Respect for not throwing in the towel. I'm sure the end product didn't meet your standards but the fact that you stuck in their says a lot about your devotion. Good stuff!!! 🤙🏽
Some projects are just snake bit. One catastrophe after another. But how you bounce back from them is what counts. The primer costs and time fixing the subsequent delams may have blown your profit margin, but your honesty and transparency with this project should inspire tons of confidence with every prospective client. A terrific project to watch (if not to actually do). Thanks! Oh, and I'll can confirm the quality of work and service Boadlams provides. They transferred some custom art a friend of mine did for an Umalon board that came out amazing!
Painted an interior that was exactly that, thankfully the clients were amazing people and my general contractor wasn't a total jerk, but gave me the big brother treatment.
@drowsy5879 he stressed the cost of the board in his mind every time something went wrong and put the effort in to make it right. And it's my assumption that most people would respond the same way. But that being said each customer deserves the same care with their belongings. So he should treat a much cheaper board with just as much care. ( under my assumption that if the board was cheap someone would possibly let small imperfections slide ) and this experience should have taught him or anyone watching the importance of quality . It's not a perfect analogy but it's my hope that the moral learned is to respect and treat with care someone's property they are trusting you with regardless of what it is or how much it cost. And my saying nice job at the end was due to the top tier quality he performed in this video, but had nothing to do with the point I was making.
@@jackucthatjack5896 seriously?? I feel like it goes without saying, but this board is priceless of course he’s going to spend more time and effort on it. Not only because hes being payed more, but its also perfect for his resume AND THERES ONLY LIKE 8 OTHER BOARDS LIKE IT. It would be like me expecting you to drive my honda civic like my one of a kind Bugatti Chiron.. Like why would I expect you to drive around a speed bump while driving a civic? It would be a waste of time and slower so Id probably never have you drive any of my cars again.
@@jackucthatjack5896 If you are gonna take away something from the video you should recognize the customer expected the normal job that he does on every board, but obviously since this board was worth alot he went above and beyond. Instead of expecting people to go above and beyond for you. Expect what you paid for and be surprised if someone does extra for you..
35+ years of shaping, glassing and repair work. For fin removal use an oscillating multi-tool with a fine toothed, flush cut blade.......carbide preferably for longevity. A must have tool. When skinning a board, instead of angle grinder use sander at the apex of rails and sand until almost through cloth. Avoid hitting the foam. Finish the cut with a razor blade only cutting the cloth being careful not to get into the foam. Another method to peel a board is to blow it up like a basketball before grinding the rails. Compressed air will peel the glass pretty cleanly especially on the deck side. The less foam damage the better. Regarding your delamination issues. Resin and Q-cel for filler, not spackle. The less paint build up the better and let it dry completely between every coat. Always thin coats letting dry in between. If you apply the next coat too soon you've effectively trapped moisture underneath which will haunt you later. After final coat, let it dry twice as long as you think. A week in a very dry space wouldn't hurt. Resin hates moisture and is repelled by it. On a large area painted with red or blue in particular you have to pre-coat the board with lam resin before glassing. Squeegee it on thinly and evenly and make sure there are no drips. Some paints and some colors want to repel resin or react with the resin and crystalize. Precoating will reveal if you're going to have a crystallization issue before it breaks your heart when there is glass in play. If you get crystallization give a second thin coat of lam resin in that area before glassing. If you pre-coat both sides, use wax paper on the glassing racks to avoid lifting your paint from the foam when you flip. (I've learned that one the hard way) On your rails use bigger laps (an extra inch and a half of cloth all the way around) when going over a painted blank as the cloth doesn't seem to grip a painted blank like it does bare foam and keep a close eye on your laps until the resin kicks. Glossing glass on fin: No need to mask and do one side at a time. Sand to 80 grit and no finer. We want the resin to grip the fin and resist sagging. Fins side down in the racks and do both sides at once. Kick it hot and don't overload the resin on or it will sag. Lastly, know when to turn work away or refer a project to someone else if it is out of your comfort zone or something you've never done before. Cheers
Curious why you chose sparkling instead of, industry standard, Q-cel for the foam restoration. The sparkling might explain some of the laminating issues you had. Laminating with pigmented resin as opposed to painting the foam would help with fiberglass adhesion to the blank as well.
Agreed that was a very baffling choice and clearly the reason for all these problems. That filler was obviously reacting with either the paint or the resin. He should have done a resin skim coat to seal the foam. Another part that baffled me was that he did not do a one-to-one paper trace of all the graphics to ensure that the positioning of the replacements would be 100% spot on to the original. Less of a restoration and more of a recreation at this point....
@@DFMurray It seems like ding repair is his hobby & he’s still learning. A opportunity to do a ‘special’ restoration came to him & he did the best he could. Getting advice from his supply dealer would get him the right materials & lessen the chance of mistakes. The mistakes happen even when you do use the right materials. That’s just ding repair.
@@DFMurraythe yellow color difference on the part of the graphic that de-laminated and replaced was very noticeable and I feel bad it appears he displayed it that part exposed too.
As someone who's experience with fiber glass ends with a single boat deck. I think he did a pretty good job and Perfection is the enemy of good enough and that looks like a tough job.Since youre working with a really old weather baked foam core on a board thats designed to look at and theyre saying its worth a million dollars while also sun baking it for 60 years. As some one who also knit picks and beats himself up about my own work The eye and judgement are more harsh and keen.
In experiences of painting walls with vinyl/latex paints I noticed it has a tendency to delaminate, so if you later press on it, those areas crack and fall of the wall. The solution to remedy it is to dilute the paint with water and apply some thin coats before working upto pure paint. I know the paint and resin coatings on a board are very different things but perhaps there is some transferrable logic here?
Hey man, I just wanna say that watching your videos has taught me so much about board repair and gave me the confidence to step into doing larger repairs. And your ability to capture all this on video is really commendable. With all the prep and setup required for these repairs, filming them simultaneously is no small feat!
So frickin cool @ the end with your hand-off of those two original Baywatch surfboards to their owner, in like-new condition>>he obviously picked the right man for the job...beautiful craftsmanship...RIP Brock (Braddah will always be one of my favorite Hawaiian Big Wave 🌊 watermen)
Glad you didn't quit and came through. Loved the kitchen nightmares cringe sounds. Most of these delam possibilities have been mentioned, but I'll put em all in one place: bad yellowing foam with integrity/ density compromised, spackle should be fine as long as it was roughed up enough for mechanical adhesion, but the less the better; crystallisation from paint, especially thick, uneven coats that havent fully dried through; and then finally heat from excessive sanding. The trial and error is what is going to get you on the level of guys like Randy Rarick some day. Keep at it!
Gotta say first much respect to your craftsmanship.. Saying yes to the project would have paralyzed me w/ anxiety no doubt you got big balls, how do you surf w such big balls? Definitely run a moisture meter or before steps since spackle and paint were added.. on a million dollar board. I have to fin repairs i prepped and put aside almost a year ago.. maybe i do them now. much respect to you brother.. Why didnt they just have you make new boards so those could be in a museum if so imporrtant?
At what time wound you just make a new board, identical? The visible part of thr board is what it has value, you don't se the foam in the movie. Probably better to keep the original as it was an have a duplicate.
That's what I thought? Basically a brand new board was made with old foam. I guess that is what the customer wanted though. I think it would have been cool to make a replica and hang it side by side the original.
I quit my 9-5 to go into my passion for painting. I have a great mentor, but some skill gaps are present and i've ate crow a few times. Internally I have wanted to walk off the job and more often than not, worked 12hr days wondering why I couldn't be better. I'll never give this up and it's reassuring to see others go through similar experiences in other fields of work. Keep up the good work, I would be happy with that final product considering it's a restoration of a really weathered board.
I wasn’t having a day , but when you lost temper, I suddenly was not alone and I was sharing in your emotions that I know all too well. Thanks for the video. I’m going back out to the shaping shack now .
No matter how long you've been doing something, you're always gonna make mistakes. Sometimes several. A lot of the time, it has nothing to do with how skilled you are. Sometimes it just happens. You did right by identifying the issue, freaking out at a reasonable rate, fixing it, and moving on to the next step.
Am i stupid or does this just not seem like a "restoration" you basically just took everything off that made that board that board and then just built it with completely new parts ontop of the barebone. Might aswell have just replicated it.
I'm just curious, why didn't you do a coat of primer in the first place? In pretty much every house or automotive painting I've done, it's always common place to apply primer first. Is it just different for surfboards, or was it just an oversight?
Just wondering how many layers of glass did it take to get that board right? What a nightmare. Years ago I was restoring an old Porsche , got everything done, primed ready for paint and waiting for the right day , no wind , cool out and cloudy. Race home, mask off the car and shoot it out . Looks great! Wait a few hours before pulling the masking but the paint isn’t dry ! Wtf. Then I noticed I forgot to put the hardener in the paint ! Ya one of those moments ! Two gallons of lacquer thinner and dozens of rags to strip the car and start over. Last time I painted a car!
That was a master class in perseverance. I'm not a shaper myself, but I would have quit and got a job as a taxi driver after seeing the de-laminated tail - never mind the rails. Nice work!
"...hi Dave!...your vid just popped-up and I clicked straight away....I`ve been there and done that...but not and that scale!....I always say...Embrace The Struggle...great vid...!"😎🤙🌴
Nice job. I noticed the end of the Baywatch logo that you had to patch up was a different shade of yellow than the rest of the logo. Was that intentional? The 2nd board wasn’t like that.
it delaminated because u used to much primer and paint very common ( also the type of paint u use will also determine the out come )when the polyester or epoxy resin cant reach the foam and bond to cells of the foam ,, heating it up with you sanding pad removing the fin didn't help u out either ,, ,, why it went straight to the old foam after the delam,, ive learned this the hardway myself doing thousands of board builds and restorations in California and Hawaii in the last 45 yrs ,, Qcell was your answer from the beginning
Overall they look awesome, but, the hidden stringer makes me hitch. I would do whatever to have that stringer visible, specially in an older board like this. Not having a stringer just makes them look wrong. Also, as many have already mentioned: Q-cell and resin the whole thing = smoother base to work on and less issues with delams for sure.
Drywall spackle aka mud has moisture in it. This results in shrinkage and cracking as the moisture evaporates. Perhaps this might partially explain your delamination issues.
I like that Katin sweat shirt and the great job you did on the boards. It's hard to believe that these boards are worth so much money. I wonder how much you charged. Lot's of work was done on these.
We've all been there, I've had customer cars that have been a pain since day one and no matter how much of your own time and money you work into it to get it right it will still be wrong. Unfortunately these problems do occur sometimes
With that much spray, I would not be surprised if the entire thing delams if the boards ever get warm, at least you know that foam is done degassing. Did you use fin rope for glassing the fins? Also, why not either tint the resin or spray the lam coat as opposed to spraying the foam.
So, is such result of restoration expected? As I see how those boards looks in a movie, they have semi matte finish and smooth reflection, and in the end we got glass finish an it is bumpy
I feel like a lot of people who have a small business, esp a new one, should watch this. A solid reminder that you're going to hit snags but keep at it...9 times out of 10 you'll figure it out. YMMV
My question is how did he completely screw this board up and than come back and make it beautiful piece of art work. love what you do keep up the hard work
Do you think you should use something else besides spackle as spackle does not hold up to getting wet what so ever no matter how dry or old it is. I just think what if the board gets a small ding crack or hole punched into it that spackle will deteriorate pretty fast when wet.
Pretty sure that delam happened because you took the shortcut of wetting 2 plys of fiberglass at once. it probably didnt properly wet through the logo ply onto the board. Just pointing out that is the most likely culprit, lack of coverage under the 1st layer of fiberglass(logo), it doesnt seem you did anything else to cause bad adhesion. The logo was really big, and it would be easy to not get enough resin under such a large ply of fiberglass when wetting 2 plies at once. I have never seen 2 plies wet at a time like that professionally, granted lives depend on me in my line of work, but you seem experienced enough that you have done this shortcut multiple times with no issues that you know of. I work in aerospace and we always pre-wet repair plies or lay down a light base coat of resin before adding plies to ensure proper adhesion, it is very easy to get resin starvation that you can't see, voids(starvation/delam) are the most common issues found in non-destructive testing, even though the part looks perfectly fine. Just sharing my composite experience, it would be unfortunate if you get a bad rap for delams in the future over a shortcut that really doesn't save you much time compared to the cost to your wallet/reputation later. The boards turned out great and you have real talent and passion for what you do, great video.
I've been wanting to restore an 80's surboard. Would sanding the whole board, repairing the dings, then base coating the entire board white, then painting the neon fade over the existing glass , adding the new laminates, and then glassing over the whole thing be out of the question? I've been concerned with the idea of adding too much paint and/or primer into the foam in order to get it "snow white" which is needed to paint the fluorescent colors since their so translucent. My first thought was the fiberglass lifting because it can't bite into the foam since there's so much paint it's basically bonding only to the paint and then it can lift easily like you experienced... Would love to know your opinion if it would come out like crap going over the original glass.
I’m not going to lie when you didn’t put any resin on the fiberglass piece with the bay watch logo on it I thought it maybe some trouble, my main priority would be to make sure everything has enough resin on it forsure
Beautiful job i too tried my hand at surfboard repair it wasn’t worth my inexperience and sent 7 boards to terry senate where perry restored them all and I didn’t gray anymore hairs
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Respect for not throwing in the towel. I'm sure the end product didn't meet your standards but the fact that you stuck in their says a lot about your devotion. Good stuff!!! 🤙🏽
Some projects are just snake bit. One catastrophe after another. But how you bounce back from them is what counts. The primer costs and time fixing the subsequent delams may have blown your profit margin, but your honesty and transparency with this project should inspire tons of confidence with every prospective client. A terrific project to watch (if not to actually do). Thanks! Oh, and I'll can confirm the quality of work and service Boadlams provides. They transferred some custom art a friend of mine did for an Umalon board that came out amazing!
I would hope that guy paid an arm and a leg for repairs when the boards worth 1,000,000 I ain’t charging blue collar prices
Painted an interior that was exactly that, thankfully the clients were amazing people and my general contractor wasn't a total jerk, but gave me the big brother treatment.
Life lesson to be learned from all of this. " treat every customer's board like its a $1,000,000 board"
Nice job.
How is that your take away??
@drowsy5879 he stressed the cost of the board in his mind every time something went wrong and put the effort in to make it right. And it's my assumption that most people would respond the same way. But that being said each customer deserves the same care with their belongings. So he should treat a much cheaper board with just as much care. ( under my assumption that if the board was cheap someone would possibly let small imperfections slide ) and this experience should have taught him or anyone watching the importance of quality . It's not a perfect analogy but it's my hope that the moral learned is to respect and treat with care someone's property they are trusting you with regardless of what it is or how much it cost. And my saying nice job at the end was due to the top tier quality he performed in this video, but had nothing to do with the point I was making.
@@jackucthatjack5896 seriously?? I feel like it goes without saying, but this board is priceless of course he’s going to spend more time and effort on it. Not only because hes being payed more, but its also perfect for his resume AND THERES ONLY LIKE 8 OTHER BOARDS LIKE IT. It would be like me expecting you to drive my honda civic like my one of a kind Bugatti Chiron.. Like why would I expect you to drive around a speed bump while driving a civic? It would be a waste of time and slower so Id probably never have you drive any of my cars again.
@@jackucthatjack5896 If you are gonna take away something from the video you should recognize the customer expected the normal job that he does on every board, but obviously since this board was worth alot he went above and beyond. Instead of expecting people to go above and beyond for you. Expect what you paid for and be surprised if someone does extra for you..
@drowsy5879 that's 100% how I would treat any car that does not belong to me no matter if it's a busted up civic or a brand new Lamborghini.
35+ years of shaping, glassing and repair work. For fin removal use an oscillating multi-tool with a fine toothed, flush cut blade.......carbide preferably for longevity. A must have tool. When skinning a board, instead of angle grinder use sander at the apex of rails and sand until almost through cloth. Avoid hitting the foam. Finish the cut with a razor blade only cutting the cloth being careful not to get into the foam. Another method to peel a board is to blow it up like a basketball before grinding the rails. Compressed air will peel the glass pretty cleanly especially on the deck side. The less foam damage the better.
Regarding your delamination issues. Resin and Q-cel for filler, not spackle. The less paint build up the better and let it dry completely between every coat. Always thin coats letting dry in between. If you apply the next coat too soon you've effectively trapped moisture underneath which will haunt you later. After final coat, let it dry twice as long as you think. A week in a very dry space wouldn't hurt. Resin hates moisture and is repelled by it. On a large area painted with red or blue in particular you have to pre-coat the board with lam resin before glassing. Squeegee it on thinly and evenly and make sure there are no drips. Some paints and some colors want to repel resin or react with the resin and crystalize. Precoating will reveal if you're going to have a crystallization issue before it breaks your heart when there is glass in play. If you get crystallization give a second thin coat of lam resin in that area before glassing. If you pre-coat both sides, use wax paper on the glassing racks to avoid lifting your paint from the foam when you flip. (I've learned that one the hard way) On your rails use bigger laps (an extra inch and a half of cloth all the way around) when going over a painted blank as the cloth doesn't seem to grip a painted blank like it does bare foam and keep a close eye on your laps until the resin kicks.
Glossing glass on fin: No need to mask and do one side at a time. Sand to 80 grit and no finer. We want the resin to grip the fin and resist sagging. Fins side down in the racks and do both sides at once. Kick it hot and don't overload the resin on or it will sag.
Lastly, know when to turn work away or refer a project to someone else if it is out of your comfort zone or something you've never done before. Cheers
Thank you!!
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@@s0kulite couldn't agree more. Your comment just made me re-visit mako's original advice. Hugely helpful tips.
Curious why you chose sparkling instead of, industry standard, Q-cel for the foam restoration. The sparkling might explain some of the laminating issues you had. Laminating with pigmented resin as opposed to painting the foam would help with fiberglass adhesion to the blank as well.
*chose spackling
Agreed that was a very baffling choice and clearly the reason for all these problems. That filler was obviously reacting with either the paint or the resin. He should have done a resin skim coat to seal the foam. Another part that baffled me was that he did not do a one-to-one paper trace of all the graphics to ensure that the positioning of the replacements would be 100% spot on to the original. Less of a restoration and more of a recreation at this point....
@@DFMurray It seems like ding repair is his hobby & he’s still learning. A opportunity to do a ‘special’ restoration came to him & he did the best he could. Getting advice from his supply dealer would get him the right materials & lessen the chance of mistakes. The mistakes happen even when you do use the right materials. That’s just ding repair.
@@DFMurraythe yellow color difference on the part of the graphic that de-laminated and replaced was very noticeable and I feel bad it appears he displayed it that part exposed too.
As someone who's experience with fiber glass ends with a single boat deck. I think he did a pretty good job and Perfection is the enemy of good enough and that looks like a tough job.Since youre working with a really old weather baked foam core on a board thats designed to look at and theyre saying its worth a million dollars while also sun baking it for 60 years. As some one who also knit picks and beats himself up about my own work The eye and judgement are more harsh and keen.
It's a pleasant surprise to see someone show their failures and challenges as well as their successes. The board came out sweet, nice work.
In experiences of painting walls with vinyl/latex paints I noticed it has a tendency to delaminate, so if you later press on it, those areas crack and fall of the wall.
The solution to remedy it is to dilute the paint with water and apply some thin coats before working upto pure paint.
I know the paint and resin coatings on a board are very different things but perhaps there is some transferrable logic here?
Hey man, I just wanna say that watching your videos has taught me so much about board repair and gave me the confidence to step into doing larger repairs. And your ability to capture all this on video is really commendable. With all the prep and setup required for these repairs, filming them simultaneously is no small feat!
As someone who has made some very sketchy board repairs at home over the years the challenges in this video give me some solace.
So frickin cool @ the end with your hand-off of those two original Baywatch surfboards to their owner, in like-new condition>>he obviously picked the right man for the job...beautiful craftsmanship...RIP Brock (Braddah will always be one of my favorite Hawaiian Big Wave 🌊 watermen)
Throwing tools around the shop never gets old they are easy to take our frustration out on easily great job on tha board
Glad you didn't quit and came through. Loved the kitchen nightmares cringe sounds. Most of these delam possibilities have been mentioned, but I'll put em all in one place: bad yellowing foam with integrity/ density compromised, spackle should be fine as long as it was roughed up enough for mechanical adhesion, but the less the better; crystallisation from paint, especially thick, uneven coats that havent fully dried through; and then finally heat from excessive sanding. The trial and error is what is going to get you on the level of guys like Randy Rarick some day. Keep at it!
Gotta say first much respect to your craftsmanship.. Saying yes to the project would have paralyzed me w/ anxiety no doubt you got big balls, how do you surf w such big balls? Definitely run a moisture meter or before steps since spackle and paint were added.. on a million dollar board. I have to fin repairs i prepped and put aside almost a year ago.. maybe i do them now. much respect to you brother.. Why didnt they just have you make new boards so those could be in a museum if so imporrtant?
At what time wound you just make a new board, identical? The visible part of thr board is what it has value, you don't se the foam in the movie. Probably better to keep the original as it was an have a duplicate.
That's what I thought? Basically a brand new board was made with old foam. I guess that is what the customer wanted though. I think it would have been cool to make a replica and hang it side by side the original.
good for you for not giving up , great job !!
I quit my 9-5 to go into my passion for painting. I have a great mentor, but some skill gaps are present and i've ate crow a few times. Internally I have wanted to walk off the job and more often than not, worked 12hr days wondering why I couldn't be better. I'll never give this up and it's reassuring to see others go through similar experiences in other fields of work.
Keep up the good work, I would be happy with that final product considering it's a restoration of a really weathered board.
Love your channel. Crazy project, but the outcome looks great
well done man🤟
I wasn’t having a day , but when you lost temper, I suddenly was not alone and I was sharing in your emotions that I know all too well. Thanks for the video. I’m going back out to the shaping shack now .
Overcoming the trouble and persisting until it is done perfectly truly is admirable. I know exactly how you felt. Respect.
Does the board moving around while you work on it drive you crazy? Seems like you should have some sort of setup to keep it clamped or held down.
Nice job finishing. You and him had great rapport too.
Why didn't you keep the stringer visible like on the original baywatch intro ?
Bonann seems like such a chill dude, love it.
No matter how long you've been doing something, you're always gonna make mistakes. Sometimes several. A lot of the time, it has nothing to do with how skilled you are. Sometimes it just happens. You did right by identifying the issue, freaking out at a reasonable rate, fixing it, and moving on to the next step.
Am i stupid or does this just not seem like a "restoration" you basically just took everything off that made that board that board and then just built it with completely new parts ontop of the barebone. Might aswell have just replicated it.
ye it made no sense
RUclips really gives you the best recommendations at 4am. Hoping this hits the algorithm hard soon so you can achieve your desired 200k views.
I'm just curious, why didn't you do a coat of primer in the first place? In pretty much every house or automotive painting I've done, it's always common place to apply primer first. Is it just different for surfboards, or was it just an oversight?
Awesome stuff KING. Keep em coming
Just wondering how many layers of glass did it take to get that board right? What a nightmare. Years ago I was restoring an old Porsche , got everything done, primed ready for paint and waiting for the right day , no wind , cool out and cloudy. Race home, mask off the car and shoot it out . Looks great! Wait a few hours before pulling the masking but the paint isn’t dry ! Wtf. Then I noticed I forgot to put the hardener in the paint ! Ya one of those moments ! Two gallons of lacquer thinner and dozens of rags to strip the car and start over. Last time I painted a car!
Very apparent passion, perfectionism and professionalism, great job.
Woooo nice job 😊
That's the OG version of Local Motion for their logo. So cool to see they said yes.
That was a master class in perseverance. I'm not a shaper myself, but I would have quit and got a job as a taxi driver after seeing the de-laminated tail - never mind the rails. Nice work!
"...hi Dave!...your vid just popped-up and I clicked straight away....I`ve been there and done that...but not and that scale!....I always say...Embrace The Struggle...great vid...!"😎🤙🌴
Does it float? Now that it has 2 tons of primer
Amazing work! Enjoyed watching every minute and felt your pain ...
Nice job. I noticed the end of the Baywatch logo that you had to patch up was a different shade of yellow than the rest of the logo. Was that intentional? The 2nd board wasn’t like that.
Great video.. it’s cool to see humble, honest craftsmen admitting mistakes. I build guitars, and feel the way you did almost every build haha.
How awsome that Local Motion sent you the vector graphics.
it delaminated because u used to much primer and paint very common ( also the type of paint u use will also determine the out come )when the polyester or epoxy resin cant reach the foam and bond to cells of the foam ,, heating it up with you sanding pad removing the fin didn't help u out either ,, ,, why it went straight to the old foam after the delam,, ive learned this the hardway myself doing thousands of board builds and restorations in California and Hawaii in the last 45 yrs ,, Qcell was your answer from the beginning
Wow, watching this was great, big fan! I feel the anxiety and feel like i'm messing up! Thank you so so so much for sharing!
What incredibly high-stakes! Delighted to see how happy Greg was after you wrangled it back under control. Well done! 👌
Overall they look awesome, but, the hidden stringer makes me hitch. I would do whatever to have that stringer visible, specially in an older board like this. Not having a stringer just makes them look wrong. Also, as many have already mentioned: Q-cell and resin the whole thing = smoother base to work on and less issues with delams for sure.
What made the patch under the fin not match the colors? I couldn't not see it.
Boards look good. Question, why use spackle on blank foam instead of q-cell? Thanks.
As soon as drywall spackle came out I knew this was gonna be a good one 😂
Way cool to see @LocalMotion being so cool with it.
I really like the faded look tbh
Drywall spackle aka mud has moisture in it. This results in shrinkage and cracking as the moisture evaporates. Perhaps this might partially explain your delamination issues.
must have been so stressful knowing the price of it but came out amazing I learn a lot from you
The greatest thing about hard jobs is that it makes it so much more enjoyable to do the other ones !
what an absolut mayhem in getting this done, well done!
Nice mate! As cornball as that show was, as a teen aged surf mad grom in Perth WA, it was never missed🤙
Brings back sweet memories of prototyping and painting nightmares in the shop
Wow what tenacity! Kudos for finishing so well in spite of the many setbacks 🎉
I like that Katin sweat shirt and the great job you did on the boards. It's hard to believe that these boards are worth so much money. I wonder how much you charged. Lot's of work was done on these.
Good job ... Never give up.!
All is well that ends well that was sick
We've all been there, I've had customer cars that have been a pain since day one and no matter how much of your own time and money you work into it to get it right it will still be wrong. Unfortunately these problems do occur sometimes
With that much spray, I would not be surprised if the entire thing delams if the boards ever get warm, at least you know that foam is done degassing. Did you use fin rope for glassing the fins? Also, why not either tint the resin or spray the lam coat as opposed to spraying the foam.
Great job and even greater recovery, Did Greg say if Baywatch 2024 will have a new diverse modern opening Featuring those boards?.
this reminds me of one of those woodworking channels where the highlight of the video is the screwup
Bro I felt for you on this one, well done for bashing down the door on this!
Pretty wild how it seems like you just winged it lmao
The frustration and building anxiety is so relatable.
If you restore a ship but in doing so you have to replace every board is it still the same ship?
This was soooo hard to watch. Amazing work. What fixed the final delam? Or just redoing it happened to work?
Knowing what happened, the second board he brought in & the one on his wall, was the one with the ruined logo. Glad he stuck with it though
So, is such result of restoration expected? As I see how those boards looks in a movie, they have semi matte finish and smooth reflection, and in the end we got glass finish an it is bumpy
This is the type of experience/challenge that makes you professional.
I feel like a lot of people who have a small business, esp a new one, should watch this. A solid reminder that you're going to hit snags but keep at it...9 times out of 10 you'll figure it out. YMMV
I wouldn’t have given 20 bucks for it before you got a hold of it. Great job 👍
My question is how did he completely screw this board up and than come back and make it beautiful piece of art work. love what you do keep up the hard work
i think the sparkling is what caused the delam in the rails.
cool video! awesome boards! :3
I thought you were screwed several times 😂 great job
I feel like the spackle was a bad idea and what is the cause for the delamination. Spackle shrinks.
Do you think you should use something else besides spackle as spackle does not hold up to getting wet what so ever no matter how dry or old it is. I just think what if the board gets a small ding crack or hole punched into it that spackle will deteriorate pretty fast when wet.
Pretty sure that delam happened because you took the shortcut of wetting 2 plys of fiberglass at once. it probably didnt properly wet through the logo ply onto the board. Just pointing out that is the most likely culprit, lack of coverage under the 1st layer of fiberglass(logo), it doesnt seem you did anything else to cause bad adhesion. The logo was really big, and it would be easy to not get enough resin under such a large ply of fiberglass when wetting 2 plies at once. I have never seen 2 plies wet at a time like that professionally, granted lives depend on me in my line of work, but you seem experienced enough that you have done this shortcut multiple times with no issues that you know of. I work in aerospace and we always pre-wet repair plies or lay down a light base coat of resin before adding plies to ensure proper adhesion, it is very easy to get resin starvation that you can't see, voids(starvation/delam) are the most common issues found in non-destructive testing, even though the part looks perfectly fine.
Just sharing my composite experience, it would be unfortunate if you get a bad rap for delams in the future over a shortcut that really doesn't save you much time compared to the cost to your wallet/reputation later. The boards turned out great and you have real talent and passion for what you do, great video.
Very cool! Great job 😁
It looked like the red color was in the layer with the fiberglass and not painted into the foam. So why fill the foam with paint restoring it?
No music or nothin in the shop eh?! Madman.
immediately subscribed. Never heard of your channel, stumbled across this video, love it! Keep doing you!
would new foam not adhere to the old stuff and sand down??
My Dad painted jetskis, red was the hardest color to get good coverage, I powdercoat and get same issue with red
Looks like the original boards had the stringer showing but not the refurbished ones..??
The least I could do to help out was click thumbs up and subscribe, which I did. Great learning process...
Have had the rail resin issue before with the uv resin not being happy with normal catalyst resin.
I don't think you tagged the correct Local Motion on your youtube description. Seems to point to some local car club.
Never heard of using spackle instead of QCell for fixing the blank. That is probably why your new glass job delamed.
I've been wanting to restore an 80's surboard. Would sanding the whole board, repairing the dings, then base coating the entire board white, then painting the neon fade over the existing glass , adding the new laminates, and then glassing over the whole thing be out of the question? I've been concerned with the idea of adding too much paint and/or primer into the foam in order to get it "snow white" which is needed to paint the fluorescent colors since their so translucent. My first thought was the fiberglass lifting because it can't bite into the foam since there's so much paint it's basically bonding only to the paint and then it can lift easily like you experienced... Would love to know your opinion if it would come out like crap going over the original glass.
This would work if you don’t care about weight and strength! IE If you’re going to hang it on your wall then it’ll work for sure.
Definitely stressful but the end result is incredible
I’m not going to lie when you didn’t put any resin on the fiberglass piece with the bay watch logo on it I thought it maybe some trouble, my main priority would be to make sure everything has enough resin on it forsure
world class content
good work! but I wanted to see the stringer, it doesn't look like a restoration it's looks like a copy. but nice job!
Beautiful job i too tried my hand at surfboard repair it wasn’t worth my inexperience and sent 7 boards to terry senate where perry restored them all and I didn’t gray anymore hairs
I’m curious why didn’t remove all the brown previously water logged foam
This is like destroying the original and building a new one.
This is the surfboard of Theseus.
Insane work bro. 👍💜🤙🌊🦆
By the end of the whole ordeal how much did each board weigh??? Did they still float?
Wouldn't fiberglassing the board then painting then fiberglassing the logos then the final top coat been better