600FPS On Warzone 2 Is Now Possible...Thanks To FrameGen!
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- Hello all! Today we dive into the world of fluid motion frame gen and see what it provides in terms of performance for Warzone 2!
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Tried it on warzone 2 with 5800x3d 6700xt, yeah doubles the frames but its just laggy. Turned it off and the game feels very smooth. Hope to see more development on this.
Sadly it requires a minimum of 200+ base fps to feel good. That's why its not particularly useful yet, as if you don't have crazy base FPS, it looks and feels shitty.
how many fps do u get with ur rx 6700 xt? I have an rx 6700 xt and im struggling to get 100 fps.
@@vilgothermansson8570 do you run it at high settings? Fps lows around 110 in Al Mazrah.
Mine don't work because said need fullscreen exclusive and I have but don't work have a signal yellow in adrenaline, help pls
I have a question, would it actually be good to change a 4080 for an rx 7900 xt just to have that amount of fps in games, is it really worth it? Because there is no other graphics card that reaches those fps regardless of latency (I haven't found any information about it)
Hey, I wouldn't personally give the 4080 up for a 7900XT or XTX because Nvidia will get similar frame gen too eventually
same pc specs as yours.
Do you have any kind of direct x errors?
No matter what i do (default - slight oc - hard oc) it happens from time to time.
Most of them came from msi afterburner but even without it game crashes once in a while.
I haven't had issues after dialing back my GPU oc on 7900xtx, but when I ran 1090mv and 1000mv flat, I got crashes, so dialed back all the way to 1010-1020mv depending on if i use framegen or not.
Make sure you don't tweak overclocks on both adrenalin and MSI, as it can cause issues!
On 4090 haven't had issues period, but on the Nvidia side things tend to be stable outside of an unstable OC.
It's just the start of the tech, and there's already people being like "that is useless", "this is sh*t"... but here you have a base that can replace over time the need of any Gsync/Freesync tech from screens, and also can be a good thing if it can be tweaked to lock for example to how much frame it'll generate to reduce as much as possible the input lag and make the most benefit from it. All that on AMD gpu only heh
Can be good for the competition between amd and nvidia
This is true. It's extremely early tech...it has downsides such as needing a base fps of 200-300 to look and feel good, and the driver isn't stable atm, but in 6+ months to a year it'll be significantly improved, and I believe will become the future of ultra high refresh gaming once it fully matures and its downsides become insignificant.
FYI I can't enable their hyper RX feature on warzone without it crashing. even though it says it supports this title.
I had to dial back my GPU OC to 1020mv and 3150mhz to not crash, and also, avoid tabbing out of the game to not crash. Its an unstable driver, and it def still needs some work before I can recommend it as a daily option.
how can i test how much input lag it adds to my system?
is this the one that works better with frames uncapped? but would capping frames improve smoothness and latency?
I do this as well but I just don't know anymore. Everyone says something different. I just go with "feel"
I only ran it uncapped so I am not sure. Ill give it a try capped and Ill see!
Ppl usually say capping fps helps latency and smoothness but other ppl just run uncapped. Can you do some clarification on that?
@@mickeylickey i believe that due to the sheer amount of FPS being generated, the latency penalty isn't bad (only 6-7ms). Ull see in other games the latency penalty is like 60ms+, usually that is due tona low base framerate! A high base framerate counteracts that issue, and allows framegen to run with minimal latency penalty.
Maybe obs ndi can circumvent the need for dual pc screen cloning?
Thanks for the video and link to AMD
will set a frame cap above monitor refresh rate let the gpu clock higher?
Hello ! Thanks for this video !
I have a suggestion for your next video! :) can you do a comparison of the different OS types (Window 10 vs Win 10 Super Light vs Win 11 vs Win Super light etc...) ? and tell us which one is best for warzone ? Thanks a lot!
I have a 75hz screen does this mean fps won't go down from 75?
What CPU should I get for constant 240fps ? Got a g7 240hz 1440p Monitor, and while my rx6900xtxh red devil ultimate is running very strong, my i7 12700 non K hangs around 140-175fps (depends on map/location)
On WZ2 release it was between 160-200
Gpu is always at 55-70% usage
Your only option is the 7800x3d if you want a CPU that can do 240+ most of the time. Keep in mind even with a 7800x3d ull occasionally see it go below that in warzone 2.
@@Beefy-Tech what about the 14700/14900k ?
I’m on a single PC and don’t plan on having 2 pcs, but the only apps I’m using while gaming is discord and obs (for either streaming or recording) and sometimes opera GX (watching twitch/youtube)
Also I’m on crucial ballistix DDR4 3200 CL16 (running on 3600 cl16 right now, micro E die) & a Z690 msi pro Board
For a 14700k/14900k I just have to buy the CPU (400-600€), for 7800x3d I would buy a cheap b650 board + cpu + ddr5 6000 cl30/32 (all about 680-700€)
What do you think ? I see the 14900k can be really fast but that’s with DDR5 7000+
Oh and also thanks for the videos, I got your config file and got a 10-15fps increase in averages👍
@@kerim_og_9378 thing is 14700k/14900k wouldn't be as substantial of an upgrade as ud think without also buying AT LEAST a DDR5 7600mhz and a Z790 Tachyon, but it would still be north of 30% better even stock... So it may work out for you.
If you already have parts though, a 14700K is a good buy...and it's simplest, but just know it may not fully max out the 14700K without upgrading ram and mono too👍
Is that system overclocked at all? In just need the 300fps, lemme know that ram kit, thanks
Yes, the system is fully overclocked fam. The ram kit I am using is a 6400MHZ cl32 Kingston 32GB kit, which is ran at 6200mhz cl30.
I am playing The Finals with AFMF on now offical 24.1.1 drivers with base fps round 220 and it feels great on 240hz screen with 400 fps, no tearing, notable input lag etc. Worst thing that can happen with offical driver is afmf turning its self off if you mess to much with it..
That's solid! I wanna play with AFMF more too...such a good technology, but indeed it has the tendency to turn off when it can't fill in the gaps in frames! Basically, the higher the base FPS the less it will have issues, but good technology overall.
Hey, off topic. I think the config file is messing with the game. I tried moving my mouse left and right fast and I was getting a lot of stuttering. Repair game files seem to solve the issue. I'm assuming that resets the config file. Can you see if this is happening on your end?
Chances are as of the mw3 update the configs are different, they might need updating, so I'll update them tonight👍
Also, Nvidia driver 537.55 with hardware acceleration on seems best for 4090/13900k / and for Hardware acceleration off, 537.44 is best.
Now that we got two 500hz monitors in the market, it's actually really cool, for someone who wants to max out his refresh rate... As long as the frame generation works properly
Yup! The only thing that I'd mandatory for a good experience with afmf frame gen is a 200+, ideally 300 native fps experience. Without a crazy high base FPS it starts to have increased latency and motion fluidity issues. But this basically means if you are getting 300fps, and have a 360-500hz monitor, you can FINALLY lock your your refresh rate without dipping below in most games! Especially given that AFMF removes the cpu bottleneck, and becomes full gpu bound at both 1080p and 1440p.
@@Beefy-Tech yea exactly, it gives you the option to lock the FPS to the max refresh rate and enjoy really smooth experience. For now it basically a good use for high performance systems. It needs to develop further to make it useful on lower end systems, with big focus on decreasing the big extra latency with low FPS. Interesting how AMD gonna make it better, and how much they can push it on this case of use at the driver level
Is there even a difference between 360fps and 500fpd
@@deagle7602 360fps on warzone will occasionally dip to 250, but 500fps dipping to 400fps means anyone with a 360hz 1440p will always have flawless smooth gameplay.
I run a very similar PC and I am loving AFMF on all of my games.
Using AFMF on a locked 60fps singleplayer game, like Souls games, would be fantastic!
It will still be locked, sadly
@@thelittledetailscr7231 locked to 120, but it should still insert an extra frame.
You forgot about the majour input lag that comes with that 600fps. Id rather play with 300fps with low input lag than 600 fps with huge input lag
I didn't forget. If you watch the video, I clearly show exactly the input lag it adds within the overlay, and it clearly says 6ms of input lag. 6ms of input lag is not huge, and infact is nearly nothing compared to other games where AFMF frame gen adds North of 60ms to 100ms of latency.
@@Beefy-Tech true but id still stick with the low 1ms or 2ms, if you play on a high refresh rate monitor it does make a diffrance. And those 600 fps is not real frames, its fake generated frames. Not the same as actual frames. Frame gen is more targetred towards single player games with demanding requirments...... Not competitive FPS games
Have u arleady test it in other games, battlefield? 😀
Says inactive not compatible
Amazing!🙏 What about single pc streaming?? İs it usable on that case??? this stats on paper is crazy İt would be amazing to see it on 6700xt , 1440p on 240fps with 250-300$ gpu... or if rx 6950 xt pass the 360fps, you kinda top of the line
Love to see some 6000 series here on this specific topic
Amazing video, thanks brother
The issue is the lower the base framerate, the worse it begins to look and the more input delay it has. If you are anywhere under 160-200base FPS things will begin to be look sketchy under fast motion relatively quick.
Basically, for it to not add massive input latency or ghosting, it requires the PC to already get a really high amount of FPS, being a big downside with the way AFMF framegen works.
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Very good video! Does it work also in other games like cs2?
Yes it should, and just like warzone, because the native framerate is so high, it may actually work well, but would have to test.
I have a RTX 3080 10G, same black screen... it takes up to 10 secs to recover control of the game while I tab to another window, specially if it have a Video (i.e. youtube)
How’d you activate fs3? It wasn’t available as an option on my amd settings and my I have the latest driver for gpu. Thanks 🙏🏼
Download the beta driver
You need the beta previews driver fam👍
recommend any previous versions? thanks.@@Beefy-Tech
I couldn't find it... help pls @@F1monster1
@@paulglasermonleon1677 the only driver available that has AFMF frame gen is the beta driver in my video description. If you want a good stable driver, 23.9.2 has been the best for me, but 23.9.3 also was fine.
framegen is mostly for ultra high settings in single player games since it adds extra input lag
You can see within the video it only adds 6ms of input lag. That's a very very small input lag addition in comparison to other games.
Basically, because the base framerate is so high, it works amazingly in call of duty.
Ready for 540hz monitor XD
You should try fsr 3 frame gen on rtx 4090 ! Since it go officially impented in call of duty!
The question I have for you is can you get banned for doing this on multiplayer games?
Please test it in games like CS2 or Battlefield
Sure! 7900xtx ran quiet meh for me in 2042, so I'd be interested to try!
Cs2 video is coming soon, as people were wondering how the 7950x3d does in that game, so I'll add a framegen test along with it👍
is FrameGen coming to invida ???
only with 4000 series
@@Aegis.But there are rumours DLSS3 coming to 3000S
Yes, but only on supported games.
AMD added it as a driver level feature which you may enable on any 6000 and 7000 series gpu, and any dx11 or dx12 game available!
@@11d3x really? Where did u hear those? I have a 3080
How do you turn it on
Did you fund solution ?
what headphones you using
Sennhesier HD560S. Great headphones for sure!
@@Beefy-Tech for sure I recommended you hd 800s or hd 600 for next ugprade
@@botslashera these 560s were about 140$, so way cheaper then the 2 above it ofcourse🤣
Will look for fancier hd800's later down the line ;)
That’s better. The hair I mean. Looks much better than the overgrown minge 👍
Give it a month and it's back to its initial form🎉
6000 gpus can use it with the beta driver too
Shame that Nvidia don't have this type of thing 😕. Nonetheless amazing info.
I believe it may be introduced in MW3 later down the line for Nvidia! But sadly no guarantees yet, we'll have to wait and see!
@@Beefy-Tech Yup
This could be super useful in VR or monitors that use multiple frames for each eye to produce 3D images? Like Acer's 3D Stereoscopic monitors
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...Just gotta fix that jank or smooth it out I guess.
bro how do u enable the frame generation thing like can u make a tutorial like wtf
I tried frame generation and it literally doesn't feel any different without it on. It feels like a placebo effect. You have a beefy system so obviously it is gonna feel smoother because the frames you generate without it enabled is still high.
To me it felt actually smoother because it was always above monitor refresh with it on. With it off there's the dips below 270fps whichll make the game less smooth.
Usually only fix for that is to cap FPS at like 220, and that way I'd never dip below, bit with framegen I can leave it uncapped and draw above 270fps constantly, which is most likely why it felt so good in my time with it.
With that said, the driver that brings support for it sucks ass. Basically you can't tab out of the game after enabling frame gen as half the time it'll crash the driver lol.
Input lag ?
It has a 6ms latency penalty in warzone, which isn't much at all due to the base framerate being so crazy high as is.
@@Beefy-Tech But we like to play MP games with high FPS because of reduced latency. This is pointless anyway.
@@szabolcsdavid297 it's useful for warzone mostly, because warzone often has huge FPS dips that make the game feel rough at times. If you have 550avg FPS and get a dip to 360fps, ud never feel that dip because 99% of monitors are 360hz and below, meaning ud always be above monitor refresh rate.
But if your FPS is 300avg, and you say have a 270hz monitor (which is my exact situation) ull often see dips to low 200s in maps such as vondel, meaning game won't feel flawless.
With framegen, you can always be above your monitot refresh rate, meaning even with the added 6ms of latency it physically feels smoother.
Why Nvidia doesn't just introduce their Frame Generation if that is actually a reality and is an amazing utility?? Or WZ2 just doesn't care a sheet.
We need to wait actual drivers
Definitely...beta drivers suck for stability
If you’re getting almost 300fps natively, that’s all you need.
True, and with the added input lag the 600 fps is not worth it in my opinion. Maybe on a single player title yes, but not a competitive FPS title
Facts,
How are you getting almost 300fps natively? I have the exact same setup and same 7900xtx also used your settings and it's at 180fps
@@Tutankhamun88 not me brother the guy who made the vid is getting close to 300 fps. He most likely running a 4090 with all setting on low 1440p on a 13900k cpu.
Frame gen is good but you will need 120 native fps otherwise its gonna feel weird
question is, when is 6000 series getting this
U can use it. U just need to download the AFMF driver.
It's already available on 6000 series with the preview driver in the description 👍
so its possible only with amd ?
At the moment, yes fam.
it adds latency and worsens motion clarity so whats the point
Motion clarity was actually perfect, and latency penalty was canceled out by the sheer amount of FPS it was able to pull. Basically, it'll help those who need to stay above their monitor refresh rate!
Downside is it's only good if you have AT LEAST 200+ base FPS, otherwise it begins to look less good quiet quickly.
@@Beefy-Tech i am still skeptical, i personally would wait until someone does measurements on both the motion clarity and end to end latency figures
@@sam-cw8eo I'm only telling you how it felt to me. Coming from a 4090 system, and from playing on the 7900xtx with frame gen off, framegen was an equal or better experience in every aspect other than stability.
I record with dual pc, and frame gen doesn't work with dual pc, otherwise I'd be daily driving it without second thoughts, that's how impressed I was with how the game felt!
@@Beefy-Tech the higher the base framerate you start off with the better interpolation is going to perform it's really simple. the motion gaps between the frames at 300fps are really tiny and easy to predict so the quality of the interpolated frames are near perfect.
lower base framerates have huge motion gaps so it's harder for a vfi to predict what is happening.
Would not enable this in any fps competitive shooter, or actually any game where input latency will put you at a disadvantage.
Take a look at the top right hand side, the added latency is only 6ms, which is basically unnoticeable.
afmf > fsr3 framegen
It doesn't make sense to turn it on for 600 fps
Only use case , if you cannot hit the max framerate your monitor can handle , so going from 60 to 120 .
Your eyes can't tell the difference passed around 300 fps. No offense, but this is overkill. 😅
Only someone who hasn't played om both would say that👀
now try this feature on fortnite performance on 4K and let's see how much fps you can get with that feature :)
The lower the base FPS, the worse it works basically. So fortnite at 1440p competitive settings would work well with it, but at 4K the base native FPS won't be high, so it'll make it look worse and feel worse.
Afmf frame gen requires a huge base FPS...North of 200-300FPS to look and feel good.
@@Beefy-Tech oh ok I don't have an AMD pu that's why I made a question. (I don't even have a RTX card lol ut still keep up the content man!)
@@elslenderxd1295 no issue man! If you are looking into getting a GPU with this technology, I'd say it's still quiet early to say it'll for sure be good in more games.
I don't really play fortnite myself, so I'm not familiar with its usual performance. But if fortnite on a 4090 gets 200-300FPS usually, it's pretty much guaranteed to DOUBLE the fps :D.
@@Beefy-Tech i mean I alr got a new pc with RTX 4070 and all I can say is that on fortnite on DX12 all low 1080p u get around 500fps (without "fps boost packs" or sum like that and I think it's pretty cool)
Wtf😮
crazy lmao. I went back on 4090 setup after, and no joke the frame gen + 7900xtx was actually smoother in every aspect! If only the driver wasnt so unstable id def switch to the 7900xtx fulltime xD
AMD yes？ 😂
Yup, AMD only.
Arnt these fake frames though? Like the CPU is not processing information any faster so you’re getting fake info.
You get 600 fps to your eyes. The fact the frames are processed by the driver instead of at a game level doesn't mean the frames don't exist.
Basically the added latency comes from frames being rendered in 2 spots instead of only 1, so you are seeing 600 fps, but 300 are rendered in 1 spot, 300 are rendered in another.
Latency is bad for fp shooters though 😢
grose
Low graphics..
it's a comp shooter, no shit...
this is bad for competitive games as it adds render latency...
Yes, about 6ms worth of latency, not a significant amount, but it does add it.
@@Beefy-Tech to be honest I can't test it with 300FPS as a base like you did, but in Single Player games I do notice it if I am using frame gen from ~60 FPS.
But I feel like in a competitive game I'd never do this 😅
@@TheMasterOfSafari I tried it in other games, and I noticed the lower the base framerate, the worse it was basically. In cod it only adds 6ms of latency because of base FPS being 300, but when I played forza H5 maxed out graphics with a base of like 120, it added 18+ms of latency, so TRIPLE cods latency addition.
This means without a crazy base framerate it's ass lol
@@Beefy-Tech oh damn, I didn't know it multiplied like that!