The preconception at the start of the video is erroneous. What you’re doing is simply making a saw-sword, *not* a chain-sword, since by making the saw teeth static you are wholly eliminating the *chain* part. The Chainsword *is* a chainsaw that you wield like a *sword.* So what if the only functional difference is the way you hold it? What you are doing is reducing the efficinecy by removing the circulation of the chain, so that instead of slice+circulation you have only slice. Sure, that reduces the weight since you don’t have an engine… but it also removes pretty much *all* of the point. At that stage, you might as well put a hilt on a normal saw - *because that’s basically what you have.* Real stunning 1:1 recreation, there. To cure your OCD, just add (saw) to every chain weapon in wh40k - chainswords, chainaxes, chain-halberds. And it’s almost like they are not made to hack into small, light targets that move easily when struck, but bigger, bulkier things with enough mass and more of a fibrous structure… like Orks. There was a dude who built a 'chain-halberd'-like project with a custom motor, which practically could have been a sword, but I dont think he wanted the risk of having his hands close to the blade when it was spinning. In reality, you have to make alterations to the blueprint in several ways - like having a chain that cannot jump off the blade, for one. And what I want to see is someone addressing the problem of rotational torque, that 'twisting' force a spinning or rotating object exerts when swung that moves it out of alignment unless you counter it with either muscle force, some kind of compensator, or… add a second chain next to the first that is in opposite orientation and spin direction. And then ramp up the RPMs and get a chain with teeth designed for combat, not wood-cutting.
Bud, a 1:1 chainsword would be the size of his entire upper torso in length, have regenerating saw teeth, and be capable of cutting metals we don’t have on Earth. How precisely do you believe a man in his shed could possibly create adamantine?
@@spartanhawk7637 Nice strawman, as the materials of 40k have nothing to do with anything. Also you can absolutely make a reasonably sized chain-sword in a garage, you'd need a small motor, proper mounts and the chainsaw blade at approximately sword length, which are a thing. It'd be a bot pricy depending on what you have access to buy, but is completely doable. @spartanhawk7637 is right, this video is pointless because he makes the chain static. If he wasn't even going to try to do it properly he might as well have not done it at all.
@@MrKOLCOO not sure you've ever seen how diamond blades work. They're very slow, that's to reduce the risk of chipping and breaking. Diamond is very hard but not durable at all. Anyone who has had an active or careless wife can attest to this
Brother Tyranth! The mediocre results come from lacking devotion to the machine spirit of your sword. This is not a technical problem. It is a problem of your soul. Dedicate your thoughts and your soul to the Omnissiah and your weapon will function better. If you appease the machine spirit enough, you might not need gloves anymore for the weapon will accept you as its wielder. May the Omnissiah bless your video for it is a vessel of holy information.
Really the chain is incidental in this build. It's basically just a saw. Though chain saw teeth are different from other saw teeth, you're not really taking advantage of that if it's not moving quickly. Plus chain saw blades are designed to only sink so deep per cut, that's why it has guide teeth, so it's got a self-limited effectiveness at cutting. That's so that the chain doesn't bind, but again, with a fixed position, that doesn't really apply the same way. P.S. My thought when hearing Chain Sword is of Ivy's Whip Sword (or Snake Sword) from Soulcalibur.
We start out by affixing the chain to the bar, with apoxy... *Blows into both hands before loudly clapping them together* **BOY** Being an outspoken fan of the franchise, and mostly liking the boys sense of 'professionalism' whacking shit out in the woods. Im hoping this comes off nice, cause I'm really trying to channel the Dad energy with this one. A Chain sword is not what you think either lol. Its a hand held band saw. I said it before in one of the Shad videos lately. It is a hand held chain saw. Its got its own martial art in universe. The tiny promethium fueled engine in the hilt and pommel, don't just make the blade work like an electric carver, reciprocating in place. Its a Continuous Blade Band saw, Like a Chain links, with a Multispeed Multidirectional gearbox that's gunna be able to generate alot more speed and torque. The people that train with it understand how the inertia of the chain revving forward or back influences the cut. The example I pointed out was knowing when to run the chain forwards or backwards. People that like Warhammer. REALLLY like warhammer. Take the L, you did this one wrong.
Isn't the point of the "Chainsword" is that when you have swung the weapon, and it's lodged in some killer alien bug, you can activate the chainsaw function and continue to saw the killer alien bug to pieces?
A chainsaw chain doesn't really "cut" though. It chips the wood, very rapidly. In fact, a traditional unpowered saw does more actual cutting due to the shape of the serrations. So what would be needed is a chain festooned with multiple small cutting blades.
Chip isn’t even the right word it’s a planing action removing material in a strip depending on the depth guide in front of the tooth. But for sure it’s not cutting.
All in all, shouldn't have bothered since he's lacking resources to make anything of worth here, especially since it's dangerous Instead of going forward with flawed argumentation to justify this build Could've chosen a different weapon, like a massive hammer
@@shocktnc Exactly. It's not a matter of basically just taking a regular chainsaw chain and putting it with a motor on a sword blade and expect a 1:1 functional equivalent. The entire chain itself would need to be modified or even be built from scratch.
As someone who's been cut to the ribs by a chain saw it doesn't cut flesh it just rips and takes chunks out luckily didn't get to find out how it works on bone. So this wouldn't be the sword to kill you in battle it would be after.
something extremely important to note is that the chainsaw teeth on the chainsword in warhammer are 1) fang shaped and most importantly 2) Have Monomolecular Teeth (meaning the end of each of the teeth on the chainsword is one molecule wide and basically as sharp as physically possible)
The Warhammer 40,000 'chainsword' doesn't use modern chain saw teeth, it uses a much sharper tooth design that can be seen very clearly in "Space Marine 2".
@@ScreenTested but can you really compare the power of a Chainsword to our chainsaws? I don't have any expertise on the topic and agree that a chanswod is a bonkers idea.. but i would believe that guys running aroundf in fusion generatot powered suits of armour would wield a chainsword that is way too powerful to just get stuck get stuck on cloth and flesh..
How do you literally use Space Marine 2 trailer footage of the chainsword in action and NOT understand how this thing is supposed to function or be used.
Chain knives are a thing in both 40k and fallout, aka rippers, if you wanted a practical difference, chain swords have more aggressive teeth, usually only one side of the chainblade exposed, and a hilt that allows a sword style grip. But that's a lot of thinking about rule of cool weapons
The biggest issue here is that you're making the chainsword a sword when it not really... it's a chainsaw and is used like one, they don't cut and it's not supposed to they are designed to Rip and Tear the enemies of the Imperium... If a Space Marine needs to actually cut something they use their Combat Knife (a Monomolecular Edged Knife the size of a normal mans arm) as they always have one on them. Replacement Teeth Tracks are also common as yes they do need replacing, at least for Space Marines who are more likely to go against heavier armor... they are also stated to be very thirsty weapons thus drinking a ton of fuel (Promethium).
It is not used like a chainsaw, you'll never read books of Marines artfully bringing their chainswords into soft proximity so the teeth can catch their prey and rip it apart. They hack away at full force because whirr-whirr mean *slice* good.
A set of saw teeth from a chain saw are entirely the wrong type of teeth. The rakes do basically nothing for you in this case. Replace it with entirely hooked teeth and you might find the results are markedly different.
hey maybe the reason its called a chain sword and not chain saw is because you dont strike things with a chainsaw it would just break but with a chain sword you can really hard
@@ScreenTested if the chain is thick as depicted in Warhammer it wont break as easily but the main thing i think would be different is that on chain swords there are really sharp spikes that will get stuck in the target like the arlong sword but because the spikes are also moving they will immediately push deeper into the target and saw into him the difference i believe is you used a normal chainsaw very thin chain not that sharp and with not that hooked spikes its like using a kitchen knife as an example of why a dagger wont work but idk (it would be cool and get lot of views if you custom made an actually working chain sword but i know its a very hard project)
@@liorgoldshtein2373 I think spikes on a chainsword would take you for a quick ride. Assuming you're not a huge space marine with upgraded muscles and heavy armor of course.
40k chainswords certainly aren't chain saws and their purpose is to allow power armored humans to fight in close quarters against creatures larger, stronger, harder and thicker than humans. The chainsword teeth are much larger and pointed. This allows them to pierce thicker skins and chitin with a higher likelihood to lodged until it cuts through. Ideally allowing you to cleave through the monstrosities of 40k. I would suspect they have a very high torque motor in them, with how they're used and shown. 40k also has a sword which doesn't usually cleave these large creatures, but does electrify the target so it would be interesting to test if something like a Power Sword might out cleave the chainsword taking into account the thicker and stronger medium being hit but also a much stronger person swinging.
There are no "Racing Boats" either. Now if you call them "Racing Car Boats", it's fine. I have no problem with that. But there's no such thing as a "Racing Boat".
ugg the chain sword is a sword because the chain moves fast enough that it cuts like a sword, it also can do added damage from pressure and sawing that a chainsaw would do. you are dealing with a premise that is obviously ridiculous on its face but makes sense if you enjoy the lore.
Chain sword = chainsaw that can be used like a sword because there is a sword handle and there is no bulky engine hanging off of it. It is not really that deep...
Yup, pretty much. What tyranth made is a sword with chainsaw teeth. Now we can argue all day about what exactly defines the 'chain' part (just the chain itself or if it has to revolve via motor) but as you say, a chainsword is a chainsaw that's used as a sword.
@@desperado3236 Heck if we even want to get as pedantic it should even be called a chain club, cause at the end of the day it's merely that, a club with a chain on it's profile
Been mentioned in a couple other posts but yeah chain-sword is just one type of weapon built around a chain saw. It just differentiates between. Chain -axe Chain - glaive Chain - sword Chain - halberd Chain - scythes Etc. takes the shape of the second weapon with a chain blade located somewhere in its make up.
I'd be pretty happy if Screen Tested became something like an alloy of MythBusters, Shadiversity and Corridor Crew. Yeah that'd be completely addictive for me!
@@ScreenTested Love it! Wouldn't hurt to show some of your lightsaber builds. Dunno if it'd fit on this channel but enjoyed seeing the darksaber hilt repurposed.
The chain and engine of the 40k chainsword are so sharp, durable, and the engine is so powerful the chain might as well be a blade. The teeth are monomolecular, yet extremely durable. It’s like a sword, but it has the property of the chainsaw being able to continue chewing through things (with insane efficiency cuz future technology that doesn’t exist) as long as the user keeps applying the blade to the target like a chainsaw through wood, unlike a sword which would work entirely off of the pressure you apply. Aka it’s a chainsaw that is so sharp and powerful it can be used like a sword and literally just swung at things and it’ll slice them up like butter. The name isn’t exactly literal, it’s a chainsaw for sure. But it’s a chainsaw that’s so insanely powerful and sharp it might as well be a sword for the purposes of just swinging at people (and is in the shape of a sword). Or like a sword that just chews through people for you cuz the edge is actually a super chainsaw lol
A chainsaw is for consistent pressure so it's specialty teeth can remove hard materials a tiny bit at a time. Swinging it like a sword is destined to fail every time.
the chainsaw teeth on the chainsword are designed in a way that is fang-like in a downward motion. meaning the chainsword would naturally a have consistent pressure as long as a blow lands because the teeth would be pulling into the target.
@jupitergaming5146 Except it's rotating. And if an object that's rotating finds traction, it's inherently going to move away from that traction point. No shape can pull off what you're describing.
@@bolbyballinger that's not at all how that works. if the chain rotates downward and the teeth are fanged downward it would naturally dig into the target as it rotates
@@jupitergaming5146 Which would create friction that leads to the weapon trying to launch itself forward and off unless you hold it in place against an unmoving target. If anything you'd want the teeth facing the opposite direction. And to not be teeth but instead a smooth surface. And to not be spinning around with a bunch of weak points. I assure you, hand a space marine a proper sword of the same weight and they might actually have accomplished something.
@@bolbyballinger Wow it's almost like this thing is wielded by a 8 foot tall genetically enhanced demi-god that would be able to counter that kind of thing
I will say, the warhammer chain sword has big, chunky teeth vs modern saws. And they are used in that the person chops/cuts into an enemy, then turns it on, thus tearing, ripping and sawing through the enemy that is basically impaled on the spikes. And yes, it is a chainsaw sword - thus, chain sword
"Hi, we're going to test a 40K chainsword today, except it's not a sword with a motorized rotating toothed chain, it's a Hawaiian shark-tooth sword made out metal, and we're going to test it on targets secured so loosely that a jump rope could knock them over." EDIT: And 'Chainsword' is a portmanteau.
The important part is that the edge of the saw is monomolecullar, which allows it to go through almost anything. It is also self sharpening, so it does not go dull. And the teeth going so fast they almost create a blade, like Kars in Jojo part 2. This monomolecullar edge allows it to somewhat fight power weapons, which also work on molecular level.
Monomolecular blade stuff was always nonsense to me. If you could do that, then there would be no need for the whole complex chainsaw mechanism. One continuous blade aka traditional sword would be just as effective, but much easier to produce and maintain. You already have a blade as sharp as it can be, why do anything else?
@@Psycorde there is a need because you need to remove bits of it so the blade does not get stuck. There are blades called Charbanal blades, they have the same technology but they are not a chain weapon.
A chainsaw has hook teeth that sort of scoop out material as the chain slides past the item being cut. A chain sword (or axe) clearly has straight blade teeth for slicing, not scooping. Thus, any attempt to use a modern chainsaw to replicate the cutting power of a 40k chainsword will automatically fail. One could create a chainsword by using high-carbon steel blades set into a high-speed chain, using a magnetic drive to pull the chain, allowing the blades to slice across the target. It would be more effective if the teeth were slightly larger and set further apart (America's Test Kitchen proved that serrated blades with larger gaps beween the points, and rewer points, were more effective than blades with smaller gaps and more teeth, as there's less material in the knife to bind and create friction and tearing in the target, which happened to be bread and cooked meat).
Agreed the thing is that when using a chainsword you’re meant to use the side guards to block as shown in SM2 and DOW2 trailers were they use the edge of the sword to block and parry, other things is that people like to think of chainswords kinda like a lightsaber where you can swing it around like a stick, vs a chainsword which requires more blade and edge control and finesse in order to be used properly and whilst you can swing with a chainsword you don’t need to put in a lot of effort compared to a conventional sword since the blade is meant to do most of the work, again it’s primarily used or useful against lightly armored opponents from say your tusken raiders cloth to something a bit more tougher such as a termanid or arachnid from star ship troopers. Not only that but a chainsword vs a chainsaw is also about the differences in their teeth, as shown a chainswords teeth is pretty much a single edge vs a chainsaw tooth which is flatter and again is meant to be used to remove wood or other material via a grinding process vs a chainsword which has more in similar functions to say a bandsaw or a hacksaw, not to mention the sheer trauma of being hit by such a weapon 😂
I take it you've never used a chainsaw? Those chains are not as well secured as you think. Bash it against something and that chain WILL snap and go flying off.
The interesting thing about chainsaw is that the saw part is usually made for wood, even if you can cut through meat it is really not made for that and will not be efficient, but this is why there is multiple type of teeth for those chains, and possibly one for meat could be created, and the ones from Warhammer 40k Looks way more efficient than you average teeth on a chain, so yeah you kind of demonstrated nothing there sorry... And you will definitly need to make that chain move for a potential "good" result...
The chain sword blades are sharpened to a mono molecular level also. So it slices and cuts ( chainsaw) at the same time. It’s meant to be able to cut through armor unlike a regular sword which just bounces off instead of having to find the weak spots ( joints, armpits etc.)
A chainsword is like a chainsaw except that instead of sawing it provides draw to the cut; this is achieved by the chain providing a sliding edge, rather than the chain dragging teeth.
No spinning teeth - not a chainsword. The idea is that each strike is held to deal multiple small cuts as fast as the blade is spinning. I do appreciate the differences mentioned between chainsaws, but I categorize the difference as being one is optimized as a safe tool, the other as a deadly weapon. Essentially a chainsword has a more durable and robust build, the teeth are sharp whirring serrations - not scoops like a chainsaw's (the biggest difference is the tooth design), and the handle is more like a sword's. I would like to see your take on this motorized version as I think your weapon knowledge would yield a better result than other attempts to build real chainswords.
Firstly, some historical swords have saw edges. Saying a saw isn't a sword is basically arguing a serrated knife isn't a knife because it doesn't cut like a plain edge. So, according to your standard, a serrated knife doesn't cut things because it saws them. You're making a distinction without a difference "A serrated blade has a faster cut while a plain edge has a cleaner cut" - Wikipedia I'm sorry, but in existential war I don't care about how clean my strikes are. All I care about is taking out my enemy. And a plain edge blade is equivalent to a bar of unsharpened steel in the context of 40K. The proper tool for a job is dependent upon the material it is being used upon "They are rage, brutal, without mercy. But you. You will be worse. Rip and tear, until it is done" - Doom Secondly, the chainsword is literally a portmanteau of chainsaw-sword Thirdly, if you're having trouble understanding that a saw can be a sword, just think of it like this, a Messer is a knife because of its handle, a Falchion is a sword because of its handle. A chainsword is a sword because of its design and method of use Also, yes, a trimmer is a type of chainknife, just as an electric carving knife is a type of knife. Your incredulity is not a refutation. Make an argument for why an electric serrated knife used for carving turkey is a knife, but an electric serrated knife used to trim branches isn't a knife Oh, and you'd have a better effect in the cuts if you used a full chissel ripper chain with a standard teeth pattern. The chain you have is double skip and so leaves lots of areas without a cutting edge (however, a standard teeth pattern can increase the odds of clogging if you're cutting something too big... which you weren't). What you needed was the most aggressive chain (this is the technical term), which neither of your chains were
Really need to reproduce faithfully. What you have is an oddly shaped serrated sword. Still has some decent quality and value, but is far from a chainsword. All of the 'chain' weapons are going to be 'chainsaws' when oversimplifying, yes. But, as you pointed out how heavy it is, remember when swinging a typical weapon with that kind of weight, the weight is doing a very large portion of the damage. Chainsaws don't do that, the majority of the weight is either in the engine section, or a bit more balanced. A chainsword, or worse, any of the other chain weapons, has a great deal of weight in the 'blade' section (as the 'engine' is also in that blade section I think?), meaning when swung, there's no need to draw the weapon as much. The weight will help drive the chain-blades deeper while the chain is going at insane RPMs (9500+ during the cut, but revved to ~15K prior to the swing). It's far from elegant, and extremely brutal and brutish. I wouldn't really suggest making one, as just testing it could be extremely dangerous (things might fly off, and at very high speeds - accidentally hitting yourself, the camera person, etc). But, until that kind of weapon is made, can't really draw much of a conclusion.
The first issue is nomenclature - games workshop uses "sword" to just mean " any long metal object used to kill people with choppy motions". The second is saw teeth. Modern saws are made to cut wood. Fantasy saws are made of super sharp materials to allow them to feasibly cut armor.
1:02 It depends whether a thing can be named after the way it is “thought out to be used” (even if just barely similarly used that way). A laser sword also is not a sword but just a darn laser light with a handle; it does not cut, it burns. A magical sword of pure electricity in form of a sword also definitely is not a sword but just a darn electrical spikes that happen to be in form of a sword. If you pick up a chair and call it your “chair sword” also does not make it a sword. And, to maybe make some ppl angry here for no reason, a “foot ball” has to be in actual ball shape and be mainly used with foot ;-) … unless, as I said in the beginning.
It would be nice I'd someone made a proper chainsword by creating a proper blade chain. Hundreds of sword tips, no guide teeth, razor sharp and sturdy. It would cut well powered or fixed. Also gas powered high rpm would be much better than battery powered.
the reason the chainsaw didn't cut through the pork is because the teeth and mechanism are meant to be used on harder objects, not softer, that's why it dug into Tony pretty well, his "skin" is a decent bit harder than the skin on the pork, the big thing is, the object you saw into needs to be harder but still have give to it, like wood, or silicon in Tony's case, it needs to have some sort of thing it can bite into, now with saw teeth like on a band saw, and with sufficient force it will chew through wood, metal and flesh, but that's more because the teeth don't have big gaps in them like the chainsaw does, the teeth actually have the time to bite into the material.
It reminds me of the weapons used by the Aztecs where they would get bits of obsidian and place them into a sort of cricket bat 🏏 where the drawing motion is what does and causes the real damage.
Thanks for not cutting the part where you casually sawed the straps for Tony's armour. Fun but short-sighted hahaha..lol I got a good chuckle from that. I love how part way through you realise a way to make peace with the nonsense that is "Chainsword". "Oh. It's a chainsaw sword. That actually deals with my brain's OCD.," Priceless. I'm way more depressed people think they need to explain a portmanteau though...
Probably just a small detail, but the Chainsword's teeth are shaped more like shark teeth, which could have something to do with the cutting power. The size of the teeth could also be having an effect, but I also think the biggest factor is the speed at which the teeth are spun around the guide. I also think that it depends on the size of the weapon as well, since I think the Chainsword used by the Astartes is much bigger than what the Imperial Guard uses, with the Astarte's strength, reaction, and speed make the Chainsword work much better overall. That being said, I think a lot of the same issues would come into play with the Chainsword used by the Imperial Guard, but most of those issues would disappear when used by the Astartes.
Your enemy is like the actual workmen that have lost limbs or digits it does damage a lot but it depends angle and attack any chainsaw will eat your flesh hard there are safty percursions at workplaces for this reason
I think some adjustments in the tooth design on the chain might make a difference. Having a chain with teeth that are more akin to small knives or daggers as opposed to saw teeth might work better. Or perhaps a reciprocating motion for back and forth cutting action as opposed to a continuous forward slice, again with teeth designed to cut both directions. Or perhaps something more akin to an angle grinder perhaps.
I notice that in some (most?) images of a "chainsword", the teeth are far larger and shaped differently (kinda like small blades?), when compared to the teeth on a chainsaw chain. I'm wondering if a chain design like that might cause it to act like some kind of serrated blade, even if the chain was stationary. It would seem as if it'd definitely have more slicing potential than a chainsaw blade designed to saw wood.
The blade shape and design would be almost un-usable since it’s basically hooks it would get ripped out of your hands anytime it comes in contact with something or just as bad get stuck
@@ScreenTested valid theory, especially given how physics work on us... That much torque along with the shape creates a pulling motion; however, the teeth of the chainsword are narrow, like, one molecule narrow at their thinnest, and powered by a REALLY strong motor... If gripped by a person of Astartes strength or greater, or scaled down to guardsman size, COULD be feasible as a way to tear through thick-hided targets- Who knows, maybe the handle's grooved as well as ovular to make it a better grip... But all the same, it WOULD pull hard, probably something welcomed by the IoM though lmao Although if you're in the situation where you NEED to melee an enemy of the imperium... You're already in a VERY terrible situation, like knights pulling dirks on each other because they're grappling; the fact they're IN that situation in the first place is bad enough.
Also, the space marines are a lot stronger, so they can basically wield that thing with the velocity of a Zweihänder, meaning they automatically get better results.
I love when we get to the T.I.T.S. Love how the fonal product turned out! It looked very visceral and I wanna see that weapon in Bloodborne 2... WHEN it comes out... *cough*
the warhammer chainsword 1: has a motor to spin the chain, yours did not, 2: it has really sharp teeth, yours has basic teeth, 3: hitting a solid person/alien would be way different to hitting something that will fall over as you apply any pressure
the biggest problem with these chainsaw as effective swords debate is that rarely anybody factors in the fact that the chain design on woodcutting chainsaws are completely different from pop culture depictions, they are essentially completely different tools. Woodcutting chainsaws have rolled in teeth with a spacing tooth in front, designed to chip out small chunks of material. They act more like a planer or chisel. The teeth are also spaced out from each other, meaning most of the cutting Surface is the bare chain. The chainsword in 40k clear as day has big triangular teeth that don't carve out material as much as they slice and spread it apart, and also cover more space on the chain. Even Regular handsaws have a completely different design of teeth to chainsaws and even then handsaws aren't comparable to weaponized chainsaws in pop culture either. Arlongs sword would have been a much better comparison to the 40k chainsword than any regular chainsaw. Of course getting a Chain with sharp teeth like that is impossible without making a custom one, still those caveats need to be mentioned before judging the effectiveness of a weapon by using a completely different design.
This is one of those " Ahem, Ackchyually" types of intro. Its a sci-fi game. Obviously we can't replicate a true chainsword, but they are swords in that universe. They can slice cleanly due to the logic behind them. High RPM self-sharpening / regenerating teeth that can cut almost any material. Decent video regardless.
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It is basically a modernized Macuahuitl.
My thoughts exactly
But made from metal that undermines the need for a Macuahuitl-like object. Still; there is at least some precident.
a fallout version
YEH!
i would say a modern macahuitl with far less cutting power and more smashing power....so arguably...better just because more durable?....
The preconception at the start of the video is erroneous. What you’re doing is simply making a saw-sword, *not* a chain-sword, since by making the saw teeth static you are wholly eliminating the *chain* part. The Chainsword *is* a chainsaw that you wield like a *sword.* So what if the only functional difference is the way you hold it? What you are doing is reducing the efficinecy by removing the circulation of the chain, so that instead of slice+circulation you have only slice. Sure, that reduces the weight since you don’t have an engine… but it also removes pretty much *all* of the point. At that stage, you might as well put a hilt on a normal saw - *because that’s basically what you have.* Real stunning 1:1 recreation, there.
To cure your OCD, just add (saw) to every chain weapon in wh40k - chainswords, chainaxes, chain-halberds.
And it’s almost like they are not made to hack into small, light targets that move easily when struck, but bigger, bulkier things with enough mass and more of a fibrous structure… like Orks.
There was a dude who built a 'chain-halberd'-like project with a custom motor, which practically could have been a sword, but I dont think he wanted the risk of having his hands close to the blade when it was spinning. In reality, you have to make alterations to the blueprint in several ways - like having a chain that cannot jump off the blade, for one. And what I want to see is someone addressing the problem of rotational torque, that 'twisting' force a spinning or rotating object exerts when swung that moves it out of alignment unless you counter it with either muscle force, some kind of compensator, or… add a second chain next to the first that is in opposite orientation and spin direction.
And then ramp up the RPMs and get a chain with teeth designed for combat, not wood-cutting.
Bud, a 1:1 chainsword would be the size of his entire upper torso in length, have regenerating saw teeth, and be capable of cutting metals we don’t have on Earth. How precisely do you believe a man in his shed could possibly create adamantine?
@@spartanhawk7637 Nice strawman, as the materials of 40k have nothing to do with anything. Also you can absolutely make a reasonably sized chain-sword in a garage, you'd need a small motor, proper mounts and the chainsaw blade at approximately sword length, which are a thing. It'd be a bot pricy depending on what you have access to buy, but is completely doable. @spartanhawk7637 is right, this video is pointless because he makes the chain static. If he wasn't even going to try to do it properly he might as well have not done it at all.
He does actually come to that conclusion, that just adding saw to the chain weapons suddenly makes his OCD not care about it.
@@Ravensblood95 Diamond teeth
@@MrKOLCOO not sure you've ever seen how diamond blades work. They're very slow, that's to reduce the risk of chipping and breaking. Diamond is very hard but not durable at all. Anyone who has had an active or careless wife can attest to this
That's not a chainsword but ya made a propah choppa. Tha boss would be proud. Good on ya, mate!
Brother Tyranth!
The mediocre results come from lacking devotion to the machine spirit of your sword. This is not a technical problem. It is a problem of your soul.
Dedicate your thoughts and your soul to the Omnissiah and your weapon will function better. If you appease the machine spirit enough, you might not need gloves anymore for the weapon will accept you as its wielder.
May the Omnissiah bless your video for it is a vessel of holy information.
Mmm or OR stay with me here brother………
Slaanesh.
@@ScreenTested well then you gotta make the Horny Scythe, as it were, see how that performs against the pork
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Really the chain is incidental in this build. It's basically just a saw. Though chain saw teeth are different from other saw teeth, you're not really taking advantage of that if it's not moving quickly. Plus chain saw blades are designed to only sink so deep per cut, that's why it has guide teeth, so it's got a self-limited effectiveness at cutting. That's so that the chain doesn't bind, but again, with a fixed position, that doesn't really apply the same way.
P.S. My thought when hearing Chain Sword is of Ivy's Whip Sword (or Snake Sword) from Soulcalibur.
Came for a sci-fi weapon and ended up watching some sort of post apocalypse dyi abomination.
Arguably, "Chain Sword" is just short for "Chain Saw Sword".
That is literally exactly what the word means, no idea how it’s so complicated to this guy.
Not arguable, it's literally that
Got to admit, I did not expect the T.I.T.S on this to be as large - Always a pleasant surprise.
Me neither but it’s always nice when they are that big
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Imagine if tyranth used all of his weapons in a cursed pop culture battle royale. Who needs safety anyway?
What you've made there, mate, is an ork choppa.
Ghazkull mag uruk thraka would be proud.
guys i got too excited i made a mess....
Turns out, chainsaws saw things when they're turned on.
We start out by affixing the chain to the bar, with apoxy... *Blows into both hands before loudly clapping them together* **BOY**
Being an outspoken fan of the franchise, and mostly liking the boys sense of 'professionalism' whacking shit out in the woods. Im hoping this comes off nice, cause I'm really trying to channel the Dad energy with this one. A Chain sword is not what you think either lol. Its a hand held band saw. I said it before in one of the Shad videos lately. It is a hand held chain saw. Its got its own martial art in universe. The tiny promethium fueled engine in the hilt and pommel, don't just make the blade work like an electric carver, reciprocating in place. Its a Continuous Blade Band saw, Like a Chain links, with a Multispeed Multidirectional gearbox that's gunna be able to generate alot more speed and torque. The people that train with it understand how the inertia of the chain revving forward or back influences the cut. The example I pointed out was knowing when to run the chain forwards or backwards. People that like Warhammer. REALLLY like warhammer. Take the L, you did this one wrong.
"Im hoping this comes off nice" "take the L" 😅 not really a lot of consistency here bud
@@shocktnc And?
Isn't the point of the "Chainsword" is that when you have swung the weapon, and it's lodged in some killer alien bug, you can activate the chainsaw function and continue to saw the killer alien bug to pieces?
Pretty much, yeah
Heck yeah, you even see it in the trailer footage used.
A chainsaw chain doesn't really "cut" though. It chips the wood, very rapidly.
In fact, a traditional unpowered saw does more actual cutting due to the shape of the serrations.
So what would be needed is a chain festooned with multiple small cutting blades.
Chip isn’t even the right word it’s a planing action removing material in a strip depending on the depth guide in front of the tooth. But for sure it’s not cutting.
Yep which is why an actual "Chain Sword" would not be nearly as straightforward to build as everyone is claiming.
All in all, shouldn't have bothered since he's lacking resources to make anything of worth here, especially since it's dangerous
Instead of going forward with flawed argumentation to justify this build
Could've chosen a different weapon, like a massive hammer
@@shocktnc Exactly.
It's not a matter of basically just taking a regular chainsaw chain and putting it with a motor on a sword blade and expect a 1:1 functional equivalent.
The entire chain itself would need to be modified or even be built from scratch.
As someone who's been cut to the ribs by a chain saw it doesn't cut flesh it just rips and takes chunks out luckily didn't get to find out how it works on bone. So this wouldn't be the sword to kill you in battle it would be after.
something extremely important to note is that the chainsaw teeth on the chainsword in warhammer are
1) fang shaped
and most importantly
2) Have Monomolecular Teeth
(meaning the end of each of the teeth on the chainsword is one molecule wide and basically as sharp as physically possible)
The Warhammer 40,000 'chainsword' doesn't use modern chain saw teeth, it uses a much sharper tooth design that can be seen very clearly in "Space Marine 2".
Yes which makes it worse as it would be much much harder to use as they would get stuck in everything and rip off
@ScreenTested what if you turned the teeth around, so the movement of the teeth doesn't hook the flesh but instead wedges against it?
@@ScreenTested but can you really compare the power of a Chainsword to our chainsaws? I don't have any expertise on the topic and agree that a chanswod is a bonkers idea.. but i would believe that guys running aroundf in fusion generatot powered suits of armour would wield a chainsword that is way too powerful to just get stuck get stuck on cloth and flesh..
@@enochofmi, that would improve it probably, but not nearly enough to make it viable in reality.
@@DMcK-ro8qu, could you make it work with all their tech, yes. Would it be worth the hassle or look anything like it does, absolutely not.
This replica could have either looked like a 40k chainsword or mechanically functioned like one, and you chose to do neither.
I mean... What make a saw works is the motion (the faster the better). If you remove its motion it'll just become useless, as expected.
i think chains swords are basically motorized maquahuitl.
How many swords could a chainsaw saw if a chainsword could chain saws
How do you literally use Space Marine 2 trailer footage of the chainsword in action and NOT understand how this thing is supposed to function or be used.
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You might as well call it a chain cricket bat.
Chain knives are a thing in both 40k and fallout, aka rippers, if you wanted a practical difference, chain swords have more aggressive teeth, usually only one side of the chainblade exposed, and a hilt that allows a sword style grip. But that's a lot of thinking about rule of cool weapons
A chain Sawrd perhaps? Pretty good right guys? r-right? ......
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You basically made a pacific islanders weapon
The biggest issue here is that you're making the chainsword a sword when it not really... it's a chainsaw and is used like one, they don't cut and it's not supposed to they are designed to Rip and Tear the enemies of the Imperium... If a Space Marine needs to actually cut something they use their Combat Knife (a Monomolecular Edged Knife the size of a normal mans arm) as they always have one on them.
Replacement Teeth Tracks are also common as yes they do need replacing, at least for Space Marines who are more likely to go against heavier armor... they are also stated to be very thirsty weapons thus drinking a ton of fuel (Promethium).
It is not used like a chainsaw, you'll never read books of Marines artfully bringing their chainswords into soft proximity so the teeth can catch their prey and rip it apart. They hack away at full force because whirr-whirr mean *slice* good.
What he made is like wrapping a chain around semi-automatic rifle's barrel and calling it a chaingun
now that is not a chainsword, thats a PROPPA CHOPPA, WAAAAAAAAAGGGGH
A set of saw teeth from a chain saw are entirely the wrong type of teeth. The rakes do basically nothing for you in this case. Replace it with entirely hooked teeth and you might find the results are markedly different.
hey maybe the reason its called a chain sword and not chain saw is because you dont strike things with a chainsaw it would just break but with a chain sword you can really hard
Same thing applies to the chain sword it would just bounce and break on things
@@ScreenTested if the chain is thick as depicted in Warhammer it wont break as easily but the main thing i think would be different is that on chain swords there are really sharp spikes that will get stuck in the target like the arlong sword but because the spikes are also moving they will immediately push deeper into the target and saw into him the difference i believe is you used a normal chainsaw very thin chain not that sharp and with not that hooked spikes its like using a kitchen knife as an example of why a dagger wont work but idk (it would be cool and get lot of views if you custom made an actually working chain sword but i know its a very hard project)
Seems like a great metal club
@@liorgoldshtein2373 I think spikes on a chainsword would take you for a quick ride. Assuming you're not a huge space marine with upgraded muscles and heavy armor of course.
@@jacollins2010 yes thats exactly what i had in mind
40k chainswords certainly aren't chain saws and their purpose is to allow power armored humans to fight in close quarters against creatures larger, stronger, harder and thicker than humans.
The chainsword teeth are much larger and pointed. This allows them to pierce thicker skins and chitin with a higher likelihood to lodged until it cuts through. Ideally allowing you to cleave through the monstrosities of 40k. I would suspect they have a very high torque motor in them, with how they're used and shown.
40k also has a sword which doesn't usually cleave these large creatures, but does electrify the target so it would be interesting to test if something like a Power Sword might out cleave the chainsword taking into account the thicker and stronger medium being hit but also a much stronger person swinging.
There are no "Racing Boats" either. Now if you call them "Racing Car Boats", it's fine. I have no problem with that. But there's no such thing as a "Racing Boat".
how do you not understand chainsword??
ugg the chain sword is a sword because the chain moves fast enough that it cuts like a sword, it also can do added damage from pressure and sawing that a chainsaw would do. you are dealing with a premise that is obviously ridiculous on its face but makes sense if you enjoy the lore.
Chain sword = chainsaw that can be used like a sword because there is a sword handle and there is no bulky engine hanging off of it. It is not really that deep...
Yup, pretty much. What tyranth made is a sword with chainsaw teeth.
Now we can argue all day about what exactly defines the 'chain' part (just the chain itself or if it has to revolve via motor) but as you say, a chainsword is a chainsaw that's used as a sword.
@@desperado3236 Heck if we even want to get as pedantic it should even be called a chain club, cause at the end of the day it's merely that, a club with a chain on it's profile
"Chain" in "Chainsword" is shortened "Chainsaw" to make a neater combined word. It's painfully obvious
My neighbor lent me a pruning chainsaw, and my first comment was "It's a chain-dagger!"
Been mentioned in a couple other posts but yeah chain-sword is just one type of weapon built around a chain saw.
It just differentiates between.
Chain -axe
Chain - glaive
Chain - sword
Chain - halberd
Chain - scythes
Etc.
takes the shape of the second weapon with a chain blade located somewhere in its make up.
I'd be pretty happy if Screen Tested became something like an alloy of MythBusters, Shadiversity and Corridor Crew. Yeah that'd be completely addictive for me!
That’s the plan
@@ScreenTested Love it! Wouldn't hurt to show some of your lightsaber builds. Dunno if it'd fit on this channel but enjoyed seeing the darksaber hilt repurposed.
Without the functionality of a chainsaw, haven't you technically just made a "sawd"?
The chain and engine of the 40k chainsword are so sharp, durable, and the engine is so powerful the chain might as well be a blade. The teeth are monomolecular, yet extremely durable. It’s like a sword, but it has the property of the chainsaw being able to continue chewing through things (with insane efficiency cuz future technology that doesn’t exist) as long as the user keeps applying the blade to the target like a chainsaw through wood, unlike a sword which would work entirely off of the pressure you apply. Aka it’s a chainsaw that is so sharp and powerful it can be used like a sword and literally just swung at things and it’ll slice them up like butter. The name isn’t exactly literal, it’s a chainsaw for sure. But it’s a chainsaw that’s so insanely powerful and sharp it might as well be a sword for the purposes of just swinging at people (and is in the shape of a sword). Or like a sword that just chews through people for you cuz the edge is actually a super chainsaw lol
A chainsaw is for consistent pressure so it's specialty teeth can remove hard materials a tiny bit at a time. Swinging it like a sword is destined to fail every time.
the chainsaw teeth on the chainsword are designed in a way that is fang-like in a downward motion. meaning the chainsword would naturally a have consistent pressure as long as a blow lands because the teeth would be pulling into the target.
@jupitergaming5146
Except it's rotating.
And if an object that's rotating finds traction, it's inherently going to move away from that traction point.
No shape can pull off what you're describing.
@@bolbyballinger that's not at all how that works. if the chain rotates downward and the teeth are fanged downward it would naturally dig into the target as it rotates
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Which would create friction that leads to the weapon trying to launch itself forward and off unless you hold it in place against an unmoving target.
If anything you'd want the teeth facing the opposite direction.
And to not be teeth but instead a smooth surface.
And to not be spinning around with a bunch of weak points.
I assure you, hand a space marine a proper sword of the same weight and they might actually have accomplished something.
@@bolbyballinger Wow it's almost like this thing is wielded by a 8 foot tall genetically enhanced demi-god that would be able to counter that kind of thing
In french, it is "épée tronçonneuse" which is literally chainsaw sword
I will say, the warhammer chain sword has big, chunky teeth vs modern saws. And they are used in that the person chops/cuts into an enemy, then turns it on, thus tearing, ripping and sawing through the enemy that is basically impaled on the spikes. And yes, it is a chainsaw sword - thus, chain sword
"Hi, we're going to test a 40K chainsword today, except it's not a sword with a motorized rotating toothed chain, it's a Hawaiian shark-tooth sword made out metal, and we're going to test it on targets secured so loosely that a jump rope could knock them over."
EDIT: And 'Chainsword' is a portmanteau.
He did you guys a favor.
The design of those things is utter garbage.
You clearly did not read the title my dude, he could not have made it more obvious.
The important part is that the edge of the saw is monomolecullar, which allows it to go through almost anything. It is also self sharpening, so it does not go dull. And the teeth going so fast they almost create a blade, like Kars in Jojo part 2. This monomolecullar edge allows it to somewhat fight power weapons, which also work on molecular level.
I think this comment is complete hogwash but the video should still be redone because the saw teeth used look nothing like the chainsword's.
@@matthewmatthew981 how is it bad?
Monomolecular blade stuff was always nonsense to me. If you could do that, then there would be no need for the whole complex chainsaw mechanism.
One continuous blade aka traditional sword would be just as effective, but much easier to produce and maintain.
You already have a blade as sharp as it can be, why do anything else?
@@Psycorde there is a need because you need to remove bits of it so the blade does not get stuck. There are blades called Charbanal blades, they have the same technology but they are not a chain weapon.
A chainsaw has hook teeth that sort of scoop out material as the chain slides past the item being cut. A chain sword (or axe) clearly has straight blade teeth for slicing, not scooping. Thus, any attempt to use a modern chainsaw to replicate the cutting power of a 40k chainsword will automatically fail.
One could create a chainsword by using high-carbon steel blades set into a high-speed chain, using a magnetic drive to pull the chain, allowing the blades to slice across the target. It would be more effective if the teeth were slightly larger and set further apart (America's Test Kitchen proved that serrated blades with larger gaps beween the points, and rewer points, were more effective than blades with smaller gaps and more teeth, as there's less material in the knife to bind and create friction and tearing in the target, which happened to be bread and cooked meat).
Agreed the thing is that when using a chainsword you’re meant to use the side guards to block as shown in SM2 and DOW2 trailers were they use the edge of the sword to block and parry, other things is that people like to think of chainswords kinda like a lightsaber where you can swing it around like a stick, vs a chainsword which requires more blade and edge control and finesse in order to be used properly and whilst you can swing with a chainsword you don’t need to put in a lot of effort compared to a conventional sword since the blade is meant to do most of the work, again it’s primarily used or useful against lightly armored opponents from say your tusken raiders cloth to something a bit more tougher such as a termanid or arachnid from star ship troopers. Not only that but a chainsword vs a chainsaw is also about the differences in their teeth, as shown a chainswords teeth is pretty much a single edge vs a chainsaw tooth which is flatter and again is meant to be used to remove wood or other material via a grinding process vs a chainsword which has more in similar functions to say a bandsaw or a hacksaw, not to mention the sheer trauma of being hit by such a weapon 😂
You should have modified a normal chainsaw to be wielded like a sword
I take it you've never used a chainsaw?
Those chains are not as well secured as you think.
Bash it against something and that chain WILL snap and go flying off.
@@bolbyballinger the point of making a fantasy blade is to see if it’s possible
Trazyn demands it for his collection!
The interesting thing about chainsaw is that the saw part is usually made for wood, even if you can cut through meat it is really not made for that and will not be efficient, but this is why there is multiple type of teeth for those chains, and possibly one for meat could be created, and the ones from Warhammer 40k Looks way more efficient than you average teeth on a chain, so yeah you kind of demonstrated nothing there sorry... And you will definitly need to make that chain move for a potential "good" result...
I like it. Not just your Chainsaw-Sword build, but the fact you let your intrusive thoughts win quite a bit in this vid 💪🏻🤣
You should absolutely make a rig to test a full size chain saw
Sorry Tyranth. That's a mace, a sword is a long sharp blade, that is a heavy club with sharp teeth and that means mace.
The chain sword blades are sharpened to a mono molecular level also. So it slices and cuts ( chainsaw) at the same time. It’s meant to be able to cut through armor unlike a regular sword which just bounces off instead of having to find the weak spots ( joints, armpits etc.)
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I grew up in a rural N.E. WA State (U.S.) timber comunity, so anything combining a sword with a chain saw, absolutly tickles my fancy.
A chainsword is like a chainsaw except that instead of sawing it provides draw to the cut; this is achieved by the chain providing a sliding edge, rather than the chain dragging teeth.
In the attempt at making a chain sword he accidentally made a post apocalyptic macuahuital.
No spinning teeth - not a chainsword. The idea is that each strike is held to deal multiple small cuts as fast as the blade is spinning. I do appreciate the differences mentioned between chainsaws, but I categorize the difference as being one is optimized as a safe tool, the other as a deadly weapon. Essentially a chainsword has a more durable and robust build, the teeth are sharp whirring serrations - not scoops like a chainsaw's (the biggest difference is the tooth design), and the handle is more like a sword's. I would like to see your take on this motorized version as I think your weapon knowledge would yield a better result than other attempts to build real chainswords.
Firstly, some historical swords have saw edges. Saying a saw isn't a sword is basically arguing a serrated knife isn't a knife because it doesn't cut like a plain edge. So, according to your standard, a serrated knife doesn't cut things because it saws them. You're making a distinction without a difference
"A serrated blade has a faster cut while a plain edge has a cleaner cut" - Wikipedia
I'm sorry, but in existential war I don't care about how clean my strikes are. All I care about is taking out my enemy. And a plain edge blade is equivalent to a bar of unsharpened steel in the context of 40K. The proper tool for a job is dependent upon the material it is being used upon
"They are rage, brutal, without mercy. But you. You will be worse. Rip and tear, until it is done" - Doom
Secondly, the chainsword is literally a portmanteau of chainsaw-sword
Thirdly, if you're having trouble understanding that a saw can be a sword, just think of it like this, a Messer is a knife because of its handle, a Falchion is a sword because of its handle.
A chainsword is a sword because of its design and method of use
Also, yes, a trimmer is a type of chainknife, just as an electric carving knife is a type of knife. Your incredulity is not a refutation. Make an argument for why an electric serrated knife used for carving turkey is a knife, but an electric serrated knife used to trim branches isn't a knife
Oh, and you'd have a better effect in the cuts if you used a full chissel ripper chain with a standard teeth pattern. The chain you have is double skip and so leaves lots of areas without a cutting edge (however, a standard teeth pattern can increase the odds of clogging if you're cutting something too big... which you weren't). What you needed was the most aggressive chain (this is the technical term), which neither of your chains were
A chainsaw's teeth work perpendicular to how a sword would be swung.
You should test out vibration swords! seems to be the new trope in asian fantasy as the ultimate cutter
"This time we're making a vibroblade, I'm going to reuse sword build from the other month and a vibrator..." 💀
Really need to reproduce faithfully. What you have is an oddly shaped serrated sword. Still has some decent quality and value, but is far from a chainsword. All of the 'chain' weapons are going to be 'chainsaws' when oversimplifying, yes. But, as you pointed out how heavy it is, remember when swinging a typical weapon with that kind of weight, the weight is doing a very large portion of the damage. Chainsaws don't do that, the majority of the weight is either in the engine section, or a bit more balanced.
A chainsword, or worse, any of the other chain weapons, has a great deal of weight in the 'blade' section (as the 'engine' is also in that blade section I think?), meaning when swung, there's no need to draw the weapon as much. The weight will help drive the chain-blades deeper while the chain is going at insane RPMs (9500+ during the cut, but revved to ~15K prior to the swing). It's far from elegant, and extremely brutal and brutish. I wouldn't really suggest making one, as just testing it could be extremely dangerous (things might fly off, and at very high speeds - accidentally hitting yourself, the camera person, etc).
But, until that kind of weapon is made, can't really draw much of a conclusion.
The first issue is nomenclature - games workshop uses "sword" to just mean " any long metal object used to kill people with choppy motions".
The second is saw teeth. Modern saws are made to cut wood. Fantasy saws are made of super sharp materials to allow them to feasibly cut armor.
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It depends whether a thing can be named after the way it is “thought out to be used” (even if just barely similarly used that way). A laser sword also is not a sword but just a darn laser light with a handle; it does not cut, it burns. A magical sword of pure electricity in form of a sword also definitely is not a sword but just a darn electrical spikes that happen to be in form of a sword. If you pick up a chair and call it your “chair sword” also does not make it a sword.
And, to maybe make some ppl angry here for no reason, a “foot ball” has to be in actual ball shape and be mainly used with foot ;-)
… unless, as I said in the beginning.
It would be nice I'd someone made a proper chainsword by creating a proper blade chain. Hundreds of sword tips, no guide teeth, razor sharp and sturdy. It would cut well powered or fixed. Also gas powered high rpm would be much better than battery powered.
the reason the chainsaw didn't cut through the pork is because the teeth and mechanism are meant to be used on harder objects, not softer, that's why it dug into Tony pretty well, his "skin" is a decent bit harder than the skin on the pork, the big thing is, the object you saw into needs to be harder but still have give to it, like wood, or silicon in Tony's case, it needs to have some sort of thing it can bite into, now with saw teeth like on a band saw, and with sufficient force it will chew through wood, metal and flesh, but that's more because the teeth don't have big gaps in them like the chainsaw does, the teeth actually have the time to bite into the material.
It reminds me of the weapons used by the Aztecs where they would get bits of obsidian and place them into a sort of cricket bat 🏏 where the drawing motion is what does and causes the real damage.
It kinda turns it into a macuahuitl, which I adore and always want to see more of
a far inferior version of a macuahuitl though
GOOD JOB tyranth.... a club with sawing potential... that's all it is... excellent diagnosis
Thanks for not cutting the part where you casually sawed the straps for Tony's armour. Fun but short-sighted hahaha..lol I got a good chuckle from that.
I love how part way through you realise a way to make peace with the nonsense that is "Chainsword". "Oh. It's a chainsaw sword. That actually deals with my brain's OCD.," Priceless.
I'm way more depressed people think they need to explain a portmanteau though...
Destroying the Dark Saber handle? It got what it deserved.
Just call it a Chain Sawrd
Nomenclature and 40K nerdiness aside. What we have here is more akin to a macuahuital, made of metal
In the future, there is only war.....and noodle cutting.
Noodle cutting? “ sounds like heresy to me “
There's another concept of saw-sword: Several disk saws lined up along a shaft.
Image search for "saw shark zord megaforce" for an example.
Now lets see if Tyranth can make a 40K Powersword
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Probably just a small detail, but the Chainsword's teeth are shaped more like shark teeth, which could have something to do with the cutting power. The size of the teeth could also be having an effect, but I also think the biggest factor is the speed at which the teeth are spun around the guide.
I also think that it depends on the size of the weapon as well, since I think the Chainsword used by the Astartes is much bigger than what the Imperial Guard uses, with the Astarte's strength, reaction, and speed make the Chainsword work much better overall.
That being said, I think a lot of the same issues would come into play with the Chainsword used by the Imperial Guard, but most of those issues would disappear when used by the Astartes.
Monster hunter also has a number of swords with chains on them
People don’t bounce
Ah,Tyrant you forget that the chain sword suppost to be spinning while you swing it.
"That's the logic we're playing by with this stupid shit." I laughed so hard.
Your enemy is like the actual workmen that have lost limbs or digits it does damage a lot but it depends angle and attack any chainsaw will eat your flesh hard there are safty percursions at workplaces for this reason
I think some adjustments in the tooth design on the chain might make a difference. Having a chain with teeth that are more akin to small knives or daggers as opposed to saw teeth might work better.
Or perhaps a reciprocating motion for back and forth cutting action as opposed to a continuous forward slice, again with teeth designed to cut both directions.
Or perhaps something more akin to an angle grinder perhaps.
I notice that in some (most?) images of a "chainsword", the teeth are far larger and shaped differently (kinda like small blades?), when compared to the teeth on a chainsaw chain. I'm wondering if a chain design like that might cause it to act like some kind of serrated blade, even if the chain was stationary.
It would seem as if it'd definitely have more slicing potential than a chainsaw blade designed to saw wood.
The blade shape and design would be almost un-usable since it’s basically hooks it would get ripped out of your hands anytime it comes in contact with something or just as bad get stuck
@@ScreenTested valid theory, especially given how physics work on us... That much torque along with the shape creates a pulling motion; however, the teeth of the chainsword are narrow, like, one molecule narrow at their thinnest, and powered by a REALLY strong motor... If gripped by a person of Astartes strength or greater, or scaled down to guardsman size, COULD be feasible as a way to tear through thick-hided targets- Who knows, maybe the handle's grooved as well as ovular to make it a better grip... But all the same, it WOULD pull hard, probably something welcomed by the IoM though lmao
Although if you're in the situation where you NEED to melee an enemy of the imperium... You're already in a VERY terrible situation, like knights pulling dirks on each other because they're grappling; the fact they're IN that situation in the first place is bad enough.
Also, the space marines are a lot stronger, so they can basically wield that thing with the velocity of a Zweihänder, meaning they automatically get better results.
I love when we get to the T.I.T.S. Love how the fonal product turned out! It looked very visceral and I wanna see that weapon in Bloodborne 2... WHEN it comes out... *cough*
Chain saw blade wrapped around a baseball bat in a spiral from the top screw trying to use it as a sword use it as a toothy club
Seems you need to read more 40k books :).
There are two variants of chainswords. The kind we see most often is the Big Boy© variant, which indeed is just a chainsaw.
The other variant is the one used by human officers and specialists. They are slim, light weight, and sword sized. The teeth are small and durable, and do not revolve unless you choose to.
(It's been a while so I might get some detail wrong.) Chainsword fencing is the same as with normal swords, with the added tactics that come with being able to manipulate the chain.
There's either a button or some other control which allows you to change direction and speed of the chain. Typically you wouldn't keep it running in a duel because it could easily be used against you.
The intricacies come in to play in a bind, as you can imagine. Turning on the chain at the right moment can disarm (or dis-arm) your opponent. And changing directions has it's advantages too.
So in closing, it's all stupid shit :)
chain swords ? Defo stupid shit but hey it's fun
the warhammer chainsword 1: has a motor to spin the chain, yours did not, 2: it has really sharp teeth, yours has basic teeth, 3: hitting a solid person/alien would be way different to hitting something that will fall over as you apply any pressure
the biggest problem with these chainsaw as effective swords debate is that rarely anybody factors in the fact that the chain design on woodcutting chainsaws are completely different from pop culture depictions, they are essentially completely different tools.
Woodcutting chainsaws have rolled in teeth with a spacing tooth in front, designed to chip out small chunks of material. They act more like a planer or chisel. The teeth are also spaced out from each other, meaning most of the cutting Surface is the bare chain.
The chainsword in 40k clear as day has big triangular teeth that don't carve out material as much as they slice and spread it apart, and also cover more space on the chain.
Even Regular handsaws have a completely different design of teeth to chainsaws and even then handsaws aren't comparable to weaponized chainsaws in pop culture either. Arlongs sword would have been a much better comparison to the 40k chainsword than any regular chainsaw.
Of course getting a Chain with sharp teeth like that is impossible without making a custom one, still those caveats need to be mentioned before judging the effectiveness of a weapon by using a completely different design.
This is one of those " Ahem, Ackchyually" types of intro. Its a sci-fi game. Obviously we can't replicate a true chainsword, but they are swords in that universe. They can slice cleanly due to the logic behind them. High RPM self-sharpening / regenerating teeth that can cut almost any material. Decent video regardless.
Ive always had the head cannon that the 40k ones are just stupid high torque and pull into the enemy.
There he is, thats the Tyrant I was looking for. Perfect intro.
I appreciated the reference to Tiger on the Beat at 1:15