Watch Expert Review: Tudor Black Bay 58 | Watchfinder & Co.
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Ever looked at Tudor’s Black Bay and thought, ‘It’s great, but it’s just a bit too big’? Turns out you’re not the only one, because while the successful 41mm full-size Black Bay continues to live on, Tudor has actually done something about it.
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When a GMT 58 comes out I might just have my daily watch for life.
They will charge you an extra $1,200 for that little GMT hand. I guarantee it
@@atl3630 Worth it lol.
You probably already know but.. www.tudorwatch.com/en/watch-family/black-bay-gmt
PantsofVance BB58 is a 39 mm. Current one is 41 :)
@@mattmason1352 oops
After living with my Rolex TT Datejust for 40 yrs., I decided to get a Sub for everyday wear. OMG, the prices were (are) stupid! Acquired the Tudor S&G and love it. The size is not a problem and I saved $8000. Exactly, a 'no- brainer' . Great video!
I’m a proud owner of a 58 and this review does it justice. Excellent review!
39mm Tudor GMT would be an incredible piece!
I have a 16570 Explorer II and recently got a BB58, but I would absolutely add a 39mm diameter/12mm thick Tudor GMT to my collection if one were to be released.
39mm black bay blue would be great too.
Everything is subjective, but I think the Harrods edition BB is nicer than a Kermit (which is my grail Rolex).. but it's just too big! If they made the Harrods edition BB in the 58 size.. it would never leave my wrist.
Sans the Rivet bracelet, yes!
Yes its time
Yes, the 58 is a lovely watch. Does right all the wrongs of the standard BB.
Finally! This will be my next watch. I love everything about it. The size, the changes the made to the crown, the warm gilt and how it extends to the bezel, the in-house movement and its power reserve. Rarely been as excited about any watch which is remarkable given its price-point.
Now is the big problem getting hold of one... :-D
Haven’t had an issue finding Tudors. At least not when I last looked at watches.
There are like a whopping thirty in the US now according to the distributer, thus the issue finding one
You can get one ordered from an AD now, but not on the bracelet. And you will really want the bracelet it’s very good. There aren’t a ton right now but probably over the next few months.
Horology House you probably know better than I. I had to jump through some pretty crazy hoops to get mine. Like way more hoops than I should have. Worth it. I’d rather wear this than the Rolex Pepsi GMT.
"Even if you don't really want one, writing down a list of the pros and cons makes it pretty hard not to come to the conclusion, that you should probably have one."
I think exactly the same about the tudor bb58.
You are really doing an outstanding job with using the right words, sometimes even in a philosophic manner or with a suitable comparison to the car industry, to describe the beauty of the stunning timepieces you are talking about. I really have to say: Respect!
Please keep on doing your videos like you do! I could spend hours watchung them..
Best regards from Germany
The R8 & Huracan reference is perfect. Any more car guys here who got bit by the watch bug?
Perfect car analogy!
Thought the same thing. Is much rather have a R8 V10 roadster over a Hurracan any day. I'd also pick a Black Bay Blue over a ceramic Sub. Go back to the 16610 though.......
"People who'd choose an Audi R8 over a Lamborghini Huracan" - no. I like my Tudor for what it is. There is enough heritage, quality craftsmanship and a promising future in the brand to be interesting, no need to explain that by such comparisons. Also, I'd rather have the Lambo.
I keep telling people who are wondering why I'm selling my rolex for one of these, that I don't want to pay for the upkeep on the Ferrari.
I rather stay away from unreliable V.A.G. products altogether after problems with oil consumption, several transmission problems and a failure of my 8 cilinder engine which set me back 8000 Euro's. And they still cheat with emission figures. No more Volkswagen products for me. If Tudor is Audi then I have to buy a Grand Seiko.
Marinus Antonius which would probably be a Lexus in car terms.
The Tudor looks better than the Rolex. No crown guards and a truly iconic hand design make this watch a modern classic.
I have a Rolex but I really like how clean and subtle the Tudor looks
The Tudor design starts to grow on me, it looks so clean and unusual without crown guards. I would love to own it but I'm 15 so I guess a Seiko Samurai Padi is good enough.
Cyka CheekiBreeki You’re never too young or too old to wear a decent watch. And with Christmas coming up.....
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Unless he's got rich parents or is a young blossoming entrepreneur, forget it.
Will always be the poor man's rolex.
If we know they've invested in the movement you can be sure they will be coming out with various versions of this spin off line in the coming years
Chris Santosusso I think so too. We know how Tudor likes variations on a theme. I just hope they don’t dilute it too much.
In August I had to have one. It was like a mania. I was in Rouen in France and I walked into the main AD and walked out 5 mins later with a 58. Simplest thing in the world. Then I came back to London and everyone’s like OMG you found one. I was stung by the exchange rate though.
39mm gmt would be a dream!!
So would the blue version, I'd have to have one of those!
Wow, a 39mm GMT version... that would be great
The BB58 is so beautiful!
I tried this on over the weekend. The size is perfect. If the BB58 had the traditional silver bezel text of my 79220n, I'd be tempted to pick it up.
Bob Boyd 100% agree. The gold bezel markers absolutely ruin the watch for me too. It’s so close to perfection, but the gold bezel throws it all out the window.
@@speedwolf5212 why? It fits the dial.
Got to say (not because i recently bought the standard BB) i do prefer the standard BB. The size of it is what i like, it has a presence, so to speak. It FEELS chunky and i like that. But, I am happy that there is now the option to get a smaller version for the people who prefer smaller watches!
I hit the like button because of the last sentence. Couldn't agree more: the GMT in this size would make a killer watch.
Nope .. I looked at the 58 and found it too small. But then they showed me the 41mm version and it’s PERFECT. I bought the heritage version and I’m very happy with it.
Rolex is currency while Tudor is a watch brand
Only Tudor people say that, buddy. There’s a reason why Tudor is considered the little brother.
@@Will-hc4xv ...because they're sibling brands, and they don't want to compete with each other...? Simply because it is cheaper?
@@Will-hc4xv tell me why.. Rolex should be the same price.
Well said. Not all of us care about investing value.
Well Tudor is a little brother to Rolex, it offers good quality but the clockwork is not as superior as Rolex, they use a cheaper yet still good clockwork for their Tudor watches, and the materials are different Tudor is supposed to be an affordable luxury watch where Rolex is Rolex. Tudor is also born in a Rolex factory but i wouldn't say Rolex is currency if I had a Rolex I would definitely wear it all the time. Tudor is a nice watch though Rolex designs are very classic and it just keeps being like that where with Tudor they actually take chances adding different shapes and etc !
Yes, gmt 58 would be the dream!
Such great videos, I got my 58 a few weeks ago after being on a few wait lists and it hasn’t left my wrist since
I just love the watch hands of the blackbay. I‘ve always wanted a Rolex Submariner someday but after I discovered Tudor’s blackbay that instantly changed. There is no watch that I like more than the red BB. I fell in love with it and for my 21st Birthday in August next year I‘m going to get myself one.
Just received my Tudor fifty eight today and absolutely love it.
Hallelujah, GMT 58, that would be the grail of Basel 2019. I can hear the phone call to my dealer the morning it's revealed. Tudor please make this happen.
Great video. I have a BB36 ,which I am loving so much, but I'm yearning for this Fifty -eight now. Perfect
I've been collecting Rolex and Tudor for the best part of two decades, and I would pick the BB58 over any Rolex diver currently in production. Both the proportions and the execution are fantastic (those beveled edges...).
Not holding my breath that they will release a reduced size GMT anytime soon, as it would entail developing a new movement again. Maybe in a few years though. It would be interesting if they came up with watch variations based on the movement used in the BB58. What I am thinking about is a 38-39mm case, smooth bezel with anti-magnetic features and distinctive hands. Very much like a modern Rolex 1019.
I own rolex and tudor and im in the same boat as you.i just absolutely adore my black bay.i got the red smiley dial and love it and find myself staring at it.i hope to add more to my tudor than rolex as we speak
Just picked this watch up as a retirement gift myself and love it! The size is perfect on my just under 7inch wrist . It is a good balance between a sporty and dressy watch, probably a tad more dressy. It is clocking in at +4 seconds which is slightly better than COSC (-4/+6) . Great watch !
Still loving it? I’ve got one being delivered tomorrow
@@RustyLongPipe lol yes I am, very classy watch even after 2yrs I still catch myself giving it a glance when I’m wearing it! Congrats and enjoy wearing it.
2:28 awwwww so cute!
Strange for me why so many wants a gmt function. How often do you travel to another time zone? For me it might be one or twice a years. I do however cook at least 5 times a week and here a divers watch comes in nicely. Rice 12 minutes on the boil followed by 12 minutes resting at the hot plate. Potatoes 14 minutes, eggs 8 minutes. For me a divers watch is not for diving it’s for organizing oneself without stress. So unless I end up as a frequent flier, not likely in these co2 conscious times, I will stick with a divers bezel or a plain bezel.
I've been wondering the same thing, why do so many people have orgasms over GMT's. Would genuinely love to know.
I have the ETA black bay with the blue bezel and black dial- before I bought it I searched high and wide in honk Kong and my local city for the ETA black. I love my watch, but this BB58 is an absolute must have for me and I will add it now to my collection soon enough
Would LOVE to see this case size in a GMT function, and would even also LOVE this new movement to be put into a 40mm Pelagos...please lord
I still want the 41 even with my small wrists. The 58 lacks the date complication, that's a deal beaker.
Cool vid thx. I got this a few weeks back and it's been a pleasure to wear. Was quite hard to find as most stores could only offer a waiting list. Its Light , slim, discreet but pleasingly vintage . I put a thicker vintage style leather strap on which compliments it nicely. Had an eye for a submariner but this will be an ideal day wear I feel.
“Under the radar”? - Rather one of the most discussed releases on every forum I’ve seen... Tks for the video, though!
I think I prefer the 41mm more, it's a bit more watch on the wrist.
I have a 7.5" wrist and agree so I went with the 41mm..... It's 1 week old tomorrow and so far I'm impressed.
@@rameza534 I don't own a BB 58 but the 41mm Black Bay works excellent for me. I have since added a Pelagos and a GMT
the tudor black bay 58 would be the Absolute GADA watch had it have a Date Function at the 6pm and the T-Fit Clasp.... hopefully Tudor unveils that tomorrow ! instant buy for many people that absolutely requires a date function
Absolutely brilliant! Chuckled at the last comment at BB 58 GMT that would be to die for!
Great vid guys!
It will happen 100%
The 58 doesn't have a date function which I find extremely useful, I actually would use this watch as a daily beater so the functions are required. They are not the bargain they used to be either, in the last 5 years this very watch "Black Bay 54 S&G" has gone from £2550 with Bracelet to £5160. I still love this watch though.
I’m waiting for the Blackbay 58 GMT with my blackbay 58 on the wrist 👍
Tudor BB 58 GMT it's definitely a dream watch... But I doubt big brother will let it happen...
I love it - even if I have several Rolex models - this Tudor is just Amazing ...
Bought one yesterday, very excited to pick it up soon!
3:02 Love that speck of dust falling on the Original BB at the 11 o'clock index. The BB36 is incredible: size, style and gold accents - nothing is out of place. I'll think I'll save to get one and happily add it to my collection :) Thanks for this!
BB58 GMT would be amazing
I've owned the ETA black bay for two years and I still love it. The watch is awesome and I get a lot of compliments from random strangers. Mostly because of the red color lol
Tudor watches value will go through the roof, especially BB 58, an iconic unique watch in many aspects. The new generation loves it, whereas rolex is for the older crowd and has that jackass image.
the "new generation" hardly wears luxury watches. some are into g shock, other are into smart watches...and most view watches as superfluous antequated devices since all phones already tell accurate time.
As a Tudor Black Bay GMT owner, I am aching to also pick up a BB58. If you're on the fence about Tudor, then go to an AD, put one on your wrist ... and you will no longer be on the fence.
This is definitely my next watch, really wanted a black bay but couldn't stand its slab sides and top heavy feel.
I love the 58 concept. I want a not gold version next. I'll trade in my black dial ETA for one in a heartbeat. Maybe have some bracelet options too, a rivet and a non rivet.
They are not going to produce a gold one. That would be right in the middle of Rolex territory. That would make no sense.
The 58 is desiged to compete with the likes of Omega, Tag and so on.
This review is GOLD. Thank you.
Tudor really should get the shield off the Black Bay Fifty-Eight and put the rose back on the dial. Would be a nice way to differentiate it from the original Black Bay. I plan on getting one of these when they introduce more, like a blue bezel version.
I think I could be tempted by the GMT :)
It lies beneath the rose!!!! I love the TUDOR rose on the winder!!!
i think i am going to buy 2 tudors in 6 months time bb chrono and bb 36 or 58.
Great video. Knew it was out there, but didn’t realise all the difference. Superb, quality content.
My hopes are up for a smaller Pelagos, I really like the placed indices, clean look, bracelet clasp diver mechanism spring thing, the coin-edge bezel, the fact that the top click is different from the others so that you can return the bezel to the 12’o clock position without looking, the quality of the titanium finishing (rare to find *cough* Steinhart (I know the Steinhart is in a different price bracelet but still, its sad because I love the design of the Steinhart but cannot bear the finishing issues, Steinhart is great value for money tho, even with all the great watches I use my GMT 38 still gets plenty wrist time) ), the way the beginning of the hands is matched to the dial, the bezel finishing and finally the water resistance is also great.
Some watches can pull of the 42mm size, I’m still in love with my Heuer Carrera for instance. (But the Tag has a lovely gentle, small, thin, sturdy and flexible bracelet and a smaller looking bezel, which makes it wear smaller than it’s size would suggest).
The GMT version of the watch featured in the video would be great; when I wear a GMT I use it quite often just to tell military time. Also the great mechanical feeling of setting a GMT watch is just lovely.
Anyway, great video as always, beautiful watch and cinematography.
What's on the outside of the Tudor is so much nicer. You see way more crowns than shields out in the wild.
I really would love one but I hope they come out with other colour options, gilt watches are just not my thing!
They do. Go to the website and look around. Blue red black
Not in the 39mm, maybe youuuu should go to the website and look around ;)
My next watch
now all i want is a datejust 36 alternative with an in house movement. the 1926 with black dial is almost perfect :)
A GMT hand will make the watch more expensive, which is not in line with Tudor's policy I think. I personally like it better as it is now.
Another great vid. Tudor, like Omega co-axial movements, is simply too thick to keep a comfortable profile. Cases are too thick. Possible the only flaw with many of their watches.
I tried the BB58, but went for the heritage Black Bay instead. It’s such a beautiful watch and fits my wrist perfectly.
Ordered my BB58 2 weeks ago...the 41m was too big for me...can’t wait to pick it up!
That car analogy is spot on
I would buy the 39mm gmt in a heartbeat, great call and fantastic video as always!
The best value diver watch out there currently, fantastic watches 👌👍
Putting money to one side, I’d rather have a BB58 over any watch that Rolex currently makes.
I prefer the Black Bay Heritage Black cos it looks pretty close to a ref 6538 (hands, size and logo aside).
It's a shame Rolex don't do reissues, because I'll tell you what: if they did a homage to their own 6538, they wouldn't be able to sell them fast enough. That said, they don't exactly have a problem selling Steel Sports anyway.
The 41mm Black Bay being "too big" is just the thickness, the answer should've been to reduce the thickness rather than the diameter.
GMT or chrono at the smaller size = break the internet!
Thanks! Just what I was expecting for. Great review and comments
I love my Tudor black bay ! Was worth every penny.
15 mm thick!? My God...I want the date complication but not that thickness, big mistake...I will wait for a 58 date.
I really like this watch, but why the fake rivets?
40-41mm is the perfect size diver IMO 7 1/2 wrist.I reserve 38mm and under for dress watches. But I realize most watch enthusiasts are the frail skinny wrist type
Very nice and indeed finally as I've never fully gelled with my Tudor Black Bay. Now the problem is finding one.
recently purchased a BB in bronze from yourselves. at 43mm I was a tad worried it would arrive and id hate it but its brilliant. but, I'm now thinking how nice it would be at 39mm. they'll realise one I'm sure.
I've been waiting for this review. And put it this way, I would rather have the R8 over the Huracan.
Finally!!
We want more small divers!!!
I have both lol love it hoping they will released a gmt
I believe that 41mm is a great size.
So if it was 41 but thick as the 58 would be perfect
Great video as always!
I wish they came with date. Would be my perfect watch
Trying to get rid of a vintage day date, and chasing this one. Great review.
If the BB58 had a Date, GMT, Bothered with METAS, and had a display case-back, I'd buy it without question.
The 58 to me is positively wonderful! I have small wrists/hands, and anything over 40mm doesn't work for me. I'm happy companies are making smaller watches again. Now if only I had the funds.
I already own the Black Bay. And I want the 58 too. Thanks for the great video!
I own the s&g. I have a 7 inch wrist as well. I absolutely love this watch, but I would prefer it in a 39 mm case.
Anyone else surprised by all the QA issues on the two tone Tudor? Lume at the bottom of the 12 marker and top right of the 6 marker isn't filled in.
Riveted bracelet is a backward step. The BBB rose had the perfect bracelet, and that rose on the dial.
Could I suggest you cover the Oris brand? It is a brand with plenty of history, heritage and patented technologies. It is also independent, unlike some of the horological giants that you cover. Thank you.
Six weeks ago in the Tudor outlet in Siam Paragon, Bangkok, they would discount any watch in the shop by 15% without asking EXCEPT Black Bay 58. Now they will only sell you a 58 if you buy another watch at the same time. Enough! Time to reconsider watch desirability and pricing.
I think this is one of Tudor's best releases in quite some time.
I'm looking at this watch on your website. Why do you not have all the standard dimensions listed?
It seems to be pretty important when buying a watch online.
I see the case diameter is 39mm, but what about lug-to-lug, thickness, diameter with crown, etc.
Thanks!
What are the differences between the two movements?
The gold on the bezel is a bit over the top for me, I wish they kept the bezel markings white, I think the original beats it in that respect, everything else is great though.
I’ve been waiting for the 58 to be in the channel and it’s finally here! I would love if you guys could do a video on the Zenith Defy Classic, Baseworld 2018 release. Cheers!
I hate the “faux vintage” that Tudor is so committed to. The 58 with black/white bezel, white indices, and without the cream “fake age” it would be awesome.
SpartanB88 the blue version of the Black Bay 41 has neutral colored lume and lacks rose gold hands and markers. more modern
Pelagos?
I have had my 58 for some times. I don’t see the gilt as faux vintage. The colour theme is actually not gold, but more goldy gray. It is very subtle and elegance in person IMO.
I have this and it's completely perfect.