The Tragedy of Metal Gear Survive

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    For years, Konami’s Metal Gear Solid counted among the few gaming franchises that withstood the test of time across several console generations. Its 1998 debut introduced players to the wonders of stealth-action gameplay and subsequent entries elevated the genre further, laying the groundwork for the advent of Tom Clancy’s Splinter Cell and the like. Unfortunately, turmoil within the company meant the Konami-published saga didn’t have the opportunity to conclude as strong as it started. And its last entry, the universally panned Metal Gear Survive, managed to leave somewhat of a blemish on Metal Gear’s otherwise immaculate legacy.
    Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain, the last mainline instalment, launched in 2015 with a less than satisfactory ending, effectively leaving a bad taste in the mouths of countless MGS faithful. As a spinoff adventure that took the series in a completely different direction, Metal Gear Survive hardly had a chance to succeed on even the basest level. The survival action title wasn’t what fans wanted, especially given the absence of series creator Hideo Kojima.
    Still, the experience offered a fair share of intrigue and fun; yet, by virtue of the alternate universe and zombie-centric premise, Survive struggled to retain the winning charms of its namesake. If anything, Survive’s drastic departure from its progenitors proved that slapping the title of a beloved brand on a new idea wasn’t enough to revive said brand. In this particular case, such a move may have led to the stealth property’s premature demise.
    This is the tragedy of Metal Gear Survive.
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  • @Jack_Uza
    @Jack_Uza 3 года назад +1904

    Always remember we only lost episode 51, chapter 3, a possible sequel for Rising and a game about The Boss for this and pachinko machines.

    • @lazerktulu2693
      @lazerktulu2693 3 года назад +184

      My God, i didn't even knew we lost THAT much. Now, I want Konami to give the rights to Kojima even more. Though that will never happen.

    • @vipset87
      @vipset87 3 года назад +85

      a game about the boss would've been interesting

    • @keybladeslashw900
      @keybladeslashw900 3 года назад +9

      Definitely worth it

    • @perlosia
      @perlosia 3 года назад +128

      @@lazerktulu2693 Tbh I think Kojima is happy to do something other than MGS, he did it for 20 years and now he can do other things...

    • @bigcade554
      @bigcade554 3 года назад +78

      A game about The Boss would be lame imo. It's better to leave that period of MGS lore as lore. And Chapter 3 is literally just a post game, it's not what everyone convinced themselves it was. The only actual cut content for MGSV was mission 51 and the ability to control the Battle Gear (cut for being too OP).
      People need to accept the game was released largely as intended, the "unfinished" feeling was Kojima being meta so the players could feel a "phantom pain". This was confirmed by the writer of the movelisation, who also helped write the game, and Death Stranding, so it's as close to Kojima saying it himself as possible.

  • @arniemarnie
    @arniemarnie 3 года назад +419

    They played us like a damn fiddle!

  • @Assassin0Ninja
    @Assassin0Ninja 3 года назад +1091

    MGS fans reaction to MG survive: "Why are we still here? Just to suffer?

    • @pinbox5814
      @pinbox5814 3 года назад +38

      @PogChamp You have to buy save slots.

    • @k_kubes
      @k_kubes 3 года назад +17

      @PogChamp yes, you have to pay for a extra save slot

    • @Sci-Fi_Freak_YT
      @Sci-Fi_Freak_YT 3 года назад +6

      @PogChamp I got it and returned it the same day, it’s really that bad of a title.

    • @IceBreak23
      @IceBreak23 3 года назад +6

      @PogChamp lol you only know this now? Konami was always scummy

    • @jesusrodriguez3728
      @jesusrodriguez3728 3 года назад +6

      @PogChamp lmao looks like you haven't even played it

  • @sebastiangreenan1774
    @sebastiangreenan1774 3 года назад +1583

    "Have you ever heard the tragedy of Metal Gear Survive?"
    "No."
    "It's not a legend Konami would tell you."

    • @williamlydon2554
      @williamlydon2554 3 года назад +6

      Beat me to the joke 🤗

    • @t.r.2283
      @t.r.2283 3 года назад +11

      I love how people bash konami for right reasons buuut forget to mention what happens if the big stars go solo and than create a ups walking simulator

    • @coreymckee4844
      @coreymckee4844 3 года назад +5

      @@alifayazi9496 legend? Lol yeah that line dont fit MG Survive.🤣 it dont deserve that honor.

    • @JohnStewart223
      @JohnStewart223 3 года назад

      Darth plagues would be so proud

    • @kieranrollinson8750
      @kieranrollinson8750 3 года назад

      Too complicated. I actually had to THINK about what you were referencing. :D :D

  • @Shift_Salt
    @Shift_Salt 3 года назад +650

    So Konami purposefully neutered their production staff for the game out of paranoia that they'd "Make another Kojima."
    Wow, just wow Konami.

    • @kummakummakummakummakummac8606
      @kummakummakummakummakummac8606 3 года назад +14

      I know right. I don't even know what to say to that.

    • @Krystalmyth
      @Krystalmyth 3 года назад +62

      Disgusting. This proves there's a narcissist at the helm who hates Kojima and wanted to take over the company. I'm going with BASTARD YOTA, though CUNNING YUJI is quite specific toward a takeover attempt. Either way, this was a backstabbing of creative minds and their legacy. In a pursuit of coin, the death of a legendary developer.

    • @ShivaM-dc4xe
      @ShivaM-dc4xe 3 года назад +9

      well it was made by kojima so it should be a kojima game. what is the ego problem in this lmao

    • @Shift_Salt
      @Shift_Salt 3 года назад +59

      @@ShivaM-dc4xe I guess Konami got pissy that more people talked about Kojima than the company itself. So obviously the best idea was to shoot what little of a reputation they had in the foot, amazing.

    • @estacion7386
      @estacion7386 3 года назад +7

      @@ShivaM-dc4xe So kojima is a writter, engineer, cgi modeler, fx master, military advisor XD?

  • @cybersoldierforever
    @cybersoldierforever 3 года назад +440

    It’s something that Konami wouldn’t tell us about.

    • @wolfensniper4012
      @wolfensniper4012 3 года назад +11

      All about Pachinko machines

    • @joetroutt7425
      @joetroutt7425 3 года назад +2

      Konami be like let's sell them crack (pachinko) instead of coke (video game) and we'll make tons of money.

  • @raidencan95
    @raidencan95 3 года назад +186

    1:18 i always knew, Kojima were a Shrek fan

    • @CoolSs
      @CoolSs 3 года назад +10

      Haha did not even realize that until you pointed it out

    • @TechGamesAU
      @TechGamesAU 3 года назад +7

      1:19*

    • @ballswalls8189
      @ballswalls8189 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/omQ-G7dxq8s/видео.html

    • @Sorutoku
      @Sorutoku 3 года назад +4

      Shrek is Love Shrek is Life

  • @Xaito
    @Xaito 3 года назад +55

    The restructure at Konami explains the changes in the gaming industry. Instead of people with visions, who are passionate about the art, games and franchise, leadership consists now of people who care about monetization schemes.

  • @IQ2992
    @IQ2992 3 года назад +475

    This feels like a eulogy for a dead friend. :(

  • @TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs
    @TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs 3 года назад +1434

    I'm still salty that 70% of the way through MG5 the game just sort of ended

    • @luminosity01
      @luminosity01 3 года назад +38

      more like repetitive

    • @ballswalls8189
      @ballswalls8189 3 года назад +3

      ruclips.net/video/omQ-G7dxq8s/видео.html

    • @Lucifronz
      @Lucifronz 3 года назад +177

      I doubt it would have been complete had Kojima been given more time, but I'm positive it would have been *more* complete if Konami weren't trying to shove him out the door and make one last quick buck off his work.

    • @arsmariastarlight3567
      @arsmariastarlight3567 3 года назад +70

      @@Lucifronz I'm pretty sure that's the case. Konami are eager to kick him out of the company ASAP before he managed to finish MGSV. Because when I played the game and the game ended I just sort of... What? Knowing that the ending seems awkward and definitely unfinished

    • @nomercy8989
      @nomercy8989 3 года назад +135

      Sounds like you are experiencing Phantom Pain

  • @bowenc24
    @bowenc24 3 года назад +292

    If they wanted to do a spin-off they should’ve done something with the whole building up your own mercenary company. I really enjoyed that part of mgs 5 and felt like they could’ve done more with it.

    • @Krystalmyth
      @Krystalmyth 3 года назад +9

      Doing more isn't something Konami has any need to do anymore. They got taken over by a sleazeball who wanted to grease his pockets.

    • @proxysoldier2946
      @proxysoldier2946 3 года назад +12

      imho, it would be more acceptable and easy for konami just to launch a battle royale MGS game (which i admit would be interesting considering how good the movement system in the fox engine) instead of releasing stale idea like a zombie survival game

    • @luichinplaystation610
      @luichinplaystation610 3 года назад +3

      Portable Ops and Peace Walker are the games that let you do that

    • @estacion7386
      @estacion7386 3 года назад +1

      XD The system of the "rescue" and "building" of survive is better than mgs v, more close to peace walker than mgs v.

    • @arx3516
      @arx3516 3 года назад +5

      @@Krystalmyth i'm quite sure that Konami is now just a front for the yakuza.

  • @chumorgan443
    @chumorgan443 3 года назад +25

    Survive was like watching a murdered loved one put on puppet strings and made to dance.

  • @dannyboy32125
    @dannyboy32125 3 года назад +152

    I really like how the guy sounds like the How It's made narrator. You've earned a subscription.

    • @andrewparks162
      @andrewparks162 3 года назад +4

      Steve Petitt has such a silky voice!!! Absolutely no offence meant to the geezer but his voice in these videos help me to get to sleep sometimes!

    • @proximabear1432
      @proximabear1432 3 года назад +3

      He's the best narrator!

    • @ballswalls8189
      @ballswalls8189 3 года назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/omQ-G7dxq8s/видео.html

    • @dannyboy32125
      @dannyboy32125 3 года назад +1

      @@ballswalls8189 I don't know how I feel about this 😂

    • @Fazeshyft
      @Fazeshyft 3 года назад

      He sounds way more badass than the narrator of How It's Made that I remember.

  • @SalusFuturistics
    @SalusFuturistics 3 года назад +86

    People forget that Kojima said, if Rising got a Sequel, it'd be about Nanomachine Zombies, before he was let go.
    Then, Konami made a Game about Nanomachine Zombies, completely missing the Point (Or the Punchline)

    • @n0zo.143
      @n0zo.143 3 года назад +4

      Thats probably the reason you use a stick

    • @TRBG
      @TRBG 3 года назад

      Yup I remember this except it was going to have frank yager

  • @bluekewne
    @bluekewne 3 года назад +32

    9:06 small correction - a "Konami Sport Club" is basically a gym/fitness center chain in Japan, with excersize equipment etc (think 24Hour Fitness/Planet Fitness/Gold's Gym/etc), has nothing to do with actual sports. I saw one in Tenjin, Fukuoka in 2019 when I saw the Konami logo and wanted to know what it was - no games or pachinko, just a fitness gym.

  • @I_am_ENSanity
    @I_am_ENSanity 3 года назад +297

    Let us never forget that they expected use to pay for a save slot.

    • @shooter5769
      @shooter5769 3 года назад +14

      Actually that's false, it was about paid slots for new characters, there wasn't any point in making more anyway since there was chapter select.

    • @Numbingbird
      @Numbingbird 3 года назад +57

      @@shooter5769 It’s horse shit either way. Monster Hunter World/Rise didn’t charge me 10 dollars if I wanted to make a new character. Neither does Destiny 2 and these are are big games!

    • @sgr_sean
      @sgr_sean 3 года назад +11

      @@Numbingbird because the save slots in survive did not even work like traditional save slots like it would for those games
      You shared inventory and gear from all saves, meaning all end game gear you got, can be brought to a starter character
      all the resource farms you build. are shared aswell meaning if you had 4 characters, (which they gave you the currency for free anyway by logging in, but nobody cared about that or didnt mention it on purpose to make it seem worse than it was...)
      you would have more resources to pull from, more attempts for weeklies since there was a weekly base defense game for endgame stuff, and an expanded shared inventory.
      i know people love saying "They sold save slots" cause it makes it easy to hate, but it there was way more to it than that. Enough to completly excuse them from doing it? maybe not, but definitely overblown if you actually research it.

    • @OVERkiller2020NewPge
      @OVERkiller2020NewPge 3 года назад +28

      @@sgr_sean Okay... If that's the case then they shouldn't have even offered the additional save slots for purchase to begin with.
      But they did... But no you're completely right let's just forgive them because they certainly only had the consumers best interests in mind when attempting to sell those additional save slots to farm additional resources and rewards that have nothing of real value. They certainly weren't looking to make as much profit as they possibly could. Everyone who disagrees is just a hater hating on a good gaming corporation who only care for profits.
      Yeah that COMPLETELY justifies selling save slots.

    • @marcusborderlands6177
      @marcusborderlands6177 3 года назад +28

      @@sgr_sean my dude, that is called new game plus, and it's FREE in 99% of other games...

  • @MrErodriguezd
    @MrErodriguezd 3 года назад +39

    You know what, i am glad that metal gear ended on the phantom pain. It may had been imperfect, but at least it was a true metal gear game through it all that was fun to play. This... Thing is an abomination that should never see the light of day.

  • @BlindMango
    @BlindMango 3 года назад +69

    It was really just a quick zombie cash grab by Konami, honestly way more effort was put into this video than Konami put into Metal Gear Survive lol

    • @gamepad3173
      @gamepad3173 3 года назад +2

      I'd prefer Resident Evil over Metal Gear survive. at least with RE it makes more sense that way than throwing in zombies for a stealth action game.

  • @Darksiders2988
    @Darksiders2988 3 года назад +43

    " It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you..."

  • @shane3674
    @shane3674 3 года назад +257

    Everyone knew what this was going to be without Kojima.

    • @lordemmerich
      @lordemmerich 3 года назад +14

      Many MG games were done without Kojima as a director/writer before Survive... Metal gear ghost babel, acid 1-2, portable ops, rising...

    • @shane3674
      @shane3674 3 года назад +12

      @@lordemmerich I knew rising wasn’t but that turned out amazing. But it was the only one I knew he wasn’t a part of

    • @lordemmerich
      @lordemmerich 3 года назад +11

      @@shane3674 the others usually are less known. Due to being too different or just bad luck.
      Kojima wanted more non Kojima games. Mgs4 even started non Kojima. But fans usually are hostile against those.
      I hope people still will give the staff chances in the future. MG will return one day.

    • @uppercutgrandma4425
      @uppercutgrandma4425 3 года назад

      Better dialogue?

    • @iroquoisv
      @iroquoisv 3 года назад +1

      @@shane3674 kojima team made the beginning foundations for mgr like some of the basic animations and the raiden model before it got given to platinum games to develop the idea of the story further and the gameplay mechanics

  • @jonbourgoin182
    @jonbourgoin182 3 года назад +249

    Konami is a prime example of “you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain”

    • @fitzviandraduivenab2790
      @fitzviandraduivenab2790 3 года назад +22

      Nintendo and Blizzard are also strong contenders

    • @Sci-Fi_Freak_YT
      @Sci-Fi_Freak_YT 3 года назад +15

      @@fitzviandraduivenab2790 not super sure about Nintendo but yeah Blizzard has definitely taken up that mantle.

    • @TuTataElDaddy
      @TuTataElDaddy 3 года назад +2

      @@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT Nintendo as well

    • @skoomamuch356
      @skoomamuch356 3 года назад +3

      Pardon my ignorance.
      Why nintendo

    • @shadowx2229
      @shadowx2229 3 года назад +2

      @@skoomamuch356 greed

  • @albg9272
    @albg9272 3 года назад +174

    F in the chat for Metal Gear fans when this came out

  • @deadhunt4939
    @deadhunt4939 3 года назад +538

    The Tragedy being that it exists

    • @riperonirigatoni2394
      @riperonirigatoni2394 3 года назад +16

      Based

    • @1e33n7
      @1e33n7 3 года назад +14

      The tragedy of existing…

    • @abyss9316
      @abyss9316 3 года назад +7

      That's so funny I thought the same exact thing when I just read the title of the video

    • @rifqimujahid4907
      @rifqimujahid4907 3 года назад +4

      @@riperonirigatoni2394 ow exercising internet lingo are we edgelord?

    • @Sichunter95
      @Sichunter95 3 года назад +9

      And yet if it was something kojima put out, you would all suck him off for it. Metal gear fans are idiots i swear.

  • @WiddlyScuds2909
    @WiddlyScuds2909 3 года назад +98

    Although the editing and production value is top notch, this dudes voice MAKES this channel the best it can be. No other narrator can do it like this.

    • @jonathandempsey9228
      @jonathandempsey9228 2 года назад +9

      He also narrates the how it’s made videos as well.

    • @RexAtirai
      @RexAtirai 2 года назад +3

      Sounds like he's on discovery channel

    • @spartida3850
      @spartida3850 2 года назад +3

      @@jonathandempsey9228 I knew his voice sounded familiar! the narrator’s voice definitely gives this a professional quality feeling lol

    • @playstationpapi747
      @playstationpapi747 2 года назад

      Facts. It makes other RUclips videos about games not that great.

    • @borisp9988
      @borisp9988 2 года назад

      If so try also Ahoy channel. You should like it :) too bad it's probably dead, but what is there is a lot and very good.

  • @kitezzz360
    @kitezzz360 3 года назад +236

    metal gear survives by breathing through its skin

  • @ARIXANDRE
    @ARIXANDRE 3 года назад +49

    A tragedy to see MGS and the FOX Engine dragged in the mud with this aberration.

  • @kieranking7173
    @kieranking7173 3 года назад +15

    Of all reports of Konami post-Phantom Pain, this is somehow the most comprehensive, detailed one, without being too long. Well done.

  • @TheSnoozeFox
    @TheSnoozeFox 3 года назад +13

    It still feels weird living in a gaming landscape where MGS no longer exists

    • @drcgad3052
      @drcgad3052 2 года назад +5

      It still exists, it's just stuck in limbo.

  • @bigcade554
    @bigcade554 3 года назад +11

    There is actually some evidence to suggest Kojima may have had knowledge of Survive while still at Konami and perhaps was even involved in it's early planning, it had origins as a MGSV DLC, and some mechanics and concepts between Survive and Death Stranding overlap.

  • @Skip2TheEnd
    @Skip2TheEnd 3 года назад +11

    Metal Gear Survive; “Youuuu’ve killled meee!”
    Everyone: “GOOD!!!”

  • @Hikirayy
    @Hikirayy 3 года назад +31

    Felt sad today and opened youtube,gotta thank it for giving me this video that was uploaded a minute ago

  • @unbearifiedbear1885
    @unbearifiedbear1885 3 года назад +129

    Never in gaming has the word _"Tragic"_ been so accurate

    • @ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx
      @ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx 3 года назад +2

      MG survive didnt exist, MGS 5 story wise was unfinished sadly

    • @unbearifiedbear1885
      @unbearifiedbear1885 3 года назад +3

      @@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx ......um wut?!

    • @xxxalphaeverythingxxx8489
      @xxxalphaeverythingxxx8489 3 года назад +2

      Are you living under a rock or have you never heard of Cyberpunk?

    • @unbearifiedbear1885
      @unbearifiedbear1885 3 года назад +4

      @@xxxalphaeverythingxxx8489 Cyberpunk was perfectly in line with past shambolic Witcher releases, people just have terrible memories
      All the warning signs were there for years before launch

    • @gamenetic6426
      @gamenetic6426 3 года назад +1

      Fallout ...

  • @DocDoesGamingTV
    @DocDoesGamingTV 3 года назад +9

    "Metal Gear Survive"
    Narrator voice: "Metal Gear did in fact *not* survive."

  • @enriquepiquim.6245
    @enriquepiquim.6245 3 года назад +58

    The way Kojima managed to pull a "fuck you" note out of V, aimed towards Konami, and its exaggerated meta will always be part of the franchise' highest achievements.

  • @DrumEagle
    @DrumEagle 3 года назад +7

    All other GVMERS-videos: "The Rise And Fall Of..."
    MGSurvive: "There was no rise, just a tragedy!"

  • @Jenazad.
    @Jenazad. 3 года назад +166

    "I thought my life was a tragedy but now I realize it's a comedy" would sum up this game perfectly.

  • @Mogeko_Ranger
    @Mogeko_Ranger 3 года назад +36

    There's two endings in this game, and one of them shows that all of Metal Gear Survive was nothing but a dream, and you're simply a soldier wandering the desert in Afghanistan, just like those side missions in MGS5 to unlock old Mother Base members, that ending is canon to me.

    • @yuiindiegamingchannel9424
      @yuiindiegamingchannel9424 2 года назад +6

      From zombie survival game turned into some sort of psycho game, lol.
      But at least, that made whole sense

    • @christopherriley2406
      @christopherriley2406 2 года назад +7

      trust me we all wish this was a dream

    • @VooXoo
      @VooXoo Год назад +2

      from what I know the wandering soldier ending happens if the player chooses to escape the survive world with the wormgate
      and when it happens his memories get scrambled
      he becomes one of the lost and confused soldiers from motherbase that Snake can find and re-recruit in MGS5
      hinting that the other confused soldiers didn't survive 9 years wandering in a daze but Snake just found other that returned with a wormgate a little before
      possibly all the other dazed soldiers that returned died in their confusion
      makes us think that maybe when Kojima don't wanted a zombie game he wanted to make something about them, and the staff working on survive repurposed them and gave a explanation to how they were alive in random parts of the map in MGS5

    • @techMan_25
      @techMan_25 7 дней назад

      Me when I don't pay attention to the story

  • @MetalGearW0lf
    @MetalGearW0lf 3 года назад +14

    This must be the most positive rated MG-Survive video out there.

  • @nocultist7050
    @nocultist7050 3 года назад +5

    I actually was very surprised how they handled the concept. There was actually an already established plot for Survive in MGSV. A squad that was away from the motherbase on some OPS while the XOF blew the place up. Suddenly the communication is dead, no information, no support coming and you and your squadmates are stranded on enemy territory. You need to establish a temporary base of operations and find out what happened to the motherbase. After you learn that there is no support coming and there is no place for you to return to you can start forming a small private military and work as a mercenary to survive in war-torn part of the world. Why zombies?

  • @JimmyTurner
    @JimmyTurner 3 года назад +55

    I remember when this came out my friend got it and played it for about 10 hours before he realized it wasn't getting any better. He was a big metal gear fan. He was so upset.

  • @ivanmcgann1989
    @ivanmcgann1989 3 года назад +7

    Using MGS3 as a template the tools are there to make a MGS survival game where you forage for supplies behind enemy lines

  • @Roler42
    @Roler42 3 года назад +6

    This game needed to seriously have an offline mode.
    It also needed to be it's own IP instead of spitefully hanging off the Metal Gear IP when public perception of Konami was a it's all time worst.

    • @drakenaenae6244
      @drakenaenae6244 3 года назад +4

      Thats the thing Konami needs that title for people to buy the game. Which kinda backfired to Konami since the way Konami handled Kojima and his team in a bad way which make most MGS fans lost trust with Konami. Ended with bad sales too. I agree that Konami needs to leave MGS series alone and create a new IP to gain consumer trust. They can touch the MGS series maybe sometime in the future with proper budget and hire passionate creators who respect the original vision of MGS. But yeah, Konami direction nowadays are mostly on Pachinko machines.

  • @dc8836
    @dc8836 3 года назад +2

    The fantastic Fox Engine being locked away is the real tragedy, IMO. It's a pretty impressive piece of work. It would be like if Capcom shelved their RE Engine after we saw how optimized and powerful it was in RE7.

    • @lordemmerich
      @lordemmerich 3 года назад

      I mean Capcom did even worse with the Pentha Rei engine. Making a new gen engine and literally only using it on a canceled game.
      As much i love FOX, it's still a 11 years old engine now. So when the next MG game is done, they might replace it.

    • @kicapanmanis1060
      @kicapanmanis1060 3 года назад

      @@lordemmerich what next MG game though?

    • @lordemmerich
      @lordemmerich 3 года назад

      @@kicapanmanis1060 we don't know. But MG will return for sure.

  • @triadwarfare
    @triadwarfare 3 года назад +2

    I hear the quote in my head "Have you heard of the Tragedy of Metal Gear Survive?" in Palpatine's voice thanks to it being similar to "Dark Plaguis the wise"

  • @armorytarded3983
    @armorytarded3983 3 года назад +16

    A metal gear game without Kojima is like a car without an engine, it will still have doors, wheels and seats to sit on but it will not go anywhere.

    • @armorytarded3983
      @armorytarded3983 3 года назад +2

      @2 Corinthians 4:7-11 hilarious 😆🤣😂😄 👍

  • @C-M-E
    @C-M-E 3 года назад +8

    People seem to forget that Kojima didn't really want to make MGS IV (which I loved but understood his feelings), but was pressured into doing so, and really, REALLY didn't want to make V. Like many others, it was a game I watched the countdown clock for months after it went live, and as launch day arrived, prayed I'd survive an impending heart attack waiting for it to unlock. Then, the disappointment began, and blow by blow, it seemed that Kojima was intent on killing his franchise even if Konami wasn't hell bent on doing it faster. Anyone who played it (and the rest of the series previously) could tell his heart wasn't in it 100%, but that didn't stop or excuse the tirade of BS that Konami put him and his team through, especially removing his name from the game right before release. That's some next-level fuckery that I still haven't forgotten.
    It wasn't helped by the fact that the team spent the first 3 years of development just building the Fox engine, then had a year to make a game with it under insurmountable pressure.

  • @aroccoification
    @aroccoification 3 года назад +2

    This channel is so good. It litterally feels like I'm watching a documentary on television. Your writer and voice over are particularly exceptional

  • @solidsnake6405
    @solidsnake6405 3 года назад

    You make damn fine videos!! The Narrator is frecking top notch.keep up the fantastic work.

  • @fohhee
    @fohhee 3 года назад +43

    Metal Gear Survive is not a tragedy,
    It's a comedy.

    • @estacion7386
      @estacion7386 3 года назад +3

      xD all of mgs lore is a huge comedy XD

    • @IAmAlpharius20
      @IAmAlpharius20 Год назад

      ​@@estacion7386NANOMACHINES SON

  • @riegen.
    @riegen. 3 года назад +3

    All the great potentials of the MGS franchise had, was leaded to that DAMN PACHINKO MACHINES!

  • @PersianGamer36
    @PersianGamer36 3 года назад +32

    I remember not getting this until my wife thought to get it for me on Father’s Day. So I played it and was ok in the start then realized the issues after a few hours. But man the engine is amazing. The fact my older pc can run mgsv in 4k 60 is sheer mind blowing

    • @SyamDaRos-EndoManno
      @SyamDaRos-EndoManno 2 года назад

      Wait a minute... Did you marry your daughter?

    • @werdpankuen9183
      @werdpankuen9183 2 года назад +2

      @@SyamDaRos-EndoManno I hope this is a joke. His wife got him a gift as he is a father. He would get her a Mother’s Day gift as she is a mother. Not because they parent each other

  • @kylehunter2674
    @kylehunter2674 3 года назад +4

    I just want you guys to know these videos are truly great. I can actually watch these with my wife and it feels like a serious documentary. For this I thank you 🙏🏽

  • @flaminashes4693
    @flaminashes4693 3 года назад +13

    Kojima knows Shrek is a good anime

  • @captaintusk5091
    @captaintusk5091 3 года назад +38

    The History channel needs to hire you for documentaries.

    • @nikkity5491
      @nikkity5491 3 года назад +12

      Why would he want to downgrade?

    • @r.daneel.90
      @r.daneel.90 3 года назад +5

      They are fine with Nazi alien documentaries.

    • @dakiler2028
      @dakiler2028 3 года назад +1

      Why would I want videogames in my History Channel experience? It would go against my duck hunting - storage selling - alien abducted - UFO - nazi fetish

    • @triadwarfare
      @triadwarfare 3 года назад

      Nope, TV production schedules mean that he has to make more episodes and compress them into a "season" and ruin his quality and creative control due to timelines and deadline.

    • @ballswalls8189
      @ballswalls8189 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/omQ-G7dxq8s/видео.html

  • @izaacchirac5061
    @izaacchirac5061 3 года назад +1

    Very well made and informative, thank you!

  • @DakarrtheTerminator
    @DakarrtheTerminator 3 года назад +2

    6:40 metal gear lore the most consistent and set in stone lore in the world truly

    • @lutherheggs451
      @lutherheggs451 3 года назад +1

      LMFAO that's hilarious and, yet there are people who actually do try and claim that.

  • @Dakurar
    @Dakurar 2 года назад +3

    Kojima kills me. "MGS isn't about zombies, but IF i were to add them, this is what they'd look like."

  • @MKMadness
    @MKMadness 3 года назад +6

    The begin cutscenes were really well done, made me even hyped to play the game till the damn portal openend up. I thought this game was about you building a new PF and taking revenge but nope it was a zombie game that no one asked for.

    • @chriscormac231
      @chriscormac231 3 года назад +2

      imagine if it was that, and the main character was mosquito, culminating in that final mission, the raid on mother base, how you end is dependant in your mercenary score and hero rating, lowest gets you shot with a sniper rifle, low you get shot in a shootout with venom, med gets you yeeted over the railing, high gets you shot with a fulton rocket and highest has a montage of your men dissapearing one by one in the background, until you're the only one left with no hostages, you get held up from behind and interrogated before the fulton pack gets put on you and you fly high into the sky

  • @d_ruggs
    @d_ruggs 2 года назад +1

    its sad that the last real MGS will never be finished, and we know we will never get the artists full story... that final shot of snake saluting actual made me kind of emotional thinking about it. fuck i love those games

  • @Krystalmyth
    @Krystalmyth 3 года назад

    Thank you for not naming this the Rise and Fall of Metal Gear. I don't think I'd have been able to keep from breaking down.
    I know that sounds ridiculous, but I just realized I was already on the edge of tears when I noticed the tact in your title...
    Ty for all you do GVMERS.

  • @ttprophet
    @ttprophet 3 года назад +4

    even tho it failed, I think it gave us a window into a universe lore that isn't as alternative to the source material as we might think. as an idea and a game as a whole, it may have flopped internationally, but the script and themes tell us there is more to the story of metal gear solid than just a pseudo-historical tactical espionage saga.

  • @mohammadhussien5223
    @mohammadhussien5223 3 года назад +30

    I remember the announcement of this Joke of a game, when I first saw I was like RIP MGS Franchise.

    • @PlebNC
      @PlebNC 3 года назад +6

      I was open to giving it a chance. Then heard about the base you can dump resources into and the microtransactions and I immediately passed on it because it was pretty clear they were going to use the resource grind to encourage microtransaction purchases.

    • @kummakummakummakummakummac8606
      @kummakummakummakummakummac8606 3 года назад +2

      I remember when this was announced. A large majority of fans were like "Fuck Konami". Every so often someone wouldn't shit on the game but there wasn't many of them.

    • @ballswalls8189
      @ballswalls8189 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/omQ-G7dxq8s/видео.html

  • @GAMEPRO24X
    @GAMEPRO24X 3 года назад +2

    as someone who made alot of videos documenting and covering the game's mechanics. it was an interesting ride but brutal as hell for any new players. The gameplay loop was ok as well but what really killed it for me was the serious lack of content. after year 1 of playing the game the devs just fucked off and we didnt get anything new that was substantial. I along with a small handful of people kept the game alive for that year. helping each other, making guides and providing resources to any newer players that wanted to give the game a shot.

  • @ossiehalvorson7702
    @ossiehalvorson7702 3 года назад

    RUclips: So how many ads do you want?
    GVMERS: Yes.

  • @dakimuraohana
    @dakimuraohana 3 года назад +6

    My wife and I really thought it wasn’t that bad. The jelly fish monster is still nightmare fuel Lol

    • @shooter5769
      @shooter5769 3 года назад

      Definetely hardest boss

    • @dwarvernbard9782
      @dwarvernbard9782 3 года назад

      Arguably the game was good but the problem comes from the question; Did this need to ba a Metal Gear Solid game?
      EDIT: Allow me to clarify that I meant that if this game didn't have the Metal Gear name associated with it it may not have been looked at like it was and people could have enjoyed the game for what it could have been without the expectations of a triple A game attached. I honestly think it could have been a solid B or A rank game by itself

    • @henshimai
      @henshimai 3 года назад

      @@dwarvernbard9782 It's not a Metal Gear Solid game, hence the title. It's a Metal Gear spin off game, just like Rising. I mean, don't get me wrong, Konami is freaking bad, but still the game deserves a chance. The thing is, this game was made in a wrong place, at a wrong time.

  • @Packers786
    @Packers786 3 года назад +11

    Me and my friend were just talking about how terrible this game was yesterday

  • @EinFelsbrocken
    @EinFelsbrocken 3 года назад

    Great video, gumers!

  • @edusszfx
    @edusszfx 3 года назад +1

    Great piece. Something interesting in a similar topic would be the history of Castlevania.

  • @gabrielleon5279
    @gabrielleon5279 3 года назад +4

    I miss metal gear

  • @Adrius91
    @Adrius91 3 года назад +3

    I can just hope that the engine ends up used in some good titles moving forward. Real impressive tech.

  • @SKXgloomy
    @SKXgloomy 3 года назад

    Love this video, narration is good! Maybe rise and fall of Earthbound ( Mothers series)? :)

  • @aliazimian
    @aliazimian 3 года назад

    12:00 that sheep is an easter egg referring to Kazohira's "Why are we still here, just to suffer" line .

  • @healthysandwich1503
    @healthysandwich1503 3 года назад +3

    A simple rearranging of the name could have solved a few problems, IMO
    “SURVIVE: a metal gear story “

  • @kinggaahljr7796
    @kinggaahljr7796 3 года назад +10

    Currently 4am in Australia, was gonna go to bed but after this lol

    • @TommyCeltic
      @TommyCeltic 2 года назад

      Well, you can't go out in Australia, so you might as well stay in bed.

    • @kinggaahljr7796
      @kinggaahljr7796 2 года назад +1

      @@TommyCeltic I am apart of off-brand Australia (Tasmania) so I'm good ;)

    • @TommyCeltic
      @TommyCeltic 2 года назад +1

      @@kinggaahljr7796 Fair enough. 🤣 Take it easy, mate.

  • @JonathonSantiago
    @JonathonSantiago 3 года назад

    Masterfully done. As always.

  • @TheZOMBIEJ
    @TheZOMBIEJ 3 года назад +2

    awesome documentary (as usual)! can you guys do a documentary on the rise and fall of Vietcong? it's a Vietnam War-era franchise that, as far as i know, has only two main installments in the franchise; "Vietcong" (2003) and "Vietcong 2" (2005) plus an expansion; "Vietcong: Purple Haze" (2004) and a DLC; "Vietcong: Red Dawn" (year unknown)! there is definitely a story to be told here! thank you for your time! ^_^

  • @jimpatterson1111
    @jimpatterson1111 3 года назад +13

    I’m fascinated by the narrator’s voice. I have to place a face to the voice. I already know that it isn’t anything like I picture. That’s a neutral statement, it’s always the case with great voices.

    • @BFKAnthony817
      @BFKAnthony817 3 года назад +1

      Ah yeah he is a really cool guy. Been recording narration for these guys for years since they did an Evolution of Battlefield video back in the day. You should check it out, really cool video too.
      ruclips.net/video/3ttSfRr4rbs/видео.html

  • @livinglie5598
    @livinglie5598 3 года назад +3

    Did anyone of you played Survive? Because I feel like the only few who played it.

    • @shooter5769
      @shooter5769 3 года назад +2

      I did, even took care of all achievements. It starts terribly but eventually gets good, especially in multiplayer.

  • @_gungrave_6802
    @_gungrave_6802 3 года назад +1

    The overall story of Metal Gear concluded with the 5th game. What I want os a Metal Gear Rising sequel to continue Raiden's story as the first game left with quite the cliffhanger tease of an ending. Other than an MGSR 2 they can always do remakes of the first two Metal Gear games from the NES because those are the first time Snake actually appears canonically and not Metal Gear Solid 1. Its also the first time that Big Boss(aka Naked Snake) is shown long before his appearance in MGS3:Snake Eater.

  • @BFKAnthony817
    @BFKAnthony817 3 года назад +1

    At least one good thing to come out of MG Survive and Ground Zeroes were the maps, which by the way can be modded into MGS V on PC to seriously expand the game and give you all new mission areas. Just a little food for though. I just got the game on sale for literally $5 and it has a lot of great modding potential on PC for sure. FPS mode, reusing areas from other games in same engine, making all new areas ect.

  • @hazzar7784
    @hazzar7784 3 года назад +3

    Happy this video came out.
    Personally I really like MGSurvive. Theres a lot wrong with it, and the drama behind it was tragic but. It's quite fun, and for me felt just at MG as PP was (which as a life long fan was a baffling self aware disappointment) also, nano machine zombies are in PP, also Vamp. Kojima shit on it, and Konama is a brutal company, and a lot of hard working people probably lost there lively-hoods for reasons beyond them.

  • @jmullner76
    @jmullner76 3 года назад +5

    Need to mention the micro transactions, like how they charge you to open up more save places.

    • @shooter5769
      @shooter5769 3 года назад

      Actaully they were paid character slots, not save slots.

    • @jmullner76
      @jmullner76 3 года назад

      @@shooter5769 Stand corrected, and Konami still sucks.

    • @shooter5769
      @shooter5769 3 года назад

      @@jmullner76 yes

  • @gelozyg1732
    @gelozyg1732 3 года назад

    My pitch would have been a story as one of the soldiers of Mother base
    Called Metal Gear Soldiers (MGS) a co op game with 4 players and optional AI companion
    It would take place during events of The Phantom pain and as one of the soldiers you get commands from one of the big three: Ocelot, Venom and Miller
    You are tasked to get through international missions within the MGS universe and sometimes come in to assist big boss in times of need and would be a great way to emulate the episodic stories of MGSV
    Imagine those times you deploy your soldiers to missions in your Idroid during MGSV and those missions are actually you being deployed.
    You get to also join in a fray against tougher enemies such as the nanomachine monsters you see in MGSV and with the added mechanic of being not being built like Big Boss you will have to think on how to counter such enemies.
    As a soldier you are much weaker than Venom and Big Boss and you move heavy, methodical and on purpose heavy combat to make you feel like a person rather than Venom snake which would make it the perfect departure but stays true to the original spirit of metal gear
    Story wise the sky is the limit, you get to fight different enemies never seen in metal gear and can be the perfect platform to introduce those enemies again in a future title.
    You will also get missions from Huey to gather parts for the metal gear tank by using stealth and espionage to steal technology from different parts of the world which can be used against the Sahelanthropus Metal Gear if ever that mission can be made a reality. A mission that would include a cinematic fight as you join AI Mother base soldiers and venom snake trying to take it down.
    This story can be expanded further by introducing the REAL big boss in a dlc to help him build outer heaven
    The sky is the limit with Kojima’s MGS Universe
    IF ONLY KONAMI PAYED ATTENTION

  • @darknessviking
    @darknessviking 3 года назад

    the end fight is the hardest game fight ive ever done
    like literally you against a whole army

  • @trevanminnig3499
    @trevanminnig3499 3 года назад +5

    As someone who only played this and MGS:V, it wasn’t terrible... and it made as much sense as MSGV to me, as well...
    Otherwise, sorry you all had to suffer through it lol

    • @Kye_2020
      @Kye_2020 3 года назад

      Thought it was fun tbh

  • @ARIXANDRE
    @ARIXANDRE 3 года назад +5

    It's amazing how , even unfinished, MGS V is one of the best games of all time.

  • @illusion9289
    @illusion9289 2 года назад +1

    Konami: (Releases Metal Gear Survive)
    Literally Everyone: "All you had to do CJ, was make the damn MGRising2!"

  • @frozenfar7231
    @frozenfar7231 3 года назад

    great video thanks, on the sidenote guys, what is the name of this game at 2:38 ?

  • @greenhowie
    @greenhowie 3 года назад +4

    Correct use of the word "myriad" - I am happy.

  • @greenhowie
    @greenhowie 3 года назад +4

    The concept could have been pulled off. It really could. But Konami.

  • @Xaynier
    @Xaynier 3 года назад

    My favorite channel. Cheers.

  • @gblenemy
    @gblenemy 3 года назад +1

    Metal Gear was killed with the Phantom Pain and burried with Survive.. May it rest in peace.
    Sad that the fans will never see the true end of this saga.

  • @GrippeeTV
    @GrippeeTV 3 года назад +2

    Bro I totally forgot this was ever released lol

  • @aadipie
    @aadipie 3 года назад +3

    Ok I guess I'll watch another piece of metal gear content on RUclips

  • @skmed83
    @skmed83 3 года назад +1

    I mean, MGS is my all time favorite video game franchise...that said, I would hardly say (even excluding Survive) that it's immaculate.

  • @jrow3101
    @jrow3101 2 года назад +2

    Mgs 5 was a masterpiece and still playable today.

  • @godwings101
    @godwings101 3 года назад +6

    As a longtime MGS fan and a zombie game fan I think atleast half the hate around MG: Survive is more about the hate towards Konami than hate towards the game. Things they'd be more forgivable about for other games they attack MG:S for.

    • @citypopFM
      @citypopFM 3 года назад +4

      I know what you're saying but it still isn't a good game. I legitimately don't know a single person who played and liked it.

  • @invisuu6280
    @invisuu6280 3 года назад +8

    "It may revive this franchise" - please no, let it die. MGS4 was already a hate letter to the fans who kept wanting more and more and more. The story is complete, it came full circle, albeit with a lot of retconning, but still.

    • @Skubbes
      @Skubbes 2 года назад

      mgs4 was my favourite. what was the problem with that one?

    • @invisuu6280
      @invisuu6280 2 года назад +1

      @@Skubbes The old tired solid snake, the gruff voice, the literal killing off of characters. Kojima used many symbols letting you know he's tired of this franchise and that he wants this to be the end. He wanted to hand off MGS 2 to a team already, but was brought back because it was initially a catastrophe of a project (hence the story in MGS1 of passing things down to other generations, as he wanted to do with MGS2).

  • @Laimy88
    @Laimy88 2 года назад +2

    Even the iconic artist distance himself from the franchise. Man..

  • @DezuKiwami
    @DezuKiwami 3 года назад +2

    Oh boy, as a Metal Gear fan who VERY much enjoyed this game I just wanna share my (balanced) feelings towards this game, since I have found it nearly impossible to find a more 'objective' review of this game.
    First of all, if you liked MGSV's gameplay, controls, and the glorious look and feel of the FOX Engine you will feel right at home here. Yes, it's not a Kojima game, but people tend to forget that he does not make these game on his own and he has always had an amazingly talented team working for him (and Konami) that pushed the technical aspects of videogames each console generation and defined what 'stealth action' gameplay is. These developers probably never wanted the next Metal Gear game to be a 'zombie survival' game either but they did what they could. And to be fair, this title has almost nothing to do with the Metal Gear title aside from the visual design. It's certainly not an amazing game but I really enjoyed the progression in the single player and the co-op was decent as well, and at higher difficulties it actually required map knowledge and teamwork. I'd personally rate it a very enjoyable 7.5/10.
    Now here's the (understandable) issue; the game was absolutely destroyed in reviews when it launched. Of the many reviews I watched it was very obvious from the gameplay I saw that not a single reviewer played past the first 3 to 5 hours based on their character progression and loadout. I can imagine not wanting to give 'Metal Gear but with zombies by evil Pachinkonami' a chance, and let's say they DID enjoy the game, they would not dare revealing even the slightest affection for this title.
    I'd say if you enjoyed MGS5 and like survival games with an enticing gameplay loop and a decent challenge, give it a shot since it's quite cheap nowadays. Try finding some reviews of people who actually played it as well.