The gripes about the marketing make me laugh. These are luxury watches. Nobody’s repairing North Sea Oil Rigs with no-date Submariners any more. Good for Tudor for embracing reality and realizing that their core audience is really people aspiring to a certain kind of lifestyle. You want a tool watch, buy a G-Shock. This is jewelry, and we all know it.
I love the understated look of this Pelagos model. It ticks so many boxes: lightweight yet durable, excellent bezel action, flat dial and hour markers, the colour and design.
Thanks for the feedback. I’m a Pelagos 42 (blue) daily driver. Have a black diver on my buy list in the next 3 months. The 39er is currently one of three top candidates for me. The light weight makes it an absolute plus as the 42 is already such a joy to wear due to its presence to weight ratio.
Great video and overall very helpful comments. However, I have to point out that the only reason you have a clasp issue is because you and your husband open the clasp backwards haha. You pull from the end where the flip lock is located, since the hinge is on the other side. Pretty much this way on any bracelet, ever. Try it out and I'm sure the t-fit will no longer fail you.
@@Gojo2OP Has more to do with the clasp. Maybe the wrist I wear watches on? Not sure but flipping one link, half link, etc doesn’t always do it. Flipping the whole bracelet doesn’t always either.
Love the minimalistic approach, and the square markers match the snowflake hour marker, the round ones just didn’t gel with the rest. Tudor making a watch which is not just a cheap copy, but making its mark, love it. I love the submariner as this is the gold standard, but can’t even get on a waiting list, so I will buy this watch and I like it a lot as an independent quality product.
Great review as always. Just a note on the clasp I open all my Tudors from the security latch side including the T-Fit ones as they have that little thumb catch to pull on. Opening the other way as you mentioned seems very awkward to myself.
Yeah glad someone else noticed that lol. This unwanted opening of the t-fit adjustment is only happening from opening the clasp backwards. It's on a hinge and definitely meant to be pulled from the "top". That's why clasps without the latch (like Omega twin triggers) have the buttons at the top.
Seems like an obvious way to open not sure why he is opening the wrong way. Tudor even has a raised area for your nail to easily fit and release the clasp. So weird.
Thanks for a great review Jenni. I wandered into my friendly AD some weeks ago just after this watch was released and had the chance to look at and try this model but not purchase it. I loved the look and the restrained hue of the titanium. Before seeing it in the flesh I wasn't that bothered as I have the LHD Pelagos. Anyway the 39 is in my humble opinion it's own watch and not just a deflated 42, the sunray dial is very subtle in most cases looking a very deep black and the ceramic lumed markers sitting on the dial and not the sculpted rehaut of the 42 is another differentiator. A week or so after expressing an interest I had the call and it's been on the wrist for a week and have no issues with the clasp. I'll be keeping my LHD 42 for definite as I said these are two quite different watches. It's also a lot different to the 58, that flat sapphire crystal, no high polishing it's like the BB58 takes the inspiration from the past and does it very well, the Pelagos 39 looks to the present.
Thanks for these comments, review was great, but misses the nuance that time on wrist gives. I'll get one I think once back in Europe from Central Asia.
Fantastic review, but why no mention of the paint splatter near the tip of the second hand? (Great macro photography BTW!) If/when I get one, I’m bringing a loupe to double check the quality. That paint splatter would drive me nuts.
@SuperPugCat, it's supposed to be painted like that when you look down on the dial from above the colours merge perfectly with the hour and minute hands and dial....I've had the original pelagos for a few years and would recommend it to anyone.
I get how some love the symmetry of a dateless watch, but I always end up missing the convenience of having a date complication. I’m a function over form guy.
@@lonewolfemcquade8133 meh. I sort of agree with you, but sort of don’t. Tudor divers (i.e. the majority of the Black Bay line are all dateless). If this is the alternative to the BB58c I would have preferred this to have a date. Those who like the dateless look have the BB58 in black or blue to scratch that itch.
@@jasonswitzer1748 When I think of no date complication watches sport watches that is only a few come to mind, Submariner, Explorer 1 which I own, Longines Ultra chron, Omega Speedmaster,Black bay,Oyster perpetuals and probably a few more I'm probably not thinking of but if I would to mention all the sport watches with date's. I probably don't have a enough room in the comment section 🙃 watches with date's clearly win. I am not anti date or anti no date but I like to have some no date complication options. The Longines Ultra chron is at the top of my list and the Doxa 300
Right. Most people who buy luxury watches (divers or what have you) aren't professional divers anyway, and most professional divers dont wear luxury watches (at least not while diving), so big who cares. I'd say that they for once marketed it somewhat honestly.
I have one and have been wearing it nonstop for two weeks. Fantastic. It is the Tudor they have been working towards making. I also have the issue of pulling out the quick adjust fairly often.
Advertising makes no difference to me. I either like the watch or I don’t. In this case I do, very much. There is a wait in the U.K. but agree should not spend overs for any Tudor.
Great review Jenni! Am I the only one who noticed poor QC on that dial? There is a piece of lint painted on the second hand! Very visible in some real scale shots and undeniable under the macro.
HI Jenni, as always, another great video. I picked up the Pelagos 42 3 weeks ago. I have been a little disappointed in the watch. My biggest grip is with the sharp edges around the crown guard. When winding the watch, the edges underneth are sharp and seem unfinished and the bezel is very stiff. It has smoothed out a little with several rotations. I got a decent price at $4200 USD but this price point is not a cheap beater. This is my first Tudor and I am a little underwhelmed. I will continue to wear it and give it a fair judgement. Keep up the good work.
The bezel will become less stiff. Turn it around 10 times and you will see that it will be smooth. Maybe you have to turn and press a little the first round when you start form the firm/fixed position at 12. Crown action is a bit stiff also but this will also be better in a few weeks. Tolerances are tight with this great tool watch. I have the blue by the way. Love it!
@@TheBarts27 I love it. I have a few other watches, but the Tudor has become my daily watch. I am not afraid to bang it up. It does not scratch up easily and it very light for its size.
After putting the Pélagos 39 on my wrist yesterday at the AD, after being on the wait list since the day the watch was announced - I handed it back. This surprised me. On paper (and in the pictures) it was exactly the watch I was looking for. But it’s just as Jenni says, the watch is “just there” - there’s nothing special about it. I can’t explain exactly why but on wrist it left me tepid.
Thank you Jenni - Great macro shots. I think this watch would make a great watch if it is your only watch - but I agree I don't see where it fits in my collection
I can’t believe how different is to see a watch on a video and then have it in your hands and wear it. I went to the Tudor boutique to purchase this model and when I try it out I just didn’t feel right and the only reason was it felt small, I don’t have a big wrist but I just felt small and it wasn’t what I was expecting. In the end I purchased the Pelagos FXD blue and absolutely loved it. Don’t get me wrong the P39 is beautiful but unfortunately didn’t workout for me. Cheers 👍
I've sat with the watch on my wrist at home, watching video reviews for said watch (as you do?) and had to double take the one on my wrist because the macros etc pick up things I just can't see in real life
Did anyone else notice the blob of Lume paint on the second hand, where’s the quality control for these guys. Still is a beautiful watch. Thanks, Jenni😁
I have a theory. If you look at the original marine nationale Tudor submariners, all of their bezels have faded to a bluish gray. So while it may not be as obvious with the black variant, I think the sunburst bezel is going to give that faded effect with the blue (when they release it)
Agree with you. That’s a big chunk of lume on that 2nd hand. I’d be handing it back to AD if I’d been given that watch. Very strange it got through quality control at Tudor.
I have the same issue with the hands, took it back to AD, sent for Tudor to repair (after 1 day of use). It is a shame, I have waited 1 year to purchase.
Tudor gives us a fantastic watch, people find a way to complain about it. Who cares how they market it. They had the first Black Bay on Lady Gaga’s wrist. It’s a winner for me.
Nice to see this in 39mm, I like how Tudor made this made this more like a true tool watch than the 42mm, My daily wear watch for the past 7 years is a grade 2 titanium and although they do scratch a bit easier the brushed finish in the dark grey means the scratches a far less visible than if the watch were in stainless or grade 5 titanium. I'd really like to see someone do a comparison between this watch and the Black Bay 58 in Ceramic
Big Tudor fan; would love to see Tudor take advantage of Rolex’s discontinuation of the Submariner Hulk and add a green dial/green bezel Pelagos. Seems to me a relatively cheap proposition for Tudor since we’re only talking dial and bezel; no retooling of the manufacturing process. I’d be first in line, especially for a 39
I’m not a green fan. But that would be very popular- they should do it. Hope the next version isn’t the standard blue; Tudor needs to mix it up. White?
I love the size of the Pelagos 39 but I'm really bummed that the date function didn't come with, so if/when I decide to try a Pelagos, it'll be the 41mm despite the fact that I don't love the size. Great video. Thanks as always!
I’ve tried this on, I think it might have been just your example that the quick adjust would open when opening the clasp, didn’t have that issue at all.
8:46 I feel you are mistaken. You said the Pelagos 42 has little holes for micro adjustment. The Pelagos 42 does not have holes on the side for micro adjustment. It has a slot on the bottom of the clasp to show the position of each of its adjustment points, as well as the “spring” section at the end. It was actually Tudor’s first attempt at quick adjustment system. Maybe you are thinking of the older clasps on Tudor’s Black Bay bracelets, which have the micro adjustment holes.
I was finally able to put the watch on my wrist this week and I am delighted to say it is near perfect. It does not compare to a Sub but it doesn’t need to. I have to say it is stunning and at this price point it is unbeatable. Wow!
The bracelets really comfortable. Not sure why anyone would want it on the rubber. Ti is good with temperature and hypoallergenic, so the odd lug size doesn't bother me.
I just had a road trip from France to Italy. Almost all ADs have one on display but none available to buy. My local dealer in California said the waitlist is 40 ppl long :/
Jenni, love the videos! Question- You mentioned that this Pelagos 39 is Grade 2 titanium and that the Pelagos 42 is grade 5? I have looked and looked and can find nothing that states the Pelagos 42 is grade 5 Titanium. Can we confirm this anywhere?? I do so hope it is grade 5!
Tudor themselves confirmed that the case and bracelet of the 42 is Grade 2 titanium, but that the trick clasp is Grade 5 titanium. There's a whole WUS thread on it if you go a bit deeper down the rabbit hole.
@@LuisM02 Seems you're right. The information I have seems to be about the buckle on the rubber strap. It was a screenshot from an Instagram-comment from the official Tudor account.
12:29 well, that's not really how they constructed the clasp to be opened, I would consider unhooking the bracelet that way a "hack" on the BB58 and maybe other Tudor models. To avoid your issue just open it the way it was designed by unhooking via the raised area under the shield logo after releasing the flip lock.
Thanks for the info regarding the clasp adjustment. Personally, I am not keen on titanium. I'm actually looking forward to when hopefully the BB58 gets a new clasp and maybe they'll do away with those faux rivets.
I like the clean looks, and of course the light weight. The price is high for what amounts to a 3-hand watch, but if they come out with colored versions (blue, green) I will probably bite the bullet. (I have too many black dials as it is.)
I think you're right , by having a broader appeal it's lost a lot of its identity and querks that make a Pelagos a Pelagos! It will hold great appeal to those that would love a sub , but either can't afford or get one. You're spot on! It's nice but somehow boring.
Still prefer the warmth of the gilt, aluminium bezel and red triangle of the 58 OG.Being content with it has saved me a lot of money.Tried it on Tudor silk strap but missed the heft of the bracelet.Thanks for your review.
It's beautiful and amazing for those who seek titanium. People who like the look and feel of stainless won't hop ship to wear this though, it would need to be on another level of finish like the titanium Grand Seiko cases that don't even look like titanium with that polishing.
@@richardsims3847 Ive went off the gilt. Used to love the bb58 black but now prefer the blue colour way. I actually really really like this new palagos and it's probably the closest you'll ever get to a new Tudor sub. It's a lot more crisp and cleanly executed than the black bb58 and I prefer it. But i wouldn't be unhappy with any Tudor in any colour way, they're all good options. I might be more tempted with the new palagos if they release a blue one. I've had my eye on a blue bb58 but think things could change if they do a blue palagos 39. I really like the black but already have a planet ocean in black so black dialled diver is out of the question.
Good looking watch. I have the GMT and I don’t feel it makes me want another Tudor,time to move on. There are so many great watches out there. Thanks Jenni
I love the GMT, it was my go to watch but I just wish they’d slim it down to the 39mm case size. Got rid of it in favour of a Sea Dweller 4000, the ultimate Rolex sports watch IMHO- no date bubble, classic 40mm case size but with the added bonus of the modern solid link bracelet and machined clasp!
thanks for sharing. great shots ... ready for it one day, lukewarm for it the next... no idea atm ... availability... not in belgium, or they are messing with me. ps. that spec on the seconds hand would bother me silly tho :s
Great review. The Tudor Pelagos is a nice watch, but as all Tudor watches it's a little bit rough. In my opinion it's difficult to compare Tudor to Rolex.
Both 42mm and 39mm Pelagos are Grade 2. Also, the clasp isn’t designed to be opened that way. Open it the way you open a Submariner’s clasp and you won’t have the issue you are having with the “glidelock” unlatching. Even a Submariner’s clasp would unlatch the glidelock if you open it that way.
As the Ambassador of the Super Giant Wrist Alliance I’m here to inform you that the SGWA turns it‘s nose up at this timepiece as outlined in article B of the Below 40mm act of 1956. Here Here!
As a member of the Medium Sized Wrist Fit and Awareness Association of North America. I can confidently say on behalf of the MSWFAANA that this watch is perfectly adequate for our members to wear.
@@Not-a-bot222 excuse me sir but I must insist on seeing your credentials. What group do you represent? I hope it's not one of these fringe splinter groups like the Hublot and Invicta United Front or something like that.
I tried one of these on at a dealer and noticed right away that the handset lume was a darker colour than the dial markers. Passed on the purchase due to this. Research showed that the lume is also weaker on the hands. Maybe this issue has been rectified but it was quite obvious on the example I viewed.
I got my Pelagos 39 a few weeks ago it's a fantastic watch to say I am happy is an understatement.I tried on the Pelagos 42 it felt too big on the wrist.I like the BB 58 but I can't get over those rivets plus they seem to have done too many versions to the point of diluting the watch in my opinion.
what is going on with the finishing of the seconds hand and the specs on the markers? surprised you didn't mention it. we are talking tudor right? looks really sloppy.
Hi Jenni, fan of your videos and work. Thank you for great content. However, I couldn't see any review or thoughts about Longines. I'm curious about your opinion.
Thanks for the video! Don't really understand your criticism on the marketing around the Tudor 39; who really cares? Are you planning to go to the North Pole with the new Ranger? No. Are modern dive watches lifestyle choices and not actual dive watches? Yes. I can't imagine anyone buying this watch feeling obliged to jump into the water in their evening dress 😀.
Agree. When she lead with that, you know it’s a great watch. Tudor thinks they can sell it to both sexes - good for them. At least they admit women exist - she appeared to be wearing her Rolex, who barely acknowledges females.
A quick clarification: seemed like you said that the Pelagos titanium was softer. From redditt forums my understanding is that the titanium is very tougher, tougher than the oyster steel. That said, it scuffs easily (tiny scratches) but over time the oxidation "erases" these... one can also wipe the scratches away literally with an eraser. So very superficial. The clasp is where scratches happen, because the clasp is made from steel.
I bought Pelagos 42mm recently, great watch, looks awesome, on my wrist 6.7 inch 39mm looked too small (in my opinion) so I went with 42mm. Happy with the purchase, recommend.
I must say, I really, really like the dull grey totally not-shiny finish of regular titanium. My first titanium watch was an el-cheapo Lorus and I've loved titanium ever since. This Tudor does titanium really well, I like it.
Exhibit piece looked so good; in person can’t wait for mine to arrive. Was just thinking about adding a Ti watch to the collection; Tudor delivers. Have a few 42mm watches but this is just perfect for my wrist.
Another great video. I have a pure titanium watch, it's very soft. If this is actually grade 2 titanium, it will scratch and dent easily. Time will tell. And for Jenni, some English notes: 1) For measurements, units are countable; some corrected examples: 0:11 "it measures 40 millimetres", 1:24 "it's height is 12 millimetres", 2:05 "water resistant up to 200 metres", 3:01 "it only weighs 110 grams in total", 11:13 "it costs about 4110 euros". If the unit comes after what it's describing, + s. 2) And to confuse the rule from number 1, all adjectives in English are singular so when you said 1:47 "the 150 millimetre wrist circumference" it was👌 3) You can use lume as a verb and say 7:24 "the bezel is also lumed" as in 'Tudor lumed it', thanks Tudor.
Never buy a Tudor above retail. The BB pro is already being sold on eBay at or below retail. Obviously the flippers got that one wrong given the changing economic circumstances. My heart bleeds for them. 😂😂. The 39 Pelagos will be available soon everywhere. If you're on the look out for a Rolex I've got a feeling things will be looking good soon.
You are very right about light weight watches. This is why I really don't like things like the Sub/ Seamaster, and totally love small 36mm watches, or watches on leather straps. It's very comfy to wear a watch less than 100g or so
@@VivatChristusRex99 Back in the day it would have been the same case and crown as a Rolex. Not really what they are doing any more. Now we’re into authorised homage territory
@@b_altmann not really. Snowflake hands has been there for a while. Tudor and Rolex are sister companies. Not really a homage when you’re owned by it lol
@@VivatChristusRex99 and that’s not a negative that they are the only ones who can do it. It makes the watches interesting because they can pick and choose from the archives.
I believe it's a fine watch: P.S. I'd love for you to produce a vid where you just say "Audemars Piquet" and "Vacheron Constantine" on a loop. I'm like Gomez Addams; you melt my heart when you speak French!
I’m a big fan of the Pelagos 39. I agree with everything you say you like and I’m less affected by what you don’t like; i guess that’s why watches appeal as a form of self expression. They allow us to see beauty through someone else’s eyes.
Is that a flaw on the second hand, or some odd design feature? It's very distracting, and unsettling if it's a mistake that wasn't caught by Tudor's quality inspection team.
Shame about the terrible finish on the second hand. Cheers Jenni. Hope you and Kai are well 👍 Nothing wrong with the marketing, boys, girls, swim, or dress up, a watch for all occasions. Love it, no date, nice and plain, like a BMW dash, no bells and whistles, perfect.
Yeah, I noticed that glob on the finish of the second hand- that would annoy me and I would always notice it! That being said it’s a nice watch, but I’m satisfied with my original 42 version and has been a real workhorse in my collection.
For real!! Was looking for a comment about the blemish on the second hand haha. This is a $4k watch, which is crazy in the first place, and then it has that??? Unreal, probably just an unlucky draw with this unit, but still very surprising it made it through.
I'm amazed, with all the gripes that were called out, that this HUGE quality control issue was omitted. Once you see it, it can't be unseen. I guess, when you're gonna sell off one of your watches, you don't want to point out an objectively bad issue.
Honestly who cares about the marketing. I don’t think I’ve ever seen the marketing videos for any watch I own. I see your point on the clasp but I’ve never had an issue, he could just open the clasp from the front, most people do it that way anyway. Good review thanks!
I hate to say this as someone who has a small wrist, but the sum of the design changes are to make the Pelagos 39 look like a downmarket Sub - Ti notwithstanding. Thanks for the review Jenni.
The new dial looks more refined to me. I wonder a) whether there would be a blue version of it and b) does this watch means slimmer Tudors in the future?
Really glad Tudor is adding options for us small wristed but wish the just kept it the same as the 42, really lost a lot of the unique/cool factor with the changes, especially the rehault and bezel finish.
I have one, the titanium scratches very easy, I have desk dive marks all over the clasp from wearing it in bed... But you can take the scratches out with an INK rubber...
Jenni reviewing adverts?? C’mon that won’t have anything to do with the watch will it? Now very happy to watch your channel discussing ads as I love sales and marketing but not here…………. 😒 Now a question (as we have gone off piste today) I happened to mention/show your post lockdown hair to a lady friend and suggested she do the same. It went down like a lead balloon! Why? You girls are always choosing styles from magazines etc, why was I so wrong? Enjoyed your video by the way. Kindest Bob England
I know the clasp action on Tudor/Rolex is top notch but from the looks of it, it looks like a 1/3 of the bracket is clasp. Is that comfortable to wear? For sitting at a desk for example. I know this is a sports watch but for a one watch kinda guy?
Thanks for the review. I would have liked it to have a date complication as its 42mm counterpart. It would have been perfect. I support I will still wait.
i wore a second generation pelagos daily for a little over a year. my biggest gripes were 1) too thicc 2) titanium is soft and scratches easily, and i have owned many titanium watches. ti watches with surface treatment from citizen and seiko (duratect and diashield) are far superior. hell my steinhart 500 that i wore for a couple of years held up much better
The gripes about the marketing make me laugh. These are luxury watches. Nobody’s repairing North Sea Oil Rigs with no-date Submariners any more. Good for Tudor for embracing reality and realizing that their core audience is really people aspiring to a certain kind of lifestyle.
You want a tool watch, buy a G-Shock. This is jewelry, and we all know it.
So true. Reality check!
I'd argue that's precisely the reason why you should go for the version you like more from an aesthetic point of view.
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Hell yeah, well said
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I love the understated look of this Pelagos model. It ticks so many boxes: lightweight yet durable, excellent bezel action, flat dial and hour markers, the colour and design.
Do you have one?
Thanks for the feedback. I’m a Pelagos 42 (blue) daily driver. Have a black diver on my buy list in the next 3 months. The 39er is currently one of three top candidates for me. The light weight makes it an absolute plus as the 42 is already such a joy to wear due to its presence to weight ratio.
Great video and overall very helpful comments. However, I have to point out that the only reason you have a clasp issue is because you and your husband open the clasp backwards haha. You pull from the end where the flip lock is located, since the hinge is on the other side. Pretty much this way on any bracelet, ever. Try it out and I'm sure the t-fit will no longer fail you.
They are both not the sharpest tool in the shed.
They could flip it or maybe they already have. I have found that a flipped bracelet on some watches fits me better. Not sure why.
@@Judah.Rosenthal maybe you are removing the links on one side more when you should be doing it to the other side
@@Gojo2OP Has more to do with the clasp. Maybe the wrist I wear watches on? Not sure but flipping one link, half link, etc doesn’t always do it. Flipping the whole bracelet doesn’t always either.
@@chrismountbatton5260 lol i agree
Love the minimalistic approach, and the square markers match the snowflake hour marker, the round ones just didn’t gel with the rest. Tudor making a watch which is not just a cheap copy, but making its mark, love it. I love the submariner as this is the gold standard, but can’t even get on a waiting list, so I will buy this watch and I like it a lot as an independent quality product.
Great review as always. Just a note on the clasp I open all my Tudors from the security latch side including the T-Fit ones as they have that little thumb catch to pull on. Opening the other way as you mentioned seems very awkward to myself.
Exactly!
Yeah glad someone else noticed that lol. This unwanted opening of the t-fit adjustment is only happening from opening the clasp backwards. It's on a hinge and definitely meant to be pulled from the "top". That's why clasps without the latch (like Omega twin triggers) have the buttons at the top.
Seems like an obvious way to open not sure why he is opening the wrong way. Tudor even has a raised area for your nail to easily fit and release the clasp. So weird.
Thanks for a great review Jenni. I wandered into my friendly AD some weeks ago just after this watch was released and had the chance to look at and try this model but not purchase it. I loved the look and the restrained hue of the titanium. Before seeing it in the flesh I wasn't that bothered as I have the LHD Pelagos. Anyway the 39 is in my humble opinion it's own watch and not just a deflated 42, the sunray dial is very subtle in most cases looking a very deep black and the ceramic lumed markers sitting on the dial and not the sculpted rehaut of the 42 is another differentiator. A week or so after expressing an interest I had the call and it's been on the wrist for a week and have no issues with the clasp. I'll be keeping my LHD 42 for definite as I said these are two quite different watches. It's also a lot different to the 58, that flat sapphire crystal, no high polishing it's like the BB58 takes the inspiration from the past and does it very well, the Pelagos 39 looks to the present.
Thanks for these comments, review was great, but misses the nuance that time on wrist gives. I'll get one I think once back in Europe from Central Asia.
@@alastairmurray770 Good luck! Having a hard time in Asia.
Fantastic review, but why no mention of the paint splatter near the tip of the second hand? (Great macro photography BTW!) If/when I get one, I’m bringing a loupe to double check the quality. That paint splatter would drive me nuts.
Noticed this straight away…just looks a bit shoddy when you bear in mind the technicians that assemble these wear a loupe of some description
imperfection paint job on the second hand? for a watch that coast that much?
Yeah I spotted this to, unforgivable
Yup. Should never have left the factory with that but they would fix it pretty quickly if you raised it.
Doesn’t inspire confidence
@SuperPugCat, it's supposed to be painted like that when you look down on the dial from above the colours merge perfectly with the hour and minute hands and dial....I've had the original pelagos for a few years and would recommend it to anyone.
Very nice looking watch, looks better without the date, just like the Submariner.
I get how some love the symmetry of a dateless watch, but I always end up missing the convenience of having a date complication. I’m a function over form guy.
I agree 👍 date window fan's have their pick of the litter. We don't have nearly as many no date options as watches with date's
@@lonewolfemcquade8133 meh. I sort of agree with you, but sort of don’t. Tudor divers (i.e. the majority of the Black Bay line are all dateless). If this is the alternative to the BB58c I would have preferred this to have a date. Those who like the dateless look have the BB58 in black or blue to scratch that itch.
@@jasonswitzer1748 When I think of no date complication watches sport watches that is only a few come to mind, Submariner, Explorer 1 which I own, Longines Ultra chron, Omega Speedmaster,Black bay,Oyster perpetuals and probably a few more I'm probably not thinking of but if I would to mention all the sport watches with date's. I probably don't have a enough room in the comment section 🙃 watches with date's clearly win. I am not anti date or anti no date but I like to have some no date complication options. The Longines Ultra chron is at the top of my list and the Doxa 300
I really like the size, and I've always loved the look of the Pelagos. Wonderful watch and great review.
Solid review, and amazing macro photography (but I don’t think the marketing strategy should influence how you evaluate the watch itself).
Right. Most people who buy luxury watches (divers or what have you) aren't professional divers anyway, and most professional divers dont wear luxury watches (at least not while diving), so big who cares. I'd say that they for once marketed it somewhat honestly.
I have one and have been wearing it nonstop for two weeks. Fantastic. It is the Tudor they have been working towards making. I also have the issue of pulling out the quick adjust fairly often.
Did anyone else notice the defect or the piece of hair/lint that's stuck on the second hand tip (1:51~1:52)
Advertising makes no difference to me. I either like the watch or I don’t. In this case I do, very much. There is a wait in the U.K. but agree should not spend overs for any Tudor.
Correction pelagos 42 is made from grade 2 titanium. I have one and I love it but 39 looks amazing
Not true...my Tudor Pelagos 42 is Grade 5 Ti.
@@alanalbright69 what year is it? Mine is 2022 and is grade 2
@@alanalbright69 everyone I know says grade 2
@@ugeneousdefo grade 2 , which is fine 😊
Great review Jenni! Am I the only one who noticed poor QC on that dial? There is a piece of lint painted on the second hand! Very visible in some real scale shots and undeniable under the macro.
I saw this. Looks terrible IMO
HI Jenni, as always, another great video. I picked up the Pelagos 42 3 weeks ago. I have been a little disappointed in the watch. My biggest grip is with the sharp edges around the crown guard. When winding the watch, the edges underneth are sharp and seem unfinished and the bezel is very stiff. It has smoothed out a little with several rotations. I got a decent price at $4200 USD but this price point is not a cheap beater. This is my first Tudor and I am a little underwhelmed. I will continue to wear it and give it a fair judgement. Keep up the good work.
The bezel will become less stiff. Turn it around 10 times and you will see that it will be smooth. Maybe you have to turn and press a little the first round when you start form the firm/fixed position at 12. Crown action is a bit stiff also but this will also be better in a few weeks. Tolerances are tight with this great tool watch. I have the blue by the way. Love it!
How do you like it now?
@@TheBarts27 I love it. I have a few other watches, but the Tudor has become my daily watch. I am not afraid to bang it up. It does not scratch up easily and it very light for its size.
@@drzaius844 Love it.
After putting the Pélagos 39 on my wrist yesterday at the AD, after being on the wait list since the day the watch was announced - I handed it back. This surprised me. On paper (and in the pictures) it was exactly the watch I was looking for. But it’s just as Jenni says, the watch is “just there” - there’s nothing special about it. I can’t explain exactly why but on wrist it left me tepid.
I was exactly the same. I got first refusal and actually did refuse it. Too plain, no buzz and felt cheap.
Thank you Jenni - Great macro shots. I think this watch would make a great watch if it is your only watch - but I agree I don't see where it fits in my collection
Good points. I hadn’t seen the comments around the dial. Still probably my top dive watch.
I can’t believe how different is to see a watch on a video and then have it in your hands and wear it. I went to the Tudor boutique to purchase this model and when I try it out I just didn’t feel right and the only reason was it felt small, I don’t have a big wrist but I just felt small and it wasn’t what I was expecting. In the end I purchased the Pelagos FXD blue and absolutely loved it. Don’t get me wrong the P39 is beautiful but unfortunately didn’t workout for me. Cheers 👍
I've sat with the watch on my wrist at home, watching video reviews for said watch (as you do?) and had to double take the one on my wrist because the macros etc pick up things I just can't see in real life
Hello Jenni ... Great channel ... 👏 what is the watch case u are using in Yr collection ?
I love this 39mm version, so glad they’ve made it, great video, thanks.
Did anyone else notice the blob of Lume paint on the second hand, where’s the quality control for these guys. Still is a beautiful watch. Thanks, Jenni😁
I have a theory. If you look at the original marine nationale Tudor submariners, all of their bezels have faded to a bluish gray. So while it may not be as obvious with the black variant, I think the sunburst bezel is going to give that faded effect with the blue (when they release it)
I couldn't take my eye off the second hand and the imperfection with the paint near the end.
What's wrong with the hand?
@@DarthJabba504 check out 2:07 towards the end of second hand has some extra paint layered up. Probably specific to this exact watch and not all them.
Agree with you. That’s a big chunk of lume on that 2nd hand. I’d be handing it back to AD if I’d been given that watch. Very strange it got through quality control at Tudor.
Agree would do my head in over time 😅
I have the same issue with the hands, took it back to AD, sent for Tudor to repair (after 1 day of use). It is a shame, I have waited 1 year to purchase.
Tudor gives us a fantastic watch, people find a way to complain about it. Who cares how they market it. They had the first Black Bay on Lady Gaga’s wrist. It’s a winner for me.
The only complaint I have about mine is the clasp being too big. I think it would also be cool if they added a date option eventually
Nice to see this in 39mm, I like how Tudor made this made this more like a true tool watch than the 42mm, My daily wear watch for the past 7 years is a grade 2 titanium and although they do scratch a bit easier the brushed finish in the dark grey means the scratches a far less visible than if the watch were in stainless or grade 5 titanium. I'd really like to see someone do a comparison between this watch and the Black Bay 58 in Ceramic
Big Tudor fan; would love to see Tudor take advantage of Rolex’s discontinuation of the Submariner Hulk and add a green dial/green bezel Pelagos. Seems to me a relatively cheap proposition for Tudor since we’re only talking dial and bezel; no retooling of the manufacturing process. I’d be first in line, especially for a 39
I’m not a green fan. But that would be very popular- they should do it. Hope the next version isn’t the standard blue; Tudor needs to mix it up. White?
I love the size of the Pelagos 39 but I'm really bummed that the date function didn't come with, so if/when I decide to try a Pelagos, it'll be the 41mm despite the fact that I don't love the size. Great video. Thanks as always!
the camera work on this video is amazing!
I’ve tried this on, I think it might have been just your example that the quick adjust would open when opening the clasp, didn’t have that issue at all.
8:46 I feel you are mistaken. You said the Pelagos 42 has little holes for micro adjustment. The Pelagos 42 does not have holes on the side for micro adjustment. It has a slot on the bottom of the clasp to show the position of each of its adjustment points, as well as the “spring” section at the end. It was actually Tudor’s first attempt at quick adjustment system. Maybe you are thinking of the older clasps on Tudor’s Black Bay bracelets, which have the micro adjustment holes.
I was finally able to put the watch on my wrist this week and I am delighted to say it is near perfect. It does not compare to a Sub but it doesn’t need to. I have to say it is stunning and at this price point it is unbeatable. Wow!
The 21mm lugs whhhhyyyyyyy?! 😢
Yeah, one of my only issues with the P39
Tbf I usually just jam a 22mm strap in there
Why not
The bracelets really comfortable. Not sure why anyone would want it on the rubber. Ti is good with temperature and hypoallergenic, so the odd lug size doesn't bother me.
I just had a road trip from France to Italy. Almost all ADs have one on display but none available to buy. My local dealer in California said the waitlist is 40 ppl long :/
Thank you so much mamacoo for taking us shopping🛍…my wish list just got longer
Jenni, love the videos! Question- You mentioned that this Pelagos 39 is Grade 2 titanium and that the Pelagos 42 is grade 5? I have looked and looked and can find nothing that states the Pelagos 42 is grade 5 Titanium. Can we confirm this anywhere?? I do so hope it is grade 5!
I have the 42, 99% sure it's grade 2 from the colour, grade 5 has a lot of alloy in it, much harder to machine.
Tudor themselves confirmed that the case and bracelet of the 42 is Grade 2 titanium, but that the trick clasp is Grade 5 titanium. There's a whole WUS thread on it if you go a bit deeper down the rabbit hole.
Hi, the clasp on the Pelagos 42 is stainless steel… titanium reacts with titanium and can jamb. It’s a common problem with titanium bike parts…
@@tomsjoberg4909 Clasp on the original is stainless steel which contributes to the addition weight.
@@LuisM02 Seems you're right. The information I have seems to be about the buckle on the rubber strap. It was a screenshot from an Instagram-comment from the official Tudor account.
The obvious hair under the paint on the second hand should have been caught by quality control, don’t you think?
12:29 well, that's not really how they constructed the clasp to be opened, I would consider unhooking the bracelet that way a "hack" on the BB58 and maybe other Tudor models. To avoid your issue just open it the way it was designed by unhooking via the raised area under the shield logo after releasing the flip lock.
Agreed 100%. Even a Submariner would do this if you are able to open the Sub’s clasp that way.
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Thanks for the info regarding the clasp adjustment. Personally, I am not keen on titanium. I'm actually looking forward to when hopefully the BB58 gets a new clasp and maybe they'll do away with those faux rivets.
The video colour grading is so nice! The warm tone, deep blacks and bokeh makes the video so engaging to me. The watch is nice too XD
I like the clean looks, and of course the light weight. The price is high for what amounts to a 3-hand watch, but if they come out with colored versions (blue, green) I will probably bite the bullet. (I have too many black dials as it is.)
Is it me or on the 2:17 you can clearly see the BLOB OF LUME ON THE SECONDS HAND. About which quality we are talking about for 4.5k??
I think you're right , by having a broader appeal it's lost a lot of its identity and querks that make a Pelagos a Pelagos! It will hold great appeal to those that would love a sub , but either can't afford or get one. You're spot on! It's nice but somehow boring.
Still prefer the warmth of the gilt, aluminium bezel and red triangle of the 58 OG.Being content with it has saved me a lot of money.Tried it on Tudor silk strap but missed the heft of the bracelet.Thanks for your review.
It's beautiful and amazing for those who seek titanium.
People who like the look and feel of stainless won't hop ship to wear this though, it would need to be on another level of finish like the titanium Grand Seiko cases that don't even look like titanium with that polishing.
Gilt instead of gold gives a cheap feeling for a "luxury" watch.
@@ppbur As I wear all the time tend to think of it as more tool than luxury especially as it is, relatively,"cheap".
@@richardsims3847 Ive went off the gilt. Used to love the bb58 black but now prefer the blue colour way. I actually really really like this new palagos and it's probably the closest you'll ever get to a new Tudor sub. It's a lot more crisp and cleanly executed than the black bb58 and I prefer it. But i wouldn't be unhappy with any Tudor in any colour way, they're all good options. I might be more tempted with the new palagos if they release a blue one. I've had my eye on a blue bb58 but think things could change if they do a blue palagos 39. I really like the black but already have a planet ocean in black so black dialled diver is out of the question.
@@frankdux5693 Yes some variety is needed and choice of colour is affected by skin tone.
Great review as always! 👍 Just noticed the tip of the seconds hand looks like it has too much paint on it. QC issue I guess?
IMO that is unacceptable at this price point.
Where did you get the information that Pelagos 42 is made from grade 5 titanium???
Good looking watch. I have the GMT and I don’t feel it makes me want another Tudor,time to move on. There are so many great watches out there. Thanks Jenni
I love the GMT, it was my go to watch but I just wish they’d slim it down to the 39mm case size. Got rid of it in favour of a Sea Dweller 4000, the ultimate Rolex sports watch IMHO- no date bubble, classic 40mm case size but with the added bonus of the modern solid link bracelet and machined clasp!
Same here. I already own the Tudor BB GMT and do not feel the need for another Tudor. On the Rolex waiting list now…lol
thanks for sharing. great shots ... ready for it one day, lukewarm for it the next... no idea atm ... availability... not in belgium, or they are messing with me. ps. that spec on the seconds hand would bother me silly tho :s
Great review. The Tudor Pelagos is a nice watch, but as all Tudor watches it's a little bit rough.
In my opinion it's difficult to compare Tudor to Rolex.
Tudor just a cheaper clone of Rolex , especially this watch compared to the Submariner !
And Rolex dosen't have any where near the QC issues as Tudor
@@lonewolfemcquade8133 Tudor too busy copying everything Rolex have created
@@michaeljay3846 😅You definitely aren't wrong
Both 42mm and 39mm Pelagos are Grade 2.
Also, the clasp isn’t designed to be opened that way. Open it the way you open a Submariner’s clasp and you won’t have the issue you are having with the “glidelock” unlatching.
Even a Submariner’s clasp would unlatch the glidelock if you open it that way.
What are your views on Konstantin Chaykin's watches and specifically his Jocker style watch ????
As the Ambassador of the Super Giant Wrist Alliance I’m here to inform you that the SGWA turns it‘s nose up at this timepiece as outlined in article B of the Below 40mm act of 1956. Here Here!
As a member of the Medium Sized Wrist Fit and Awareness Association of North America. I can confidently say on behalf of the MSWFAANA that this watch is perfectly adequate for our members to wear.
@@user-deleted please keep this thread going! I’m dying
@@Not-a-bot222 excuse me sir but I must insist on seeing your credentials. What group do you represent? I hope it's not one of these fringe splinter groups like the Hublot and Invicta United Front or something like that.
@@user-deleted my apologies, I am the President and founder of the Paneristi Perpetual Panel of Palatable Pieces. P5 for short or the PPPoP of course.
What’s here ?
I tried one of these on at a dealer and noticed right away that the handset lume was a darker colour than the dial markers. Passed on the purchase due to this. Research showed that the lume is also weaker on the hands. Maybe this issue has been rectified but it was quite obvious on the example I viewed.
I got my Pelagos 39 a few weeks ago it's a fantastic watch to say I am happy is an understatement.I tried on the Pelagos 42 it felt too big on the wrist.I like the BB 58 but I can't get over those rivets plus they seem to have done too many versions to the point of diluting the watch in my opinion.
The second hand has a defect in the paint 3 mm below the end side 😮
what is going on with the finishing of the seconds hand and the specs on the markers? surprised you didn't mention it. we are talking tudor right? looks really sloppy.
I think if you have sub no date, a BB58, or a pelagos 42, this watch is to similar and probably not different enough to purchase.
For scratches you can easily just look up the Vikers scale online for material to see whether SS is harder than Titanium 2
Excellent review, Congrats for it. I am on waiting list to receive my Pelagos 42 LHD as I wear watches on my right wrist.
Hi Jenni, fan of your videos and work. Thank you for great content.
However, I couldn't see any review or thoughts about Longines.
I'm curious about your opinion.
Is there a hair sprayed in the paint on the minute hand? See 7:04
Great review. Thank you. The photography is some of the best I've seen.
Thanks for the video! Don't really understand your criticism on the marketing around the Tudor 39; who really cares? Are you planning to go to the North Pole with the new Ranger? No. Are modern dive watches lifestyle choices and not actual dive watches? Yes.
I can't imagine anyone buying this watch feeling obliged to jump into the water in their evening dress 😀.
Agree. When she lead with that, you know it’s a great watch. Tudor thinks they can sell it to both sexes - good for them. At least they admit women exist - she appeared to be wearing her Rolex, who barely acknowledges females.
What’s the blemish on the second hand? It looks like a hair got on the hand whilst adding lume. I can’t under this now.
Saw that too and there were a couple other imperfections. The finish was just not the best.
A quick clarification: seemed like you said that the Pelagos titanium was softer. From redditt forums my understanding is that the titanium is very tougher, tougher than the oyster steel. That said, it scuffs easily (tiny scratches) but over time the oxidation "erases" these... one can also wipe the scratches away literally with an eraser. So very superficial. The clasp is where scratches happen, because the clasp is made from steel.
Interested to hear how easy it scratches through general wear and tear.
I bought Pelagos 42mm recently, great watch, looks awesome, on my wrist 6.7 inch 39mm looked too small (in my opinion) so I went with 42mm. Happy with the purchase, recommend.
I must say, I really, really like the dull grey totally not-shiny finish of regular titanium. My first titanium watch was an el-cheapo Lorus and I've loved titanium ever since.
This Tudor does titanium really well, I like it.
Exhibit piece looked so good; in person can’t wait for mine to arrive. Was just thinking about adding a Ti watch to the collection; Tudor delivers. Have a few 42mm watches but this is just perfect for my wrist.
Another great video. I have a pure titanium watch, it's very soft. If this is actually grade 2 titanium, it will scratch and dent easily. Time will tell.
And for Jenni, some English notes:
1) For measurements, units are countable; some corrected examples: 0:11 "it measures 40 millimetres", 1:24 "it's height is 12 millimetres", 2:05 "water resistant up to 200 metres", 3:01 "it only weighs 110 grams in total", 11:13 "it costs about 4110 euros". If the unit comes after what it's describing, + s.
2) And to confuse the rule from number 1, all adjectives in English are singular so when you said 1:47 "the 150 millimetre wrist circumference" it was👌
3) You can use lume as a verb and say 7:24 "the bezel is also lumed" as in 'Tudor lumed it', thanks Tudor.
Jenni, thank you. However the clasp and the bracelet of the watch are.great. Never heard of anyone having a problem with opening the quick adjustment.
At 2:54 you say Grade 5 Titanium like used in the Pelagos 42, but both are Grade 2.
This is correct! Both are Grade 2
Never buy a Tudor above retail. The BB pro is already being sold on eBay at or below retail. Obviously the flippers got that one wrong given the changing economic circumstances. My heart bleeds for them. 😂😂. The 39 Pelagos will be available soon everywhere. If you're on the look out for a Rolex I've got a feeling things will be looking good soon.
Enjoyed your video. Very informative. Was very surprised to see you with tattoos.
You are very right about light weight watches. This is why I really don't like things like the Sub/ Seamaster, and totally love small 36mm watches, or watches on leather straps. It's very comfy to wear a watch less than 100g or so
My steel omega Railmaster 39mm is just 99 gram on a bracelet. So not that impressed
@@btruijens000 beautiful choice! I have an IWC Mark 16 which is 75grams on the leather strap. Love it
Pelagos FXD 87gr
I think what is great about the bigger blue Pelagos is that it doesn’t try to look like a Submariner. It’s independent and quite special
This one does the same. After all, Tudor submariner was a thing
@@VivatChristusRex99 Back in the day it would have been the same case and crown as a Rolex. Not really what they are doing any more. Now we’re into authorised homage territory
@@b_altmann not really. Snowflake hands has been there for a while. Tudor and Rolex are sister companies. Not really a homage when you’re owned by it lol
@@VivatChristusRex99 that’s why I said authorised homage. LOL
@@VivatChristusRex99 and that’s not a negative that they are the only ones who can do it. It makes the watches interesting because they can pick and choose from the archives.
I believe it's a fine watch: P.S. I'd love for you to produce a vid where you just say "Audemars Piquet" and "Vacheron Constantine" on a loop. I'm like Gomez Addams; you melt my heart when you speak French!
I’m a big fan of the Pelagos 39. I agree with everything you say you like and I’m less affected by what you don’t like; i guess that’s why watches appeal as a form of self expression. They allow us to see beauty through someone else’s eyes.
Lovely video - and great review, as always.
Hi Jenni. Which Tudor watch would you recommend for a lady with a small (145mm) wrist that she can enjoy now and hand down to her son in future?
Is that a flaw on the second hand, or some odd design feature? It's very distracting, and unsettling if it's a mistake that wasn't caught by Tudor's quality inspection team.
and it is disturbing that she doesn't mention it. there is clearly a piece of hair or dust on the tip of the second hand under the white paint.
That first what I saw . That says a lot about there quality control
saw it too, im surprised it passed QC
Tudor QC issues are a little bit too much. Personally I rather buy a Longines Ultra chron or Longines Gmt
It’s a Volkswagen not Buggati. So what do you expect. Spend ur money on Omega instead.
Shame about the terrible finish on the second hand. Cheers Jenni. Hope you and Kai are well 👍
Nothing wrong with the marketing, boys, girls, swim, or dress up, a watch for all occasions.
Love it, no date, nice and plain, like a BMW dash, no bells and whistles, perfect.
Yeah, I noticed that glob on the finish of the second hand- that would annoy me and I would always notice it! That being said it’s a nice watch, but I’m satisfied with my original 42 version and has been a real workhorse in my collection.
For real!! Was looking for a comment about the blemish on the second hand haha. This is a $4k watch, which is crazy in the first place, and then it has that??? Unreal, probably just an unlucky draw with this unit, but still very surprising it made it through.
I'm amazed, with all the gripes that were called out, that this HUGE quality control issue was omitted.
Once you see it, it can't be unseen.
I guess, when you're gonna sell off one of your watches, you don't want to point out an objectively bad issue.
Honestly who cares about the marketing. I don’t think I’ve ever seen the marketing videos for any watch I own. I see your point on the clasp but I’ve never had an issue, he could just open the clasp from the front, most people do it that way anyway. Good review thanks!
I hate to say this as someone who has a small wrist, but the sum of the design changes are to make the Pelagos 39 look like a downmarket Sub - Ti notwithstanding. Thanks for the review Jenni.
The new dial looks more refined to me. I wonder a) whether there would be a blue version of it and b) does this watch means slimmer Tudors in the future?
Thanks for the review, Jenni
Really cool tattoo(s), is there a specific name for this style?
Really glad Tudor is adding options for us small wristed but wish the just kept it the same as the 42, really lost a lot of the unique/cool factor with the changes, especially the rehault and bezel finish.
Thanks for explaining strap change is the old fashion way with tools! First review that has advised this.
I have one, the titanium scratches very easy, I have desk dive marks all over the clasp from wearing it in bed... But you can take the scratches out with an INK rubber...
yep! I got a tudor black bay pro two months ago in italy while here in switzerland they put you on “the list”
Jenni reviewing adverts?? C’mon that won’t have anything to do with the watch will it?
Now very happy to watch your channel discussing ads as I love sales and marketing but not here…………. 😒
Now a question (as we have gone off piste today) I happened to mention/show your post lockdown hair to a lady friend and suggested she do the same. It went down like a lead balloon! Why? You girls are always choosing styles from magazines etc, why was I so wrong?
Enjoyed your video by the way.
Kindest
Bob
England
I know the clasp action on Tudor/Rolex is top notch but from the looks of it, it looks like a 1/3 of the bracket is clasp. Is that comfortable to wear? For sitting at a desk for example. I know this is a sports watch but for a one watch kinda guy?
Thanks for the review. I would have liked it to have a date complication as its 42mm counterpart. It would have been perfect. I support I will still wait.
Great review, and amazing b roll footage!
This may be my first Tudor (and Luxury) watch. I love the matte look, size, and materials.
i wore a second generation pelagos daily for a little over a year. my biggest gripes were 1) too thicc 2) titanium is soft and scratches easily, and i have owned many titanium watches. ti watches with surface treatment from citizen and seiko (duratect and diashield) are far superior. hell my steinhart 500 that i wore for a couple of years held up much better