Over the years, I owned six 911s. So while serving in Afghanistan in late 2010, I purchased my 3.2 over the phone right before the air-cooled market went up in price. Without seeing it in person, I paid $15k cash (no loan) for my 100% all original black/black 1987 3.2 coupe w/50k on it. I had the car shipped to me from GA to TX without a PPI and when I finally got home in late 2011, I couldn't be any happier! I still have it.
FET Engineer Congrats on a damned good purchase bro! Thanks for your service and drive the wheels off it like it was meant to! I’m in FW,TX and will keep my eyes open if ya motor by-
You also bought the better 911. A little more power, and much better G50 transmission. I personally loved mine. I bought it in 2001 in absolutely mint condition and had a 97 M3 sedan with a 5-speed as a daily. The 87-89 was quicker than the 85s and the transmission was much better. Unfortunately I sold the the car in 2005 for an R32 GTR.
Everyone make sure to be in awww of this mans money. He made such a point to let us know he paid $15k cash without having to take out a loan. He is so much better than us poor people.
@@MrReviewer If your reviews were more professional, more people would probably start watching them, but not like that. You have to be able to appeal to a larger group
I had a chance to buy a 72 911 when I lived in Germany in 2001 for 12k. I argued with my wife (she wanted an 84 930 Turbo that was the same price and I didn't because it would kill her) and we yelled at each other and left. Soooooo mad that I didn't go back the next day and buy it. It was beautiful. Silver with a tan leather interior. Just basic but beautiful.
Yeah ok. That car would cost about $58k in Europe at the moment, where the true bubble is going on. The stupidest thing is that the 3.2 engine in good shape with recent rebuild alone costs here about $30k USD. And if you want to rebuild a 2.7 - 3.2 engine, the parts alone will set you back about $10k, if you manage to use the existing cylinders, pistons, conrods and crank... if not, prepare your wallet. And then we could discuss how much 964 or 933 3.6 engine costs. Air cooled Porsches are no longer cars for your average middle class enthusiasts.
I have a 1982 911SC. And I love it!!! Yes, it's not very fast, but when you're doing 65 mph, it sounds and feels like you're doing 80! I have driven modern 911's and a Cayenne Turbo, and they are amazing cars. But, I still enjoy my simple, under-powered 911 SC more! Thank you for your vid! It's a hoot!
I remember when my dad first brought his black '78 911 SC home back in 1988. I was 5 years old and it was the most gorgeous thing I've ever laid my eyes on. We treated it like a family car; my two brothers and I all piled in the back and we took road trips in it (yes, there was seating for 5; my little brother had to sit in the middle on what I liked to call the "hump"). He eventually sold it to buy our house. Never knew what he got out of it, but man, those cars are special and I miss it to this day.
This is a great video and took me back to a time in '88 when I bought an '87 wide-bodied Carrera 3.2 full convertible, complete with whale-tail, in guards red, black leather with red piping. What a car !!!!!! With the top down and 4500rpms the sound was just beautiful. Designed and built by engineers - NOT accountants !
The 911 is the epitome of a true sports car. Not the prettiest, fastest or even most reliable sports car. But it is an example of great engineering and passion. A timex is cheaper and more reliable than a submariner while performing the same task, but there is passion or craftsmanship. Same thing with all 911’s.
+Venturi Atlantique Most probably true. The car will for sure need some repairs to be done because of its age (as any other), but it could end up being more reliable than a 15 year old Porsche today.
+Venturi Atlantique Yep. German cars are among the most complicated ones to work on due to their engineering design and loaded with all kinds of crap (really interesting ones until they break down). Mechanical and electrical problems (engine, transmission, etc) are nightmares that many times the repairing costs are greater than the car's value. As many enthusiasts and mechanics say: "They don't make them like they used to".
Kyle D could not have put it better myself. Plebs keep buying the crap imitations we’ll wear the “overpriced” rolexes and drive the air cooled 911s. Nothing sounds like an air cooled 911...nothing drives like one either - to the presenter of this lame video if you want value go buy a toyota
Daddy is one of the main Freddy’s burger franchisees in the Midwest. Those ain’t cheap to open up, you got to have a serious net worth to be even considered as a franchisee so you know his dad was loaded before. Hoovie here is gonna take that all over so he is fine. In the mean time he “works” for his dad running his franchises and makes videos for RUclips while buying cars that lose him money most of the time. Must be nice
People always say the Hoovie and Doug Demuro are the same. I disagree. Doug DeMuro is great for finding the weird quirks and features of the coolest cars in the world. And Hoovie is good to watch a man slowly go insane as he buys too many cars that all need repairs.
I've owned several old VW bugs and have ridden in many old 911's. They all smell the same. It's awesome. Anytime I get in one it's nothing but huge waves of nostalgia.
I at first never really understood buying an old car that doesn't go near as fast as new cars until I rode in one of these. My uncle has a 1989 911 Carrera with the duck-tail spoiler and the front splitter (much like this one) and I just loved the experience, so easy to heel-toe downshift and the lightness and smallness is really fun on sharp corners, I really look forward to owning one someday.
Driving experience is more important than raw stats and Porsche has always understood this. Sadly, consumer demands and regulations just don‘t care. It‘s hard to market something through advertising that you have to actually drive to „get“. It‘s a problem that has infested pretty much every rung in society and it has ruined a lot. Consumers buy spec sheets and now everything is worse.
As somebody who came from the former Soviet Union - let me tell you this - I would never buy a car like this from any of the Soviet Union republics. A Lada - sure, but never a Porsche.
My retirement portfolio is comprised of 70% cabbage patch kids in the original boxes & 30% hot wheels prior to 1975. My accountant in the 80’s said my nest egg was valued at just over 2 million dollars. My current accountant says my portfolio is valued at just under 2 dollars,... who knew the Michael Bublé would burst?
bighands69.. I bought a '73 911, German Racing Silver, front S spoiler and Sport seats for $6000 in 1987. Should have kept it for what they are going for now. Plus, I got more girls than I did in my Pinto before it. Go figure.
Don't knock odor as a potential indicator of trouble. I test drove a used car that had obviously had its engine cleaned recently (also a warning sign) and during the drive faint odors of coolant and oil were detectable. I declined.
I recently picked up a 1995 993 and I just have to say I am absolutely in love with it. It is easily the most engaging car I have ever owned. Before I bought it, I was looking at SC’s, then 3.2’s and when I finally decided it was gonna cost in the high $40’s to get what I wanted in terms of condition, I just decided to step up to the 993. I’m so glad I did.
Embrace that 915 transaxle, it will make you a better driver. On another note, the great increase in value of these, has turned my 82 SC daily driver, into a semi-daily driver, and made me pull my 67 911S off of the track, and am currently restoring it to a road car, again. It's cheaper and easier to race a Miata, especially when the $6000 car you bought 30 years ago, to go racing with, is now worth over $100,000. Absolutely blown away at the prices of the SWB cars, and all the air-cooled cars, for that matter. You can put all of the horsepower and technology into the new 911's, but it's nothing like driving the pure sports car that Butzi brought to us.
I'd agree with Max tbh...not sure how you could ever love someone that barely speaks your language and doesn't seem to have anything in common with you...
My favorite car of all time: 1988 Porsche 911 3.2L Coupe with whale tail and chin spoiler. But also with the G50 transmission. Black on Black. Some day it will be mine!
Great video! Drive and enjoy it. Keep up the regular maintenances, leave the vehicle as stock form possible, and you will never be regret in the many joyful years to come. This is definitely one of the many beautiful 3.2 Carreras!
My Dad and I have the only air-cooled Porsche in our home country of Mozambique, an 82 Targa SC. Bought last year, the seller needed some cash quickly so we got a hell of a deal even though the car has over 200.000km on it, and was involved in a minor accident.
Wow, amazing oil cooled Porsche 911 my friend, it’s one of my dream cars since I fell in love with them during the 80s era in Miami. God willing, I’ll have one someday, but I’m just as happy seeing u enjoying one. Thanks for sharing the experience! God bless u, ur family and ur channel since u always put a smile on all of us 😇
I only wish Porsche's had a lot in common with VW's. They have very little, and are much more finicky than a classic bug could ever be. If you want a bit of advice from a 2 Porsche(1969 912, 2004 911 Carrera) household. Drive the car, a lot. The 911's are some of the most reliable cars in the world. But if you don't drive the car, and maintain the car. It will be the biggest pain in the pocketbook, you could imagine. Guess what people do with them, drive them very little. I'm more and more convinced my 69 912 is very much like a Herbie. If I let her sit for more than week she complains, loudly. If I express a concern in the presence of the car, I would swear the car does it's best to belay those concerns. It may sound very odd, but when talking to my fellow old German car owners. They agree with me(even my mechanic), they have similar experiences.
Of all the cars you have reviewed; This is my absolute favorite. Next is the E28 which I happen to own. I'm sad to say I hope the air cooled 911 is a bubble because I have always wanted to own this car. Tyler, You are great; I love both you and Doug. Please continue putting out great content. You guys are awesome and I can only wish to someday experience the hoopty fleet since you and I have a very similar interest in cars. Aside from your crazy Bentley and Rolls decisions which I feel are great for your channel, everything else I am in love with. Wish you the best of luck! Love you man, Keep it up!!! Let me know if you get sick of your red 911, I have been hunting for one since I was 17 when they were 11k
lol! Thanks, I think you single handedly broke my obsession with wanting an air cooled unit. Doesn't really matter, I will never be able to afford it anyway. Wish I had your sense of humor, and just a little money.....
I,ve got a 1986 Cabriolet that I had built for me on my 40th birthday. It’s guards red with a new top and I had the motor rebuilt at 165,000 miles. It’s clutch was replaced at the same time. I have people wanting to buy this car all the time. My sentimental attachment and it’s great condition just keeps me from selling. I love this car and even though I have only put about 5000 miles on it in 10 years I won’t part with it.
Americans really are spoiled. If you cannot afford a lightweight sports car like a Porsche. You can easily find a muscle car get it modified and still have an amazing car. In europe none of that is possible. The only really option is Porsche. You have to be a millionaire in Europe to own a V8 car and I am not exaggerating and I mean that literally.
bighands69 Yep totally true. We get absolutely screwed in the UK from every angle. Wages are less, prices are higher, standard of living less, houses are tiny and expensive, petrol costs are unreal.. US get access to V8s that are affordable, classic and plentiful 911s which only the most wealthy can afford in the UK. US spec Audi/BMW/Merc cars are loaded with options as standard that in the UK would cost £5-£7k. UK Govt told us to buy diesels, now have changed their mind so all diesel owners are being punished and forced off the road with emissions tax and new MOT which targets diesel emissions and made up environmental 'green' issues. . Non such bullshit in the US, some states dont even have inspections!
+James 1975 I am glad that I moved out of the UK. When New Labour came on the scene I just knew that the UK was finished. All the work done previous in the UK which actually would have allowed a more free market approach simply were destroyed. The only reason I now visit the UK is see family but sometime down the line that may stop. It saddens me to think of what the UK could have been. My father worked in the UK car industry that got destroyed by government interference. It was Tony Benn who destroyed the UK car industry along with the steel industry. My grandfather had a late 60s 911 that he bought in the UK which was competitively priced back then and he also had an aston DB3 and they were both the most amazing cars I have ever seen. If you are a young person I suggest getting out of the EU or UK. I suspect that the brexit U-turn has already begun.
I am glad you got out of the UK. I should have done the same years ago when New Labour came in, but decided to stay as I had already bought a house. Things have gone downhill massively, especially in the last 10-15 years. Have been hoping for a big turnaround at some point, but I don't think it is going to happen. I am sick of hearing about Brexit, its all I have heard for the last 2 years. It should never have been voted for in the first place and is now used a scapegoat for everything negative that happens, even if it is totally unrelated. Unfortunately I am now middle-aged (user name prob gives it away) being 43, so stuck with it. Would love to move to the States - business wise it seems so much more positive there and find the mindset more inspiring.. Its probably why I watch so much US content on RUclips!
Great video! By the way, you forgot to mention that your passenger seat is 'a' driver seat... aircooled 911=the car! Mine started as a birthday gift (a 2nd one!) of my newly met wife, than it became our wedding car and now 25+ yrs later we both still enjoy it and 'dragged it' from house to house, even emigrated with us.. no matter the worth, it's just our old banger!
OK So I just sorted out a '89 after a year in the garage and I've been driving it for break in. I think once sorted they are so excellent and I just can't believe how engaging the car is. Really like nothing else. The tern go kart is overused, but the rear engine, no weight up front, floor mounted pedals, and no power steering is just like a go kart. You feel the engine in the back and have to adapt your driving to the car, not the car to the driver. Extremely rewarding driving experience and because it's not too fast, you can hit redline in multiple gears and not go to jail. Mine is staying with me.
Just watched this so I don’t know if Tyler will ever see my comment. I just bought what is arguably the cheapest running and driving ‘86 911 cabriolet. 238K miles . It’s my first 911 and I absolutely adore it. I totally get where you’re coming from. My first 15 minutes behind the wheel were embarrassing while I got better at shifting the 915 gearbox. I bonded with the car during the 5 hours it took driving it home from Green Bay WI. These are amazing cars and I can’t wait to get it out on some twisty roads with the top down. Cheers!
My v6 swapped mr2 cost a fraction compared and I enjoy it. $5000 + parts are reasonable. There might be nothing like a Porsche, but I'm happy with my car for weekend driving.
@@wholeNwon - yeah sure nowadays. But my first 'student' car for cheap was an early 80's Germany-built VW Jetta, really spartan features but the quality on that simple everyday car was undeniable. It even smelled awesome. I still miss that old era of quality German cars.
I'm not sure the value going up has to be considered "overpaying"... If I was made of money I'd have a huge Porsche collection, no matter the price. For now I'll stick to hoopties tho ;D
Awesome. I had an 87 and it was everything I hoped it would be. So much fun and quirky and mechanical. Perfect. Smells, sounds. Your love for that baby only grows.
I had a burgundy (Rubinrot) Cabriolet of this year. I had it for 5 years and sold it for almost same price that I had paid for it. This video reallly brought back great memories. I only did the clutch and alternator in the 5 years I owned it. So reliable. The alternator is behind the impellar wheel and I did the job myself. It took 3 days because I had the original alternator rebuilt. You will find on these cars that Porsche would have to switch suppliers of electronics during the production runs occasionally. So parts don't always match the factory workshop manual exactly. Sometimes, it is better to rebuild the original part. I was so impressed with the engineering and build quality and quite satisfied with myself when that engine lit on the first try after I did the alternator. A truly epic driving experience I will never forget.
I owned a 1979 Carrera 3.0 Targa and he is right by describing it as truly engaging an bringing an instant smile to your face. I bought mine 2nd hand in 1986 and it only had 52.000 kilometers on the clock and i payed 32.000 deutsch marks back then and i wan only 20 years old so YES i was a spoiled brat packer! The most fun car i ever had and yes it brought a smile to your face and there was never a dull moment. So much character.
Thanks Hoovie! Yeah. Very much like the 911 I had in college (but it blew up on me on the road.) I was tempted to buy another 911 a few years ago, but instead bought a perfect, low mileage RX7 convertible. Yeah yeah I know - the PCA would laugh and turn up their nose at it. Truth is: not only does the rotary engine run like a pup, and it never needs anything; the interior is ALL leather - and THE AC ALWAYS WORKS! I'd also put it up against any Porsche or Corvette of the same era. I put the money I saved (about $30,000) toward my Tesla Model 3 - which is faster than any of these cars. Smile - you're gonna spend a lot more on this Porsche. Get a Porsche qualified mechanic. Your friend means well, but there is no way he is going to know everything he should know.
Yeah I'm all for LS swaps in most cases but this would just be weird and seriously people piss off with your "that would decrease it's value" people should buy cars to enjoy it or because they need it not as some stupid "investment" that's just going to be locked up in some garage
Nice buy! Must say that I envy your fleet! :) I think your description of why everybody overpays for a air cooled 911 is applicable to any old sports car. It's slower but more envolving. People like the 911 over the rest because of the heritage... the 911 racing resume is very impressive and the advertising and media that resulted from those 50 years of racing is very enduring in every petrolhead mind... ;)
I have had 3 aircooled , 76 911S Targa / 78 911SC Targa / 85 911 Carrera Conv, SORRY but I am done, they are the cutest BUT Buy an affordable 996 Carrera, same tiny feeling WAY more stable and comfort WAY faster and WAY more dependable, 996 will skyrocket in price when all childish aircooled nerds will calm down, I was one, but I had to give up NICE VideoThanks
It's the SMELL! It's true that the smell on air-cooled 911 is AMAZING. Nothing compares to them in the water-cooled world. (by the way what you're smelling is burnt oil that is perfuming the whole inside thanks to the ventilation/heater system - remember it's air cooled so the heating you get comes from pipes that run around the hot engine, hence the smell).
The rear engine weight "imbalance" (specifically f/r weight distribution) is precisely the attraction to those folks buying Porsche and the only reason to buy one. Tail-heavy cars love to be thrown hard into turns and then you get the joy of steering with the throttle with the tail hanging out.
Drew Burgoyne engine rebuilt cost will be no less because it’s air vs water cooled. The air cooled cars are notorious for oil leaks and consumption. My point is it’s not going to be $10k unless you get really lucky.
These were priced in a range I could afford way too early in my life. I saw a few of these around 30 grand when I started my job. This as my only car was never going to work and I regret not snatching one up. The character and shape is so neat.
Congratulations on your Sweet purchase! Great Enthusiasm for the learning curve... which you can only Feel! Road Course, Helmet, and Track Out will widen your Smile! You definitely have the Best Color! Thx for the video!
Love all 911s, but I'll stick to my 996. It cost less than this car and will outperform (speed, handling, mileage, etc.) it in every way. If you want a status symbol and are hung up on how your lights look, pay more; if you want a great sports car AND want a good value, get a 911 (and have the IMS fixed).
The 996 is the 911 from my childhood, the whole reason I fell in love with the 911 line (Sally in Cars the movie helped). You have a gem, the 996, The first water-cooled 911 and to me, the best looking, especially 01-04). You're spot on about the performance of your beauty, and I hope you enjoy many happy years with your Porsche. Cheers!
Hakeem Sd70M, thanks for the kind words. Like you, I love the 996. Mine’s just a 2001 C2, but there’s nothing about it I don’t love. Drives like a dream and looks like a million bucks...and for the money, it’s an incredible value. If you want one, and don’t have one, I hope you eventually get one-you won’t be sorry. 😉
I love these videos. I get far more satisfaction from watching you deal with these problems and spend money than I would myself. I used to want to own an older Porsche. I bought a multi family rental property for the same price as that car.
My ´83 SC is in even worse shape, but I fully get this, I love my car and it would take a lot to pry it out of my grasp. My wife named her Penny, and despite needing the synchro between first and second replaced (long wait for second), I still cannot drive this car and not smile. I removed the A//C compressor, heat exchanger, and the sound padding, and Penny sings to me whenever we leave the driveway. Her volume control is the peddle on the right. Awesome video, I’ll have to check out more of your vids.
I want to personally thank you for referencing 6 inches as “huge”.
Dan Latta 6 inch wenis is normal size thats what my momma said
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The secrets out
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My wife’s gotten 6 inches wider since the 80s
Me: Mom, can we watch Doug DeMuro?
Mom: No, we have Doug DeMuro at home.
Doug DeMuro at home:
Lmao
Aww, don't do Hoovie like that. I like Doug too, but they're different.
lmao
I'll take a Hoovie video over Doug any day of the week
I like Doug's videos, Its his voice I can't stand...
You don’t remember the screwdriver stabbing so maybe you don’t remember that you really are a serial killer. Just something to ponder.
Monte Stu probably because his dad beat him senseless for doing it and didnt remember anything after that haha
he is obviously a programmed assassin
If my kid stabbed holes in my brand new Porsche's seats, I would put the kid up for adoption.
How else would he get all these cars?
To me, these are the 911's that made the most impact on me as a kid. Whenever I piture a 911 in my mind, this is the body type that I picture.
same
Yes. Me too. 🍻
it’s a piece of shit. not rare, nor is it worth the price
Over the years, I owned six 911s. So while serving in Afghanistan in late 2010, I purchased my 3.2 over the phone right before the air-cooled market went up in price. Without seeing it in person, I paid $15k cash (no loan) for my 100% all original black/black 1987 3.2 coupe w/50k on it.
I had the car shipped to me from GA to TX without a PPI and when I finally got home in late 2011, I couldn't be any happier! I still have it.
FET Engineer
Congrats on a damned good purchase bro! Thanks for your service and drive the wheels off it like it was meant to! I’m in FW,TX and will keep my eyes open if ya motor by-
tim harper I’m in Houston tx do this cars have issues on extreme cold weather
Thank you for your service Sir.
You also bought the better 911. A little more power, and much better G50 transmission. I personally loved mine. I bought it in 2001 in absolutely mint condition and had a 97 M3 sedan with a 5-speed as a daily. The 87-89 was quicker than the 85s and the transmission was much better. Unfortunately I sold the the car in 2005 for an R32 GTR.
Everyone make sure to be in awww of this mans money. He made such a point to let us know he paid $15k cash without having to take out a loan. He is so much better than us poor people.
What's the Doug Score?
I drive a 2019 turbo S full option and made a vid about it on my channel it would be great if some of you guys could check it out. Thanks
@@MrReviewer If your reviews were more professional, more people would probably start watching them, but not like that. You have to be able to appeal to a larger group
@@wezilla21 thanks but i just do it as a hobby
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When I heard $38k, I thought, "Wow. Not bad." I'm a crazy person.
I had a chance to buy a 72 911 when I lived in Germany in 2001 for 12k. I argued with my wife (she wanted an 84 930 Turbo that was the same price and I didn't because it would kill her) and we yelled at each other and left. Soooooo mad that I didn't go back the next day and buy it. It was beautiful. Silver with a tan leather interior. Just basic but beautiful.
Slicey Dicey i thought the same until i heard : little over 100k . A lot of money
Yeah ok. That car would cost about $58k in Europe at the moment, where the true bubble is going on.
The stupidest thing is that the 3.2 engine in good shape with recent rebuild alone costs here about $30k USD. And if you want to rebuild a 2.7 - 3.2 engine, the parts alone will set you back about $10k, if you manage to use the existing cylinders, pistons, conrods and crank... if not, prepare your wallet. And then we could discuss how much 964 or 933 3.6 engine costs.
Air cooled Porsches are no longer cars for your average middle class enthusiasts.
That’s on the high side for this car
Massimo Fuß ‘74 through the 80’s are the cheapest of the 911’s. And early 70’s 911’s are also of the cheaper variants.
Here's Why Everyone Overpays for an Air-Cooled Porsche 911: The market sets the value.
Everyone is the market.
People like to buy high and sell low. It's all emotion based. That's why.
Emotion based from silver spoons
Yah but that makes for a very short video.
Or maybe because they're the coolest Porsches available.. just the engine sounds.. none is better.
Congratulations Hoovies, you've successfully fooled me for a second and mistook this as a video from Doug lol
Lmao he got my ass too
2 years apart and we have the same thing going on to us
Me too
another 2 years, right now it happened to me
I have a 1982 911SC. And I love it!!! Yes, it's not very fast, but when you're doing 65 mph, it sounds and feels like you're doing 80! I have driven modern 911's and a Cayenne Turbo, and they are amazing cars. But, I still enjoy my simple, under-powered 911 SC more!
Thank you for your vid! It's a hoot!
I remember when my dad first brought his black '78 911 SC home back in 1988. I was 5 years old and it was the most gorgeous thing I've ever laid my eyes on. We treated it like a family car; my two brothers and I all piled in the back and we took road trips in it (yes, there was seating for 5; my little brother had to sit in the middle on what I liked to call the "hump"). He eventually sold it to buy our house. Never knew what he got out of it, but man, those cars are special and I miss it to this day.
I love these cars but prices are just insane.
Prices don't have insanity... people that buy Porsche's do.
well the 993 turbos are around £230k in the UK
Well it's a good looking car , appreciated by a lot of people , I guess those who restore these are making money now .
Gearhead Daily porsche 912 are a bit cheaper and almost the same
1) they aren't cheaper than a impact bumper generation 911 2) they are nothing like a flat 6 powered 911.
WTF I THOUGHT THIS VIDEO WAS BY DOUG DEMURO
This is a great video and took me back to a time in '88 when I bought an '87 wide-bodied Carrera 3.2 full convertible, complete with whale-tail, in guards red, black leather with red piping. What a car !!!!!! With the top down and 4500rpms the sound was just beautiful.
Designed and built by engineers - NOT accountants !
The 911 is the epitome of a true sports car. Not the prettiest, fastest or even most reliable sports car. But it is an example of great engineering and passion. A timex is cheaper and more reliable than a submariner while performing the same task, but there is passion or craftsmanship. Same thing with all 911’s.
Well said
+Venturi Atlantique Most probably true. The car will for sure need some repairs to be done because of its age (as any other), but it could end up being more reliable than a 15 year old Porsche today.
+Venturi Atlantique Yep. German cars are among the most complicated ones to work on due to their engineering design and loaded with all kinds of crap (really interesting ones until they break down). Mechanical and electrical problems (engine, transmission, etc) are nightmares that many times the repairing costs are greater than the car's value.
As many enthusiasts and mechanics say: "They don't make them like they used to".
Kyle D could not have put it better myself. Plebs keep buying the crap imitations we’ll wear the “overpriced” rolexes and drive the air cooled 911s. Nothing sounds like an air cooled 911...nothing drives like one either - to the presenter of this lame video if you want value go buy a toyota
"A timex is cheaper and more reliable than a submariner while performing the same task..." Lol, I've said this pretty much verbatim before.
How you haven't filed for bankruptcy yet?
Russian Nuke TV show contract probably made him a few hundred grand
Plus he's got a solid job, and RUclips makes him a little bit.... Just a lil😂😂
Daddy is one of the main Freddy’s burger franchisees in the Midwest. Those ain’t cheap to open up, you got to have a serious net worth to be even considered as a franchisee so you know his dad was loaded before. Hoovie here is gonna take that all over so he is fine. In the mean time he “works” for his dad running his franchises and makes videos for RUclips while buying cars that lose him money most of the time. Must be nice
He's got a ton of businesses that bring in big $$$$ every day. He's loaded and probably put this car on a credit card for reward points.
Russian Nuke 😂
That US front bumper makes it look like one of those duck-face girls. Would still overpay though.
AutoAgitator it does lol
Got to do a euro conversion
I’d rather have impact bumpers than the god awful 993 headlights that look like it got shoved under a truck.
Would still overpay for what? The car or the duck-face girls?
Anyone know what I should Google to see the non duck face on it?
People always say the Hoovie and Doug Demuro are the same.
I disagree.
Doug DeMuro is great for finding the weird quirks and features of the coolest cars in the world.
And Hoovie is good to watch a man slowly go insane as he buys too many cars that all need repairs.
slowly???
I've owned several old VW bugs and have ridden in many old 911's. They all smell the same. It's awesome. Anytime I get in one it's nothing but huge waves of nostalgia.
38k? Wow you got a great deal. I see them in the 70K range and they run up crazy from there.
Same im waiting for them to come down in price to scoop one up
100k miles though
For the turbo though
I at first never really understood buying an old car that doesn't go near as fast as new cars until I rode in one of these. My uncle has a 1989 911 Carrera with the duck-tail spoiler and the front splitter (much like this one) and I just loved the experience, so easy to heel-toe downshift and the lightness and smallness is really fun on sharp corners, I really look forward to owning one someday.
yeah speed is not everything, just look at that ugly lambo on your profile picture
Driving experience is more important than raw stats and Porsche has always understood this. Sadly, consumer demands and regulations just don‘t care. It‘s hard to market something through advertising that you have to actually drive to „get“. It‘s a problem that has infested pretty much every rung in society and it has ruined a lot. Consumers buy spec sheets and now everything is worse.
38,000 is actually a pretty great deal for this combo. Great car👻👍
GHOSTJERKER
i paid 6200€ 2 years ago for similar 911. but i bought it from lithuania
e34Boat yeah but it's not this car
i think mine is alot better condition haha
Don't hurt your shoulder patting yourself on the back.
As somebody who came from the former Soviet Union - let me tell you this - I would never buy a car like this from any of the Soviet Union republics. A Lada - sure, but never a Porsche.
take it out for a track day, blow up the engine, and ls swap it
Of he did that he would definitely receive death threats from Porsche enthusiasts.
I was good right up to the BS LS swap. That would be him throwing away every cent he has spent on it.
Hes already done it with a 911 turbo hahahaha
Nope. Subie swap.
That Porsche engine will definitely blow up if you try to have any fun with it.
You nailed it. Nobody makes anything that pure now. You actually bought the right car. Much respect.
“This car isn’t that fast” I’ve had mine at 140mph... that’s fast to me
He should have used the term "Quick" instead of "Fast".
MacPro8CoreMan - _The Quick & The Querulous._
I spun one out at 147mph.
Apollo Morris holy shit so glad too see your not only in 1 piece but still alive!!
@@CTeves97 I only take that kind of risk where it is safe. No damage to the car.
But I got lots of story's too tell about the bad things I have done.
Who else thought this was a Doug DeMuro video?
Different Shades Of Mundane I did. Everything from the title to the thumbnail
Supercars Of Wichita No double tshirt was the giveaway.
Clickbait
Q · U · I · R · K · S A · N · D F · E · A · T · U · R · E · S
THIS... is not a Doug DeMuro video.
My retirement portfolio is comprised of 70% cabbage patch kids in the original boxes & 30% hot wheels prior to 1975. My accountant in the 80’s said my nest egg was valued at just over 2 million dollars. My current accountant says my portfolio is valued at just under 2 dollars,... who knew the Michael Bublé would burst?
Drew Robertson hahahahahahahaha
Ahahahahahahahahaha
Drew Sounds familiar! Thanks 2008! :-(
Buying a Porsche car is a very poor investment but that is not say that people should not buy such a car to have fun with.
bighands69.. I bought a '73 911, German Racing Silver, front S spoiler and Sport seats for $6000 in 1987. Should have kept it for what they are going for now. Plus, I got more girls than I did in my Pinto before it. Go figure.
Hoovies is the kind of guy who checks car condition by smelling it before buying it ;)
Souhail Ennaouli none of these are funny can you stop please
united artists no, why should i stop? If its not funny for you, its funny for others
Don't knock odor as a potential indicator of trouble. I test drove a used car that had obviously had its engine cleaned recently (also a warning sign) and during the drive faint odors of coolant and oil were detectable. I declined.
I recently picked up a 1995 993 and I just have to say I am absolutely in love with it. It is easily the most engaging car I have ever owned.
Before I bought it, I was looking at SC’s, then 3.2’s and when I finally decided it was gonna cost in the high $40’s to get what I wanted in terms of condition, I just decided to step up to the 993.
I’m so glad I did.
Embrace that 915 transaxle, it will make you a better driver.
On another note, the great increase in value of these, has turned my 82 SC daily driver, into a semi-daily driver, and made me pull my 67 911S off of the track, and am currently restoring it to a road car, again. It's cheaper and easier to race a Miata, especially when the $6000 car you bought 30 years ago, to go racing with, is now worth over $100,000. Absolutely blown away at the prices of the SWB cars, and all the air-cooled cars, for that matter. You can put all of the horsepower and technology into the new 911's, but it's nothing like driving the pure sports car that Butzi brought to us.
About the finest Porsche ever built. Before all the sensors and electronics came on board. You did good. 👍🏻
Meh, I owned a '74 for years. I'd rather have a 993.
So this is the reason you wanted to downsize =p
iLupi ditched a fleet of crappies for a good status car= good idea
Probably going through a divorce
I'd agree with Max tbh...not sure how you could ever love someone that barely speaks your language and doesn't seem to have anything in common with you...
Max The Monster he isn’t even married
When it comes to an air-cooled 911, when you find the one you want, money is no object. It will always be the epitome of a true sports car.
Very well said Sir!
Funny as this video is 3 1/2 years old the prices have continued to skyrocket. You can only find some basket case 911's for 38.000$ now. Crazy!
Wonderful video from a fellow 1986 911 Carrera Targa owner! You summed up the experience brilliantly! Thank you for your video!
$38k doesn’t seem so bad for one of the coolest Porsche’s ever... Love the look! Well done Tyler!
From the thumbnail I thought It was a Doug Demero video
milusther same
Sabe xddddd
milusther me too
This guy deliberately mimicks and makes fun of Doug
milusther *Doug DeMuro
The whale tail alone makes it worth it, your dad‘s turbo was really cool
Without doubt the most amusing car reviewer on RUclips. Watching that has given me the thought of buying another 911. Thanks a lot!
My favorite car of all time: 1988 Porsche 911 3.2L Coupe with whale tail and chin spoiler. But also with the G50 transmission. Black on Black. Some day it will be mine!
Great video! Drive and enjoy it. Keep up the regular maintenances, leave the vehicle as stock form possible, and you will never be regret in the many joyful years to come. This is definitely one of the many beautiful 3.2 Carreras!
Well this aged well, didn’t overpay in the end did ya haha
What's the DougScore?
Nail'd it!!!
Off the roof high
My Dad and I have the only air-cooled Porsche in our home country of Mozambique, an 82 Targa SC. Bought last year, the seller needed some cash quickly so we got a hell of a deal even though the car has over 200.000km on it, and was involved in a minor accident.
Wow, amazing oil cooled Porsche 911 my friend, it’s one of my dream cars since I fell in love with them during the 80s era in Miami. God willing, I’ll have one someday, but I’m just as happy seeing u enjoying one. Thanks for sharing the experience! God bless u, ur family and ur channel since u always put a smile on all of us 😇
I only wish Porsche's had a lot in common with VW's. They have very little, and are much more finicky than a classic bug could ever be.
If you want a bit of advice from a 2 Porsche(1969 912, 2004 911 Carrera) household. Drive the car, a lot. The 911's are some of the most reliable cars in the world. But if you don't drive the car, and maintain the car. It will be the biggest pain in the pocketbook, you could imagine. Guess what people do with them, drive them very little.
I'm more and more convinced my 69 912 is very much like a Herbie. If I let her sit for more than week she complains, loudly. If I express a concern in the presence of the car, I would swear the car does it's best to belay those concerns. It may sound very odd, but when talking to my fellow old German car owners. They agree with me(even my mechanic), they have similar experiences.
Of all the cars you have reviewed; This is my absolute favorite. Next is the E28 which I happen to own. I'm sad to say I hope the air cooled 911 is a bubble because I have always wanted to own this car. Tyler, You are great; I love both you and Doug. Please continue putting out great content. You guys are awesome and I can only wish to someday experience the hoopty fleet since you and I have a very similar interest in cars. Aside from your crazy Bentley and Rolls decisions which I feel are great for your channel, everything else I am in love with. Wish you the best of luck! Love you man, Keep it up!!! Let me know if you get sick of your red 911, I have been hunting for one since I was 17 when they were 11k
lol! Thanks, I think you single handedly broke my obsession with wanting an air cooled unit. Doesn't really matter, I will never be able to afford it anyway. Wish I had your sense of humor, and just a little money.....
I have an uncle in California who has a old 911 SC Targa from the 70's, and when I got to ride in it as a young teen I fell in love with it. Thanks.
Does it look good for him to give to you, realizing your love for it?
I,ve got a 1986 Cabriolet that I had built for me on my 40th birthday. It’s guards red with a new top and I had the motor rebuilt at 165,000 miles. It’s clutch was replaced at the same time. I have people wanting to buy this car all the time. My sentimental attachment and it’s great condition just keeps me from selling. I love this car and even though I have only put about 5000 miles on it in 10 years I won’t part with it.
Tonight Tyler shows us his Beanie Baby collection, talks about his childhood and smells the inside of a Porsche 911. Use Clarkson voice
Tyler the type of guy to put a sticker on his computer webcam to cover it
The Invincible V8 It’s a smart move. Based on the stupid shit we’ve seen him do, he probably does not.
The Invincible V8 Well if Marc 'the zucc' Zuckerberg does it, maybe so should we
I’m that type of guy, and I’ve got good reason too after the obama administration scandal accessing webcams.
tryna get that zucc boi
Should cover the mic on your phone and tablet too, since Google is always listening.
Definitely my dream car growing up! There was a Porsche Club at the end of my block late 70s early 80s
Americans really are spoiled.
If you cannot afford a lightweight sports car like a Porsche. You can easily find a muscle car get it modified and still have an amazing car. In europe none of that is possible. The only really option is Porsche.
You have to be a millionaire in Europe to own a V8 car and I am not exaggerating and I mean that literally.
bighands69 Yep totally true. We get absolutely screwed in the UK from every angle. Wages are less, prices are higher, standard of living less, houses are tiny and expensive, petrol costs are unreal.. US get access to V8s that are affordable, classic and plentiful 911s which only the most wealthy can afford in the UK. US spec Audi/BMW/Merc cars are loaded with options as standard that in the UK would cost £5-£7k. UK Govt told us to buy diesels, now have changed their mind so all diesel owners are being punished and forced off the road with emissions tax and new MOT which targets diesel emissions and made up environmental 'green' issues. . Non such bullshit in the US, some states dont even have inspections!
+James 1975
I am glad that I moved out of the UK. When New Labour came on the scene I just knew that the UK was finished. All the work done previous in the UK which actually would have allowed a more free market approach simply were destroyed.
The only reason I now visit the UK is see family but sometime down the line that may stop. It saddens me to think of what the UK could have been.
My father worked in the UK car industry that got destroyed by government interference. It was Tony Benn who destroyed the UK car industry along with the steel industry.
My grandfather had a late 60s 911 that he bought in the UK which was competitively priced back then and he also had an aston DB3 and they were both the most amazing cars I have ever seen.
If you are a young person I suggest getting out of the EU or UK. I suspect that the brexit U-turn has already begun.
I am glad you got out of the UK. I should have done the same years ago when New Labour came in, but decided to stay as I had already bought a house. Things have gone downhill massively, especially in the last 10-15 years. Have been hoping for a big turnaround at some point, but I don't think it is going to happen. I am sick of hearing about Brexit, its all I have heard for the last 2 years. It should never have been voted for in the first place and is now used a scapegoat for everything negative that happens, even if it is totally unrelated. Unfortunately I am now middle-aged (user name prob gives it away) being 43, so stuck with it. Would love to move to the States - business wise it seems so much more positive there and find the mindset more inspiring.. Its probably why I watch so much US content on RUclips!
Great video! By the way, you forgot to mention that your passenger seat is 'a' driver seat... aircooled 911=the car! Mine started as a birthday gift (a 2nd one!) of my newly met wife, than it became our wedding car and now 25+ yrs later we both still enjoy it and 'dragged it' from house to house, even emigrated with us.. no matter the worth, it's just our old banger!
OK So I just sorted out a '89 after a year in the garage and I've been driving it for break in. I think once sorted they are so excellent and I just can't believe how engaging the car is. Really like nothing else. The tern go kart is overused, but the rear engine, no weight up front, floor mounted pedals, and no power steering is just like a go kart. You feel the engine in the back and have to adapt your driving to the car, not the car to the driver. Extremely rewarding driving experience and because it's not too fast, you can hit redline in multiple gears and not go to jail. Mine is staying with me.
Health to drive.. and guards red and black is the best colour combination, love it 👍
Hey Hoovie, I'll give You an idea for next car Citroen 2CV , i can bet it will be more interesting than you would ever think. Trust me on this.
This isn’t a Doug video.
I’m telling my mom
If 2021 Hovie could talk to this Hovie, he would tell him that he got a deal.
Just watched this so I don’t know if Tyler will ever see my comment. I just bought what is arguably the cheapest running and driving ‘86 911 cabriolet. 238K miles . It’s my first 911 and I absolutely adore it. I totally get where you’re coming from. My first 15 minutes behind the wheel were embarrassing while I got better at shifting the 915 gearbox. I bonded with the car during the 5 hours it took driving it home from Green Bay WI. These are amazing cars and I can’t wait to get it out on some twisty roads with the top down. Cheers!
It's beautiful car, and it has that German character. You can't match that.
My v6 swapped mr2 cost a fraction compared and I enjoy it. $5000 + parts are reasonable. There might be nothing like a Porsche, but I'm happy with my car for weekend driving.
You can't match German character, but Japanese cars are fun in a different way. Pretty reliable too.
German character = break down a lot.
@@hunteraltman4762
Love my 1990 MR2 Turbo. 30yo engine but the only way you’d know it is by the spot on the ground where I park.
@@wholeNwon - yeah sure nowadays. But my first 'student' car for cheap was an early 80's Germany-built VW Jetta, really spartan features but the quality on that simple everyday car was undeniable. It even smelled awesome. I still miss that old era of quality German cars.
I'm not sure the value going up has to be considered "overpaying"... If I was made of money I'd have a huge Porsche collection, no matter the price. For now I'll stick to hoopties tho ;D
Except Hoovie buying one likely indicates the prices are about to drop. If his buying history is any indication.
Good point! :D
Chirpped tires on second... I get it!!
Awesome. I had an 87 and it was everything I hoped it would be. So much fun and quirky and mechanical. Perfect. Smells, sounds. Your love for that baby only grows.
I had a burgundy (Rubinrot) Cabriolet of this year. I had it for 5 years and sold it for almost same price that I had paid for it. This video reallly brought back great memories. I only did the clutch and alternator in the 5 years I owned it. So reliable. The alternator is behind the impellar wheel and I did the job myself. It took 3 days because I had the original alternator rebuilt. You will find on these cars that Porsche would have to switch suppliers of electronics during the production runs occasionally. So parts don't always match the factory workshop manual exactly. Sometimes, it is better to rebuild the original part. I was so impressed with the engineering and build quality and quite satisfied with myself when that engine lit on the first try after I did the alternator. A truly epic driving experience I will never forget.
9:02
Gotta find someone who sniffs you like hoovie sniffs his seats
I love the classic 911
quote, "I can't stop smiling!" Kinda like that feeling when that hot chick says yes when you ask her out......That's why!
I owned a 1979 Carrera 3.0 Targa and he is right by describing it as truly engaging an bringing an instant smile to your face. I bought mine 2nd hand in 1986 and it only had 52.000 kilometers on the clock and i payed 32.000 deutsch marks back then and i wan only 20 years old so YES i was a spoiled brat packer! The most fun car i ever had and yes it brought a smile to your face and there was never a dull moment. So much character.
Thanks Hoovie! Yeah. Very much like the 911 I had in college (but it blew up on me on the road.) I was tempted to buy another 911 a few years ago, but instead bought a perfect, low mileage RX7 convertible. Yeah yeah I know - the PCA would laugh and turn up their nose at it. Truth is: not only does the rotary engine run like a pup, and it never needs anything; the interior is ALL leather - and THE AC ALWAYS WORKS! I'd also put it up against any Porsche or Corvette of the same era. I put the money I saved (about $30,000) toward my Tesla Model 3 - which is faster than any of these cars. Smile - you're gonna spend a lot more on this Porsche. Get a Porsche qualified mechanic. Your friend means well, but there is no way he is going to know everything he should know.
Cool car, dude.
8:58 thought I was watching daddi Doug there for a second
Don't LS swap it!!!!!
Yeah I'm all for LS swaps in most cases but this would just be weird and seriously people piss off with your "that would decrease it's value" people should buy cars to enjoy it or because they need it not as some stupid "investment" that's just going to be locked up in some garage
$38,000 for that car in 2022 would be a freaking steal...
More like armed robbery
Nice buy! Must say that I envy your fleet! :) I think your description of why everybody overpays for a air cooled 911 is applicable to any old sports car. It's slower but more envolving. People like the 911 over the rest because of the heritage... the 911 racing resume is very impressive and the advertising and media that resulted from those 50 years of racing is very enduring in every petrolhead mind... ;)
I've been watching a lot of your videos lately, and with this one I've come to a realization; at times you sound a lot like Jeff Goldblum.
Willing to bet Goldblum shifts up at 2500 rpm and then complains about no power. lol
I would like to own that car...when you decide to sell it for 8k just email me.
I have had 3 aircooled , 76 911S Targa / 78 911SC Targa / 85 911 Carrera Conv, SORRY but I am done, they are the cutest BUT Buy an affordable 996 Carrera, same tiny feeling WAY more stable and comfort WAY faster and WAY more dependable, 996 will skyrocket in price when all childish aircooled nerds will calm down, I was one, but I had to give up NICE VideoThanks
It's the SMELL! It's true that the smell on air-cooled 911 is AMAZING. Nothing compares to them in the water-cooled world. (by the way what you're smelling is burnt oil that is perfuming the whole inside thanks to the ventilation/heater system - remember it's air cooled so the heating you get comes from pipes that run around the hot engine, hence the smell).
The rear engine weight "imbalance" (specifically f/r weight distribution) is precisely the attraction to those folks buying Porsche and the only reason to buy one. Tail-heavy cars love to be thrown hard into turns and then you get the joy of steering with the throttle with the tail hanging out.
An engine rebuild is $20-$40k, not $10k. That's the big problem with buying one of these, you are really rolling the dice...
Fluterra maybe a high performance rebuild, but 10k is pretty accurate
Drew Burgoyne my neighbor’s 997 was burning oil. He’s spent $30k and it’s still not fixed.
Fluterra sorry, I’m referring to an air cooled car pre 89 which is what he has
Fluterra a 997 and air-cooled aren’t really comparably
Drew Burgoyne engine rebuilt cost will be no less because it’s air vs water cooled. The air cooled cars are notorious for oil leaks and consumption. My point is it’s not going to be $10k unless you get really lucky.
Tyler I think you need to join a 12 step program.
I actually like the vinyl smell of the old vw bugs.
These were priced in a range I could afford way too early in my life. I saw a few of these around 30 grand when I started my job. This as my only car was never going to work and I regret not snatching one up. The character and shape is so neat.
I love your unique way of talking and describing cars very enjoyable
The front end looks like it's scared shitless
😂😂😂 Great sense of humor, and a good explanation of why so many of us would kill for one. By the way, where do you live? 😈
Fudgeman
Congratulations on your Sweet purchase! Great Enthusiasm for the learning curve... which you can only Feel! Road Course, Helmet, and Track Out will widen your Smile! You definitely have the Best Color! Thx for the video!
Thanks for the video. I had a 2001, currently an 05. I always wanted an 85, and will now live vicariously by the video. 🤣
Love all 911s, but I'll stick to my 996. It cost less than this car and will outperform (speed, handling, mileage, etc.) it in every way. If you want a status symbol and are hung up on how your lights look, pay more; if you want a great sports car AND want a good value, get a 911 (and have the IMS fixed).
The 996 is the 911 from my childhood, the whole reason I fell in love with the 911 line (Sally in Cars the movie helped). You have a gem, the 996, The first water-cooled 911 and to me, the best looking, especially 01-04). You're spot on about the performance of your beauty, and I hope you enjoy many happy years with your Porsche. Cheers!
Hakeem Sd70M, thanks for the kind words. Like you, I love the 996. Mine’s just a 2001 C2, but there’s nothing about it I don’t love. Drives like a dream and looks like a million bucks...and for the money, it’s an incredible value. If you want one, and don’t have one, I hope you eventually get one-you won’t be sorry. 😉
Change "Including Me" to "Especially Me", and you'll be totally accurate.
Do you have a sugar Daddy or something?
I can't say, but his doug score is 69
Taelor Watson Zing!!
I love the fragrance of a 80s 911. every time I get in its a pleasure. such an amazing and unique driving experience. nothing like it.
I just got one and this video made me feel better about myself. Thank you!! It is a quirky car and I love it, even thought I don't understand it.
I love these videos. I get far more satisfaction from watching you deal with these problems and spend money than I would myself. I used to want to own an older Porsche.
I bought a multi family rental property for the same price as that car.
That rear bumper is just horrendous
well, its worth overpaying for that car.
not really
If someone wants an aircooled 911 they better get one as soon as they can because there is no reason why the prices wouldn't keep rising.
Keksi the Labrador as the people who remember what they were like to drive get older, eventually the prices may drop
Prices would go down if people stopped buying them at this price. Stop it cause I want one.
My ´83 SC is in even worse shape, but I fully get this, I love my car and it would take a lot to pry it out of my grasp. My wife named her Penny, and despite needing the synchro between first and second replaced (long wait for second), I still cannot drive this car and not smile. I removed the A//C compressor, heat exchanger, and the sound padding, and Penny sings to me whenever we leave the driveway. Her volume control is the peddle on the right. Awesome video, I’ll have to check out more of your vids.
Bought my 1st 911, Delivery expected this week!!