Yeah, to be clear, I no longer believe Maura was a sociopath and wish I could take back the comments I made about how she was best with her boyfriend, Bill. After that episode, I learned that Bill had left his job in D.C. after coworkers claimed he assaulted a woman, there. That led to uncovering several other pieces of information about their relationship. I now call Maura a survivor. I believe she left to get away from him.
Renner hate coming in strong. #triggered. 😂 Everyone and their grandmother has assumptions and theories. And I don't agree with everything Renner states... but to say he is not informed or tabloid, is utter BS. He states this theory with the information gathered, at that point in time. Keep doing what you're doing James! Your hard work on the case, is appreciated. Along with the other investigators.
did anyone ever actually go check the coordinates. I mean, if someone is supposedly threatening you in order to scare you off and keep you from checking where her body may or may not be don't you think you should get the fuck up there asap?!!
Did rick forcier smoke cigs?.... he was so close to the crash , could of creeped over to murray, and bullshitter her yeah my house right here is being rentovated but ive set up this trailer , you can use phone and call whomever....so I was wondering did he smoke
You do the case a real disservice when you claim there are three main theories (runaway, suicide, and murder). In online polls a fourth theory, succumbing unintentionally to the elements, ranks near or at the top.
That seems like the most probable scenario to me; especially if she were concussed. I wonder if anyone has considered inviting NecroSearch international to participate. If she's out there they'd have the best chance of turning up any traces of her.
I agree. I can't believe people think it was 32 degrees when Maura crashed her car. It was a high of 32 degrees that day but it dipped to -7 that night! So when Maura was outside, it was probably in the low 20s & getting colder. I too don't understand why Hypothermia is not a 4th theory.
You've confused the days. The low on February 9 was recorded in the pre-dawn hours. The temperature the evening of February 9 was mild by New England winter standards, and that extended to February 10.
I've read that the rag in the tail pipe would stop the engine from running. She locked the car before she left so perhaps she put the rag in there to keep anyone from stealing her car.
Tammy Ihnken I hear your point, however, i smoke and I never nor do any of my friends who smoke ever put there ciggs out in three cat ashtray. they are flicked out the window 100% of the time. I also seriously doubt due to the numerous instances of incompetence by the police in this case that they would have collected any cigarette buts for DNA testing. It seems they mistook engine coolant for an alcoholic beverage of some sort. Also, and I am aware eye witnesses are wrong a lot, it's hard for me to accept the light on a phone to be mistaken for someone smoking a cigg. Anything is possible though.
What were the results of Sherbrooke's trip you traveled with the other guy? You never really mentionned it. If Maura is still alive in living in Canada, that city will be a normal terminus since it is at the end of the 93 highway going on in the White Mountains through that area. I know it because every three year or so, a group of friends are driving that route to walk on Mount Washington. Was it releated to episode 18?
I know the b&w photo you guys are referring to here, and I always thought that was mistakenly attributed to her, but it was apparently taken by campus police at the dorms? It's always bothered me because it doesn't look anything like her.
I know foul play is only one possibility, but it can't be ruled out either - because of that being extremely likely, has their been a criminal profile done?
12-1-16...Mja Inc Investigations : Our company has 3 Profilers that has done a Victim & Suspect & Case Profile..We know what type of suspect we are looking for & we have sent names to the Police of Serial Killers that got caught after Miss Murray went missing..Two of those Serial Killers were operating in NY--VT & NH..We also turned over those names to Mr.Murray...
Tammy Ihnken I don't trust MJA Inc, one bit. Shady PI guy, making loony claims. Wish this podcast wouldn't of made an MJA Inc. episode... now he thinks they are the end all & be all, of this case
12-3-16...Mja Inc Investigations : Once again talking about something you know nothing about..Mja aren't even the lead investigators on the case..So we don't know all because if we did the killer would be caught..Our claims aren't looney everything I said on the Podcast is documented...We have documented evidence where you have none that proves we are lying..We have no reason to make false claims concerning a case..I was asked by Mr.Murray to do the Podcast..Once again you didn't do your research..Mja is involved with a National Live Radio podcasts out of ST.Louis & California much bigger than Tim & Lance..But Mr.Murray asked us to do Tim & Lances podcast on Miss Murray's case before we done the National Show on Miss Murray..We do what our clients want done...Anyway Mja doenst need Tim & Lance to validate our group,we have been around since 6-1-2001...I cant help the way you feel & as I have said its not your opinion that counts--the only opinion that counts is Mr Murray..If he is happy with our help & he wants it to continue just what is your point ? Because we have nothing to hide & because of people like you our work on any case is documented..This I can tell you : If Tim & Lance decides not to have us on the podcast again that's their choice..But Mja isn't going away we will still be searching which we have done since November 2005..Anyway we love people like you & Tammy..You amuse me & sometimes you even make me laugh..Also just to let you know me replying back is done on my personal time...So no case is being put on the burner because I need a laugh..
maybe if you read the comment correctly you would have saved yourself the rant and your chances for carpal tunnel... "I know foul play is ONLY ONE possibility, but it can't be ruled out either..."
she was obviously abducted by a predator. it was most likely a crime of opportunity. I don't believe the police were involved. some one probably saw her walking alone at night in a desolate area and abducted and killed her. just my 2 cents.
Chris Wands And just who is "somebody"? Besides, running off and succumbing to the elements remains a possibility. Given how inept the New Hampshire police are being portrayed, not finding her remains out there seems pretty likely.
Yeah, to be clear, I no longer believe Maura was a sociopath and wish I could take back the comments I made about how she was best with her boyfriend, Bill. After that episode, I learned that Bill had left his job in D.C. after coworkers claimed he assaulted a woman, there. That led to uncovering several other pieces of information about their relationship. I now call Maura a survivor. I believe she left to get away from him.
James Renner I am very curious as to those details....
mauramurray.blogspot.com/
James Renner very interesting. Thank you.
I think you're still making none credible assumptions.
Renner hate coming in strong. #triggered. 😂
Everyone and their grandmother has assumptions and theories. And I don't agree with everything Renner states... but to say he is not informed or tabloid, is utter BS. He states this theory with the information gathered, at that point in time.
Keep doing what you're doing James! Your hard work on the case, is appreciated. Along with the other investigators.
did anyone ever actually go check the coordinates. I mean, if someone is supposedly threatening you in order to scare you off and keep you from checking where her body may or may not be don't you think you should get the fuck up there asap?!!
the photo of maura is just a bad photo, nothing more.
Right? I'd be in jail if people saw my driver's license
Did rick forcier smoke cigs?.... he was so close to the crash , could of creeped over to murray, and bullshitter her yeah my house right here is being rentovated but ive set up this trailer , you can use phone and call whomever....so I was wondering did he smoke
I am happy the guys have Blue Apron now! More success to Tim and Lance!
Kudos for offering every point of view on what may have happened. It shows you're responsible.
You do the case a real disservice when you claim there are three main theories (runaway, suicide, and murder). In online polls a fourth theory, succumbing unintentionally to the elements, ranks near or at the top.
That seems like the most probable scenario to me; especially if she were concussed. I wonder if anyone has considered inviting NecroSearch international to participate. If she's out there they'd have the best chance of turning up any traces of her.
I agree. I can't believe people think it was 32 degrees when Maura crashed her car. It was a high of 32 degrees that day but it dipped to -7 that night! So when Maura was outside, it was probably in the low 20s & getting colder. I too don't understand why Hypothermia is not a 4th theory.
You've confused the days. The low on February 9 was recorded in the pre-dawn hours. The temperature the evening of February 9 was mild by New England winter standards, and that extended to February 10.
The power of elimination, your work is a work in progress.... keep going.
This story gives me chills!!
I've read that the rag in the tail pipe would stop the engine from running. She locked the car before she left so perhaps she put the rag in there to keep anyone from stealing her car.
June Bug Right
wouldn't they just pull it out?
Steal a damaged car that was barely running?
That gas station story makes for a good one. almost sounds like it maybe didn’t happen that way
also, can anyone tell me if the cop who would have been driving the SUV witness A reported seeing is a cigarette smoker?
Tammy Ihnken I hear your point, however, i smoke and I never nor do any of my friends who smoke ever put there ciggs out in three cat ashtray. they are flicked out the window 100% of the time. I also seriously doubt due to the numerous instances of incompetence by the police in this case that they would have collected any cigarette buts for DNA testing. It seems they mistook engine coolant for an alcoholic beverage of some sort. Also, and I am aware eye witnesses are wrong a lot, it's hard for me to accept the light on a phone to be mistaken for someone smoking a cigg. Anything is possible though.
What were the results of Sherbrooke's trip you traveled with the other guy? You never really mentionned it.
If Maura is still alive in living in Canada, that city will be a normal terminus since it is at the end of the 93 highway going on in the White Mountains through that area. I know it because every three year or so, a group of friends are driving that route to walk on Mount Washington. Was it releated to episode 18?
There were some very significant sightings in the region at an athletic club and record store.
@James Renner, thank you very much for answering, sir. Enough to mention it or not.
I know the b&w photo you guys are referring to here, and I always thought that was mistakenly attributed to her, but it was apparently taken by campus police at the dorms? It's always bothered me because it doesn't look anything like her.
looks like a mugshot.
Maybe Maura put the rag in the pipe because it was blowing black smoke and she was scared the Police would stop her
I truly respect Renner , but God is he abrasive
Listening to this in 2019 I think she was anything but safe when she was with bill.
What did bill do?
@@sydneybaker8618 look up his sexuaI misconduct trial.
Long live the Bangles.
I know foul play is only one possibility, but it can't be ruled out either - because of that being extremely likely, has their been a criminal profile done?
12-1-16...Mja Inc Investigations : Our company has 3 Profilers that has done a Victim & Suspect & Case Profile..We know what type of suspect we are looking for & we have sent names to the Police of Serial Killers that got caught after Miss Murray went missing..Two of those Serial Killers were operating in NY--VT & NH..We also turned over those names to Mr.Murray...
Tammy Ihnken I don't trust MJA Inc, one bit. Shady PI guy, making loony claims. Wish this podcast wouldn't of made an MJA Inc. episode... now he thinks they are the end all & be all, of this case
12-3-16...Mja Inc Investigations : Once again talking about something you know nothing about..Mja aren't even the lead investigators on the case..So we don't know all because if we did the killer would be caught..Our claims aren't looney everything I said on the Podcast is documented...We have documented evidence where you have none that proves we are lying..We have no reason to make false claims concerning a case..I was asked by Mr.Murray to do the Podcast..Once again you didn't do your research..Mja is involved with a National Live Radio podcasts out of ST.Louis & California much bigger than Tim & Lance..But Mr.Murray asked us to do Tim & Lances podcast on Miss Murray's case before we done the National Show on Miss Murray..We do what our clients want done...Anyway Mja doenst need Tim & Lance to validate our group,we have been around since 6-1-2001...I cant help the way you feel & as I have said its not your opinion that counts--the only opinion that counts is Mr Murray..If he is happy with our help & he wants it to continue just what is your point ? Because we have nothing to hide & because of people like you our work on any case is documented..This I can tell you : If Tim & Lance decides not to have us on the podcast again that's their choice..But Mja isn't going away we will still be searching which we have done since November 2005..Anyway we love people like you & Tammy..You amuse me & sometimes you even make me laugh..Also just to let you know me replying back is done on my personal time...So no case is being put on the burner because I need a laugh..
maybe if you read the comment correctly you would have saved yourself the rant and your chances for carpal tunnel...
"I know foul play is ONLY ONE possibility, but it can't be ruled out either..."
you clearly misread it lol. sad.
she was obviously abducted by a predator. it was most likely a crime of opportunity. I don't believe the police were involved. some one probably saw her walking alone at night in a desolate area and abducted and killed her. just my 2 cents.
And what makes it obvious?
kryer981 the other theories just don't seem likely. I doubt she is hiding some place still alive. someone would have discovered her by now.
Chris Wands And just who is "somebody"? Besides, running off and succumbing to the elements remains a possibility. Given how inept the New Hampshire police are being portrayed, not finding her remains out there seems pretty likely.
kryer981 who the somebody is idk. but yes she could have succumbed to the elements true
EVERY theory leaves a truckload of weirdness unexplained! It will take a major break to solve this.
These witnesses are so weird.
whats with this blue apron crap? seems exploitive to me.
I'm sure this is great but the music is awful, and makes it unwatchable. 👎
I love it, it's definitely eerie. I mean, I wouldnt listen to it for fun, but it sets a mood
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