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@J Fz Good point lol. I do think Apple will create a specific chip for the Mac Pro with a ton of CPU and GPU cores instead of using separate chips, purely because the performance penalty you’d incur having to deal with latency between multiple dies
hold up - you ordered an M1 for your wife .. and you are considering giving it to her? did you change your mind & decide to keep it yourself right after ordering?
@@AWildBard She's worth it. She's smart, beautiful, and wrangles our three kids while I write code every spare moment. She'll use the computer to develop a homeschooling curriculum. I'm still probably going to be fiddling with it whenever she puts it down!
I want everyone to take a moment and really realise how much intel has been holding apple back and the processor sector back. Finally there is more competition. Also fuck you wayne palmar.
I think they make so much money with these reviews that it’s totally worth it. Would be interesting to know how much, I think it’s more than we can imagine.
The intel Mac Mini has 2TB SSD, bigger the SSD (with data), slower the system will perform, a benchmark with both have 256GB SSD or 512 GB SSD I think, would be better.
It is absolutely disgusting to make video like these. The Intel Mac Mini has 64GB of RAM. For tasks that require a lot of RAM, it will excel. If your tasks can fit inside 16GB of RAM, the Intel CPU cannot match the speed of M1. It is slow comparing with M1 Mac Mini. However, those RAM is needed when the task requires. In that case, it beats the hell out of M1. I do not believe running virtual memory can be faster in M1 Mac than real DRAM. M1 can beat the fastest super computer in the world if you fit a small task withinn 16GB memory footprint. Is a M1 Mac mini faster than than the Fujitsu supercomputer. Can an M1 Mac mini run nuclear bomb explosion simulation?
brought the i7 mac mini in this video in March... hmm.. Thinking upgrade to the m1 even though I don’t really need it. My PA needs a new system, the March mac mini will be more then fine... :D
He'll find out sooner or later. But most Window computers are I3, maybe I5s for about $300~600 with 4~8GB RAM. Yeah, they run like garbage... and that's before the bloatware.
@@sivaram2342 Actually the m1 is 4 cores. But it seems it is about on par with the 16 core xeon in a Mac Pro. Not bad. I don't mind Intel but what Apple has achieved here, in a 13 Watt part mind you, is impressive. They effectively have the fastest CPU on the market right now when you take into consideration the power envelope.
So Steve Jobs had the vision of such a chip, we could have had all this started a decade ago, we would be so far now. Really shows how big tech can cull advancement when profit is their goal.
@@leonro That's still an Intel problem. Their chips run too hot because of how far behind on their road map they've fallen. If they had stayed on schedule, they would probably have had similar lower heat output like the M1 does and there would have never been those overheating Mac issues. Apple made their thinner and thinner Mac designs waiting for those chips and Intel never delivered.
@@VMYeahVN Not an intel problem. If you know that the processor needs 35 Watts, you don't NOT connect the fan to the heatsink. Apple Engineers must have smoked something while working on the previous gen macbooks.
@@itsover9008 It's still an Intel problem. It's not Apples job to hinder their designs because Intel couldn't get their stuff together and put out lower power/more power efficient chips. That's why they're getting ditched in the first place, so Apple can make the products they want to make without compromise.
Because the old mac mini uses i7-8700 , which is the same as bloody hell 6700 from who knows how many years ago, and the same as 9700 and 10700(but with more ghz and heat). "Thanks" fcking intel. AMD's desktop Ryzen 5 5600X with 65w is absolutely destroyed i9 10900K (with 270w)
@@svonegov8199 this dude doesn’t seem to get this is at least 3 gens back lol m1 better fucking win 1 generation between ryzen is a 50% jump lol honestly I’d expect more from all the hype atleast he used cinebench in this review because geekbench is garbage
Apple Dec 2019: This $15,000 Mac Pro can transcode 30 mins of H265 in 30 mins. Apple Nov 2020: This $1,000 Mac Mini can transcode 30 mins of H265 in 13 mins.
@@VyasAnand It can't? My new M1 Mac mini has zero problems transcoding H.265 video at 4K/60fps... Does it as fast as my 16" MacBook Pro. (That older Mac Pro could do it just as fast if it had an Apple Afterburner card, since that includes the same basic transcoding chip that is included in the T2 chip on the Intel MacBook Pro and built in to the M1 chip on the Apple Silicon Mac mini. Of course, that Afterburner card costs as much by itself as the Mac mini does...)
@@drudigger when I have time I will - there is a reason Mac Pros do and still sell - they aren’t dumb. I don’t feel I got ripped of on my Mac Pro 5700 x - I don’t need to prove anything to you. There is not a single reviewer online that has compared it to any Macintosh with a discreet GPU when it comes to rendering. I understand you’ve seen claims I’m telling you I own both of them and I can get 50 to 70 frames per second rendering and I can barely get 15 which is great on the M1 compared to the Intel without a discreet graphics card. If I use an app like neat video I get about 10 to 15 or 20 frames a second with my Mac pro, and under .5 on my am one. And I have a conversation with a neat video team about that exact thing
@@AnonymousFreakYT I don’t have the afterburner card (and no it can’t - you are confusing transcoding and rendering) and RENDERING is not transcoding (yet it plays it back yet if you need to render out nodes and Neat Video or any GPU intensive program the M1 is slow, you don’t need the power and that’s cool, don’t tell us people that do we are wrong) - and using let’s say Neat Video at 4k will bring your system to a crawl. I get 18 FPS with Neat Video and close to 80 FPS with Film Convert. And I can run Final Cut and render that at the same time and use Photoshop. Stop - not the same. Also Flutter and Mobile app development (forget it) - it’s great for a on board GPU, That’s all
@@MaxTechOfficial I mean, the amount of research and testing you guys do is simply OUTSTANDING! This is just a little hiccup compared with what you are doing to bring us this insanely useful information about this M1 Macs! Hope you guys break the 500k subs mark (and then some) very soon!
@@NineOneOneFx Thank you! We've been working like crazy lately pumping out these long detailed videos. Sucks to see a few editing mistakes but we'll try to do better :)
Definitely one of the top Mac Reviews I have ever watched in the last 20+ years. Detailed, great comparison charts - and explained clearly for both professional users and people like myself who have used Macs since 1989 - but don’t pretend to be an expert!!! Great job - I’ll be subscribing and looking for other videos from you!! Staying with my i7 Intel Mac Mini for another year- hoping to see 4 Thunderbolt 3 ports on a 2021 or 2022 M1, M1x or M2 Mac MINI by then!
Great video! Wow man, I'm even thinking this M1 Mac Mini might actually perform better in Final Cut than my Core i9 iMac! Would love to see this comparison as well! Keep up the great work!
@@joyboy6535 Don't worry Max or Vadim would be doing it soon 😁, As I saw the Geekbench 5 scores it just bet every mac in single core, in multi core it was behind only to the Mac Pro, iMac pro and 5k iMac, and 16 MBP, this is just awesome and it's the most affordable one so it's the best 🙏
1. This video was exactly what I was looking for. Thank you for uploading this and going into such great detail. 2. Your edit for the end of the video to shrink so the links wouldn’t cover your video was PERFECT! It was always so annoying when the links would obscure whatever was on the screen and your edit was greatly appreciated!
This just goes to show that Intel wasn’t even trying to build a better cpu because they had basically no competition. Good thing Apple dropped them, maybe now intel will up their game.
@@Tapeorchestraa AMD was always best for balance of power and cost, while Intel for max power. This changed with Ryzens, their are the beasts. And now Apple Silicon😹
Precisely Intel has been caught slacking due to lack of competition over the last decade however, things have changed over past 2 years with AMD & now Apple. Great for us consumers, more competition means more competitive pricing and performance!
Thanks so much for doing a comparison of video editing performance with an eGPU in the mix. Few others have done this, and no one has done it as well as you have. Not being able to run 3 monitors (without a workaround) and not supporting an eGPU (which I already use in my video editing setup), is what has stopped me jumping into the M1 so far. The performance of the M1 against the Intel + eGPU in your tests is nothing short of mind blowing. However, I think I'm going to hang in the wings for eGPU and multi-monitor support (no doubt it's coming), but thanks again for this great content.
I almost purchased that exact same intel based Mac Mini until the good folks on the Mac Mini subreddit convinced me to switch to the M1. I get my M1 Mac Mini 16GB 1TB machine today and this video gave me a huge boost in consumer confidence. Thanks for putting together this mind blowing VS video!!
I was just about to pull the trigger on a Mac mini thinking that if Apple was going with Apple Silicon there would be major issues or the performance wouldn't be there. Now I'm willing to wait until next year to see what they are going to do with the iMacs.
It's now the end of Feb. 2021, and I'd like to know how an M1 Mini handles non-Final Cut tasks, like heavy lifting in Photoshop or Premiere Pro, or CAD drawings.
How cow! I am impressed! It looks like the new integrated chip architecture might be disrupting not only the Intel world, but also the eGPU market as well! I would love to see you run these same comparisons using DaVinci Resolve 17 (M1), and perhaps even Blender as well!
Lets not overreact, even though i have a M1 mini 16GB already, and a 2020 ipad Pro, i still prefer to use my 2018 MBP i7 16GB most of the time, great display, no performance issues, its a great laptop still. My daughter got a 2011 MBP i7 that i upgraded with more ram and a good SSD, does everything she need it to do for leisure, school and online classes without any issues, ever. Macbooks age but dont go obsolete.
@@liesdamnlies3372 That's such a flimsy argument. You do know that most laptops are replaced completely every 4.5 yesrs right? Corporate issued laptops are completely replaced every 3 years.
Super stoked you did this comparison. I have been wanting to know how this would perform as a desktop...since everyone has been only reviewing the laptops.
in fairness, their Ice Lake and Tiger Lake CPUs have much better GPUs. You can find those in the early 2020 MBP and MBA (well, Ice Lake anyway). The 14nm Intel CPUs still used their horrifically bad iGPUs, but that's a huge problem for a high performance machine because their 14nm CPUs are still the fastest. It's a very damned if you do, damned if you don't situation with Intel.
@@alematv4772 No, but it's a little lame that Apple won't let me install my own hard drive after buying a 256gb model because I couldn't afford the 512 or 1tb models.
The reason why the M1 is so powerful for video editing is due to a few HW features 1 large number of dedicated HW matrix multiplication and barrelshifters. 2. Heterogeneous Unified Memory, (not to be confused with regular UMA) 3. Real wide execution capacity.
If these base models can outperform the top end, I wonder how the higher end Mac minis with the M1X or whatever name it has, will perform. Apple has really improved their macs with the transition .
That's what has me really excited. If this is what the entry level Apple chip in th entry level Macs are doing, the higher end ones are going to absolutely melt our minds, and my body is so ready.
Exactly, I'm not even sure any current X86 cpus will be able to keep up. Its going to be either you buy a new threadripper or just get our new imac pro. that is three times as powerful, costs less and uses a 10th of the watts.
There have already been some rumors circulating the interwebs about the M1X having 8 high performance and 4 high-efficiency cores. If these rumors pan out, we can expect Geekbench multicore results to definitely be higher than 12k and maybe even 13k. That would be BONKERS!
@@DanielTiecher wow @_@, apple is no longer that person who overprice stuff. They're delivering real power efficiency and high performance now with their own silicon chip @_@
intel mac is like me trying really hard in gym class, working up a sweat, and still not being able to keep up m1 mac is like the star athlete in gym class, effortlessly doing better than everyone else
I mean, there are still concerns with the platform. Multitasking and BSD-based kernels aren't very nice bedfellows, so there's obvious limitations with 16 gigs of memory and having multiple windows up. Especially in a world where we're using more and more web technologies, 16 gigs won't run the same way in a few years, especially on a system that prioritizes uncompressed memory and encourages users to idle programs. That's all without mentioning the ethical concerns: Like Windows, MacOS is closed source. Since Apple is in kahoots with the NSA, it can be pretty safely inferred that all of their encryption features backdoor keys (which has to be the case, since Macs encrypt lots of data that gets magically turned over to the police, 18,000 times a year. From a technical standpoint, It's really not even that impressive either. Apple was the first to release on 5nm, which is cool, but if you know anything about die size, it's only going to get worse for M1 owners as time goes on. Most manufacturers are probably waiting for 5nm+ to actually start minting devices on. The downsides of the process are pretty apparent, too: Apple is forced to bin a significant number of the chips that they do make, presumably saving them for lower-performance devices. Really, the most impressive thing is that MacOS even runs on ARM: the Darwin kernel is built on cruft and zombie code, so the fact that a new architecture actually works with it is something of a small miracle. Plus, what the M1 has in performance is entirely lacked in the I/O department: it has less I/O bandwidth than my 10 year old Thinkpad, which is disheartening, to say the least. Don't even make me drag AMD in here, the 4800u is both cheaper and faster than the M1 in almost every way, and comes on a well supported "legacy" chipset. And the future of Mac? It's not so certain these days. Hackers have found exploits in Apple's own Thunderbolt technology that allows attackers to dump memory at the drop of a hat, basically the holy grail of physical attacks. Apple's commitment to open source has basically fell through, too. After 4 years of promising to at least document APFS for developers, they've come up empty. More and more of the Darwin kernel is going closed source, while newer MacOS versions will bypass VPNs and route data through third party servers. iCloud's security is now worst-in-class, shadowing their slipping quality control. Apple fights the Right to Repair movement at every corner, serializing and obfuscating their hardware and software with the sole intention of dissuading small businesses from repairing their products. Apples future is dimmer than a 13 watt bulb TL:DR - Apple haters aren't silent, we're letting you enjoy things while they last =)
Excellent comparison. I love that he took the full potential of the older mac mini vs the M1 model. Many of us would consider upgrading ram or incorporating an eGPU in lieu of jumping for the M1 just yet. One thing for music production that concerns me: It should be noted that the Logic Pro benchmark here only dealt with max track count. With a limit of 16gb of ram on the M1 there could be substantial performance loss when running large sample libraries like Hollywood Strings or Spitfire compared to the older Macs. I currently run the same 64gb setup in the video, specifically for handling these insane libraries. Also, an eGPU can significantly improve the performance of logic pro on the intel based macs (apparently mostly on Mojave). Again, track count alone is not representative of this performance increase. I would be curious as to see how a more 'real world' example of the M1 vs Intel Mac mini w/ eGpu compares in Logic Pro, where there are heavy use of power-hungry plug-ins, sample libraries, and virtual instruments all being midi triggered and automated in a 64 track session. A good test would be zooming in/out, record-arming different tracks, opening different plugin windows, and tweaking these plugins, all in real-time as this heavy session is playing back. This type of behavior can easily overload a powerful system, and is more true to life. So the question is how much the limited ram of the M1 and lack of eGpu support offsets its powerful cpu architecture in this scenario, compared to the above intel-mac w/ eGpu and much more ram. Regardless, there's no doubt the M1 is killer for the price/performance ratio. I think once Apple gets more ram in these bad boys, they'll be unstoppable.
And here I was, going to build a Windows based computer for surfing and photo editing.... now I'm leaning to just purchasing an M1 and having to wonder if my build will work with no issues. Thanks for a great video!!!
No the age of x86 is not over for a while - it's wedded to way too much "legacy" software. But for certain M1 has further exposed the inefficiencies of CISC along with its decades of cruft and the RISC-like work arounds that can't save x86. This is just the beginning of SOCs, unified memory and optimized/dedicated cores, especially as more developers take advantage of Apple's TensorFlow (machine learning), etc.
@@anthonycolombo5889 Yeah I agree it will take a while but the writing is on the wall. If apple's experiment with ARM turns to be a big seller I think it will force MS to put more resources into updating its own windows arm OS. OEM manufacturers will follow suit with hardware and then the software development community shortly thereafter. From the reviews and benchmarks I have seen from other channels it appears that the M1 is going to be a hit. You can now get a laptop that is ~$1k and has the power of laptops costing over twice as much and sips battery power.
@@mdogzino Yeah AMD is doing great things with it. I love AMD, I just hope that they are working on alternatives to x86 though. They have managed to reduce energy usage in their latest chips while consuming less power than intel. But that pales in comparison to the energy draw of ARM architecture I'm just thinking of what a threadripper ARM chip could do..
8:33 Max thers a mistake on screen it shows " max xcode benchmark" and you are talking about web browsing, I think this happened some ten seconds ago too not sure 😁😁
Intel passed on mobile silicon, when Apple asked. Apple made its own! (with a bit of help - ARM). CISC vs RISC - all over again? fast "mobile" vs dinosaurs!
Yeah I'm getting an M1 mac mini to replace my aging iMac. The performance difference is mind blowing! I sure do appreciate the amount of work put into this video! really good stuff!
Thank you 🙏. I was on the fence whether to purchase the mini or book pro. I’m now excitedly waiting on the mini to be delivered in a few weeks. I appreciate your in depth reviews especially when it comes to video editing on FCP and using 422 10 bit etc.
Max, could you please upload you Xcode project test online so everybody could also use it in their comparisons? That way it can become the standard Xcode test for everyone else (like BruceX or Logic tests you’re using in your videos).
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8:35 bruh u put wrong stats instead of speedometer u put Xcode @Max Tech
8:38 wrong benchmark
I do not think the M1 Mini has 10gb Ethernet (nevermind you corrected your self but the slide it wrong :() GREAT video though!
Run web.basemark.com on them!
IYI ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
M1 🥳🥳🥳
The untold cost of Apple Silicon is that you have to buy a space heater to make up for the Intel processor not warming your room anymore.
haha true!
Lmao
😂
Damn, they're already dead bro, stop kicking it
@J Fz Good point lol. I do think Apple will create a specific chip for the Mac Pro with a ton of CPU and GPU cores instead of using separate chips, purely because the performance penalty you’d incur having to deal with latency between multiple dies
I ordered an M1 Air for my wife for Christmas. I might even give it to her.
is your wife single?
hold up - you ordered an M1 for your wife .. and you are considering giving it to her? did you change your mind & decide to keep it yourself right after ordering?
@@chinarut No, not really. I'm holding out for a MBP 16" with whatever monster SOC they put in it. Can't wait.
lol
considerate and generous
@@AWildBard She's worth it. She's smart, beautiful, and wrangles our three kids while I write code every spare moment. She'll use the computer to develop a homeschooling curriculum. I'm still probably going to be fiddling with it whenever she puts it down!
I want everyone to take a moment here and really appreciate the extent of your work and testing...really thanks :D
Yes, I am sure that was a ton of work.
not complaining, but there are mistakes at 8:40 (you put the slide for xcode when talking about web browsing performance)
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I want everyone to take a moment and really realise how much intel has been holding apple back and the processor sector back. Finally there is more competition. Also fuck you wayne palmar.
I think they make so much money with these reviews that it’s totally worth it. Would be interesting to know how much, I think it’s more than we can imagine.
The M1 made the Intel processor look like an abacus.
imagine just two or three years down the line from this first-gen m1...
@@zaphenath6756 I am thinking next year :) Two or three years is too far.
The intel Mac Mini has 2TB SSD, bigger the SSD (with data), slower the system will perform, a benchmark with both have 256GB SSD or 512 GB SSD I think, would be better.
Yup, Intel have been caught slacking by both AMD & now Apple.
It is absolutely disgusting to make video like these. The Intel Mac Mini has 64GB of RAM. For tasks that require a lot of RAM, it will excel. If your tasks can fit inside 16GB of RAM, the Intel CPU cannot match the speed of M1. It is slow comparing with M1 Mac Mini. However, those RAM is needed when the task requires. In that case, it beats the hell out of M1. I do not believe running virtual memory can be faster in M1 Mac than real DRAM. M1 can beat the fastest super computer in the world if you fit a small task withinn 16GB memory footprint. Is a M1 Mac mini faster than than the Fujitsu supercomputer. Can an M1 Mac mini run nuclear bomb explosion simulation?
Rofl! My dad just bought the Intel version back in october this year. I don't think I will be sharing this video with him.
feels bad, man...
brought the i7 mac mini in this video in March... hmm.. Thinking upgrade to the m1 even though I don’t really need it. My PA needs a new system, the March mac mini will be more then fine... :D
CRAZY REACTION VIDEO! Watch this man kick his son out of the family will for sharing a youtube video!
He'll find out sooner or later. But most Window computers are I3, maybe I5s for about $300~600 with 4~8GB RAM. Yeah, they run like garbage... and that's before the bloatware.
😜
we finally discovered how slow the cpu intel was.....
And how fast m1 is
@@sivaram2342 M1 is 4 big 4 small cores. More akin to a 4C/8T intel chip whereas the i7 8700 is 6C/12T.
@@sivaram2342 ARM vs X86
Really?
@@sivaram2342 Actually the m1 is 4 cores. But it seems it is about on par with the 16 core xeon in a Mac Pro. Not bad. I don't mind Intel but what Apple has achieved here, in a 13 Watt part mind you, is impressive. They effectively have the fastest CPU on the market right now when you take into consideration the power envelope.
So Steve Jobs had the vision of such a chip, we could have had all this started a decade ago, we would be so far now. Really shows how big tech can cull advancement when profit is their goal.
Intel's new architecture : coffin lake💀
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😃😆😂🤣
lol
Intel Inside ™
Bottom of lake!
So, Apple just proved that their Macs don’t suck. It’s Intel that suck, and drags their reputation down every year.
Macs also suck in thermal dissipation for a lot of models, it's just that Apple's chips don't use that much power so it's not a problem now.
@@leonro That's still an Intel problem. Their chips run too hot because of how far behind on their road map they've fallen. If they had stayed on schedule, they would probably have had similar lower heat output like the M1 does and there would have never been those overheating Mac issues. Apple made their thinner and thinner Mac designs waiting for those chips and Intel never delivered.
@@VMYeahVN Not an intel problem. If you know that the processor needs 35 Watts, you don't NOT connect the fan to the heatsink. Apple Engineers must have smoked something while working on the previous gen macbooks.
@@itsover9008 It's still an Intel problem. It's not Apples job to hinder their designs because Intel couldn't get their stuff together and put out lower power/more power efficient chips. That's why they're getting ditched in the first place, so Apple can make the products they want to make without compromise.
@@VMYeahVN Is that why Asus and Dell make better laptops?
Imagine a Mac Pro with Apple Silicon? You can't? That's because this matrix is running on one of them.
Lol
Best comment ever lol
smarty pants!
As someone else on RUclips said, the future Apple Silicon machines are going to break the space-time continuum.
You can build the tesseract in Interstellar with that
The 315 dislikes are from Intel.
i like those the most... LOL
Destroying an i3 was good enough but never expected M1 will destroy a i7 too.
All Apple had to do was beat the i3 with less power. Instead they beat the i3 to death and then used it's body to kill the i7.
@J Fz "Just more cores" is all the difference. It's the reason AMD is crushing intel and now Apple Silicon is kicking its corpse.
@J Fz People won't care about Intel either. After using Ryzen and M1 they also move on.
Because the old mac mini uses i7-8700 , which is the same as bloody hell 6700 from who knows how many years ago, and the same as 9700 and 10700(but with more ghz and heat). "Thanks" fcking intel.
AMD's desktop Ryzen 5 5600X with 65w is absolutely destroyed i9 10900K (with 270w)
@@svonegov8199 this dude doesn’t seem to get this is at least 3 gens back lol m1 better fucking win 1 generation between ryzen is a 50% jump lol honestly I’d expect more from all the hype atleast he used cinebench in this review because geekbench is garbage
Apple Dec 2019: This $15,000 Mac Pro can transcode 30 mins of H265 in 30 mins.
Apple Nov 2020: This $1,000 Mac Mini can transcode 30 mins of H265 in 13 mins.
No it cant render it out - I have them both. It simply can’t
@@VyasAnand It can't? My new M1 Mac mini has zero problems transcoding H.265 video at 4K/60fps... Does it as fast as my 16" MacBook Pro.
(That older Mac Pro could do it just as fast if it had an Apple Afterburner card, since that includes the same basic transcoding chip that is included in the T2 chip on the Intel MacBook Pro and built in to the M1 chip on the Apple Silicon Mac mini. Of course, that Afterburner card costs as much by itself as the Mac mini does...)
@@VyasAnand Post some proof? Ive only seen claims of the opposite.
@@drudigger when I have time I will - there is a reason Mac Pros do and still sell - they aren’t dumb. I don’t feel I got ripped of on my Mac Pro 5700 x - I don’t need to prove anything to you. There is not a single reviewer online that has compared it to any Macintosh with a discreet GPU when it comes to rendering. I understand you’ve seen claims I’m telling you I own both of them and I can get 50 to 70 frames per second rendering and I can barely get 15 which is great on the M1 compared to the Intel without a discreet graphics card. If I use an app like neat video I get about 10 to 15 or 20 frames a second with my Mac pro, and under .5 on my am one. And I have a conversation with a neat video team about that exact thing
@@AnonymousFreakYT I don’t have the afterburner card (and no it can’t - you are confusing transcoding and rendering) and RENDERING is not transcoding (yet it plays it back yet if you need to render out nodes and Neat Video or any GPU intensive program the M1 is slow, you don’t need the power and that’s cool, don’t tell us people that do we are wrong) - and using let’s say Neat Video at 4k will bring your system to a crawl. I get 18 FPS with Neat Video and close to 80 FPS with Film Convert. And I can run Final Cut and render that at the same time and use Photoshop. Stop - not the same. Also Flutter and Mobile app development (forget it) - it’s great for a on board GPU, That’s all
0:57 ... Hi Max! There's a typo there... Mac Mini M1 is 1 Gigabit Ethernet. Great content as usual!
Oh no editing mistake :( Same with 512TB SSD lol. I wish! especially at those prices!
@@MaxTechOfficial I mean, the amount of research and testing you guys do is simply OUTSTANDING! This is just a little hiccup compared with what you are doing to bring us this insanely useful information about this M1 Macs! Hope you guys break the 500k subs mark (and then some) very soon!
@@NineOneOneFx Thank you! We've been working like crazy lately pumping out these long detailed videos. Sucks to see a few editing mistakes but we'll try to do better :)
Apple does list the Mac Mini with 10gbit as a part in their inventory (but that's probably also a copy paste mistake)
@@HenkPoley Hi Henk! That gotta be the Intel Mac Mini, not the M1.
Definitely one of the top Mac Reviews I have ever watched in the last 20+ years. Detailed, great comparison charts - and explained clearly for both professional users and people like myself who have used Macs since 1989 - but don’t pretend to be an expert!!! Great job - I’ll be subscribing and looking for other videos from you!! Staying with my i7 Intel Mac Mini for another year- hoping to see 4 Thunderbolt 3 ports on a 2021 or 2022 M1, M1x or M2 Mac MINI by then!
There is now the M2 Pro Mac Mini with 4 Thunderbolt ports
Great video! Wow man, I'm even thinking this M1 Mac Mini might actually perform better in Final Cut than my Core i9 iMac! Would love to see this comparison as well! Keep up the great work!
Man I am your really a big fan of yours you deserve more for all the hard work you do . Keep it up man 👍👍
He IS faster...
@@anuragkumarsah5819 Thanks bro! Appreciate it!
Haha Linus did a video on it and the power of the M1 Mac mini smoked the core i9 iMac
imagine a m1 imac
Mac Mini M1 is just Insane 😍
"It is just absolutely insane." He likes to say that a lot! ;)
Imagine the macs with integrated graphics card🔥🔥
Yh but can it compete against 5k iMac damn wish someone would do a test comparison
@@joyboy6535 Don't worry Max or Vadim would be doing it soon 😁, As I saw the Geekbench 5 scores it just bet every mac in single core, in multi core it was behind only to the Mac Pro, iMac pro and 5k iMac, and 16 MBP, this is just awesome and it's the most affordable one so it's the best 🙏
@@AnshishRay 🔥🔥🔥😁
You guys are legends! I don't even watch other mac reviews anymore. Your tests are the most comprehensive among job tech RUclipsrs!
Amen
1. This video was exactly what I was looking for. Thank you for uploading this and going into such great detail.
2. Your edit for the end of the video to shrink so the links wouldn’t cover your video was PERFECT! It was always so annoying when the links would obscure whatever was on the screen and your edit was greatly appreciated!
"stop! Stop! STOP!! It's already dead!!!!"
This just goes to show that Intel wasn’t even trying to build a better cpu because they had basically no competition. Good thing Apple dropped them, maybe now intel will up their game.
But they had AMD as competition and AMD is indeed better than intel too
@Vince true
@@Tapeorchestraa AMD was always best for balance of power and cost, while Intel for max power. This changed with Ryzens, their are the beasts. And now Apple Silicon😹
@@Tapeorchestraa is
Precisely Intel has been caught slacking due to lack of competition over the last decade however, things have changed over past 2 years with AMD & now Apple.
Great for us consumers, more competition means more competitive pricing and performance!
this is the most detailed video on youtube
this channel feels like it gets you what's on your mind
Finally, someone compared it. This video sold me on the M1.
This is the video I was waiting for.
Thanks for waiting and watching!
Agreed
Thanks so much for doing a comparison of video editing performance with an eGPU in the mix. Few others have done this, and no one has done it as well as you have. Not being able to run 3 monitors (without a workaround) and not supporting an eGPU (which I already use in my video editing setup), is what has stopped me jumping into the M1 so far. The performance of the M1 against the Intel + eGPU in your tests is nothing short of mind blowing. However, I think I'm going to hang in the wings for eGPU and multi-monitor support (no doubt it's coming), but thanks again for this great content.
I almost purchased that exact same intel based Mac Mini until the good folks on the Mac Mini subreddit convinced me to switch to the M1. I get my M1 Mac Mini 16GB 1TB machine today and this video gave me a huge boost in consumer confidence. Thanks for putting together this mind blowing VS video!!
How’s your experience so far? I was shopping and confused between the Mac Mini M1 or M2 with the same specs you mentioned or MacBook Pro!
It’s official: M1 stands for M1nd blowing 🤯
RIP to everyone who bought any Intel Mac in the past months.
I would be so freakin’ upset if I just dropped $3K+ on an intel Mac in the last 12 months.
I was just about to pull the trigger on a Mac mini thinking that if Apple was going with Apple Silicon there would be major issues or the performance wouldn't be there. Now I'm willing to wait until next year to see what they are going to do with the iMacs.
im one of those people 🤦♂️
barefeats.com/m1-macbook-pro-versus-intel-egpu.html
@@Streamlined955 yeah that's me back in January. Seriously considering selling my 5k iMac now.
The amount of money you're saving on Electricity with the M1 VS Intel + eGPU is insane.
It’s official: M1 stands for M1nd blowing 🤯
Your home isn’t solar powered?
STONKS
@@rzu7120 Solid State battery for an easy store of electricity
not a lot on a small scale but big on the big scale
It's now the end of Feb. 2021, and I'd like to know how an M1 Mini handles non-Final Cut tasks, like heavy lifting in Photoshop or Premiere Pro, or CAD drawings.
How cow! I am impressed! It looks like the new integrated chip architecture might be disrupting not only the Intel world, but also the eGPU market as well! I would love to see you run these same comparisons using DaVinci Resolve 17 (M1), and perhaps even Blender as well!
Guys, I appreciate you creating content lightning fast, like lots of videos about in-demand content. Just thank you 🙏
"There's a new sheriff in town!"
My imac has 5 years old but it would be old even if it were 15 days old
Lets not overreact, even though i have a M1 mini 16GB already, and a 2020 ipad Pro, i still prefer to use my 2018 MBP i7 16GB most of the time, great display, no performance issues, its a great laptop still. My daughter got a 2011 MBP i7 that i upgraded with more ram and a good SSD, does everything she need it to do for leisure, school and online classes without any issues, ever. Macbooks age but dont go obsolete.
Wow, I never thought I'd see a Mac that's actually worth more than the asking price.
Just don’t buy ram and storage upgrades from Apple and this statement stays true.
No if you are going to buy m1 you can't upgrade it by yourself
@@zainmuzaffar5986 how many people upgrade their laptops 2 years later? For laptops, M1 is a steal.
@@syrupybrandy2788 um...people who reduce waste.
@@liesdamnlies3372 That's such a flimsy argument. You do know that most laptops are replaced completely every 4.5 yesrs right? Corporate issued laptops are completely replaced every 3 years.
Well glad I watched this. I have my Mac mini with 16 GB coming next week. Now I’m even more excited. Thanks! Great review.
Super stoked you did this comparison. I have been wanting to know how this would perform as a desktop...since everyone has been only reviewing the laptops.
This performance brings tears to my eyes
Imagine in five years from now, how much power these machines will have and of course in a minimal design and low cost. JUST INSANE
This is an absolute embarrassment for Intel's integrated graphics chips. Turn off the lights, go home, it's over.
in fairness, their Ice Lake and Tiger Lake CPUs have much better GPUs. You can find those in the early 2020 MBP and MBA (well, Ice Lake anyway). The 14nm Intel CPUs still used their horrifically bad iGPUs, but that's a huge problem for a high performance machine because their 14nm CPUs are still the fastest. It's a very damned if you do, damned if you don't situation with Intel.
@ Definitely not
It’s been a couple of years, Intel having nothing but embarrassment ... although 11th gen is a little OK!
@ I hope because it looks like the fate of the Inter windows depends on it ... unless they decide to except AMD
@ first apples's attempt is way better than intel's last attempt
Finally people showing some love to music producers. Big thank you💞
The exact comparison I've been looking for. Got an Intel-based one and was cutting close to the return date. This helped. Many thanks.
Comparing Apples to Apples.
Comparing red apples to green apples to be more specific
I’m impressed at how well apple implemented this on day one. I was expecting all kinds of software to be buggin
No they do it since first iphone released 2007
Max Tech's review is the one of the most thorough Apple M1 review! Great job!
This is one of the best comparison video I’ve watched so far. Thanks for being so thorough. ☺️
We are witnessing a before and after in computers with the M1. I can't even imagine what the M2 will bring us!
Hopefully replaceable SSD because that's the weakest link.
@@helloukw dont worry because of the swap usage the ssd will not die that fast
these rumours are all fake
Speaking from 2022. M2 haven't brought any noticeable.
@@alematv4772 No, but it's a little lame that Apple won't let me install my own hard drive after buying a 256gb model because I couldn't afford the 512 or 1tb models.
@@CRACKBONE7317 you should’ve saved the money for the one you really wanted
You are doing so much efforts to make this detailed comparisons
Much appreciated bro 👌🏼👌🏼
This is the most comprehensive review of the M1 Mac Mini on the internet👏🏾
I guess intel should change their brand tagline from "Intel inside" to "Intel outside"
🤣
Yeah because all power comes from external gpu
Nice, i have considering a Hackintosh, but now i go to mini M1 for sure!
The reason why the M1 is so powerful for video editing is due to a few HW features
1 large number of dedicated HW matrix multiplication and barrelshifters.
2. Heterogeneous Unified Memory, (not to be confused with regular UMA)
3. Real wide execution capacity.
You’d have to be insane to buy an intel mac now
Very sage words bro👍
If these base models can outperform the top end, I wonder how the higher end Mac minis with the M1X or whatever name it has, will perform. Apple has really improved their macs with the transition .
That's what has me really excited. If this is what the entry level Apple chip in th entry level Macs are doing, the higher end ones are going to absolutely melt our minds, and my body is so ready.
Exactly, I'm not even sure any current X86 cpus will be able to keep up. Its going to be either you buy a new threadripper or just get our new imac pro. that is three times as powerful, costs less and uses a 10th of the watts.
There have already been some rumors circulating the interwebs about the M1X having 8 high performance and 4 high-efficiency cores. If these rumors pan out, we can expect Geekbench multicore results to definitely be higher than 12k and maybe even 13k. That would be BONKERS!
@@DanielTiecher yeah that would be awesome. As Tim Apple said Macs will be great again!
@@DanielTiecher wow @_@, apple is no longer that person who overprice stuff. They're delivering real power efficiency and high performance now with their own silicon chip @_@
M1 also saves your electricity *bill* 👨💻🤯
True but you need to increase your room heater bill
@@lifeok6188 🤣🤣
Is it like $5/month? That is actually alot.
@@lifeok6188 lmao
@@lifeok6188 Or save on the AC bill.
Imagine how the apple silicon imac pro is going to perform.
Imagine the Mac Pro
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It will become self-aware and kill us all!
Ma'an! I'm getting the mini next week but I'll be buying something portable next year
This would be the « Terminator « M1X
Thanks for doing this video - really cool to see the side-by-side comparison!
8:44 there is a mistake you showed the results of Xcode in place speedometer 2.0 btw great video as usual.
Sorry we've been working like crazy lately pumping out these long detailed videos. We'll try to do better!
@@MaxTechOfficial Just can't get the youtubers theses days... ;)
intel mac is like me trying really hard in gym class, working up a sweat, and still not being able to keep up
m1 mac is like the star athlete in gym class, effortlessly doing better than everyone else
Can you hear it? The silence of all apple haters? Isn't it amazing?
@Ishan Pandey boom💥
Quiz: What‘s more silent? Apple haters or the M1 chip while rendering out a 8K ProRes export? 🧐🤪
Leaving comment here to keep up with the drama,
I mean, there are still concerns with the platform. Multitasking and BSD-based kernels aren't very nice bedfellows, so there's obvious limitations with 16 gigs of memory and having multiple windows up. Especially in a world where we're using more and more web technologies, 16 gigs won't run the same way in a few years, especially on a system that prioritizes uncompressed memory and encourages users to idle programs. That's all without mentioning the ethical concerns: Like Windows, MacOS is closed source. Since Apple is in kahoots with the NSA, it can be pretty safely inferred that all of their encryption features backdoor keys (which has to be the case, since Macs encrypt lots of data that gets magically turned over to the police, 18,000 times a year.
From a technical standpoint, It's really not even that impressive either. Apple was the first to release on 5nm, which is cool, but if you know anything about die size, it's only going to get worse for M1 owners as time goes on. Most manufacturers are probably waiting for 5nm+ to actually start minting devices on. The downsides of the process are pretty apparent, too: Apple is forced to bin a significant number of the chips that they do make, presumably saving them for lower-performance devices. Really, the most impressive thing is that MacOS even runs on ARM: the Darwin kernel is built on cruft and zombie code, so the fact that a new architecture actually works with it is something of a small miracle. Plus, what the M1 has in performance is entirely lacked in the I/O department: it has less I/O bandwidth than my 10 year old Thinkpad, which is disheartening, to say the least. Don't even make me drag AMD in here, the 4800u is both cheaper and faster than the M1 in almost every way, and comes on a well supported "legacy" chipset.
And the future of Mac? It's not so certain these days. Hackers have found exploits in Apple's own Thunderbolt technology that allows attackers to dump memory at the drop of a hat, basically the holy grail of physical attacks. Apple's commitment to open source has basically fell through, too. After 4 years of promising to at least document APFS for developers, they've come up empty. More and more of the Darwin kernel is going closed source, while newer MacOS versions will bypass VPNs and route data through third party servers. iCloud's security is now worst-in-class, shadowing their slipping quality control. Apple fights the Right to Repair movement at every corner, serializing and obfuscating their hardware and software with the sole intention of dissuading small businesses from repairing their products. Apples future is dimmer than a 13 watt bulb
TL:DR - Apple haters aren't silent, we're letting you enjoy things while they last =)
@@dial2616 nah, most of what you're saying is baseless and without source,
Excellent comparison. I love that he took the full potential of the older mac mini vs the M1 model. Many of us would consider upgrading ram or incorporating an eGPU in lieu of jumping for the M1 just yet. One thing for music production that concerns me: It should be noted that the Logic Pro benchmark here only dealt with max track count. With a limit of 16gb of ram on the M1 there could be substantial performance loss when running large sample libraries like Hollywood Strings or Spitfire compared to the older Macs. I currently run the same 64gb setup in the video, specifically for handling these insane libraries. Also, an eGPU can significantly improve the performance of logic pro on the intel based macs (apparently mostly on Mojave). Again, track count alone is not representative of this performance increase. I would be curious as to see how a more 'real world' example of the M1 vs Intel Mac mini w/ eGpu compares in Logic Pro, where there are heavy use of power-hungry plug-ins, sample libraries, and virtual instruments all being midi triggered and automated in a 64 track session. A good test would be zooming in/out, record-arming different tracks, opening different plugin windows, and tweaking these plugins, all in real-time as this heavy session is playing back. This type of behavior can easily overload a powerful system, and is more true to life. So the question is how much the limited ram of the M1 and lack of eGpu support offsets its powerful cpu architecture in this scenario, compared to the above intel-mac w/ eGpu and much more ram. Regardless, there's no doubt the M1 is killer for the price/performance ratio. I think once Apple gets more ram in these bad boys, they'll be unstoppable.
And here I was, going to build a Windows based computer for surfing and photo editing.... now I'm leaning to just purchasing an M1 and having to wonder if my build will work with no issues. Thanks for a great video!!!
Great series of tests, this is more or less exactly what I was looking for.
The scary part about the M1 is that it's apples first attempt. Imagine what an M2X will do. I think the age of X86 is dead.
Don't blame x86, blame intel for doing nothing for the past 10 years.
X86 is not dead, d is still doing some amazing stuff with the architecture
No the age of x86 is not over for a while - it's wedded to way too much "legacy" software. But for certain M1 has further exposed the inefficiencies of CISC along with its decades of cruft and the RISC-like work arounds that can't save x86. This is just the beginning of SOCs, unified memory and optimized/dedicated cores, especially as more developers take advantage of Apple's TensorFlow (machine learning), etc.
@@anthonycolombo5889 Yeah I agree it will take a while but the writing is on the wall. If apple's experiment with ARM turns to be a big seller I think it will force MS to put more resources into updating its own windows arm OS. OEM manufacturers will follow suit with hardware and then the software development community shortly thereafter.
From the reviews and benchmarks I have seen from other channels it appears that the M1 is going to be a hit. You can now get a laptop that is ~$1k and has the power of laptops costing over twice as much and sips battery power.
@@mdogzino Yeah AMD is doing great things with it. I love AMD, I just hope that they are working on alternatives to x86 though. They have managed to reduce energy usage in their latest chips while consuming less power than intel. But that pales in comparison to the energy draw of ARM architecture
I'm just thinking of what a threadripper ARM chip could do..
8:33
Max thers a mistake on screen it shows " max xcode benchmark" and you are talking about web browsing, I think this happened some ten seconds ago too not sure 😁😁
1:06 There is no 10 GBit Ethernet for the M1 yet.
Right!
And there won’t be.
Add the dongle to the thunderbolt
Good video as always. Weird tho that the minis are on different sides, with you on camera vs when plugged into the monitors
Intel: "I started the thin and light devices."
Apple: "and I finished it."
Lol😅😅😅
Intel passed on mobile silicon, when Apple asked.
Apple made its own! (with a bit of help - ARM).
CISC vs RISC - all over again?
fast "mobile" vs dinosaurs!
its somehow better with " and i took that personally" but ok.....still works tho
Thank you very much Max, this was eye-opening
I benefit a lot from your videos, thank you
That’s insane results! Thank you for making these many tests.
This is really a great video showing the difference. Thanks for creating it.
"Intel" 1968-2020
I was thinking about the same, today.
A minute silence for Intel's past legacy
Been waiting for this! I've been deciding whether I should get the M1 Mac Mini or the Intel i7 Mac Mini, finally gonna figure it out now!
2:06 512TB SSD for $1500, Apple got some value going
I ordered M1 mini 16gb memory right after watching this video. Thank you for your help and explaining in detail, love your time and effort.
i’m absolutely blown away by this.
What about DaVinci? Without testing performance there you can't fully understand how it works in professional level
That's been done: ruclips.net/video/HxH3RabNWfE/видео.html
RUclips: Copy what everyone says.
Max: Hold my RAM.
Awesome video!
This
12.6 watts .. u sure?
That would be insane
Can’t wait for my 16 inch MBP :) hopefully they release it early next year
Bought my m1 mini mac a few hours ago. Thanks for confirming I made the right decision.
I've been sold on a mac mini for about a month now. This video just re-sold me on it again. Picking a 16gb 1TB M1 mini soon.
This is a great review, thanks for being an enthusiast mad scientist.
LOVE the Logic Pro Benchmarks!
"Hey guys, it's Max"
Yes, two of them, we see.
I got one of these M1’s with 10GB ethernet. They may have been released after your video. I LOVED your video though. Please keep up the good work!!!!
Yeah I'm getting an M1 mac mini to replace my aging iMac. The performance difference is mind blowing! I sure do appreciate the amount of work put into this video! really good stuff!
Best review i've seen for this device. Nice one. This convinced me to buy M1 Mac Mini
Thank you 🙏. I was on the fence whether to purchase the mini or book pro. I’m now excitedly waiting on the mini to be delivered in a few weeks. I appreciate your in depth reviews especially when it comes to video editing on FCP and using 422 10 bit etc.
Close to 500K 🥰🥰
Congrats in Advance!
Thank you so much, sir! I've been looking for a computer for graduate school and I've been binging your videos! Great analysis!
11:49 26 min is not .26 its .38 , sorry i had to point it out. Love this video man, i'm in the market and this helped a lot.
Yeesus what the hell has Intel been doing, sleep at the wheel. Amazing how Apples first gen SoC annihilates a multigenerational refined i7
I wonder of Apple is considering dual or quad processor computers
same thought here. I bet they are, probably adding more RAM, maybe for the iMac Pros and for the next MacPro desktop line
This is the beginning of a cpu revolution ...........MAGIC
yup, just add in a pinch more of AI and we're in heaven
I really appreciate your video; I can assume this is the best REviews I ever have seen before. Such amazing and clear!
I need to be able to run Bootcamp which makes the M1 a less practical decision for me. It''s unfortunate because it seems like a great option.
Max, could you please upload you Xcode project test online so everybody could also use it in their comparisons? That way it can become the standard Xcode test for everyone else (like BruceX or Logic tests you’re using in your videos).
16:18
Apple Watch: "Ouch!"
heh thought u were referring to a new chip in the Apple Watch that is M1-based 🤔
thank you, you just made me buy a M1 Mac mini
Awesome tests, research, production, editing, hosting, and review!