M1 Mac vs. Intel PC for Photos and Video (Lightroom, Capture One, DaVinci Resolve, Final Cut Pro)

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  • Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
  • We compare Apple's new M1 Mac vs. Intel PC for everyday photo and video editing. Is the M1 as great as it sounds? According to our real-world tests... it depends.
    Watch to find out how Apple's M1 Mac really compares to an Intel PC running windows.
    Quicklinks:
    0:00 - Intro
    1:23 - Chris and Jordan's previous computers
    2:46 - Computers tested
    4:27 - Adobe Lightroom performance
    6:10 - Capture One performance
    7:39 - Photography conclusion
    8:30 - Davinci Resolve performance
    10:36 - Final Cut Pro performance
    11:26 - Gaming performance
    13:39 - Which should you get?
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  • @niccollsvideo
    @niccollsvideo 3 года назад +478

    Yes, everyone, you saw correctly. I am an arrow key user, and not WASD. Maybe it's from gaming way back in the days when keyboard keys were 3 inches tall, and your wrist would push every key below or be propped in an incredibly uncomfortable position. Or maybe it's because arrow keys give you perfect symmetry, with plenty of larger and easier buttons around them to press. Or maybe it's because I am a pioneer, and you all are doing it wrong.

    • @danielschmaderer
      @danielschmaderer 3 года назад +26

      Sooooo you gamed on a typewriter? Fascinating.

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo 3 года назад +23

      @@danielschmaderer Hey in junior high school that was a class. And the game was could you type ADDA ABBA LADS LADA LLDD JKL; Thousands of times, over and over, without having your brain shut down. It was a fun game.

    • @danielschmaderer
      @danielschmaderer 3 года назад +6

      @@niccollsvideo fascinating how far games have evolved. Doom is as far back as I can go on a computer during my middle school years. So my question to you is, do you still play ADDA ABBA LADS LADA LLDD JKL; and how do the graphics hold up compared to Metro?

    • @youta9
      @youta9 3 года назад +2

      I play using arrows too... it's easier always. everyone else is definitely doing it wrong .... rofl

    • @E4xtream
      @E4xtream 3 года назад +2

      That laugh though...

  • @JimmyMcAwesome
    @JimmyMcAwesome 3 года назад +429

    The most controversial part of this video is Chris not using WASD while gaming.

    • @cameralance
      @cameralance 3 года назад

      This.

    • @petercruz1993
      @petercruz1993 3 года назад +4

      Sickening. Repulsive.

    • @IgorPetrovic13
      @IgorPetrovic13 3 года назад +2

      his laptop transformed into a furnace, maybe the bottom right corner is colder :D

    • @bogrunberger
      @bogrunberger 2 года назад

      That's not controversial. Elite gamers all use NUM keys. Everybody knows that!

  • @citrusandseasalt
    @citrusandseasalt 3 года назад +155

    Just two guys, drinking rosé, shooting the shit… 😂

  • @thecommenter578
    @thecommenter578 3 года назад +198

    Jordan refuses to play modern games. His dad transformation is complete

    • @Bolton115
      @Bolton115 3 года назад +2

      Bwahahahahaha!! As a Dad whose last video game contribution to his kids was a Commodore Amiga CDTV running a shareware Pipes game, I resemble this remark.

    • @Sunny-jz3dy
      @Sunny-jz3dy 2 года назад

      😂

  • @avonperera2187
    @avonperera2187 3 года назад +82

    "Quake or forsaken?" Oof Jordan, way to hit me in the nostalgia.

    • @MgarrKid
      @MgarrKid 3 года назад +2

      To me those are 'modern' games..... feeling VERY old right now!

    • @io2112
      @io2112 3 года назад +1

      I played both games when they were released. Now I'm feeling old 😅

    • @eatsimplefood
      @eatsimplefood 3 года назад +1

      Damn Jordan, could you check if we can play quake and forsaken on the M1? We should start the club of FCPOldSchool Gamerz. I upgraded my PC/old Hackintosh last winter. Thought I could start playing games again and almost has to 🤮 after just a few minutes. I guess I can only game on 19" heavy duty CRT monitors ;)

    • @skyrunr
      @skyrunr 3 года назад +2

      The first release of Descent for me.

    • @loydsa
      @loydsa 3 года назад +5

      At least he didn't say doom :-)

  • @erinwiebe7026
    @erinwiebe7026 3 года назад +50

    Commenting only to draw attention to Jordan's fantastic Amadeus shirt!

  • @CarletonTorpin
    @CarletonTorpin 3 года назад +115

    2:22 - Every Apple-store shopping trip, explained. "Here's a few thousand dollars, turn it into a computer for me".

    • @cars291
      @cars291 3 года назад +2

      Try buying anything at a retailer like Best Buy..

    • @Bolton115
      @Bolton115 3 года назад +2

      @@cars291 At least at Best Buy, I know I'm getting maybe not the sharpest tool in the shed. As opposed to the Apple store where it's the same deal except that they're Apple nerds so they think that they invented modern day computing.

    • @bitronicc1887
      @bitronicc1887 2 года назад +1

      @@cars291 "Here's a few thousand dollars, turn it into a toothbrush for me."

    • @leticiali
      @leticiali 2 года назад

      They are so dumb they can't say even say ""Here's a few thousand dollars, turn it into an AMD Threadripper PC desktop computer for me?"

  • @jimbolic0809
    @jimbolic0809 2 года назад +3

    I have to say, I love the banter from you two! You guys spark so much joy in my life.

  • @kimfarrelly
    @kimfarrelly 3 года назад +136

    My takeaway is buy the iMac and spend the saved $1750 on camera gear. OK I'll go do that right now, thanks guys another great vid.

    • @Jbzy3000
      @Jbzy3000 2 года назад +5

      I bought MacBook Air and bought wife Mac mini and a new lens. Lol blew the rest of money on bourbon and cigars.

    • @ryankwan1934
      @ryankwan1934 2 года назад +2

      The real takeaway is buy a purely AMD laptop and get more performance than both with better efficiency than the Intel system and save money. If you can tolerate the looks, the Asus ROG Strix G15 AMD Advantage Edition will run with Chris' laptop for a fraction of the price.

    • @Sunny-jz3dy
      @Sunny-jz3dy 2 года назад +1

      😂

  • @_o__o_
    @_o__o_ 3 года назад +245

    Chris has tiny little legs 00:26

  • @LucianoStabel
    @LucianoStabel 3 года назад +77

    Aside from this Mac x Pc discussion, what a cool Amadeus t-shirt. Best movie ever.

    • @thatjordandrake
      @thatjordandrake 3 года назад +4

      Thanks! It's one of my favourite films.

    • @skakdosmer
      @skakdosmer 3 года назад

      That’s because you know nothing about music. I enjoyed the movie the first time. After that the nonsense got sickening.

    • @LucianoStabel
      @LucianoStabel 3 года назад

      It's not about music, it's about cinema. The photography, costumes, direction, storyline, actors' performance and many other aspects are outstanding. If you are saying that because of the lack of historical accuracy, this movie doesn't mean to be accurate once it's based on a stage play. So, if you say I know nothing about music (even not knowing me), I can say you know nothing about cinema and photography. Maybe you should be commenting on Rick Beato's channel instead. Peace.

    • @picucacestquoi4527
      @picucacestquoi4527 2 года назад +2

      @@LucianoStabel And that unforgettable laugh too! 👍

    • @ryanhill1363
      @ryanhill1363 2 года назад +1

      Great video - and loved the Amadeus t-shirt, too. 🙂 No matter what our opinions are of the film, I'm sure that we can all agree that the soundtrack was excellent! 😃

  • @e3446
    @e3446 3 года назад

    Love this comparison, great job guys!

  • @draven1018
    @draven1018 3 года назад +33

    “ You’re enslaved to your golden overlord “ 🤣🤣🤣

  • @TomaszBrodecki
    @TomaszBrodecki 3 года назад +7

    Loved it. Thanks for this. For editing as well as gaming, I'm definitely in the GET BOTH team.

  • @asldfjkalsdfjasdf
    @asldfjkalsdfjasdf 3 года назад

    Love the banter!
    Thank you for the nice comparison.

  • @osks
    @osks 2 года назад

    Very nicely done!

  • @crisfrancia
    @crisfrancia 2 года назад +9

    I like how simple, straightforward and fun this video is. No fancy b-rolls or whatsoever, just plain facts and real life test/scenarios. It's interesting to see that Macs are now 'cheaper' than PCs. Apple's chip has tons of potential, to think we are just seeing the 1st generation. Can't wait to see 'gaming' Macs and more apps being optimized for the M chip.

  • @897jkl
    @897jkl 3 года назад +5

    Intros are always a joy to watch 😂

  • @StefanNuetzel
    @StefanNuetzel 3 года назад +1

    You are actually my favorite youtubers. No matter what subject you tackle. Thank you for your entertaining videos. Cheers from Vienna!

  • @RMD2U
    @RMD2U 2 года назад

    Great Video! I genuinely enjoyed it beginning to end!

  • @KenCheng
    @KenCheng 3 года назад +41

    my wife is all Apple (literally, you name it, she's got it), I'm all PC and Android... and we get along just fine

    • @mjp29
      @mjp29 3 года назад

      Android was created with the Linux kernel, so one could argue that most the computers in the world actually run on Linux.

    • @TheQxY
      @TheQxY 3 года назад

      Honest question: How do you plan stuff together? My gf is on I'm and I'm on Windows/Android and I haven't figured out how to have a shared calendar on our phones while still using our usual calendar apps. 😅

    • @rrosomasa
      @rrosomasa 3 года назад

      @@TheQxY there’s an app for that

    • @TheOrisya
      @TheOrisya 3 года назад +1

      Cause you two just plug & play 🤣

    • @aurelian1
      @aurelian1 3 года назад +1

      @@TheQxY I just use Google Calendar (the Mac/iOS calendar app supports GCal syncing!).

  • @spoons27
    @spoons27 3 года назад +73

    3500 dollar! Against 1699 🤔 It took an i9 maxed out to compete wait until M1X or M2

    • @titovalasques
      @titovalasques 3 года назад +5

      Not to mention the power consumption difference and the fact that the M1 iMac isn’t a professional unit. I’de like to see them do this same test when the M1X/M2 iMac is released.

    • @1337Superfly
      @1337Superfly 3 года назад +5

      It is the GFX card.
      Around 400% faster. That does count for something😊

    • @beaubolieu
      @beaubolieu 2 года назад +3

      @@1337Superfly counts for about $1849

    • @castielvargastv7931
      @castielvargastv7931 2 года назад +3

      M2 will be more expensive also

    • @petergabriel1606
      @petergabriel1606 2 года назад

      And a bigger screen.

  • @bllpagepapa
    @bllpagepapa 3 года назад

    Thanks always informative and fun.Appreciate it.

  • @hawaiianhaole
    @hawaiianhaole 3 года назад

    Really great video! So fun to watch 😆

  • @allenpeter6990
    @allenpeter6990 3 года назад +17

    This was quite fun to watch lol

  • @TheEverydayDad
    @TheEverydayDad 3 года назад +79

    Just wanted to add in the dog piling of the arrow key gaming controversy.

  • @MarkConnely
    @MarkConnely 3 года назад

    Good show. Every time I was about to have a question, you guys answered it. Great minds...

  • @TheStringBreaker
    @TheStringBreaker 2 года назад

    Phenomenal video! Subbed!

  • @libork8106
    @libork8106 2 года назад +3

    This was fun.
    I really like the practical test, only wondering if Chris would have the same RAM, how it would turn out ???

  • @nyobunknown6983
    @nyobunknown6983 3 года назад +18

    Just like with cameras I no longer crave the latest and greatest computers. My laptop is almost 2 years old and my desktop 4 yet they do everything very well.

  • @craig26study
    @craig26study 2 года назад

    good job guys, quite entertaining. I subscribed to your channel. cheers

  • @loooga18
    @loooga18 3 года назад

    Enjoyed that video!

  • @PhilippeOrlando
    @PhilippeOrlando 3 года назад +39

    I'm an intel person, I"ve built all my computers myself, to edit video, and frankly the $2000 extra you pay for that laptop Chris is using are not justified to gain a few seconds. I think I'm going to seriously, for the first time in my life, at Apple computers.

    • @1337Superfly
      @1337Superfly 3 года назад +5

      The price difference is also because of the GFX card which is 400% faster.
      AMD have some serious computing stuff as well. Keep your freedom?

    • @janoudman2695
      @janoudman2695 2 года назад

      Don't forget that one of the reasons laptops are more expensive is because of the battery component inside does cost money

    • @1337Superfly
      @1337Superfly 2 года назад

      @@janoudman2695 Both laptops have batteries.
      Still the powerful GFX card is probably the most expensive part.

    • @LiLBitsDK
      @LiLBitsDK 2 года назад

      @@1337Superfly 400% for a discrete GPU vs. a tiny APU... :D

    • @1337Superfly
      @1337Superfly 2 года назад +1

      @@LiLBitsDK Yup, 400%.
      It runs rings around it. 😄

  • @ridealongwithrandy
    @ridealongwithrandy 3 года назад +3

    you guys are so darn entertaining, watch out Hollywood! Made my day!

  • @TheUKNZ
    @TheUKNZ 2 года назад

    I got 20 seconds in with that intro and clicked 'Like'...too funny...well done!

  • @PortugalCarp
    @PortugalCarp 3 года назад

    Great video you two.

  • @phelanwolf6747
    @phelanwolf6747 3 года назад +10

    Nice and fun video to watch 😄
    The price and performance if the M1s is quite impressive, however their low amount of RAM and storage as well as lack of support for virtual machines currently prevents me from truly considering them for work.

    • @rcpmac
      @rcpmac 2 года назад

      M2 pro systems are on the way

  • @enregistreur
    @enregistreur 3 года назад +11

    As a « hardcore gamer » I decided to keep my old desktop PC (i7 2600 / GTX 970) and skip the upgrade for a few more months or years, and instead invested in a M1 MacBook Air.
    It can’t do gaming, yes, but the complete silence yet power of this thing is amazing.
    I just hope I won’t regret its unrepairability in a few years though (I probably will...).
    Good video!

    • @ronaldojoe3011
      @ronaldojoe3011 3 года назад +2

      As a PC user I've found that using macs can be quite challenging, just the other day I was showing my friend how to use torrents on her macbook and the whole experience was just weird. Are there any hangups that you've experienced going from a PC to mac? What are the most frustrating ones?

    • @noenken
      @noenken 3 года назад

      Try Apple Arcade. No, seriously. Mobile games can actually be fun when every last bit of scamware, DLC-BS and other monetization crap has been filtered out.

    • @SuperSuperka
      @SuperSuperka 3 года назад

      Your M1 MacAir is silent because there nothing you can do on it. My friend just bought AMD 4800H laptop doing VFX , not silent, but not loud machine. But who needs intel these days?

    • @noenken
      @noenken 3 года назад +1

      @@SuperSuperka What do you mean by "There's nothing you can do on it"? ... That sounds a bit silly to me.

    • @Bayonet1809
      @Bayonet1809 3 года назад

      @@SuperSuperka It is silent because there is literally no fan inside.

  • @jerryhogan9650
    @jerryhogan9650 3 года назад

    Thanks for the different subject matter, fun! Look forward to more different videos. Make an alternate channel with expanded subject matter? You guys play well off of each other.

  • @rayjalijali8237
    @rayjalijali8237 2 года назад

    More than the abundance of useful information in them, your videos are highly entertaining. Thank you!

  • @ignorance_is_strenght
    @ignorance_is_strenght 3 года назад +23

    Someone on the internet talks about Apple VS PC, finally!

  • @MrCameraJunkie
    @MrCameraJunkie 3 года назад +3

    Great video Guy's. Informative and entertaining as always. 🔥💯

  • @natjes6017
    @natjes6017 3 года назад

    Great video, loved it!

  • @ikkysleepy
    @ikkysleepy 3 года назад

    Loved it. Great Video.

  • @ChrisProuse
    @ChrisProuse 3 года назад +16

    Loved the banter! 😄 Pretty impressive when you consider the M1 is using a fraction of the power and evolved from phone / tablet processors. I think when Apple starts pushing the higher wattages that have traditionally been in the larger 27” models, things are going to really heat up in these types of comparisons… no pun intended, lol.

    • @LiLBitsDK
      @LiLBitsDK 2 года назад +1

      yeah they forgot to include power usage and noise levels ;-)

    • @leticiali
      @leticiali 2 года назад

      The M1 is not using less power - its incredible the ignorance in the comments! Its a DESKTOP iMAC!

    • @ChrisProuse
      @ChrisProuse 2 года назад

      @@leticiali So... the entire M1 iMac computer consumes between 43-84W ...and the laptop's i9 processor alone (just the chip by itself) consumes between 65-110W, lol. But I think you missed the point I was trying to make - my 2020 27' 10-core Intel i9 iMac consumes between 74-295W... so when Apple decides to start pushing higher wattages in their chips, in larger form factors like the 27' (which have traditionally had higher TDP's and more cooling than the 24'), the performance is going to be exciting to watch!

    • @leticiali
      @leticiali 2 года назад

      @@ChrisProuse I think you missed all my points. Read my point by point summation. If they want to compare, do an apple to apple, orange to orange test! You're all still talking about lousy Intel chips & nonsensical assumptions of iMac power draws. Why not try comparing my late 2020 Lenovo Yoga AMD 4800H 8 CPU core 16 laptop costing less than US$1000 against ANY iMac for example? I bet it will still beat any iMac hands down!

    • @ChrisProuse
      @ChrisProuse 2 года назад +2

      @@leticiali - Lol, that wasn’t my point at all, and you (who replied to my comment), completely missed it again. So I’ll make it super easy for you to understand - Apple’s cranking out more performance per watt… and I’m excited for when Apple pushes the wattages higher in their larger form factors like the 27’.

  •  3 года назад +4

    I very like this format; a fair, real-world comparison with some fun. I like the way you guys discuss together.

  • @MarkoKoskenoja
    @MarkoKoskenoja 3 года назад

    Great video guys 👏😁

  • @VijitChandna
    @VijitChandna 3 года назад +1

    I really needed this

  • @regulartxdude7813
    @regulartxdude7813 3 года назад +12

    Just remember that the M1 Mac is the entry level model and half the price of the PC laptop. Wait for the new macbook pro and iMacs with the M1X or whatever the new chip will be called coming out in the fall.

    • @djmatt1
      @djmatt1 2 года назад +3

      Mac is definitely the better buy, I've served my time with Windows PCs, when I switched over to Apple I felt as if I was released from prison!

    • @callmedeno
      @callmedeno 2 года назад +1

      @@djmatt1 Only problem is they literally want to peep all your photos

    • @koruki
      @koruki 2 года назад

      @@callmedeno lol it peeps at your photos as much as your monitor peeps at your photos

    • @callmedeno
      @callmedeno 2 года назад

      @@koruki Monitors aren't being streamed to anyone

    • @koruki
      @koruki 2 года назад

      @@callmedeno neither is the photos go do some research on how it works

  • @jacksoni349
    @jacksoni349 3 года назад +68

    Was Chris's Intel laptop plugged in during all the tests? That would also effect the results. Supposedly the RTX cards cut down their performance when not plugged in to be more efficient.

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo 3 года назад +30

      Definitely plugged in. And it does make a big difference.

    • @sophiergabriel3103
      @sophiergabriel3103 3 года назад +21

      Jordan's computer is also plugged in 😂

    • @HotRodHippie
      @HotRodHippie 3 года назад +1

      You can see the power cord to the right of his laptop in a lot of the wide shots where you see both systems.

    • @cameraprepper7938
      @cameraprepper7938 3 года назад +13

      @@niccollsvideo Then an unplugged Macbook Air/Pro M1 will be better.

    • @timlaunyc
      @timlaunyc 3 года назад +2

      The testing didn't really tax the GPU. It was mostly a CPU and SSD test.

  • @avizinger6451
    @avizinger6451 2 года назад

    Love you guys you’re amazing 🤙🏼

  • @AndersKeisHansen
    @AndersKeisHansen 3 года назад

    Another awesome, and absolutely funny video from you guys :) Thx a lot

  • @davidpeterson9182
    @davidpeterson9182 3 года назад +24

    I’m really impressed that the entry level m1 is roughly equal to a very highly specked pc laptop for most tasks. Good job Apple!

    • @happythec1am
      @happythec1am 3 года назад +3

      what's even crazier is the M1 iPad pro has a similar processor.

    • @Teluric2
      @Teluric2 3 года назад

      No. The m1 is about the same as a i7 six core
      m.ruclips.net/video/2BooIC5qGO8/видео.html

    • @happythec1am
      @happythec1am 3 года назад

      @@Teluric2 No, this review is DOA unless he switches it over to software encoding which I’m not even sure you can do in FCP. Otherwise, all he is comparing is hardware h.264 encoder chips of Intel vs M1. But this encoder is in the T2 chip on macbooks which both computers have and they are probably the same T2 chip or close to it.

    • @Teluric2
      @Teluric2 3 года назад

      @@happythec1am no .because all claims about m1 are based on numbers and benchmark bars that nobody has verified.
      No test where they claim m1 is faster has been done showing the time counter on screen like this.
      m.ruclips.net/video/2BooIC5qGO8/видео.html
      I have another video where intel macs beats m1 on fcp

    • @davidpeterson9182
      @davidpeterson9182 3 года назад +1

      @@Teluric2 Not my experience I have both although I still like playing games on the PC

  • @AsianWithHat
    @AsianWithHat 3 года назад +8

    As an editor, I would like to see comparisons of renders from H265 422 Footage.
    The render times are substantially different and the M1 should outperform an X86 computer.
    No bias here. I use a Windows computer for editing on a daily basis and I am now considering an M1 for travel purposes.

    • @FloatingOnAZephyr
      @FloatingOnAZephyr 2 года назад +1

      Agreed. The 420 really saved the PC bacon here. 422 10-bit is not hardware accelerated in a lot of hardware, it is on M1.

    • @kentahirono
      @kentahirono 2 года назад

      @@FloatingOnAZephyr well hw encoder is present in both Intel CPU and Nvidia GPU.

    • @FloatingOnAZephyr
      @FloatingOnAZephyr 2 года назад +1

      @@kentahirono not for 10-bit 422, sadly.

    • @uncleanAlibertine1
      @uncleanAlibertine1 2 года назад

      it flies on davinchi even h265 10 bit. I will found out someone who has done some editing ( through don/t expect to be super great on de nosining)

  • @rhysgeorge7437
    @rhysgeorge7437 2 года назад +1

    One thing I find really useful in speeding up large exports in Capture one is removing the previews from the ram, once you’ve got the export going (you usually have a lot of files selected and a folder with a lot of previews open at this stage) go back into the folder tab, click on an empty folder such as the selects shortcut and then go back into the output tab, taking the previews out of the equation especially with a lot of adjustments and a stack of files really helps speed things up, have done this since my early digitech days and haven’t looked back. Could be psychological when you are at the end of a shoot staring at the output queue but it feels at least 25% quicker.

  • @jason.martin
    @jason.martin 2 года назад

    haha, the intro was brilliant :)

  • @iSuperMC
    @iSuperMC 3 года назад +59

    $1700 vs $3000+
    I think there’s a clear winner here…

    • @astrovlog
      @astrovlog 3 года назад +13

      and you get the same performance on a Mac mini!!!!!

    • @iSuperMC
      @iSuperMC 3 года назад +13

      @@astrovlog which is complete madness. On an iMac you also get a larger screen (which could arguably be said to be better for photo/video work than a small laptop screen). Idk man, these Apple people might be on to something, they should probably start a company 😂

    • @robertcapello
      @robertcapello 3 года назад +10

      Also 16gb vs 32gb

    • @noenken
      @noenken 3 года назад +9

      @@astrovlog And you can get the M1 mac mini with 10Gbit LAN. It's what I have. And it's nuts!

    • @SuperSuperka
      @SuperSuperka 3 года назад +5

      If you need Windows, you need AMD these days, 4800H for example

  • @amirulizzad6122
    @amirulizzad6122 3 года назад +25

    1:49 a blasphemous key binding 🥺

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo 3 года назад +16

      You have RCNTRL for cover/lean and NUM0 for crouch, RSHFT for sprint, NUM1 for jump, ENT for use. And I SPACE bar for reload. I'm gonna start my own religion.

    • @ChaddCady
      @ChaddCady 3 года назад +10

      @@niccollsvideo Chris who hurt you

    • @Zakna
      @Zakna 3 года назад

      @@niccollsvideo awww man..I was totally team Chris until I saw that...

  • @jeffmiller8950
    @jeffmiller8950 3 года назад +1

    Entertaining yet very informative video. Also curious if you happen to have tested any editing plug-ins with LR or C1 like Topaz for example, and if so what your thoughts were. Thanks again for a great video.

  • @reginaldfrancisco6843
    @reginaldfrancisco6843 3 года назад

    Great content . Finally a comparison video that isn't gaming performance focused and more on real world photography related tests. Itnwould have been added value if you could have elaborated on what componwnts of a system photo editing softwares like capture one or lightroom heavuly rely on to get optimal results.

  • @bburchellphotos
    @bburchellphotos 3 года назад +42

    Where's a Ryzen PC? :'( Intel is soooooo last year.

    • @xWood4000
      @xWood4000 3 года назад +4

      Yeah Intel is pretty slow for this type of workload

    • @youta9
      @youta9 3 года назад +1

      Definitely agree with you !. i had edited 4k dci fuji on premier pro with just a ryzen 3 laptop which cost less than many mid range phones...... it will be pretty interesting to compare m1 or the next version of it with a top end ryzen/threadripper laptop/pc.... i am sure there will be a big performance jump.. even only factoring the number of cores and threads on a top end amd cpu... but apple products are aimed for people who don't want to spend time trying to solve issues and customize things, thus letting them spend their time on getting the actual work done without distractions... also mac is designed pretty simple and less settings to tweak etc.. just straight forward to use etc.... so i guess it depends on the type of work and the time they have etc... but haven't tried a pc/laptop with windows 11.. heard it will be a bit more optimized like mac os... also final cut pro is a major factor which steer the content creators to choose mac...

    • @JetBen555
      @JetBen555 3 года назад +8

      @@xWood4000 On the laptop side of thing, AMD is not that much better than Intel's 11th gen CPU, it's really similar performance but on a desktop, that's a much different story. When it come to video editing, the GPU matter a lot more on WIndows because Davinci and Premiere mostly use the decoder inside the GPU... CPU performance only matter for exporting.

    • @erbterb
      @erbterb 3 года назад +1

      They are two photo guys, what do you expect? Linus?

    • @bburchellphotos
      @bburchellphotos 3 года назад +2

      @@erbterb Well, it is a comparison video, and they work for dpreview so do could have secured a Ryzen desktop. I’m sure someone would have load them one.
      One things is for certain, the Mac was prettier to look at than the laptop 😁

  • @scarcesense6449
    @scarcesense6449 3 года назад +16

    How has Apple gone from twice the price to half the price in one generation?

    • @PeterbFree
      @PeterbFree 3 года назад +4

      ARM system on a chip (SOC) technology. Within 3 years x86 will be so far behind and so much more expensive it will be a joke to try and compare these two systems

    • @Bolton115
      @Bolton115 3 года назад

      @@PeterbFree TSMC makes both Apple and AMD chips-and Apple monopolized the new fab on purpose to cut other vendors out. Even so, AMD is currently ahead of Intel-however, neither of those companies are going to take this lying down. The chip wars are anything but over!

    • @colinstock325
      @colinstock325 2 года назад

      @@PeterbFree Intel and AMD will have to start producing SOCs for laptops. The performance gains and lack of throttling due to overheating means it’s the only way forward. As for Apple all their current Intel Macs are based on laptop technology. The M1 chipset is also targeting laptops. I can’t see that changing for the higher end chips.
      Intel and AMD will continue to rule the high end desktop market where heat can be dissipated using more efficient water cooling.

  • @bobuk5722
    @bobuk5722 3 года назад

    Hi U 2. I enjoyed that, nicely done. A few below have referenced the screen size but against that there's portability. Depends what you need/want I guess. BobUK.

  • @NVIK5
    @NVIK5 3 года назад +1

    Loving your iMac Jordan, I have the blue one, absolutely amazing!

  • @Firestorm035
    @Firestorm035 3 года назад +7

    I might have an amazing desktop with a Ryzen 7 5800X, 32gb DDR4 of ram, 3TB of Nvme storage and a RTX 3060ti, but I'd would love to get my hands on a MacBook Pro with the next gen M chips for when I'm on the go.

    • @nikoolix
      @nikoolix 3 года назад +1

      Yes it's pretty crazy that the time has come where macbooks actually offer good price to performance ratio. Nothing comes close to the M1 in power efficiency.

  • @alejandrofuentes84
    @alejandrofuentes84 3 года назад +4

    The reflection on the table makes Chris look like he's wearing shorts and has tiny legs LOL

  • @makeandhits
    @makeandhits 2 года назад

    I love your comparassion.. atractive, informative, and funny 😁

  • @volodymyrpetrov9677
    @volodymyrpetrov9677 3 года назад

    At this point, I don't really care what the title says, it's really entertaining to watch it with two of you! I love you guys!

  • @andrewbalcombe1338
    @andrewbalcombe1338 3 года назад +5

    The reflection on the glass table gives the impression that Chris is wearing shorts and he has a pair of small chicken like legs underneath. Thanks for the review too :-).

  • @stefchenko009
    @stefchenko009 3 года назад +65

    im actually more impressed with the Mac since Chris literally has twice the ram

    • @stanchung69
      @stanchung69 3 года назад +3

      Right, more screen and half the price!

    • @Teluric2
      @Teluric2 3 года назад

      M1 vs 6 cores..see the time counter
      m.ruclips.net/video/2BooIC5qGO8/видео.html

    • @joshuaconti989
      @joshuaconti989 3 года назад +3

      and twice the price!

    • @yourremarkablyaveragepal781
      @yourremarkablyaveragepal781 2 года назад +1

      @@joshuaconti989 no

    • @leticiali
      @leticiali 2 года назад

      Read my sum up of the whole video. Its a stupid comparison, you all! Spend US$1699 on an AMD Threadripper then! You lot would have all that RAM and screen real estate!

  • @ianpgonzaga
    @ianpgonzaga 2 года назад

    LOL@ watching Chris play games. Great review guys.

  • @uknwwho2984
    @uknwwho2984 3 года назад

    You guys are just so cool!

  • @gmaas1418
    @gmaas1418 3 года назад +25

    Try not to see the reflection of Chris' arms as two deformed legs. Once seen, it can not be unseen.

  • @catchlite5196
    @catchlite5196 3 года назад +4

    Let’s see the M1X coming later this year.. 😎

  • @shahrilnizam25
    @shahrilnizam25 2 года назад

    incredibly entertaining!

  • @findermanimages
    @findermanimages 2 года назад

    I'm a 16" MacBook Pro i7 user and now looking to an M1 so found this informative. That aside, loved the banter and the chilled sit-down-and-shoot-the-shit format while swigging wine. Cracking video... more of the same please!

  • @alex0589
    @alex0589 3 года назад +12

    Wait 18 months and everything will start getting optimized for m1 type chips/devices. I dont have a cat in this fight but i feel like things are about to get faster.

    • @rcpmac
      @rcpmac 2 года назад

      Yes it was

    • @kentahirono
      @kentahirono 2 года назад

      What runs on m1 are already optimized while windows sw has to be compatible on a lot of older hw and different brands.

  • @matthieuzglurg6015
    @matthieuzglurg6015 3 года назад +4

    imho, the real thing that wasn't took into account here was the fact teh Chris have a laptop. Getting such power hungry components into a relatively small package that needs to look cool, have a screen and a keyboard and a big chungus battery (like it's just below the maximum amount of Wh that you can carry in a plane without it being considered as a potential explosive weapon)
    All of this cost money, and you pay full price for what is effectively cut down versions of the desktop parts (the i9 is a laptop chip, and has a smaller power enveloppe, and the RTX 3080 mobile is based off the chip of the RTX 3070 for desktops (GA 104). The real desktop version of the RTX 3080 is based on the same chip as the 3090 (the GA 102) and is much, much more powerful than the 3070, especially when it comes to 4K.
    If you would compare a 1600$ desktop PC with the M1 imac, I'm quite sure that the results would not be as close. Even more if you include AMD into the picture, where they've been killing Intel when it comes to productivity since 2019, when Ryzen 3000 came out. Not mentionning there is some powerful AMD laptops as well that just kicks ass thanks to the 7nm process being more power efficient.
    Otherwise, really nice video
    (can't wait to see a 1v1 Chris vs Jordan in Quake tho)

    • @alexPsanz
      @alexPsanz 3 года назад

      The iMac is a laptop attached to monitor. The performance will be very close to a macbook. I agree they should be comparing like for like, but it will hurt intel even more. The macbook air has much better performance, battery life and less throttling on battery compared to anything in its price range. You can also compare the iMac to all in ones in the price range but it will also be much faster and have a better monitor, speakers, build etc. Apple does have a real desktop competitor yet but I assume the higher end 27+ iMac will hold their own dollar for dollar when you consider the cost for the monitor.

  • @pluginvideo
    @pluginvideo 2 года назад

    Hello, What about security comparison? Crashing software? Really enjoyed your video! Thanks for great content

  • @svenonnerstad1494
    @svenonnerstad1494 3 года назад

    The best review ever of Mac vs PC!

  • @brushcreek
    @brushcreek 3 года назад +20

    I’m more interested in a high performance/low cost desktop option…

    • @andrescarrasco1248
      @andrescarrasco1248 3 года назад +8

      The laptop is an extremely overpriced one, you can get better performance at half the price if you go Ryzen, there's a reason apple left Intel, Intel sucks, sucks really bad, choose Ryzen

    • @davidlewis5929
      @davidlewis5929 3 года назад +4

      @@andrescarrasco1248 No Apple left Intel because it was easy to do direct comparisons of Apple v Wintel. Then factor in that Apple doesn't do hardware updates often and you end up with comparisons that have Apple a couple generations behind for the same price.

    • @mbvglider
      @mbvglider 3 года назад +8

      Apple M1 is a pretty amazing low cost desktop option, considering a base model can be bought for $599 at Amazon right now.

    • @davidlewis5929
      @davidlewis5929 3 года назад +1

      @@mbvglider There is no Apple M1 at that price, you are looking at much older Intel based options.

    • @ronaldojoe3011
      @ronaldojoe3011 3 года назад +3

      @@davidlewis5929 The M1 mac mini costs around that price.

  • @palantir135
    @palantir135 3 года назад +6

    I’ll stick to Mac then.
    Final cut works for me.

  •  3 года назад

    Awesome video, thanks for the great laughs hehe :D

  • @cars291
    @cars291 3 года назад +1

    The only metric I find relevant. Excellent guys. I could have saved hours watching inconsequential benchmarks and fanboy talk because this is what it boils down to: doing your everyday workflow.
    Great job..
    Oh and gaming ia a different thing altogether

  • @MrChomiq
    @MrChomiq 3 года назад +5

    Now try to open them up and see what can be serviced by the user.

    • @scb2scb2
      @scb2scb2 3 года назад

      In 2 or 3 years they will all follow apples lead, using mobile tech and more and more integration into 1 SoC packege will take over the lowend, then middle and then even highend systems. upgradable machines will become the exception not the rule moore-law kind of demands things becoming smaller and closer together both on these chips but also for example on camera sensors with stacked designs it just makes design sense.

  • @ronaldojoe3011
    @ronaldojoe3011 3 года назад +3

    I really wish I could get an M1 macbook pro but I was using my friends macbook the other day and it was like trying to write with my left hand.

    • @ronaldojoe3011
      @ronaldojoe3011 3 года назад

      @@RJ-dv5mg I find that iPhones are a lot easier to switch between iPhones to android phones than it is to switch between Mac and windows

  • @MgarrKid
    @MgarrKid 3 года назад

    In the side by side shots, you two remind me of Schwarzeneger and DeVito in Twins, no really the chemistry between you two is increadible! Although I would've thought Chris was the Apple guy while Jordan was the PC fan. Keep the great videos coming!

  • @fayloyan
    @fayloyan 3 года назад +2

    What a coincidence, I was comparing these devices too!

  • @oraziopugliese5613
    @oraziopugliese5613 3 года назад +10

    You could buy 2 iMac m1 at the price of 1 aero 15…
    Or maybe an iMac m1 a second display and a ps5 that’s it.

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo 3 года назад +4

      And how would you take all that on an airplane or to a cafe?

    • @noenken
      @noenken 3 года назад +2

      @@niccollsvideo I mean, even the PS5 would be quiter than your laptop soooo ...

    • @mrGood-84
      @mrGood-84 3 года назад +4

      @@niccollsvideo By getting MacBook m1 air or pro for half price, same performance, 4x better battery and no fan noise.

    • @onewmphoto
      @onewmphoto 3 года назад

      @@niccollsvideo You could buy an M1 iMac *and* a M1 Macbook for less than your Aero.

  • @allynscott1983
    @allynscott1983 3 года назад +6

    Were the Lightroom tests performed with the M1 optimized version that was released a couple of weeks ago?

    • @jc.baptiste
      @jc.baptiste 3 года назад +1

      I was wondering the same. I am pretty sure that not, because I do believe the M1 would blow Intel without the emulation performance hit.

    • @DWaschnig
      @DWaschnig 3 года назад +1

      @@jc.baptiste Yeah thought the same. I have a Ryzen 5900x, rtx 3070 desktop and my Macbook M1 feels a lot smoother in Lightroom

  • @Kamil.SZAPER
    @Kamil.SZAPER 2 года назад

    Great comparison. Can you do it again but with the new MAC M1Pro or Max chips?

  • @robd003
    @robd003 2 года назад +1

    Which version of Davinci Resolve were you using on the M1? I believe only v17.1.1 actually supports M1 natively and all earlier releases are x86_64 binary translations to ARM64.

  • @arxoalex
    @arxoalex 3 года назад +4

    for 1 second i thought Chris's elbows were resting on his knees

  • @darkedgex
    @darkedgex 3 года назад +4

    "Screen recording software impacts the benchmarks" -- so use an Atomos Ninja V and record the screen using that? Shouldn't affect performance.

    • @Connief1990
      @Connief1990 2 года назад

      I've thought about getting that, for capturing Ps4 gameplay. But it is an expensive piece of kit.. 😬

  • @rejiepark
    @rejiepark 3 года назад

    I think a great additional info is the power draw of these machines on idle and while rendering, exporting..

  • @jeydid345
    @jeydid345 2 года назад

    Not to be "that" guy, but I think this video deserves a redo! Updates to native applications could spell a lot of differences. I really love your videos!! Keep being awesome!

  • @ArsenijeRadenovic
    @ArsenijeRadenovic 3 года назад +4

    I was there
    3000 years ago
    When we used to play on arrow keys.

  • @Georgeinthejungle
    @Georgeinthejungle 3 года назад +25

    Not watching until you test a Linux desktop, exclusively editing Pentax files 😤😋😁

    • @AdventuressAli
      @AdventuressAli 3 года назад

      @Chris Sears hahahahaaaa too funny. But also for the first part - same same. I started Pentax and love them for so many reasons ....but.... Video.

    • @Whale_Tale
      @Whale_Tale 3 года назад +1

      Best comment in the thread. Made my day - thanks!

  • @vikramrghanekar
    @vikramrghanekar 3 года назад +1

    Thoroughly enjoyed this video! It would be interesting to compare M1X(?) Macbook Pro (when it comes out) Vs Aero. Plugged and unplugged :-)

  • @ShaneHarderPhoto
    @ShaneHarderPhoto 2 года назад

    Amen to resolve over premiere! So much better. Nice review guys!