressure dents on the deck comes with the surfing, but on the other side of the board it impacts board performance, not so appreciated. 😢
Mate, a few years back we had a G&S in a very similar state. I thought that if I were to redo that job ( similar to this work your doing), that I might cover the whole board with Pigment, then polish. Have you seen any of the restorations done by Randy Rarick? His restores sell for top money at auctions.
Looks like a previous delam repair where they drilled holes into the foam and either poured/injected resin or used wood dowels dipped in resin. Obviously the delam needed to be completely removed and reglassed
When adding that layer of fiberglass cloth. What was ur process of resin? Did u do laminating then the surface agent? What did u add after to sand it down
Laminating, no additives at first, I use very coarse sandpaper (36 grit grinding disk) to feather the edges. Once the edges are feathered, you can sand with 120 grit without it gumming up
@@Rogue_wave Has modern rails. probably mid 1980's with that yellowing and old looking dings. Very glossy now but makes all the dents show, 400 wet rub may have looked better. Hope it was lightweight originally, otherwise it could be too heavy and unresponsive now. Love all the gear you have.
Excuse me, what is that white stuff? I need repairing a badly delaminated second hand board I just got, not yet learned how to surf. self learner, self repairer. the backend of the board is slip and exposes the foam. I only would like to use it a couple of seasons, so I am not expecting it to live very long, would would want to prevent water for getting in
ok what where u trying to do with this board. dewy webbers are actually quite a valuable board for collectors. can go for about 5 to 6 thousand fully restored just repairing the way you have has devalued the board those stalactites in the deck look Like someone has drilled then used liquid nails to try and fix the delam. this board should have had the entire glass removed with the decal carefully trimed so it can be re laminated onto a fresh volan glass job. removing excess rotting resin with a disk sander not that abortion of a dimel drill and never use a block sander on a curved rail if you expect a even finish.the foam then needs a clear lam resin coat with a paint roller to seal the foam then do a full trim lap glass job over the entire board placing the decals that you have previously sanded off very carefully back where u got them adding extra glass in low spots to evan out the deck and bottom. filler coat the entire board. then sand finish coat then dry cut back and buff to gloss. boards in this condition need restoration not repairs.
Those Stalactites are a previous delam repair. Normally you'd only drill through the glass and inject resin to reattach it to the foam. They obviously got a bit carried away!
Yes! A bit heavy handed with the drill I'd say...
man it never fails to fascinate me the way the fiberglass disappears as the resin soaks in.. it's like a magic trick :)
Preserving surfboard history one board at a time!
Glad you kept the character when you repaired it and didn’t just paint over it all. Awesome work and great video editing too
indeed! Dunno why the refurb guys paint all over old boards... If it's watertight, the old repairs showing through the polished glassing make them gorgeous.
I wish I saved all my old Aipa boards from the 80's x 90's...I would send them to you for restoration...Beautiful work!!
Would love to work on some original Apia’s!
@@Rogue_wave I still have my 1979 custom shaped Aipa nose rider that Ben Aips made ! No body shaped boards like Ben ...
It’s awesome that you give these classics a second life.
As a sander / polisher of 43 years, try putting less edge on both your power pad as well as the lamb wool. Also, you might want to invest in a hook and loop DA sander.
Thanks dude- appreciate that
I owned a Ben Aipa wing-sting-swallow in 1976=best board I ever surfed/ purchased.A makeover on that board would have been awesome.
I wonder...just musing out loud here. The historical value of a board like that is in the foam shape, not necessarily the fiberglass (and the lousy repairs over the years). My thinking would be to take it back to the foam and re-glass; maybe keeping the original logo panel. But I also get the point of preserving all the history, too.
Dewey Weber would be proud
So, there is still hope for my McCrystal 1990 9' board. Stored under the deck for the last 20 years.
You're happy with the performer✨☺️
Good job❗️😊👍
Great editing style, the natural sound is nice too
Thanks Saul!
Wow, great job dude. Looks amazing 🤙
Nice work man!!!
I rarely use filler and saw foam windows that are reshaped and glassed .It takes a bit of time but much lighter and flexible . Also you can fill with 8 pound polyester pour foam . Next time weigh the board before and after .Love to see that . I weigh my customers wax balls too and send them the weight lol . One guy had a pound of wax on his board . I just have found all that resin filler deadens the board .All in All You did a good job .
Pound of wax! I’ve seen a few boards like that haha. Thanks for watching!
Nice work,I need you to come to Florida.
Harbor Freight man 👍. Thanks for the video. About to take off the deck of a Zippy fish. I’m going to try this technique to salvage the orig glass. It’s got a nice tan😎
Right on good luck dude!
Use a heat gun to remove the fiberglass!!! Heat causes delamination of the glass from the foam.
super sick job man
Nice Job, classic board.
Those things where bad resin that someone thought would fix it nasty bro great work
Wow that board is cool man, love the look of the end result nice job!
So satisfying!
Thanks dude!
I found PVC pipes cut in half lengthwise, give good flex and still provide good strength to hold/conform the shape of the deck.
Nice! Going to try this thank you!
top notch repairs and much Love
Thanks Dino!
Superb!
What a transformation.
Bruh, you really need to make a small investment in a vacuum bagging rig. One other tip if you're trying to fill missing foam is to use lightweight spackle, once dry it has the same properties of styrofoam. I use for when I making repairs to foam gliders.
Good tips thanks Patrick!
Any tips or recommendations for fixing boards with a bunch of pressure dents on the deck (but not cracked glass)? That would be a super helpful video!
Hey dude! Not much you can do for pressure dings. I actually prefer the concave shape a surfboard deck gets over time from pressure dings (at least under my front foot).
Same goes for dents on the bottom as well I assume? Pressure dents on the deck comes with the surfing, but on the other side of the board it impacts board performance, not so appreciated. 😢
Dewey Weber 🏄💨
I drill holes in the glass and put gorilla grip in. It expands to fix the delames.
Why not pour resin over the foam instead of reusing the old laminate?
I clearly don’t know much…
You can tell the character of a man by what he can repair.
i know nothing about surfboards but should you fill the holes with expanding foam instead of solid filler
Curious why you don't use vacuum bagging on the glass layups.
I would just delaminate the whole board. Cut the foam away from those rotten (3) stringers and reshaped/re-glassed the whole board with new stringers.
Mate, a few years back we had a G&S in a very similar state. I thought that if I were to redo that job ( similar to this work your doing), that I might cover the whole board with Pigment, then polish. Have you seen any of the restorations done by Randy Rarick? His restores sell for top money at auctions.
No I haven’t checked out his work but I will! Thanks.
Looks like a previous delam repair where they drilled holes into the foam and either poured/injected resin or used wood dowels dipped in resin. Obviously the delam needed to be completely removed and reglassed
I agree with Rowe,
The stalactites can be from using a syringe to inject resin. I used to do it. It didn't work!
Are the stalagmites where they injected resin?
Suppose the owner tried to get rid of the moisture inside the core by drilling holes in it. Later used some epoxy to re-seal them
Where you. Located? Would love to take you my 9'10" Stewart
What's the ballpark on a repair like this. Ive got an old Wind an Sea from my in-laws that could use some lovin like this. In OC
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Man! That was cool. I got an old McTavish I made a squash tail and glass in a 60's fin. How much would that cost to complete? Thanks!
Sounds cool! Shoot me some photos
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When adding that layer of fiberglass cloth. What was ur process of resin? Did u do laminating then the surface agent? What did u add after to sand it down
Laminating, no additives at first, I use very coarse sandpaper (36 grit grinding disk) to feather the edges. Once the edges are feathered, you can sand with 120 grit without it gumming up
What were those things you took out? Mold? Someone said stalactite?? Others resin fills?
Yeah it was resin that the previous owner had injected into the board to try and fix the delam.
So what did you charge? I'm about to start a similar job?
This is a board I bought for a few hundred bucks on offer up so I fixed it for myself!
Inner tubes would be more efficient to hold that down
Brilliant idea.
👍👍👍
What was that thing you poured on the board to get that glass finish.
Surfboard Polish applied with a Lambs Wools Disk on the power sander at medium speed. High Speed will cause heat which will delaminate the board.
Looks as if someone added dowels to keep the delam down
If you don’t mind,
Me asking, how much did you charge the client?
This one wasn’t for a client, it was for personal use 🤙🏻
Board is not from the 60s. Its a modern contract built Dewey Weber from the 90s or early 2000s.
Thanks. How can you tell? I didnt think Jojo was shaping that late.
@@Rogue_wave Has modern rails. probably mid 1980's with that yellowing and old looking dings. Very glossy now but makes all the dents show, 400 wet rub may have looked better. Hope it was lightweight originally, otherwise it could be too heavy and unresponsive now. Love all the gear you have.
Is this cost-effective?
Depends if you have to pay someone to do it! If you DIY it sure is
What is the white fuzzy material that you first applied on the foam?
Qcell
Can I use polyester resin instead of that qcell?
And maybe that off the old fiber and put new one?
what grit are you using to wetsand at the end?
I wet sand from 300-1200
Excuse me, what is that white stuff? I need repairing a badly delaminated second hand board I just got, not yet learned how to surf. self learner, self repairer. the backend of the board is slip and exposes the foam. I only would like to use it a couple of seasons, so I am not expecting it to live very long, would would want to prevent water for getting in
Qcell and resin mixed together. Good luck!
Looks like someone drilled holes and injected resin.
Someone tried and failed to fix the delam once before.
To me those plug things looked like gorilla glue.
ok what where u trying to do with this board. dewy webbers are actually quite a valuable board for collectors. can go for about 5 to 6 thousand fully restored just repairing the way you have has devalued the board those stalactites in the deck look
Like someone has drilled then used liquid nails to try and fix the delam. this board should have had the entire glass removed with the decal carefully trimed so it can be re laminated onto a fresh volan glass job. removing excess rotting resin with a disk sander not that abortion of a dimel drill and never use a block sander on a curved rail if you expect a even finish.the foam then needs a clear lam resin coat with a paint roller to seal the foam then do a full trim lap glass job over the entire board placing the decals that you have previously sanded off very carefully back where u got them adding extra glass in low spots to evan out the deck and bottom. filler coat the entire board. then sand finish coat then dry cut back and buff to gloss. boards in this condition need restoration not repairs.
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