How to Play Phoenix Wright and Mia Fey in Dungeons & Dragons (Ace Attorney Builds for D&D 5e)

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  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2022
  • Today we have a build for Phoenix Wright and Mia Fey from Ace Attorney in Dungeons & Dragons. If your D&D 5e Party is committing a lot of crimes, maybe you should have a good lawyer.
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  • @HellsCowBoy666
    @HellsCowBoy666 Год назад +65

    "we're gonna fill Phoenix's gaps...just like Miles does off screen" SIR!

    • @mightywaranvil2912
      @mightywaranvil2912 Год назад +4

      That certainly is one of the double meanings ever.
      Hooray for gay lawyers!

  • @JakeTheHawk
    @JakeTheHawk Год назад +151

    I know it's a small thing but the way the clip panned over to Mia perfectly in sync with when you said "and Mia Fey" was mwah chefs kiss ten/10

    • @Fae2705
      @Fae2705 Год назад +2

      Well spotted!

  • @nananamamana3591
    @nananamamana3591 Год назад +18

    "To my knowledge, Phoenix isn't known to stab people?"
    Nah, that's more a Godot power.

  • @robbinridunk
    @robbinridunk Год назад +41

    The "off-screen" joke halfway through made me double over cackling, i was NOT expecting it 🤣

  • @jackofminds8338
    @jackofminds8338 Год назад +39

    Just started listening, and I'm already happy that you remembered Phoenix is nigh- indestructible.

  • @underware_pr
    @underware_pr Год назад +12

    "Nobody's lactose intolerant in Heaven, Krillin. That's why it's *Heaven*."
    - TFS Gohan

  • @RobertBass
    @RobertBass Год назад +91

    I miiiight use Mia's 10th level Magical Secrets to pick up Dispel Evil and Good instead of Banishment. If the goal is to perform an exorcism, Banishment won't actually work on a creature that's possessing another creature. Dispel Evil and Good, on the other hand, not only works like Banishment for ghosts, but you can also use it to protect yourself against supernatural beings *and* use it to *actually* exorcize a creature by ending a possession effect.

    • @neonal18
      @neonal18 Год назад +11

      It’s pretty good for tending to a garden, too. Never know when you’ll have to prune some Dahlias.

    • @RobertBass
      @RobertBass Год назад +4

      @@neonal18 That was terrible. I approve.

  • @jansolo4628
    @jansolo4628 Год назад +11

    *HOLD IT!* While both these builds are thematically fitting and effective for their purpose, the defense proposes that this still isn't perfect! *TAKE THIS!* [Counterspell]. Counterspell is a perfect way to symbolize calling "Hold it!" or "Objection!" to an enemy spellcaster and thematically fits better than Stoneskin as his Magical Secrets!
    Now you might claim that Stoneskin is effective in symbolizing his sturdiness and the ability to survive almost anything; well to that I say *OBJECTION!* There are two things that can fulfill that purpose better: [Feat: Tough] + [Feat: Resilient - Con]. These two feats can easily replace the Wisdom ASIs that Phoenix received in his build and are both more thematically appropriate AND generally effective for the build than relying on yet another Concentration spell. In fact, Resilient: Con not only helps with saves against spells, but also helps him retain the very Concentration that this build heavily relies upon. (Note: [Feat: Lucky] is also an alternative option, like how sometimes two pieces of evidence are both correct options).
    The prosecution might claim that Wisdom helps with Phoenix's skill checks but in fact, putting Expertise into Insight and Perception is generally sufficient and has a greater effect than a +1 to the stat! In fact, Phoenix has shown his relatively low Wisdom stat multiple times in the series such as trying to run across a burning bridge without thinking [case 3-5], having horrible Animal Handling [case 2-3], and failing multiple contested Insight vs Deception checks [2-4, 3-1, the flashback trial portion in Apollo Justice, etc.]. This isn't to say he would have a negative Wisdom, it's just clear that he isn't as wise as his peers! In fact, Mia often gave guidance to Phoenix whenever he misses a detail!
    One could also argue that Glibness is an ideal way to symbolize the Turnabout portions of court cases, with Phoenix's unfailing Charisma checks, but this will require further retooling of the build as it will have to be Bard 15/Rogue 5 instead. But one less feat just for one specific 8th level spell? Yeah, I think the class distribution you made was already good.
    In conclusion... I just wanted to pretend I was an Ace Attorney myself. I may have gotten too carried away just to simultaneously make a joke and give an alternative build path. Anyway, great vid nonetheless. I definitely enjoyed both giving Mia the same classes as Phoenix but with ghostly subclasses and the NaruMitsu sex jokes.

  • @burrito9327
    @burrito9327 Год назад +24

    I'm glad we can all come together as a community and agree Edgeworth is a bottom.

  • @hexshadowman
    @hexshadowman Год назад +32

    I love when you make builds that aren't combat-focused, like these two or The Doctor. D&D is so much more than just fighting, and lots of players underestimate just how useful good RPing can be.

    • @Silverwind87
      @Silverwind87 10 месяцев назад +2

      It also gives a lot of opportunity for the DM to build the campaign around the players' backstories. Like maybe Phoenix has to represent another player character after they get imprisoned by the Fey. In court. Seelie Court.

  • @FluffyLlamacorn
    @FluffyLlamacorn Год назад +5

    "He's like Bugs Bunny, if Bugs Bunny had a law degree" --> implying that he doesn't

  • @Urtheart
    @Urtheart Год назад +30

    As much as I would like to see other characters in the series, I assume most of them will be very similar
    Maybe Franziska Von Karma, as it is at least confirmed she has a weapon... and it hurts... possibly more than her words

    • @dragonboyjgh
      @dragonboyjgh Год назад +2

      The sidekicks would be better. Maya Fey (probably still close to her sister, but definitely less lean into the diplomancer side), Kay Faraday, Trucy Wright, Ema Skye, heck you could even throw in Larry Butz if you used that super old Satire Bard UA.

    • @silversonome5360
      @silversonome5360 Год назад +2

      Franziska's arguments are about as effective as Sae Nijima's interrogation techniques

    • @glennbob5093
      @glennbob5093 Год назад +1

      I made a Pathfinder 1e character inspired by Franziska, a mesmerist with a whip. It was fun for the one-shot I played her for.

    • @marykateharmon
      @marykateharmon Год назад +4

      You're forgetting Simon Blackquill, the Twisted Samurai with a hawk.

    • @marykateharmon
      @marykateharmon Год назад +2

      Also, Miles Edgeworth would focus on intelligence over charisma though charisma would likely be his second most important stat after intelligence with wisdom being the third most important, with investigation and insight being his top two skills. He'd still be an inquisitive rogue (or perhaps mastermind rogue), but he'd likely either be a lore bard or a battle master fighter or samurai. Battle master though could be a way to have the chess mechanic from the 2nd Prosecutor spin off game be within the game, especially with the ability to choose to play ante-chess for your game of choice.
      There's plenty of ways to differentiate between the different ace atternoys and even of Professor Layton.

  • @TheMARStudios
    @TheMARStudios Год назад +22

    The further into the video I got, the more I wanted to play these two. Love skill monkeys and if both these two are at a table then a party could enjoy pretty much any social encounter.

  • @ThespisViridian
    @ThespisViridian Год назад +15

    I thought this was going to be Phoenix and Maya for a moment then I realized it was Mia. Love the builds though. (Also Lawyer Bard Wrights! I mean Rights!)

  • @neonal18
    @neonal18 Год назад +29

    I didn't even know these builds were coming but I've never been more excited for any others. 5:24 That joke was incredible though.

  • @itwasidio1736
    @itwasidio1736 Год назад +7

    YES
    YES
    YES
    if you play either of them you have to shout: "OBJECTION" whenever you roll a natural 20

  • @SuperBatSpider
    @SuperBatSpider Год назад +17

    I made Phoenix Wright a Bard with Divination spells to investigate and only doing damage using spells with vocal components.
    Edit:I know he used it too, but I didn’t multiclass.

  • @robertlombardo8437
    @robertlombardo8437 Год назад +12

    Tulok. You HAVE TO do my favorite character from Ace Attorney next. You know who I'm talking about...
    *"FREEZE SCUMBAGS, IT'S THE CAAAAWWPS!!!"*

    • @itwasidio1736
      @itwasidio1736 Год назад

      "The only thing on my menu is Dick... Gumshoe."

    • @caranostalgico9249
      @caranostalgico9249 Год назад +2

      Yes, a double feature with Dick Gumshoe and Larry Butz, the two comic relief characters would be awesome!

    • @robertlombardo8437
      @robertlombardo8437 Год назад

      @@caranostalgico9249
      Impressive job, being an important part of the party as well as the plucky comic relief. But those two are it!

  • @TigerW0lf
    @TigerW0lf Год назад +5

    Now I know how to build the ultimate rules lawer! For justice, of course.

  • @nickbrown638
    @nickbrown638 Год назад +3

    Phoenix fell off a bridge into a ravine and lived with no permanent damage whatsoever. My guy maxed out con asap.

  • @Silverwind87
    @Silverwind87 10 месяцев назад +1

    You know, Sam Riegel voiced Phoenix Wright in Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3, and in the two most recent Ace Attorney games. Sam's first Critical Role character, Scanlan Shorthalt, was a Glamour Bard, the College of Glamour being connected to the Feywild. The FEY wild. Also fey commonly assemble within courts, so now I _need_ art of Scanlan making a big OBJECTION while using Bigby's Hand to point.

  • @VanessaVersus
    @VanessaVersus Год назад +8

    choked on my drink when I saw this thumbnail; there's no fucking way you've pulled this off
    EDIT: Son of a *bitch*

  • @MaisieDotJPEG
    @MaisieDotJPEG Год назад +3

    Love that mystery skulls reference

  • @hydrastuff8029
    @hydrastuff8029 Год назад +7

    It's crazy Phoenix can catch Ezio from sneaking up on him

    • @charlesdean5750
      @charlesdean5750 Год назад +2

      now lets see him against Arno, Altair, Loki, and whoever is the last sneaker for this roster
      like straight up amazing if they somehow still get caught lmaooo

  • @thatoneguynobodylikes8553
    @thatoneguynobodylikes8553 Год назад +5

    So funny story: I'm literally playing this build in my current campaign. Like we started a few months ago after I had to step down from DMing, and I'm playing Phoenix.

  • @caranostalgico9249
    @caranostalgico9249 Год назад +4

    Funnily enough, there is kind of a career plan for a lawyer in DnD: ideally you can graduate as a Silverquill student in the prestigious Strixhaven University, to get a job as a Documancer in the Aquisitions Inc Adventuring Company, and from there the world is your oyster! *Okay Omin, I said the thing are we even now, right?

  • @Eramiserasmus
    @Eramiserasmus Год назад +5

    Absolutely want this duo in my next game. The adventurers need capable lawyers!

  • @alezap5060
    @alezap5060 Год назад +2

    Reading "silvery barfs" instead of "silvery barbs" made the experience so much better

  • @thegneech
    @thegneech Год назад +4

    My excitement for this video is so high that I can't HOLD IT!

  • @joshuaharmon6684
    @joshuaharmon6684 Год назад +3

    I already have a Phoenix Wright chapter in one of my campaigns, but, I guess I could expand it... 🎲

  • @koboldwizard
    @koboldwizard Год назад +1

    on the tulok the barbarian channel we got:
    ghosts
    lawyers
    ghost lawyers
    we got everything

  • @curvilinearcube8716
    @curvilinearcube8716 Год назад +3

    So excited to play as these two with my sister next time we play a game of DnD maybe.

  • @paulpower9959
    @paulpower9959 Год назад +1

    A ghost lawyer is a lawyer who is a ghost, a lawyer ghost is the ghost of a lawyer. Korn explained this years ago

  • @spencermatthewseams6736
    @spencermatthewseams6736 Год назад +1

    Really looking forward to this

  • @JessieShadowhold
    @JessieShadowhold Год назад +1

    "every GM gives the party sending stones"
    Maybe it's just how I run games but I'm more of a "give the whole party bags of holding" GM so I don't have to deal with encomberance and because I love making my players think about what their character would do when they know something their character doesn't

  • @Working_Dreamer
    @Working_Dreamer Год назад

    Now that we got Phoenix Wright I’d love to see how you’d tackle Professor Layton! Excellent video!

  • @nintenjoe9022
    @nintenjoe9022 Год назад

    I love this series and I’m SO glad they get some attention. First the Naruto build I’ve been waiting for for about a year and now this?! So happy!!!

  • @murkyspace6635
    @murkyspace6635 Год назад +5

    Y'know, when you made the "X in Phoenix" joke, I was definitely expecting an Organization XIII reference. Great video!

  • @MadSwedishGamer
    @MadSwedishGamer Год назад +1

    Fuck yeah! Been slightly obsessed with Ace Attorney lately so this was great.

  • @twifairycosplay
    @twifairycosplay Год назад +1

    AAAAAH IT’S OUT I’M SO EXCITED

  • @G-Blockster
    @G-Blockster Год назад +2

    Nice job. Gotta love attorneys.

  • @nerdygem8620
    @nerdygem8620 Год назад

    5:22 You didn't have to go for my boy like that

  • @DoctorSanity
    @DoctorSanity Год назад

    "We''re gonna fill in Phoenix's gaps, kind of like what Miles does off-screen" OH MY GOD?

  • @jadedinosaur7573
    @jadedinosaur7573 Год назад

    With just a tiny bit of retooling, the first one could be a fantastic Benoit Blanc build. :)

  • @SlvrStryker
    @SlvrStryker Год назад +15

    So I love both builds, straight up wonderful for the attorneys. However, I would like to point out that Mia never was shown to do any level of channeling. She was also the *channelee* by either Maya or Pearls. ^^;

    • @megaplays2748
      @megaplays2748 Год назад +15

      If I recall, Maya said that her channeling skills surpassed her own, so it's likely she is very skilled but we never got the chance to see it.

    • @patdav56
      @patdav56 Год назад +13

      Mia was stated to be a stronger medium than Maya, with maya always living in her sister's shadow. Pearl is arguably stronger than Mia by sheer giftedness, but shes a one in a million from a branch family, rather than a proper member of the bloodline

  • @brianformica2599
    @brianformica2599 Год назад +2

    Nice uses of OBJECTION!

  • @gamemasteranthony2756
    @gamemasteranthony2756 Год назад +2

    About Reborn: There’s this game I played for the XBOX360 called “Lost Odyssey” where the main character (as well as others) are called Immortals in game. They apparently cannot die and now I am curious to see a build for one of them.

  • @Silverwind87
    @Silverwind87 10 месяцев назад +1

    What if Phoenix was a Warlock and his Patron is his client? Like an Archfey who always gets into trouble with the Seelie Court. Get it? Court?

  • @breakingboardrooms1778
    @breakingboardrooms1778 Год назад +1

    I was on a call with my dad when the notification popped up, and I screamed.

  • @josephperez2004
    @josephperez2004 Год назад

    I am a fan of a Zone of Truth and Command combo. Zone of Truth can be cancelled out by the target simply chosing not to talk. However, if you ask a question then use Command and say "Answer", if they fail they are compelled to answer you and tell the truth if affected by the Zone of Truth.

  • @AZDfox
    @AZDfox Год назад

    Jesse Faden can charm enemies and tank like Phoenix, and talk to the dead and change her outfit like Mia

  • @quartzninja
    @quartzninja Год назад

    Edit: Oh shit. My bad. I genuinely forgot you'd already done a few of them. Gonna have to give them a look.
    OG comment, for context:
    I don't know if you take requests or suggestions, but it'd be cool to see Borderlands characters and their unique playstyles translated into D&D.
    Especially given that the DLC from Borderlands 2 and the recent Wonderlands spin-off take significant inspiration from D&D, which already gives you some idea of how the characters could be adapted to fit the themes and classes.

  • @BlazeingShadows
    @BlazeingShadows Год назад

    OH Damn its december now! witch!

  • @agsilverradio2225
    @agsilverradio2225 Год назад +4

    Um actually, let's Insert rules-lawer joke.

  • @isaacgraff8288
    @isaacgraff8288 Год назад +1

    Ya know, Zone of Truth, Command and Speak with Dead would make a lot of court cases easy and almost pointless.

  • @Mary_Studios
    @Mary_Studios Год назад +2

    I was expecting to see clips of the game but the show works too. Also I just streamed this game on Thursday. Nice to see this build.

  • @charlesdean5750
    @charlesdean5750 Год назад

    FINALLY! THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS IS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT BABY!!! WHOOOOO ROLEPLAY!

  • @breakingboardrooms1778
    @breakingboardrooms1778 6 месяцев назад

    I need to build my Airbender Ninja Phoenix Wright.

  • @tigerfire8985
    @tigerfire8985 Год назад

    I'm surprised he didn't do Pinky and the Brain build for December

  • @Pomlithe
    @Pomlithe Год назад +2

    OH FUCK YEAH, LET'S GOOOO

  • @Robin_Glorb
    @Robin_Glorb Год назад

    3 minutes in, I have no idea what you're talking about, but I'm going to keep watching anyway

  • @puddlel1ama327
    @puddlel1ama327 Год назад

    calling it now, Phoenix is an Eloquence or Spirits Bard

  • @apex2000
    @apex2000 Год назад

    OBJECTION!

  • @linkdapuppyandfriends9023
    @linkdapuppyandfriends9023 Год назад

    Chainsawman and power (or aki,makima, maybe even kobeni)

  • @fearofdamoon
    @fearofdamoon Год назад

    We have a "cellphone" in my games but what is actually is a broken Sending stones. They never turn off, so if you are atuned to them you can hear everything the other person who is attuned says and what those around them say. But only the one who is atuned can hear everything that is being said.
    Downside is it never turns off, so you are always hearing the other person. No matter what they are doing. They seduce the local bar maid you better unatune unless you want to hear all of that. Are they in a very noisy room? You hear it all too.
    The trade up is though they don't have to explain everything to each other, that an npc says the party even when split is basically all on the same page as along as the two who are attuned are transferring the information

  • @BluShiGuy
    @BluShiGuy Год назад

    TAKE THAT

  • @Miju001
    @Miju001 Год назад

    5:25 THE SHARP INHALE I DID
    EDIT: 7:46 too omg

  • @123456789yeti
    @123456789yeti Год назад

    can... can you build Mr Crocker from fairly odd parents? i could see artificer ranger multiclass with all his crazy inventions and his hatred of fairies, feel like itd be a fun character.

  • @eliasgevaert6978
    @eliasgevaert6978 Год назад +2

    nice

  • @MrSHADOWANGEL999
    @MrSHADOWANGEL999 Год назад +1

    No objections

  • @burtmillard9196
    @burtmillard9196 Год назад +3

    At start. Calling Investigator Rogue and Spirit Bard.

  • @mothersuperior3181
    @mothersuperior3181 Год назад

    If you believe in yourself and with a tiny pinch of magic, all your dreams can come true

  • @dragonboyjgh
    @dragonboyjgh Год назад

    11:07 Lactghost intolerance!

  • @linksstruepower7443
    @linksstruepower7443 Год назад

    Team Four Star would disagree with you on lactose intolerance following you into the next life.
    No one is is Lactose intolerant in heaven, that's why it's heaven.

  • @Blaqueword
    @Blaqueword Год назад

    I really wanna know if making Unohana Retsu from Bleach is possible bc im stumped at splitting the cleric levels of healing with the Swordplay

  • @arizonaranger4454
    @arizonaranger4454 Год назад

    Saul Goodman when?

  • @gavinli1368
    @gavinli1368 Год назад

    5:24 YOU DID NOT JUST CALL EDGEWORTH A BOTTOM!!!!

  • @Jezoaragon
    @Jezoaragon Год назад

    Maybe make Popeye the Sailor Man if you haven’t already

  • @keeshawngaddy5974
    @keeshawngaddy5974 Год назад

    Can you do Senku from Dr. Stone????

  • @tibboocelot9272
    @tibboocelot9272 Год назад

    From the audio used for Phoenix's intro, the final duo build for December better be Jimmy and Mike.

  • @aurorafaerie
    @aurorafaerie Год назад

    Are you gonna do an update of Bayonetta and base her off of bayonetta 3

  • @DanielVCOliveira
    @DanielVCOliveira Год назад +1

    Use GURPS instead of D&D to build a character sometime, you'll not regret it. Plus, you'll never be able to take D&D's character builder seriously ever again.

  • @unironicallylikesranger7122
    @unironicallylikesranger7122 Год назад +2

    “Play the piano poorly,” I mean he did get payed for it so he wasn’t that bad. Still, most of the money he used to raise Trucy came from counting cards

  • @emperorxander666
    @emperorxander666 Год назад +1

    saul goodmen build when?

  • @whymihere86
    @whymihere86 Год назад

    Fill in Phoenix's gaps like Miles does offscreen. Someone found the shipping forums.

  • @flamescharcoal4682
    @flamescharcoal4682 Год назад +1

    Professor Layton build next?

  • @shanytopper2422
    @shanytopper2422 Год назад +3

    Phoenix Wright with no counterspell just feels wrong

  • @kianwhittle
    @kianwhittle Год назад

    Try d4c

  • @bloodywilliam3083
    @bloodywilliam3083 Год назад

    Why do you keep trying to fit round-shaped characters into the inflexible d&d mold? Shouldn’t you try something more flexible, like Wild Talents 2e? That has far more flexibility than D&D 5e, and also can be made to suit whatever character you want.

  • @tralberti
    @tralberti Год назад

    Please make a "How to play LIL' Sweet in D&D 5e". Ooooh yeeaaahhhh.....

  • @arandomdog8586
    @arandomdog8586 Год назад

    Just make them necromancers.

  • @nicolasvillasecaali7662
    @nicolasvillasecaali7662 Год назад +1

    OBJECTION!! If you think my case for a Tangle the lemur build from Sir Tulok (btw, please?) is a lost cause you have yet to know my resolve to see it a reality! I'm capable to anything, even calling a parrot or a wale as witnesses!
    Phoenix wright is a young attorney that under the tutelage of Mia Fey is shaping himself to become the guardian of the innocent we all need, not even allowing the claws of death to stop this duo of defense at law to do their best, the Fey family have a supernatural force on their veins and the lineage have as much bravery to face the corruption of the law system as any adventurer you can summon to face a dragon. If you want to find the truth you have to be willing to face above your intended work challenges, but if you surround yourself with people as devoted for what is right they will cover your back when do destiny put you on the accused stand.

    • @itwasidio1736
      @itwasidio1736 Год назад +1

      You should probably make these shorter, because even as a fan of your comments my brain shut off trying to read it. Mason managed to petition for the Anderson Cooper build because he was patient and didn't push it with every video.

    • @nicolasvillasecaali7662
      @nicolasvillasecaali7662 Год назад

      @@itwasidio1736 much appreciated that you could consider yourself a fan of this mate, i can try to shorten them to please you, but it being for 2 characters make it hard to say even a nod widouth a wall of text (also the constant part of it is to support the channel with the algorithm)

  • @hergetsafety408
    @hergetsafety408 Год назад

    Please do indigo Montano from the Princess bride

  • @amiiboacid4785
    @amiiboacid4785 Год назад

    When is Saul Goodman coming?

  • @taptemple6428
    @taptemple6428 Год назад

    Make Spear from Primal.

  • @LocalMaple
    @LocalMaple Год назад

    Claims Phoenix Wright doesn’t have damage.
    Daggers are 1d4+5d6+Dex thanks to Sneak Attack.

  • @Ender13123
    @Ender13123 Год назад

    walter white/saul goodmen?

  • @coolgreenbug7551
    @coolgreenbug7551 Год назад

    I would swap charisma with wisdom and try to get insight high instead of persuasion,
    Phoenix can't persuade his way out of a wet paper bag and has to prove everything he ever says at least 5 times before anyone even considers the idea

  • @rockyreyes8589
    @rockyreyes8589 Год назад

    You should do Berk from Berk

  • @kanrahatake3626
    @kanrahatake3626 Год назад +1

    First