Being an Interceptor 650 & then ADV390 owner always hated the 411 because of its issues The new 450 Himalayan has given me a different experience The best suspension setup period in a ADV of its class and segment Power is there when you need it and all the way Only gripe is will RE ensure service levels as good as #Bigwing or #KTM does
I’m just waiting for new 390 adv. No matter how good RE is but I prefer the sharp and sporty look and performance and honestly I have some trust issues with RE.
I have adv 390-2021 model had minor issues like oil leaking, rattling, service issues etc. which gave me little bit of trouble...nothing serious. Also have bullet 500std. 2017 model...rock solid, never gave any issue. my experience is bit different.
Tras 45 años de motos de todo tipo y algunas enduro y maxitrail, soy feliz propietario de una KTM 390 Adventure 2020 con 20.000 kms. Cuando la compré estaba sola en el mercado, ya que ninguna moto con 400 cc ofrecía velocidad y potencia suficiente en rutas y diversión y versatilidad como utilitario diario en una ciudad. Ahora, ciertamente la Triumph y la Himalayan 2 están ahí y pronto llegará la CFMoto MT 450 que también será muy interesante. Sin duda mi moto favorita sigue siendo la 390 a pesar de que mi 1.70 cm de altura me hacen sufrir en parado por su excesiva altura de asiento. La llevo en ciudad con un baúl GIVI Trekker Outback de 58 litros y dos alforjas GIVI que llevaba en mi ex BMW GS 800. La ligereza y relación peso-potencia, es lo más importante para que con mis 61 años disfrute la moto sin sufrir los excesos de volumen o masa. Un saludo desde España.
Me alegra saber de ti y me alegra saber que sigues disfrutando de las motos a tus 61 años. La KTM es realmente muy atractiva y habrá una nueva en camino a finales de este año. Esté atento a eso.
I owned a Duke 390 for the past 9 years now.. there have been minor niggles yes, but nothing that was easily solved.. the performance has been heart racing and experience euphoric.. I'm sure nothing can match this as I look for a replacement.. I only hope there is a faster Duke or Adv that can race my heart faster! ;)
Adv 390 is jack of all trades for sure.. 🔥.. In terms of power to wait ratio, engine refinmnt, its too light and nimble with more power.. It can be use as commuter also.. N on other side, i have used himalayan 450,.. And yea its soo heavy wen compared to adv 390. And plus its sounds little wierd also.. But yea himmy myt be great in other terms..
@@powerdriftofficial sold 390 duke Gen 2 & bought Adv 390. Could not stand the looks of gen 3 duke 390. Rode to Ooty and back - 370 kms - for my level - i am happy with cornering and performance - Run in period. feel happy and content. But any way to increase front brake bite? replace break pads? what type?
I am leaning towards the 390x, would it be the right time to buy as the newer 390adv comes this might lead to spares issues as i tend to keep my bikes for atleast a decade.
KTM 390 Adv is my choice. I own a Classic 350 and the service experience and parts cost for its quality is way too much. Still don't have the first hand experience with KTMs, but would love to have one as I like a more sportier ride and the preference of on-road tourer goes with my choice selection.
The recent Honda NX500 is creating a sense of interest recently.. Although it's double the price of competition... But it is surprising how Honda which is know high price, made it well even though being CBU/CKD made it at this price for NX500
It's commendable that Himalayan has come such a long way but man, i am impressed with the fact that KTM is so hard to beat even after its release years ago. I did a solo ride to Goa on my adventure and the bike rocked non stop for 13 hours without any complain. It was my first ride outside Mumbai. I wont pass KTM for anything new unless they score 5 points above KTM in an overall comparison. Waiting for the new KTM Adventure with its taller suspension.
@@powerdriftofficial i did encounter engine knocking and bike stalling a few times and its scary on highways and ghats. but the service center tells me its about my riding and using the shifts properly. so maybe thats the issue.
I own a Duke 390 which has been a daily commuter of about 50kms for me from past 5yrs and man that’s a pocket rocket. I’m thinking to buy Himalayan 450 for its comfort in city and also on highways. Should I stick with Duke390 or go for Himalayan.?
Both are very good motorcycles, I like the old-fashioned design of the RE but I think it's a shame that the motorcycle comes with the really bad CEAT tires.
390 ADV suspension is nowhere close to OG and the New Himalayan....But I love the power of 390ADV 🔥 My choice anyday Himlayan 452.. Booking already done 😍
Nothing beats the KTM. While ppl go gaga about the the bike, it is top heavy, vibrations creep in unpredictably. Also it isn't sharp. And where's the Cruise Control? KTM atleast has an aftermarket option to port the 790 cruise control to the 390. Overall it's too less too late. Himi was supposed to be launched in 2020. Himi might be value for money proposition but beats the KTM? Maybe fir the RE fanboys.
At a touring speed of 100-110, where vibrations are a big problem on Himalayan as per most reviewer's observations, how is it compared to the 390 ADV? I know neither is great, but which one is better? Also, can we install the adjustable suspension on 390X, officially? If yes, how close does it get to the himalayan's?
I m confused what to buy from himalyan to ktm from aprillia to ninja I ll definitely pick himalyan the sooner it shows up in CSD or anything else if I make a impulsive buy anytime earlier
Am I the only one, who thinks they both share similiarities in how they emphasize words or the way they speak (in general). Its just a change in the treble of the voices of both these hosts, which counts as a differentiating factor. If they both do voiceovers, it would be hard to distinguish who is who?
Jab tak rahe ga Painter Tabtak nahi chale ga aapka center! I will always mention that ""PowerDrift lost it's charm because of Varun Painter not Corporate Mergers!"
Scrambler 400 coming in and saying well let me see I am fun, I am practical, I can ride in city, highway and trails & little more than trails. So I win for most of the people, for those richies with two or three bike budgets i'd say take the Himalayan. KTM engine is built for Duke and rc
Good decision bro at that price those are featureless junk. 450, SM 650 and SG 650 are only valuables of RE all others to me are nonsense or overpriced products
@@derkonig2292 no bro I am talking about fun to ride and bikes which are worth the value. Those 3 are only bikes of RE which have features and also have USDs. And the 80s cluster sucks bro. + I have a personal issue with the REs for their shitty pricing. I don't hate the bikes but the Shitty company only. Any sane person would agree on that.
got my Himalayan 450 10 days back. Been riding it on highway, its just feels different and comfy. Awesome balance and easy handling. It doesnt feel like you need to get used to it. Even though its new, I feel like its just easy
I am confused between both the bikes, Should i go-for the himalayan 450 convert it to tubeless and enjoy or wait for thenew 390 adv till next year? I liked the refinement of the new 399cc engine of duke as well though…
Seriously??? Nobody's gonna talk about how amazingly the videos have shot and edited? This definitely deserves some great appreciation!! 🫰🏻❤️✨ Kudos to the team of shooting, executing and editing! Love it ❤️
Got my HimmY 450 Hanle Black last week & you won’t believe I have driven 500 kms so far & that’s all in the City. & it has the capability to tear out the road 😂 I mean I fell in love with the power it delivers & to be very honest, My Himmy 450 gets more attention & Love in the roads as compared to 390 Adv.❤
@@fahadcool13 well there will be pros & some cons in every bike …but I must confess that I am really enjoying my ride with Himalayan 452 & you will as well.
@@powerdriftofficialyou could have asked us, i would have given my windblade happily for this comparo, btw ADV still holds the crown of best VFM adventure motorcycle in India.
@@riderhunt dont think its actually about KTM not offering the bikes... Might be about the SW media bikes just not being available, every media influencer wants the bike right right to compare it to something or the other. I own a 2022 390 Adventure (the same colour thats used on the video) and even I had to wait quite a while to get my hands on the SW version to test ride.
As a 390 owner for the past two years, I need to say that the bike came with its share of minor niggles (Plastic part rattles and bashplate nuts coming loose) which I had rectified with some DIY bushings and locktite. The headlight was spread out too much with not much focus so added aux lights. I tested the Himalayan out of curiosity for a friend. The bike looked promising but we were met with a slew of disappointments starting with the coneset out of spec, laggy throttle response, the funny angle of the kick stand and a rear seat that was tilted rearwards which made the pillion sit tucked. The one we test rode had a very rattly engine with what seemed like a bad tappet noise. The main redeeming feature what we all loved was the suspension tuning which like Varun said was "world class". For a bike under development since 2016 ( what I heard and read), many things feel like an afterthought or incomplete. For the KTM, the stock front suspension is nicely tuned but the rear is stiff compared to its competitors. On TeamBHP there was a thread regarding rebound adjustable rear suspension with a "soft to hard" setting which seemed to work really well in adressing the stiffness issue so maybe I'll try that. But as of now it is not a deal breaker for me. The quick shifter takes some getting used to for it to work the way you want. The Adv 390 is capable of keeping up with the RCs on twisties if you have the skills and confidence and once the roads get uneven or in bad weather the bike out performs the competition in terms of pace and predictability and the confidence to get out of sticky situations. The inherent balance and communication which the chassis provides is priceless. The Himalayan in all honesty feels like a much more laid back proposal, maybe for the rider who wants to take it easy on long tours. The ADV 390 is more of an upright sports bike with longer suspension travel. If only RE got the fundamentals dialed in and the mechanical issues resolved from the get go. I feel like the bike has potential but it hasn't gotten the complete attention it deserved during development.
Incredible comment. Thanks for writing in. Also sad to read that you got a not-so-good test Himmy. Its much more than that for sure. BTW, are you looking forward to the new ADV? 😄
@@powerdriftofficial Truth be told, I wish for the new engine, switchgear and quickshifter but after seeing the shots of the test mule, I'm not sure I prefer the shift to the all-out adventure geometry and styling. It looks more grown up and adult, something you don't associate with the mad bikes KTMs usually are. I'm sure it'll find the market here but feels like a step away from the brand ethos.
Your review of Himmy is spot on. I was too disappointed after TD. Your observations on Engine are correct. Also I found weight distribution was out of place. After Himmy TD, I was wondering why reviewers are going gaa gaa over this bike which feels WIP.
I am confused about the verdict, as you guys said Himalayan has better bottom-end than the KTM, then how come you'all are saying KTM better for city than the Himalayan. This is coming from KTM390 Adv user, where I find city roads in Pune very limiting for KTM, the moment it comes alive, its time to brake :(. I found KTM better for highways than the city.
Should I get the Himmy 450 in the 3rd quarter this year or I should be waiting for the new ADV 390 to come and then decide ? ( Was determined to buy the Adv 390 for a long time but the new Himmy somehow is very appealing )
I've ordered a Hanle Black Tubeless but uk deliveries are not here until april/may so that is my choice. I worked in Infosys Pune, building near Whipro site. Shopping in the centre and MG road for souvenirs, great memories and being there Aug 15th was the highlight for me with so many people at work in 'sunday best' clothes. (there's a reason more miss world/miss universe are from India than uk I think?) Many different makes of motorcycles we never see here.
I own the 390 Adventure, so I will say this. I would choose my bike everytime at the start of any tour, but like the Versus 650, 400 km into a trip or when you're returning home from your adventure, you'll wish you had the Himalyan. Enthusiasm will easily ignore all the problems with the KTM, which is more exciting as a bike, but you will envy the Himalyan when you're tired. In my opinion, it is worth making a video on how much it takes to deal with the issues of the KTM, since rear adjustable suspension is an accessory, and you can get foam grips which really take care of vibrations
I own the 2022 390 Adv and recently upgraded both front and rear suspension with Fully Adjustable suspension from SW variant and did couple of on road , off road ride, the experience and comfort level has been up by 100% comparing with the stock one and with the right settings. A must have upgrade to make your existing bike a comfortable long touring bike and even a better off roader.
Was waiting for this comparison for Long... Thankyou Guys... Him 450 is the choice but heart goes for ADV since I own a Duke390 I know all about the fun part and how it dominates...
Let new 390 come will decide by that time Himalayan will be more refined with engine and features already the tubeless have came into effect from today lets see
I did a test ride on himalayan in december, what a freaking machine! I didn’t think much of it and closed my eyes immediately booked it. Getting my delivery in this week
God bless brother.......only thing I would say...... Be prepared to fall in love..... And believe me it's all a bubble online it seems...... Its just simply amazing... ❤️
U don't ride spec sheet 🤦🏻♂️. . . Yes it's down 3 nm, but it's also down a whopping 19kgs less than Himalayan, which those extra 3NM can't compromise 🙃. . .
Dear Power Drift , got recommended your power news show featuring Shumi , Varun and Gantantra ji. Would request you to bring back that series on bike comparison. I understand Shumi is not with you anymore but you have Varun and Karan. Would love if more such comparisons can be restarted . Make a gantantra ji as mediator and a debate of neta type with Varun and Karan. For me 390 ADV next gen will make more sense. As new engine has better low end power , quick shifter is better and better switch quality. And hope both get option for tubeless spokes.
I have recently sold my Himalayan 411 and now looking for a change? Which one should I go for? (I also own HONDA CBR650, so need one lighter touring motorcycle)
Planning to get KTM 390 ADV standard version however i bit confused in BMW 310 GS and Triumph 400 Scrambler can you please help me to which one to chose
Since both the bikes main motto is adventure ..We need to compare both ktm and RE's company guided tours ..I have seen ktm pro xp a program offered by ktm for its customers to learn and be part of guided Tours ..Last yr they had leh ,northeast, spiti and nepal .also ktm has off roading workshops in major cities . I have no idea about Royal Enfield ..would be a point of comparison ...
RE has been organising guided tours since before KTM launched their first bike in India. The Himalayan Odyssey has been conducted by RE for 18 years now. KTM is new to this game and likely learned from RE's example. Not sure about off-road camps, though. I agree that it's a good idea for a comparison video.
The only thing i dont like about the himalayan is the tail section or the rear look, they should have worked on it or the rear seat should be a little raised so as to look decent from the back too🤔
There are some vibration issues pointed out by reviewers of himalayan which is varying from model to model so just wait for some long term reviews before purchasing one. Some are suggesting that nvh are bothersome above 100kmph which is really disappointing, but we have to give benefit of doubt to re as this there first liquid cooled engine. Hope so it will improve with batch to batch.
You both have given great insights into the video Thank you Amazing video presentation Cheers to the team POWERDRIFT for such a phenomenal comparison of the bikes❤ My choice RE Of course ADV390 has its perks No doubt the guy riding the RE adds to the charm of the bike❤
Got my KTM Adventure 390 SW for 2 weeks now, and its by far the most fun Motorbike I EVER drove! It´s superlight, extremely agile, consumes not much gas, can be driven like an Enduro in the City and Off Road, its not expensive etc etc... - its the ultimate Motorbike!!!
Royal Enfield is nations pride and heritage but personally they are not that reliable , engine life is short, maintenance is expensive. KTM is a classic engineered bike please don't compare it with himalayan.
Both KTM and RE run out of the room with tail between their legs.. as Honda NX500 enters the room.. 😂 Dono ke fans jalna mat.. but this is undeniably true.
Being an Interceptor 650 & then ADV390 owner always hated the 411 because of its issues
The new 450 Himalayan has given me a different experience
The best suspension setup period in a ADV of its class and segment
Power is there when you need it and all the way
Only gripe is will RE ensure service levels as good as #Bigwing or #KTM does
Yeah, the suspension is too too good! KTM will also be relatively cheaper to maintain.
Chassis are still breaking on the new Himmi
I’m just waiting for new 390 adv. No matter how good RE is but I prefer the sharp and sporty look and performance and honestly I have some trust issues with RE.
The new 390 will take a while to happen.
@@powerdriftofficialOne year
I have adv 390-2021 model had minor issues like oil leaking, rattling, service issues etc. which gave me little bit of trouble...nothing serious.
Also have bullet 500std. 2017 model...rock solid, never gave any issue. my experience is bit different.
The new 390 engine is a Noisy
It's ok , go for the looks
Tras 45 años de motos de todo tipo y algunas enduro y maxitrail, soy feliz propietario de una KTM 390 Adventure 2020 con 20.000 kms. Cuando la compré estaba sola en el mercado, ya que ninguna moto con 400 cc ofrecía velocidad y potencia suficiente en rutas y diversión y versatilidad como utilitario diario en una ciudad. Ahora, ciertamente la Triumph y la Himalayan 2 están ahí y pronto llegará la CFMoto MT 450 que también será muy interesante.
Sin duda mi moto favorita sigue siendo la 390 a pesar de que mi 1.70 cm de altura me hacen sufrir en parado por su excesiva altura de asiento. La llevo en ciudad con un baúl GIVI Trekker Outback de 58 litros y dos alforjas GIVI que llevaba en mi ex BMW GS 800. La ligereza y relación peso-potencia, es lo más importante para que con mis 61 años disfrute la moto sin sufrir los excesos de volumen o masa.
Un saludo desde España.
Me alegra saber de ti y me alegra saber que sigues disfrutando de las motos a tus 61 años. La KTM es realmente muy atractiva y habrá una nueva en camino a finales de este año. Esté atento a eso.
I owned a Duke 390 for the past 9 years now.. there have been minor niggles yes, but nothing that was easily solved.. the performance has been heart racing and experience euphoric.. I'm sure nothing can match this as I look for a replacement.. I only hope there is a faster Duke or Adv that can race my heart faster! ;)
Wait for the new 390 Adventure
Adv 390 is jack of all trades for sure.. 🔥.. In terms of power to wait ratio, engine refinmnt, its too light and nimble with more power.. It can be use as commuter also.. N on other side, i have used himalayan 450,.. And yea its soo heavy wen compared to adv 390. And plus its sounds little wierd also.. But yea himmy myt be great in other terms..
Nicely written
I love my Adv 390...pure confidence and all round performance
Oh yeahhh
Bought 390 ADV - Jan 2024 - Highway and tarmac (hills) tourer - zero off roading. Right choice? What say sir?
You already bought it! You tell us 😄
@@powerdriftofficial sold 390 duke Gen 2 & bought Adv 390. Could not stand the looks of gen 3 duke 390.
Rode to Ooty and back - 370 kms - for my level - i am happy with cornering and performance - Run in period. feel happy and content. But any way to increase front brake bite? replace break pads? what type?
I am leaning towards the 390x, would it be the right time to buy as the newer 390adv comes this might lead to spares issues as i tend to keep my bikes for atleast a decade.
The new one is being tested already. If you can make patience your ally, the upcoming motorcycle should be worth it
KTM 390 Adv is my choice. I own a Classic 350 and the service experience and parts cost for its quality is way too much. Still don't have the first hand experience with KTMs, but would love to have one as I like a more sportier ride and the preference of on-road tourer goes with my choice selection.
The KTM service experience will be very affordable.
I drive a BMW and a Merc, so I m super choosey about finish. When the kid said that RE has better paint quality 😂 it’s hilarious
Sold my 2019 interceptor and switching to Himalayan .
I have trust on RE based on their service network and the way they address complaints.
We see a smile there 😊
When are you guys comparing TVS Raider and Hero Xtreme 125R? Waiting for it.
That’s lined up for this month!
Any day Tm adventure 390 Design was future prof , reliability, service, parts cost , Chassis Engine power, electronics, handling , cornaring ❤
Woohooo
i have changed front sprocket to 14 teeth at 2nd service. now i m happy with my ADV 390 (2022) 😊
Whats the difference that you noticed? Or rather what's the problem that you solved?
Any changes in mileage?
Nice. Better bottom end then
The recent Honda NX500 is creating a sense of interest recently.. Although it's double the price of competition... But it is surprising how Honda which is know high price, made it well even though being CBU/CKD made it at this price for NX500
The pricing is what is killing us. A 500cc motorcycle at that price is 😐
Cost is the biggest enemy for nx500!
@@sivateja4942and you cannot justify price difference there is no big difference interms of performance
please add trump adventure bike 400cc it is going to be manufacture in India but it is not came yet.
It's commendable that Himalayan has come such a long way but man, i am impressed with the fact that KTM is so hard to beat even after its release years ago. I did a solo ride to Goa on my adventure and the bike rocked non stop for 13 hours without any complain. It was my first ride outside Mumbai. I wont pass KTM for anything new unless they score 5 points above KTM in an overall comparison. Waiting for the new KTM Adventure with its taller suspension.
Lovely motorcycle, isn’t it?
@@powerdriftofficial hands down. waiting to see what change the new ktm adventure gives in terms of riding experience.
@@powerdriftofficial i did encounter engine knocking and bike stalling a few times and its scary on highways and ghats. but the service center tells me its about my riding and using the shifts properly. so maybe thats the issue.
I’m getting this lovely beast 450 ❤ delivered today 😍
Congratulations mate
I own a Duke 390 which has been a daily commuter of about 50kms for me from past 5yrs and man that’s a pocket rocket. I’m thinking to buy Himalayan 450 for its comfort in city and also on highways. Should I stick with Duke390 or go for Himalayan.?
Stick to 390 duke and save yourself
Please take a test spin first. Should answer a lot of your questions
Nothing beats ktm 390 adventure ❤
Ehhh poor suspension?
Both are very good motorcycles, I like the old-fashioned design of the RE but I think it's a shame that the motorcycle comes with the really bad CEAT tires.
Also tube spokes :(
390 ADV suspension is nowhere close to OG and the New Himalayan....But I love the power of 390ADV 🔥
My choice anyday Himlayan 452.. Booking already done 😍
Cheers!
We love Your Videos just need Proper Comparison Videos which have top of the line bikes which respected companies offer.
Thanks bud but we couldn’t source the media unit from KTM on time. This was borrowed from a friend 😊
@@powerdriftofficial Bro Take Mine And Go Have Fun 😅 Just would love to See Head On Head Comparison 🙏
Nothing beats the KTM. While ppl go gaga about the the bike, it is top heavy, vibrations creep in unpredictably. Also it isn't sharp. And where's the Cruise Control? KTM atleast has an aftermarket option to port the 790 cruise control to the 390. Overall it's too less too late. Himi was supposed to be launched in 2020. Himi might be value for money proposition but beats the KTM? Maybe fir the RE fanboys.
Ufff! We know you went which way.
End of video is fun pd army doesn't misses to entertain ❤😂
Hahahaha! Bloopers are fun always
At a touring speed of 100-110, where vibrations are a big problem on Himalayan as per most reviewer's observations, how is it compared to the 390 ADV? I know neither is great, but which one is better?
Also, can we install the adjustable suspension on 390X, officially? If yes, how close does it get to the himalayan's?
It will get close but not to the level of the Himalayan. Both the motorcycles are vibey but the Himmy is better at lower speeds.
I m confused what to buy from himalyan to ktm from aprillia to ninja I ll definitely pick himalyan the sooner it shows up in CSD or anything else if I make a impulsive buy anytime earlier
Please don't make an impulsive buy. Test ride everything before you make a choice.
Nice comparison vdo
I am a RE person so always RE
Thanks Narendra! Glad you liked the video.
With KTMs reputation its definitely the RE for me.
We like the Himmy too. But the spoke tube wheels :(
Am I the only one, who thinks they both share similiarities in how they emphasize words or the way they speak (in general). Its just a change in the treble of the voices of both these hosts, which counts as a differentiating factor. If they both do voiceovers, it would be hard to distinguish who is who?
Ummm. Okay
Jab tak rahe ga Painter
Tabtak nahi chale ga aapka center!
I will always mention that ""PowerDrift lost it's charm because of Varun Painter not Corporate Mergers!"
RE HIMALAYAN 450 is perfect..!
Check the video to know who wins this one
Please, RR310 vs RC390.
Compare them. Please
That is an old comparo
Scrambler 400 coming in and saying well let me see I am fun, I am practical, I can ride in city, highway and trails & little more than trails. So I win for most of the people, for those richies with two or three bike budgets i'd say take the Himalayan. KTM engine is built for Duke and rc
Add triumph scrambler beside these two. Though that's not adventure byk but not less surely capable than these two
We did a separate video on that!
My suggestion himlayan should change spokes to alloy wheels 🛞🛞 the one thing I suggest to royal Enfield
21 inch alloys? Not happening.
I sold my 2020 Interceptor and booked Himalayan 450, getting it delivered on march 😎
Congratulations bud!
Good decision bro at that price those are featureless junk.
450, SM 650 and SG 650 are only valuables of RE all others to me are nonsense or overpriced products
@@being_radical_at_times well, if you feel like performance is the only thing you want then yes.
@@derkonig2292 no bro I am talking about fun to ride and bikes which are worth the value. Those 3 are only bikes of RE which have features and also have USDs. And the 80s cluster sucks bro.
+ I have a personal issue with the REs for their shitty pricing.
I don't hate the bikes but the Shitty company only.
Any sane person would agree on that.
U will never get disappointed, 2 wheel Mercedes... Comfort level 👌👌👌
ADV 390 forever ❤
There’s a new one coming!
Waiting for the monster ❤@@powerdriftofficial
Adv390❤
But then that upcoming KTM ADV will be definitely more expensive that of current 399 Duke....
❤
Royal Enfield Himalayan my dear Yeti came home last week!! looking forward for all the LOOOONGGG riding adventure touring!!!!!
Enjoy!
What about the engine sound
@@praveen.raavanan.8313 bro.... Zeroo... U won't get any better bigger 450 single cylinder in the market...
@@praveen.raavanan.8313 Don't seem to have any issues with it so far, sounds smooth.
got my Himalayan 450 10 days back. Been riding it on highway, its just feels different and comfy. Awesome balance and easy handling. It doesnt feel like you need to get used to it. Even though its new, I feel like its just easy
Thanks for sharing
Bro hows the comfort in bumpy roads??
@@jishnushaji3314 good suspension
Reliable?any issues?
@@angelnokare6906 it's reliable. I have been to utaarkashi with it. Had no problems. It can run a lil hot tho, but it's a 450 cc so kind of expected.
I am confused between both the bikes, Should i go-for the himalayan 450 convert it to tubeless and enjoy or wait for thenew 390 adv till next year? I liked the refinement of the new 399cc engine of duke as well though…
ADV 390 forever 😅
👍👍👍
Seriously??? Nobody's gonna talk about how amazingly the videos have shot and edited? This definitely deserves some great appreciation!! 🫰🏻❤️✨ Kudos to the team of shooting, executing and editing! Love it ❤️
Thanks a bunch WanderVroom! Hope you have subscribed to our channel
It's powerlift every video is amazingly shot and edited, that's the reason no one needs to talk about it
At 3:00 i thought you were going to quote ken miles “where everything starts to fade the machine becomes weightless”.😅
Could have, should have 😂
t thought so too
Got my HimmY 450 Hanle Black last week
& you won’t believe
I have driven 500 kms so far & that’s all in the City.
& it has the capability to tear out the road 😂
I mean I fell in love with the power it delivers & to be very honest,
My Himmy 450 gets more attention & Love in the roads as compared to 390 Adv.❤
Brother I have already booked Himmy, I am worried after people posting so many issues, please help me to go for it or no?
@@fahadcool13 well there will be pros & some cons in every bike …but I must confess that I am really enjoying my ride with Himalayan 452 & you will as well.
Good to hear this!
Why wouldnt you use the SW version of the 390 Adv... Suspension are a lot better in that
Couldn’t get our hands on the media unit. A friend was kind enough to lend his motorcycle.
@@powerdriftofficial KTM doesn't offer bikes even for test rides
@@powerdriftofficialyou could have asked us, i would have given my windblade happily for this comparo, btw ADV still holds the crown of best VFM adventure motorcycle in India.
@@riderhunt dont think its actually about KTM not offering the bikes... Might be about the SW media bikes just not being available, every media influencer wants the bike right right to compare it to something or the other. I own a 2022 390 Adventure (the same colour thats used on the video) and even I had to wait quite a while to get my hands on the SW version to test ride.
As a 390 owner for the past two years, I need to say that the bike came with its share of minor niggles (Plastic part rattles and bashplate nuts coming loose) which I had rectified with some DIY bushings and locktite. The headlight was spread out too much with not much focus so added aux lights.
I tested the Himalayan out of curiosity for a friend. The bike looked promising but we were met with a slew of disappointments starting with the coneset out of spec, laggy throttle response, the funny angle of the kick stand and a rear seat that was tilted rearwards which made the pillion sit tucked. The one we test rode had a very rattly engine with what seemed like a bad tappet noise. The main redeeming feature what we all loved was the suspension tuning which like Varun said was "world class". For a bike under development since 2016 ( what I heard and read), many things feel like an afterthought or incomplete.
For the KTM, the stock front suspension is nicely tuned but the rear is stiff compared to its competitors. On TeamBHP there was a thread regarding rebound adjustable rear suspension with a "soft to hard" setting which seemed to work really well in adressing the stiffness issue so maybe I'll try that. But as of now it is not a deal breaker for me. The quick shifter takes some getting used to for it to work the way you want. The Adv 390 is capable of keeping up with the RCs on twisties if you have the skills and confidence and once the roads get uneven or in bad weather the bike out performs the competition in terms of pace and predictability and the confidence to get out of sticky situations. The inherent balance and communication which the chassis provides is priceless.
The Himalayan in all honesty feels like a much more laid back proposal, maybe for the rider who wants to take it easy on long tours. The ADV 390 is more of an upright sports bike with longer suspension travel.
If only RE got the fundamentals dialed in and the mechanical issues resolved from the get go. I feel like the bike has potential but it hasn't gotten the complete attention it deserved during development.
Incredible comment. Thanks for writing in. Also sad to read that you got a not-so-good test Himmy. Its much more than that for sure. BTW, are you looking forward to the new ADV? 😄
@@powerdriftofficial Truth be told, I wish for the new engine, switchgear and quickshifter but after seeing the shots of the test mule, I'm not sure I prefer the shift to the all-out adventure geometry and styling. It looks more grown up and adult, something you don't associate with the mad bikes KTMs usually are. I'm sure it'll find the market here but feels like a step away from the brand ethos.
you probably were sold a duplicate bike, ha ha ha ha, 390 has no such issues
Your review of Himmy is spot on. I was too disappointed after TD. Your observations on Engine are correct. Also I found weight distribution was out of place. After Himmy TD, I was wondering why reviewers are going gaa gaa over this bike which feels WIP.
@@yudhistirs ha ha ha ha I can only comment based on my experience. Also "duplicate bike"? Care to explain?
Simple reminder don't pick Indian 🙂 brands if you know you know.
I need crf 450 l 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Who else got irritated by the Non Stop MG Astor Ads 😤
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Adv 390❤,, himlayan is jus a joker from re 450 cc engine 20 kmpl milage my bmw 850gsa give me 18 kmpl ,,re what a 🤣
I am confused about the verdict, as you guys said Himalayan has better bottom-end than the KTM, then how come you'all are saying KTM better for city than the Himalayan. This is coming from KTM390 Adv user, where I find city roads in Pune very limiting for KTM, the moment it comes alive, its time to brake :(. I found KTM better for highways than the city.
Its lighter, manageable and easier to ride overall. Plus, in the city one cannot go full ham on the throttle anyway
The Himalayan are the better bike .. 🎉
Should I get the Himmy 450 in the 3rd quarter this year or I should be waiting for the new ADV 390 to come and then decide ? ( Was determined to buy the Adv 390 for a long time but the new Himmy somehow is very appealing )
If you are waiting, might as well wait for the new Katoom
Do check the waiting period for the Himalayan. It might get pushed to the fourth quarter.
I've ordered a Hanle Black Tubeless but uk deliveries are not here until april/may so that is my choice.
I worked in Infosys Pune, building near Whipro site. Shopping in the centre and MG road for souvenirs, great memories and being there Aug 15th was the highlight for me with so many people at work in 'sunday best' clothes. (there's a reason more miss world/miss universe are from India than uk I think?) Many different makes of motorcycles we never see here.
Hahahha! We don’t know what to make of it
Buddy u high or what😅
I own the 390 Adventure, so I will say this. I would choose my bike everytime at the start of any tour, but like the Versus 650, 400 km into a trip or when you're returning home from your adventure, you'll wish you had the Himalyan.
Enthusiasm will easily ignore all the problems with the KTM, which is more exciting as a bike, but you will envy the Himalyan when you're tired.
In my opinion, it is worth making a video on how much it takes to deal with the issues of the KTM, since rear adjustable suspension is an accessory, and you can get foam grips which really take care of vibrations
Ah haa. You still haven’t mentioned what makes the ride miserable. Suspension, comfort?
I own the 2022 390 Adv and recently upgraded both front and rear suspension with Fully Adjustable suspension from SW variant and did couple of on road , off road ride, the experience and comfort level has been up by 100% comparing with the stock one and with the right settings. A must have upgrade to make your existing bike a comfortable long touring bike and even a better off roader.
@@anuragsaha9994how much did it come for and does it void warranty? Also is it only possible to change the rear one?
So you are in terms of sitting and comfort Himalayan is good
@@anuragsaha9994 How much is the front and rear suspension for, individually? Can we install it officially, i.e. without breaking the warranty?
Himalayan no confidence chassis break issue and engine tapping issue 😞
Was waiting for this comparison for Long... Thankyou Guys...
Him 450 is the choice but heart goes for ADV since I own a Duke390 I know all about the fun part and how it dominates...
There we go!
Himalayan engine not reliable tappet noise after 1000 km
Tell us more about the issue.
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Himalayan problems - coneset issue
Clutch burnt at 1000km
Side stand issue
Instrument cluster issue
Engine shim noise issue
Waiting for hero xpluse 400 adv
If you want to go on an adventure, get a KTM.
If you want to come home again, get a Himalayan (or a Japanese bike).
can you also emphasise on the after sales for both as new riders it will reaally help us
Let new 390 come will decide by that time Himalayan will be more refined with engine and features already the tubeless have came into effect from today lets see
It's been a fantastic week with the new Himalayan. Completely enjoying the journey.
Glad you enjoy it!
Will always go for adv390 anyday...... might think about Himalayan only if it gets tubeless tyres.
And there’s no clarity on that
@@powerdriftofficial yes why RE like that?
Its not in their hands honestly. The certification has to come in through as well
TBH i love KTM but the tagline "Chapri" is associated n m afraid of tht
Disliking because there is no colour grading.. Or even if it's there.. Its not enough
Adv 390 Any Day ! Cant Wait For The Updated Version To Launch ! 🔥🔥
We cannot either! Should be a good one
As far royal enfield is concerned reliability is a big big issues had a inty 650 and it has really annoyed me several times during my long rides
I choose the 390 cause the power and ride balance is just prefect and braking performance is just wow
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The reliability factor can never be associated with RE...
We keep hearing about these issues yes
I did a test ride on himalayan in december, what a freaking machine! I didn’t think much of it and closed my eyes immediately booked it. Getting my delivery in this week
Great to hear!
God bless brother.......only thing I would say...... Be prepared to fall in love..... And believe me it's all a bubble online it seems...... Its just simply amazing... ❤️
Bro when did you book ? How long it takes to deliver?, tmrw im booking i cant sleep 😂❤
It completely depends on the dealership
In Bengaluru they're saying 3months 😭
40 Nm @5500 rpm vs 37Nm@7000 rpm.....
RE 🔥
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U don't ride spec sheet 🤦🏻♂️. . . Yes it's down 3 nm, but it's also down a whopping 19kgs less than Himalayan, which those extra 3NM can't compromise 🙃. . .
@@radarroi27 exactly you don't ride spec sheet...!
Di take long test ride, then you will surely choose 390 over him450
Dear Power Drift , got recommended your power news show featuring Shumi , Varun and Gantantra ji. Would request you to bring back that series on bike comparison. I understand Shumi is not with you anymore but you have Varun and Karan. Would love if more such comparisons can be restarted . Make a gantantra ji as mediator and a debate of neta type with Varun and Karan.
For me 390 ADV next gen will make more sense. As new engine has better low end power , quick shifter is better and better switch quality. And hope both get option for tubeless spokes.
We hear you. Some things are possible, some just aren’t
@@powerdriftofficial please make with Varun and Karan along with a host . Would love that. Waiting for 390 ADV new version
Re needs to test..test.. n test before launch. No match with KTM Adv
We heard allowys cracking less then the chassis though 😂😂
I'm going with 390
Woohooo
I have recently sold my Himalayan 411 and now looking for a change? Which one should I go for? (I also own HONDA CBR650, so need one lighter touring motorcycle)
390 anytime.
Lets go!
KTM 390 Adv Anyday !🔥
One more vote!
Adv 390 all day
Enfield has come a looong way but no not impressed
Waiting eagerly for the next gen adv 390
Later this year
Me who is using bike reviews and comparisons as ASMR
It would have been even better if you compared it with 2024 390 adventure
There’s still some time for that
Himalayan 452 looks good ktm 390 looks tall and ugly
The 390 is irrelevant - you want a lightweight KTM? Buy a 690 - craps on the 390 in every respect.
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Planning to get KTM 390 ADV standard version however i bit confused in BMW 310 GS and Triumph 400 Scrambler can you please help me to which one to chose
What is it that you want from your motorcycle?
@@powerdriftofficial i am actually using it for office commute and weekly rides 🙂🙂
Since both the bikes main motto is adventure ..We need to compare both ktm and RE's company guided tours ..I have seen ktm pro xp a program offered by ktm for its customers to learn and be part of guided Tours ..Last yr they had leh ,northeast, spiti and nepal .also ktm has off roading workshops in major cities . I have no idea about Royal Enfield ..would be a point of comparison ...
They do it quite well too. Brilliant idea for a comparo though
RE has been organising guided tours since before KTM launched their first bike in India. The Himalayan Odyssey has been conducted by RE for 18 years now. KTM is new to this game and likely learned from RE's example. Not sure about off-road camps, though. I agree that it's a good idea for a comparison video.
Yeahh for sure
The only thing i dont like about the himalayan is the tail section or the rear look, they should have worked on it or the rear seat should be a little raised so as to look decent from the back too🤔
Pillion accessibility gone out of the window
I feel like Adv 250 is better than Adv 390 ...i guess because of power to weight ratio
But the 390 is awesome.
There are some vibration issues pointed out by reviewers of himalayan which is varying from model to model so just wait for some long term reviews before purchasing one. Some are suggesting that nvh are bothersome above 100kmph which is really disappointing, but we have to give benefit of doubt to re as this there first liquid cooled engine. Hope so it will improve with batch to batch.
Yeah. Slightly different experience from different motorcyclists
Everyone maverick 440 look sick, me back in the mind expulse with 440 engine about to come
We don’t think it will come with the same engine.
You both have given great insights into the video
Thank you
Amazing video presentation
Cheers to the team POWERDRIFT for such a phenomenal comparison of the bikes❤
My choice RE
Of course ADV390 has its perks
No doubt the guy riding the RE adds to the charm of the bike❤
Got my KTM Adventure 390 SW for 2 weeks now, and its by far the most fun Motorbike I EVER drove! It´s superlight, extremely agile, consumes not much gas, can be driven like an Enduro in the City and Off Road, its not expensive etc etc... - its the ultimate Motorbike!!!
Honda NX500 is the Real 500 cc adv bike 💯change the title to low end adv bikes ....
Willing to pay that price?
Lol going over anything and everything with 196 kgs.. Let's see how the chassis on this one holds😅😂
We highly recommend a test spin. Its fantastic!
Booked adv 390x
Lets goooooo
Royal Enfield is nations pride and heritage but personally they are not that reliable , engine life is short, maintenance is expensive. KTM is a classic engineered bike please don't compare it with himalayan.
Both KTM and RE run out of the room with tail between their legs.. as Honda NX500 enters the room.. 😂
Dono ke fans jalna mat.. but this is undeniably true.
It will also come a hefty price tag. Something that will take it out of the room.
@@powerdriftofficial that is also undeniably true. 🙏
BTW 500rx says it is willing to fight any 5-6 lakh RE or KTM with a smile.. 🤣
KTM is also cooking up a proper 390 Adv Rally in their kitchen.
We are waiting for the new one.
Mg stop your ads 😅
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