GW made House Esher back in the 90's when the...2nd ed. (I think, I seem to recall some White Dwarf articles of rules for Necromunda some years before that) of Necromunda, so I'm pretty sure it was not a "strategic" decision, but rather a question of "let's make some cool miniatures, and some distinct gangs..." And the (old) Esher models were damned cool :-)
Absolutely can get chem thrower and plasma gun in an Escher list. Queen - Mesh, Shock Whip, combi needler/bolter Death Maiden - Mesh, stiletto sword, needle pistol Matriarch - Mesh, plasma gun Specialist - chem thrower, chem synth Sister - lasgun Sister - lasgun Little Sister - stub gun, stiletto knife. Comes out at 1000 creds on the nose, only 7 bodies which is risky for an Escher gang but comes with all the tools out the gate, add another sister or two with lasguns or shotguns to round out the list with your early income and you're golden.
Chem alchemy is really good in one-off battles, but if used in a campaign it's going to absolutely murder your own economy. I think the best way to build Escher, as counter-lore as it sounds, is to completely forget about gas and toxin. You can get 6 boltguns or grenade launchers (or any mix of the two) into a starting gang. That kind of firepower rivals even the best starting builds from Van Saar.
@@wellywoodwargaming I agree that spamming can be boring. I wasn't suggesting that anyone actually runs that, outside of any competitive environment. My point is that the best conventional weapons are still better than gas and toxin, even when chem alchemy is factored in. And since there is anti-synergy between conventional weapons and gas/toxin, you are better off leaving gas/toxin out of your roster altogether. If you want a gang that is good, that is. If you are playing for theme or memes, anything is fair game.
As an Eldar (Craftworld Aeldari) player in 40k it seems this would be the best choice for me. I'm not sure how much experience you have in 40k but I'm seeing similarities.
Speaking of versatile swords, do people have a favorite: stiletto or power? I've got a death maiden with two swords. Currently I'm planning to run her with one of each just to see how they stack up.
For DM I’d go with Stilleto swords! Potent but also leaning into the theme! Poison Blood baby! That is unless parry is strong in your meta! Or you like power swords!
@@stuartbanana5083 one of each? Go with stilettos, and Master Crafted. Get 2 rerolls to hit and make your opponant reroll 2 successful hits. Plus the toxins you can stack up. My queen has the 2 MC stilettos, chem synth, lasgun, mesh, ablative overlay, scrape shield, cred sniffer and Falsehood currently in my campaign. Lol she's mean
Post covid insanity goes well for you, great video and my favourite gang. I like the models, but since I have so many I also got the old metal models and converted some from an AoS Underworlds kit.
@@wellywoodwargaming built up my escher gang whilst watching this video. Well started to as it took a few hours of list building lol. Hope your well dude.
I have 17 of these little psychos nearly all painted. I can't wait to get someone in my basement to play dollies with...and yes I made it weird on purpose.
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Ha ha. Wife isn’t around anymore and you don’t have to hide in the garage.
Exactly bro lol
Great video. Very comprehensive. Keep up the great work!
lmao, i almost pissed myself!! "If you like the model (brute) I don't like you!".....you crack me up with your unexpected remarks, so hilarious.
At least someone appreciates it 🤣
Stop making such good videos, each one makes me want to play the gang in a campaign.
Comment like these make me happy 😊
Well, at least you were in character and lore representing House van Saar by slowly suffering from degrading health.
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GW made House Esher back in the 90's when the...2nd ed. (I think, I seem to recall some White Dwarf articles of rules for Necromunda some years before that) of Necromunda, so I'm pretty sure it was not a "strategic" decision, but rather a question of "let's make some cool miniatures, and some distinct gangs..." And the (old) Esher models were damned cool :-)
I definitely prefer the older miniatures
Absolutely can get chem thrower and plasma gun in an Escher list.
Queen - Mesh, Shock Whip, combi needler/bolter
Death Maiden - Mesh, stiletto sword, needle pistol
Matriarch - Mesh, plasma gun
Specialist - chem thrower, chem synth
Sister - lasgun
Sister - lasgun
Little Sister - stub gun, stiletto knife.
Comes out at 1000 creds on the nose, only 7 bodies which is risky for an Escher gang but comes with all the tools out the gate, add another sister or two with lasguns or shotguns to round out the list with your early income and you're golden.
Great content as usual; keep up the good work and cheers! :)
Heard a hint to that delaque gang guide, can't wait. They're my second favorite after cawdor
I agree, I prefer the older metal minis.
Agree with all. Escher looks fun to play and scary on the opposite side.
Chem alchemy is a beast once unleashed 😅
Nice vid, nice information
Also the bow on the Khimerix is the only thing about the model that I like haha, made mine from an AoS snake lady and spare Nachtghul talons.
Unfortunately, squats may shoot you off the board before you get into grenade range. Highly recommend smokes if you play on more open tables.
You are doing a great job of all the gangs for necromunda man. Can't wait for your next campaign.
Take your time, take care of yourself. Pretty sure everyone is 100% okay with that, mate.
Chem alchemy is really good in one-off battles, but if used in a campaign it's going to absolutely murder your own economy. I think the best way to build Escher, as counter-lore as it sounds, is to completely forget about gas and toxin. You can get 6 boltguns or grenade launchers (or any mix of the two) into a starting gang. That kind of firepower rivals even the best starting builds from Van Saar.
That's not any fun at all to either play with or play against. Spamming weapons is really not my vibe personally dude, but appreciate your take
@@wellywoodwargaming I agree that spamming can be boring. I wasn't suggesting that anyone actually runs that, outside of any competitive environment. My point is that the best conventional weapons are still better than gas and toxin, even when chem alchemy is factored in. And since there is anti-synergy between conventional weapons and gas/toxin, you are better off leaving gas/toxin out of your roster altogether. If you want a gang that is good, that is. If you are playing for theme or memes, anything is fair game.
A fantastically indepth overview of the eschers! Nice!
As an Eldar (Craftworld Aeldari) player in 40k it seems this would be the best choice for me. I'm not sure how much experience you have in 40k but I'm seeing similarities.
Speaking of versatile swords, do people have a favorite: stiletto or power? I've got a death maiden with two swords. Currently I'm planning to run her with one of each just to see how they stack up.
For DM I’d go with Stilleto swords! Potent but also leaning into the theme! Poison Blood baby!
That is unless parry is strong in your meta! Or you like power swords!
@@stuartbanana5083 one of each? Go with stilettos, and Master Crafted. Get 2 rerolls to hit and make your opponant reroll 2 successful hits. Plus the toxins you can stack up. My queen has the 2 MC stilettos, chem synth, lasgun, mesh, ablative overlay, scrape shield, cred sniffer and Falsehood currently in my campaign. Lol she's mean
Dome Runners did a good rundown of chem alchemy recipes on her yt channel.
Tbh, the best juve in the game is the one that GSC have. A 25 cred 4+ ws/bs weapon platform with infiltrate installed.
Assuming you mean CGC ? The most overpowered and undercosted thing in the game yes
@@wellywoodwargaming Yeah, sorry, i meant cgc. In my defence it was 3 AM when i wrote the comment XD
Post covid insanity goes well for you, great video and my favourite gang. I like the models, but since I have so many I also got the old metal models and converted some from an AoS Underworlds kit.
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Logical!
@@wellywoodwargaming built up my escher gang whilst watching this video. Well started to as it took a few hours of list building lol. Hope your well dude.
"Nine inches is pretty far if you think about it." 😂
Indeed 😉
I have 17 of these little psychos nearly all painted. I can't wait to get someone in my basement to play dollies with...and yes I made it weird on purpose.