@@dashrendar5320 Jepp, when seeing this in the thumbnails at Tod's, it's almost an auto click thing to see this as well.... especially with the comments highlighting the difference in draw style.
o7 The community had some complaints and you delivered perfection. Sadly, the armor did armor things to the arrows. Maybe there will be a part two before you sent the bow back. Thanks for the informative entertaining.
Thank you so much. I really hoped to make it the best possible and I had a lot of help from outside sources aiding me in that so I’m really grateful for it.
This is what I like to see, the kindness of people like APA Archery, Bishop & Chad Sommerville who reached out to help a fellow nerd have an early Christmas. A huge THANK YOU to them for allowing Dash to 'Nerd Hard 2: Nerd Harder' and make excellent videos for us to watch! The humour on top is a bonus. 😁😀 Pour one out for Ghost... 🍹
Haha we all felt the pain of that one… yes I consider myself truly lucky and blessed to have been given the equipment and tools to make such a fun video. It’s truly just an honor and I am happy you enjoyed the humor as well.
100# compound with a mediterranean finger draw? Respect! Much more a honest comparison here, although the accuracy clearly suffered as you obviously weren’t familiar with it and used arrows of different weight and balance. Not really the type of shooting that monster compound was designed for, but it still delivered nicely. As a compound shooter (Darton Consequence #70 with a thumb release aid) it’s enjoyable to watch archery nerds of really different styles have fun… whether it be ridiculously heavy longbows at medieval armour, shooting upside down on a poledancing pole with an asiatic bow, or even less weird stuff like olympic or barebows.
Thanks for that man, yeah, it felt super weird trying to aim with sights. And they arrow weight varied a lot as well. But it was still super fun to do and try and that was a great setup! I was lucky to be able to try it out
This is exactly what I was waiting for! I think it shows that despite less weight when compared with the war bows, that extra fps and instant energy delivery from the cams makes a difference. Great experiment!
Edited... Subtitles got me 😂 May the 1800 grain Bishop Arrow rest in peace... would love to see that thing hit a fresh plate squarely. Outstanding video, Sir! Original comment below. Outstanding video! You received suggestions, and took them in stride. I'd still love to see an 800-1000 grain arrow out of the compound, but that was a MAJOR upgrade. Well done, Sir!
Thank you so much, my friend. I was happy to be able to improve and was very fortunate to be blessed with some high quality equipment, the arrow was over 1000 grains. The broadhead was 500 grains and that one beefy arrow was about 1200
That is a sweet bow man and glad to see you found an arrow that can actually give a good showing. Awesome content man keep nerding out and being awesome
I find it funny how you can make more realistic conversations between his characters than modern writers and it's also funny. It was interesting seeing that modern bow worked better against a modern shield, it was unexpected. Shame that we didn't get to see it go against a fullhelm, but it is what it is. Thanks for the video and have a nice day.
Thanks so much, I am glad you find it funny and enjoy it. in good news though I spoke to APA archery and they loves the video also so they’re gonna try and send me a few more arrows round two
I am so stoked you reached out to Bishop Archery!!!! He does awesome work and is an all around great guy! I would be willing to bet he’d send you a new build. He stands behind his work.
Yeah that arrow was an absolute menace!!! I felt cheated because it only failed because it got caught and twisted. I think it would have just kept on trucking if not for that
@@dashrendar5320I bet he’d be willing to send you another, he warranties all the work he’s ever given me, and pretty much has dared me to break it. Lol Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for putting in the testing! Cheers.
Only need to quadruple the current fasted (string) bow speeds, can't be that hard to make such a leap, it's not like man has been developing bows for millennia
now this was a fair test, well done Dash! now you get what we mean that time, we use to test your arrows on 2- 2.5mm steel plate and a well setted 450gn arrown with a 70lb bow pass through the steel like butter, so we do know what those bows are capable of
Thank you, my friend. I was very fortunate to have been able to get some quality equipment to really ramp up the testing and make it as good as I possibly could. I am very gracious that I got the opportunity to experiment with this stuff.
Great video Dash! How did it feel to actually hold a full draw! :D. I love the community in this channel and how so many people are reaching out to provide help with new arrows and the compound. Keep up the wonderful work my friend!
Man once it broke it was like holding literally nothing 😂😂 it was crazy. Also yes it’s been so amazing and fun with all the people who enjoy the same stuff. An absolute blast with quality people
I love you got something out of the rumble that the latter video related to this topic had and what I got from this video is that there's a clear difference in what is put on the spotlight between medieval weapons and the modern ones, medieval and the modern arrows just showed that to penetrate steel there's a focus on momentum and inertia (thus,they could pass through Kevlar just like butter)but modern weapons and warfare from early 20th century onwards focuses more into hiw much kinetic energy the bullets can deliver, it's not a matter of what's better or worse but about the needs we have in a given historical moment...great job!!!
Well said, everything really is Tailored for its specific moment in history. It’s fun to mash them all together and see how they perform from varying eras
Great honest review mate it showed both strength and the weakness of both bows and that they both have a place, the compound may have the edge on some penetration and speed tests but the long bow arrows are far more robust and can definitely take more of a pounding.
Thanks man! So glad you enjoyed it. Yeah I was able to really ramp it up thanks to the much better compound bow and better arrow but they really are specific tools for specific tasks. Each excels in their own way
so many characters in one video gives me the feeling that the dashverse multiverse has been confirmed, great video man 👍, and that arrow piercing that tactical shield for a police officer would be impressive and at the same time terrifying 😅💀🏹🗿
@@dashrendar5320I do! I really like how much effort you put into your work but still prioritizing your kids. Not many good role model dad's for other dad's to watch.
Thanks, my friend. I appreciate that, I was super fortunate to be able to try out some really cool high-tech stuff and man it was a blast. it was a privilege to try it out and see how it worked
Congrats on the modern war bow! That thing is sweet. I love my compound for hunting and extream accuracy but my recurve war bow is just something extra special to shoot for me
@ even so it’s still an awesome bow for them to lease to you. I still want to try to make some carbon arrows for my war bow just because I think it would be nice for shooting at local ranges. As always you have amazing videos
Please don't be disappointed this was freaking awesome. I'd love to be able to help you out, I'm surprised you don't have a bunch of sponsors. You make me laugh, I'm watching and thinking it would be funny seeing you film this, you'd look like you've lost the plot with all the different personalities 😂
Haha I can only imagine how it looks from the outside. And thanks so much for that my friend, so glad you enjoy the fun and humor. I was hoping to get more out of the tests but it was still a blast
@dashrendar5320 youre Welcome! Im also into stronger bows, maybe you can geht your hands on a 110 lbs super shrew, these are very good and fast bows, would be a great video in youre channel🤩 greetings from Bavaria, Germany
Oh wow, that would be so cool. I just looked those up, definitely on the pricer range…I will have to save for a while to get that one 💪🏹 but maybe one day
Nice! Finger drawing on a 100lbs compound. Just flexing on every hunter out there 😂 That's a much better showing for the compound. Loved how it tore through that wood shield. Keep up the amazing work, hoss 🏹🤘🏿🤙🏿
Haha well it wasn’t really a flex per se. I have just never used that device thing so it would feel weird I think but yeah, it was super satisfying to see it just punching into stuff!! 💪🏹
Nice work! As a compound archer, I am satisfied with your set up. You did everything right. Only small thing that might improve what your doing is to have your bow tuned so there is the least deviation in your arrow during flight as possible. The straighter that arrow is when it flies, the less energy it wastes and the straighter it is on impact, the better penetration it will have. But I wouldn't expect to see much difference.
Thank you for that my friend. Yeah it was really great. I had a lot of compound archers help me out and give me some guidance and of course I got a great set up from APA archery and Bishop for the arrows so I consider myself very lucky to be able to try it
Another great video! That compound bow is a beast! Would be curious to see if the arrow shafts get better penetration with graphite powder coating applied to reduce friction. Shouldn't be expensive to do, just a bit of time to apply prior to testing. Thought of this due to seeing it mentioned in another video as a cheap means to deal with stuck wooden dresser drawers
Thanks man! Glad you enjoyed it, yeah it’s a Brute for sure massive power. That would be interesting to see for sure. I am still waiting. The company said that they would try to send me some more of the really big arrows so I just have to wait until they can get access to Mor.
500 grains at 365 fps is 148 ft-lbs (201 J). That's a higher figure than any yew warbow. I suspect this bow could do better against hardened steel plate with heads optimized for that. I'm impressed you managed to penetrate the brigandine plate so deeply, given how broad the arrowhead is. Around a decade ago, Kevin Strother claimed to hunt with compound bows that deliver over 165 ft-lbs with very light arrows.
Yeah, it’s definitely a beast. As far as I know it’s the most powerful bow on the market and I agree if they made modern day optimized bodkin points I think it would do better.
@@dashrendar5320 I bet it is. Strother is (or at least was) in the business of making bows & had custom extra-heavy limbs. So the bows he shot probably weren't regularly available back then (or now).
Great test brother! Looks like 5 armored deer are really upset. More may come out of the woods in the near future 😅 Nice jokes as well, especially the Star Wars one floored me.
Thanks man. It was super cool to try. I was so privileged to have that bow and the best news is APA archery actually reached out to me and said they loved it too and they’re gonna try and send me a couple more arrows! Also glad you enjoyed. I had a lot of fun writing them.
That is a heck of a well built bow and arrow from Bishop. The other arrows supplied were also impressive. This in line with what I expect of a compund this ridiculous. A little surprised it did not do better on brigand, but armour was made to stop arrows.
Yeah, it’s an absolute menace of a combination. I couldn’t believe how big the arrow was when I got it haha. It is true though..armor works at the end of the day haha, but still it was amazing to try and see
A modern high draw compound bow and with arrow to match, get to strut their stuff and show that even after all this time, archery still has a few new tricks up it's sleeves.
Told ya so! Modern compounds will shoot the same weight arrows faster and farther that hit harder when they get there than the old war bows and do it at lower draw weights. How they can take elephant, rhino, and cape buffalo. Should have kept going with the old wood arrows w bodkins/plate cutters from the modern bow; that's what we do.
Haha well to be fair, I never doubted it…I just did not have the right equipment. However, on the side spoke to APA archery after the video and they loved it so they’re gonna try and send me a couple more of the arrows from Bishop.
I think it'd be really interesting to see you test pairing Jörg Sprave's instant Legolas with some modern bolts vs. armor. To really give modernity the best fighting chance it could have.
Those compound bows really are better but wow the complexity in their design is something at a new level. Like comparing modern cars to older ones. But at least there is value added I will admit.
Yeah, this is like top-of-the-line top-of-the-line too so it’s like a sports car versus an old muscle car. However, old-school bows still have some solid punch! They do exceptionally well, even comparing them to the best of modern day if they have a sufficient draw weight arrow, weight, and design
Not sure its the bow so much as the arrow in particular the head shape on the Polycarbonate shield - the bodkins are quite wedge like so as they tear it open a little they are then engaging with much more of the plastic thus spreading out and getting the best of that deformation and elastic energy absorbing nature polycarbonate has. Where in the case of the thinner and sharper compound arrow heard those only need to break a relatively small area before they can sail on through the opening they have made. So many other variable in how stiff the shaft is, angle of impact, kinetic energy etc but I'd suggest that same arrow construction with a bodkin shaped head on it would be far less impressive as a direct comparision of just the arrow. Which really makes sense as modern steels mean that thinner blade like arrow head is cheap enough to make and yet still tough enough to survive the impact on a harder target - bodkins are a compromise required in history for production expediency it seems that isn't really required as much in the modern world.
It’s very true there are so many variables and I try to think of as many as I can but really there’s a lot that I miss and a lot. I don’t even know haha Best I hope for that people have fun watching it and that it sets out and proves a little bit of something
Did you know that one British guy set the world record with 110 compound bow especially made for him sounded like he pooped himself when he shot it 😎👍💯🔥🇺🇲🏹
Damn man... I wasn't planning on lifting today.... but after that intro with you looking ripped I immediately got up and started doing push ups... now here we are almost done, and I've done 3 rounds of a full body circuit of push-ups, DB rows, kettle bell squats, dips and dumbbell deadlifts. I guess I should thank you.
Would be interesting to see bodkin tipped arrows fired from the compound bow……good mix of old and new. Considering how effective the broadheads did at penetration, I think a modern bow with modern arrows but classic bodkin tips would be devastating……love the content too, well presented in an easy to understand format….perfect.
Thank you so much. So glad you enjoyed it, I spoke to the manufacturer and Wood coming out of a compound from my understanding and what he told me is not a good thing. so maybe I can figure out how to affix a bodkin on a modern arrow but not on a wooden one, don’t know if it hurts the bow or the arrow, but just not advised
@dashrendar5320 solid carbon shafts have a close weight ratio to woods. Not sure if these were solid or hollow carbon shafts. When our group got in to heavy aisiatics about a decade back, we experimented with them and found they worked well but took a bit of careful purchasing tin to get a good spine match for bows.
@@dashrendar5320 sorry for the confusion, was only talking about the arrow tips being bodkins, not a wooden shaft…although it would pretty as it exploded into thousands of splinters it probably wouldn’t be good for the archer…lol
The effectiveness of the compound bow may also be because of the carbon arrows as they are more stiffer than wood and transfer the energy to the target more effectively.
That certainly does help as Wood is not the best transfer of energy material. I think the biggest thing is just the high speed, vs armor speed is a huge factor.
@@dashrendar5320 It would be cool to see a compound bow with wooden arrows vs steel limb medieval crossbow with heavy carbon bolts, if such bolts even exist.
So my result was thanks to arrows. Full metal for ships made effects. Unfortunately they drop too much above 50m and i wouldn't use them above 100. Thanks for your hard work. At least i didn't waste my brigantine for tests.
Thank you, my friend. And thank you for the feedback. It was really helpful to get some insight from a lot of people who use compound bows and help get some direction
Okay, at the end it wasn't that much stronger than your 135 warbow. Yes it was better at the riot shield and round shield, but with the metal it was nearly the same. Defenetly sad that you send the bow back. You defenetly could make more cool video with it and there would be more possiblitys to promote there shop in future videos! 😢
Yeah against the steel it’s really not that much of a massive difference, the old bows still have some mean punch even compared to todays best. Also apa called me after the video and they loved it. They are gonna let me keep it for longer and send me some more of the massive arrows so I can test your armor much better! 😁
..... I'll take a cool 100 pound bow, and a light 500 grain arrow. And I won't put a penetrator, and I'll take a tip that's maximally inappropriate for the task.
@@grenmoyo3968 I mean, there are a lot of videos where a 60 pound bow breaks through a car door, breaks through a shovel, breaks through a car windshield. I understand that the armor is hardened and there is also a quilted cuirass behind the cuirass, which in itself is a means of personal protection. And it gets a composite that very effectively dampens energy. But... I suppose: if you take a rigid shaft, 4.2 mm internal diameter, find its spine, put a penetrator, put a b3 destruct or annihilator, glue the feathers with a screw in the same direction in which the bow rotates the arrow. and end up with an 800 grain arrow. It will eventually break through the plate, break through the gambeson.
penetrator preferably with a skirt, so that the shaft does not make a rose, does not break. The less energy is spent on deformation of the arrow, the tip - the more energy will be transferred to the target
The testing was very interesting. I was expecting the warbow arrow can do better then carbon arrow, but not full penetrate the riot shield. Still, it make the shield become unwieldy just like the ye ole day. Also hope you enjoy vacation in Da Nang.
Ha thanks my friend! Will do, yeah, the weirdness the war about arrows reacted to the riot. Shield was really strange to me. I thought it would punch right through a lot easier, but for some reason, it wasn’t quite getting it.
Dash, just be careful with finger drawing that bow! Unlike older compound bows designed for finger draw like a Bear Whitetailer, these new bows can easily jump the string of those cam wheels if you don't draw straight back and can jump those wheels with a finger release or if you torque the bow! Please be careful because if that string jumps the wheels those bow limbs are going to explode and you sure as hell don't want fiberglass splinters shooting through your bow arm! Please be careful!
Thank you. I very much will be careful, I did speak to the manufacturer at APA and he said that finger drawing is fine as that’s what I normally do but yes, definitely needs to be careful. I can just feel attention when it’s pulling back and locked in. It’s a different vibe altogether.
Glad you enjoyed it. I have been racking my brain trying to think of how to do a Warhammer video, but I can’t think of a good one yet so I interject it when I can.
It's also about energy, some bows can produce more energy with heavier arrows, some with lighter ones. Speed doesn't mean much when the kinetiic energy is too low to do anything. Generally though speed penetrates, mass crushes through targets at simiilar kinetic energies.
Rambro is a funny name, it was actually an Internet celebrity a few years ago, a crazy ram who attacked bikers on a mountain trail, people even put a punching bag for him in the woods Look it up, it's funny
@dashrendar5320 definitely, I used to watch him all the time, first people were afraid of him, but after they made a small community bringing him food and toys, don't know if he's still alive tho
Honestly that was a great breakdown. I haven't shot my bow in a while. I have a bowtech sniper that I can tune from like 45 lbs to around 75. I personally prefer it at 55 which is where I have it set. More than enough to down a deer. Armor lol not so much. My thoughts on the compound you were shooting it to me looked like the draw length was too long for you. Also don't stonefist the handle all the pressure should be right between your thumb and pointer finger basically holding it with just the thumb and pointer finger. Stonefisting causes accuracy issues with compounds and give a release a shot with a d loop and peep sight. The modern bows focus more on accuracy and hell im not pro but I was consistently getting 3 inch groups at 60+yards. Just my 2c
Thank you, my friend, and also thank you for the suggestions. This really was my second time using a compound bell so it’s still very new type of archery for me. So Feedback is always appreciated.
I saw your comment on Tod's film and immediately knew I had to see this one as well.
And oh dear I was not disappointed. Great film.
Thank you so kindly my friend! So glad you enjoyed it
@@dashrendar5320 Jepp, when seeing this in the thumbnails at Tod's, it's almost an auto click thing to see this as well.... especially with the comments highlighting the difference in draw style.
o7 The community had some complaints and you delivered perfection.
Sadly, the armor did armor things to the arrows. Maybe there will be a part two before you sent the bow back.
Thanks for the informative entertaining.
Thank you so much. I really hoped to make it the best possible and I had a lot of help from outside sources aiding me in that so I’m really grateful for it.
This is what I like to see, the kindness of people like APA Archery, Bishop & Chad Sommerville who reached out to help a fellow nerd have an early Christmas. A huge THANK YOU to them for allowing Dash to 'Nerd Hard 2: Nerd Harder' and make excellent videos for us to watch! The humour on top is a bonus. 😁😀 Pour one out for Ghost... 🍹
Haha we all felt the pain of that one… yes I consider myself truly lucky and blessed to have been given the equipment and tools to make such a fun video. It’s truly just an honor and I am happy you enjoyed the humor as well.
100# compound with a mediterranean finger draw? Respect! Much more a honest comparison here, although the accuracy clearly suffered as you obviously weren’t familiar with it and used arrows of different weight and balance.
Not really the type of shooting that monster compound was designed for, but it still delivered nicely.
As a compound shooter (Darton Consequence #70 with a thumb release aid) it’s enjoyable to watch archery nerds of really different styles have fun… whether it be ridiculously heavy longbows at medieval armour, shooting upside down on a poledancing pole with an asiatic bow, or even less weird stuff like olympic or barebows.
Thanks for that man, yeah, it felt super weird trying to aim with sights. And they arrow weight varied a lot as well. But it was still super fun to do and try and that was a great setup! I was lucky to be able to try it out
or watching a woman standing on her hands and shooting with a instant legolas bow with her feet
This is exactly what I was waiting for! I think it shows that despite less weight when compared with the war bows, that extra fps and instant energy delivery from the cams makes a difference. Great experiment!
Thank you my friend! It was an absolute blast. The bow did great and man it had some power
Edited... Subtitles got me 😂
May the 1800 grain Bishop Arrow rest in peace... would love to see that thing hit a fresh plate squarely. Outstanding video, Sir!
Original comment below.
Outstanding video! You received suggestions, and took them in stride. I'd still love to see an 800-1000 grain arrow out of the compound, but that was a MAJOR upgrade. Well done, Sir!
Thank you so much, my friend. I was happy to be able to improve and was very fortunate to be blessed with some high quality equipment, the arrow was over 1000 grains. The broadhead was 500 grains and that one beefy arrow was about 1200
Ah, I see now, thank you! Again, outstanding!
That's closer to what I was expecting~!
Yes. It was a much much better showing.
As a guy who shoots with compound bows, I agree.
That is a sweet bow man and glad to see you found an arrow that can actually give a good showing. Awesome content man keep nerding out and being awesome
Thanks, man and yeah, it was a really sweet color. I was super pumped at the fact I had a chance just to try it out. It performed really well.
I find it funny how you can make more realistic conversations between his characters than modern writers and it's also funny.
It was interesting seeing that modern bow worked better against a modern shield, it was unexpected. Shame that we didn't get to see it go against a fullhelm, but it is what it is.
Thanks for the video and have a nice day.
Thanks so much, I am glad you find it funny and enjoy it. in good news though I spoke to APA archery and they loves the video also so they’re gonna try and send me a few more arrows round two
This had me rolling. Thank you Dash. So much fun. Love the characters. Rambro FTW.
Thanks so much! So glad it gave you some laughs! And yes RamBro has his revenge for sure 💪🏹
It's honestly refreshing to see someone use the bow and arrow.
Haha it’s the most fun a person can have
I am so stoked you reached out to Bishop Archery!!!! He does awesome work and is an all around great guy! I would be willing to bet he’d send you a new build. He stands behind his work.
Yeah that arrow was an absolute menace!!! I felt cheated because it only failed because it got caught and twisted. I think it would have just kept on trucking if not for that
@@dashrendar5320I bet he’d be willing to send you another, he warranties all the work he’s ever given me, and pretty much has dared me to break it. Lol
Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for putting in the testing!
Cheers.
This was really cool to see. You did a fantastic job. Seems like you had a lot of fun!
Thanks so much, so glad you enjoyed it and yes it was an insane amount of fun
I'm still waiting for an engineer to build a supersonic bow. Imagine the possibilities.
Haha basically a rail gun at that point
Engineer with barely-medicated ADHD and a passion for all things ballistically-ridiculous here:
On it!
Most modern day composite arrows are hollow 🤔😉😬
Only need to quadruple the current fasted (string) bow speeds, can't be that hard to make such a leap, it's not like man has been developing bows for millennia
*engineering student has entered the chat
You had me cracking up. The dad humor is strong with this one.
Haha glad you enjoyed it my friend, dad humor is the best humor
AWESOME!.....Good Penetration! I need one of those BOW & ARROW combos!
Yeah man it was solid! Did get great work
This was freaking awesome, I was so excited to see this video notification pop up. What a beast that bow is!
Thanks so much man! I was thrilled apa let me borrow it for this video! It truly is just an absolute menace 😂
now this was a fair test, well done Dash! now you get what we mean that time, we use to test your arrows on 2- 2.5mm steel plate and a well setted 450gn arrown with a 70lb bow pass through the steel like butter, so we do know what those bows are capable of
Thank you, my friend. I was very fortunate to have been able to get some quality equipment to really ramp up the testing and make it as good as I possibly could. I am very gracious that I got the opportunity to experiment with this stuff.
i've gone from a trad archery background into compound lately and its amazing seeing you test the extremes of modern materials and archery engineering
Thanks my friend it was an absolute privilege for me to try as well. Just such a different world and so much power in that bow
Great video Dash! How did it feel to actually hold a full draw! :D. I love the community in this channel and how so many people are reaching out to provide help with new arrows and the compound. Keep up the wonderful work my friend!
Man once it broke it was like holding literally nothing 😂😂 it was crazy. Also yes it’s been so amazing and fun with all the people who enjoy the same stuff. An absolute blast with quality people
I love you got something out of the rumble that the latter video related to this topic had and what I got from this video is that there's a clear difference in what is put on the spotlight between medieval weapons and the modern ones, medieval and the modern arrows just showed that to penetrate steel there's a focus on momentum and inertia (thus,they could pass through Kevlar just like butter)but modern weapons and warfare from early 20th century onwards focuses more into hiw much kinetic energy the bullets can deliver, it's not a matter of what's better or worse but about the needs we have in a given historical moment...great job!!!
Well said, everything really is Tailored for its specific moment in history. It’s fun to mash them all together and see how they perform from varying eras
Really looking forward to joining you in February in the war of the barons. It'll be my first event with Fell and Fair.
Sweet!! Gonna be a blast!
Funny and entertaining. Thanks DR for your time and efforts. Cheers.
You are most welcome my friend m! Thank you so much and so glad you were entertained
Yes, I'm on a binge watch. I'm glad he popped up in my recommended. That new bow is a shoulder killing beast. Oh Em Gee!
Haha yeah that thing was a beast very different to have such a heavy load on the initial pull but it was super cool to shoot
@@dashrendar5320 Thanks for informative and entertaining content!
You are most welcome glad you enjoyed it
Glad you revisited this. Awesome video man, keep it up.
Thank you, I was honored to have been able to get some amazing equipment to put the best showing for it I possibly could. It was a blast.
Great honest review mate it showed both strength and the weakness of both bows and that they both have a place, the compound may have the edge on some penetration and speed tests but the long bow arrows are far more robust and can definitely take more of a pounding.
Thanks man! So glad you enjoyed it. Yeah I was able to really ramp it up thanks to the much better compound bow and better arrow but they really are specific tools for specific tasks.
Each excels in their own way
so many characters in one video gives me the feeling that the dashverse multiverse has been confirmed, great video man 👍, and that arrow piercing that tactical shield for a police officer would be impressive and at the same time terrifying 😅💀🏹🗿
Haha Dashverse confirmed!! Yeah I could not imagine being on the other side of that shield haha
Awesome video and love the testing on a variety of older and modern technologies
Thank you so much! So glad you enjoyed it
I think I don’t relate to your humor…but I still enjoy listening through your intros and your videos overall. You tell stories that I want to watch.
Haha glad you still enjoy watching it, it’s certainly fun to try to come up with some sort of narrative flow
@@dashrendar5320I do! I really like how much effort you put into your work but still prioritizing your kids. Not many good role model dad's for other dad's to watch.
Great video man
Thank you my friend
i like watching these (no offense) smaller view videos, easier to watch without a lot of big name adverts, and honest comparison. love ur vids
No offense taken. I like the small channel feel it makes it feel like it’s more just sharing videos with friends, then trying to generate money.
@@dashrendar5320 exactly, i hope one day to reach the level of strength you have 😅
Keep at it my friend 💪🏹
Watching this in my tent, bow hunting. Feels right!
Watch for armored deer 💪🏹
Nice come back from last video, respect.
Thanks, my friend. I appreciate that, I was super fortunate to be able to try out some really cool high-tech stuff and man it was a blast. it was a privilege to try it out and see how it worked
I’m also here after your comment on Tods Workshop. I’m already love all of you and I’m keen to see where you go from here
Thank you so much. So glad you enjoy the videos. I am excited to have some more fun as well haha
Congrats on the modern war bow! That thing is sweet. I love my compound for hunting and extream accuracy but my recurve war bow is just something extra special to shoot for me
Thanks man, it’s actually just a lease, they sent it to me graciously to test, but I am gonna have to send it back so it was still very fun to use
@ even so it’s still an awesome bow for them to lease to you. I still want to try to make some carbon arrows for my war bow just because I think it would be nice for shooting at local ranges. As always you have amazing videos
Coming from Tod Cutler. Great video :) Don't push it. Push it good!
Ha thanks man! I had fun goofing around defiantly, but man…Tod and Joe just had to go and make a better bow and a better video 😂😂 but I loved it
Almost at 260k man. Great! Up and up😁😁😁 Love from Australia bud👊
Thanks my dude!! Still having way too much fun 😂😂
"This is me before I started using the king cobra bow, this is me once I laid my eyes upon it"🤣😂
😂😂 I definitely gave myself a few chuckles, trying to write out a script
@@dashrendar5320 You do a dang fine job!
Thank you my friend
Please don't be disappointed this was freaking awesome. I'd love to be able to help you out, I'm surprised you don't have a bunch of sponsors. You make me laugh, I'm watching and thinking it would be funny seeing you film this, you'd look like you've lost the plot with all the different personalities 😂
Haha I can only imagine how it looks from the outside. And thanks so much for that my friend, so glad you enjoy the fun and humor. I was hoping to get more out of the tests but it was still a blast
You are funnier than you think based on the number of characters you have spawned...
Excellent video!
Thank you, my friend. You are kind to say so.
One of the best YT channels out there🎉 such a great Content🤩🤩
Thank you so much. So glad you enjoy it, it’s a true pleasure and joy to make these videos
@dashrendar5320 youre Welcome! Im also into stronger bows, maybe you can geht your hands on a 110 lbs super shrew, these are very good and fast bows, would be a great video in youre channel🤩 greetings from Bavaria, Germany
Oh wow, that would be so cool. I just looked those up, definitely on the pricer range…I will have to save for a while to get that one 💪🏹 but maybe one day
Wonderful data, those bow and arrows make a beast.
Thank you, my friend. Yeah that combination was devastating for sure.
Finger draw with a compound is totally fine, that's how I prefer to do it too. Cool ass video, hope you're able to do more.
Yeah I thought so too. But a lot of people were giving me a bunch of grief
I'm loving redemption arc from annoying rival to lovable sidekick.
Haha I actually enjoy it also. He much more fun as an endearing companion that’s just be bit slow on the uptick
Nice! Finger drawing on a 100lbs compound. Just flexing on every hunter out there 😂
That's a much better showing for the compound. Loved how it tore through that wood shield.
Keep up the amazing work, hoss 🏹🤘🏿🤙🏿
Haha well it wasn’t really a flex per se. I have just never used that device thing so it would feel weird I think but yeah, it was super satisfying to see it just punching into stuff!! 💪🏹
Nice work! As a compound archer, I am satisfied with your set up. You did everything right. Only small thing that might improve what your doing is to have your bow tuned so there is the least deviation in your arrow during flight as possible. The straighter that arrow is when it flies, the less energy it wastes and the straighter it is on impact, the better penetration it will have. But I wouldn't expect to see much difference.
Thank you for that my friend. Yeah it was really great. I had a lot of compound archers help me out and give me some guidance and of course I got a great set up from APA archery and Bishop for the arrows so I consider myself very lucky to be able to try it
Another great video! That compound bow is a beast!
Would be curious to see if the arrow shafts get better penetration with graphite powder coating applied to reduce friction. Shouldn't be expensive to do, just a bit of time to apply prior to testing. Thought of this due to seeing it mentioned in another video as a cheap means to deal with stuck wooden dresser drawers
Thanks man! Glad you enjoyed it, yeah it’s a Brute for sure massive power. That would be interesting to see for sure. I am still waiting. The company said that they would try to send me some more of the really big arrows so I just have to wait until they can get access to Mor.
500 grains at 365 fps is 148 ft-lbs (201 J). That's a higher figure than any yew warbow. I suspect this bow could do better against hardened steel plate with heads optimized for that. I'm impressed you managed to penetrate the brigandine plate so deeply, given how broad the arrowhead is. Around a decade ago, Kevin Strother claimed to hunt with compound bows that deliver over 165 ft-lbs with very light arrows.
Yeah, it’s definitely a beast. As far as I know it’s the most powerful bow on the market and I agree if they made modern day optimized bodkin points I think it would do better.
@@dashrendar5320 I bet it is. Strother is (or at least was) in the business of making bows & had custom extra-heavy limbs. So the bows he shot probably weren't regularly available back then (or now).
Can't wait for a compound sling showcase
Haha that would be a funny thing to visualize
@@tatecrossette2855 wait .. (also engineer here) are we thinking a counterweighted manual sling with a pulley system?? 🤔
@dutchy661 Sure.
Enjoyed this, thanks Dash
Most welcome my friend! Glad you enjoyed it
Great test brother! Looks like 5 armored deer are really upset. More may come out of the woods in the near future 😅
Nice jokes as well, especially the Star Wars one floored me.
Thanks man. It was super cool to try. I was so privileged to have that bow and the best news is APA archery actually reached out to me and said they loved it too and they’re gonna try and send me a couple more arrows! Also glad you enjoyed. I had a lot of fun writing them.
Great work Rendar! See You on the next instalment! 10/10. End.
Thank you so much. So glad you enjoyed it.
That is a heck of a well built bow and arrow from Bishop. The other arrows supplied were also impressive. This in line with what I expect of a compund this ridiculous. A little surprised it did not do better on brigand, but armour was made to stop arrows.
Yeah, it’s an absolute menace of a combination. I couldn’t believe how big the arrow was when I got it haha. It is true though..armor works at the end of the day haha, but still it was amazing to try and see
Rambro had me coughing from laughing lol
Bro you dropped this while I'm at work!! How am I supposed to focus now!!??
Hahaha sorry sorry sorry
@@dashrendar5320 Same for me I watched it 2 times. First time without sound on the toilet at work and a second time after work at home with audio. 😂
A modern high draw compound bow and with arrow to match, get to strut their stuff and show that even after all this time, archery still has a few new tricks up it's sleeves.
Told ya so! Modern compounds will shoot the same weight arrows faster and farther that hit harder when they get there than the old war bows and do it at lower draw weights. How they can take elephant, rhino, and cape buffalo. Should have kept going with the old wood arrows w bodkins/plate cutters from the modern bow; that's what we do.
Haha well to be fair, I never doubted it…I just did not have the right equipment. However, on the side spoke to APA archery after the video and they loved it so they’re gonna try and send me a couple more of the arrows from Bishop.
Oh I think you are funnier than you think you are! Your definition is greatly increased yet you are still humble about it. Skal!
Thank you, my friend. I am glad you enjoyed the humor and some of my favorite part of making videos.
@dashrendar5320 : And you do it so well!
I think it'd be really interesting to see you test pairing Jörg Sprave's instant Legolas with some modern bolts vs. armor. To really give modernity the best fighting chance it could have.
Man I wonder how I would even do that
Those compound bows really are better but wow the complexity in their design is something at a new level. Like comparing modern cars to older ones. But at least there is value added I will admit.
Yeah, this is like top-of-the-line top-of-the-line too so it’s like a sports car versus an old muscle car. However, old-school bows still have some solid punch! They do exceptionally well, even comparing them to the best of modern day if they have a sufficient draw weight arrow, weight, and design
Not sure its the bow so much as the arrow in particular the head shape on the Polycarbonate shield - the bodkins are quite wedge like so as they tear it open a little they are then engaging with much more of the plastic thus spreading out and getting the best of that deformation and elastic energy absorbing nature polycarbonate has. Where in the case of the thinner and sharper compound arrow heard those only need to break a relatively small area before they can sail on through the opening they have made. So many other variable in how stiff the shaft is, angle of impact, kinetic energy etc but I'd suggest that same arrow construction with a bodkin shaped head on it would be far less impressive as a direct comparision of just the arrow.
Which really makes sense as modern steels mean that thinner blade like arrow head is cheap enough to make and yet still tough enough to survive the impact on a harder target - bodkins are a compromise required in history for production expediency it seems that isn't really required as much in the modern world.
It’s very true there are so many variables and I try to think of as many as I can but really there’s a lot that I miss and a lot. I don’t even know haha Best I hope for that people have fun watching it and that it sets out and proves a little bit of something
@@dashrendar5320 Indeed you present something a little bit scienctific in a very amusing way - which is great.
Did you know that one British guy set the world record with 110 compound bow especially made for him sounded like he pooped himself when he shot it 😎👍💯🔥🇺🇲🏹
Yup hahaha it was a nice 4 days at the top until Tod and Joe decided to one up me 😂😂
haha that was a super enjoyable video, loved the skits!
Hey thanks man! I had a ton of fun with it for sure
incredible 💪💪💪💪🙏
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Damn man... I wasn't planning on lifting today.... but after that intro with you looking ripped I immediately got up and started doing push ups... now here we are almost done, and I've done 3 rounds of a full body circuit of push-ups, DB rows, kettle bell squats, dips and dumbbell deadlifts. I guess I should thank you.
Haha that’s awesome! It’s go time my dude! Any motivation is good motivation 💪🏹
How can someone hate the intros? lol...keep up!
Hahaha I dunno a few grumpy people giving me grief..but it’s fun for me so I don’t care 😂
I watch the intro then turn the video off when dash starts getting serious!
And now, 4 days later, Tod and Joe comes and ruin your glory! 😉 But you were first and there are no second places in war and love! 😄
Man, I just watched that video and it thrilled me to no end to see it!! Hahah but yes they had to outdo me 😂
nice video! thx you made my morning coffee taste better:)
That’s awesome to hear my friend 💪🏹
Wow I clicked on this because of the thumbnail I had no idea how involved this would be
Haha I have a bit of flair for the theatric I guess you could say
Would be interesting to see bodkin tipped arrows fired from the compound bow……good mix of old and new. Considering how effective the broadheads did at penetration, I think a modern bow with modern arrows but classic bodkin tips would be devastating……love the content too, well presented in an easy to understand format….perfect.
Thank you so much. So glad you enjoyed it, I spoke to the manufacturer and Wood coming out of a compound from my understanding and what he told me is not a good thing. so maybe I can figure out how to affix a bodkin on a modern arrow but not on a wooden one, don’t know if it hurts the bow or the arrow, but just not advised
@dashrendar5320 solid carbon shafts have a close weight ratio to woods. Not sure if these were solid or hollow carbon shafts. When our group got in to heavy aisiatics about a decade back, we experimented with them and found they worked well but took a bit of careful purchasing tin to get a good spine match for bows.
@@dashrendar5320 sorry for the confusion, was only talking about the arrow tips being bodkins, not a wooden shaft…although it would pretty as it exploded into thousands of splinters it probably wouldn’t be good for the archer…lol
The effectiveness of the compound bow may also be because of the carbon arrows as they are more stiffer than wood and transfer the energy to the target more effectively.
That certainly does help as Wood is not the best transfer of energy material. I think the biggest thing is just the high speed, vs armor speed is a huge factor.
@@dashrendar5320 It would be cool to see a compound bow with wooden arrows vs steel limb medieval crossbow with heavy carbon bolts, if such bolts even exist.
Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency.
At least we got one shirtless shot.
Wish-Aragorn? BUWAHAHAHA!
Hahaha gave myself a chuckle with that
So my result was thanks to arrows. Full metal for ships made effects. Unfortunately they drop too much above 50m and i wouldn't use them above 100. Thanks for your hard work. At least i didn't waste my brigantine for tests.
Haha true true, good thing about brigandine though is that you can replace the plates haha
This bow is impressive! Great video.
If you could find a new heavy arrow with a AP/bodkin point it will be perfect.
Thank you, my friend. And thank you for the feedback. It was really helpful to get some insight from a lot of people who use compound bows and help get some direction
Okay, at the end it wasn't that much stronger than your 135 warbow. Yes it was better at the riot shield and round shield, but with the metal it was nearly the same.
Defenetly sad that you send the bow back. You defenetly could make more cool video with it and there would be more possiblitys to promote there shop in future videos! 😢
Yeah against the steel it’s really not that much of a massive difference, the old bows still have some mean punch even compared to todays best. Also apa called me after the video and they loved it. They are gonna let me keep it for longer and send me some more of the massive arrows so I can test your armor much better! 😁
@dashrendar5320 that's great but still. Others get paid for testing their products. It should be your bow now!
Haha while that may be true…I am In it for the fun haha…so as long as I get to try cool stuff I good 😂
@@dashrendar5320 you are a kind man!
@@dashrendar5320 Technically, the old style arrows carried the energy punch, and I bet that new compound bow could push them fairly well.
..... I'll take a cool 100 pound bow, and a light 500 grain arrow. And I won't put a penetrator, and I'll take a tip that's maximally inappropriate for the task.
I was gonna say, that broadhead ain't no bodkin!
@@grenmoyo3968 I mean, there are a lot of videos where a 60 pound bow breaks through a car door, breaks through a shovel, breaks through a car windshield. I understand that the armor is hardened and there is also a quilted cuirass behind the cuirass, which in itself is a means of personal protection. And it gets a composite that very effectively dampens energy. But... I suppose: if you take a rigid shaft, 4.2 mm internal diameter, find its spine, put a penetrator, put a b3 destruct or annihilator, glue the feathers with a screw in the same direction in which the bow rotates the arrow. and end up with an 800 grain arrow. It will eventually break through the plate, break through the gambeson.
penetrator preferably with a skirt, so that the shaft does not make a rose, does not break. The less energy is spent on deformation of the arrow, the tip - the more energy will be transferred to the target
Great Video; I laughed really hard at the Nam joke
Thank you so much, so glad you got a kick out of it
Saw your post on tods video and knew i had to subscribe here, too
Haha hope you enjoy, bit of a different flavor than Tod, more goofy and less rigorous science. But big bows and weapons all the same 😂
@@dashrendar5320 A different tack maybe, but great content all the same and ultimately probably more entertaining!
@tods_workshop thank you so much, my friend. I have been watching your stuff for longer than I can remember, and you never disappoint.
The testing was very interesting. I was expecting the warbow arrow can do better then carbon arrow, but not full penetrate the riot shield. Still, it make the shield become unwieldy just like the ye ole day. Also hope you enjoy vacation in Da Nang.
Ha thanks my friend! Will do, yeah, the weirdness the war about arrows reacted to the riot. Shield was really strange to me. I thought it would punch right through a lot easier, but for some reason, it wasn’t quite getting it.
KNIGHT OF RUSTY ARMOR!!!! HERE AT YOUR SERVICE....
Let’s gooo!
That was awesome!
Thanks man! Glad you enjoyed it!
The arrows did great!
The King Cobra delivered!
Indeed it did. That thing worked great, and those arrows were tough.
15:05 that caught me off guard lmao
Haha I think I am losing my mind more and more as I am making these skits 😂😂
Dash, just be careful with finger drawing that bow! Unlike older compound bows designed for finger draw like a Bear Whitetailer, these new bows can easily jump the string of those cam wheels if you don't draw straight back and can jump those wheels with a finger release or if you torque the bow! Please be careful because if that string jumps the wheels those bow limbs are going to explode and you sure as hell don't want fiberglass splinters shooting through your bow arm! Please be careful!
Thank you. I very much will be careful, I did speak to the manufacturer at APA and he said that finger drawing is fine as that’s what I normally do but yes, definitely needs to be careful. I can just feel attention when it’s pulling back and locked in. It’s a different vibe altogether.
The Warhammer reference has me dying!
Glad you enjoyed it. I have been racking my brain trying to think of how to do a Warhammer video, but I can’t think of a good one yet so I interject it when I can.
YES!
It’s go time!
If you use a 100lb compound bow with heavy arrows, what do you use for a target?
A car?
Hahaha I think people use them for like Cape buffalo
And now it's time to compare recurve bows with compound bows
I used a 135lb at 28” recurve bow in many of the armor tests I compared the compound bow to actually
It's also about energy, some bows can produce more energy with heavier arrows, some with lighter ones. Speed doesn't mean much when the kinetiic energy is too low to do anything. Generally though speed penetrates, mass crushes through targets at simiilar kinetic energies.
Indeed! That’s why I used modern arrows that weighed as much as the warbow arrows, I could not believe how heavy the one from “bishop” was
Good Job , thanks
Thanks man! Tried to improve a bunch from the last video
Nooooo... You missed the plate... BROOOOO.. lol.
Oh well... NICE
Haha yeah I was bummed but they are possibly gonna send me some more arrows so just waiting haha
im impressed you drew that with your finger tips
The old spice reference got me lol
Haha yeah I gave myself a chuckle with that
Rambro is a funny name, it was actually an Internet celebrity a few years ago, a crazy ram who attacked bikers on a mountain trail, people even put a punching bag for him in the woods
Look it up, it's funny
Haha really? That’s quite hilarious actually I will need to search for that
@dashrendar5320 definitely, I used to watch him all the time, first people were afraid of him, but after they made a small community bringing him food and toys, don't know if he's still alive tho
APA for the win 💪🏼
Yeah that bow puts in some massive work!
@@dashrendar5320I’ve got the APA black mamba in 80lb and I thought that put the hurt on stuff 🤣
Haha man it’s a cool piece of technology…just and absolute menace….i was genuinely trepidations when first drawing it back
Honestly that was a great breakdown. I haven't shot my bow in a while. I have a bowtech sniper that I can tune from like 45 lbs to around 75. I personally prefer it at 55 which is where I have it set. More than enough to down a deer. Armor lol not so much. My thoughts on the compound you were shooting it to me looked like the draw length was too long for you. Also don't stonefist the handle all the pressure should be right between your thumb and pointer finger basically holding it with just the thumb and pointer finger. Stonefisting causes accuracy issues with compounds and give a release a shot with a d loop and peep sight. The modern bows focus more on accuracy and hell im not pro but I was consistently getting 3 inch groups at 60+yards. Just my 2c
Thank you, my friend, and also thank you for the suggestions. This really was my second time using a compound bell so it’s still very new type of archery for me. So Feedback is always appreciated.
also i'd like to say... who the fuck need a mechanic release when you have such a clean release... man i really envy your release, is clean af
Thanks man that’s good to hear this is like my second time with the compound bow so I’m happy to know I’m not making a fool of myself 😂
Somebody get this video to Rogan, let's get our boy some exposure. 😂
I lost ten pounds since your last fitness video. Consistency is working.
Congratulations my friend! Kudos and keep up the great work
that arrow is nuts
Dude it was absolutely massive 😂😂