Here's Everything I Love About My Air-Cooled Porsche 911 -- and Everything I Hate
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Cross-country trip...ok, easy to-do list:
1. If you are unaware of their condition, replace the fuel injection hoses. No need to buy Porsche hoses for $1K+ in total. Buy bulk hose, and crimp with oetiker clamps once everything is in place.
2. Replace reference and speed sensors. Wires get cooked. Don't buy the Porsche ones, get the equivalent BMW ones which are the exact same sensor, slightly different wire length, and 1/2 the cost. I think from a 5-series with Motronic...not sure years. Been a while.
3. Spare DME relay
4. Enjoy your trip.
I've driven these through floods, through floods to the track, tracked it for 4, 20 minute sessions, and back home. They are incredibly reliable, mostly due to simplicity. Enjoy!
Do not do that with fuel hose. The barbs on the hose ends were designed for a plastic lined fuel hose and will cut through any of the modern stuff you can buy at the store. It is a great way to start an engine fire. Many 911s, 944s, and 928s have been lost due to either old fuel lines or incorrectly replace fuel lines.
Jay Tubbs
1. Agree. The lines are only holdning max 2,7 bar pressure. Use quality clamps.
2. Agree. The 635 CSI sensors are about 10 mm longer and cheaper as you said.
3. Agree
4. Oh yes.
Which is why you have to use proper fuel injection spec'd hose. Mine's on 10+ years, and going strong. Plus, I'm guessing the Car Wizard will know how to do it properly. :)
I paid $500 for the set from 944 online. Originals lasted 30 years. You think you can cobble something up that will last as long? Maybe you just can’t afford to own this car, - stick with Toyota’s!
Well, it is back to school week. Look at how cute you are! I looks like you're all set for your first day of trolling Junior College. I'm sure grandma will post a photo of you on her Facebook page. So proud!!!
They are always graduating more doctors and dentists, so there will always be a sellers market for 911's!
Chuck Farley none of the friends of mine that are doctors give a shit about pre 964 Porsches
Jose You've got the logic backwards. If all 911 buyers are doctors, it doesn't mean all doctors buy 911s
Not if Obamacare has anything to do with it.
haha I know you're not serious, but really, I know really few people under 30-35 in the medical field that care about pre-90s 911s.
@@crispindry2815 easy, buddy.
Old 911 are some of the most beautiful cars ever made
Couldn't agree more!
How about you drive your LS-Swapped Porsche to the 70th anniversary. Surely won't trigger Porsche purists.
Forget about the modern sports car. Always remember that you got this car for the nostalgia. The classic look, the engaging driving experience. It has enough power to fully enjoy it on the road. You're a man of many cars, it would not be complete without an air cooled 911. There are many tasteful upgrades to this car to make it faster. You should look into it and shoot a stream of videos about the process and results.
Vincent T. Suggesting another LS swap?
Hell no! That's sacrilege. Use Porsche parts or well known aftermarket parts. Didn't you hear him say he regret LS swapping his other 911?
207 flywheel horsepower in North American trim is enough? I hate to be a RUclips comment nitpicker but that is less than a contemporary Corvette of the era. Oh well, if you fall asleep on the interstate late at night at least the loud ticking valves will wake you up. Hail Satan and bring on the sacrilege, I'd rather drive Apollo 911 with its LS power; I am too much of a "philistine" to enjoy an air-cooled Porsche. It does look pretty good, though.
Your channel is absolute gold. Undeniably entertaining, and fantastic cars. Hoovies Garage is epic!
No random animal walking in background or coming up to you while you did the video? Critter Squad, where you at?!!!
I see a bird in the tree.
What about the guy in the red shirt hiding in the bushes? 🤔
4:19 I am amazed that the engine sound sounds exactly like in the game NFS Porsche Unleashed.
The sound everything about the air cooled Porsche is the fkn sound man
Mike Arredondo that's what people with slow cars say. Convert that slow car to electric pls. Contact EV West.
Lupică you disgust me
you mean ruin the car?
ChillConspiracy i mean give it reliability and some actual performance.
Lupică they are reliable, and they don't need to be fast. If you make them electric, it will ruin everything good about them
You spent $1,000 fixing the a/c and STILL need a new belt? Sounds like the car wizard was "off" that day.
Maybe that's why it's not blowing cold air?
They leak freon from new just by having it seep through the 40 feet of soft lines running throughout the car. Adding a pound per year is fairly normal. Also keep in mind the condenser is right under the main oil cooler and above the engine so it isn't getting cool air to remove heat from the freon to begin with. Adding a remotely mounted condenser would fix the cooling issue. Griffith's sells a kit just because of the sub par performance of the original system.
Looks a little hot in that car. Tyler looks like he just ate some bad chili and can't find a bathroom.
I'm surprised by the red color, it actually looks really nice.
Buy a sharkcard instead
Viking Raiders Yea im a huge fan of the classic Porsche in GTA 5.
Tayton Ousley
Yeah but those fuckers at Rockstar Games couldn't resist fucking it up. I just wanted a clean stock looking one, without a crappy body kit or jacked up ride height.
they did a better job with the porsche than the supra lol I like how the safari looks in white with grey camo
Is it just me, or does this car look just like Hoovie?
I dont think its just you lol
It is a Hoovie.
The '78-'83 and '84-'89 air-cooled 911 engines are known to be very reliable and robust. It is not uncommon for them to easily go 250,000 miles without a rebuild. There are a few things that need to be updated, depending on the year, but with 100k on the clock I'd think those items would have already been taken care of on your car. Drive it, and keep the revs up! They don't like low revs.
Eric Elliott What updates can be done to make the Aircooled the most reliable it can possibly be?
What needs rebuilding after 250k? Rings, valve stem seals?
Basically you replace the cylinders and pistons as a kit then rebuild the crankcase with new bearings and balance the whole assembly. Most of the time people rebuild the heads, or replace them if it is in their budget and the parts are available. Curil K2 is your friend here.
Wow. So its like a true and proper rebuild.
I don't recall all the updates, it is just a few, but off the top of my head, retrofitting a pop-off valve on the airbox, and updating a pre-1984 car with the improved 1984+ cam chain tensioner. As far as a rebuild, the common issues in these years are valve-guide wear, and broken head studs. At the very least, you are looking at a top-end rebuild. Of course, if the engine isn't well-maintained, these things will fail at much lower mileage, along with other things. For example, if you have poor oil cooling (lazy with changing your oil) you'll get spun rod bearings; if you over-rev your engine all the time, you'll get broken rod bolts.
Eric Elliott the 3.2 has no need for any immediate improvements. Only if you see symtoms of a worn engine a rebuild might be at hand. Otherwise, keep a DME relay in the glove box and carry on. No need to talk about the 3.0 engine which is not applicable in this case.
Re clutch: push it with the ball of your foot for more control. And remember that the 915 is a 1-pause-2 shift, pause beingh 1/2s.
we had a 73 at the shop for a few weeks and i drove it quite a bit. Loved that car. All my co-workers wanted to drive the mclarens or the vipers or ferraris etc but I always chose the old 911 - we wrapped cars in vinyl in case anyone was wondering
Mike Dancy you wrap cars in vinyl, but need to drive them all the time?
first ... a few weeks for a wrap ? second.... you drove someone else's car quite a bit ? is that normal shop rules over there ?
Telling everyone that you and the crew drive customer cars isn't a selling point. It's more of a bragging and not cool sort of thing. You hiring? lol I'd want to drive them all, but if I couldn't then I'd love to try one like that.
What was your justification for driving other people's cars to make sure the vinyl wrap didn't fall off while you abuse their cars
Always wanted one. Worked all my life and about ready to retire and still can’t afford to buy this model as you present it. I’m a teacher. Oh well, reality can be painful but it’s free to continue wishing! Right, Hoovie?
Loved the out-takes at the end. Yeah, on my BMW-based channel I'm learning more and more about the value of editing - and how much footage (gigs?) gets left on the cutting room floor...
Tyler, from the look of your clutch I’m willing to bet that your clutch helper spring is broken. In ‘85 the clutches were mechanical and not hydraulic . You’ll feel a world of difference once replaced.
You could change those US bumpers
lukalukic1 stop right there those are good looking bumpers.
Adrian Fellner die sind einfach nur scheußlich um ehrlich zu sein 😂
Bulky safety additions always drive me insane but I have to admit they look pretty damn good on that car. The only part I don't like is the ruffled rubber on the edges of the front bumper, a pretty minor detail.
I like them, they do a better job at dating the car which is good with this car. Plus, an asshole bumping into your parked car may not cause thousands of dollars in damage due to "bumper checking"
i was thinking about rubber part near rear plate
Why does the AC compressor need a new belt when it was just replaced?
bimmer audi blower and compressor aren’t the same thing
0ttoman sure, but we should agree that worn belt was missed.
Tyler, hopefully it won't leave you stranded on your way here to Monterey! And, you definitely won't need your A/C here either, it's staying a comfortable 65 - 70 degrees daily.
Monterey is great right now. It's just everything in between Kansas and there that is stupid hot.
Nice car. To help mitigate the cooling problems one could be creative and go the route of mitigating the cause: Heat. Wrapping the exhaust and insulating the cooling lines/ducts would be a logical place to start. Having an auxiliary engine oil cooler in line with the original would also aid in heat mitigation with the ancillary benefit of protecting the internal engine components from further heat/wear degradation. Using heat insulation in the cab and engine compartment is also another inexpensive way to deal with heat allowing the A/C to function more effectively. There are kits available to spin the engine fan quicker to further enhance engine cooling. Good luck. Thank you.
I love that car. Old 911s are the best! Sounds like it needs a valve adjustment soon though.
That was a good outtake.
It’s worth it, they will ultimately go up from there since the demand will never go away & they no longer make sports cars this pure & simple, I predict prices will continue to soar.
German A/C is crap. Always has been. They just don't *need* A/C in Germany, so it's an afterthought, and it doesn't have anywhere near the quality of other German-engineered systems. (The 1980 Mercedes Benz 240D that I owned had A/C that was added on by a CHEVY DEALER after they'd shipped it to America -- complete with 1980s AC Delco parts!! Talk about an afterthought!) I have had A/C problems with *every single* German car I've ever owned. They all suck. The cars themselves, if you maintain them properly, will run for a very long time. The A/C, not so much.
LMacNeill now that you say that my 03 vw gti has never had working ac past 50k lol good thing I live in Vermont!
If it's always been crap then why did the A/C on my BMW's Mercedes and Porsche's all work great. Please explain.
A little Porsche history for you Hoovie.... The reason the ignition is on the left side is because of its LeMans Racing Heritage. In the early days, at the start of the race, drivers would run to their cars and jump in then go.... Having the ignition on the left meant that you could start the car with your left while putting it in gear with your right. Winning an endurance race is a culmination of small things that add up in the long run....
Lets see Hoovie, My 996 A/C works great, even when it's 110+ degrees here in Vegas. The parts are not that expensive, AND not hard to find.
It's comfy on long drives and works as a daily driver, all the things that my 993, (And my 912), were not.
So now I'm looking for a 997 and will never go back to an air cooled 911. I just hope all the derision from the airheads will keep the prices down.
Get some tint on the windows if you’re concerned about it heating up in the summer!!
I feel ya Tyler I live here in Derby KS and work there in Wichita and when it's over 100° or a day like today it won't keep up until I'm on 235
“These weird things”?? Actually I think every car on the road is weird and Porsche’s are the only normal ones, and I’m not even PORSCHE GUY!!
I must be nuts because I live in Bakersfield, Ca which is actually quite hot and I had the blower disconnected, I believe a Porsche to be a real sport car, should be bare bones, essentially. I like my windows down and sometimes I even open my sun roof. LOL
I’ve been obsessed with porsche. I had a 87, 944... now I have a 97, 986 and I just restored a 72, 2.0 914....... In short I’m a pore man haha. But the hunger will never end till I have the 911. Lol what do you do for a living? I need to do what you do hahaha. Do the work your self 🤤
This is a great looking car, the prefect color for this model, I would love to drive one of this era. Would love to buy one too but... you did great on this one. Have fun with it !
Can you knock it off with the $10k rebuild line? Most oil consumption issues on that car are traced to the valve guides so a full rebuild is almost never done at your mileage. A top end rebuild is still not cheap if you’re having someone else do the work but it’s less than half that.
Build a start stop system with a 20hp electric mo/gen, and a 2kwh battery. Make the motor lock out above 2000rpm since you will have the "i want power again" switch on the throttle.
As always, perfect timing Tyler
Please dont LS this one.
kurtis mon please do
Dreamer Believer hahahaha the power to weight ratio would be crazy
Yes please! It will actually make the car pollute less and it will be more reliable and faster
Wasnt the orange one he drove on here LS modded?
No it sounds too good if hes gonna swap it its gonna have to be a subie engine
Those look like classic and now vintage a/d/s 300i rear deck speakers, made in Wilmington, Massachusetts. That company was responsible for starting out so many car stereo installers on the path to true high fidelity. Not surprising at all to see them in a 911.
People are buying simple cars and trucks. IE 911, Jeep Grand Wagoneer, easy to work on.
Im glad Im not the only one to see that. Its those cars that are going to be the 'last' collector cars I think. Unless you have a dual masters in mechanical and electrical engineering, you really wont be able to restore your 2017 Dodge Demon. There is just so much code that goes into new stuff.
Don't underestimate the next generation though. They're all growing up on computers and ipads. I'm betting in 30 or 40 years, when every "normal" car is loaded with electronics, something like a Demon is going to feel crazy simple to the guy who's been studying computers and engineering since he was 12. I'm sure someone in the 70's was saying the same thing when EFI started emerging, and now here we are. That's just my $.02 tho. I just want to believe that the passion for cars will endure and evolve to overcome the shortfalls of the tech.
Unless companies start putting the driver first and the experience of driving. Cars are becoming more like an appliance something to get you from point A to point B. Taking the driver out of the equation each step of the way.
The problem is that the old cars are designed and made to a standard that REQUIRES a whole lot of maintenance. Once you understand both how a new car operates and how to interrogate or modify it, they are much the same as old cars, the difference lies in parts that are not made to be worked on. Audi is making motors that need to have their crankcase separated to change the cam-belt. The sweet-spot period for car manufacture is the mid 1990's to mid 2000's - modern technologies and quality meets good modern manufacturing. But even those cars will be slowly decaying to the point maintenance just to keep running becomes too frequent.
There have always been "Appliance Cars" though. I doubt very much people are going to, en masse, start feeling nostalgic about Chevettes, Omni's, or Cutlass Ciera's just because they were made during a time that made them easy to fix. Throwaway "point A to point B" driving experiences are nothing new.
Car looks perfect and original, don't change it
King Galfrid ditto
It is repainted (prob in another color) as mentioned, so not really original.
The paint job looks really nice. Hands down better than original.
You paid $40K for a VW Beetle that something heavy fell on - you screwed up. Seriously though, you won't lose money on this one - I might think nostalgia buying is irrational and insane, but it's still a real thing, and any car with the nostalgia value of the air cooled 911 is not going to depreciate unless the global economy tanks (which is always a possibility) or you start modifying it.
The air cooled Porsches were some of the most beautiful sports cars of the time... Or maybe even some of the most beautiful cars, ever, really!
Daddy Dou-
Nvm wrong channel
Let’s do a fan meet up in Kansas City? Whatcha think Hoovie?
It’s a great idea if you like eating by yourself
Only at Freddy’s !!
Next episode: I sold my Air Cooled Porsche
Love the way the car looks at that angle. Why not install an AC from a newer car?
Approx. 200 HP but when that Tach hits 4k, that's when it begins.
I agree 40k is a lot of money for a 40 year old car. My 2017 cost 150k new, but I paid 111k CPO after one year. A 2013 would cost 70k, but that’s still only 5 years old. 911s hold value well and stabilize after 4-5 years, but ‘high mileage’ will certainly crush the resale...don’t care...bought mine to enjoy not save for the next owner.
The summers are brutal basically everywhere, Tyler.
The key is on the left for a reason.
Porsche developed the car for Le Mans. You can run across the track, jump in, start and put the car in first gear all at the same time. Left hand for turning the engine on, right hand for selecting first. Then drive for 24 hours, simple.
I’ve heard this explanation for the key position before, but to me it doesn’t make sense. Saving 3 seconds in a 24 hour race seems pointless. I think it’s there because Porsche designed it that way for ease of manufacturing or cost savings or something along these lines IMHO.
It’s all Porsche tradition and the real benefits get lost over time. Who would persevere with a car with the engine behind the rear wheels anyway?
Tyler, send the heat exhangers & catalytic converter out for Jet Hot 2000 coating and A/C will work noticeably better.....contact me if you'd like more advice on performance, I was head of R&D at Fabspeed Motorsport for years...would be happy to do some exhaust fab for you
You really need to spend some time learning about parts, including sources, Genuine vs OEM vs Aftermarket. That Blower motor is $600 at FCP Euro (Genuine) as well as an Aftermarket brand (made by the same company that makes the Genuine) for $200 less than that! Get educated and pocket the savings!
AC lol.... welcome to Mid 80’s Germany! I spend a lot of time in Germany, they’re not scared of sweating!!!!!!
Get that 3M ceramic window tint, drops temps inside a car big time. My black interior 911 is way cooler now, and the tint isn't that dark.
Watching your video confirmed for me how I made the right decision to sell my 1987 Targa. No matter how cool the car looks, or drives, or sounds, I'm not going to drive around and sweat. In the Midwest or the East Coast, or in Florida, you absolutely have to have air conditioning that works. Otherwise, you're driving around sweaty with the windows open. And on the freeway that's really noisy. As you point out the air conditioning in these cars never worked that well even when the car was new.
Also, when you get out of a 911, and get into a more modern sports car with power steering, you also realize just how much understeer they have engineered into this car. There are cheaper cars that are a lot zippier and frankly just as fun to drive.
It's a car whose best time has past, and times have moved on.
Also, and not insignificant: No airbags. No ABS. No stability control. No power steering. (I guess the latter is good for upper body strength).
Toyota Camry is a good option
We all have our struggles...lol
Tint the windows Tyler. You’ll be a little cooler. I hope the car wizard vacuumed the A/C system down and cleaned the system. An already worn out compressor is not going to do you any justice. Might be time to take the plunge and convert the system over.
An American who pronounces "Porsche" properly. I'm staying!
My grandfather sold his one year Dino for a new 930 Turbo and the Porsche with a lot of turbo lag was way more practical than the Dino.
Uuuuuuuuuuuhm classic european sports cars that are both fun to drive and versatile? Have you sir forgotten about the original audi quattro? 4 seats, awd, later ones have a 20v 5 cylinder turbo, manual trans, etc etc. Id love to see you buy one ;)
Key on the left "because Porsche"? Come on kid, learn a little bit about Porsche history. The key is on the left because LeMans. With the running start a driver could run to the car, jump in and start the car with his left hand and put the car in gear with his right and drive away faster.
There is a cam in the clutch assembly that is the cause of the very abrupt clutch engagement,this was changed to a hydraulic set up in 1987.
Mike Cady what's the best, most, reliable Aircooled Porsche? 1996?
Mike Cady Was that true of all Porsches of the era? My brother has a 944S and the clutch is the exact same. It makes it horrible to drive. At least until you get used to it.
Sounds more like his omega spring is broken if it's that abrupt. Either that or his clutch cable isn't properly adjusted.
Just a good old school car back when that had something to prove
I don’t know, Hoov- the more I think about it, the more I feel like it’s a whole lot of money for not very much. Maybe I need to drive one to ‘get it’...
Foxbody, Hoovie. When will you step into the realm of the true 80s and join us? I know this Porsche is fancy and refined and so forth but it's a little too fancy for your Bleeding Kansas heart. We puff our hair up with Astroglide and drink Jim Beam handles while banging gears in our shitty 5-speeds. You got a taste with the Capri, come and get some. This is rock and roll, GG Allin style. I'm talking war. You put a LS in your Porsche, you can put whatever you want in your Foxbody. There are no rules here.
Nice beetle, reminds me of my 74 super. :)
Fantastically beautiful machine! But why does this have California plates?
drive it as much as you want and don´t worry about the mileage. mileage is overrated in the used car market. if it´s well keept and driven it doesn´t matter so much as most people think. if it will be a true loved looked after car it will go up in value if it is in good condition, mileage is secondary.
midwest winters r brutal not summers!
10:02? Gotta get that ad revenue!
anew742 only 1 ad, not bad at all
The Carrera 4S is perfect for your needs but knowing you, you'd get the cheapest one in the country
Next video Hoovie buys E30 M3.
Lost Soul he already has one rip
Geopou no he doesn't? he has an E36 that he sold
Ben Fillman im a dumbass i didnt realise which m3 the e30 was i dont know my bmws obviously lol. When did he sell it?
Geopou they look nothing alike but yeah he sold it last week
Ben Fillman im really bad with european cars.
Are you referring to the June 9 Porsche event in Monterey in the beginning of the vid? Or is there another one coming up?
doug the type of guy to bring an mr2 to a car meet
Tbh I wouldn't mind, never seen one in a meet
I think you're lost
This car has a reflective suface on the mirror, quirky! -Doug
Karson Barnes tbh i am
I've taken a 1986 chevy Nova hatchback with the base engine to a car show... Actually it was so different everyone loved it...
Nice bug.
Ashish Patel came for a “Bug” comment..... leaving satisfied
you mean, squished bug.
okay but why does he look like an older Alex Moran from BMS????
Beyonce said, "You can walk and talk at the same time......"
LOL
Nice 911 dude.
love the shape of these models, but it could use a bit more horsepower. Maybe u should swap a corvette enginge :P
Lmao! Your delivery in videos is great, honest, down to earth real! So enjoy watching 👍🏻
nigga it was 114 degrees outside yesterday this texas heat always like this
Beautiful car!!!!!
C'mon Hoovie... the Car Wizard used his Wizardry to make all your Google searches show the same price...!
"...it does the car thing very well" 😂
Tiny the windows on that beast, 70% 3M christaline, light tint which won't look weird on an old car but it will keep the car way cooler and make your AC way more effective. Do the windshield too. Thank me later
Looks good
I think you should post another video starting with "Here's why"
Make it electric!*
*Don't.
Pls.
I know.
He should ls swap it.
If he does he could name it Tiger 3, and then it could catch on fire just like it's predecessor.
Upgrade to the 964, trust me it’s worth it
Hey Tyler? Did the 78 Lincoln Continental have a good air conditioner?
Really enjoy your videos sir.......and have learned much from you. Thanks
are you kidding me? porsche not durable? you are kidding , right?
Well Porsche got there name from reliability... so idk wtf this guy is talking about the 3.0 sc 911 motor will run well over 300k miles.. 32 same way...
Tyler what car should i get for about 3-7k i want some thing fun and not to plain
This is only going up in value! 100k in 5-10 years
That first to second gear is hard is shit sometimes gotta be Pristine shifting
For $40K you could've bought a 996 Turbo with a 997 headlight kit.
Why would you want to do that?
Because the 996 Turbo is an awesome machine. 415hp, AWD, incredible reliability.
An S2000 would have been a much better choice and would have been far cheaper overall (minus the need for rear seats). Or you know, you could have just kept that perfectly fine NSX!! :P