Great Video, I ordered the Bilstein B12s with the 5160s. I’ll be installing soon and hope it goes smoothly. This video will be my reference for the install. Thanks
Absolutely! I'm a set it and forget it ype of guy so springs definitely take the cake. Don't have to mess with air pressures or anything. Can't go wrong here!
I see that you were using the rear pumpkin with your floor jack to raise truck. I know that was common for decades, but I was afraid to do so on these newer trucks, fearing it was made out of pot metal. Glad to see it can still be used to jack from
Tufftruck's 1223VT would have given you 1.5" lift in the rear. I used them with rough countries 3" lifted struts in the front and the truck is nicely levelled with the benefit of minimal sag towing.
I had already purchased the same springs to use on my 5th gen before seeing your video and I am going to replace them soon. My Question revolves around the shocks. Did you purchase shocks that were a little longer to go with the 1 inch lift over stock or were the Bilstein shocks the same length as the original ones.
@@TboneSRTonce I got the springs out I was surprised that the new springs were shorter when comparing them to the factory ones. I kept the stock shocks and it drives great. Note I also installed a set of Ram Rebel front strut/spring assemblies to match the 1 inch gain in the rear.
What year is your Ram? I have a 2020 Bighorn Ecodiesel and installed the 70% over the weekend using your video. Thank you for a great video! These lifted my truck 3” and I don’t want that much lift. You said the 4th gen 35% (351893HD) will fit the 5th gen, but I read something that said it’ll only fit 5th gen Classic model. Do you have a Classic or something else like Laramie/Bighorn/etc.? I am returning the 70% and about the buy the same you have here, but want to check first and not waste money on shipping costs. Again great video!! Super helpful!
Heck yeah! Glad it helped you. As far as lifting, Ahh ha, did you reference the chart?? The 70% 5th gen springs will definitely raise it 2.5". The 4th gen 70% springs will raise it 2". Do you remember which part number you installed?
Unfortunately I purchased the 351-905XHD ones back in January and just saw your video before installing. So I’m curious if the 351-893HD ones will fit on my 2020. I love the chart you provided and it sounds like they will. However, I read one site that said those would only fit 5th gen Classic and then all 4th gen ones.
@InLandSkate_NV ahh okay! So I am actually running the 4th gen ones on my 5th gen with zero issues! They fit! I only needed 1" of lift so my only option was to go with the 4th gen version to give me the exact lift I needed. I totally forgot to add that mine is a 2023!
Did these affect your swaybar at all? Planning going this entire right but want to purchase the helwig sway bar for the rear. There's the factory height or the 2inch lift option for those bars. I should be fine with the factory one correct since it only appears to bring the back up an inch.
This part number on rock auto is for front coil springs. Is this correct and you just used them for the rear and they matched right up? No spring insulator change or anything? I'm just checking to make sure I have everything right before I place the order and get things torn apart.
@@TboneSRT reading it again it says "Rear; Front Coil springs; Most Appropriate For Vehicles With A Varying Load Condition. They Ride Approximately 1" Over; Stock Empty Height; Cargomaxx Heavy Duty Variable" So they must be universal for both front and rear. No new spring insulator or anything though, since its for the 4th gen? Thanks for getting back!
@1NiCk508 hmm interesting, I don't think they will fit on the front because they are massive coils, twice the size as the coils in the front haha but yes it is absolutely a direct fit, you use the current insulators. Pop the old coil out, throw these in and you're good to go!
4x4 shop near me says I need to upgrade shocks as well? I have 5100’s up front and sits maybe 9/16” taller up front. I want the 893 option which should level me again. 14 Ram 1500. Just started towing again so hope this helps. I also have airlift 1000’s in the rear coils. Thinking I should be good?
Nah shouldn't have to but it wouldn't hurt for how cheap the 5100s are. I ran the stock shocks with 1" taller coils for a year with no issues! Yes you will for sure be golden! Between the springs and the bags, you're set!
@@TboneSRT Yeah, that would be great because that is one of the most asked questions when we are DIYing on all this stuff. Torque specs for the wheels should be 130 ft lbs the rest of the items for rear suspension parts to replace all the stuff in the video are in question. TIA!
@HookedonHD no problem, I have access to all of that info! And yes 130 you're correct! Although I go 125, just to play it safe. Soft aluminum threads they stretch real easily and if you don't have the greatest torque wrench, you could run into stretching threads and snapping them. Ask me how I know 😆
@TboneSRT I didn't check, but do you have a front suspension replacement video? I'm going to install Bilstein 6112 in the front looking for a good DIY video with torque specs. TIA!
@HookedonHD for the rear, lower rear shock 103 ft lbs Upper shock nut- 35 ft lbs Rear upper end link bolt- 41 ft lbs For the front Upper shock nuts to frame - 46 ft lbs Lower shock nut- 124 ft lbs end link - 114 ft lbs I do not have an install of the front. I should have recorded that but I never did!
@@TboneSRT perfect! Thanks for the quick reply. Just ordered. Was waiting to see if they sagged before I bit the bullet, but I need the extra help for towing coming up soon. Thanks for your help and the part numbers.
@@TboneSRT Thank you I see they are charging $420 for it. I also found another set made by Dorman for $290 on RocAuto. It looks like the exact same thing, same description, but just made by a different company. What are your thoughts on that?
@ATeamAdventures I'd copy the part number and do a Google search and see where you can find them the cheapest. The link I sent is to a company that sells them but doesn't make them. Dayton cargomaxx makes these springs. I bought mine on rockauto for 211. Rockauto had the best price! Also you can google a rockauto discount code that saves 10%!
Not really sure. Cargomaxx has lift options as well as stock height options for increased cargo capacity. So I'd say cargomaxx might be better in that regard
I use Timbrin bump stops on my 22 Ram Rebel 1500. They do the job, however, when I have my travel trailer hooked up and they are resting on the axel, I can feel everything. I’m doing the CARGOMAX 905XHD’s for my truck. Thanks for the video, well done!!
Great visual of replacing rear springs. Thanks.
Thank you! I hope it helps
Great Video, I ordered the Bilstein B12s with the 5160s. I’ll be installing soon and hope it goes smoothly. This video will be my reference for the install. Thanks
@@Redwing-jd8rf awesome! I hope it helps you, I ran the 5160s on my 4th gen. Nice looking shock
Finally got around to installing the springs this weekend. Wasn’t at all. Thanks again for sharing.
Nice! Hopefully you like them!
Finally a good video on this job.
Thanks this was awsome, thanks for the detail install
@@AJK12ap appreciate it! Thanks for watching!
Great video. I was thinking about air bags until I saw this. I would rather have better coil springs vs air bags for my needs.
Absolutely! I'm a set it and forget it ype of guy so springs definitely take the cake. Don't have to mess with air pressures or anything. Can't go wrong here!
I see that you were using the rear pumpkin with your floor jack to raise truck. I know that was common for decades, but I was afraid to do so on these newer trucks, fearing it was made out of pot metal. Glad to see it can still be used to jack from
Ha nope! Perfectly safe to do it 👍
You crazy bro
Tufftruck's 1223VT would have given you 1.5" lift in the rear. I used them with rough countries 3" lifted struts in the front and the truck is nicely levelled with the benefit of minimal sag towing.
@malcrow97 yeah I didn't want that, just needed 1" for my truck to be perfectly level haha
just ordered the springs today... starting to thing shoulda got the 70 percent based on video.
I would have went with them but they give too much lift!
Have you tried them yet? Thinking about the 70% as well
I had already purchased the same springs to use on my 5th gen before seeing your video and I am going to replace them soon. My Question revolves around the shocks. Did you purchase shocks that were a little longer to go with the 1 inch lift over stock or were the Bilstein shocks the same length as the original ones.
So the bilstein shocks are for 0-1" lift! Perfect for this application. I ran the stock shocks for a while with zero issues as well.
@@TboneSRTonce I got the springs out I was surprised that the new springs were shorter when comparing them to the factory ones. I kept the stock shocks and it drives great. Note I also installed a set of Ram Rebel front strut/spring assemblies to match the 1 inch gain in the rear.
@brianfranta9549 isn't it crazy?! When I was comparing them to my 1" eibachs I was sh!tting myself lol. Very nice!!!
What year is your Ram? I have a 2020 Bighorn Ecodiesel and installed the 70% over the weekend using your video. Thank you for a great video! These lifted my truck 3” and I don’t want that much lift.
You said the 4th gen 35% (351893HD) will fit the 5th gen, but I read something that said it’ll only fit 5th gen Classic model. Do you have a Classic or something else like Laramie/Bighorn/etc.? I am returning the 70% and about the buy the same you have here, but want to check first and not waste money on shipping costs.
Again great video!! Super helpful!
Heck yeah! Glad it helped you. As far as lifting, Ahh ha, did you reference the chart?? The 70% 5th gen springs will definitely raise it 2.5". The 4th gen 70% springs will raise it 2". Do you remember which part number you installed?
Unfortunately I purchased the 351-905XHD ones back in January and just saw your video before installing.
So I’m curious if the 351-893HD ones will fit on my 2020. I love the chart you provided and it sounds like they will. However, I read one site that said those would only fit 5th gen Classic and then all 4th gen ones.
@InLandSkate_NV ahh okay! So I am actually running the 4th gen ones on my 5th gen with zero issues! They fit! I only needed 1" of lift so my only option was to go with the 4th gen version to give me the exact lift I needed. I totally forgot to add that mine is a 2023!
Excellent! Thank you for the confirmation! And again appreciate the help👊
@@InLandSkate_NV anytime! Glad I could help!!
Did these affect your swaybar at all? Planning going this entire right but want to purchase the helwig sway bar for the rear. There's the factory height or the 2inch lift option for those bars. I should be fine with the factory one correct since it only appears to bring the back up an inch.
@@arlenw19 yep factory one will work great!
This part number on rock auto is for front coil springs. Is this correct and you just used them for the rear and they matched right up? No spring insulator change or anything? I'm just checking to make sure I have everything right before I place the order and get things torn apart.
@@1NiCk508 351893hd should pop up as the rear coils on rock auto
@@TboneSRT reading it again it says "Rear; Front Coil springs; Most Appropriate For Vehicles With A Varying Load Condition. They Ride Approximately 1" Over; Stock Empty Height; Cargomaxx Heavy Duty Variable" So they must be universal for both front and rear. No new spring insulator or anything though, since its for the 4th gen? Thanks for getting back!
@1NiCk508 hmm interesting, I don't think they will fit on the front because they are massive coils, twice the size as the coils in the front haha but yes it is absolutely a direct fit, you use the current insulators. Pop the old coil out, throw these in and you're good to go!
Thank you for doing this video .
No problem, hope it helps!!
Great video brother.
Thank you!!🫡
4x4 shop near me says I need to upgrade shocks as well? I have 5100’s up front and sits maybe 9/16” taller up front. I want the 893 option which should level me again. 14 Ram 1500. Just started towing again so hope this helps. I also have airlift 1000’s in the rear coils. Thinking I should be good?
Nah shouldn't have to but it wouldn't hurt for how cheap the 5100s are. I ran the stock shocks with 1" taller coils for a year with no issues!
Yes you will for sure be golden! Between the springs and the bags, you're set!
Good video, I wish you had posted the torque specs though!
I can get them and post them. I torque wheels to 125. But I can get specs for the shock and sway bar link bolts
@@TboneSRT Yeah, that would be great because that is one of the most asked questions when we are DIYing on all this stuff. Torque specs for the wheels should be 130 ft lbs the rest of the items for rear suspension parts to replace all the stuff in the video are in question. TIA!
@HookedonHD no problem, I have access to all of that info! And yes 130 you're correct! Although I go 125, just to play it safe. Soft aluminum threads they stretch real easily and if you don't have the greatest torque wrench, you could run into stretching threads and snapping them. Ask me how I know 😆
@TboneSRT I didn't check, but do you have a front suspension replacement video? I'm going to install Bilstein 6112 in the front looking for a good DIY video with torque specs. TIA!
@HookedonHD for the rear, lower rear shock 103 ft lbs
Upper shock nut- 35 ft lbs
Rear upper end link bolt- 41 ft lbs
For the front
Upper shock nuts to frame - 46 ft lbs
Lower shock nut- 124 ft lbs
end link - 114 ft lbs
I do not have an install of the front. I should have recorded that but I never did!
Any sagging or change in rear lift height now that you’ve been running it for a bit?
None at all! Still exact same measurements
@@TboneSRT perfect! Thanks for the quick reply. Just ordered. Was waiting to see if they sagged before I bit the bullet, but I need the extra help for towing coming up soon. Thanks for your help and the part numbers.
@@thatdonnyguy awesome! They'll do a great job. I think you'll be happy with them! No problem. Any questions, hit me up!
The 893s show no capacity increase for a 5th gen truck. I am confused.
35%, I have the chart in the video @1:15. I know the chart doesn't show it for the 5G but it's probably 35% as well based on my experience
Thanks for sharing. Is this spring compatible with a Ram 2500?
They aren't but here's a link to 2500 springs simcoespring.com/products/sc28215v
@@TboneSRT Thank you I see they are charging $420 for it. I also found another set made by Dorman for $290 on RocAuto. It looks like the exact same thing, same description, but just made by a different company. What are your thoughts on that?
@ATeamAdventures I'd copy the part number and do a Google search and see where you can find them the cheapest. The link I sent is to a company that sells them but doesn't make them. Dayton cargomaxx makes these springs.
I bought mine on rockauto for 211. Rockauto had the best price! Also you can google a rockauto discount code that saves 10%!
@@TboneSRT your the man! I appreciate it
@@ATeamAdventures anytime! Hopefully this helps!
Cargomaxx is better than SuperSprings international?
Not really sure. Cargomaxx has lift options as well as stock height options for increased cargo capacity. So I'd say cargomaxx might be better in that regard
@@TboneSRT Thank you very much for the response, it was very helpful to me
Why just install sumo spring ? Its much better
They don't add lift, but also, riding on bump stops is what seems to bend these frames
I use Timbrin bump stops on my 22 Ram Rebel 1500. They do the job, however, when I have my travel trailer hooked up and they are resting on the axel, I can feel everything. I’m doing the CARGOMAX 905XHD’s for my truck. Thanks for the video, well done!!