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I tried honey nut Cheerios, with ARFID! (Avoidant Restrictive Food Intake Disorder)❤️
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
- Trying new foods with ARFID, honey nut Cheerios! It did not go well, but at least I tried. I will try a different cereal.❤️☺️
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Avoidant restrictive food intake disorder (ARFID) is a diagnosis that can be found in the DSM-5. Approximately 0.5%-5% of the general population have ARFID.
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There are three types of ARFID:
1. Avoidant
2. Aversive
3. Restrictive
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People can have more than one type, or a combination thereof.❤️
Although research on neurological conditions and eating disorders remains limited, studies have consistently found that people with various neurodevelopmental differences, including autism, anxiety, OCD, ADHD, and intellectual differences, seem to be at a greater risk for developing eating disorders like ARFID.
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Although up to 54% of individuals with ARFID are autistic, not every individual with a diagnosis of ARFID has a diagnosis of autism and vice versa.
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Neurotypes and ARFID subtypes are factors to consider when discussing support and treatment plans. What may work for a neurotypical individual with a restrictive subtype will likely not work for an autistic individual with an avoidant subtype.
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We hope that by sharing our journeys and information about ARFID, we may bring awareness to the diagnosis and acceptance of those with differences.
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I don't have ARFID, but I used to have strong food sensitivities as a kid (I still have some now, but far more managable) and it honestly awes and impresses me how willing you are to try new foods, even after realizing the smell and texture were gross. I can't help but think back to all the meltdowns I had as a child because the thought of even putting these squishy, smelly foods in my mouth for a fraction of a second made me want to gag and cry. Even going in for a second bite after the first one was gross! I could never. I hope you reward yourself generously every time you do things like this because you deserve it.
he’s like… a cat.
and also, yes, cereal pops bc the milk is filling it
it’s satisfying :)
😂 Yes, he is like a cat! My cat similarly accepts/rejects foods based on brand, taste, and texture. If I want to ruin his day, I could give him pate (I never do this after finding out he hates it).
It’s still good that you’re willing to try, even though you don’t like that one. Please post the video of the other cereal!
He did really good. I was surprised by how big of bites he took. My 13 year old is autistic and has ARFID, and whenever he is willing to try something he also inspects it visually first, then smells it, then gingerly touches it to his lips to test the texture. If it passes those he’ll touch it with his tongue, before taking the tiniest of bites.
Most foods continue to be a no. But once in a while we are happy to discover a new food for him. ❤
Your description just reminded me of my nephew trying fish. Look. Touch of feel then OMG / The tiniest of bites.
I do this, and I'm 52yrs old. My 19yr old son gave me a drink to try. It was green, and supposedly "healthy." I smelled it; shook it; started at it, while moving the curious liquid around the container. I put the opened top to my closed lips, and allowed the liquid to barely make contact. I didn't like the way the texture felt on my lips, so I gave it back to my son, and said NOPE....I didn't like the texture, and I could tell IMMEDIATELY that if THAT had gone into my mouth, I probably would have been sick. 🤢🤮
ARFID is serious but your attitude and the background music gives a chill vibe which I hope encourage people to watch the videos and learn about it, like it did with me😊.
Yes. The background music is pleasing. Calming.
Personally I like it when the cereal is still crunchy ✨ with a little bit of milk on the bottom of my spoon, it's a golden combo 💕
You have a lovely spoken voice young man. Maybe you have a future in voice acting or audiobooks! Very nice sounding voice.
He has a teen star look to him.
Thanks so much for sharing 💜 My family and I are also neurodivergent, and I really enjoy seeing the similarities and representation in your videos. We really like Rice Chex with honey drizzled on top, +/- milk, depending on the family member or mood. Take good care of yourselves!
Rice Chex with honey is one of my favorites too! I have it almost every day for breakfast and often throughout the day as a snack :)
this might be super unhelpful but I prefer my cereal soggy (please don't come at me 😭) Do you have a preference between more mushy or crunchier textures? Because if you prefer mushier it might be cool to try letting the cereal sit for a bit until it gets soft. Plus this way I feel like I get to enjoy the actual flavor of the cereal more (ie sugar) because it soaks into the milk. Anyways that's just what works for me! (I absolutely hate the crunchy-ness of cereal). Thank you for sharing your experience with ARIFD ❤
It’s funny because I only like it crunchy, sometimes I will even have dry cereal with a cup of milk to keep it from getting soggy. I have this disagreement with my brother sometimes.
@@soniccookie655Same. Dry with a glass of milk was how I would eat my cereal. Hated it when it got mushy. Definitely texture adverse when I was little. I forget when I became ok with it, but the texture grew (slowly lol) on me. Sometimes just eating the cereal straight out of the bag, eating all the best looking pieces, is chef's kiss. 😚 👌🏻
The thought of any soggy food makes me want to puke. Soggy bread from something like condiments, soggy fried chicken, soggy cereal... if it gets soggy it's disgusting. I get so sad when I get chicken strips from the deli and they are soggy by the time I get home because of the steam. I almost puked on my dad when I put my hand in a bucket of KFC chicken while putting it away and touched a particularly soggy piece. I have a lot of food sensitivities, but soggy stuff is one of the few that turns my stomach just at the thought of it.
i love these arfid journeys. i don't have arfid but i do have extreme sensitivity to sound and touch...and it's strange because sometimes i'm hypersensitive and others times i'm hyposensitive, i think it just depends on if i'm concentrating on my special interest
"My opinion hath not changed" made me laugh! Sometimes I'm unsure about a food and more bites can clarify my opinion, but sometimes, if you know, you just _know_.
Well done for Trying the cereal Toren, you are inspiring my son with the same condition to try new foods. 🙏🏻😁
yessss a sniffer!! everyone gives me funny looks but i always have to investigate food with a good snorf
I think ARFID kids are super tasters, and a lot of our foods have chemicals in them that are not good for us, that ARFID kids detect. For example, the cancer causing chemical Hexane is used to clarify vegetable, canola, sunflower, safflower and other oils. Grains aren't that good for us, so the cereals are fortified with additional vitamins, which also give off a smell that isn't very appetizing. The best things ARFID kids can eat are whole foods with healthy fats, natural vitamins, and protein such as eggs.
a lot of neurodivergent people also have issues with texture, which is totally unrelated. a lot of safe food for people tends to be highly processed foods with little to no variation, and thus a higher chance of predictability. i don't think it has any connection to an inherent knowledge or sense of what is "healthy." also, eggs 9/10 are the worst texture ever
@@_mxbird I really appreciate your comment and the new information you've provided me so I can understand what it feels like to have ARFID.
To clarify, I think some things in foods that taste bad are things that are not good for us but a lot of people can't taste it.
When I was a child in the 1980's, processed foods tasted a lot better than they do today. Back then, they used real ingredients instead of fillers and chemicals that simulate real food. I am suggesting that ARFID kids can taste the artificial and it doesn't taste good. For example, cheeze itz don't have real cheese, Ritz crackers no longer have butter, honey nut cheerios don't taste sweet and oaty like they did when I was a kid. I hope that helps you understand my point of view. Have a great day. :D
I don’t have ARFID, but I believe I have a feeding disorder in my own way, but i’m proud of you for trying new foods! i’ve been on a long journey myself trying to do different foods. I’m still not 100% at its best but I certainly do better now, I wish the best for you Toren!
I really love that you and your family are so willing to share your life and help others learn about what it's like. Thank you so much!
I don't have AFRID, but I have some strong sensibilities around some foods. I get SO frustrated when manufacturers change how they make things. I used to love cinnamon toast crunch as a treat and they changed it years ago and it's just not pleasant anymore.
Good for you for giving it an honest try! I actually don’t mind them but I don’t eat cereal very often. We always had “healthy” cereal when I was a kid so I have long been used to corn flakes, regular cheerios, shredded wheat, special K, etc. Raisin Bran, honey nut cheerios, or frosted shredded wheat was a treat for us!
Also, the heart shaped holes in some of the cheerios are because they claim cheerios are heart healthy.
Have you tried them dry too? For a while I wouldn’t eat cereal with milk because it got mushy.
I'm 32, audhd female, living on my own with similar issues and bounce between safe foods.
I like some noodles, despise others, same with rice and as far as milk goes, I only drink a certain brand of soya.
The dollar store sells Big Daddy Chocolate Chip cookies and small bags of sun chips.
Some days, that is all I live on plus the necessary chocolate protein powder blended in soya to help with the lack of nutrients.
Recently, I discovered a ravioli type noodle at cosco (or rather my mom had me try it).... I ate that, and only that, for a week and have a tenancy for putting things others might find weird on my noodles (like lemon poppy seed salad dressing because its one of those things I could maybe drink and be pleased).
ARFID is a bothersome thing sometimes... most times... but so exciting when something is found that works.
Other things that work for me (always a particular brand + container type):
- tomato soup (replaced mushroom soup)
- specific crackers
- specific cheese
- specific bread
- costco frozen onion soup (I like that I can just put it in the microwave for 6 min)
- pesto (pc brand) [There's been twice where ARFID kicked my butt and I went F it and ate the entire jar with a spoon just to eat something not revolting]
I've accepted I need to keep trying new things and although it's hard, I've had to accept taste buds develop as you age, so tastes and adversions change and shift... stress and other things can affect as well.
Some days, it feels like a total RNG role on whether or not a food will be nasty.
"Something in you is better than nothing in you." Is what someone said one day after I fainted due to lack of anything (including water).
Since then, I have made myself eat at least one "meal" (meal meaning full tummy since satiated is a lie [brain says done, body thinks done = not enough food]).
I also had to learn to forgive myself when I end up wasting food, knowing I am not doing it intentionally and need to try something else.
As for cereal,
I like the chocolate cherios and only those, with soya milk, and eat after 45s soaking and no later. Worse case, I mix it around and I have chocolate milk. Although sometimes the grainyness does me in 😅
Thumbs up for trying!
Toren, you’re so funny! 😂 “It literally can not be worse than that”
I have a sensitivity to a lot of textures, anything too crunchy, mushy, too soft, and I have only 10 or 13 go to meals at all times! I need to get out of my comfort zone and try new foods, or old foods too 😊
That's alot of meals considering your sensitivity! Don't worry ,you're doing good ❤
What I learned is that there's a comfort zone, a learning zone and a panic zone. Learning zone means you're curious, you're not feeling panicked or stressed, you're maybe a bit nervous but willing to give it a try. That's where new learning can happen. If you slip into the panic zone, it's best to end the experience right away, because nothing will be learned while you are panicking, hating the experience, etc. You will actually just reinforce the negative connection. And we can't spend all our lives in the learning zone, but going there occasionally is nice, because sometimes you hit the jackpot and you try a food that's actually really great! That's how I got horchata, I'd never had it before and it is excellent IMO!
"Obligatory 3 bite rule" XD That reminds me of how my mom always told us about how my grandpa had a rule "you don't have to eat it, you just have to taste it."
For me it is like for many other AuDHDers or ADHDers that prefered foods can change from one day to other.
I had a cereal phase a year ago and since then there is still a package here. I used to like them for month, but then out of the blue it was a "nope".
There are this "since ever" things and then there are those "part time favourites".
Like special interest and hyperfixations.
Well, at least it's never boring😂
Hurrah! Well done! And you did it on camera for thousands of people to see. My son has only a few things he will eat (more than you, though), plus he's vegan, and I felt just as proud of you watching this as I do when I see him try something 😊
🤔 HAVE A GOAL OF TRYING ONLY ONE A DAY. Otherwise it will become too overwhelming
Walmart has this Australian chocolate breakfast powder called Milo. It’s delicious and has heaps of iron and vitamins in it, I give it to my autistic daughter who has sensory food issues.
Wonderful thank you for sharing❤
Haha. I would have tried a single lil Cheerio before committing to a whole spoonful.
It's definitely a cereal that's best to eat sooner rather than later because it really does mush pretty fast. Grape Nuts holds out much longer, but you gotta be down for the CRUNCH unless you microwave it with milk and honey (totally recommended).
But cereal in general is so tricky. Each has its own flavor, *texture* and chaos. It's an adventure unto itself, honestly.
Hey, we're proud of you for trying! Personally, I love cereal, but I can understand it might not be to everyone's liking.
A couple days ago I had TWO pizza slices WITH the melted cheese on! One of my biggest aversions and I kinda liked it
Corn pops cereal. Taste sweet similar to corn / crunchy texture. Pleasant to eat. Props on 3 "bites" spoons!
My husband is autistic and prefers granola and milk sometimes because he says the texture is better and the flavors are balanced. I just buy the store brand usually. It might be worth a shot.
Don't add much milk. I have a strong aversion to soggy foods. Add about quarter bowl full of milk, no more. Add half a bowl (at least that much) of Cheerios.
Mix it around a little and eat. Bottom stuff won't get soggy if you eat it within 10 mins.
Should be crunchy as you eat it.
Rice Krispy cereal bothers me. Goes soggy real quick.
Chex mix (corn Chex for me) cereal should be eaten fast....or be like me and eat it straight from the box. I like to pop it between my tongue and the roof of my mouth. So yeah, I eat one piece at a time, lol.
I won't go near oatmeal..cooked anyway. I've had a certain habit for as long as I can remember...if there's oatmeal around me, I'll eat it raw --- especially the packets (not maple flavored though. Yuck). Brown sugar is my fave. Can go through a box of the stuff in one sitting if I'm given the opportunity
This is an eye opening video, because I always knew that autistic people had an adversity to textures, but I thought they’d react the same way i’d react eating something that makes me want to barf.
I have arfid but i also have a weird mix of being someone that seeks sensory but also avoids them. So a lot of foods need to have different textures in order to zero out that one texture that makes me wanna shrivel up and hide in bed.
Like i dont really like cereal unless its super soft but if i eat the ones with chocolate or those weird little balls ( that are in some cereal bars) or if they are whole grain then i like them way more. But letting them soak is how i like it. Theres also some that have a nice perfect crunch to them thats not too crunchy, almost painfully crunchy. Like a puff crunch and then theres some that have like a soft crunch that feels almost rubberish and thats the worst.
Cheerios and Strawberry Milk was my safe breakfast for a long time. Its now Honey Bunches of Oats! I even eat it for dinner sometimes 😊
Mac n cheese is better than ALL cereals😂 even for breakfast😂
Honey nut Cherrios is one of my okay foods from time to time - but the moment you went for the smell - if I smell mine I cant eat it - because of the milk (doesnt matter what kind of milk, cold, white, opaque liquid is an issue for me). Warm oatmeal or warm shredded wheat made with water and honey or maple syrup - no milk- work for me.
I never used to eat cereal with milk as a kid, I've only some what recently started to add it because the texture mix as the milk is absorbed into the cereal can be pretty upsetting😂 Honey nut cheerios are some of my favorite cereal, actually, although I don't know if I've ever eaten them in milk!
I never realized that is a thing. I haven’t had cereal since 2018 and usually just drink a supplement packet each day.
Love Crunch Peanut Butter granola!!! We use to make our own granola, flax, barley, wheat mix when I was younger as I did not “trust” cereals lol
Now I use Costco, love crunch and a few other love crunch’s
I think the “much more interesting milk” is my favourite part because that’s probably true for any cereal as it soaks.
But HN Cheerios specifically I always found was my favourite for the milk, while Cheerios themselves where always bland (minus the blueberry one that ones great).
I have to eat cereal very very fast before it goes mushy. It’s nice and crunchy when you first put it in but the longer you wait the worse it gets
The only way to eat honey flavored cereals is quickly. DONT LET IT GET MOOSHY. Texture is the real winner in cereal when it’s eaten quickly, otherwise I agree it’s oatmeal -gagtastic-. Please let me inform you to avoid foods that have hormone disrupters and vitamin blockers. They make all the atypical functions worse. We don’t know one another but seeing your mother & you resonates with me and my family’s struggles/journey. I’m compelled to share health advice 🙃 apologies.
I’m so proud of you for trying it. I hope you find a cereal you like 🤍
The heart is because they advertise that honey nut cheerios is good for heart patients.
Cheerios is hard for me to because of the texture and smell but he did so good with them
For me you've got go eat the cereal right away before it starts to get soft or soggy, then the texture is a big ick
It's like that scene in TBBT where Sheldon tries greek food
I am a late diagnosed autistic woman, and I never had food issues. I have one or two foods I won't go near, and I have issues with extreme dry mouth. I don't produce much saliva at all so my mouth can be very irritated, so I have some variable sensitivity with that. As a kid I ate pretty much anything. I think if I would have had more serious food issues I may have been diagnosed sooner.
If you eat the cheerios fast enough they don’t get soggy. I can’t stand the soggy. So I pour small amounts of cereal into the milk a bit at a time.
Hi in the previous video your Mom mentioned PDA I did look it up but am not grasping the meaning couldn’t find a video that you or your Mom had done on the topic any info would be appreciated Thank you , Debbie
i believe it is the acronym for pathological demand avoidance
@@_mxbird thank you
Honest question for you: is it a taste adversion, or a texture: or both?
My kiddo was just diagnosed with autism last month (AuDHD ftw!), and he's always gone through, what we called, cycles. When he was younger, he didn't eat meat for a few months, but then started again. Same with only wanting a certain food for a while. For him, it's a texture issue, not taste.
I'm still in the early days of navigating the autism caregiver waters, so any suggestions are welcome, and please be patient with me. 😅
I don't like that cereal either! Yuck. But I love Strawberry Banana Cheerios.
How many foods do you have on your safe list?
Try Apple Jacks cereal or fruit loops :D
So, although I’ve never been diagnosed as ARFID, I’m starting to think that my diagnosis of anorexia nervosa, may be a misdiagnosis. I don’t not eat because of body issues, I don’t eat because textures really bother me…now, I’m curious…
I can only find cereal nice under very specific circumstances. Honey nut cornflakes are much better than the Cheerios imo
Dry (no milk) tastes different. 🤔
What brand did you try? I’m a big fan of Honey O’s from Trader Joe’s. I have them for breakfast every morning
Oh yes, you absolutely can judge food before you have tried it. 🤣
Hey Toren try Honey Bunches of Oats👍
Cheerios isn't really good to me. I'd rather have rice krispies.
My son likes fruit loops, no milk. And he'll eat cap'n crunch, with milk. Thats it for cereal.
That’s the crappy stuff. 😉 Need something like fruity pebbles or chocolate lucky charms my dood.
Honey nut Cheerios is so bland to me. The knock off brands surprisingly taste better. I also love the apple cinnamon flavor more.
i see this while eating cinnamon toast crunch out of my home state, hah
I will smell, examine, touch, etc....until I think it's ok to put into my mouth. If I don't like the texture, I will instantly spit it out; feel like puking. I do like Honeynut Cheerios, but I HATE Toasted Miniwheats....🤮
I only eat the honey nut cheerios with taehyun on the box
the only cereal I can eat is frosted shredded mini wheats, everything else is BAD
Try without milk one day, I prefer cereal without milk.
I like the plain cheerios
Try Vegemite on toast pls 😂🎉
He said "they're still eating this ... IN 2020 ? " 2020 ?
The faces I was making watching this. My scared face. My worried face. Why did you take such a big bite?! Why was there so much cereal and milk in the bowl? I would just try a tiny bit. It did get easier by far as I hit my 30’s. No way I was trying a ton of things. So maybe tastebuds grow up and sensory issues get less. My parents are Ukrainian and my mom once made cow’s tongue and tried to say it was chicken. It had bumps on it. She put gravy on it. I do not eat gravy on meat. I only eat it like once a year on mashed potatoes maybe. She used to make liver & gizzards and borscht which is a cold soup with beets. Thankfully I was allowed to make a PBJ which would make it my 2nd of the day. I was told with my daughter it may try having something 10 - 20 times before she liked the taste. I have a hard time asking her to try that many times! My dad likes to say come on try it! Stuff that smells bad, looks weird or is slimy like crab. Nope. Not a fan. I am 46. It’s 10 pm. I am eating a muffin for dinner bc I just can’t bring myself to eat the other food even though it is food I usually eat.
What made him develop it?
There is no development it's autism with aldird
autism
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You’re so handsome
*aggressive sniffing*
The most important part of every meal 💯 😂
Ick
Gosh I wish I was that brave with my arfid. I've been able to expand a little bit since being with my husband (foodie & a chef) but it's like tiny nibbles. And if it's a no on the first bite it's a long time before I can try again. Ive also noticed I am worse if im with people, possibly due to fear of judgement or stemming from previous unpleasant interactions such as teachers standing over me until I finished what was on my plate