Went to an AD and tried on the 41 mm mint dial. 6.5” wrist and fit absolutely perfect. It was absolutely gorgeous. I had a bad experience with that particular AD, so I didn’t buy it that day. Will find another AD and pick it up. It was hard to justify when compared to the similar movement in the tutor. However, like your final comment, there is no other watch that ticks all the boxes that this one does. Also it’s simply gorgeous. So it’s going to end up in my collection. Lastly , my dad passed last year and he was an electrical engineer who used a slide rule. I have one of his old slide tools and learn to use it after he passed, This watch with the slide rule reminds me of him every time I see it. So I simply have to have it
@@AndreiGeorgescu-j9p For a long while they had ETA movements but were charging thousands for the watches... which nicely designed though they were I just thought was a rip off.
Thank you for covering Breitling. It's my brand. You put forward the most honest, classy and respectful reviews on all brands. Bloody Legend mate! - Australia
I wanted a Breitling for a while but just couldn't settle on one. I got engaged in Ireland last August and a few days later flew out to Geneva. I bought the Premier B01 in Green at their flagship store on the lakefront, actually my finance bought it for me as a gift. We had a glass of champagne and then an evening walk along the lake, beautiful moment and beautiful watch.
An older Navitimer with the bullet proof Valjoux 7750 movement and the golden wings is the way to go. Much more affordable, easier to service, just as iconic and beautiful.
If you have a net worth of $5 million or more, this is the equivalent of the average joe buying a $200 watch, so "is it worth it" is relative to them based if they like the design. If you aren't rich, I guess you really will have to want this watch.
Seeing these come up on your channel leaves a great feeling for me having received a Navitimer Chronograph a few years ago. Now it may not be as stunning as that mint green beauty on the screen but I still love wearing my Breitling! Nothing beats the look a busy pilot dial. Great video Teddy! Thanks for showcasing such a fantastic watch👌🏻
Loads of RUclips uploaders and commentators have a 6 and half inch wrist. I feel like a freak for having a 7 and half inch wrists. So much so, that I never wear T-Shirts......😄
It's a grail watch for me. Right now I'm just frustrated at the price point and the limited colors available in 41mm. The classic reverse-panda and the sky blue are my favorites. However, those colors only come in larger size cases. They have a reputation of moisture and condensation issues inside the case. It would be hard to spend that much money on something that seems fragile. The Sinn 903 is a licensed version of the Navitimer. It has a much better water rating but I don't like the 10 O'clock crown.
I own the last gen reverse panda and I've had zero issue with moisture since I got it in late 2020. I live in humid as hell Florida and don't take it off to wash my hands. Definitely never take it swimming, but I wouldn't be worried about moisture on a day-to-day basis. I gotta say, the movement looks so much nicer on this latest gen, not to mention everything else.
Yeah. The bezel is harder to operate on the Sinn. The water resistance is a pretty big deal though... There was a GMT version in the previous line that was interesting.
I tried the larger Navi and the 41 with strap and bracelet. They are fantastic watches that not only look beautiful but wear great. I was surprised at how comfortable the larger diameter wore on my 6.5 wrist.
I mean. I’m not really understanding why movements are all we are speaking about in regards to price. The Navitimer 100% has way better finish than the Tudor chrono. No matter what anyone says. This simply can’t be denied.
Nice watches. I’m contemplating a 43mm with the ice blue dial myself. They wear small and the 41mm somehow feels too small on my wrist when I normally wear a Sub.
I recently purchased this 41mm Navitimer in the blue dial. Fits so perfectly for my small wrist on the bracelet. I also like that the AOPA logo has returned.
Purchased the 43mm reverse panda Navitimer on bracelet a few weeks ago from the Breitling boutique in Las Vegas. My 1st Breitling and 1st Navitimer. I'm very impressed by the B01 movement, the feel of the pushers is phenomenal, super solid with a very positive engagement. It's been on the top end of COSC at +4-6 SPD but very consistent, and the 70hr PR really is great. I love the new size, L2L, and thinness of the redesigned case. The brushing is very high quality and all the new brushed elements really elevate the finishing of the watch. The domed crystal is wonderful as well, and I really like the new/redone logo as well. Tons of improvements with this new model that really do elevate the piece to compete directly with Omega and their speedmasters. I see the 57 speedmasters as the direct competition, and the Navi really does have more pop and a more special look when you see them back to back. The 43 wears more like a 41-42 in person and the bracelet is very comfortable and excellent. There are some dial updates with this new model. They removed the tachymeter scale to clean up the look and modernize it. I actually like this change and it does look more modern and clean. The subdials have much more definition, are more sunken, and have more noticeable circles. The hands are also white which is much more legible. The black dial has a pearl effect in the sunlight that's very beautiful, but seems matte otherwise. The one negative change I see with this new model is the famous silver printing on the black dial is now standard white printing. I feel that this was an icon trait of the Navitimer and an overall downgrade. Also I would like to see an arrow tip on the chrono seconds hand. Sometimes it gets a bit lost in the dial and I think that would help. As far as price, I tend to agree with you Teddy. I see it more as a 7500-8000 watch. I did pay full retail, and it was kinda painful. I think Breitling and Omega both see the crazy market and what is happening with Rolex and feel this is a good opportunity to raise prices. There were a lot of improvements to the new navi, but the removal of the silver print takes away a very iconic and distinctive luxury finishing from these models, but the price was increased by at least $1,000. Also I don't think anything was improved in the movement, and it could really use additional antimagnetic resistance. Omega's movements still win overall in accuracy, antimagnatism, jumping hour (so useful for travel), and overall technology, but Breitling really has some absolutely georgous models out with just tons of personality. I love the superocean and premier lines especially.
EXACTLY!!! Why no one is discussing the missteps of this CURRENT CEO and his politically correct tinkering with the classic Navitimer design that amounts to practical butchery. Case in point the removal of the sea-wings logo from the dial and leaving the lone cursive B - THIS especially on the World-Timer GMT. This WAS MY favorite Navitimer BAR NONE...
I’ve been a huge Navitimer fan for years, and have owned 3. Personally I love this redesign, and think the flatter outer slide rule is a brilliant move as it makes the case slimmer, and enables the lugs to keep their classic thin elegant design whilst being very short.
The aesthetics are beautiful let’s get that right. They modernized a classic. I tried a bunch of them on at a boutique last weekend and the wrist presence was commanding. The haptic feedback on the pushers was satisfying. I had one major beef with the watch. The bracelet felt flimsy to me. In the end that was the dealbreaker. I may pick one of these up eventually but I’ll be certain to get a leather bracelet as well.
Amazing redesign. Arguably one of the most influential chronographs of all time. If you have other 100m WR watches this would be a wonderful primary chronograph in a collection. 30m is enough for hand washing, rain etc, just don’t jump in pool ofc. 99% of times you’ll be ok and you have your diver for swimming.
I love Navi timers, and I love mint ice cream, but I don't like them together. Also I think they are overpriced. Considering what omega coaxial costs. But I do love navis
I fear that I would go for the Tudor Chrono, if I had to choose. I hope that Breitling doesn’t corner itself with its pricing strategy, as Panerai did.
If you’re looking for a solid Daytona homage, then yes, the BB Chrono is hard to beat. The Navitimer is something all together different, it’s a legend in its own right, a much more historically important watch than the Daytona itself actually, which didn’t even sell when it came out. It only rose to fame due to a celebrity wearing one, and a run of pretentious collectors jumping on the vintage bandwagon.
The overall design is beautiful, but the 41 could use a black dial version not only in the Cosmonaute variant. The butterfly clasp, as a perfunctory and poorly adjustable concept, is also unbecoming of a watch at this price point.
1) The NT doesn’t necessarily wear large. So the 43, which makes for a better proportioned dial (IMHO), should fit a large panel of wrists. 2) That AOPA logo they unearthed for the current generation is still as hideous as on the day of its presentation… 3) The new butterfly clasp looks unnecessarily gigantic 😳
Tried on this watch last weekend at the ATL boutique. It’s a fine piece of jewelry! Was was very surprised the 43 wears smaller than the SUPEROCEAN heritage 42. Prefer it 100% over the Tudor BB chrono.
Really waint to get this mint green Breitling navitimer but right now they cost too much. Gonna have to wait untill I see some used one pop up in the eu market.
The Ice Blue dial in 43 is the nicest looking Navi to ever be released. I have the sunburst brown PanAm Navitimer, and I would consider selling for the that Ice Blue!
I'm more in to diver watches but when I first saw the ice blue Navitimer... I just must have one, my only critisizim is not about the watch but about the Breitling to make up their mind what logo they want to use and just stick to it.
I like the smaller dimensions of these Navitimers and the that particular mint-green dial is fab. However, the price point compared to other Chronos, especially the Omega Speedy and also what's been shared with the very well-priced Tudor could be an issue for Breitling.
Breitling is a higher grade brand to Tudor. Breitlings should cost more, it's no issue. Price wise it's up there with other chronos from brands like Zenith, Omega and IWC.
And then there's the Sinn 903... True aviation history, high quality, well made and about 1/3 the cost for the same movement and design. Tough choice. Better lume too.
The Sinn is a great way to get almost the same look with the added practicality of better water resistance, but no it doesn’t have the same movement, and the WR comes at a cost of making the slide rule completely unusable. That’s quite a compromise on the defining feature of the watch!
if there’s anyone who’s watching this from the UK & thinking about purchasing, i have the ice blue dial, 43mm version of this watch that i’m looking to sell for cheaper than retail, simply DM me to discuss
the column wheel has a blemish in the video... I tried this on the other day, very good size for a smaller wrist. Unfortunately the 30m WR is a show stopper for me.
I have always wanted one of these. I have the Citizen world timer chrono that is certainly an homage to the Navitimer, and I just love that watch. The Navitimer is still my holy grail watch
Tudor will always be a poor man's Rolex (I don't care how anyone wants to justify it to themselves). So I would choose the Navitimer over the Tudor every single time
Just bought one last week from Breitling on Regents Street. Lovely watch, an emotional buy for my collection but I love it, leather crocodile strap, mint green dial, a really smart piece.
May be a poor value proposition compared to the Tudor Chrono but a great deal compared to the Daytona even at $14.5k retail. It doesn’t even have a date. I am glad I got a limited edition several years ago. I think it’s one of the only 43mm models with the gold Breitling wings and the display back til this day.
Teddy, I have a Chronomat I bought in 89 and an old manual wind Cosmonaute. As a former military pilot, I can understand why pilots would own a Navitimer but not sure why someone that doesn't need the slide rule would want one.
I generally don't like busy dials, but I saw the green model at the dealer and I can't stop thinking about it. Looks extremely beautiful in person. My dainty wrist probably can't pull off 41mm, and my wallet would definitely struggle with the price tag, so it will remain in my brain only.
Wonderful presentation as always 🛩 no doubt about it the navi is a beautiful and refined achievement , but the thing to keep in mind is its purpose is geared towards Aviation not fashion . My dad was an aviator , and is the sort that could probably tell you what every tick on the scale was for and how to use it , I on the other hand lean towards the ocean 🌊 being a sailor / scuba diver and now a Marina manager so have focused on that realm , however flying is in my blood and every once in a while I’m tempted to explore the great blue skies. !!!
I've always wanted to like the Navitimer but could never get past the bling & the size but boy, are they finally on the right track now, I like movements but the Tudor is not evan close, you buy this one because it sings to you. And as a Oyster bracelet wearer for 40 years, this Breitling bracelet is simply spectacular. Great job Breitling!!!
Please Help, iam shortly before to buy the Breitling Navitimer with 18K Gold. the latest model, it would be my first watch and investment, I know Rolex is more safe in value over years, but I dont like Rolex that much, can anyone assume or tell me, if the Navitimer will keep its worth, i dont look for a watch to gain money or value, I would be happy to purchase a watch wich keeps its value, to in case of any emergency or whatever happens, sell it. Look for an easy answer, buy or not for my reason ?
For practical navigation reasons, aviation migrated somewhere in the early1960s to the nautical mile as the predominant unit of measuring distance and speed ( one degree equals 60 nm makes it very convenient to work with). It would have been more practical had the indexing on the dial been adjusted accordingly as it would have saved that extra step of converting statue miles into nautical miles in the end of each calculation. I know that nowadays with modern avionics is sound ridiculous, but I would have expected AOPA then ,as a bulk purchaser, to make it as one of the required specs given the large number of watches ordered.
I don’t have a problem with Tudor sharing the movement. The movement doesn’t make the whole watch, and the Tudor chrono (while a nice piece) is a whole rung below something like the Navitimer, which is an icon compared to the homage that the Tudor has become. That doesn’t mean that I don’t think that the Navitimer is not overpriced though. It definitely is. I see the Omega Speedmaster Professional as the main competition to the Navitimer as far as iconic Swiss chronographs, and there is no way the Breitling should be priced so far ahead of it, with the Omegas in house master chronometer co-axial movement and equal if not greater pedigree. Breitling is pretty optimistic with their pricing here.
The point is it's too damn expensive. Breitling is willing to market those that are willing to spend money beyond the technicals. I think the visuals of the dial and quality is where their strength is.
This watch cost about 23000 USD in my country. It`s supposed to be some kind of navigation/pilot watch? With that kind of price, and a water resistance of 3ATM????? Who the hell pays 23000USD for a watch with 3ATM????? And another thing.....the watch does not even look good. It`s to much going on at the dial, it is too busy/messy! 23000USD, think about how many fantastic watches you can buy for that kind of money. Do not buy this watch.
Hey Teddy, I have quite a few thoughts, The good: I love bringing back the wings logo. Although I do prefer the Breitling wings logo, the aopa wing logo is still a much better option than the B logo. I also love how they now have a 41mm with the b01 while previously the 41 had a valjoux 7750 movement. Also like how now all models, the 46, 43 and 41 all have an exhibition caseback. Before it was just the 46 and then the 43 and now it is all 3 sizes. The rotar weight is also less obstructive on this b01 compared to previous open display back models and the movement with the geneve stripes seems to be a little bit more decorated. Thats the good. The bad: I hate that they removed the tachymeter scale. For a while I couldn't quite figure it out but something about it just didn't look right. Then I read the comment section of a hodinkee article and someone pointed out its missing the tachymeter scale. Thats a big turnoff for me. Also I don't like how the chronograph seconds hand doesn't have an arrow at the tip, now its just a point. I also don't like how the crhonograph hands, as well as the hands in the sub register don't have a counterweight, even if it is more true to the original. Lastly, I don't like how on the white dial 41 version, the chrono seconds hand and other markers are red, they were orange on the previous 41mm white dial and to me, I thought that looked better. And I wish they had the black dial version in 41mm. While there are definitely some good things with these new releases, I think I am still going to get the 43mm black dial version with the gold applied wings logo from two generations ago, partly because I still prefer the look of that one and also because the pricing is much better for the older one going pre-owned. I am saving up for it and should have sufficient funds by the end of August to get one, it will be my first luxury watch.
I feel the same way! And thanks for pointing out the Tachymeter missing. It was irritating as hell why they looked slightly different and I couldn’t tell.
And I don’t really like the date hiding at 6 o’clock. What’s wrong with being non symmetrical? No watches are ever symmetrical as long as they have a crown on the side!
I feel exactly the same way. Removal of the tachymeter scale and simpler (more "modern") hands are really off-putting for me compared to the previous generation.
Damn...i think there is something like 3 square millimeters of dial space left they could have filled with more useless numerals of some sort, what a shame. Plenty of posers who think more is better now forever dissapointed.
It was designed as a tool watch with features requested by the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association. You want to own an updated version of this iconic model? This is great. Want a simple dial? Buy a different watch 🤷♂️🙄
30m water resistance?? Absolute garbage. If I’m going to pay $10k for a watch I want to know it can take a swim. And what if a pilot got shot down over the ocean? Guess he’d be telling time by the position of the Sun. Honestly I don’t even know why they make watches with less than 100m wr.
It’s simply not possible to improve WR with this classic design due to the requirement of being able to rotate the bezel against the seal. It’s all down to the internal slide rule.
Its the most beautiful Navitimer yet! But the thing is. Other brands seems to be able to make their chronographs water resistant up too 100m. Or at least 50. It simply comes across lazy... or "cheap" to let the WR cripple at 50. In the end it must have been the thickness of their crystal they wanted to keep down or something. When im wearing my Grand Seiko grail i can relax so much. 100WR is the key. I wouldnt want to wear this Navitimer when heavy rain hits me. I dont know i just wouldnt trust these 3Bars . The constant thought of water trying to get inbetween these 3Bar resistant pushers would give me constant anxiety. Something you shouldnt have when paying 8k for a sporty chronograph. .... :)
The Navitimer has a dynamic crystal, so when you turn the slide rule the crystal itself turns. That is the reason they can't increase the water resistance to those of normal chronographs.
You just need to understand it’s not laziness. Breitling have worked with the best case manufacturer in the business to try to improve WR. They found it’s practically impossible without increasing the case diameter by several millimetres, and ruining the classic design. Problem is the internal slide rule bezel which requires a big seal around the whole bezel which needs to both keep the water out, and allow manual rotation.
@@TheBrendonian Thanks for the detailed explanation. Seems like SINN actually did that design change to raise WR for their 903 model, after buying the design from breitling. I recently had a discision with my friend about watches only looking the part but lacking the specs to go on "adventures" Panerais crown guard on their newest dress watch variants comes to mind. Finally i can appreciate the SINN 903 even more. A watch to consider for the collection =)
@@watch_a_mod354 the Sinn is a lovely alternative, but the second crown solution makes the slide rule impractical. Breitling would never consider that option as the functional slide rule is the defining feature of the watch.
@@TheBrendonian just like Breitling sticks to their impractical 30 WR. Making it a glorified dress watch. I wouldnt give Breitling that much credit. And this topic will only go in circles ;)
Hey Teddy, as far as I know those are not Breitling’s old wing brand design, those are the AOPA wings commemorating the foundation heritage the Navitimer has.
@@meneurb A30030 silver. I have it on a steel mesh bracelet. Unfortunately, the slide rule bezel doesn't function well. It's jammed and only turns with excessive force - how is yours?
@@icychap mine bezel works fine... the watch is in excellent condition..i have some scratches from the use..i think ours watches is the sweet spot because is chronograph but a luxury elegant product, is not a sport one.. enjoy your watch and wear it.. cheers from Greece
Thats a beautiful watch. If I manage to become a pilot, that might have to be my graduation present to myself. Too bad it's got such a juicy price tag 😅
how does it fit for small wrist (6") compare to the 3861 moonwatch? At the AD it seems the 41mm navitimer has a smaller lug to lug and fit even better than the moonwatch.
Oof, I was thinking this would be my first big watch but 30m water resistance is putting me off. So you can't even wear it while washing your hands or in the rain?
Breitling are my new favourite brand at the moment I love everything they are doing BUT I do feel the are pricey for what they offer and Teddy touched on the same movements with Tudor which I find bizarre due to the price difference
Teddy. I love your videos. Big fan. You're such a balanced and nuanced presenter with the correct amount of personality; that makes it easy to always watch you... Anyway, would kindly like to request some more videos on Brew and maybe another new affordable micro-brand. Also some Kevin O'leary duettos. Thank you!
That’s my grail piece. Wanted one since I was 12yrs old.
Great pick imo, hope you can get one soon!
It was mine too when i was 16. When i was 19 i got one great piece next is rolex you know every one needs one😂
Me too, ever since I was old enough to notice the ads at the malls.
Me too, finally achieved it at 22...
Go high end dealer used imo
Went to an AD and tried on the 41 mm mint dial. 6.5” wrist and fit absolutely perfect. It was absolutely gorgeous. I had a bad experience with that particular AD, so I didn’t buy it that day. Will find another AD and pick it up. It was hard to justify when compared to the similar movement in the tutor. However, like your final comment, there is no other watch that ticks all the boxes that this one does. Also it’s simply gorgeous. So it’s going to end up in my collection. Lastly , my dad passed last year and he was an electrical engineer who used a slide rule. I have one of his old slide tools and learn to use it after he passed, This watch with the slide rule reminds me of him every time I see it. So I simply have to have it
wonder if you got it in the end?
Buying retail especially for breitling is a ridiculous idea. They resell for a third of their retail price right out the door
@@AndreiGeorgescu-j9p For a long while they had ETA movements but were charging thousands for the watches... which nicely designed though they were I just thought was a rip off.
@@AndreiGeorgescu-j9p Lmao ikr? I found the same watch online for 2k less after i left the AD
Breitling >> Tudor. There’s no comparison in the beauty of the dials.
The navitimer is my holy grail. Don't forget the Cosmonaute, a gorgeous watch with a 24 hour dial.
First Swiss watch in space! Take that Omega!
@@Joltsuthey never say they are the first in space it clearly says on the watch first worn on the moon which it was
Breitling has been stepping up their game, i own an avenger 43 and im super happy with everything about it
It's gorgeous. A wonderful revision of the iconic piece.
Thank you for covering Breitling. It's my brand. You put forward the most honest, classy and respectful reviews on all brands. Bloody Legend mate! - Australia
Beautiful watch….especially the mint green but…. the price….Wow! I can see this in my collection eventually. Great video. Keep making great content.
I wanted a Breitling for a while but just couldn't settle on one. I got engaged in Ireland last August and a few days later flew out to Geneva. I bought the Premier B01 in Green at their flagship store on the lakefront, actually my finance bought it for me as a gift. We had a glass of champagne and then an evening walk along the lake, beautiful moment and beautiful watch.
An older Navitimer with the bullet proof Valjoux 7750 movement and the golden wings is the way to go. Much more affordable, easier to service, just as iconic and beautiful.
If you have a net worth of $5 million or more, this is the equivalent of the average joe buying a $200 watch, so "is it worth it" is relative to them based if they like the design. If you aren't rich, I guess you really will have to want this watch.
Tudor might be a better "bang-for-your-buck" from a technical aspect. But nothing else pops off the wrist in tbe same category.
I have the A23322 with the ETA Silver Dial.
Wouldn´t trade it with any other chronograph or even watch.
My grail of all time.
Seeing these come up on your channel leaves a great feeling for me having received a Navitimer Chronograph a few years ago. Now it may not be as stunning as that mint green beauty on the screen but I still love wearing my Breitling! Nothing beats the look a busy pilot dial.
Great video Teddy! Thanks for showcasing such a fantastic watch👌🏻
Loads of RUclips uploaders and commentators have a 6 and half inch wrist. I feel like a freak for having a 7 and half inch wrists. So much so, that I never wear T-Shirts......😄
It's a grail watch for me. Right now I'm just frustrated at the price point and the limited colors available in 41mm. The classic reverse-panda and the sky blue are my favorites. However, those colors only come in larger size cases. They have a reputation of moisture and condensation issues inside the case. It would be hard to spend that much money on something that seems fragile. The Sinn 903 is a licensed version of the Navitimer. It has a much better water rating but I don't like the 10 O'clock crown.
I own the last gen reverse panda and I've had zero issue with moisture since I got it in late 2020. I live in humid as hell Florida and don't take it off to wash my hands. Definitely never take it swimming, but I wouldn't be worried about moisture on a day-to-day basis.
I gotta say, the movement looks so much nicer on this latest gen, not to mention everything else.
Yeah. The bezel is harder to operate on the Sinn. The water resistance is a pretty big deal though...
There was a GMT version in the previous line that was interesting.
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I really dislike the expression "grail watch". But I agree, it's the definitive chronograph.
Yeah I want a sky blue in a 43 but NOPE 46 only. So dumb.
41 felts great, 43 was already feeling too big for me. It was beautiful too
I tried the larger Navi and the 41 with strap and bracelet. They are fantastic watches that not only look beautiful but wear great. I was surprised at how comfortable the larger diameter wore on my 6.5 wrist.
I mean. I’m not really understanding why movements are all we are speaking about in regards to price. The Navitimer 100% has way better finish than the Tudor chrono. No matter what anyone says. This simply can’t be denied.
Nice watches. I’m contemplating a 43mm with the ice blue dial myself. They wear small and the 41mm somehow feels too small on my wrist when I normally wear a Sub.
I recently purchased this 41mm Navitimer in the blue dial. Fits so perfectly for my small wrist on the bracelet. I also like that the AOPA logo has returned.
I have the bronze. Stunning watches!
Purchased the 43mm reverse panda Navitimer on bracelet a few weeks ago from the Breitling boutique in Las Vegas. My 1st Breitling and 1st Navitimer. I'm very impressed by the B01 movement, the feel of the pushers is phenomenal, super solid with a very positive engagement. It's been on the top end of COSC at +4-6 SPD but very consistent, and the 70hr PR really is great. I love the new size, L2L, and thinness of the redesigned case. The brushing is very high quality and all the new brushed elements really elevate the finishing of the watch. The domed crystal is wonderful as well, and I really like the new/redone logo as well. Tons of improvements with this new model that really do elevate the piece to compete directly with Omega and their speedmasters. I see the 57 speedmasters as the direct competition, and the Navi really does have more pop and a more special look when you see them back to back. The 43 wears more like a 41-42 in person and the bracelet is very comfortable and excellent.
There are some dial updates with this new model. They removed the tachymeter scale to clean up the look and modernize it. I actually like this change and it does look more modern and clean. The subdials have much more definition, are more sunken, and have more noticeable circles. The hands are also white which is much more legible. The black dial has a pearl effect in the sunlight that's very beautiful, but seems matte otherwise.
The one negative change I see with this new model is the famous silver printing on the black dial is now standard white printing. I feel that this was an icon trait of the Navitimer and an overall downgrade. Also I would like to see an arrow tip on the chrono seconds hand. Sometimes it gets a bit lost in the dial and I think that would help.
As far as price, I tend to agree with you Teddy. I see it more as a 7500-8000 watch. I did pay full retail, and it was kinda painful. I think Breitling and Omega both see the crazy market and what is happening with Rolex and feel this is a good opportunity to raise prices. There were a lot of improvements to the new navi, but the removal of the silver print takes away a very iconic and distinctive luxury finishing from these models, but the price was increased by at least $1,000. Also I don't think anything was improved in the movement, and it could really use additional antimagnetic resistance. Omega's movements still win overall in accuracy, antimagnatism, jumping hour (so useful for travel), and overall technology, but Breitling really has some absolutely georgous models out with just tons of personality. I love the superocean and premier lines especially.
The funny thing is 99% of the people buying a Navitimer doesn't even know what on earth those readings are on the dial...🤣😂🤣🤣
Exactly
That 30m water resistance is absolutely ridiculous on a modern watch from a major Swiss manufacturer whose price approaches near five digits.
Brietling nailing the colour ways!! Cool watches!!! Cheers as ever Teddy!!!
I can speculate that the Tudor was not allowed to use the 12hr subdial. That would’ve made the Tudor perfect.
The green dial, I suspect, is a tip of the hat to the color that some people's faces become in turbulent air...
Another great video, as always.
Great watch, but the new logo sucks....
It’s not a new logo, it’s the AOPA logo as used on the original Navitimer 70 years ago!
They removed the sloped outer ring that gave the watch amazing depth. I much prefer the older models, like my own A23322.
EXACTLY!!!
Why no one is discussing the missteps of this CURRENT CEO and his politically correct tinkering with the classic Navitimer design that amounts to practical butchery.
Case in point the removal of the sea-wings logo from the dial and leaving the lone cursive B - THIS especially on the World-Timer GMT.
This WAS MY favorite Navitimer BAR NONE...
THESE new models are seemingly designed to appeal to younger women and kids for fun in the sun BEACH WEAR, rather than a SERIOUS pilots instrument...
I’ve been a huge Navitimer fan for years, and have owned 3. Personally I love this redesign, and think the flatter outer slide rule is a brilliant move as it makes the case slimmer, and enables the lugs to keep their classic thin elegant design whilst being very short.
The aesthetics are beautiful let’s get that right. They modernized a classic. I tried a bunch of them on at a boutique last weekend and the wrist presence was commanding. The haptic feedback on the pushers was satisfying. I had one major beef with the watch. The bracelet felt flimsy to me. In the end that was the dealbreaker. I may pick one of these up eventually but I’ll be certain to get a leather bracelet as well.
I absolutely love Breitling. I own a 44 SuperOcean. However, this logo on the Navitimer is peculiar.
Amazing redesign. Arguably one of the most influential chronographs of all time.
If you have other 100m WR watches this would be a wonderful primary chronograph in a collection. 30m is enough for hand washing, rain etc, just don’t jump in pool ofc. 99% of times you’ll be ok and you have your diver for swimming.
I think making a pilot watch good enough for swimming could be translated as a bad omen for the pilots ;)
I wouldn't handwach with a 30m
My logic exactly. I have several divers for summer.
My 05 navitimer heritage gets foggy around a whiff humidity, time for a service.
@@2K9s navitimers are notorious for such things
I love Navi timers, and I love mint ice cream, but I don't like them together.
Also I think they are overpriced.
Considering what omega coaxial costs.
But I do love navis
Hey Teddy! Could you please do a video on best watches for her?
Too much emphasis on case size. I have a 46 mm Chronoliner and I love it for a larger wrist.
I fear that I would go for the Tudor Chrono, if I had to choose.
I hope that Breitling doesn’t corner itself with its pricing strategy, as Panerai did.
I love Tudor too… just picked up a 1926 and own a couple Black Bays. Great all around watches
Breitling is on another level to Tudor. Price is similar to other chronos from Omega, IWC and Zenith
If you’re looking for a solid Daytona homage, then yes, the BB Chrono is hard to beat. The Navitimer is something all together different, it’s a legend in its own right, a much more historically important watch than the Daytona itself actually, which didn’t even sell when it came out. It only rose to fame due to a celebrity wearing one, and a run of pretentious collectors jumping on the vintage bandwagon.
The overall design is beautiful, but the 41 could use a black dial version not only in the Cosmonaute variant. The butterfly clasp, as a perfunctory and poorly adjustable concept, is also unbecoming of a watch at this price point.
1) The NT doesn’t necessarily wear large. So the 43, which makes for a better proportioned dial (IMHO), should fit a large panel of wrists.
2) That AOPA logo they unearthed for the current generation is still as hideous as on the day of its presentation…
3) The new butterfly clasp looks unnecessarily gigantic 😳
Finally a Breitling. You have so many Breitling fans in the comments but never review them!
Tried on this watch last weekend at the ATL boutique. It’s a fine piece of jewelry! Was was very surprised the 43 wears smaller than the SUPEROCEAN heritage 42. Prefer it 100% over the Tudor BB chrono.
Well you should. The Navitimer is a timeless historical icon, by one of the top Swiss brands of all time. The Tudor is an homage watch.
@@mach78fl370 😂 yes, I was trying to be polite, but totally agree with you!
Really waint to get this mint green Breitling navitimer but right now they cost too much. Gonna have to wait untill I see some used one pop up in the eu market.
The Ice Blue dial in 43 is the nicest looking Navi to ever be released. I have the sunburst brown PanAm Navitimer, and I would consider selling for the that Ice Blue!
If they made that ice blue dial in 41mm I couldn't say no
I'm more in to diver watches but when I first saw the ice blue Navitimer... I just must have one, my only critisizim is not about the watch but about the Breitling to make up their mind what logo they want to use and just stick to it.
your camerawork is amazing, Teddy! Wonderful watch!
i want the 43 mm ice blue dial with a leather strap! but the 41mm models look good as well
10:54 actually that is EXACTLY how I bought my white 41mm lol
I like the smaller dimensions of these Navitimers and the that particular mint-green dial is fab. However, the price point compared to other Chronos, especially the Omega Speedy and also what's been shared with the very well-priced Tudor could be an issue for Breitling.
Breitling is a higher grade brand to Tudor. Breitlings should cost more, it's no issue. Price wise it's up there with other chronos from brands like Zenith, Omega and IWC.
Thanks Teddy for the video, very informative. Again why not the 43 or even the 46mm. There are a lot of men with larger wrists.
And then there's the Sinn 903... True aviation history, high quality, well made and about 1/3 the cost for the same movement and design. Tough choice. Better lume too.
The Sinn is a great way to get almost the same look with the added practicality of better water resistance, but no it doesn’t have the same movement, and the WR comes at a cost of making the slide rule completely unusable. That’s quite a compromise on the defining feature of the watch!
if there’s anyone who’s watching this from the UK & thinking about purchasing, i have the ice blue dial, 43mm version of this watch that i’m looking to sell for cheaper than retail, simply DM me to discuss
the column wheel has a blemish in the video... I tried this on the other day, very good size for a smaller wrist. Unfortunately the 30m WR is a show stopper for me.
I have always wanted one of these. I have the Citizen world timer chrono that is certainly an homage to the Navitimer, and I just love that watch. The Navitimer is still my holy grail watch
Sucks they didn't release the B01 41mm in the classic panda dial
Love my new 43mm Navitimer. Blue face. It has a busy face, but it works.
Nice watch but for me I’m staying with my Junghans Meister Telemeter Chronograph.
Tudor will always be a poor man's Rolex (I don't care how anyone wants to justify it to themselves). So I would choose the Navitimer over the Tudor every single time
Amen on both fronts.
This watch is way overpriced.
That's a good looking bracelet.
Just bought one last week from Breitling on Regents Street. Lovely watch, an emotional buy for my collection but I love it, leather crocodile strap, mint green dial, a really smart piece.
May be a poor value proposition compared to the Tudor Chrono but a great deal compared to the Daytona even at $14.5k retail. It doesn’t even have a date.
I am glad I got a limited edition several years ago. I think it’s one of the only 43mm models with the gold Breitling wings and the display back til this day.
I love the watches! Though the price tag seems a little bit too steep for what it offers.
Teddy, I have a Chronomat I bought in 89 and an old manual wind Cosmonaute. As a former military pilot, I can understand why pilots would own a Navitimer but not sure why someone that doesn't need the slide rule would want one.
It hurts to watch…something you might never have. I skipped this one
Genuine beauty… on another note, anyone else spending more money than they would like to admit as a result of these videos?
not a fan of the watch but Teddy is doing a great job
I generally don't like busy dials, but I saw the green model at the dealer and I can't stop thinking about it. Looks extremely beautiful in person. My dainty wrist probably can't pull off 41mm, and my wallet would definitely struggle with the price tag, so it will remain in my brain only.
30m WR is just not enough!
Wonderful presentation as always 🛩 no doubt about it the navi is a beautiful and refined achievement , but the thing to keep in mind is its purpose is geared towards Aviation not fashion . My dad was an aviator , and is the sort that could probably tell you what every tick on the scale was for and how to use it , I on the other hand lean towards the ocean 🌊 being a sailor / scuba diver and now a Marina manager so have focused on that realm , however flying is in my blood and every once in a while I’m tempted to explore the great blue skies. !!!
I've always wanted to like the Navitimer but could never get past the bling & the size but boy, are they finally on the right track now, I like movements but the Tudor is not evan close, you buy this one because it sings to you. And as a Oyster bracelet wearer for 40 years, this Breitling bracelet is simply spectacular. Great job Breitling!!!
What a shame the copper dial doesn't come in 41mm :(
Please Help, iam shortly before to buy the Breitling Navitimer with 18K Gold. the latest model, it would be my first watch and investment, I know Rolex is more safe in value over years, but I dont like Rolex that much, can anyone assume or tell me, if the Navitimer will keep its worth, i dont look for a watch to gain money or value, I would be happy to purchase a watch wich keeps its value, to in case of any emergency or whatever happens, sell it. Look for an easy answer, buy or not for my reason ?
For practical navigation reasons, aviation migrated somewhere in the early1960s to the nautical mile as the predominant unit of measuring distance and speed ( one degree equals 60 nm makes it very convenient to work with). It would have been more practical had the indexing on the dial been adjusted accordingly as it would have saved that extra step of converting statue miles into nautical miles in the end of each calculation. I know that nowadays with modern avionics is sound ridiculous, but I would have expected AOPA then ,as a bulk purchaser, to make it as one of the required specs given the large number of watches ordered.
I don’t have a problem with Tudor sharing the movement. The movement doesn’t make the whole watch, and the Tudor chrono (while a nice piece) is a whole rung below something like the Navitimer, which is an icon compared to the homage that the Tudor has become. That doesn’t mean that I don’t think that the Navitimer is not overpriced though. It definitely is. I see the Omega Speedmaster Professional as the main competition to the Navitimer as far as iconic Swiss chronographs, and there is no way the Breitling should be priced so far ahead of it, with the Omegas in house master chronometer co-axial movement and equal if not greater pedigree. Breitling is pretty optimistic with their pricing here.
The point is it's too damn expensive. Breitling is willing to market those that are willing to spend money beyond the technicals. I think the visuals of the dial and quality is where their strength is.
This watch cost about 23000 USD in my country. It`s supposed to be some kind of navigation/pilot watch? With that kind of price, and a water resistance of 3ATM????? Who the hell pays 23000USD for a watch with 3ATM????? And another thing.....the watch does not even look good. It`s to much going on at the dial, it is too busy/messy! 23000USD, think about how many fantastic watches you can buy for that kind of money. Do not buy this watch.
Hey Teddy, I have quite a few thoughts, The good: I love bringing back the wings logo. Although I do prefer the Breitling wings logo, the aopa wing logo is still a much better option than the B logo. I also love how they now have a 41mm with the b01 while previously the 41 had a valjoux 7750 movement. Also like how now all models, the 46, 43 and 41 all have an exhibition caseback. Before it was just the 46 and then the 43 and now it is all 3 sizes. The rotar weight is also less obstructive on this b01 compared to previous open display back models and the movement with the geneve stripes seems to be a little bit more decorated. Thats the good.
The bad: I hate that they removed the tachymeter scale. For a while I couldn't quite figure it out but something about it just didn't look right. Then I read the comment section of a hodinkee article and someone pointed out its missing the tachymeter scale. Thats a big turnoff for me. Also I don't like how the chronograph seconds hand doesn't have an arrow at the tip, now its just a point. I also don't like how the crhonograph hands, as well as the hands in the sub register don't have a counterweight, even if it is more true to the original. Lastly, I don't like how on the white dial 41 version, the chrono seconds hand and other markers are red, they were orange on the previous 41mm white dial and to me, I thought that looked better. And I wish they had the black dial version in 41mm.
While there are definitely some good things with these new releases, I think I am still going to get the 43mm black dial version with the gold applied wings logo from two generations ago, partly because I still prefer the look of that one and also because the pricing is much better for the older one going pre-owned. I am saving up for it and should have sufficient funds by the end of August to get one, it will be my first luxury watch.
I feel the same way! And thanks for pointing out the Tachymeter missing. It was irritating as hell why they looked slightly different and I couldn’t tell.
And I don’t really like the date hiding at 6 o’clock. What’s wrong with being non symmetrical? No watches are ever symmetrical as long as they have a crown on the side!
I feel exactly the same way. Removal of the tachymeter scale and simpler (more "modern") hands are really off-putting for me compared to the previous generation.
gorgeous. it's like you said, there's only one navitimer. personally like the older wing logo best, but no complaints about this watch.
Because of that 41mm, I now like the Navitimer again.
Damn...i think there is something like 3 square millimeters of dial space left they could have filled with more useless numerals of some sort, what a shame. Plenty of posers who think more is better now forever dissapointed.
It was designed as a tool watch with features requested by the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association. You want to own an updated version of this iconic model? This is great. Want a simple dial? Buy a different watch 🤷♂️🙄
30m water resistance?? Absolute garbage. If I’m going to pay $10k for a watch I want to know it can take a swim. And what if a pilot got shot down over the ocean? Guess he’d be telling time by the position of the Sun. Honestly I don’t even know why they make watches with less than 100m wr.
It’s simply not possible to improve WR with this classic design due to the requirement of being able to rotate the bezel against the seal. It’s all down to the internal slide rule.
Calling it garbage because you don’t understand the reason, and because it doesn’t suit your personal needs is just wrong.
I can't wear one because I feel like a poseur. I just think I need a pilot's license to wear it lol
Wish I didn’t have such stupid small wrists for a guy lol I’d snag this in a heartbeat. Still might since the lug to lug is under 47 idk
Its the most beautiful Navitimer yet! But the thing is. Other brands seems to be able to make their chronographs water resistant up too 100m. Or at least 50. It simply comes across lazy... or "cheap" to let the WR cripple at 50. In the end it must have been the thickness of their crystal they wanted to keep down or something.
When im wearing my Grand Seiko grail i can relax so much. 100WR is the key. I wouldnt want to wear this Navitimer when heavy rain hits me. I dont know i just wouldnt trust these 3Bars . The constant thought of water trying to get inbetween these 3Bar resistant pushers would give me constant anxiety. Something you shouldnt have when paying 8k for a sporty chronograph. .... :)
The Navitimer has a dynamic crystal, so when you turn the slide rule the crystal itself turns. That is the reason they can't increase the water resistance to those of normal chronographs.
You just need to understand it’s not laziness. Breitling have worked with the best case manufacturer in the business to try to improve WR. They found it’s practically impossible without increasing the case diameter by several millimetres, and ruining the classic design. Problem is the internal slide rule bezel which requires a big seal around the whole bezel which needs to both keep the water out, and allow manual rotation.
@@TheBrendonian Thanks for the detailed explanation. Seems like SINN actually did that design change to raise WR for their 903 model, after buying the design from breitling. I recently had a discision with my friend about watches only looking the part but lacking the specs to go on "adventures" Panerais crown guard on their newest dress watch variants comes to mind. Finally i can appreciate the SINN 903 even more. A watch to consider for the collection =)
@@watch_a_mod354 the Sinn is a lovely alternative, but the second crown solution makes the slide rule impractical. Breitling would never consider that option as the functional slide rule is the defining feature of the watch.
@@TheBrendonian just like Breitling sticks to their impractical 30 WR. Making it a glorified dress watch. I wouldnt give Breitling that much credit. And this topic will only go in circles ;)
can you do a video on the japanese watch market/ why there are japan only releases for many watches? maybe has to do with their watch culture?
Ok ...Icon - check, excellent movement - check, cool colors - check, nothing quite like it - check. I will order it tomorrow!!
Is it woth it? I say NO! Better get the new Sinn 903 ST for a third of the price. Feels better, better quality with 200m waterresistance.
totally confused why there is no black dial for this size
Hey Teddy, as far as I know those are not Breitling’s old wing brand design, those are the AOPA wings commemorating the foundation heritage the Navitimer has.
I own a Navitimer Montbrillant in a smaller case size. I love the history, and it's an extremely versatile and classy piece. Recommend it.
I have a A41330 black with bracelet...pure class...yours?
@@meneurb A30030 silver. I have it on a steel mesh bracelet. Unfortunately, the slide rule bezel doesn't function well. It's jammed and only turns with excessive force - how is yours?
@@icychap mine bezel works fine... the watch is in excellent condition..i have some scratches from the use..i think ours watches is the sweet spot because is chronograph but a luxury elegant product, is not a sport one.. enjoy your watch and wear it.. cheers from Greece
Indo like their bracelet better than Rolex, but I'm more a oyster over jubilee. I like a cuff more than a bracelet just the way it feels. 😁👍
Thats a beautiful watch. If I manage to become a pilot, that might have to be my graduation present to myself. Too bad it's got such a juicy price tag 😅
how does it fit for small wrist (6") compare to the 3861 moonwatch? At the AD it seems the 41mm navitimer has a smaller lug to lug and fit even better than the moonwatch.
Such a beautiful watch man..
But cant justify spending money on it for some reason
Not sure about this, but I don't get chronographs generally nowadays. Features that nobody uses anymore that make the dial look overly busy.
Couldn’t agree more. I have a Daytona which I’ll keep because of what it is, but I have no interest in chronographs. I had a Navitimer but sold it.
Oof, I was thinking this would be my first big watch but 30m water resistance is putting me off. So you can't even wear it while washing your hands or in the rain?
Breitling are my new favourite brand at the moment I love everything they are doing BUT I do feel the are pricey for what they offer and Teddy touched on the same movements with Tudor which I find bizarre due to the price difference
A beautiful watch especially with enhanced imaging. But can you actually read it’s face at arms length?
I went to the Breitling store today and tried on this very same watch. It's stunning in person and I'm officially in love ❤
Teddy. I love your videos. Big fan. You're such a balanced and nuanced presenter with the correct amount of personality; that makes it easy to always watch you... Anyway, would kindly like to request some more videos on Brew and maybe another new affordable micro-brand. Also some Kevin O'leary duettos. Thank you!
For me the navi is a bit to busy and i don’t like most of them, but the new boutique edition white dial with navyblue strap and hands is amazing