Thank you for the incredible response! Not only has this outperformed (like for like in its first 24h online with my other uploads) my next best piece of content by 10x but the kindness and enthusiasm in the comments has been superb. I was a bit nervous about potentially poking the Porsche bear and its cubs but thrilled that it's been the warmest welcome yet. If you have a car you'd like to see on the channel then please let me know - petrolpoodle@gmail.com or find me on Instagram @petrolpoodle
@13:41 100%. I personally find it disrespectful (great word choice btw) too. Further the vehicles owner could do a portion in a video where they throw it around a bit if that serves a greater purpose. Otherwise, this video, your style, all perfect to inform us. *Hype Check*, That is what we are after in this video
I've a 997.1 the last pure flat 6 with out any intermediate assistance like fuel injection etc.. I am intending getting to my kubla khan which would be a 2019 Carrera T but after watching this I'm now thinking 1982 911 SC!! The joy of Porsche!! "Which one??? please tell me god, which one??"
I purchased my first 911 about a month ago. It’s a 79 911SC Coupe. I literally have wanted one since I was 15 or so, I am now 57. Wow…what a fantastic driving experience.
i'm like you I have a 1977 911s in Grand Prix white and the best thing is going in my garage shutting the door and putting on the radio and listening to 60's and 70's music in the shed and spending quality hours on working on the car!..just me and my Porsche! It is nice though sometimes the lady will appear and ask what I'm up too!...God bless
Brilliant. And I don’t disagree. However, you will get a 996 or a 997. I guarantee it. And after a ‘while’ you will long for this experience and regret having not just gotten the air cooled first. And then you will find the resources, come up with the cash, and buy one at whatever price the market commands. Because we all do. We all start rationally and practically and responsibly. Then you get older and reassess and weigh time versus money and what you sincerely value most. I cannot wait for you to get here with the rest of us fools who have ‘spent too much’ as most would say, for one of these. Great review, glad you did it.
I started with a 914 in '79 at the young age of 16 and then bought a 73.5 Targa in the early 90s and still regret selling it in '04. Having been through a 996(a poor replacement for the 73.5) and now with a completely refreshed 997.1 I prefer this over all of the previous 911s I've owned as it meshes the new with the old, BUT nothing will replace the raw nature, smells and feel of an early 911. SHHH, don't tell my wife I'm looking for another early long hood 911 as she thinks 4 in the garage is enough for now...
I had a 1986 Carrera. I've had a 997 and a 996. Still got the 996. I agree that air cooled are nice but not nice enough for the money. I would get a GT3 any day before another air cooled.
I've owned a 1985 911 Targa Carrera for 39 years now and have put over 285,000 miles on it. You are quite right in your review observation.... the car is meant to be driven and it has been the most reliable vehicle I have ever owned. Other than standard maintenance over the years, I have had one transmission rebuild and a valve job. Other than that, I get in it, start it up and 39 years later at the ripe young age of 71, I still smile when I'm behind the wheel and feel like I did the first day I bought it. The 911 is one of those cars that is a rare piece of automotive engineering art and those fortunate enough to experience them in their lives find that they melt into your soul and become part of you.
My '85 has 152k miles on it, 53k of which I've put on it over the 28 years I've owned it. It's needed rear shocks, brakes, 1 module for the fuel injection, which was $147 from a dealer in around 2002, and an alternator. Trust me when I say that replacing the alternator on a 3.2 Carrera is a colossal pain in the ass for a DIY mechanic. The AC was never really very good, but the heater would set your shirt on fire. The brakes are fantastic, and the steering makes a mockery of every other car I've driven. I'm 6'1" and it fits me perfectly. It's not "quaint" like an MGB or Fiat 124. It's very analog, but properly quick. An old 911 does not suffer ham fisted fools, but you don't have to be going 200mph to be rewarded by it either. I grew up watching 911 derived race cars racking up race wins, and not 911s not breaking on people who actually drove them. Two favorite stories about the car - I had taken my then 9 year old daughter to Blockbuster to get some movies (Yes, it was back in ye olden times.) and as we were leaving, an older gentleman pulled into the parking spot next to us. My daughter has long, very straight, light red hair and tends to stand out a bit. She was used to people commenting on her hair from a young age. However, when the man told her that she was a lucky little girl to be "riding around in that car" she was at a loss. As we drove off, she asked what he was talking about. She was completely oblivious, as she was just riding in dad's car. A few years before he passed, my grandfather came for a visit. He had bought a '62 356 new, but sold it probably 30 year prior. I insisted that we go for a spin in my car. When we got back home, he had a faint smile on hi face, and said, "There's just something about that sound coming from behind you that you never forget."
I had various 911SCs for about 7 years in the 2000s. I couldn't believe how reliable they were.I dailied them every day,..rain or shine. Loved owning them. The engine note was to die for...if ever there was a usable classic.. It's an SC
I own a 996 myself. And I'm the first one to admit that air cooled Porsches look a million times better. Especially the 993, which is my favorite. But they're so crazy expensive that no ordinary car enthusiasts can afford them anymore. And because they made 964 and 993 only about 65 thousand of each and half of them cabrios/targas/automatics, the manual coupes will be appreciated even more in the future. They made over 1.5 times more of 996's alone than 964 and 993 COMBINED. They also made 212,964 units of 997. That's also why 996 and 997 prices are lower. But as you said 996 is definitely the best value for money Porsche. Still drives like an analog, small 911 and has just a bit more power and performance.
Wooooow, I did not realise the difference in production numbers that you just highlighted there! Jeeees! Congrats on the 996 by the way, I can safely say I finally get it and I'm envious!
"I don't know where the F@$# I am going BTW." That pretty much sums up the experience of driving an air cooled Porsche. You get so engaged and enthralled, you look up and you're just way out somewhere or you take the long way home, simply enjoying driving again.
I have to say, I've seen the light! I just wish they were value-wise on an equal playing field like they used to be! Great news for the long-term owners who've put in the love to keep theirs in top condition though eh!
Fair point. I have a 997.1 and at 80 mph, anywhere, it's the sweet spot. Feels AMAZING. Slow speed is great too, but gearing is such that moderate speed is the catalyst for the car. IMO
Yes, it takes a long time to figure out it's all about feel and rawness and being able to use all of the revs at sane speeds. When you're young you don't know that this is the good stuff. On the road.
@@petrolpoodle I have the same philosophy with my motorcycles now. I don't want to idle all over town on a 1000 in first gear basically, barely tapping it, then tapping it, losing my license and freedom. Light weight, handling, sound, feel, those are my metrics.
I ordered my ‘81 911 SC from the Porsche+Audi dealer in my town in 1981. I’m still driving it today. Every time I drive a “modern” Porsche, I’m disappointed. The sound, the size, the visceral feeling I get from driving my car is, to me, superior in every way. Yes, it demands my attention. That’s part of what’s great about it. I will never sell it.
I had a 82 911sc I bought when I was 22 for just under 17k. I loved it despite it being a time capsule in 2006. It was everything I thought a classic Porsche would be and I regret ever selling it.
Oh mate it's better to have loved and lost... But really though, we all do it! Amazing that you had the privilege of owning something that now most people can't find the money for at all :)
I own a 996, but fell in love with the 911 in 1977 when I was 12 years old and have wanted one since. The 996 is the 911 that I could afford and I absolutely LOVE my car. But a G body is my ultimate dream car.
Great video. I agree with your assessments of the steering and other aspects of this model. I've got 217k miles on my SC and I've owned it 40 years. I also have a 993 C4S and a 996 Turbo S. Prices on SC's went through a period where prices were flat 10-15 years but they have never dropped after they initially bottomed out in the mid 80's. . If you find the perfect air cooled car for you, and your budget agrees, I would get it. For every 911 I've bought there has been no shortage of people telling me they were over priced at that time. I could have bought a new Datsun for what I paid for my used SC in 1984 and i had many that reminded me of that. The SC is just special; from the faint smell of oil and hot metal to the sound when the door closes. Just my opinion.
I love that - 'For every 911 I've bought there are no shortage of people telling me they were overpriced at that time'. That's so true isn't it actually, people say that still about 997s today, and they're not particularly inflated! Also, what a garage you have! That's remarkable!
Great, straight, honest analysis. I have owned my 1979 911SC since 1980. I cannot part with it. As you say, driving it is a more raw experience, but that is the charm.
I bought my first 911 SC at age 25 from an ex racing driver by the name of Nick Faure. I owned her for about 3 years thereafter but ended up selling her for a Mangusta. Not long after that, as much as I enjoyed the Mangusta, I had to have a 911 again. It took me a while to find the right car but I have owned 911's ever since and other than adding different cars to the stable I have not been without an air-cooled 911 and I'm now 57. They are an addiction.
I think these cars have become attractive because they can be nearly fully self-supported in the owner's garage and have excellent parts availability. Many spare parts for competing exotics of this age are completely NLA and newer used examples aren't easily supported by the owner due to complexity. And while not a rare car by any means, Porsche 911 production in these years was just a small fraction of competitors like the Corvette.
Purchased a 76 911 Targa in 1990 with 50K miles for $11,000. Guards Red 2.7 liter w/ cookie cutter rims. The car felt like it was carved out of a piece of billet aluminum. I was 24 and remember thinking, “there’s no way I should be driving something this nice”. I put another 50K miles on her with typical Porsche upgrades & maintenance. Oil tubes, Carrera cam chain tensioner upgrade. Purchasing oil by the case, etc. Never broke down, always started, even after sitting for months when I was abroad. Easily the most well made iconic car I’ve ever owned. Now I’m about to turn 58 and would love to find another one to drive weekly. Bravo on your thoughts & review!
Totally agree with your observation that the sensation of speed is what matters, and that cars with this sort of power to weight ratio give you as much power as you realistically need for normal driving.
Completely! I've been in very powerful S class equivalents that simply hide the fact they're going stupidly fast! I love that this feels a million times quicker than it is!
I used to drive a 1983 Alfa Romeo GTV 6 and this is exactly the feeling I had. Every gear shift I felt as if I was reconnecting the car to the road. Every time I gave it throttle coming out of a corner I could feel the weight shift, the car dig in, and shoot out on the other side. I have never been able to replicate that experience.
I know exactly what you mean. I have a 1979 Alfetta GTV running a later twin spark engine with an LSD transaxle V6 brakes and fast road suspension. It handles fantastically well and is as quick as the slower 911's on the track, but still a great touring car for everyday use. Steering is pin sharp. Here in Australia the only thing that lets it down for everyday use in summer is lousy air conditioning. Had to laugh at that video about what the pommies think is a fun road to drive on. Here In Melbourne, Victoria Australia we spoilt for great roads an hour or so out of the city. An early morning mid-week drive, it's as much fun as you can have with your pants on. All at a fraction of the cost of an air cooled 911.
I have owned a 1976 911s Targa for 32 years. It has the original engine and trans. 194,000 miles. We keep improving it with little things and maintain it. You will need to replace the fuel lines because of the gasoline and their age. A link will mean an instant fire. All parts are readily available. Enjoy tje ride
200K is not that big of a deal. When you rebuild a motor you can replace the jugs. This mean rebuilds are almost unlimited. Corrosion control was not as good of the 74-77 models as they started after 1978. I owned a ‘75 targa and it was a disaster. Magnesium valve covers were notorious for leaking oil. Oil cooler wanted to leak. I believe it was K-jettronic like on my Scirocco, which makes it only OK as far as fuel injection is concerned. Ultimately either because of oil drips or fuel leak the engine caught fire. If you want durability with excessive mechanic bills buy a 1970s-80s Mercedes diesel. I had an 82 Maxima diesel that went 300k on the way to 500K before I sold it. Porsche parts are expensive and it rode like a little go cart. Now I have a 75 914 and being sacrilegious to Porschafiles I like it better than the 911
I got a 997.1 as my first Porsche and loved it as a Daily driver 8 years ago. Then went air-cooled with a 1985 Carrera 3 years ago. I couldn't imagine daily the air cooled, but as a Sunday / occasional car it's in another league for feeling special. Go 996 or 997 for a daily though.
I have had a 1980 SC for 10 years and I’ve put about 40k miles on it. It’s a pleasure to own. I drive it as often as possible. The sensation of speed keeps you out of trouble vs modern sports cars. I don’t know what you’d do with a 500hp McLaren, but revving out an old 911 makes you feel like you are absolutely flying, but not going much over the speed limit.
I had a 78 911SC that I used as a daily driver summer/winter in Alberta. It had 200,000 km when I got it and 300,000 km when I sold it. It is the minimalist essence of a sports car. You won't want to use it as a daily driver today, but when you're in it you'll never mistake it for your Lexus daily driver. If you can, get the L Jetronic version (or newer) as that system is very reliable.
We had a E30 BMW 325. That too had no power steering - and the electronics for the straight-6 are just enough to make it better, but not enough to be troublesome. But it did not need power steering - for anything other than parking, it was correctly weighted, and precise, and fun. And that engine - the BMW small-6 has that sound. However, tinworm ate the rear body, and we had to lose it.
I hit the love button before reading about the tinworm, which broke my heart! And man what a wonderful car though, have you ever been tempted to get another?
Great video. Happy to lend you my 997 C2 manual which I won on Classic giveaways last year if you like for a review. Love the idea of aircooled but so happy with mine too for daily driving and still feel like the luckiest person around. Welcome to the addictive world of Porsche.
Thank you so much, this has absolutely made my day! I specifically wanted to pin a comment saying 'Can anyone with a manual 997, ideally C2 or 4 please let me review it!?' and thought... don't shut down other models, but it's what I want! Hallelujah! hahaha That would be incredible, could you pop me a message on Instagram (petrolpoodle) or pop me an email to petrolpoodle@gmail.com? I'd seriously love to organise this!
Hey Spookybus! I'm super keen to shoot this 997 review if you're still up for it :) If you want to pop me an email to petrolpoodle@gmail.com or petrolpoodle on Instagram I'd be delighted to organise it!
We have an '88 with about 140k miles and love it for all the reasons you so beautifully articulated. Super fun to drive at all times. Reasonably reliable, so I have driven it halfway across the USA several times. But usable, a little worn, and not hidden away in a garage.
I wanted a 911 since I first got my licence in mid 1970s, and my aim to buy a 911 was the driving force for me to get into defense manufacturing in the 1990s. Three years after commencing Defense manufacturing I bought a red 911SC coupe with chin spoiler, tray spoiler, and black interior, electric sunroof, with cash in the bank. I owned my 911 for 5 years til selling it in 2005 to reinvest the money back into my business. In the five tears I owned my 911SC, I had two expenses out side normal servicing expenses, total spent, $300 for replace fuel pump and to service starter motor solenoid switch. I loved every minute of driving my 911SC. lovely to drive, gear change was simply a matter of experience with it, once I had owned it for 2-3 months, did not need to think about changing gears and when to change. Driving 911 through twisties, mean, brake before turning into corner and keep the accelerator slightly depressed. I absolutely loved the unique futuristic whirring sound of the flat six 911 motor. Loved how the engine sprang into life the instant the starter was engaged!. 911SC goes through corners and roundabouts like you would'nt believe! Braking was impressive too! Loved accelerating through round abouts sometimes getting rev hears think they could keep up with me. Ha! one spun out on exit of the roundabout. the other almost did but managed to straighten up. At the next traffic lights we were side by side, I lowered the pasenger window and said to the driver - good save! they smiled sheepishly. While i owned my 911SC, another 1982 930 came up for sale which i took for a test drive - the acceleration was indescribable compared to non turbo model, seemed to me it went faster than I could depress my right foot! I really do miss my 911. Love rear engineed cars, and as lament the passing of aircooled rear engined cars. That's my two cents worth!
I feel like your production quality is on point. It does not have that highend super edited 'tv' feel, but also not a low quality homemade feel. It is somewhere cozy in between. I really like it.
That is a truly delightful comment, I really appreciate it! Funnily enough my latest video (986 Boxster) was a workflow experiment to see if shooting in 1080 with a pre-baked colour profile (compared to manual grading like I normally do) would save me masses of time. Glad I did the experiment but all other videos from that one forward have been shot in quality to match this standard hahaha just in case you see a new one and go oh...!
I own both early ie air cooled 911's and a 996 Made multiple cross country trips with my air cooled 911's, the now I only drive the 996 or my 928 GT on long distance trips
Very nice Video. I have a 911S from 1976 and I really had to learn that you can and should drive the car as you just bought it new. Mine has done 150.000 miles with first engine and is happy all day. I invest my money in servicing it and maintaining it well. No plans for mature changes. Drive it carefully up to temp. and then use the rpm range.
Interesting review. I'm fortunate to own a 1983 911 SC which I have owned for 24 years. Coincidentally, I drove it yesterday for the first time since Covid, when it was laid up during the first lockdown and subsequent life got in the way. A gap of that duration has made me revisit the car with fresh eyes, and I've got to say I'd forgotten how involving it is to drive, and actually still feels quick and nimble on the road. I'm looking forward to getting some miles in and re-learning how to get the best from it. I started recommissioning a couple of months ago and have replaced all of the brake discs, callipers and hoses, changed all of the fluids, plugs and filters and can confirm they are a realistic DIY proposition to work on. Parts are reasonably priced with plenty of availability from different vendors. The car has also inadvertently become a good investment as it is apparently worth several times what I bought it for! I am also a long-term owner of a 997.2 and still see these as the sweet spot for "modern" 911 ownership with them still being a "small" car with an analogue feel, but with many of the potentially (perhaps sometimes over exaggerated) but nevertheless financially scary aspects of earlier models (IMS/Bore scoring etc) addressed.
Sorry for getting to this comment so late, there's been a million comments and this slipped the net! Absolutely love this, so glad to hear it's getting the love it deserves and you're enjoying it so much. By the way, I've been trying hard to review a 997 on the channel, so if you are UK based and would like to see it on the channel, please do let me know at petrolpoodle@gmail.com!
I owned a 2003 Boxster S for a while, and probably was the best driving car I ever owned. But, kind of cost prohibitive when things go wrong, for middle class person… so, sold it for a profit and bought a C3 Corvette. Not saying it’s better but it fits me better, and sure is cheaper to drive and maintain. Has similar vibes but way more unrefined.
I think you made a wise choice and a C3 Corvette has still got to be a lot of fun! These cars are ultimately there to substitute driving sensible choices 24/7 and the C3 is no doubt a riot!
Really liked your upload. I own one, '82 with a 930 engine, was given as a birthday present in '96 at my third date, now my wife 30+ years, needed a giant restoration(unplanned), but became our wedding car. It's my 2nd classic, as I constantly swap between another 'bike on 4 wheels, my '34 MG PB. I really love your analog experience, as it fully describes as why many of us like these cars. Also I question the high price. When we got it, the CEO of Porsche wanted to end the 911 program and our car was seen as the tame and most boring P to buy. I knew nothing of P, only enjoying/tinkering prewar classic bikes, but as a design engineer fell in love with the whole brand P, later the same happened, when reading about MG. Everytime my wife drives it, nomatter what angle I look, I still get warm feelings for what is driving there 'both'. I bet, after several years you will swap or add to your 996, an 911 air cooled one. As they become a glove or shoe, the more you wear it, the less keen or ever you want to part from it. From another petrol head. Thanks for sharing!
One of the good memories I have of my aircooled 911 (1971 911E with "S" suspension and 175 HP and approximately 2250 lbs.) is that in a medium-to-tight turn, while all four tires were making a bit of noise, there was a point when I'd start feeding the throttle, that the inside front tire would go quiet.
It's pretty rare to watch a video on an air cooled Porsche where the presenter is usually either Porsche biased, or a hater that shoots them down after listening to all the usual BS associated with old Porsches when they haven't driven one. As an owner of a '78 (albeit backdated by myself), I'm glad you got to drive one and now realise why owners love them, as once you understand what these cars are all about, you'll always have that little voice in the back of your mind wondering how you can own one! Nice one mate 👍
I can tell you what other car from 1985 you can absolutely thrash everyday. An AW11 MR2! The 996 turned me on to Porsches, and I still own both. Great review!
YES!!! at around 12:30 you really hit it. That little giggle int he wheel that reminds you that you are in fact in contact with the road. I can tell you that this is still the case in the 996.
Awesome review of the Porsche 911 SC ... it is definitely refreshing to view content which is not only honest but also includes a good balance of historical context, technical features, and driving impressions 🤓! As a longtime Porsche fan-atic, I probably am somewhat biased at this point having owned several different examples (both based on rear and mid-engine layouts). Within the rear-engine lineup, a few other models worthy of mentioning would be a 911 Carrera 3.2 and 993 series. However, in truth, each iteration has something unique to offer the sports car enthusiast! Again, thanks for a fun video and cheers from Colorado!
Thanks so much, Daniel, I hugely appreciate it! Genuinely do. I'm very excited to be reviewing a 993, a 996 and hopefully a 997 soon! It'd be a dream to get them all done together in a day but that's probably logistically not possible. But I'm now properly excited to explore, as you put it nicely, what each cars unique traits are.
Great video - thanks. I really related to it, because I bought a G-series 911 last year and am in the process of falling madly, deeply in love with it. And that's despite its imperfections. As you said, there is so much scope to build on the excellent fundamentals of these cars to make them exactly how the owner wants them, and add value in the process (if the work is done really well.) That's what I plan to do to my car. Incidentally, it's a 1977 LHD ex-German car, originally a 2.7, but with a 180bhp SC engine fitted in 1998. I've owned a 996 (a C4S) and adored it. I've been fortunate to own a series of incredible performance cars over the years. But my 1977 car creates smiles and satisfaction on every drive, and that's worth a fortune to me.
Great video! I have a massive soft spot for G series 911s. I recently sold mine (Carrera 3.2) after 16 years of ownership because I wanted a change. I'm now in an MX5 and loving that it excels in different ways to the 911. I will always miss the unique feel and sound of the 911, when you gun it out of a tight bend, feeling the sublime steering, the rear squats and engine howls and she just goes!
7:12. Back in the mid 1980’s my dad had a euro spec 911SC (we’re in the states). Some of my best memories with my dad were going on a long on-ramp and hitting 60 in second gear. Thanks for taking me back to the good old days.
Very well done. I did what you saw as your conclusion - purchased a 996 C4 last year. I admit, I was trying to get into the 911 world with minimal investment, but also get into a car I could drive daily for nine or ten months of the year. I sold a late 60s Corvette to finance my 911 purchase, and I am very happy with that decision. I love driving it, and look for every excuse to do so. At the time, I was motivated by missing out on the purchase of a 1987 Guards Red coupe from a family friend who had owned it since the early 90s. But in the end, I got a 131,000 mile car that is now a rolling project. I’m making further investments in it, and there is no way I could recoup that money now after a year, but to me it doesn’t matter. It’s already much better than it was when I bought it, and want to drive this car to well over 200,000 miles, and I think that’s very possible. Cheers.
I like your videos, thanks for sharing this. I would encourage you to drive a late Carrera 3.2. If we are talking about the last of g bodies with simplicity - torsion bar suspension and manual steering the 3.2 is the really the car to drive. There's no downside to a 3.2 over a SC (also a great car!). But the 87-88 3.2 has improved AC, a fan on the oil cooler, makes more power (217US and 230 row), and has modern but simple electronic fuel injection. Yes, you can keep the CIS going in a SC, but its fiddly and you have to deal with the plastic airbox on the SC, something that is a non issue on the 3.2 cars. Anyway they are all great, but if we are talking about the last of the classic G bodies the late 3.2 (with a 930 steering tie rod upgrade) is the car to drive.
Nothing else ticks more boxes than an aircooled 911. Most of the owners I know have owned their cars for well over 10 years, myself included with 18 years with the same car and over 80k miles, although the car now has 160k and has never been apart. Porsche, there is no substitute!
Excellent video, the best first time air cooled evaluation I've seen. Too bad you didn't have the opportunity to push it on track or mountain road. Very informative anyway, good work!
Thank you, that's very high praise and I'm honoured! I would love to have been able to explore its dynamic capabilities on a perfect road, to really discover that next level of magic. One day perhaps that opportunity will come but man, just so lucky to have been able to drive one at all!
Having wanted an air cooled 911 since I was a kid I started searching a couple years ago and stumbled onto a beautiful 89 911 3.2. Marine blue with linen interior. Put deposit down sight unseen. Price was under market value for 2021. PPI was great so signed the purchase agreement. Flew out to Ohio and drove it back to Pennsylvania. The last hour and a half was all back roads. By far my best car experience ever. Will never let this car go.
What a wonderful road test! So refreshing to have a Porsche reviewed by someone who isn't an already-devoted fanboy (although I suspect you are going to become one!). This style of reporting is so relaxing and easy to digest, it's an absolute breath of fresh air and has made me an instant subscriber. Thank you for your excellent work 👍
Thank you so much, this is honestly one of my favourite comments I've read in months! I cut my talking segments down from roughly 30 mins per video to usually 18 to 22 mins in general and after watching myself natter for literally 8 hours of editing, I often think I go on and on for far too long. So I appreciate your superbly kind words! The great news is I've got a LOT of exciting cars lined up and this video in particular has given me the boost of excitement to give this a full go and throw everything I have at it! Thank you again and I look forward to seeing your name on a future video hopefully :D
I own a 1976 911s with a bigger engine but still the 915 gearbox, I think you got the review spot on how rewarding these cars are to drive 996 just hasn't got the same feel. When you drive one of the older cars they are more of a challenge to drive well. I think they are still undervalued a ferrari of this age would cost more to buy and would cost more to keep on the road.
Great review! And interesting and honest conclusion. I decided between my dream car 993 and a 996. Ended up with a 996 3.6 C2 manual and put some money I saved on not buying the 993 on Ohlins coilovers, which made the 996 totally amazing. Needless to say what the 993 stands for for me but I had to realize the 996 ate it for breakfast from a drivers point and dynamically speaking, so that was my choice. The 997 felt too modern so, for me, the 996 is the perfect blend between analouge and modern sportscar. Either way, glad that older 911 is finding its crowd and as an antidote to highly competent but rather dull modern sportscars.
I think what your video conveys so well is what a special feeling it is to drive these cars. Prices seem very high and aren't coming down where other classics are getting cheaper. One thing I think that may be a factor in prices staying this high apart from all the great things you mention in the video is the fact that Porsche still supports these models through their Classic program and are producing parts that are specific to these cars and might otherwise not be available anymore. For instance Porsche started to produce the Targa roof for the G-model cars again apart from many other parts. The other reason, obviously, is the fact that so many of us like to own, or do own a older Porsche. See all the reactions on this video; either owners are holding on to theirs and prospective owners are waiting in the wings to get their hands on one. A 911 is a beautiful thing to look at and there is a lot of value in enjoying a drive in an older 911. Can't do that in a Bitcoin 🙂
I'm 58 and the 911 was one of the quintessential sports cars in the 80's so for me air cooled represents tons of nostalgia. Also having seen the 1987 movie No Man's land made me want one even more though historically I was more of a 928 guy since the 90's and have owned three but in 2014 I suddenly became infatuated with classic air cooled 911's but the prices kept me from buying until I gave in last December on a grand prix white 1982 911 SC and I cannot stop looking at the car. It's truly an icon. I owned a 99 996 for eight years prior but it never hit the spot that this air cooled car does for me.
Excuse my copy and paste reply below but as I just touched on nostalgia, I'll say that I totally get it myself! I realised I forgot to mention that obviously the nostalgia is such an important and understandable part of that value. I grew up in the 1990's and early 00's, and for me, my dad owning a '99 Impreza WRX STI 'rally car for the road' and that general era of Impreza vs Evo etc just fills me with a ridiculous amount of nostalgia. I would now be one of those people spending farrrrrr too much for an immaculate 90's Impreza when not long ago they were ten a penny for £4k!
@@petrolpoodle Thanks. Yes, nostalgia plays a huge role IMO. As you can probably tell from my age, I entered teenhood when the 80's began and enjoyed the period immensely and even then knew it was a special time. Some had Ferrari, some had Lamborghini, I had Porsche posters on my bedroom wall with all the great 80's music on the radio. Today I enjoy turning on some 80’s music in the garage and working on my 82 911 SC almost as much as driving it. It connects me to the car even more. If you have a chance, watch the 1987 movie No Mans Land with Charlie Sheen. It's a must watch classic for all Porsche lovers.
My 987 Cayman is more entertaining to drive, but doesn't quite reach the visceral feel and sound of my previous 1986 3.2. The SC's are wonderful, but I think the '87-'88 3.2 is the true sweet spot for these great aircools.
I do love a G body 911. This one is how I would set mine up too. slightly lowered suspension, the lovely fuchs wheels (this one looks to have the wonderful more aggressive wider 7", 8" fuchs, but I love any spec fuchs wheels), euro spec (which would include a more powerful engine, especially for the '81-'83 models with 204 hp) and one of the many rare but gorgeous colors offered by Porsche like this one has. I believe this is delphi green (when I google image searched the color). Fantastic color.
Those checkerboard seats are so classic. My best friend in high school had an 80's 930 Turbo, one of the Widow Maker types (we graduated in 1989) along with a 328, Coutach, 86.5 Supra new when they were released, and a few super bikes.
A well-considered overview indeed. I was gripped with the fever four years back and bought a 1980 LHD version in the US, which I imported, sight unseen. It was a moment of madness...that I have not regretted for one second. The car is a perfectly balanced, ultra-reliable classic, poky enough to raise a few hairs but perfectly fine as a daily drive. A punchy artwork on wheels that I enjoy every time I take it out on the road.
I love the little text commentary you've added to the video. You knew exactly who would be watching this video and wanted to mitigate the annoying comments. Made me laugh. Great video.
Hahahaha this really is the kinda comment that makes my day hahaha! You're the first person to ever say that, so I'm chuffed! It is funny how you end up foreseeing half the comments if you don't defuse early on hahaha!
I have an 86 Carrera, will be driving it across the US from Calif to Florida in the fall- The video will be called Cross Country Carrera. Every time I drive it, I have the same grin you had driving the SC. Admit it, what else has given you that smile that won't leave your face? You're going to do what you're going to do, but you'll still be dreaming of this analog car... for the rest of your life? We air-cooled owners dreamed of them until we finally got one. I'll never let go of mine...
Love this content-it’s the first of yours I have found! I have ridden in 911’s but never driven one, I always said I would own one one day-but I’m 75 now and not sure it will ever happen…… I decided recently to take a proper look at a Boxter-I could get in it reasonably easily-getting out with the roof up was a whole different ballgame-for context I broke my left hip 3 years ago which has significantly reduced my mobility. I had the chance to buy a 356 Super 90 back in the late 1960’s when I was at college-couldn’t raise the money unfortunately. Now that you ‘get’ the Porsche thing you really should try a 356……
Interesting review, back in 2005 I test drove a 1980 SC as I’d dreamt of owning a 911 since I was a kid. They were still cheap in those days but even back then it was very much a classic car driving experience which wasn’t what I was looking for. I now own a 996 which I think is a fantastic drive but still feels like a modern sports car. I’ve driven the later 911 models up to the 992.1 and don’t really have any desire to swap my 996 for one. It’d be interesting to revisit an SC now as a comparison…
What a car to come back with! I'm in the same camp, that 996 has left me longingly scrolling through autotrader despite being indifferent beforehand! Great review :)!
Great video, thanks! Spot-on. I was lucky enough to be able to buy an '85 3.2 Carrera from the original owner, who lives nearby, about eight years ago, just as the prices were starting to rise but weren't crazy yet. It was low miles (about 50k) and all original. He bought it in Germany, and had all of the original manuals, etc... On my first test drive before buying it, my thoughts in the first mile or so were "this car isn't for me". I guess it was just too different from what I was used to (mostly older BMW M3's). But in a matter of just ten minutes of driving, I found myself not wanting to bring it back, haha. I'm so glad I bought it, and love driving it. I still want to just keep on driving when I'm in it. In the years I've had it I've addressed any issues it had and made some small but meaningful improvements. It's been very reliable. The steering is of course incredible, and as you said, it's got just about the right amount of power to have fun and at least feel like you're going fast. My wife loves it too. I wish I lived somewhere I could drive it year-round, but it makes Springtime all the more special when we can take it out again.
I had a 911SC for 5 years and it cured me of my lust for air-cooled Porsches. It was nothing but a PIA and very tricky to drive. And at the prices today its laughable.
I love the use of 'cured me of my lust for' hahaha like it was a degenerative disease! I get it though! I weirdly NEEDED to own a Mk3 MX-5 at some point and I'm really glad I scratched that itch!
What a great review of a fantastic car. I own a Boxster and a '97 993 and kinda kick myself for not buying a couple more of the air-cooled Porsches back when they were more affordable! Would love to see a review of a tricked out 993.
Thanks so much, pal, I really appreciate it! I am able to review the owner's automatic 993 which I'm very excited about! I think it's also on some decent suspension etc with a nice exhaust, so it should be a corker! That'll be nice and soon!
If you have always wanted one, you will find a way to get one. Having said that I do wish they were a bit cheaper because more car people need to experience these. They are such a different driving experience and I never get tired of mine. If you have never driven one and someone offers you the keys, dont pass up the chance!
I completely agree with your conclusion, I had the same dilemma and ended up getting a 997.1 c2 and never regretted. However I will add the air cooled no matter what, but I'll never sell my 997 - it's just perfect for my taste.
I cannot wait to review a 997.2 C2 very soon actually! Really excited, I went to go and film it but it wouldn't start! The silly immobiliser issue is all sorted and I'll be giving my thoughts soon!
This Porsche is fitted with the 915 gearbox, not the best but remember that car is over 40 years old and will most likely drive better than most cars of its day and is still a great drive today. I know as I own a 1987 model and love it every time I take it out.
Ahhhh interesting! This is all very new to me, I appreciate learning the little intricate ins and outs. I absolutely adored driving it, it seems the Porsche light bulb has finally gone on over my head hahaha!
@@petrolpoodle I was bought up on fast ford of the era and nothing can compare to the Porsche 911, maybe understandable due to the prices oh and they both marks rust!!
I had a 911 991.2 type and an old backdated 911SC and ended up cringe SC 9 out 10 times as it was so much more fun and engaging. Sold the 991.2 and still have the SC.
Wow! And those are truly different ends of the spectrum aren't they! Especially given the size of the 991! Congats on keeping the classic! Sure the 991 was brilliant in its own right though.
Thanks for the hard work, its been very entertaining and well-documented/edited. I absolutely love a 911 sc but realistically cant afford it.... Am quite good at DIY/mechanics tho so maybe i'll grab one in a bad condition and restore it...? Also a 912 is sexy and a little less 'obvious'. But is it as reliable? Dunno
Just found this channel - really enjoy your vibe. No bullshit, not trying too hard. Just being yourself and being natural. Surprised you’ve not got a lot more subs! If you wanted to compare this 911 to another car from the era, I’ve got a v well sorted DeLorean you’d be welcome to take out. (Assuming we’re in the same part of the country!)
I seriously appreciate this comment, it really does give me a boost to put more time into getting more content sorted! Thank you so much. And I would absolutely love to do that! I'm pinching myself at the idea of even sitting in a Delorean let alone driving one! Madness! My email address is petrolpoodle@gmail.com, if it doesn't let me share the email then search for me on Instagram and pop me a message :D. Would be brilliant to chat!
My dream car😊 re the last bit about what other car could you use without worry, I've an 83 Mercedes 123 coupe and feel this falls into the same category. Had it nearly 5 years now and it's as sold as a wood burning stove, never even had to top up the oil between changes. The Germans really were special back then.
I just purchased a '77 911s at the start of '24. You've nailed every aspect of what I love about mine (despite it not being a 3.2). Especially your comment that it just feels fast. You really do have to drive one to understand the obsession.
I bought a one-owner 1977 911S Targa myself 5 months ago. It sat in a garage for the last 20 years without being driven. Still in the process of getting it sorted and haven’t driven it yet. Your post has me excited!
Thanks very much, Mark! Yeah I was concerned that I'd risk of me being (initially) unfussed by Porsche as mistakenly seen as an ungrateful youth who doesn't appreciate how lucky they are to drive an iconic piece of history. I'm just super appreciative I got the opportunity to experience one, the fact I loved it and this video has done brilliantly are just 2 bonuses to that fact!
I’m a rare Porchephile who dislikes the sound of the air cooled 6s. The older 4s were sweet but these sound like a troll gargling gravel. Love everything else though.
One of the best cars I’ve ever owned. I still have the 72 911t and love the daily driver 99 996 c4. I’ve had the 72 since 1990 will not part with it for any money.
Great video indeed! Thanks a lot! Love to see the appreciation growing, on the verge of turning into passion. Getting into the 911 world through a water-cooled model is an illusion, though. They are worlds apart from any air-cooled 911 and there is no substitute. The G-model does, imho, pair the perfect classic Porsche feeling, especially the pre-86 ones with the classic 915 gearbox (for the true feeling - and yes, it does work fabulously when correctly adjusted) with maximum reliability. I’ve done 20.000km / year in the last 4 years in my 1984 3.2 litre coupé and it’s an outstanding travelling experience. I actually even prefer it over my 987 Boxster. Hope you’ll get yours and then give us more reports like this!
I had a ride in one as a kid and it left a lasting impression on me. It seemed so planted and the acceleration and squirtability gave the impression it could overtake almost anywhere in the shortest of gaps. But like you, I'd baulk at the current price and would probably settle for one of the later models at less than half the price. But if money wasn't the issue then I'd go for any 911 from the early 70s to this model.
Agreed! With no money concerns I'd own one of these SCs alongside a 997.2 manual! Would be happy with pretty much any of the cooking Carrera specs too!
Wow, what a return Jimmy. Glad to see you warming to Porsche, you know 996's are my soft spot, don't buy a Targa though, lol. I think it's time you had a go in my Boxster.
Thanks so much mate and I'm absolutely keen! It'll be my 4th Porsche but most excitingly it's the most affordable one with a fun backstory! Would love to.
Thank you heaps for celebrating the best classic 911 iteration (imho). You're obviously too young to have a comprehensive experience of driving these cars, and you've told some inaccuracies. But your driving description is quite accurate. I've had the two versions of the SC (188 bhp and 204 bhp) as daily drivers, and these were the absolute best 100% analogue 911. It changed completely with the Carrera 3.2 not the SC. I agree with you that these cars are not cheap, however they're only gone up with the overall 911 market and are still, in my opinion, way overlooked compared to a 3.2 for instance. Thanks for this video ! Cheers
Thanks very much, I also really appreciate your understanding of my inaccuracies! It's refreshing compared to some comments on other videos just have people up in arms over the tiniest of details! I appreciate it!
If you must, a 3.0 SC with the updated chain tensioner, the air box flapper install on the CIS box, and a vacuum advance. They are the best hope for a normal guy who wants to keep one on the road.
I love the style, and the feeling of connection with the vehicle, but i do agree that a vintage sports car like this just gets absolutely gapped by a modern day minivan - isn't worth a $75k+ usd price tag.
I bought my 83 in 2011 with ~250k miles from my step-father who bought it in '84. It continues it's life as a daily driver after a engine and trans rebuild, now at ~320k. If I'm selling my 911, something terrible has happened...
I have a 86 coupe as use it as a 3rd car. Takes me back to my first 83 SC coupe which was my first Porsche. My second is a 2004 Turbo Cab which gives me modern conveniences. My daily is a Tesla Modal Y Performance which gives me all the luxury of a modern fast car! But to be honest, I love my 1991 964 Targa which I miss and hope to get another 964 or 993C2S or C4S.
I own a few Porsches- my love of air cooled starts with a 356, a heavily modified 1968 and a 1972 (work in progress😳) then … my favorite, the ‘92 964. It’s the most remarkable car which captures a toe hold in the old and a glimpse of what’s to come; followed by what I would call the great transition 911 which is a ‘96 993 C4 wide body. It goes on from there to a 997.1 Turbo and two 991.2’s (a turbo and a Cab) I’m not beating my chest here, I’m blessed to own these cars. What do I jump in when I want to go somewhere? The 964 or the 993
That was a very enjoyable read! As I'm now new to paying proper attention to 911s I'm actually really enjoying these anecdotal reviews. Congrats on the epic collection!
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@13:41 100%. I personally find it disrespectful (great word choice btw) too. Further the vehicles owner could do a portion in a video where they throw it around a bit if that serves a greater purpose. Otherwise, this video, your style, all perfect to inform us. *Hype Check*, That is what we are after in this video
@@T0mmyTune thank you very much ☺
I've a 997.1 the last pure flat 6 with out any intermediate assistance like fuel injection etc..
I am intending getting to my kubla khan which would be a 2019 Carrera T but after watching this I'm now thinking 1982 911 SC!!
The joy of Porsche!!
"Which one??? please tell me god, which one??"
I purchased my first 911 about a month ago. It’s a 79 911SC Coupe. I literally have wanted one since I was 15 or so, I am now 57. Wow…what a fantastic driving experience.
Hi Jay!
Congrats! Hope it gives you 50 more years of joy
congrats!!!
i'm like you I have a 1977 911s in Grand Prix white and the best thing is going in my garage shutting the door and putting on the radio and listening to 60's and 70's music in the shed and spending quality hours on working on the car!..just me and my Porsche! It is nice though sometimes the lady will appear and ask what I'm up too!...God bless
That is an utterly beautiful image, @john22ndname!
Brilliant. And I don’t disagree. However, you will get a 996 or a 997. I guarantee it. And after a ‘while’ you will long for this experience and regret having not just gotten the air cooled first. And then you will find the resources, come up with the cash, and buy one at whatever price the market commands. Because we all do. We all start rationally and practically and responsibly. Then you get older and reassess and weigh time versus money and what you sincerely value most. I cannot wait for you to get here with the rest of us fools who have ‘spent too much’ as most would say, for one of these. Great review, glad you did it.
I absolutely love this comment, I read it outloud to my non-petrolhead girlfriend and even she loved it! Thank you sir!
100%, that’s exactly my journey. First one was a 996, then 997 then SC, then 993. Tried a C63, it lasted 6 months. Nothing compares.
I started with a 914 in '79 at the young age of 16 and then bought a 73.5 Targa in the early 90s and still regret selling it in '04. Having been through a 996(a poor replacement for the 73.5) and now with a completely refreshed 997.1 I prefer this over all of the previous 911s I've owned as it meshes the new with the old, BUT nothing will replace the raw nature, smells and feel of an early 911. SHHH, don't tell my wife I'm looking for another early long hood 911 as she thinks 4 in the garage is enough for now...
I had a 997 and 997 turbo, now a 1979 SC and was never addicted to the drive like I am with the older porshe
I had a 1986 Carrera. I've had a 997 and a 996. Still got the 996. I agree that air cooled are nice but not nice enough for the money. I would get a GT3 any day before another air cooled.
I've owned a 1985 911 Targa Carrera for 39 years now and have put over 285,000 miles on it. You are quite right in your review observation.... the car is meant to be driven and it has been the most reliable vehicle I have ever owned. Other than standard maintenance over the years, I have had one transmission rebuild and a valve job. Other than that, I get in it, start it up and 39 years later at the ripe young age of 71, I still smile when I'm behind the wheel and feel like I did the first day I bought it. The 911 is one of those cars that is a rare piece of automotive engineering art and those fortunate enough to experience them in their lives find that they melt into your soul and become part of you.
My '85 has 152k miles on it, 53k of which I've put on it over the 28 years I've owned it. It's needed rear shocks, brakes, 1 module for the fuel injection, which was $147 from a dealer in around 2002, and an alternator. Trust me when I say that replacing the alternator on a 3.2 Carrera is a colossal pain in the ass for a DIY mechanic.
The AC was never really very good, but the heater would set your shirt on fire. The brakes are fantastic, and the steering makes a mockery of every other car I've driven. I'm 6'1" and it fits me perfectly. It's not "quaint" like an MGB or Fiat 124. It's very analog, but properly quick. An old 911 does not suffer ham fisted fools, but you don't have to be going 200mph to be rewarded by it either. I grew up watching 911 derived race cars racking up race wins, and not 911s not breaking on people who actually drove them.
Two favorite stories about the car -
I had taken my then 9 year old daughter to Blockbuster to get some movies (Yes, it was back in ye olden times.) and as we were leaving, an older gentleman pulled into the parking spot next to us. My daughter has long, very straight, light red hair and tends to stand out a bit. She was used to people commenting on her hair from a young age. However, when the man told her that she was a lucky little girl to be "riding around in that car" she was at a loss. As we drove off, she asked what he was talking about. She was completely oblivious, as she was just riding in dad's car.
A few years before he passed, my grandfather came for a visit. He had bought a '62 356 new, but sold it probably 30 year prior. I insisted that we go for a spin in my car. When we got back home, he had a faint smile on hi face, and said, "There's just something about that sound coming from behind you that you never forget."
I had various 911SCs for about 7 years in the 2000s. I couldn't believe how reliable they were.I dailied them every day,..rain or shine. Loved owning them. The engine note was to die for...if ever there was a usable classic..
It's an SC
he´s a kid or millenium or whatever, they don´t understand life, things fall in their hands as they want them and don´t have a clue about life
I own a 996 myself. And I'm the first one to admit that air cooled Porsches look a million times better. Especially the 993, which is my favorite. But they're so crazy expensive that no ordinary car enthusiasts can afford them anymore. And because they made 964 and 993 only about 65 thousand of each and half of them cabrios/targas/automatics, the manual coupes will be appreciated even more in the future. They made over 1.5 times more of 996's alone than 964 and 993 COMBINED. They also made 212,964 units of 997. That's also why 996 and 997 prices are lower. But as you said 996 is definitely the best value for money Porsche. Still drives like an analog, small 911 and has just a bit more power and performance.
Wooooow, I did not realise the difference in production numbers that you just highlighted there! Jeeees!
Congrats on the 996 by the way, I can safely say I finally get it and I'm envious!
"I don't know where the F@$# I am going BTW."
That pretty much sums up the experience of driving an air cooled Porsche. You get so engaged and enthralled, you look up and you're just way out somewhere or you take the long way home, simply enjoying driving again.
Aircooled 911 will give you more sensations and pleasure at lower speed than 996. This is why I own a 964.
I have to say, I've seen the light! I just wish they were value-wise on an equal playing field like they used to be! Great news for the long-term owners who've put in the love to keep theirs in top condition though eh!
Fair point. I have a 997.1 and at 80 mph, anywhere, it's the sweet spot. Feels AMAZING. Slow speed is great too, but gearing is such that moderate speed is the catalyst for the car. IMO
Yes, it takes a long time to figure out it's all about feel and rawness and being able to use all of the revs at sane speeds. When you're young you don't know that this is the good stuff. On the road.
@@Audfile perfectly put! I actually don't enjoy going absurdly fast on the road, you can only enjoy yourself for seconds at a time!
@@petrolpoodle I have the same philosophy with my motorcycles now. I don't want to idle all over town on a 1000 in first gear basically, barely tapping it, then tapping it, losing my license and freedom. Light weight, handling, sound, feel, those are my metrics.
I ordered my ‘81 911 SC from the Porsche+Audi dealer in my town in 1981. I’m still driving it today. Every time I drive a “modern” Porsche, I’m disappointed. The sound, the size, the visceral feeling I get from driving my car is, to me, superior in every way. Yes, it demands my attention. That’s part of what’s great about it. I will never sell it.
I had a 82 911sc I bought when I was 22 for just under 17k. I loved it despite it being a time capsule in 2006. It was everything I thought a classic Porsche would be and I regret ever selling it.
We've all been there
Oh mate it's better to have loved and lost...
But really though, we all do it! Amazing that you had the privilege of owning something that now most people can't find the money for at all :)
I own a 996, but fell in love with the 911 in 1977 when I was 12 years old and have wanted one since. The 996 is the 911 that I could afford and I absolutely LOVE my car. But a G body is my ultimate dream car.
You'll get there, don't let go of the dream.
Great video. I agree with your assessments of the steering and other aspects of this model. I've got 217k miles on my SC and I've owned it 40 years. I also have a 993 C4S and a 996 Turbo S. Prices on SC's went through a period where prices were flat 10-15 years but they have never dropped after they initially bottomed out in the mid 80's. . If you find the perfect air cooled car for you, and your budget agrees, I would get it. For every 911 I've bought there has been no shortage of people telling me they were over priced at that time. I could have bought a new Datsun for what I paid for my used SC in 1984 and i had many that reminded me of that. The SC is just special; from the faint smell of oil and hot metal to the sound when the door closes. Just my opinion.
I love that - 'For every 911 I've bought there are no shortage of people telling me they were overpriced at that time'. That's so true isn't it actually, people say that still about 997s today, and they're not particularly inflated!
Also, what a garage you have! That's remarkable!
@@petrolpoodle thank you.
I just picked up my first air cooled 911 and I can't stop smiling. Just an unbelievable experience.
Great, straight, honest analysis. I have owned my 1979 911SC since 1980. I cannot part with it. As you say, driving it is a more raw experience, but that is the charm.
The feedback one gets from the steering is top notch and love how it lightens when giving her full beans.
I bought an 83sc in 2005 for $9900 in Calif, high miles at 150k but had all checked out and it was all good.
I bought my first 911 SC at age 25 from an ex racing driver by the name of Nick Faure. I owned her for about 3 years thereafter but ended up selling her for a Mangusta. Not long after that, as much as I enjoyed the Mangusta, I had to have a 911 again. It took me a while to find the right car but I have owned 911's ever since and other than adding different cars to the stable I have not been without an air-cooled 911 and I'm now 57. They are an addiction.
I finally get it!
I think these cars have become attractive because they can be nearly fully self-supported in the owner's garage and have excellent parts availability. Many spare parts for competing exotics of this age are completely NLA and newer used examples aren't easily supported by the owner due to complexity. And while not a rare car by any means, Porsche 911 production in these years was just a small fraction of competitors like the Corvette.
Purchased a 76 911 Targa in 1990 with 50K miles for $11,000. Guards Red 2.7 liter w/ cookie cutter rims. The car felt like it was carved out of a piece of billet aluminum. I was 24 and remember thinking, “there’s no way I should be driving something this nice”. I put another 50K miles on her with typical Porsche upgrades & maintenance. Oil tubes, Carrera cam chain tensioner upgrade. Purchasing oil by the case, etc. Never broke down, always started, even after sitting for months when I was abroad. Easily the most well made iconic car I’ve ever owned. Now I’m about to turn 58 and would love to find another one to drive weekly. Bravo on your thoughts & review!
What a lovely trip down memory lane. It paints quite a picture!
And thank you so much, hugely appreciated
Totally agree with your observation that the sensation of speed is what matters, and that cars with this sort of power to weight ratio give you as much power as you realistically need for normal driving.
Completely! I've been in very powerful S class equivalents that simply hide the fact they're going stupidly fast!
I love that this feels a million times quicker than it is!
I used to drive a 1983 Alfa Romeo GTV 6 and this is exactly the feeling I had. Every gear shift I felt as if I was reconnecting the car to the road. Every time I gave it throttle coming out of a corner I could feel the weight shift, the car dig in, and shoot out on the other side. I have never been able to replicate that experience.
I know exactly what you mean. I have a 1979 Alfetta GTV running a later twin spark engine with an LSD transaxle V6 brakes and fast road suspension. It handles fantastically well and is as quick as the slower 911's on the track, but still a great touring car for everyday use. Steering is pin sharp. Here in Australia the only thing that lets it down for everyday use in summer is lousy air conditioning. Had to laugh at that video about what the pommies think is a fun road to drive on. Here In Melbourne, Victoria Australia we spoilt for great roads an hour or so out of the city. An early morning mid-week drive, it's as much fun as you can have with your pants on. All at a fraction of the cost of an air cooled 911.
@@paulgulliver659 😁😂
I have owned a 1976 911s Targa for 32 years. It has the original engine and trans. 194,000 miles. We keep improving it with little things and maintain it. You will need to replace the fuel lines because of the gasoline and their age. A link will mean an instant fire. All parts are readily available. Enjoy tje ride
Woooooow that's incredible! Nearly at the full 200,000 miles on a near 50 year old car! Sensational.
Congratulations and thanks for the tips!
Respect. The car is lucky to have you as its caretaker.
200K is not that big of a deal. When you rebuild a motor you can replace the jugs. This mean rebuilds are almost unlimited. Corrosion control was not as good of the 74-77 models as they started after 1978.
I owned a ‘75 targa and it was a disaster. Magnesium valve covers were notorious for leaking oil. Oil cooler wanted to leak. I believe it was K-jettronic like on my Scirocco, which makes it only OK as far as fuel injection is concerned.
Ultimately either because of oil drips or fuel leak the engine caught fire.
If you want durability with excessive mechanic bills buy a 1970s-80s Mercedes diesel. I had an 82 Maxima diesel that went 300k on the way to 500K before I sold it.
Porsche parts are expensive and it rode like a little go cart. Now I have a 75 914 and being sacrilegious to Porschafiles I like it better than the 911
Love my 76 911S Targa. All Analog. on the rails cornering. Smiles for miles.
I got a 997.1 as my first Porsche and loved it as a Daily driver 8 years ago. Then went air-cooled with a 1985 Carrera 3 years ago. I couldn't imagine daily the air cooled, but as a Sunday / occasional car it's in another league for feeling special. Go 996 or 997 for a daily though.
Perfectly put!
I have had a 1980 SC for 10 years and I’ve put about 40k miles on it. It’s a pleasure to own. I drive it as often as possible. The sensation of speed keeps you out of trouble vs modern sports cars. I don’t know what you’d do with a 500hp McLaren, but revving out an old 911 makes you feel like you are absolutely flying, but not going much over the speed limit.
Completely agree!
I had a 78 911SC that I used as a daily driver summer/winter in Alberta. It had 200,000 km when I got it and 300,000 km when I sold it. It is the minimalist essence of a sports car. You won't want to use it as a daily driver today, but when you're in it you'll never mistake it for your Lexus daily driver. If you can, get the L Jetronic version (or newer) as that system is very reliable.
Bloody hell that's impressive!
We had a E30 BMW 325. That too had no power steering - and the electronics for the straight-6 are just enough to make it better, but not enough to be troublesome. But it did not need power steering - for anything other than parking, it was correctly weighted, and precise, and fun. And that engine - the BMW small-6 has that sound. However, tinworm ate the rear body, and we had to lose it.
I hit the love button before reading about the tinworm, which broke my heart!
And man what a wonderful car though, have you ever been tempted to get another?
Great video. Happy to lend you my 997 C2 manual which I won on Classic giveaways last year if you like for a review. Love the idea of aircooled but so happy with mine too for daily driving and still feel like the luckiest person around. Welcome to the addictive world of Porsche.
Thank you so much, this has absolutely made my day!
I specifically wanted to pin a comment saying 'Can anyone with a manual 997, ideally C2 or 4 please let me review it!?' and thought... don't shut down other models, but it's what I want! Hallelujah! hahaha
That would be incredible, could you pop me a message on Instagram (petrolpoodle) or pop me an email to petrolpoodle@gmail.com? I'd seriously love to organise this!
Hey Spookybus!
I'm super keen to shoot this 997 review if you're still up for it :)
If you want to pop me an email to petrolpoodle@gmail.com or petrolpoodle on Instagram I'd be delighted to organise it!
We have an '88 with about 140k miles and love it for all the reasons you so beautifully articulated. Super fun to drive at all times. Reasonably reliable, so I have driven it halfway across the USA several times. But usable, a little worn, and not hidden away in a garage.
And what a COLOR on that one in the video. Stunning!
I wanted a 911 since I first got my licence in mid 1970s, and my aim to buy a 911 was the driving force for me to get into defense manufacturing in the 1990s. Three years after commencing Defense manufacturing I bought a red 911SC coupe with chin spoiler, tray spoiler, and black interior, electric sunroof, with cash in the bank. I owned my 911 for 5 years til selling it in 2005 to reinvest the money back into my business.
In the five tears I owned my 911SC, I had two expenses out side normal servicing expenses, total spent, $300 for replace fuel pump and to service starter motor solenoid switch. I loved every minute of driving my 911SC. lovely to drive, gear change was simply a matter of experience with it, once I had owned it for 2-3 months, did not need to think about changing gears and when to change. Driving 911 through twisties, mean, brake before turning into corner and keep the accelerator slightly depressed. I absolutely loved the unique futuristic whirring sound of the flat six 911 motor.
Loved how the engine sprang into life the instant the starter was engaged!. 911SC goes through corners and roundabouts like you would'nt believe! Braking was impressive too!
Loved accelerating through round abouts sometimes getting rev hears think they could keep up with me. Ha! one spun out on exit of the roundabout. the other almost did but managed to straighten up. At the next traffic lights we were side by side, I lowered the pasenger window and said to the driver - good save! they smiled sheepishly.
While i owned my 911SC, another 1982 930 came up for sale which i took for a test drive - the acceleration was indescribable compared to non turbo model, seemed to me it went faster than I could depress my right foot! I really do miss my 911. Love rear engineed cars, and as lament the passing of aircooled rear engined cars. That's my two cents worth!
This was a delightful read, thanks for sharing!
I feel like your production quality is on point. It does not have that highend super edited 'tv' feel, but also not a low quality homemade feel. It is somewhere cozy in between. I really like it.
That is a truly delightful comment, I really appreciate it!
Funnily enough my latest video (986 Boxster) was a workflow experiment to see if shooting in 1080 with a pre-baked colour profile (compared to manual grading like I normally do) would save me masses of time. Glad I did the experiment but all other videos from that one forward have been shot in quality to match this standard hahaha just in case you see a new one and go oh...!
I've owned and driven several vintage' Porsches; they are wonderful.
Amen!
I own both early ie air cooled 911's and a 996
Made multiple cross country trips with my air cooled 911's, the now I only drive the 996 or my 928 GT on long distance trips
Very nice Video. I have a 911S from 1976 and I really had to learn that you can and should drive the car as you just bought it new. Mine has done 150.000 miles with first engine and is happy all day. I invest my money in servicing it and maintaining it well. No plans for mature changes. Drive it carefully up to temp. and then use the rpm range.
I have none of the cars you mentioned, but my dream is a 964 rs. You have splendid taste BTW!
Thanks very much - and I'm chuffed to hear yours is also getting used properly rather than garaged and forgotten!
Interesting review. I'm fortunate to own a 1983 911 SC which I have owned for 24 years. Coincidentally, I drove it yesterday for the first time since Covid, when it was laid up during the first lockdown and subsequent life got in the way. A gap of that duration has made me revisit the car with fresh eyes, and I've got to say I'd forgotten how involving it is to drive, and actually still feels quick and nimble on the road. I'm looking forward to getting some miles in and re-learning how to get the best from it. I started recommissioning a couple of months ago and have replaced all of the brake discs, callipers and hoses, changed all of the fluids, plugs and filters and can confirm they are a realistic DIY proposition to work on. Parts are reasonably priced with plenty of availability from different vendors. The car has also inadvertently become a good investment as it is apparently worth several times what I bought it for! I am also a long-term owner of a 997.2 and still see these as the sweet spot for "modern" 911 ownership with them still being a "small" car with an analogue feel, but with many of the potentially (perhaps sometimes over exaggerated) but nevertheless financially scary aspects of earlier models (IMS/Bore scoring etc) addressed.
Sorry for getting to this comment so late, there's been a million comments and this slipped the net!
Absolutely love this, so glad to hear it's getting the love it deserves and you're enjoying it so much.
By the way, I've been trying hard to review a 997 on the channel, so if you are UK based and would like to see it on the channel, please do let me know at petrolpoodle@gmail.com!
I owned a 2003 Boxster S for a while, and probably was the best driving car I ever owned. But, kind of cost prohibitive when things go wrong, for middle class person… so, sold it for a profit and bought a C3 Corvette. Not saying it’s better but it fits me better, and sure is cheaper to drive and maintain. Has similar vibes but way more unrefined.
I think you made a wise choice and a C3 Corvette has still got to be a lot of fun! These cars are ultimately there to substitute driving sensible choices 24/7 and the C3 is no doubt a riot!
Really liked your upload. I own one, '82 with a 930 engine, was given as a birthday present in '96 at my third date, now my wife 30+ years, needed a giant restoration(unplanned), but became our wedding car. It's my 2nd classic, as I constantly swap between another 'bike on 4 wheels, my '34 MG PB. I really love your analog experience, as it fully describes as why many of us like these cars. Also I question the high price. When we got it, the CEO of Porsche wanted to end the 911 program and our car was seen as the tame and most boring P to buy. I knew nothing of P, only enjoying/tinkering prewar classic bikes, but as a design engineer fell in love with the whole brand P, later the same happened, when reading about MG. Everytime my wife drives it, nomatter what angle I look, I still get warm feelings for what is driving there 'both'. I bet, after several years you will swap or add to your 996, an 911 air cooled one. As they become a glove or shoe, the more you wear it, the less keen or ever you want to part from it. From another petrol head. Thanks for sharing!
One of the good memories I have of my aircooled 911 (1971 911E with "S" suspension and 175 HP and approximately 2250 lbs.) is that in a medium-to-tight turn, while all four tires were making a bit of noise, there was a point when I'd start feeding the throttle, that the inside front tire would go quiet.
I can already picture/imagine it! The 996 that I pushed harder was satisfying in a very similar way
Manual steering is a shock nowadays but wow the feel for the road can’t be beat.
Precisely!
It's pretty rare to watch a video on an air cooled Porsche where the presenter is usually either Porsche biased, or a hater that shoots them down after listening to all the usual BS associated with old Porsches when they haven't driven one. As an owner of a '78 (albeit backdated by myself), I'm glad you got to drive one and now realise why owners love them, as once you understand what these cars are all about, you'll always have that little voice in the back of your mind wondering how you can own one! Nice one mate 👍
I can tell you what other car from 1985 you can absolutely thrash everyday. An AW11 MR2! The 996 turned me on to Porsches, and I still own both. Great review!
That's awesome! And thanks very much, much appreciated!
YES!!! at around 12:30 you really hit it. That little giggle int he wheel that reminds you that you are in fact in contact with the road. I can tell you that this is still the case in the 996.
Awesome review of the Porsche 911 SC ... it is definitely refreshing to view content which is not only honest but also includes a good balance of historical context, technical features, and driving impressions 🤓!
As a longtime Porsche fan-atic, I probably am somewhat biased at this point having owned several different examples (both based on rear and mid-engine layouts). Within the rear-engine lineup, a few other models worthy of mentioning would be a 911 Carrera 3.2 and 993 series. However, in truth, each iteration has something unique to offer the sports car enthusiast!
Again, thanks for a fun video and cheers from Colorado!
Thanks so much, Daniel, I hugely appreciate it! Genuinely do.
I'm very excited to be reviewing a 993, a 996 and hopefully a 997 soon! It'd be a dream to get them all done together in a day but that's probably logistically not possible. But I'm now properly excited to explore, as you put it nicely, what each cars unique traits are.
Great video - thanks. I really related to it, because I bought a G-series 911 last year and am in the process of falling madly, deeply in love with it. And that's despite its imperfections. As you said, there is so much scope to build on the excellent fundamentals of these cars to make them exactly how the owner wants them, and add value in the process (if the work is done really well.) That's what I plan to do to my car. Incidentally, it's a 1977 LHD ex-German car, originally a 2.7, but with a 180bhp SC engine fitted in 1998. I've owned a 996 (a C4S) and adored it. I've been fortunate to own a series of incredible performance cars over the years. But my 1977 car creates smiles and satisfaction on every drive, and that's worth a fortune to me.
Great video! I have a massive soft spot for G series 911s. I recently sold mine (Carrera 3.2) after 16 years of ownership because I wanted a change. I'm now in an MX5 and loving that it excels in different ways to the 911. I will always miss the unique feel and sound of the 911, when you gun it out of a tight bend, feeling the sublime steering, the rear squats and engine howls and she just goes!
I think collectors simply found an easier thing to collect than Ferraris.
They are abundant.
That’s all. Plus they’re ok cars and have character.
Please test a soviet Saporoshez its also great and still affordable
Do you have one he could drive?
If you know where I can drive one, I'd be keen!
7:12. Back in the mid 1980’s my dad had a euro spec 911SC (we’re in the states). Some of my best memories with my dad were going on a long on-ramp and hitting 60 in second gear. Thanks for taking me back to the good old days.
Very well done. I did what you saw as your conclusion - purchased a 996 C4 last year. I admit, I was trying to get into the 911 world with minimal investment, but also get into a car I could drive daily for nine or ten months of the year. I sold a late 60s Corvette to finance my 911 purchase, and I am very happy with that decision. I love driving it, and look for every excuse to do so. At the time, I was motivated by missing out on the purchase of a 1987 Guards Red coupe from a family friend who had owned it since the early 90s. But in the end, I got a 131,000 mile car that is now a rolling project. I’m making further investments in it, and there is no way I could recoup that money now after a year, but to me it doesn’t matter. It’s already much better than it was when I bought it, and want to drive this car to well over 200,000 miles, and I think that’s very possible. Cheers.
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it!
And what a superb choice, it sounds like a dream machine!
I like your videos, thanks for sharing this. I would encourage you to drive a late Carrera 3.2. If we are talking about the last of g bodies with simplicity - torsion bar suspension and manual steering the 3.2 is the really the car to drive. There's no downside to a 3.2 over a SC (also a great car!). But the 87-88 3.2 has improved AC, a fan on the oil cooler, makes more power (217US and 230 row), and has modern but simple electronic fuel injection. Yes, you can keep the CIS going in a SC, but its fiddly and you have to deal with the plastic airbox on the SC, something that is a non issue on the 3.2 cars. Anyway they are all great, but if we are talking about the last of the classic G bodies the late 3.2 (with a 930 steering tie rod upgrade) is the car to drive.
Thanks so much pal! And yes I've had a few people encouraging me to go and try a 3.2 Carrera, I'd love to if I could!
As far as a classic to daily drive , that is fun and won’t break the bank and has that analog feel try a Saab 900 turbo or naturally aspirated
Ooooooo why have I never thought of this!? That's a great shout, I'm going to hop on AutoTrader now! I could have a fully Swedish driveway!
Nothing else ticks more boxes than an aircooled 911. Most of the owners I know have owned their cars for well over 10 years, myself included with 18 years with the same car and over 80k miles, although the car now has 160k and has never been apart. Porsche, there is no substitute!
Excellent video, the best first time air cooled evaluation I've seen. Too bad you didn't have the opportunity to push it on track or mountain road. Very informative anyway, good work!
Thank you, that's very high praise and I'm honoured!
I would love to have been able to explore its dynamic capabilities on a perfect road, to really discover that next level of magic. One day perhaps that opportunity will come but man, just so lucky to have been able to drive one at all!
3:23 Pascha interior! Gorgeous!
Having wanted an air cooled 911 since I was a kid I started searching a couple years ago and stumbled onto a beautiful 89 911 3.2. Marine blue with linen interior. Put deposit down sight unseen. Price was under market value for 2021. PPI was great so signed the purchase agreement. Flew out to Ohio and drove it back to Pennsylvania. The last hour and a half was all back roads. By far my best car experience ever. Will never let this car go.
I just got a 3.2 in Marine Blue as well and I'm also in PA. Hopefully we'll see each other at some point.
That's beautiful! Congratulations!
What a wonderful road test! So refreshing to have a Porsche reviewed by someone who isn't an already-devoted fanboy (although I suspect you are going to become one!). This style of reporting is so relaxing and easy to digest, it's an absolute breath of fresh air and has made me an instant subscriber. Thank you for your excellent work 👍
Thank you so much, this is honestly one of my favourite comments I've read in months! I cut my talking segments down from roughly 30 mins per video to usually 18 to 22 mins in general and after watching myself natter for literally 8 hours of editing, I often think I go on and on for far too long. So I appreciate your superbly kind words!
The great news is I've got a LOT of exciting cars lined up and this video in particular has given me the boost of excitement to give this a full go and throw everything I have at it!
Thank you again and I look forward to seeing your name on a future video hopefully :D
@1:35 The 914 is one of my favourite cars. We bought one in to the 90's for $10K
I own a 1976 911s with a bigger engine but still the 915 gearbox, I think you got the review spot on how rewarding these cars are to drive 996 just hasn't got the same feel. When you drive one of the older cars they are more of a challenge to drive well. I think they are still undervalued a ferrari of this age would cost more to buy and would cost more to keep on the road.
Thanks so much and congrats on owning such a fun piece of history! Great point re: the Ferrari, I hadn't even thought about what they'd be worth!
Great review! And interesting and honest conclusion. I decided between my dream car 993 and a 996. Ended up with a 996 3.6 C2 manual and put some money I saved on not buying the 993 on Ohlins coilovers, which made the 996 totally amazing. Needless to say what the 993 stands for for me but I had to realize the 996 ate it for breakfast from a drivers point and dynamically speaking, so that was my choice. The 997 felt too modern so, for me, the 996 is the perfect blend between analouge and modern sportscar. Either way, glad that older 911 is finding its crowd and as an antidote to highly competent but rather dull modern sportscars.
I think what your video conveys so well is what a special feeling it is to drive these cars. Prices seem very high and aren't coming down where other classics are getting cheaper. One thing I think that may be a factor in prices staying this high apart from all the great things you mention in the video is the fact that Porsche still supports these models through their Classic program and are producing parts that are specific to these cars and might otherwise not be available anymore. For instance Porsche started to produce the Targa roof for the G-model cars again apart from many other parts. The other reason, obviously, is the fact that so many of us like to own, or do own a older Porsche. See all the reactions on this video; either owners are holding on to theirs and prospective owners are waiting in the wings to get their hands on one. A 911 is a beautiful thing to look at and there is a lot of value in enjoying a drive in an older 911. Can't do that in a Bitcoin 🙂
Thanks so much, David! Also I love your closing line re: Bitcoin haahaha!
I'm 58 and the 911 was one of the quintessential sports cars in the 80's so for me air cooled represents tons of nostalgia. Also having seen the 1987 movie No Man's land made me want one even more though historically I was more of a 928 guy since the 90's and have owned three but in 2014 I suddenly became infatuated with classic air cooled 911's but the prices kept me from buying until I gave in last December on a grand prix white 1982 911 SC and I cannot stop looking at the car. It's truly an icon. I owned a 99 996 for eight years prior but it never hit the spot that this air cooled car does for me.
Excuse my copy and paste reply below but as I just touched on nostalgia, I'll say that I totally get it myself!
I realised I forgot to mention that obviously the nostalgia is such an important and understandable part of that value.
I grew up in the 1990's and early 00's, and for me, my dad owning a '99 Impreza WRX STI 'rally car for the road' and that general era of Impreza vs Evo etc just fills me with a ridiculous amount of nostalgia. I would now be one of those people spending farrrrrr too much for an immaculate 90's Impreza when not long ago they were ten a penny for £4k!
@@petrolpoodle Thanks. Yes, nostalgia plays a huge role IMO. As you can probably tell from my age, I entered teenhood when the 80's began and enjoyed the period immensely and even then knew it was a special time. Some had Ferrari, some had Lamborghini, I had Porsche posters on my bedroom wall with all the great 80's music on the radio. Today I enjoy turning on some 80’s music in the garage and working on my 82 911 SC almost as much as driving it. It connects me to the car even more. If you have a chance, watch the 1987 movie No Mans Land with Charlie Sheen. It's a must watch classic for all Porsche lovers.
Air cooled is 😎
My 987 Cayman is more entertaining to drive, but doesn't quite reach the visceral feel and sound of my previous 1986 3.2. The SC's are wonderful, but I think the '87-'88 3.2 is the true sweet spot for these great aircools.
That's very well put!
I do love a G body 911. This one is how I would set mine up too. slightly lowered suspension, the lovely fuchs wheels (this one looks to have the wonderful more aggressive wider 7", 8" fuchs, but I love any spec fuchs wheels), euro spec (which would include a more powerful engine, especially for the '81-'83 models with 204 hp) and one of the many rare but gorgeous colors offered by Porsche like this one has. I believe this is delphi green (when I google image searched the color). Fantastic color.
Those checkerboard seats are so classic. My best friend in high school had an 80's 930 Turbo, one of the Widow Maker types (we graduated in 1989) along with a 328, Coutach, 86.5 Supra new when they were released, and a few super bikes.
A well-considered overview indeed. I was gripped with the fever four years back and bought a 1980 LHD version in the US, which I imported, sight unseen. It was a moment of madness...that I have not regretted for one second. The car is a perfectly balanced, ultra-reliable classic, poky enough to raise a few hairs but perfectly fine as a daily drive. A punchy artwork on wheels that I enjoy every time I take it out on the road.
Thank you so much :)
I love the little text commentary you've added to the video. You knew exactly who would be watching this video and wanted to mitigate the annoying comments. Made me laugh. Great video.
Hahahaha this really is the kinda comment that makes my day hahaha! You're the first person to ever say that, so I'm chuffed!
It is funny how you end up foreseeing half the comments if you don't defuse early on hahaha!
Silences make the real conversations between friends. Not the saying but the never needing to say is what counts.
I have an 86 Carrera, will be driving it across the US from Calif to Florida in the fall- The video will be called Cross Country Carrera. Every time I drive it, I have the same grin you had driving the SC. Admit it, what else has given you that smile that won't leave your face? You're going to do what you're going to do, but you'll still be dreaming of this analog car... for the rest of your life? We air-cooled owners dreamed of them until we finally got one. I'll never let go of mine...
Love this content-it’s the first of yours I have found! I have ridden in 911’s but never driven one, I always said I would own one one day-but I’m 75 now and not sure it will ever happen…… I decided recently to take a proper look at a Boxter-I could get in it reasonably easily-getting out with the roof up was a whole different ballgame-for context I broke my left hip 3 years ago which has significantly reduced my mobility. I had the chance to buy a 356 Super 90 back in the late 1960’s when I was at college-couldn’t raise the money unfortunately.
Now that you ‘get’ the Porsche thing you really should try a 356……
Got a 997 and a 986 Boxster - I assure you that when it comes to fun, the Boxster is 100% up to par.
Thank you so much, John!
Interesting review, back in 2005 I test drove a 1980 SC as I’d dreamt of owning a 911 since I was a kid. They were still cheap in those days but even back then it was very much a classic car driving experience which wasn’t what I was looking for. I now own a 996 which I think is a fantastic drive but still feels like a modern sports car. I’ve driven the later 911 models up to the 992.1 and don’t really have any desire to swap my 996 for one. It’d be interesting to revisit an SC now as a comparison…
What a car to come back with! I'm in the same camp, that 996 has left me longingly scrolling through autotrader despite being indifferent beforehand! Great review :)!
Thanks very much, Tag!
Great video, thanks! Spot-on. I was lucky enough to be able to buy an '85 3.2 Carrera from the original owner, who lives nearby, about eight years ago, just as the prices were starting to rise but weren't crazy yet. It was low miles (about 50k) and all original. He bought it in Germany, and had all of the original manuals, etc... On my first test drive before buying it, my thoughts in the first mile or so were "this car isn't for me". I guess it was just too different from what I was used to (mostly older BMW M3's). But in a matter of just ten minutes of driving, I found myself not wanting to bring it back, haha. I'm so glad I bought it, and love driving it. I still want to just keep on driving when I'm in it. In the years I've had it I've addressed any issues it had and made some small but meaningful improvements. It's been very reliable. The steering is of course incredible, and as you said, it's got just about the right amount of power to have fun and at least feel like you're going fast. My wife loves it too. I wish I lived somewhere I could drive it year-round, but it makes Springtime all the more special when we can take it out again.
Thank you very much, much appreciated. And your '85 Carrera sounds like a dream!
Spot on, you just drive a 911 G-series with a big smile on our face. And it’s my third car 😉 So all in all, you just nail it.
Thank you so much!
I had a 911SC for 5 years and it cured me of my lust for air-cooled Porsches. It was nothing but a PIA and very tricky to drive. And at the prices today its laughable.
I love the use of 'cured me of my lust for' hahaha like it was a degenerative disease! I get it though! I weirdly NEEDED to own a Mk3 MX-5 at some point and I'm really glad I scratched that itch!
What a great review of a fantastic car. I own a Boxster and a '97 993 and kinda kick myself for not buying a couple more of the air-cooled Porsches back when they were more affordable! Would love to see a review of a tricked out 993.
There will be a 986 Boxster on the channel soon. Would love to see a 993 too. They have suddenly grown on me.
Thanks so much, pal, I really appreciate it! I am able to review the owner's automatic 993 which I'm very excited about! I think it's also on some decent suspension etc with a nice exhaust, so it should be a corker! That'll be nice and soon!
If you have always wanted one, you will find a way to get one. Having said that I do wish they were a bit cheaper because more car people need to experience these. They are such a different driving experience and I never get tired of mine. If you have never driven one and someone offers you the keys, dont pass up the chance!
Agreed re: always take the chance to drive one!
I completely agree with your conclusion, I had the same dilemma and ended up getting a 997.1 c2 and never regretted.
However I will add the air cooled no matter what, but I'll never sell my 997 - it's just perfect for my taste.
I cannot wait to review a 997.2 C2 very soon actually! Really excited, I went to go and film it but it wouldn't start! The silly immobiliser issue is all sorted and I'll be giving my thoughts soon!
@@petrolpoodle I've just subscribed, looking forward to watching your new video about 997.2. Congrats, that's truly awesome car!!!
Good review - an unusual one, which made it all the more interesting. Next Porsche for you to try should be a Cayman!
Thanks very much, Paul!
I can tease you with a subscribe plea however - I'm going to film a Cayman GT4 in under a month!
I'm over 40 years old and have way more than 168k miles on my odo. That thing's a baby.
This Porsche is fitted with the 915 gearbox, not the best but remember that car is over 40 years old and will most likely drive better than most cars of its day and is still a great drive today. I know as I own a 1987 model and love it every time I take it out.
Ahhhh interesting! This is all very new to me, I appreciate learning the little intricate ins and outs. I absolutely adored driving it, it seems the Porsche light bulb has finally gone on over my head hahaha!
@@petrolpoodle I was bought up on fast ford of the era and nothing can compare to the Porsche 911, maybe understandable due to the prices oh and they both marks rust!!
I had a 911 991.2 type and an old backdated 911SC and ended up cringe SC 9 out 10 times as it was so much more fun and engaging. Sold the 991.2 and still have the SC.
Wow! And those are truly different ends of the spectrum aren't they! Especially given the size of the 991!
Congats on keeping the classic! Sure the 991 was brilliant in its own right though.
Thanks for the hard work, its been very entertaining and well-documented/edited. I absolutely love a 911 sc but realistically cant afford it.... Am quite good at DIY/mechanics tho so maybe i'll grab one in a bad condition and restore it...? Also a 912 is sexy and a little less 'obvious'. But is it as reliable? Dunno
Thank you so much, it's hugely appreciated - I always appreciate it when the rare few recognise the time and effort that goes into it!
Just found this channel - really enjoy your vibe. No bullshit, not trying too hard. Just being yourself and being natural. Surprised you’ve not got a lot more subs!
If you wanted to compare this 911 to another car from the era, I’ve got a v well sorted DeLorean you’d be welcome to take out. (Assuming we’re in the same part of the country!)
I seriously appreciate this comment, it really does give me a boost to put more time into getting more content sorted! Thank you so much.
And I would absolutely love to do that! I'm pinching myself at the idea of even sitting in a Delorean let alone driving one! Madness!
My email address is petrolpoodle@gmail.com, if it doesn't let me share the email then search for me on Instagram and pop me a message :D. Would be brilliant to chat!
My dream car😊 re the last bit about what other car could you use without worry, I've an 83 Mercedes 123 coupe and feel this falls into the same category. Had it nearly 5 years now and it's as sold as a wood burning stove, never even had to top up the oil between changes. The Germans really were special back then.
That's awesome! I love those cars too, big congrats!
I just purchased a '77 911s at the start of '24. You've nailed every aspect of what I love about mine (despite it not being a 3.2). Especially your comment that it just feels fast. You really do have to drive one to understand the obsession.
I bought a one-owner 1977 911S Targa myself 5 months ago. It sat in a garage for the last 20 years without being driven. Still in the process of getting it sorted and haven’t driven it yet. Your post has me excited!
Very good for a first time review and you picked a very good usable example and for a fella whose younger than the car 👍
Thanks very much, Mark!
Yeah I was concerned that I'd risk of me being (initially) unfussed by Porsche as mistakenly seen as an ungrateful youth who doesn't appreciate how lucky they are to drive an iconic piece of history.
I'm just super appreciative I got the opportunity to experience one, the fact I loved it and this video has done brilliantly are just 2 bonuses to that fact!
I’m a rare Porchephile who dislikes the sound of the air cooled 6s. The older 4s were sweet but these sound like a troll gargling gravel.
Love everything else though.
This really made me chuckle!
Haha, you are one in a million Kieran 😂
One of the best cars I’ve ever owned. I still have the 72 911t and love the daily driver 99 996 c4. I’ve had the 72 since 1990 will not part with it for any money.
Great video indeed! Thanks a lot!
Love to see the appreciation growing, on the verge of turning into passion.
Getting into the 911 world through a water-cooled model is an illusion, though. They are worlds apart from any air-cooled 911 and there is no substitute. The G-model does, imho, pair the perfect classic Porsche feeling, especially the pre-86 ones with the classic 915 gearbox (for the true feeling - and yes, it does work fabulously when correctly adjusted) with maximum reliability. I’ve done 20.000km / year in the last 4 years in my 1984 3.2 litre coupé and it’s an outstanding travelling experience. I actually even prefer it over my 987 Boxster.
Hope you’ll get yours and then give us more reports like this!
Much, much appreciated, thank you!
I had a ride in one as a kid and it left a lasting impression on me. It seemed so planted and the acceleration and squirtability gave the impression it could overtake almost anywhere in the shortest of gaps. But like you, I'd baulk at the current price and would probably settle for one of the later models at less than half the price. But if money wasn't the issue then I'd go for any 911 from the early 70s to this model.
Agreed! With no money concerns I'd own one of these SCs alongside a 997.2 manual! Would be happy with pretty much any of the cooking Carrera specs too!
Wow, what a return Jimmy. Glad to see you warming to Porsche, you know 996's are my soft spot, don't buy a Targa though, lol. I think it's time you had a go in my Boxster.
Thanks so much mate and I'm absolutely keen! It'll be my 4th Porsche but most excitingly it's the most affordable one with a fun backstory! Would love to.
Thank you heaps for celebrating the best classic 911 iteration (imho). You're obviously too young to have a comprehensive experience of driving these cars, and you've told some inaccuracies. But your driving description is quite accurate. I've had the two versions of the SC (188 bhp and 204 bhp) as daily drivers, and these were the absolute best 100% analogue 911. It changed completely with the Carrera 3.2 not the SC. I agree with you that these cars are not cheap, however they're only gone up with the overall 911 market and are still, in my opinion, way overlooked compared to a 3.2 for instance. Thanks for this video ! Cheers
Thanks very much, I also really appreciate your understanding of my inaccuracies! It's refreshing compared to some comments on other videos just have people up in arms over the tiniest of details! I appreciate it!
@petrolpoodle6617 I always try to be respectful 🙌 , great job, keep them coming! Cheers 😁
If you must, a 3.0 SC with the updated chain tensioner, the air box flapper install on the CIS box, and a vacuum advance. They are the best hope for a normal guy who wants to keep one on the road.
I love the style, and the feeling of connection with the vehicle, but i do agree that a vintage sports car like this just gets absolutely gapped by a modern day minivan - isn't worth a $75k+ usd price tag.
I bought my 83 in 2011 with ~250k miles from my step-father who bought it in '84. It continues it's life as a daily driver after a engine and trans rebuild, now at ~320k. If I'm selling my 911, something terrible has happened...
That is absolutely incredible!!! 320,000 miles!!! I would like an update when you inevitably get it to half a million please haha!
Very great job man! It could be possible for next driving videos to fix a camera on the pedalbox to film your footwork please? :)
Well done video as usual. Yeah, back to basics has its appeal as well as a price tag suited for this age and era.
Hey John,
Great to see you back! Thanks as always for watching!
What are they like? Noisy, minimal, serious, focussed, fabulous, and very mechanical! :0)
I wish I'd just said this, it would have saved me some time! Beautifully put!
I have a 86 coupe as use it as a 3rd car. Takes me back to my first 83 SC coupe which was my first Porsche. My second is a 2004 Turbo Cab which gives me modern conveniences. My daily is a Tesla Modal Y Performance which gives me all the luxury of a modern fast car! But to be honest, I love my 1991 964 Targa which I miss and hope to get another 964 or 993C2S or C4S.
That's a wonderful 3-car garage!!!
I own a few Porsches- my love of air cooled starts with a 356, a heavily modified 1968 and a 1972 (work in progress😳) then … my favorite, the ‘92 964. It’s the most remarkable car which captures a toe hold in the old and a glimpse of what’s to come; followed by what I would call the great transition 911 which is a ‘96 993 C4 wide body. It goes on from there to a 997.1 Turbo and two 991.2’s (a turbo and a Cab) I’m not beating my chest here, I’m blessed to own these cars. What do I jump in when I want to go somewhere? The 964 or the 993
That was a very enjoyable read! As I'm now new to paying proper attention to 911s I'm actually really enjoying these anecdotal reviews. Congrats on the epic collection!