@@majiko97 Bianca and Stratton were about have they match and Stratton post a video where she knocked Jade and voice over was from a show where a woman slaps another woman and says “BLACK BITCH” and fans was like Tiffany should be disqualified and Bicana should move on ahead. Reality, it wasn’t that deep.
"I'm not here to make accusations" he says after spending a minute making accusations. Fuck sakes. JADE AND BIANCA HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT. Why the fuck do you?
I love everybody saying Jade and Bianca have no problem with it, as if A. You talked to Jade and Bianca about it and B. You're implying if a Black woman doesn't have a problem with racism, then neither should I? 😂
Jade and Bianca don't speak for all black people bruh others are allowed to have problems with it. That's essentially the same as "I can't be racist I have a black friend" type shit.
Hard disagree. While you're completely on point that WWE is desperate for more legit heels (they basically only have Nia, Logan and the specter of Vince returning one day), making a heel connected to a bigotry angle, even if only abstractly, will just cause endless dumb arguing and divisiveness where it doesn't have to exist. Also, heels should be able to still be likeable. Like in a Jedi/Sith paradigm, there are things that fans can support about both without being tied to things like, you know... supporting genocide. Also also, you talk about Tiffany needing to flesh out her character but coming from that angle would only make her that much more one-dimensional. I'm watching WoW Women of Wrestling and they have a character Jessie Jones, a southern rassler who's there to 'make Wrestling great again' and take out all the luchdoras who don't deserve to be there etc etc. It's EMBARASSING.
Pro wrestling merely existing causes arguments and divisiveness. If you think WWE or AEW could book storylines that eliminate divisiveness, you'e in the wrong business, hoss. Besides, what's wrong with a healthy debate that has depth? That's why you're in this comment section, and I appreciate that.
@@ProWrestlingBits I love healthy debate, but considering most trending topics the IWC covers are controversies from Insta and Twitter, the debate that spawns from that is about as healthy as Ric Flair's liver. Also whether it's a good idea for Tiffany to go in the direction you suggest it not, I don't think you'd disagree that we're (unfortunately but irreparably) in the age of the ethics of the art being tied to the ethics of the artist. For example, GRRM got relentless heat for being a misogynist because of the fictional treatment of fictional women in his fictional Song of Ice and Fire universe. So if the made-up character Tiffany Stratton started dog whistling all the way from Stamford to Mar-a-Lago, people wouldn't look at that and think, "Wow, what a dastardly scamp. I do so hope these Melanated heroines can come out victorious in the end!", instead they'd think, "Why does WWE employ a racist? They must support her views! Vince is friends with Trump, you know!" and on and on and on and on...
i think it's only you that make a big deal out of it, imo (as gen z & outside US person) that was only meme, just for fun, sheesh can we have fun a little bit, there are a lot of shit going on in this world, also if that was a racism in your POV, so isn't that mean you also a racist by calling people that have different color than u "march mayonnaise", i enjoy your almost all youur content, but this one ain't it, but hey this is internet right, we can have a different opinion on something and respect it, so i respect your opinion but i'm humbly disagree with u in this one, keep the good work man
@Terri234 and you, a grown person got offended by a girl making fun of her friend? 😂 Is jade black? Yes. Is she a B* the heel would say yes. One has nothing to do with the other. Did she say all black people were? No. Someone calling their black bff black is not racist
I'm pretty sure that would not have been said, during the attitude era. I watched it during that time, and there was no such dialogue, even with the content being as "edgy" as it was.
Booker T n VKM both said the N word on TV. Black is a description, if she called Iyo a Japanese bitch, it's her nationality, n in the context of a heated fight. Fans working themselves into a shoot once again. Go save AEW or something 😂
Kind of a bad comparison since X/twitter is filled with far right weirdos, nazis and genuinely terrible people. Both sides are making a big deal out of this, she made a mistake that came off as racially insensitive. She apologized and she's till getting a push lol
So, make Tiffany Stratton... Lacey Evans????? Everyone knows how that's going to go. Also, how is everyone more offended than Jade and Bianca in this situation? At least publicly?
There are far more racist issues and comments and videos going out. There is no reason that this needs to be explained. They handled it behind the scenes. This is nothing but a slow day. Right Mr Mayo?
@@ProWrestlingBits lol comparing a sound byte on a IG post that was shared to decades if knowing how Vince is is really not a comparison at all lol. I love your channel but come on it's a bit of a stretch
"Race card" when Tiffany made it racial in the first place with that post lol stop gaslighting. "Race card" yet you're saying legit racist stuff like that last remark. Alright buddy
You’re missing one key difference between wrestling and other forms of entertainment. No one calls Al Pacino, Michael Corleone. Yet no one calls Tiffany Stratton, Jessica Woynilko. For some reason, people don’t separate wrestlers from their characters. One of the main reasons José Huertas González was found innocent of murdering Bruiser Brody. The jurors couldn’t separate the character of Bruiser Brody from Frank Goodish. They believed Frank was brawling psychopath who attacked everyone. The lack of separation from real life and character was the main reason The Un-Americans failed. None of the wrestlers wanted to deal with the heat in their real life. Basically it’s hard for wrestling to address real life social issues because unfortunately people would think. The “racism” portrayed by the wrestler would be who the person is.
This is a great point, but it would also require me to assume that every wrestling angle is going to result in a court case or a legal controversy, and most don't. Part of being an entertainer, whether it be an actor or a wrestler, is getting people to believe in your character. The most successful characters become real because there are elements of wrestlers' real lives in them. Plus, as I mentioned in the video, every great character has a redemption arc, so if the "Marjorie Tiffany Greene" character rang off the way I know it could, the redemption arc will wash away any ill will people would have for her in real life. The first thing people say about wrestling is the fact that it's fake. I really think they'd give WWE a lot of leeway in booking problematic characters.
@@ProWrestlingBits I was using the Brody murder as the extreme case. Look at what they did after the murder, they turned Gonzalez as a national hero for defending himself against a foreign menace. My point is that wrestling has a strange place in entertainment. Where some fans can’t distinguish between the character and the person. Some wrestlers don’t care but some do. Dutch Mantell had no problem playing Zeb Colter because he saw the money being made. Then you had the opposite in Lance Storm, Christian and Test in The Un-Americans angle. They didn’t like fans thinking that they hated the US IRL. The problem with playing a racist character for some wrestlers will be like you said. “The best characters are rooted in reality of the wrestler” is what we always hear. So if a wrestler pulls off a racist character. There will be a fair amount saying the wrestler is racist. Then you add your valid criticism of WWE’s handling of the women’s division. You can probably count on one hand the number of characters that don’t flip flop between face and heel. They probably are looking at Tiffany as face in the future
@@ProWrestlingBits I guess it would be Bianca, but I don’t think it would do her any good with how weird many wrestling fans are. My biggest issue is that Black wrestlers already aren’t featured prominently and now I have to see alt-right racist characters on top of that. It’s hard enough being a Black fan already.
Not to be a stiffy time simp, but if anyone wants to start up a firestorm over an IG story, I hope ya'll keep that same energy when someone talks about Newjack using strained race relations during the OJ trial to build heel heat, just sayin. But her as a nikki haley boomercon and Chelsea greene as the CEO of karens would cook in a tag team
I loved those promos from New Jack. WWE needs more of that type of energy from its Black talent. Not necessarily defending OJ, but speaking up for The Culture.
@@ProWrestlingBits a crybaby. You can’t shut up about this, omg a heel wrestler said something offensive…. Meanwhile you say racist things every video, using your logic I guess we should ask Forbes to fire you?
@@gerardsanders3225 that was the name of it. There were also “The Forgotten Sons”, who a bunch of angry vet bros, if I remember correctly. I think the gimmick fell apart for a few reasons.
Yes, it was amazing, then WWE got scared because of all the national attention it was getting and had Dutch cut a shoot promo. Ugh. They had such a good thing going in terms of storyline.
@@ProWrestlingBits that was about when I had just started watching again. It reminded me of the old Iron Sheik (“Iran- number 1!”) or Nikolai Volkoff bit, where he waved around the USSR flag, just in a different vein. It didn’t offend me or anything; it was just over the top silliness, which is what I thought wrestling kind of was (not to be confused with the over the top silliness that is AEW, bruv).
This could have-and should have-been the Lacy Evans character. Thing is, even if WWE presented her as a heel for being a conservative, certain territories would love her, too. We could learn a lot about the wrestling fanbase, and America in general, through this character.
@@ProWrestlingBits remember we the people got over. Lol Cody kinda comes off kinda conservative just with his red white and blue theme with his American nightmare. But nothing he talks about on the mic says conservative. Lol Otis could be conservative. Brock Lesnar farming, hunting animals? Conservative lol Lol member Leo Kruger with his party group, that be sum kinda lgtb gimmick right there today. Lol Oh, Bobby Lashley could be conservative, the whole proud of my army thing USA USA 🇺🇸 Hacksaw jim Dugan character, conservative. Daniel Bryan's save the trees and environment character but flys on planes every week, liberal...lol Ronda rousey another farmer, i think she sells grass fed meat, smells conservative. Not many wrestlers I can think of that might be liberal, Ali could be liberal 🤔 That guy who's with zalina, I can't believe I forgot his name, but he's got that tattoo that suppose to be for women empowerment, smells liberal. I'm sure backstage, in the crowd with the fans, there's all kinds of religion and politics, and they're all there together, wrestling brings them together, but once them politics come out, it's show time fist will be flying. Lol probably why WWE keeps politics and religion out of the stories. Speaking of show time, Sting comes off conservative. Jericho coughuhuhgconservative. Lol
It is a shame that WWE doesnt really have the guts to do controversial characters anymore. Im very left leaning, but I love povoocative stuff in media. I found the real americans faction really interesting. Barbie JBL would have a lot of material to work with. Like, she could say she's not racist because she has a black or latino wrestle in her faction.
WWE could capitalize on this situation as AEW capitalized on MJF-Juice Robinson’s “Roll of Quarters” promo last year. MJF took the time to educate people on Jewish culture after the backlash. Especially now that they are bringing Sexy Redd on NXT next week, it trashes Bianca-Jade talking about little Black girls and representation. So, let's make a story of Jade and Tiffany’s situation.
That would be a great opportunity as well, to use WWE's platform to inform people about politics, voting and even DEI issues. At the same time, WWE can drive this message home on camera by exploring all the elements of prejudice, divisiveness and politics. Good, bad and ugly.
@@ProWrestlingBits Exactly, instead of MJF letting others be outraged for him and assuming that Juice Robinson was being anti-semitic towards him. MJF used AEW’s platform to highlight and inform the audience about the Jewish people's continued fight for tolerance in America. WWE could have put Jade in that same position, but they failed. One of my favorite shows, A Different World, was created by someone accused of horrible acts. A Different World is still an entertaining show that is humorous but does not steer from topics such as domestic violence, attempted sexual assault, and racial discrimination for the audience to have a deeper conversation. Wrestling needs to use television time to inform people and not run away from these types of topics.
I didn't say she should be harassed. Besides, two things can be true. This is a bad predicament she has found herself in, no matter how this story got posted, and also it's an opportunity for WWE to finally go all the way with an alt-right storyline. Part of great analysis is looking at an angle from all sides, and that's why I'm able to see the good, bad and ugly that can result from this episode.
I appreciate you taking the time to respond. I'm a fan of the channel. You did spend the first 5 minutes of the video calling on the media to keep this 'controversy' going, accused the WWE of sweeping it under rug, called on Tiffany to make a statement, and said 'I'm not saying she's a bigot... I'm saying I don't know if she's a bigot"....you can't regularly call out dog whistles and then pretend that those statements aren't subtle cues for folks to harass her about this. You also painted anyone who defended her as a bigot 'simp'. I mean I know you're doing a bit and it's all about the clicks, but c'mon, man. This isn't Marjorie Taylor Greene or Gina Carano posting racist stuff and saying 'so what, you snowflakes'. She posted it and took it down almost immediately. Do you REALLY think a woman who is going to have to be in a ring Naomi, Bianca, and Jade Cargill purposefully posted that? And do think Bianca Belair would have gotten into the ring with her the NEXT DAY if she thought it was purposeful? Jade & Bianca are two of WWE's biggest stars, I don't think they'd be shy if they felt some kind of way about it. She screwed up and took it down, the end. She doesn't owe anyone but Jade an apology and an explanation.
I think Tiff can get herself over without any "character" like Marjorie whatever. She is skilled and charismatic enough that she is already getting cheers even against established stars.
Of course she is, but what's the fun in that? WWE gets lazy when it comes to booking layered female characters because they've fallen into the habit of marketing their women as sex symbols in addition to characters. That's all well and good, get it how you live, but when given the chance, countless women have been phenomenal with character work. That's what WWE needs more of if it's going to be on Netflix and try to appeal to a broad audience that wants to relate.
You're wrong here. WWE didn't respond to whatever was posted, they responded to the fake news where the wrestling "media" falsely claimed they were mad at her. I like your channel except for the race baiting and constant bad political takes.
Black people: it’s not racist guys chill WWE: there is nothing there Black people: wait hold on it is racist please address it 🙄🙄 What’s wrong with us 🤦🏾♂️
the problem is, mfs that don’t run shit always demanding an explanation. all do respect, who tf is you? lmao or me, or anybody who not cutting checks at wwe.
All hell broke loose over such a minor thing. I feel like at the end of the day, people are beeging amongst each other. Not really the wrestlers. These are 2 great wrestlers that can sell an amazing fued. Now let the simps at both side fight ,but let's not act like it's people fighting for the sake of it.
Mind you there was one conservative who told another conservative she would not vote for him because he's "an Indian"... We can't nothing slightly close to that?
Yeah, and Vivek actually handled that like a champ. He didn’t have snowflake meltdown and try to shout her down like a raging lunatic. In fact, they had a great discussion in which she went into detail about why she felt that way which lead to an entertaining debate.i suggest you watch the full interview.
If Jade and Bianca have no issue with it, and have said so publicly, and they're already far bigger stars than Tiffany is so far, THEN WHY DOES FRAGILE BOI ALFRED? He's literally being fucking racist, and telling other black people who aren't offended by it to be offended by it.
The only place you go wrong in your analysis is your assumption that Republicans and Republican-like characters would naturally be considered as heels. Considering the current state of our country, that’s a gimmick that would definitely go over, yes, but as a babyface.
I'm fully aware that a conservative character would be a babyface in some markets, and that's perfectly fine. If the character was consistent everywhere and just so happened to get a babyface reaction from people who related to them, then it would create very unique heat. Like Bret Hart in 1997 or even Drew McIntyre, who is a great heel but will be the biggest babyface in Scotland.
Tiffany didn't do nothing wrong! There was no heat backstage! But a Tiffany vs Jade fued would be excellent going to SummerSlam. The IWC make up tons of bullshit against wrestlers that make money for wrestling while their favourites e.g. Lyra, Roxanne, the Young Bucks can't draw a f'n dime.
@Terri234 I sure as hell would, hell jade could post a vid saying "cr*cker b*tch" (only censoring so the comment doesn't get deleted) and I'd think it's hilarious and not an issue. The only scenario I think would be egriegous is if Tiffany had posted a racial slur.
@Terri234I don't see someone saying "*insert race here*" bitch to be racist. The race is being used to describe "the bitch". If someone called me a "hispanic bitch" I wouldn't think "OH MY GOD A RACIST!" I mean I have seen numerous people of the SAME race say that thing to each other!
Thank you for shedding more light on this topic. I feel it was very interesting how the pro wrestling media seemed to sweep this story under the rug. They have no problem having discussions about anything else but the second race might be involved it gets conveniently ignored. I don't think Tiffany should be canceled or fired however I do feel she made a horrible mistake. It was definitely offensive and she removed the IG story as a result. And no I don't need to hear about the Attitude Era as an excuse for a racist post. If it was said back then it would have been wrong just as its wrong today. I definitely would love to hear from WWE at a press conference concerning this. But I highly doubt anyone will ask about it. Smh.
It's crazy that so many people are trying to ignore this issue because they feel like they got the answer they wanted. Thing is, WWE didn't give an answer at all. They just made an empty statement and expected people to move on. I have follow-up; questions though.
Isn't Tiffany Stratton's character initially Daddy's Little Princess, who loves to spend her parent's money on things that makes her beautiful? Cause that's what I'm getting from her.
Yeah, and she continues to evolve. Funny thing is, most spoiled yt women become Trump Supporters. I don't know that to be fact, but that sounds like it has to be true.
@@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849 You want to know what the funniest part is, that no matter how you perceived what she said, there's going to be guy's black, white, or what ever have you that are going to defend what ever she says or does based on their attraction to her, kind of like when pornographer Alexis Texas wasn't doing interracial scenes but black guy still watched her content and when she started doing interracial scenes some white guys I know declared her a "trader" to put it in a nicer way and while I agree with you that most people don't think about race all day, based on geographic location and skin color a large group of people never have to, I say skin color because there is a such thing as same race racism, but personally what I've never understood in my life is why white people stair at me in public places and restaurants, it's true I'm a black man and am a phenomenal dresser and quite handsome but I've never asked any of them to pay for my meals or buy my groceries or clothes and it's not just a southern thing because I'm a truck driver and I've experienced this all across America, plz give me your input on this
WWE does not need to make alt right heel characters that only u overly political freaks will get a kick out of. Those are out of touch/ outdated gimmicks. Heels should have singular motivations and be ruthless without resulting to cheap heat
I have a theory, but I don’t know how everybody gonna feel about it! What if it was WWE idea for her to post it? But I didn’t think it would cause controversy! They thought it would just be a way to get Tiffany booed!
This is more about logistics than semantics but... I feel like "Black" is two blanketed for the various skin tones/shades. Tawny, Brown, and Caramel are 3 different shades and neither of them are Black.
They should 1000% turn her into MAGA Barbie. She's getting cheered as heel. That's never good, IMO. Besides Nia there aren't any legit female heels that actually get heat. They do know their job is to get the crowd to boo?
Your idea for Tiffany is very interesting. IMO, wrestling is at its best when it's reflecting real-life issues and pushing buttons. But today, the FANS seem to be against this approach more than the company. It's honestly bizarre.
Completely agree. I think WWE will receive a wake-up call from Netflix viewership if their characters aren't more three-dimensional. WWE is going to get a lot of Drive-by viewership from people wanting to see what the fuss is about. If they don't see real characters they can relate to, for better or worse, then Stranger Things it is.
The answer to your question has to do with the current head Booker of the WWE: triple H. If Booker T woulda won at WrestleMania 19, then you could possibly get away with it. Because Booker lost, it showed and shows that the bad guys not only win, but thrive in WWE.
If JBL was built as a mega anti-Latino conservative heel who literally WON the rivalry against the most popular Latino wrestler in history in the past, I don’t think it’s impossible for Tiffany to develop into such a character herself early into her stardom. If my memory serves right, Jade mentioned in an interview with Mark Henry how she “wouldn’t be in the wrestling business for long” to paraphrase (I’m guessing around 2-4 years). It’s more likely Tiffany is going to be a lifer in wrestling, making it even more appealing (in terms of business & storytelling) to give her character a more conservative touch. If both are to have a bonafide feud in the future (hopefully later than sooner, and for the WWE championship) then it would be pretty hysterical to see Tiffany get the comeuppance on Jade, paralleling the nuclear heat JBL got for the majority of 2004-05.
So many of u where this mask and feel brave to be racist no fear of the big bad black man fuckin there wives and sisters and moms no getting ur ass beat soulful or unalived riddles in hollow tips I love the cartoon
Honestly if some characters where allowed to attack race if done right could honestly give feuds a lot of extra edge and heat but it should never be the main focus or overdone
WWE was right to sweep this under rug this was clearly not supposed to be taken seriously and Tiffany Stratton was playing a character. Plus I call bulls**t on Dave Meltzer claim that if she wasn't a big star she would be fired, like come on this was clearly not supposed to mean anything and is an honest overreaction and no one should be fired over something as idiotic as this.
Brother Alfred, I agree WWE should lean heavily into the far right politics in some of their characters. Reason being, when forced to see how terrible some of these people truly are, some might wake up and change. Only reason why it won't work is because like you said sponsors and some in management hold those beliefs.
Yeah the sponsors definitely muddy those waters. I get why WWE is so quick to pull politically motivated characters, especially when they inevitable go viral in political circles. But in an alternate universe, WWE taps into a whole new audience by booking these types of angles. Pro wrestling and politics are far more similar than anybody gives them credit for. It's a match made in heaven, and WWE keeping them apart feels like Romeo and Juliet.
It was in bad taste and stupid but there was no malice behind it. She just posted it without thinking if it will offend people. It's really not that deep. If Jade was offended by it, you would have heard about it in the reports. If she continuously does shit like this on her social media, then it will be a cause for concern.
I dude posting hear for views and all that racist dumb shit he says is why we’re all on these comments see he’s a lil RUclipsr compared to Tiffany fuckin Stratton in wwe not to be disrespectful to him 😂
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WWE has a history of leaning into controversy like this. Remember the Shelton and Trish opening promo? If Vince was in charge I could see them leaning into it like you said, but I don't HHH going that far. Bottom line: Tiffany's comment was at worst idiotic but not racist and the re-re's of social media need to get a life
@finalfantasy1912 I'm not saying for me it was idiotic. Allow me to clarify: The worst you can call it was idiotic. Me personally I'm with you it was part of the storyline. The RE-RE's on the other hand will take it much further than it actually has to go.
I find it disconcerting that people are so quick to surrender free speech to bigots. I'm center-left, but I don't see the value in rampant censorship, other than to engender the type of resentment that gets people like Trump fuel in the first place. The world is better when everyone is speaking to their convictions freely. Marketplace of ideas and all that.
I would like to see the day when all people will stop using ignorant words to refer to another even in a causal conversation. Ignorant words are not supposed to be part of anyone's culture. Ignorance is being relived daily.
@@ProWrestlingBits You sure about that? Because what you were saying, kinda goes against that and said that you mad about it but yet you don’t think she’s racist do you think anyone who defense is? Let’s have this conversation, dude.
As usual, only the racists don’t see anything wrong with what she posted. Unfortunately for Stratton, her poor decision cost her being in the finals of the queen of the ring tournament, thus derailing the storyline set for her. Ironically, she was eliminated by a black woman. Which now puts her at the back of the line, really they’re gonna minimize any appearance of her to negate the negative impact her actions has caused. Bottom line, she felt more of the spotlight and media appearances, and opportunities belonged to her rather than Jade. Basically hating. WWE has so much invested in Jade that it was enough to take away Stratton’s opportunity. Now she’ll be sitting in catering, while someone else takes her spot in the finals.
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All of this coming from the same guy who does “March Mayonnaise” for white wrestlers…
Damn. Is that true?
Yes he's actually EXTREMELY low key anti white.
Yeah that was hilarious. CONGRATS AJ STYLES!
@@AnneHathawayRules "anti white" lmao
@@alexiscool__ He is. But it's ok because I'm pro w, so it evens out.
Just so we are clear here, the person who should be offended, isn’t.
So what's the controversy about?
@@majiko97 Bianca and Stratton were about have they match and Stratton post a video where she knocked Jade and voice over was from a show where a woman slaps another woman and says “BLACK BITCH” and fans was like Tiffany should be disqualified and Bicana should move on ahead. Reality, it wasn’t that deep.
How do we know this to be true?
@@shayr.3412 what?
How do you know that Jade was not offended?
"I'm not here to make accusations" he says after spending a minute making accusations. Fuck sakes. JADE AND BIANCA HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT. Why the fuck do you?
I love everybody saying Jade and Bianca have no problem with it, as if
A. You talked to Jade and Bianca about it and
B. You're implying if a Black woman doesn't have a problem with racism, then neither should I? 😂
Jade and Bianca don't speak for all black people bruh others are allowed to have problems with it. That's essentially the same as "I can't be racist I have a black friend" type shit.
Hard disagree. While you're completely on point that WWE is desperate for more legit heels (they basically only have Nia, Logan and the specter of Vince returning one day), making a heel connected to a bigotry angle, even if only abstractly, will just cause endless dumb arguing and divisiveness where it doesn't have to exist.
Also, heels should be able to still be likeable. Like in a Jedi/Sith paradigm, there are things that fans can support about both without being tied to things like, you know... supporting genocide.
Also also, you talk about Tiffany needing to flesh out her character but coming from that angle would only make her that much more one-dimensional. I'm watching WoW Women of Wrestling and they have a character Jessie Jones, a southern rassler who's there to 'make Wrestling great again' and take out all the luchdoras who don't deserve to be there etc etc. It's EMBARASSING.
Pro wrestling merely existing causes arguments and divisiveness. If you think WWE or AEW could book storylines that eliminate divisiveness, you'e in the wrong business, hoss. Besides, what's wrong with a healthy debate that has depth? That's why you're in this comment section, and I appreciate that.
@@ProWrestlingBits I love healthy debate, but considering most trending topics the IWC covers are controversies from Insta and Twitter, the debate that spawns from that is about as healthy as Ric Flair's liver.
Also whether it's a good idea for Tiffany to go in the direction you suggest it not, I don't think you'd disagree that we're (unfortunately but irreparably) in the age of the ethics of the art being tied to the ethics of the artist.
For example, GRRM got relentless heat for being a misogynist because of the fictional treatment of fictional women in his fictional Song of Ice and Fire universe.
So if the made-up character Tiffany Stratton started dog whistling all the way from Stamford to Mar-a-Lago, people wouldn't look at that and think, "Wow, what a dastardly scamp. I do so hope these Melanated heroines can come out victorious in the end!", instead they'd think, "Why does WWE employ a racist? They must support her views! Vince is friends with Trump, you know!" and on and on and on and on...
ok Mr March Mayonnaise
CONGRATS AJ STYLES! Straight outta the Kewpie Bracket
i think it's only you that make a big deal out of it, imo (as gen z & outside US person) that was only meme, just for fun, sheesh can we have fun a little bit, there are a lot of shit going on in this world, also if that was a racism in your POV, so isn't that mean you also a racist by calling people that have different color than u "march mayonnaise", i enjoy your almost all youur content, but this one ain't it, but hey this is internet right, we can have a different opinion on something and respect it, so i respect your opinion but i'm humbly disagree with u in this one, keep the good work man
u talk too much. i just wanted to know what was said
The heel made fun of the face and you all cry. Seriously?
"We want the attitude era back but not if a internet joke can offend us"
@Terri234 and you, a grown person got offended by a girl making fun of her friend? 😂
Is jade black? Yes.
Is she a B* the heel would say yes. One has nothing to do with the other. Did she say all black people were? No.
Someone calling their black bff black is not racist
I'm pretty sure that would not have been said, during the attitude era. I watched it during that time, and there was no such dialogue, even with the content being as "edgy" as it was.
Booker T n VKM both said the N word on TV. Black is a description, if she called Iyo a Japanese bitch, it's her nationality, n in the context of a heated fight. Fans working themselves into a shoot once again. Go save AEW or something 😂
@@shayr.3412yes there were. Your missing the point.
@Terri234yeah the late 90s was a hell of a lot better than the over sensitive, social media obsessed world of today.
IG is turning into Twitter 2.0 now
Kind of a bad comparison since X/twitter is filled with far right weirdos, nazis and genuinely terrible people. Both sides are making a big deal out of this, she made a mistake that came off as racially insensitive. She apologized and she's till getting a push lol
Imagine if Tweets disappeared after 24 hours like IG Stories. Twitter would be shut down within 24 hours.
So, make Tiffany Stratton... Lacey Evans?????
Everyone knows how that's going to go.
Also, how is everyone more offended than Jade and Bianca in this situation? At least publicly?
There are far more racist issues and comments and videos going out. There is no reason that this needs to be explained. They handled it behind the scenes. This is nothing but a slow day. Right Mr Mayo?
Lol if "they handled it behind the scenes" was a valid excuse, Vince McMahon would still be around. Weird case and all.
@@ProWrestlingBits lol comparing a sound byte on a IG post that was shared to decades if knowing how Vince is is really not a comparison at all lol. I love your channel but come on it's a bit of a stretch
@@ProWrestlingBitsdamn i didn't knew sex trafficking and an ig story were the same thing. I hope she's going to jail 🤯
this guy is pulling the race card like he got excalibur or some shit
just dont start crying "i cant breathe" when you get the backlash
"Race card" when Tiffany made it racial in the first place with that post lol stop gaslighting. "Race card" yet you're saying legit racist stuff like that last remark. Alright buddy
You’re missing one key difference between wrestling and other forms of entertainment. No one calls Al Pacino, Michael Corleone. Yet no one calls Tiffany Stratton, Jessica Woynilko. For some reason, people don’t separate wrestlers from their characters. One of the main reasons José Huertas González was found innocent of murdering Bruiser Brody. The jurors couldn’t separate the character of Bruiser Brody from Frank Goodish. They believed Frank was brawling psychopath who attacked everyone. The lack of separation from real life and character was the main reason The Un-Americans failed. None of the wrestlers wanted to deal with the heat in their real life. Basically it’s hard for wrestling to address real life social issues because unfortunately people would think. The “racism” portrayed by the wrestler would be who the person is.
This is a great point, but it would also require me to assume that every wrestling angle is going to result in a court case or a legal controversy, and most don't. Part of being an entertainer, whether it be an actor or a wrestler, is getting people to believe in your character. The most successful characters become real because there are elements of wrestlers' real lives in them. Plus, as I mentioned in the video, every great character has a redemption arc, so if the "Marjorie Tiffany Greene" character rang off the way I know it could, the redemption arc will wash away any ill will people would have for her in real life. The first thing people say about wrestling is the fact that it's fake. I really think they'd give WWE a lot of leeway in booking problematic characters.
@@ProWrestlingBits I was using the Brody murder as the extreme case. Look at what they did after the murder, they turned Gonzalez as a national hero for defending himself against a foreign menace. My point is that wrestling has a strange place in entertainment. Where some fans can’t distinguish between the character and the person. Some wrestlers don’t care but some do. Dutch Mantell had no problem playing Zeb Colter because he saw the money being made. Then you had the opposite in Lance Storm, Christian and Test in The Un-Americans angle. They didn’t like fans thinking that they hated the US IRL. The problem with playing a racist character for some wrestlers will be like you said. “The best characters are rooted in reality of the wrestler” is what we always hear. So if a wrestler pulls off a racist character. There will be a fair amount saying the wrestler is racist. Then you add your valid criticism of WWE’s handling of the women’s division. You can probably count on one hand the number of characters that don’t flip flop between face and heel. They probably are looking at Tiffany as face in the future
This wasn't racist some people exaggerated way too much
I don’t want to see any racist characters in WWE. There aren’t enough Black wrestlers being pushed for it to balance out.
Who do you think would be pushed as the babyface against a racist character?
@@ProWrestlingBits I guess it would be Bianca, but I don’t think it would do her any good with how weird many wrestling fans are. My biggest issue is that Black wrestlers already aren’t featured prominently and now I have to see alt-right racist characters on top of that. It’s hard enough being a Black fan already.
@@ProWrestlingBits new day losing constantly til lashley nash 93s him
Not to be a stiffy time simp, but if anyone wants to start up a firestorm over an IG story, I hope ya'll keep that same energy when someone talks about Newjack using strained race relations during the OJ trial to build heel heat, just sayin. But her as a nikki haley boomercon and Chelsea greene as the CEO of karens would cook in a tag team
I loved those promos from New Jack. WWE needs more of that type of energy from its Black talent. Not necessarily defending OJ, but speaking up for The Culture.
My guy, you do ‘March Mayonnaise’. Chill.
Congrats to AJ Styles! Who do you think will win next year?
This would've been more impactful if Alfred wasn't so hypocritical.
I know you are but what am I?
@@ProWrestlingBits a crybaby. You can’t shut up about this, omg a heel wrestler said something offensive…. Meanwhile you say racist things every video, using your logic I guess we should ask Forbes to fire you?
Didn’t they do a faction that Dutch Mantell was a part of that was based on the Tea Party, and got dropped?
If I remember correctly, Fox got pissy and wE tHe PeOpLe got pulled.
@@gerardsanders3225 that was the name of it. There were also “The Forgotten Sons”, who a bunch of angry vet bros, if I remember correctly. I think the gimmick fell apart for a few reasons.
Yes, it was amazing, then WWE got scared because of all the national attention it was getting and had Dutch cut a shoot promo. Ugh. They had such a good thing going in terms of storyline.
@@ProWrestlingBits that was about when I had just started watching again. It reminded me of the old Iron Sheik (“Iran- number 1!”) or Nikolai Volkoff bit, where he waved around the USSR flag, just in a different vein. It didn’t offend me or anything; it was just over the top silliness, which is what I thought wrestling kind of was (not to be confused with the over the top silliness that is AEW, bruv).
Wasn't it the South African military apartheid thing?
This is coming from the guy I've seen make so many anti white jabs. Get over it dude, nobody cares.
You cared enough to watch and comment about this, so are you calling yourself a nobody?
@@ProWrestlingBits The people who care are nobodies, hence why you made a video about it.
@@ProWrestlingBits oh I didn't watch it. I just wanted to comment on a serial racist person's video.
Wow, she comes out with a US flag, lol every thing lacy was suppose to be. 😂
This could have-and should have-been the Lacy Evans character. Thing is, even if WWE presented her as a heel for being a conservative, certain territories would love her, too. We could learn a lot about the wrestling fanbase, and America in general, through this character.
@@ProWrestlingBits
remember we the people got over. Lol
Cody kinda comes off kinda conservative just with his red white and blue theme with his American nightmare.
But nothing he talks about on the mic says conservative.
Lol Otis could be conservative.
Brock Lesnar farming, hunting animals? Conservative lol
Lol member Leo Kruger with his party group, that be sum kinda lgtb gimmick right there today. Lol
Oh, Bobby Lashley could be conservative, the whole proud of my army thing USA USA 🇺🇸
Hacksaw jim Dugan character, conservative.
Daniel Bryan's save the trees and environment character but flys on planes every week, liberal...lol
Ronda rousey another farmer, i think she sells grass fed meat, smells conservative.
Not many wrestlers I can think of that might be liberal, Ali could be liberal 🤔
That guy who's with zalina, I can't believe I forgot his name, but he's got that tattoo that suppose to be for women empowerment, smells liberal.
I'm sure backstage, in the crowd with the fans, there's all kinds of religion and politics, and they're all there together, wrestling brings them together, but once them politics come out, it's show time fist will be flying. Lol probably why WWE keeps politics and religion out of the stories.
Speaking of show time, Sting comes off conservative.
Jericho coughuhuhgconservative. Lol
The Black Wrestling Media. Dude its you Ross and Akoma Mikey. Shoutout to Ross he's the man
Shouts to Prince Ross, lol.
Judging by your use of the word "Dude," you clearly don't follow Black Wrestling Media Bruh.
An Alt right character in wrestling would not be a heel.
It is a shame that WWE doesnt really have the guts to do controversial characters anymore. Im very left leaning, but I love povoocative stuff in media. I found the real americans faction really interesting. Barbie JBL would have a lot of material to work with. Like, she could say she's not racist because she has a black or latino wrestle in her faction.
You and my both my brother
NO she is not racist,WWE and triple H is right
Triple H is definitely a racist tho
WWE could capitalize on this situation as AEW capitalized on MJF-Juice Robinson’s “Roll of Quarters” promo last year. MJF took the time to educate people on Jewish culture after the backlash. Especially now that they are bringing Sexy Redd on NXT next week, it trashes Bianca-Jade talking about little Black girls and representation. So, let's make a story of Jade and Tiffany’s situation.
Sorry I can talk about what I can talk about
That would be a great opportunity as well, to use WWE's platform to inform people about politics, voting and even DEI issues. At the same time, WWE can drive this message home on camera by exploring all the elements of prejudice, divisiveness and politics. Good, bad and ugly.
Wait, how does Sexyy Redd on NXT 'trash' the other Superstar's message about representation? Another Black girl on the show is... the point. No?
@@ProWrestlingBits Exactly, instead of MJF letting others be outraged for him and assuming that Juice Robinson was being anti-semitic towards him. MJF used AEW’s platform to highlight and inform the audience about the Jewish people's continued fight for tolerance in America. WWE could have put Jade in that same position, but they failed. One of my favorite shows, A Different World, was created by someone accused of horrible acts. A Different World is still an entertaining show that is humorous but does not steer from topics such as domestic violence, attempted sexual assault, and racial discrimination for the audience to have a deeper conversation. Wrestling needs to use television time to inform people and not run away from these types of topics.
@@joshwent Yes, a Black Woman that offers nothing but mumble rap and how Black Women have nothing to offer to society but cheap sex.
Me as a black person I’m just giving a warning she should of know better, but I don’t think she racist.
So, she should be harassed about an IG post...but she should also go all in and 'act' racist on TV? 🙄
I didn't say she should be harassed. Besides, two things can be true. This is a bad predicament she has found herself in, no matter how this story got posted, and also it's an opportunity for WWE to finally go all the way with an alt-right storyline. Part of great analysis is looking at an angle from all sides, and that's why I'm able to see the good, bad and ugly that can result from this episode.
I appreciate you taking the time to respond. I'm a fan of the channel.
You did spend the first 5 minutes of the video calling on the media to keep this 'controversy' going, accused the WWE of sweeping it under rug, called on Tiffany to make a statement, and said 'I'm not saying she's a bigot... I'm saying I don't know if she's a bigot"....you can't regularly call out dog whistles and then pretend that those statements aren't subtle cues for folks to harass her about this.
You also painted anyone who defended her as a bigot 'simp'. I mean I know you're doing a bit and it's all about the clicks, but c'mon, man.
This isn't Marjorie Taylor Greene or Gina Carano posting racist stuff and saying 'so what, you snowflakes'. She posted it and took it down almost immediately.
Do you REALLY think a woman who is going to have to be in a ring Naomi, Bianca, and Jade Cargill purposefully posted that? And do think Bianca Belair would have gotten into the ring with her the NEXT DAY if she thought it was purposeful? Jade & Bianca are two of WWE's biggest stars, I don't think they'd be shy if they felt some kind of way about it.
She screwed up and took it down, the end. She doesn't owe anyone but Jade an apology and an explanation.
I think Tiff can get herself over without any "character" like Marjorie whatever. She is skilled and charismatic enough that she is already getting cheers even against established stars.
Of course she is, but what's the fun in that? WWE gets lazy when it comes to booking layered female characters because they've fallen into the habit of marketing their women as sex symbols in addition to characters. That's all well and good, get it how you live, but when given the chance, countless women have been phenomenal with character work. That's what WWE needs more of if it's going to be on Netflix and try to appeal to a broad audience that wants to relate.
You're wrong here. WWE didn't respond to whatever was posted, they responded to the fake news where the wrestling "media" falsely claimed they were mad at her.
I like your channel except for the race baiting and constant bad political takes.
Black people: it’s not racist guys chill
WWE: there is nothing there
Black people: wait hold on it is racist please address it 🙄🙄
What’s wrong with us 🤦🏾♂️
Crazy. It's almost like different BLK ppl can have different opinions about things. lol Ur a clown.
Omg, you did the voices for WWE AND Black People?! What a talent. Eddie Murphy has entered the group chat.
Hercules! Hercules! Hercules!
There is a reason the Bible calls us lost sheep
@@TorbenFewell thank God for His saving Grace through Jesus Christ 🙌
the problem is, mfs that don’t run shit always demanding an explanation. all do respect, who tf is you? lmao or me, or anybody who not cutting checks at wwe.
Get a life.
Your out your mind. Your trying to set her up for a down spiral
😂😂😂😂😂
All hell broke loose over such a minor thing. I feel like at the end of the day, people are beeging amongst each other. Not really the wrestlers. These are 2 great wrestlers that can sell an amazing fued.
Now let the simps at both side fight ,but let's not act like it's people fighting for the sake of it.
All hell breaking loose over a minor thing is what social media is here for.
Mind you there was one conservative who told another conservative she would not vote for him because he's "an Indian"... We can't nothing slightly close to that?
Facts!
Yeah, and Vivek actually handled that like a champ. He didn’t have snowflake meltdown and try to shout her down like a raging lunatic. In fact, they had a great discussion in which she went into detail about why she felt that way which lead to an entertaining debate.i suggest you watch the full interview.
Yet how many people vote for people because of their skin color is the same? It’s simple facts.
It’s adorable watching a bunch of yt guys telling black folks what is racist. God bless Murica amirite
Hahaha right?
If Jade and Bianca have no issue with it, and have said so publicly, and they're already far bigger stars than Tiffany is so far, THEN WHY DOES FRAGILE BOI ALFRED? He's literally being fucking racist, and telling other black people who aren't offended by it to be offended by it.
Yeah because only black people know what racism is… smh
Exactly
😂 I just know if it was reverse and she called her a white bitch, nobody would care and I think that's fair.
The only place you go wrong in your analysis is your assumption that Republicans and Republican-like characters would naturally be considered as heels.
Considering the current state of our country, that’s a gimmick that would definitely go over, yes, but as a babyface.
I'm fully aware that a conservative character would be a babyface in some markets, and that's perfectly fine. If the character was consistent everywhere and just so happened to get a babyface reaction from people who related to them, then it would create very unique heat. Like Bret Hart in 1997 or even Drew McIntyre, who is a great heel but will be the biggest babyface in Scotland.
Tiffany didn't do nothing wrong! There was no heat backstage! But a Tiffany vs Jade fued would be excellent going to SummerSlam.
The IWC make up tons of bullshit against wrestlers that make money for wrestling while their favourites e.g. Lyra, Roxanne, the Young Bucks can't draw a f'n dime.
@Terri234I would.
@Terri234 I sure as hell would, hell jade could post a vid saying "cr*cker b*tch" (only censoring so the comment doesn't get deleted) and I'd think it's hilarious and not an issue. The only scenario I think would be egriegous is if Tiffany had posted a racial slur.
@Terri234 not everyone is a sensitive little girl
@Terri234I don't see someone saying "*insert race here*" bitch to be racist. The race is being used to describe "the bitch". If someone called me a "hispanic bitch" I wouldn't think "OH MY GOD A RACIST!" I mean I have seen numerous people of the SAME race say that thing to each other!
@Terri234 Yes I would. I have seen numerous people of the same race say stuff like that.
Thank you for shedding more light on this topic. I feel it was very interesting how the pro wrestling media seemed to sweep this story under the rug. They have no problem having discussions about anything else but the second race might be involved it gets conveniently ignored. I don't think Tiffany should be canceled or fired however I do feel she made a horrible mistake. It was definitely offensive and she removed the IG story as a result. And no I don't need to hear about the Attitude Era as an excuse for a racist post. If it was said back then it would have been wrong just as its wrong today. I definitely would love to hear from WWE at a press conference concerning this. But I highly doubt anyone will ask about it. Smh.
It's crazy that so many people are trying to ignore this issue because they feel like they got the answer they wanted. Thing is, WWE didn't give an answer at all. They just made an empty statement and expected people to move on. I have follow-up; questions though.
I didn't even hear about it. So much for backlash.
Isn't Tiffany Stratton's character initially Daddy's Little Princess, who loves to spend her parent's money on things that makes her beautiful? Cause that's what I'm getting from her.
She’s the buff Barbie
Yeah, and she continues to evolve. Funny thing is, most spoiled yt women become Trump Supporters. I don't know that to be fact, but that sounds like it has to be true.
Excellent video
Thank you!
I have a friend who is black and he said he had no problem with it! It’s called heel heat, dude
Oh, that settles it then. What's his name in case we need verification. 😂
It's funny how there's always only one black friend 🤣
@@user-ng8nn1xd2m I was just trying to say not all black people care! Most people white or black don’t spent all day thinking about race!
@@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849 You want to know what the funniest part is, that no matter how you perceived what she said, there's going to be guy's black, white, or what ever have you that are going to defend what ever she says or does based on their attraction to her, kind of like when pornographer Alexis Texas wasn't doing interracial scenes but black guy still watched her content and when she started doing interracial scenes some white guys I know declared her a "trader" to put it in a nicer way and while I agree with you that most people don't think about race all day, based on geographic location and skin color a large group of people never have to, I say skin color because there is a such thing as same race racism, but personally what I've never understood in my life is why white people stair at me in public places and restaurants, it's true I'm a black man and am a phenomenal dresser and quite handsome but I've never asked any of them to pay for my meals or buy my groceries or clothes and it's not just a southern thing because I'm a truck driver and I've experienced this all across America, plz give me your input on this
WWE does not need to make alt right heel characters that only u overly political freaks will get a kick out of. Those are out of touch/ outdated gimmicks. Heels should have singular motivations and be ruthless without resulting to cheap heat
As a nigga myself I thought it was interesting if Tiffy went the conservative racist route route it would be something new
I mean, nobody was surprised about Vince McMahon!
you cant work this into a gimmick cus we still got crazies who will actually think she believe these things. This will be crazy move
Crazy good.
Jack swagger “we the people” phase was the most over he ever was and there was a reason.
The country is too soft! I mean Jade in AEW called herself that!
I have a theory, but I don’t know how everybody gonna feel about it! What if it was WWE idea for her to post it? But I didn’t think it would cause controversy! They thought it would just be a way to get Tiffany booed!
Pink fur got Darby dressing like Cam
Cam'Ron should sue.
This is more about logistics than semantics but...
I feel like "Black" is two blanketed for the various skin tones/shades.
Tawny, Brown, and Caramel are 3 different shades and neither of them are Black.
Lol is this you or the ayahuasca talking?
Wht the fuck are u even talking about
@@ProWrestlingBitsBest reply! 😂
Triple H not hating on a white wrestler getting heat on a black wrestler. Take notes LA Knight
They should 1000% turn her into MAGA Barbie. She's getting cheered as heel. That's never good, IMO. Besides Nia there aren't any legit female heels that actually get heat. They do know their job is to get the crowd to boo?
MAGA BARBIE
Uncle Howdy is behind Tiffany's IG 😂
Yooooo
Diddy didnt do anything wrong. He was just sampling Ike Turner.
BRUH
Dear God! It's like we are in an alternate dimension in the WWE
I agree
Cant wait for Jade Cargill vs Tiffany Stratton.
Your idea for Tiffany is very interesting. IMO, wrestling is at its best when it's reflecting real-life issues and pushing buttons. But today, the FANS seem to be against this approach more than the company. It's honestly bizarre.
Completely agree. I think WWE will receive a wake-up call from Netflix viewership if their characters aren't more three-dimensional. WWE is going to get a lot of Drive-by viewership from people wanting to see what the fuss is about. If they don't see real characters they can relate to, for better or worse, then Stranger Things it is.
The answer to your question has to do with the current head Booker of the WWE: triple H. If Booker T woulda won at WrestleMania 19, then you could possibly get away with it. Because Booker lost, it showed and shows that the bad guys not only win, but thrive in WWE.
If JBL was built as a mega anti-Latino conservative heel who literally WON the rivalry against the most popular Latino wrestler in history in the past, I don’t think it’s impossible for Tiffany to develop into such a character herself early into her stardom.
If my memory serves right, Jade mentioned in an interview with Mark Henry how she “wouldn’t be in the wrestling business for long” to paraphrase (I’m guessing around 2-4 years). It’s more likely Tiffany is going to be a lifer in wrestling, making it even more appealing (in terms of business & storytelling) to give her character a more conservative touch. If both are to have a bonafide feud in the future (hopefully later than sooner, and for the WWE championship) then it would be pretty hysterical to see Tiffany get the comeuppance on Jade, paralleling the nuclear heat JBL got for the majority of 2004-05.
lol at sling blade 😂
DAVE CHILDERS 🤣🤣🤣
I love Tiffy more now!
So many of u where this mask and feel brave to be racist no fear of the big bad black man fuckin there wives and sisters and moms no getting ur ass beat soulful or unalived riddles in hollow tips I love the cartoon
Wear
Riddled
love the work you’re doing brother
No one cares
Don't talk about my comment section like that, show some respect haha
Honestly if some characters where allowed to attack race if done right could honestly give feuds a lot of extra edge and heat but it should never be the main focus or overdone
The question that's still not answered:
*"If she's not racist, why did she retweet it?"*
Dude you sound like Tony Khan with all your complaining and crying
As a racist, that was not okay
Well then lol
WWE was right to sweep this under rug this was clearly not supposed to be taken seriously and Tiffany Stratton was playing a character. Plus I call bulls**t on Dave Meltzer claim that if she wasn't a big star she would be fired, like come on this was clearly not supposed to mean anything and is an honest overreaction and no one should be fired over something as idiotic as this.
She lost to Bianca, so is that not good enough?
Modern day Earkel has spoken ....LOL
Does that make you Judy with an Only Fans?
Well she did get her receipt. She got eliminated by Bianca Bel Air in the Queen of the Ring tournament.
Yeah, my gut tells me that may be the beginning of a punishment.
I agree 100% I don’t think she should be cancelled or anything I just want sum answers why did she think this was a good idea to post 😭
Exactly!
Brother Alfred, I agree WWE should lean heavily into the far right politics in some of their characters. Reason being, when forced to see how terrible some of these people truly are, some might wake up and change.
Only reason why it won't work is because like you said sponsors and some in management hold those beliefs.
Yeah the sponsors definitely muddy those waters. I get why WWE is so quick to pull politically motivated characters, especially when they inevitable go viral in political circles. But in an alternate universe, WWE taps into a whole new audience by booking these types of angles. Pro wrestling and politics are far more similar than anybody gives them credit for. It's a match made in heaven, and WWE keeping them apart feels like Romeo and Juliet.
It was in bad taste and stupid but there was no malice behind it. She just posted it without thinking if it will offend people. It's really not that deep. If Jade was offended by it, you would have heard about it in the reports. If she continuously does shit like this on her social media, then it will be a cause for concern.
I dude posting hear for views and all that racist dumb shit he says is why we’re all on these comments see he’s a lil RUclipsr compared to Tiffany fuckin Stratton in wwe not to be disrespectful to him 😂
dang i havent heard the word WASP in a loooong time!
En Estados Unidos se toman demasiado en serio el tema racial. En mi país decir "negro" es casi un habito
Learn the history of the U.S and racism and you'll understand why. No need for people to highlight somebody's race when insulting them.
@@ElectricalFlare7201 the audio in the video is said by a black girl
@@engel1816 Doesn't matter. Why would Tiffany (a White girl) feel the need to the share a post that used that audio?
@@ElectricalFlare7201 she is heel, is according with her gimmick
@@ElectricalFlare7201 and it wasn't even the N word
Everyone just chill we need to laugh cause back before the bs woke crap everyone would be laughing
Do you remember when paying for RUclips premium meant NO ADS?? I’m so tired of fuckin Ads
Yo Alfred you funny ASF 😂😂😂😂 always on time when we need you big Dog keep up the good work ☝️ also you should consider doing a show With Eric bischoff it would be incredible and Alfred and bischoff Roast on Meltzer is whats best for the youtube community 😂😂😂😂
Thank you so much! Easy E is dope, don't be surprised if he pops up on this channel in the future just to show n!ggas lol
LMAO😂😂😂😂 crying about a rumor about a post that never existed.
What size do you guys think his Tiffy Time Hat is?
@@ProWrestlingBits took you 4 weeks to come up with a comeback, I take it you kept crying for 3 weeks
WWE has a history of leaning into controversy like this.
Remember the Shelton and Trish opening promo?
If Vince was in charge I could see them leaning into it like you said, but I don't HHH going that far.
Bottom line: Tiffany's comment was at worst idiotic but not racist and the re-re's of social media need to get a life
Tiffany's comment is part of the angle. Why is it idiotic?
@finalfantasy1912 I'm not saying for me it was idiotic.
Allow me to clarify:
The worst you can call it was idiotic. Me personally I'm with you it was part of the storyline.
The RE-RE's on the other hand will take it much further than it actually has to go.
@Terri234 She removed it due to the backlash and whining she got.
@Terri234 I'm sure she did get a talking to from the higher ups but the ridiculous crying about it is likely what got the post pulled.
Pro wrestling is at its best when it shamelessly leans into controversy. It shouldn't
be that deep.
I’m a tiffy time fan so I wanna interview on this bro I’m shocked but I been seeing you on the wrestling game
I find it disconcerting that people are so quick to surrender free speech to bigots. I'm center-left, but I don't see the value in rampant censorship, other than to engender the type of resentment that gets people like Trump fuel in the first place. The world is better when everyone is speaking to their convictions freely. Marketplace of ideas and all that.
The amount of copium in the comments is NUTS. Also, if they turn Stratton into some kinda MTG analogue, I might turn the TV off
I would like to see the day when all people will stop using ignorant words to refer to another even in a causal conversation. Ignorant words are not supposed to be part of anyone's culture. Ignorance is being relived daily.
Who is this really offending
Tiffany is great. I hope this is all a terrible miss step.
I HOPE so, too. I do not assume anything.
@@ProWrestlingBits You sure about that? Because what you were saying, kinda goes against that and said that you mad about it but yet you don’t think she’s racist do you think anyone who defense is? Let’s have this conversation, dude.
You still have time to delete this video.
Lots of White Fragility happening in the comment section.
If jade spoke French she would be creole meaning she is still black 😂 that won’t change
No argument here. I didn't say anything about her skin color.
@@ProWrestlingBits I ain’t arguing I’m adding to your point 🥂
Right Wing characters have existed in WWE, Right To Censor & JBL are some of them.
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MY GUY!
Far right....u mean laft
Nope, both sides
It’s still Tiffy time!!!!
Its racist bro. She know it was. She knew her talent wouldnt get her no consequences. Argue with a AEW fan or something
Glad we solved that controversy. .
As usual, only the racists don’t see anything wrong with what she posted. Unfortunately for Stratton, her poor decision cost her being in the finals of the queen of the ring tournament, thus derailing the storyline set for her. Ironically, she was eliminated by a black woman. Which now puts her at the back of the line, really they’re gonna minimize any appearance of her to negate the negative impact her actions has caused. Bottom line, she felt more of the spotlight and media appearances, and opportunities belonged to her rather than Jade. Basically hating. WWE has so much invested in Jade that it was enough to take away Stratton’s opportunity. Now she’ll be sitting in catering, while someone else takes her spot in the finals.
Facts!
@@ProWrestlingBits I’m confused here are you mad or want this to be a storyline?
@@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849 Why would I be mad that a racist got her opportunity taken and given to a black woman? It's actually ironic and funny.
@@DatMfka Honestly if it how she truly feels that suck and she sucks as person!