7 Invisible Eating Disorders
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- Опубликовано: 29 май 2024
- It's Eating Disorder Awareness Week, so I wanted to dive a little deeper into eating disorders -- specifically 7 invisible and misunderstood eating disorders. As many of you know, this channel started as content around eating disorders, and I've been working in ED recovery as a therapist for most of my career. As the channel evolved, I started creating more mental health content around different categories because I saw the need. But having done years of research and work around eating disorders and ED recovery, I know that there are many people who are struggling with this on a daily basis. And we often think eating disorders show up as the ones we often hear of like Anorexia Nervosa or Bulimia, but there are several other forms of eating disorders that can interfere or affect your life in serious ways. Let's talk about 7 invisible or misunderstood eating disorders, and how to heal from them.
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00:28 OSFED is a catchall diagnosis for various eating disorders that do not fit specific criteria.
Eating disorders are dynamic and can shift between behaviors based on triggers and coping mechanisms.
01:46 Atypical Anorexia involves intense fear of weight gain despite being within a normal weight range.
02:48 Overview of atypical eating disorders and their characteristics.
03:32 Atypical anorexia nervosa involves restrictive eating patterns and distorted body image.
04:39 Atypical bulimia nervosa is characterized by infrequent binge eating episodes and compensatory behaviors.
05:50 Atypical binge eating disorder involves periods of strict dieting followed by episodes of overeating.
07:07 Various lesser-known eating disorders, including binge eating, purging, and night eating syndrome, can impact individuals' well-being.
07:14 Binge eating disorder involves consuming large amounts of food uncontrollably, without compensatory behaviors. Emotional eating can resemble binge eating but may not meet all diagnostic criteria, still affecting well-being.
07:43 Purging disorder entails purging behaviors like vomiting or laxative misuse without prior binge eating. Individuals with purging disorder may engage in restrictive diets and purging to control weight and body image.
09:13 Night eating syndrome involves recurrent excessive eating after evening meals or during nighttime. This syndrome involves consuming excessive food at night, leading to sleep disturbances.
11:49 Rumination disorder entails regurgitating food without nausea or vomiting, often as a coping mechanism.
12:03 Seeking therapy and support is crucial for individuals like Faith to address their rumination disorder and its impact on their mental health. Understanding and raising awareness about these invisible eating disorders is essential for early intervention and support.
13:54 ⚠️ Recognizing the seriousness of lesser-known eating disorders and the importance of seeking help. Struggles with lesser-known eating disorders are often overlooked but are just as serious and painful. Eating disorders can make individuals feel like they are not sick enough to seek help, but everyone deserves access to care.
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The focus of an eating disorder is to distract from underlying issues or trauma, leading to negative impacts on relationships and life. It is essential to remember that seeking help and recovery is crucial, regardless of the specific eating disorder one may be facing.
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Thank you for making examples of middle aged people- all people. EDs still get the reputation of being a teenage/college kid issue.
Many individuals wouldn’t outgrow their eating disorders. Also as you get older you could gain weight so then develop unhealthy habits
I agree. ED is highly stereotyped as being a teenager/young adult disorder. I would love to learn more about the development of eating disorders when one is older....like the behaviors and such develop later on in adult hood.
Sadly can't agree more. I'm such a person who never outgrew her anorexia who started at age 15. It just chronified and changed, and just as you said, it can be very adaptable to the current situation. Meaning I would easily switch between purging or restricting respective of the opportunities present or not. At this point I've been living with it longer than without.
I'm an underweight 37 yo women, comorbidly struggling with other mental healt issues. And they influence each other.
Also good you had a male example too. Just another stereoptype people often have, that EDs were a female thing only.
Yessss! I tried finding support groups for bulimia as a 40-something, and I felt like i was old enough to be the mother of most of the group members.
I continue to lose weight. I'm 64 yrs old, 5'7" and am now down to 106 at Dr today. I'm worried. I have no appetite. I keep telling my Dr,but they don't seem to see this is a problem.
I identify with most signs and symptoms in every disorder but I still just feel like “doesnt everyone do this” 😬
most people in fact do not do that at all. To someone that doesn't have these conditions, all of these seem like self-harm or obsession
They don't.
I was diagnosed as a Compulsive Overeater. My doctor put me on a no sugars diet...Hypoglycemic diet. She said that I overeat because I eat foods high on the glycemic index. I would eat a food high in sugar which would raise my bloodsugar....but then hours later my bloodsugar would start to crash....which would drive me to find another sugary food to eat to raise my bloodsugar.
Hypoglycemic diet worked for me!
I dropped 100 lbs and had so much energy.
Old school, well done! 👍
That’s amazing!! I’m so glad you could work over the core problem and that your doc and you found a solution to it! Good job :)
Honestly, I wish I would have gotten help just in time. Unfortunately for me, I was diagnosed as prediabetic. I am the opposite of you, I have a hard time eating. Whenever I do eat, I eat large amounts of carb heavy foods or sweets. This diagnosis has changed my life.
I make it 2 days without sugar and then have a huge binge. I’m addicted to sugar.
I wonder if I struggle with this
This is so eye opening because I've always had many of these symptoms and always believed that I'm not "sick enough"...
right? i purge, binge and restrict. but, i don't binge enough to be a binge-eater, purge enough to be bulimic, and I'm not underweight, and I still eat too much to be anorexic. It's very misleading and I'm still confused, but I know my whole life was and will continue to spiral over my body, It's terrible, I know, but it's controls me, and has since I was 9. I'm a teen and I stopped going to real school after something, but after a few months of me not going and getting severely depressed (diagnosed), someone made comments on 'how much weight I lost'. I was 10kg down, and at that moment i felt good, but then it made me spiral into the worst body issues I ever had. to this day, I refuse to go to real school till I lose weight. (I am doing eschool now so dw abt my education. Since my focus on my body, other aspects of my depression have healed, others worsened.) I understand you on another level, and I hope you get diagnosed so you can get the help you need.
I need to say it: Atypical Anorexia is just, Anorexia. It's a mental disorder, not a weight disorder. I started off overweight before developing the disorder and dropped to dangerously underweight. Also. I feel like people don't talk about Anorexia subtypes that much or completely misunderstand them. Bullimia, Binging, and Anorexia all overlap.
All eating disorders are primarily psychological, aren't they? They're about an unhealthy relationship with food, about using maladaptive coping mechanisms.
All eating disorders are mental illness at first
Atypical just means a criteria isn’t met. That doesn’t have to be the weight criteria. It can be another one of the symptoms. Same as with atypical bulimia. Of course the weight criteria is awful to begin with but that has nothing to do with it being atypical or not.
That explains why I have symptoms of both binge eating disorder and anorexia despite being overweight.
I hate that the weight of you body matters more than the disordered thoughts. It's a mental disorder, why is your type of body important here?
Thank you for validating my struggles, Kati. I never fit the BED requirements because I don’t typically eat the massive amounts of food that practitioners say I have to eat to meet the requirement. But I do eat much more than the average person on a typical day. I feel out of control when eating my favorite foods, to the point of nausea, but I don’t purge. And I don’t compensate for it in any way. I just lay on the couch and promise myself to not eat that much again. It’s a vicious cycle that I can’t seem to break out of. 😢
So it seems to me I have Atypical BED.
For real. Nobody understands this is what it looks like so often. I don't see how this isn't binge eating. That's exactly how mine manifests.
@@adaharrisonn Right? There needs to be a “constant snacking eating disorder”. 😅
Wish you would have talked about ARFID ❤
LITERALLYYY
I came here to say the same thing. I was recently diagnosed with it. And it would have been nice to see it added. Like does she even know what it is because I went years and years thinking I’m crazy because I knew my eating was disordered but I wasn’t anorexic or bulimic. My previous doctor never even heard of it and neither did my therapist!
Yeah, I hopped on here to see her talk about Arfid, and I had drinkerexia (technically it's called drunkerexia but I drank pop) in college that I never heard of. I have other disordered eating now, but I'm not as bad as I was when I was in school. She has an entire video devoted to Arfid, so maybe she doesn't think it fits into an invisible category.
I'd love to find someone that talked about ARFID without solely focusing on "sensory" and "adverse consequences" types, like in her video from a few years ago (which is still worth the watch). Everyone seems to focus on those two things, and never about the "apparent lack of interest in eating". It's also difficult to find info that isn't solely in context of children, hardly ever about adults with ARFID.
I was just diagnosed with it. I’m doing a research paper on it for my English course in college, and the effects of untreated ARFID are almost more dangerous, because of how restrictive some people can be with their disordered eating. It’s really sad. It was added to the DSM-5 only 10 years ago, but it’s crazy how no one still knows about it.
I was treated for bulimia after thinking I had only BED. I can only imagine how hard it is to diagnose someone. Initially, I was convinced that I didn't have a problem that was serious enough to need IDP. I was wrong. It's honestly amazing that anyone ever gets diagnosed, let alone the correct diagnosis.
I had no idea there was something called purging disorder. I was always just told I had bulimia when i never did the binge part. Thank you! Wow. And the A typical anorexia. I learned so many things in this video! Unbelievable. I wish I would have known so long ago. Thanks for all you do.
I read about purging disorder probably 10 years ago or so. I felt so validated, because I had the purging but not the binging. I would restrict, then eat like an apple or whatever, then purge. I was also at the gym 24/7…Since 2018 I’ve swung the other way. My meds for various things make me super tired, so exercising isn’t happening very often…!
Is there any research on eating disorders and poverty? For example, I have skipped dinner for years to save money, and then sometimes I eat and then I feel terrible. When I make meals to take to work, I am very aware that this is just as much about trying to look normal to my coworkers as it is about eating.
Licensed therapist and PhD student here. Yes! Socioeconomic status and eating disorders are strongly correlated, but it's often missed by medical providers and others because of stereotypes, assumptions, or people making efforts to appear "normal" to hide the disorder.
I had an eating disorder in college because of this. I had what I call drinkerexia because I heard that term at some point. That was literally how I got through the day. I restricted my eating to get through the day too, because I was so busy, I only had time to eat when I got home at night. People who hadn't seen me in a while looked shocked when they saw me, and I didn't understand why. I was scared of gaining weight, but most of the time, it wasn't about body image.
Yes yes and yes. Audrey Hepburn's eating disorder started with food scarcity during WWII when she was a teen.
I don't know that it was ever about body image for her, it certainly started as a necessity to deal with being hungry all the time as there wasn't enough food and she struggled with eating for the rest of her life.
@@kristinafisher9772 drinking instead of eating is a technique used by people who have anorexia, but I wonder if we can call it anorexia if you don't have body image issues and don't have fear to gain weight, can anorexia be just physical ? is it different from anorexia nervosa ?
@tr4sh.doll_ I did/do have a fear of gaining weight. I was also really competitive with myself and with others on how much weight I could lose. I don't know what changed after college, but I think they were all contributing factors. My way of thinking at that time and now is really hard to explain. I'm pretty sure I have body dysmorphia at the very least. I was always super skinny up until a certain age. I think something clicked when I saw people's reaction to how unnaturally skinny I had gotten because I didn't even realize I looked abnormal. It's possible my disordered eating is not as severe or could be a subtype. I have a tendency to fluctuate between different types of disordered eating.
I have disordered thoughts but i want to wait to tell my psychiatrist and therapist because i feel like its not bad enough and im just making it up for attention
I'm really surprised ARFID was not in this video. I was looking forward to this because I struggle with the symptoms of it and wanted to learn more
She might have a video detailing it. I’m surprised it’s not mentioned also. You can suggest she talk about it. She accepts video ideas on Sundays for the following couple of weeks.
@@Eshrimpski that's a great idea!
Perhaps that falls diagnostically under OSFED?
@brittanywilcox7377. I think if you are subscribed to her channel you can send in questions on Sundays. It always pops up on my phone. @KatiMorton is really good about being responsive! 😊
@@Me-ei8yd no it's its own thing
Thanks so much for these. Eating disorders are often seen as fitting specific stereotypes that are in the popular imagination, and I feel like many people don't understand that a broader range of thoughts and behaviors can fall under this.
Also ARFID is one that is really misunderstood, I have it, because I have contamination OCD.
Hi Brenda, I previously covered ARFID here: ruclips.net/video/vrzPamMZenE/видео.html
Same! 😢 I’m sorry you struggle with this too but I thought I was alone. Hugs to you. ❤
Love your new haircut! It looks great on you!
I agree, she looks beautiful...a natural beauty.
Me too and I say this as a cosmetologist!
I Suffered with Diabulimia for 15 years, it sucks and has killed so many girls i used to know. It gets so overlooked and still not even recognised medically 😢
Take care of you, and please be accountable to someone you trust. 🙏
You’re amazing Kati, thank you so much. 💕
Thank you so much for talking about this. I absolutely relate to #4 Atypical Binge Eating Disorder. The guilt and shame is pretty intense. And I feel uncomfortable, with too much food in my stomach. I'll even want dessert after even though I'm uncomfortably full. The binging is definitely stress-induced. I'm glad that these milder versions are being talked about and taken more seriously. Food is often easy to turn to for comfort, and it can easily get out of control when we have no other quick way of dealing with stress.
PS. You look great! ^^
Kati you are wonderful. So easy to follow and understand. Great voice. Not too fast or slow. And of course your content is amazing!
Thank you for this video and also for showing examples with people that doesn't fit the stereotypical view of EDs. Thanks for all you do Kati
Thank you for sharing the information! This is an important topic.
Thank you so much for making the invisible visible. This is so precious and important....
I LOVE this! I went from emotional eating/binge eating, to anorexia-purge type, which sounds like I had Purging Disorder. I ended up tearing a hole in my esophagus in my late 20’s…It was horrible.
In 2022 I went to IP, I was Dx with “Bulimia with restriction”…It sounds like I have Atypical Bulimia…I’ve been both under weight and overweight. From 2018 until recently, the majority of my day I would stay busy and skip meals. Then from 6PM until I went to bed, I ate everything in sight…!
I have a lot going on medically and my stress level is severely affecting my stomach…
THANK YOU so much for this video!!! I have felt for over a year that I have some sort of anorexia. My attempts at reaching out for help and support have consistently fallen flat and, at times, invalidated because I'm supposed to be thankful and how they wish they deal with the symptoms. It's to the point when I eat a standard portion of food, it makes me feel sick. Not retching, but headache, nausea, and other gastro symptoms. I don't get taken seriously because of my ADHD and I'm still overweight. I'm going to do more research and pursue it further because I hate this, my attempts to make myself get over it and be thankful for the weight loss has made things worse
Thank you for sharing this❤
This is a great topic that affects so many folks. You make so much sense and present so clearly, which is truly appreciated. Thank you, Katie!
Thanks for saying so! Appreciate you being here. 😊
This was really helpful, thank you❤️
This video is incredibly helpful. I definitely struggled with disordered eating as a teenage athlete. This is video is very helpful to understand the broader names for disordered eating.
love your videos Kati!!
Kati Marton thanks for making such an impressive and informative video
I'll do appreciate if you make a video on causes of acidity.
Wow, this video look so good. I also enjoyed the video, but I wanted to point out that video is great!!
I'm so happy I found your channel! I'm glad you talk about eating disorders with great examples without demonizing them, but I just wanted to share my opinion without harming anyone. I've been struggling with anorexia since I was 13, and I've seen many things and talked to many people about this disorder, and from what I gathered is that osfed is such a hurtful diagnoses for any patient with an eating disorder, everyone talks about how eating disorders are not just about weight and yet here we are with this diagnoses, same as with atypical an, that to have a 'real' eating disorder you have to be underweight, which is definitely not true! and with atypical bulimia, it proves the fact that you have to get more sicker to get the diagnoses of just bulimia. anyone who has recovered or is going through an ed can agree that these minor diagnoses are never enough and you have to get even worse just to get to the real deal, but i'm not speaking for everyone of course. I hope this made sense and I haven't offended anyone, this is soley my opinion and I am open to discussion! everyone's eating disorder is valid no matter what you have been labelled by the doctor :)
I stopped carbs when I weighed in at 130 lbs at a mental health clinic; Ironically so. I got down to 99 lbs.
To be honest at the time being skinny was my only measure of self worth
This is very interesting. Thank you.
I am glad for this video. It’s not quite my situation but I definitely have a dis functional situ so I’m glad that peeps are open to discovery.
Wow I'd never heard of #2 but it makes so much sense when I think of my behaviours
I was surpirised Pica ans ARFID didn't make the cut but thank you fir shedding light on some lesser known ED's!
Atypical Bulimia is the closest description I ever heard for my "eating habits".(I never puked- I thought about it and even wanted, but I never did) I got them under control now, more or less. I think about restricting food once in a while but never act on those thoughts because I don't wanna go back to where I was. I've struggled with emotional eating my whole life and it is still something I have to control a little better. A few years ago I started to just not eat for 1 or 2 days after emotional eating. Gladly I realized what I was doing wasn't the right way and I managed to get it under better control. I have never really talked to anybody about it, because it felt too invalid to call it anything like a ed, because one time I "starve" myself, and then I eat a lot again. It didn't fit in any category (or so I thought).But yeah, all in all, I got it under control rn:) I even got a better self-image now. I don't hate my body anymore. Only the negative comments of my parents throw me back sometimes and make me wanna "relapse", but I manage to not do it.
It's really important to be talking about lesser discussed disorders. It's appalling how many doctors will never discuss eating patterns or thought patterns with a patient unless they fit specific visual criteria. Or they make assumptions based on the visual and don't ask the right questions.
I can't even count how many times I've mentioned being light headed because i haven't eaten that day in front of a doctor and they didn't say a word, or if they did it would be a warning about over eating.
Bulimia nervosa here 🙋🏽♀️ after being hospitalized and gotten help from different psychologists, i still struggle. This has been going on for about 8 years now. Yes i will never give up, but yes it’s very hard to break that cycle and it still is, because I haven’t been able to break it yet. The thing is that i’m happy with myself and accept myself for who i am. It’s just that i has become so “normal” for me and been living with it for so long. It has just shaped into a persistent habit i still can’t seem to break.
I have atypical anorexia with occasional bulimic behavior and I can't tell you how many times I've been misunderstood and dismissed (especially by doctors who don't specialize in EDs) for being a normal weight. My ED medical complications manifest differently because it immediately leads to passing out all of the time and having a dangerous heart rate and I have to go to the hospital within hours or days. So as a result, I don't meet the weight loss criteria for anorexia, yet I still meet all the other criteria. I think a lot of the eating disorder cases you see in the media have also been enabled to an extreme extent, which is not the case for everyone.
Very helpful, ty 💕
Love your advice
xoxo
Excellent video and very helpful. I would really appreciate you showing older women in your examples. These behaviors are common in women over 50.
Maybe because the whole menopause thing triggers weight gain in women. Aging seems to be a sin in our society. I'm 49 yeras old and I am extremely cautious about how I look.
@@niftydom yes I agree. I’m 70 and have lived my whole life struggling with restrictions and feeling not enough.
I am 65 and when I was young I feel I came dangerously close to being anorexic via starvation. I actually do not feel that I need or are hungry enough for 3 meals per day, but I also have a tendency to feel 'not ok or enough' when I am about 20 pounds overweight, which would be common. I just can't seem to make that 20 pounds be acceptable. Is that an eating disorder?
as someone with atypical anorexia who used to have anorexia nervosa, i hate my diagnosis. i spend most of my time trying to get back to my sick body and i’m worse mentally than i was when i was underweight. but of course, no one is really concerned about my behaviors because i don’t look anorexic
I clicked on this randomly out of curiosity but I binge & fast all the time. Like as in always that’s what I always am doing.
This was very interesting. Thank you for explaining eating disorders. I was never diagnosed with eating disorder of any kind, I can see red flags in my behaviour with food and body image. I grew up being told by my father's partner that I was fat, even though no doctor ever said so. A past partner said to me if I ever got fat he would dump me. So from there I always have been extremely cautious with how I look. Most of my adult life I ran a calorie deficit to make sure I don't get fat. Sometimes other people will trigger a trauma or disorder in some people. As for my father's partner, she regularly insulted my body image but never my intelligence so it says a lot about her.
Are you able to cover those with restricted eating due to contamination OCD
That one is called orthorexia
Oftentimes this can land under ARFID (avoidant restrictive food intake disorder) (licensed therapist specialized in EDs here 😊)
@@kelelizabethIsn't arfid sensitibity to textures etc?
@@bokettoooNo, orthorexia is eating only specific foods.
I'm surprised you didn't talk about selective eating disorder, almost no one knows about this disorder and it made my life so hard sometimes
Thank you for making this. I’m in my 30’s and struggle but feel like I shouldn’t talk about it because having an ED is known to affect teens and young adults.
I’ve been struggling since I was 14 with only a couple years of less struggle here and there. With seeing this video I believe I may fall under OSFED but quite often lean more towards Atypical bulimia. I am petrified of being fat it’s not funny. Gain a bit of weight and I have to do something about it.
I have a very strong trauma background and multiple chronic health conditions and more recently (last 4yrs) a couple of disabilities that hugely impact my life. It’s definitely a sense of control, predictability and the feeling it’s really helping me.
What about people who’s eating disorder isn’t about food or weight gain, at all. But about a need for control in a space which feels out of their control ?
Idk, I’ve heard that sometimes anorexia starts as a need for control. But idk that’s a good question
My daughter has ARFED. She’s afraid of nausea/vomiting and restricts her eating to avoid vomiting. It is so hard to watch this.
Omg, nobody else mentioned night eating disorder till now, and it happens to me all the time. I wake up to go to the bathroom and after i go to the kitchen and eat everything I was able to restrict to normal amounts during the day, my will power just disappears and I eat like 300 grams of chocolate. Thank you for talking about this, I thought this only happens to me 😅
I think what helps is avoiding triggers aka not going to kitchen at night but more importantly changing habits in the day and eating meals instead of restricted eating/grazing and staying up past my tiredness. Aka "revenge procrastinating bedtime"
@@CL-mn1yq yeah I agree, that is why I try to eat a healthy dinner mostly protein based to feel full before I go to sleep...Sometimes I succeed sometimes not, but I try 😅
Same. I have a huge problem with this. It’s not as bad when I’m home alone but when my husband comes home from work (he’s gone for weeks at a time and then comes home for two weeks) it gets worse. Embarrassingly enough, I’ve also woken up with completely melted ice cream bars on my chest and unopened bags of chips laying on the pillow next to me. I’ll never forget the time I watched my husband walk to the bathroom from bed with a damn skittle stuck to his back, which promptly fell off in the shower, confusing the hell out of him 😂😂
Thank you. A variation to #1: chewing food and spitting it out.
Thank you for this video Kati. Nobody understands my struggle with food, or the mental exhaustion I get before deciding my next meal, the toughest part is when everybody blames me for overthinking. I can associate with Atypical Bulimia and OSFED. I can never eat a carb food without guily concience only if its followed by excercise, or if its followed by a laxative. Or usually as I self harm, sometimes binging is followed by cutting. Past 2 months, Im trying not to do SH. But your video helps me to understand that.., maybe Im not overreacting, maybe Im struggling and even for these small efforts I take, I should be proud of myself.
OSFED is now referred to as EDNOS, or eating disorder not otherwise specified.
Thank you for this video. I think i really would've needed it when I was yonger and was stuggling with my eating but never in the way of typical anorexia which is why I felt very invalidated.
I’m not really sure which category i would fall under, but i know i struggle with either an eating disorder, or disordered eating. I am considered morbidly obese by BMI standards, and i typically only eat one meal a day. I would consider it a binge meal as my portions are larger than what is necessary. I also feel guilty because i struggle with exercising due to anxiety. I tend to think it would be or is weird if i exercise because of my body shape and weight (even by myself, in my own home). If i do find that i can talk myself into some type of workout, it never lasts long because when i start to feel anxious i end up quitting. I tend to isolate myself from others because i am ashamed at how i look, and try to limit going outside as much as possible because i don’t want others to see me.
With that being said, i do struggle from many other things as well, but do have a therapist and psychiatrist that i check in with regularly. The one thing that i have learned about myself through my therapy process is that sometimes i find it difficult to put into words how I’m feeling, or am embarrassed because i feel a certain way.
I know when i was a teenager our health class in school really only focused on anorexia nervous, and bulimia. They may have touched on binge eating disorder a little both really only focused on the first two. Thanks Kati for the video.
If you only eat one meal a day it makes sense that it would be a very large meal. Seems more like a restrictive ED than BED.
This is extremely similar to what I deal with, it was kinda shocking to see it put to words, but also helped me feel not so alone, so thank you for sharing.
I'm not diagnosed, but I constantly have thoughts of purging, binging, or starving myself. I am overweight and feel very conscious about myself, and my weight. I want to lose weight, but it's so hard.
Huh, I very likely had Atypical Binge Eating Disorder (perhaps a milder case than some?). Definitely had self image issues & emotional eating of comfort foods. I still do binge a little from time to time, but it's been much reduced since seeing a therapist for other mental health concerns. With better mental health, it's easier for me to work on a healthier weight (not by current BMI, but what my joints are happier at) & not have as many cravings when stress hits. Also helps that my needed hysterectomy (Adenomyosis) took away the extra stress & constant period cravings for soda & chocolate (was having 2x-3x a month painful periods). Thanks for bringing attention to these disorders, I've known a few people with a few of these & it's really helpful to bring awareness to others in these situations that they are not alone & that there is help out there.
I tend to oscillate between restrictive eating and binge eating. Because my weight gain and weight loss range is only about 10 lbs, no one seems to notice. I've never had a healthy relationahip with food my entire life, and I used to suffer from binge eating + bulimia when I was younger. I don't force myself to vomit anymore but I admit the desire is still there.
Why is BMI still in use? Because of innertia. It takes time to change things people are used to, even if those things are wrong. BMI does not adequately represent body mass. For example, if you have high muscle mass (healthy eating, healthy exercising person), you will probably be mistakingly considered "obese" when looking at BMI, because muscles are heavier than fat.
Bmi was bs to start and the fact it's still used, yeah. I hope it changes soon
Thank you for validating me 🧡 I just still have so many questions.. majority of my issues with my eating disorder are related to a lot of traumas I’ve endured and I can’t remember a time when I wasn’t like this. I fall more under OSFED/Anorexia (not Nervosa). I have CVS (Cyclic Vomiting Syndrome) and yesterday I learned that Anorexia was one of the symptoms. Whether my CVS symptoms are present or not - I experience Anorexia almost daily; this could be just lying in the bed, looking at my food in the microwave, or in the middle of a meal. It’s not really about body image for me, I’m 5’4 about 100 lbs and I struggle with weight gain and maintenance. It’s not about certain food types either - it’s food as a whole. It repulses me, even if it’s my favorite. I could be super hungry and ready to eat and get turned up in the middle of making it and lose my appetite. Or I’ll get hungry and then my stomach will start to hurt a little. And something that’s not new, but definitely persistent and consistent this past month is my stomach is at a baseline crampy/achey feeling even if it’s very slight and it will last for a while shifting from my from my lower abdomen to my entire stomach hurting a bit. This lasts as long as it wants to This is starting to happen while in the middle of eating… kind of like a phantom full I guess? This brings on anxiety about triggering my CVS, and more low self esteem, making the cycle worse. I don’t really know where to go for advice or help, or even to relate to - as what I experience isn’t really talked about because it’s not as common. Hopefully you can provide me with some guidance 🧡
It sounds like the issues you have are more physical than psychological since you don't have the thought process behind it?? Have you seen a GI Dr abt the stomach pain
I was diagnosed with mental anorexia (and a few other disorders) .... at first I was like Wtf is mental anorexia , but thanks to your video, I guess it falls under atypical anorexia
Would you be willing to do a video or point me in the right direction for help with AFRID? It's a sensory related eating disorder mostly found alongside Autism. Everything I am finding is for helping non-autistic adults with autistic children not for actual autistic adults with AFRID. I'm not sure if I quite meet the offical criteria for diagnosis, but my problems are at least related and I want to be able to eat more "normally". This condition has also given me social anxiety about eating in front of people especially with unfamiliar meals.
Kati already has a video on ARFiD! It is hard to find resources that aren’t aimed at children and even harder to find those that aren’t aimed at those diagnosed with autism as well. I am a diagnosed ADHD/ARFiD adult and it’s so frustrating that there is so little for us out there.
I hope that more people & professionals talk about this.
I have ARFID as well. It's difficult to locate good help for adults & it can be quite debilitating & harmful.
Ty for this video. I'm about to search if you have any content on ARFID in adults
I have a close relative who developed night eating syndrome and it pushed his weight into heavy obesity. He had a Gastric bypass performed a few years ago and that along with therapy have been helping him get his weight under control again
I was thinking 'hmm I can't fully relate to any of these' until night eating syndrome showed up. Thank you Kati
wow, interesting, I never heard of the number one. as for the other 6, I dealt with all of them at times.
hi! i got diagnosed with number one ~1 month ago, and a bit of the information on number one she shared is false. rumination isn't an eating disorder, and is completely involuntary. basically, the brain and nerves are damaged, which causes any food eaten to be perceived as poison by the brain. the person eating knows it's not poison, but the brain disagrees. the brain then sends signals to the stomach muscles to tighten and not digest the food so that it is expelled from the system, which forces it up into the throat, into the mouth, or sometimes out the nose if its liquids. it is not a fun experience lmao and i definitely would not voluntarily experience it
I would love to see the atypical on those who are fat. All the same but not just ok weight but obese
Hey great video. I don't know if this is a recognized eating disorder but I would love to know more about what people call "picky eating". I feel like a lot of people struggle wirh this, parents don't know how to handle it and it is misunderstood.
I think I may win the longevity award. I started this behavior when I was 15 yrs old. 50 YEARS AGO! I started Atkins, fasted for 9 days, gained 150lbs. All the while dieting. My whole life was about getting down to a weight where I would be considered “acceptable”. I’m now 68, need a hip replacement and have been told to lose 20lbs. before I can get it.
I'm number 4. I just did it because I was manic. I'm a Borderline and I drink a lot. I ran out of alcohol and went straight for the food. A LOT of it. I binge so much food I throw up, but it's only every once in a while.
I remember I did it in front of my friend one time (because I was upset about something) and she was shocked because I was piling and stuffing food into my mouth so fast that I'm surprised I didn't choke.
I know a lot of people "hate" labels, but thank goodness there is one for what I'm going through. Labels are good in my opinion.
I had a friend with borderline personality disorder that did the same thing.
I love labels personally as knowing and naming what's going on with me feels like my first step to addressing
What is it when someone starves themself but isn't afraid of weight gain and doesn't have any body image issues related to weight? I did this when I was a teen and never understood it. I'd tell myself I wasn't hungry or more specifically I wasn't able to understand that I was hungry. I never weighed myself and still ate junkfood whenever I felt like it but I kept losing weight until I decided I was too skinny to be healthy and started eating more on purpose. Was it some form of ED?
🥰 Thank you
This has literally infuriated me! Anybody can suffer with anorexia at any body size or weight!
The natural response to restriction via food or exercise is eventually binging on food!
I won't name which 'invisible' eating disorders you've mentioned but in reality it's basically ANOREXIA!
The criteria surrounding weight versus anorexia is currently being recognised and I hope the 'weight' aspect is discarded world wide!
my friend who is a therapist told me a few weeks ago about atypical anorexia. It was such a relief. My whole life is concentrated on my body sice I'm 11 years old (btw I'm 30 now) and my fear of gaining weight is HUGE!!! I only feel good when I'm underweight. I knew I have an eating disorder but I felt ashamed to talk about it to anyone cause I am or felt like I'm "not thin enough" to call myself an anorexic. Even if deep inside me I know its the truth. I even clicked on this video than paused at 4:30 to go check my BMI on different websites, while some say I'm slightly underweight others say I'm good - than I tested with which weight they all say I'm underweight and my brain tells me that I should eat less to finally come to bis Point - EVEN if I know that BMJ is outdated (what you just said a few seconds after I clicked play again).
I was diagnosed with arfid at the hospital and my insurance made an exception for me because i was so sick. They gave me more PT sessions and covers my proton pump inhibitor that they usually dont cover because its either that or monthly CTs and weekly hospital visits. They dont want to pay for that so theyre doing what they can to get me better and i really love them for that.
Oh my God I also had a weird sleep disorder. I think it's parasomnia, because I have a whole different personality that I don't even remember, but apparently I also eat everything within arms reach when that happens. No recollection of it. But my sleep doctor says it's likely because of my ED
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This is all so true 💔
next she should make a video about eating disorders that aren't related to body image issues
In 1986 when I was 16 I developed bulimia and then struggled with it for over 20 years. There were times my weigh was extremely low and unhealthy and I was hospitalized numerous times. My last hospitalization was in 1998. From then until 2021 I gained over 100 lbs. In May of 2021 I had bariatric surgery and lost a lot of weight. However then I developed another eating disorder called chew and spit. I was terrified of gaining the weigh back and my weight stalled at a set point so I started the chewing and spitting which I did not even know was a thing. In Sept 2022 I ended up in residential treatment for the eating disorder. I hated it and when I was discharged the behavior started again. I was able to stop in October 2023 when I went to Colorado for a week to see my cousin. I could not engaged in the ED behavior and I could not weigh myself. When I got home I had actually lost a few pounds even though I had eaten a lot while I was in Colorado. Since then I have been doing well. Last week I had a Panniculectomy to get rid of excess skin on my stomach. I am feeling good and I am excited to have a flat stomach for summer. I still struggle with being terrified to gain weight and not weigh myself all of the time. Eating disorders are awful. They take hole and keep you hostage. They can sneak back in at any time and in any form. I am grateful that right now I am in recovery. It is not linear and there are ups and downs. There is hope even when you do not believe it.
I’m so sorry that you’re going through this right now. Just know no matter what your beautiful I know that’s not going to help you but I mean it
@@SafeplaceForall thanks. I am ok right now. I hope you do not have an eating disorder.
So relate with Taylor I have been eating more in the evening for years and it's un healthy food too . But I eat much more healthy food during the day but eat larger amounts at night I struggle sleeping so I'm extremely tired and find it difficult to focus during the day can't be bothered to take exercise and at 110kgs I'm 40 kgs over weight
Osfed used to be called EDNOS. The changing of names is confusing.
Atypical Anorexia sounds like what im dealing with, having OCD and Perfectionism I'm afraid of me working out too much becoming a harmful obsessive habit. 😢
I have been a "victim" of the BMI criteria, being denied treatment for my binge eating disorder. After gaining around 40 kg in the time span of one year, my BMI was still 0.5 under the limit required to access treatment. I even considered gaining a couple more kg on purpose, but I couldn't make myself do that. Instead, I tried self treatment, ending up in a vicious cicle of binging and fasting and overexercise and various sneaky self harm behavoiurs that spiraled down my already fragile mental health (and didn't make me lose any weight).
I felt my exhusband had an eating disorder not mentioned here. He had a lot of trouble figuring out the executive functions of how to prepare food or acquire food. He would go many hours not eating at all and then get so hungry, he had to eat now but it’s midnight and all the stores and restaurants are closed.
Sounds a bit like adhd, tbh.
Definitely sounds like a symptom of neurodivergence, not an eating disorder. Does he have an issue with body image? That seems to be the root of most of these. I suspect I have autism and/or ADHD and I forget to eat, struggle to focus on meal planning and preparation, and wait too long to eat so that I get nauseated and nothing seems edible.
@@krickett8538sounds like adhd
@@krickett8538yes I have adhd and I have trouble getting food(despite being a teenager) so I’ll often skip meals. Or hyperfocus and completely forget to eat. The problem is my grandpa has been making unneeded comments about my body and how much I’m eating lately so now it’s becoming more deliberate decision of not to eat 😅. But my adhd also contributes a lot to
How about ARFID (Avoidant Restrictive Food Intake Disorder)? My son suffers from this and it's awful!
Orthorexia needs to be mentioned more.
I think it's more a presentation of an eating disorder and would fall under something else like ARFID, which is also not mentioned.
@@bee42Sad I don't necessarily agree. I just think it isn't labeled an eating disorder because of the health and wellness complex industry. But they engage in a ton of restrictive eatings, cutting out whole food groups, etc. The obsession with weight loss in itself, and getting gains. It would just mean gym culture would actually have to be critically assessed.
It’s not in the diagnostic manual..it’s essentially a made up term..from ortho meaning to straighten or perfect..like in orthodontics (teeth)or orthopaedics (bones)
@@meherenow I yet again. Have to emphasize. That classifying Orthorexia as an eating disorder would mean questioning gym culture in its whole. ANd this is why people deny it. They are still focused on weight, the emphasis is on leanness and to morph their body to the extreme of leanness instead of skinny. They focus on calories. They restrict whole food groups. There is a focus around gain. It is pervasive in gym culture. And anxiety about the nutrition and the health of food, etc. Give it a new name, but it fits in the criteria of being a whole ED by itself. But we wouldn't do that because the medical industry is tied in the gym/wellness industry complex.
@@JeanPKlaus it doesn’t need a separate classification all the others diagnoses adequately cover it..most treatment centres address all the concerns you have listed as standard Ed interventions…nothing would be gained by having an additional category..the focus in Ed treatment is now on individualised treatment plans based on symptoms presented…given sufferers have a need and angst to fit diagnostic criteria it would almost be more helpful if a single Ed diagnosis was given and only medical professionals knew the sub categories for treatment purposes. Diagnosistic are to assist treatment, they arent labels or identities
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When you were talking about #7, #5… i felt like that was just normal. I obviously am wrong…
Im glad you said the BMI chart is out of date. I lost 40 lbs in hopes of donating my eggs. But my BMI is still too high. I just really wanted to do a good thing and make enough to put a down payment on a house. Its crazy
Congratulations 🎉 on the 40lb weight loss
Was hoping to hear more about Avoidant and Restrictive food intake disorder (ARFID). My son has it and no one has ever heard of it.
I always thought what I did was binge eat but it's actually atypical bulimia, thanks for the info! (not diagnosing myself, just relating to it very much aha)
I was atypical anorexia and ARFID for the bulk of my young life started around maybe 8 or 9until age 24. I learned to eat a more normal diet along side my youngest child as he transitioned from baby food. Once I learned to enjoy more foods things switched the other way like I have been making up for all the food I didnt eat and now I seem to be unable to stop eating. Atypical binge and night eating syndrome. I have gained a fair amount of weight over the last few years... I am afraid I will just keep gaining because I am afraid if I try to diet that I will go back the other way. I logically understand how to eat a healthy diet but I just cant seem to put this into practice. This is a very frustrating way to be. I sometime think taking Ozempic could help as it makes you feel full and stop cravings and help my body and mind reset. Or is that a cop out? I just know I am feeling out of control and at the mercy of food.
But what about the general diagnosis of "disordered eating?" I'd be curious about that
Isn't that the OSFED one?
From what I've read it's before behaviours can be categorised as any of the ed's and people who are constantly dieting, picking up the lastest, no carbs, no this no that, dieting trends, don't have a good relationship w food or food freedom, but the behaviours aren't obsessive and haven't taken over their life and even thou they are unhappy about their body, for the vast majority of the time life takes precedence over the "diet" rather than when Ur entire life and day to day dealings are Ur eating disorder xx
@@ladybaabaa3294no osfed is still an ed just when u meet multiple criteria from more than 1 of the ed's
You look great. Nice production. Hope you're doing well.
Serious question: I withhold food from myself at times because I feel like I have to ‘earn’ it, is that an eating disorder? Specifically when it comes to the gym, most of my food contains protein which isn’t cheap & so if I go all or nothing with the gym & stop going for a period of time I will not touch the food I bought most of the time, there has been times I’ve barely ate or I’ll eat what my mum makes a lil but I didn’t know it was an issue till I mentioned it to a counsellor once & she was like you don’t withhold food, food is a necessity, you don’t earn it
OH MY GOD YALL I didn't realize night eating syndrome was a thing. I have that. I'm going to do so much research now I'm so excited there's a name for it
Lol I take Seroquel
Would love to hear a video about ARFID!