The more rare ones are a bit cooler tho, like the VK.30.01 (p) or the VK.45.01 Tiger (p) or the non upgraded version of the Elefant (non Turbo/ non Carrera ?): the Panzerjäger Tiger (p) Ferdinand
YES - more shop interviews PLEASE! Why... b/c many shop owners are the MOST committed and knowledgeable automotive enthusiasts for their respective niche! Cheers! 🤙🤙
Right on the button. My buddies brother called me a while back and asked for advice on a new car. His guns were set on a rotary with 150000 km and no rebuild. Car was 5 grand. I told him over the phone I would bet any money the engine has lost compression. Anyhow he clearly listened to me because he bought it (sarcasm). Then calls me about a check engine light 3 days later. I took it out for a drive and it was a total dog, misfiring at idle etc. lmao, I didn't even know what to say. He ended up paying mazda 3 grand for a new engine. Just stupid honestly.
R A F A that's not saying much... Toyota isn't in the performance cars anymore, Porsche is. And they ARE reliable, handle like a charm, and hella fast.
Cause it's Porsche They legit did everything wrong with their cars( rear engined, Sporty SUVs, making a dailyable sports car at a time that wasn't really possible) and yet made it SO right who the hell doesn't love Porsche?
Somebody has to say something: for whom are rear engine cars "wrong"? It is a stupid thing, what Jeremy Clarkson from Top Gear (before) popularized. The rear engine layout is not wrong! The thing is, it makes the car only "edgier"! There are advantages to other cars, which let Porsche win a lot of races: the weight is all over the rear-axle. That means, there is mostly enough grip to accelerate! The disadvantage is, that it is not as easy predictable to drive (especially earlier models) as your front engine car. However to say, that a rear-engine car is "wrong" would be the same as saying, that a rear-wheel car is wrong (because mostly a front-wheel car is far saver for most people to drive in most situation).
4 reasons: 1. A Beetle on steroids 2. Almost every race Porsche joins they'll always win 3. Sexy styling queue that never gets old 4. Fanbois are sometimes you know?
Squeezing the most out of something that shouldn't be doing that. Is one of the most eye watering sentences I've heard in a while. So much meaning behind it
Porsche's lines are easy to remember and their history are full of great recipes. 1948 - Porsche 356. 1st shape that would become the 911 later on 1964 - Porsche 901. The prototype of the upcoming 911 1964 - Porsche 911. The spawn of all modern 911 1973 - Porsche 911 Carrera RS. Peak of the 911 craze and one of the best air cooled N/A collectible. 1974 - Porsche 930. The spawn of the Porsche Turbo. Aka the "Widowmaker" due to the pendullum effect. 1989 - Facelifted version of the 930. Nothing much has changed. 1994 - Porsche 993. Last air-cooled 911. Spawned the infamous GT2. 1997 - Porsche 996. 1st water-cooled Porsche. Spawned the now famous GT3. Aka "Egg-eyes" due to the headlight looking like an sunny side-up egg. Introduces PDK and CCB. 2005 - Porsche 997. Updated version of the 996. Gone with the egg shape headlights and back to round. Saw the birth of the GT3 and 2 RS and the new 4.0L flat-6 engine. 2012 - Porsche 991. New 911 that uses electronic assisted steering booster. Saw the birth of the legendary 911R 2015 - Porsche 911.2. An updated of the 991 line where turbos will be added to the base Carrera. Different from normal Turbo variant which are 4L, 991.2 Carrera will be 3L and GT3 & 3RS are all still 4L N/A flat-6. That's the most condensed history for all different generations of 911 I can give. I did miss out some important ones like the Targa and such but that would be massively complicated to add in so as much as I can condense into an "Porsche 911 For Dummies" guide, this will be it.
Can't help it when that's how the 911 line really works. If you want an even more comprehensive ones like 944, 928, 924, ALL THOSE RACING PORSCHE, 918, Carrera GT, 914 and such, we're gonna have a long day.
Car guys in 2008: Meh, air-cooleds are just crude souped-up VWs with the engine in the wrong place and bad A/C. No thanks. Cary guys since 2014: Air-cooleds are legendary icons representing visceral purity and soul. BUY BUY BUY BUY
I actually prefer air-cooled 911 instead of the water-cooled ones. I in fact like that bulky shape of the 993 and in fact I prefer that GT2 than the 997 and 991 variant.
Recently purchased a porsche 944 and live it! Would like to get an air cooled 911 some day! Very true about no such thing as a cheap porsche. Purchased my 944 and had the transmission go out 20 mins after buying it... 7k later she is pretty solid now. Its the price you pay though to drive around in a vintage Porsche and I love it.
My first love was Ferrari. However, when looking at history to the present day, Porsche, overall, has become my first love. Their racing heritage, the constant onslaught rivalry they've had with McLaren, Mercedes Benz, Ferrari, and so forth is nothing short of legendary. The driving oriented cars they've released with their GT-2 and GT-3 cars is nothing short of spectacular. Ferrari and Lamborghinis are the cars you like for their looks. Once you've matured, Porsche becomes the sophisticated tasted that you learn to appreciate.
Classic Porsches still look mighty great years later. I’d love one, specifically a 911S but they’re probably going to be über-expensive by the time I finally get the time to enjoy driving
Save up and go for an 80s sc, you can find them in and around 30-50k and with, granted, alot of work, they will last forever (that work is a problem with the engine that of which I cannot remember the exact name of however I know that it can cause your engine to need a complete tear down Fitment Industries did a video on aircooled 911s and they mentioned it there), that said, if you want the truest 911 experience possible that won't kill your wallet so long as you do preventative maintenance and buy one with a good service history there probably nothing better than the 80s sc.
Porsche to me is a marque that once you get bitten you really fall in love with their cars, until that happens you might not "get" what is so special. They have such a rich history and also prove their worth on the race track, its a rare combination. While they branched out to other vehicle concepts to stay economically viable they are always about their sports cars/racing in the end.
I just recently bought a 1985 Porsche 944 and I love the car so much, it’s taught me so much about older cars and about Porsche’s with how amazingly detailed these cars are and how much attention to detail Porsche puts into their vehicles
My father had several Porsches when I was growing up.....a 911, a 912, a Targa. Absolutely loved those cars. What I loved the most about them was the chrome trim, just added that extra little touch of class to that wonderfully understated classic body. Sounded like VW's for obvious reasons, always loved the feeling of solid traction in the rear....but then that edge of flying off dangerously into space in a tight turn. If I was into acquiring classic cars, I'd definitely start with a 70's 911 Targa.
One of the first "cool cars" I can ever remember my dad telling me about was a porsche 911 in british racing green that shot apst us when we were driving home one afternoon. I was like 4 years old and 21 years later I'm still in love
I worked at a shop that did tuning on these back in the day... Simple, light, fast and subtle design changes from model year to model year made for a fast, simple and mechanically optimized ride. They were a blast to drive and the driver did ALL the driving. I was too young to afford one then and not successful enough to afford one now. A shame for me but congrats to those that still have one. Keep ‘em on the road!
There is no particular virtue in an air-cooled engine. What is being sold here is romance, which is perfectly fine if you're buying. "Enthusiasts" arbitrarily select the parts of automotive technological advancement they wish to subscribe to, then invent stories to rationalize their preferences. I've never seen a comment on RUclips or car site forums/comments calling for bringing back the manual starter crank because it's a "more authentic motoring experience." LOL. Fuel injection is 100,000% better than a carburetor. If I buy an older car, I'll mostly embrace the technology it was fitted with at the time of its manufacture. If I'm buying a new car, i want it water-cooled, hermetically sealed, automatic transmission, power-everything. I love cars, and I can appreciate every point in the range. Enjoy what you drive-drive what you enjoy-and don't let anyone make you feel "unwashed" because you don't venerate the same things.
Being the owner of a Porsche 944 turbo that was my Grandfather's, my Dad's, and now mine, this video speaks volumes. The things he says hit very close to home. Well spoken!
I am so sick and tired of hearing about people and their stupid "investment" when it comes to cars. I don't care that I've put $5,000 into a $1,600 car, I love it and I want it to run forever and stay in my hands forever! I ain't selling this thing! What's the "investment"?!?!
"investment" is a term that restoration mechanics like this guy in the video invented to over charge for a regular job.They tell the customer you are investing 5 k into a pile that is worth 2k, but is ok because is an "investment" ... just sales words.
Putting a heap of money into a car you love to keep it running is never a lost cause as long as it's not a frequently repeated repair. If you're putting a new trans in the thing every 30k miles then maybe you should consider driving something else. But regular wear and tear that naturally increases as the car ages, nah, if you love it, take care of it.
Please have more episodes like this. Doing so is not only fun and educational, I think it's a great opportunity to debunk so many myths and misconceptions about certain cars. For example there are shops that specialize in Corvairs. Maybe consider an episode on the controversys, and myths surrounding the Corvair from the viewpoint of a passionate Corvair shop owner.
Because they are entertaining! Drove the 993 to work yesterday and got to listen to that great sound in the back and experience that amazing 993 ride. The car is a companion, not some dead machine you can't feel, or hear. Don't get me started on the 356... If I was only allowed one possession in the world it would be our '58 356A Cab. It is that profound.
4:00 - 4:38 is the exact reason i want to drive a manuel, collect records and want to own super old wild cars. I have never had it said into words more exact then these right here and he is so right!
AE86 is one of the best cars on the world, at least better than any Porsche, at least its not Air Cooled and doesnt have over heating problems... and its much more reliable than any porsche
I hate Porsche's, or I did, I thought they were just quickish sports cars that were just a brand and nothing else. Until last 2 years, when I found the yoshida special and it changed my whole perspective on porsche and now I really appreciate them, saw a fully original 930 yesterday and I thought wow never going to see that again. Great video btw.
Sam yeah the first yoshida special that was in the midnight club was a 930 turbo but was heavily modified and had a twin turbo and could run at 200mph for more than 20 minutes on the yatabate and wangan.
Sam yeah but if the car was never modified then all the different models and different years of porsche would be exactly the same and never change. But each to their own.
Odezy Beckhummice janior iv never heard of that but there are alot of unknown things about the yoshida special 930, the speed hunters article would probably tell you, but I highly doubt it was a turbo from an f1 car simply because street cars had better turbos available and f1 turbos are more complex and most f1 cars were naturally aspirated in the years it took to build it.
I love to hear people talk about the things they are both knowledgeable and passionate about. Even if it's not what I'm into, it's always educational and engaging.
I've always wondered about BMW. Never owned one, only drove an old 325 once. I remember it feeling fun to drive, like I could feel the road. But I've never really gotten into BMW due to cost. That's why I ended up getting into Ford's fox body mustangs. I would like to learn more about them though.
i own a 335i tuned by mosselman and to my opinion its the best car i have ever driven its realy a highway slayer and like you're saying you realy can feel the road i woult recoment trying to find one to test for yourself
Bit late to the video but honestly Porsche’s just hold a special place in Lotta people’s hearts. For me it was the first nice sports car my father ever brought home, I remember him letting me take out my girlfriend in the car and everywhere we go “I love the car, nice ride” ect. It’s elegant, sleek, fast, but it’s not a huge attention grabber. It’s that quite kid in the room who you don’t know is secretly the #1 boxing champ in state. Prior to driving a Porsche I never found the appeal to them, but after experiencing everything these cars stand for, I’m obsessed. And can’t see myself owning any other sport cars as long as I’d gladly own a 911.
You can get it the other way around. The 912 had literally everything except motor and transmission from a 911. So to make a budget 911 to gain interest in the US, seen as the 911 was there only car and expensive, they released the 912. It was the same body, suspension, interior, etc. but the cut costs, slapped in a 1.6l air cooled flat 4 out of a VW and early Porsche 356 with transmission and slashed the cost. It made only 102 horsepower. It outsold the 911 by nearly 100%. It was discontinued after the 911 took off. The 911 remained their only car for a few years until the 914. When they killed the 914, they brought back the 912 for 1976 with a 2.0l air cooled flat 4 out of a VW making a gigantic 88 horsepower. I’m not joking. 88 horses. It was then discontinued for 1977 and replaced with the war crime of a car the 924. Eventually it returned again as the Cayman 718, which was introduced in 2005. Despite not being rear engines like the 912 and 911, it was still heavily inspired by the 912, being a 911 Jr. Interestingly the 718 was a rear engined race car from the 50’s that had been retired for about 45 years when it returned.
I have a 1980 911 SC targa and it is oil and air cooled. I would run from Orange County to Vegas and it never heated up with the AC on and 2 people in the car at high speeds .. even up the Baker grade in the 120 degrees weather!!!AWESOME!!!!!
Porsche was for a while the people's affordable super car. But not anymore, gone are the days where you could get a G model or even a 964 for around 15 grand. Porsche nowadays is slowly going from the people's car to the elite's car, like Ferrari or Lamborghini. A 200.000 mile 964 Carrera 2 is now 50 grand, that's out of reach for most enthusiasts.
Carreras, boxers, macans are all affordable cars. 911 deserves to be an elite car along with gts trims, those are no joke super vehicles that lead their class and are what everyone else tries to copy. The panamera is like the odd one out, expensive in every trim, is it an S class rival?, rs7 rival?, gt4 lusso rival even though it is a 2 door? One of a kind car? Idk
I really like you guys, but... "Are they reliable?" SERIOUSLY?! Also, that poor Porsche enthusiast who has to deal with all those hipsters who have never driven a real car. I feel sorry for him.
Jeff Lio That's one way to look at it. But if you have a real passion for something it just hurts to see someone buy one of those without even knowing what it is, let alone appreciating it. It's just another car to them, and they only buy it because other people find it cool. It will either get wrecked, because they don't care about it, or locked away and not be driven at all to increase value, because they don't care about it.
Donut Media I know, sorry. You made it very clear in the video that you don't know anything about Porsche. And it's ok to ask questions. It's just...that...it hurts sometimes. 😁 When you know a thing or two about Porsche, and have been a fan of the brand for years, such beginner level questions from a car enthusiast are baffling. No hard feelings, though. 🤘
I fell in love with the whale tale wing as a young teen. There was one down the street from the skatepark i rode and i would stare at it every time i went by. Just such a simple, pure automobile. It comes back to the day where people built vehicles to be driven, maintained, and loved.
Get one. Keep it well maintained and it will pay for itself. Unless it catches on fire, you will make your money back when you sell it. You get to drive a dream car for free! How many cars can you say that about?
@@victimology7761 i wouldnt say free. sure if you have it throughout your life it will save you money eventually being far better value than lots of other cars hehe. Tho cars arent everything in life, despite how epic porsche is.
When I was 15 a 911 owner let me drive his car around a parking lot and we talked a little. I don't remember much of our conversation, but after thanking him profusely, he said "Don't worry kid, you seem like you have a bright future. It won't be the last time you drive a Porsche." ever since then I've been a Porsche fan. It's on my bucket list to joy ride in an air cooled 911, and I hope to one day own a manual 911 GTS or GT3
love it baby. love watching the growth! All the content you guys have been putting out is responsible for getting me back into cars again. You guys and the mighty car mods. matter fact you should do a collab with them. #cheers
We love it for the sound, playful rear end, the rawness of a car designed in older pure car design philosophies, such as very connected steering feel, playful chassis, oil smells, hearing every mechanical part, feeling one with the car and being connected with it. We love the charisma of the car, the fashionable looks, also the nostalgia. The older air cooled cars also reminds us of how car design philosophies and laws / norms have changed (to me for the worse, and I'd imagine for many driving enthusiasts as well). Cars are soft, big, easy, heavy, and becoming less and less playful. The air-cooled 911s screams an era of the past and defies all such boring philosophies and reminds us what driving should be all about. PS It is NOT for picking up chicks. As matter of fact, the interior carpets smell like shit and reminds you of your old grandma's piss bucket crib with big old red carpet smells (oh...Just my grandma?)
I love Porsche. I always had Mercedes when growing up, but always wanted a Porsche. The cars have something special to them...So much character, and so great to drive. I would never take anything else.
I usually just LOVE all this videos, but I found this one not to be thorough enough. Singer is a good way of falling in love with the old analog, air cooled 911 for those who doubt the 911 as a whole concept.
I recently just got a Boxster 986 and I absolutely love it! Its a timeless design and it quite or mean depending on how you feel that day Its a design I absolutely love, and i plan on keeping it for my children and grandchildren so they can experience it too My next goal is to get an old 911
Alex Strömberg Well "real ones" cost min. 30k for a SC in shitty condition. A 924 (which still is a very classy and good looking car in my opinion) costs 5k for one with a few flaws and 10-15k for one thats A+.
DarkIzo Yea, it wasn’t angled towards you. I was sort of agreeing with you ;) We never pronounce it like ”Porch” in Sweden, we know the car comes from our brothers in the south hahah
I view the Porsche community with admiration and a little bit of envy. The thought of refitting and/or restoring old Porsche cars is noble. I'm afraid though that the prices are becoming ginormous. Soon, mere enthusiasts will be forced out of the Porsche ownership market. I work and live on the road so I make do with BMW M2. It's the closest thing I suppose to the ethos.
John knows his shit and he taught me a few things when I was a kid, people don’t mistake this info as just talk. These cars are worth it. I spent my life on them as well and have the coolest cars on the planet now. And as safe an investment as a house!
2:00 Daimler is not pronounced Damler. It's pronounced like Dime-ler, like a dime if you need more reference. Not pronounced DAM-ler, not DAME-ler, DIME-ler. But this channel also pronounces kei cars as key cars, so it's like talking to a brick wall.
When I was a kid, Porsche was already a very distinct type of car for me. I could confuse other sports cars, but not Porsche. But they became my favorite sports cars after Need for Speed Porsche was released. Still one of the best games I ever played, and it contributed a lot for my knowledge of the cars and really consolidate my taste. When I got the chance to drive a sports car in that Exotic Driving Experience in US, I immediately chose the Porsche 911 among all other cars (Ferraris, Lamborghinis, and the GTR). One of the best days ever in my life. If I ever can afford such type of car, I will certainly buy some Porsche.
I personally like a few specific Porsches, like the Panzerjäger VI Tiger (p) Elefant and the Panzerkampfwagen VIII Maus
Oh my god xD
Lmao
Excellent taste
The real classics 👌
The more rare ones are a bit cooler tho, like the VK.30.01 (p) or the VK.45.01 Tiger (p) or the non upgraded version of the Elefant (non Turbo/ non Carrera ?): the Panzerjäger Tiger (p) Ferdinand
YES - more shop interviews PLEASE! Why... b/c many shop owners are the MOST committed and knowledgeable automotive enthusiasts for their respective niche! Cheers! 🤙🤙
SubaruONLY garbage overrated cars
2:55 "lack of maintenance and understanding the machine"
Sounds like a rotary owner.
Infernuz lol
Yeap hahah
Well a Wankel engine is an German engine lmao.
It's true with almost all high performance cars.
Right on the button.
My buddies brother called me a while back and asked for advice on a new car. His guns were set on a rotary with 150000 km and no rebuild. Car was 5 grand.
I told him over the phone I would bet any money the engine has lost compression.
Anyhow he clearly listened to me because he bought it (sarcasm). Then calls me about a check engine light 3 days later.
I took it out for a drive and it was a total dog, misfiring at idle etc. lmao, I didn't even know what to say. He ended up paying mazda 3 grand for a new engine. Just stupid honestly.
Heritage, looks, handling, reliability, speed
Reliability? AHHAHAHAHAHA NICE ONE
no they arent, not even close to toyota
R A F A that's not saying much... Toyota isn't in the performance cars anymore, Porsche is. And they ARE reliable, handle like a charm, and hella fast.
R A F A bringing up Japanese cars in a conversation about reliability that has nothing to do with them says a lot about your intelligence.
Chicken Feed babe You dont learn much stuff about cars from games. That says it all.
Cause it's Porsche
They legit did everything wrong with their cars( rear engined, Sporty SUVs, making a dailyable sports car at a time that wasn't really possible) and yet made it SO right
who the hell doesn't love Porsche?
Yeshwant Dasari I don 't love Porsche...
Agree with everything, except BMW put the sports in SUV first.
Love Porsche ...saving for my first and hopefully not my last
@@charleschenhua but the supercharged cayenne whips any beamer
Somebody has to say something: for whom are rear engine cars "wrong"? It is a stupid thing, what Jeremy Clarkson from Top Gear (before) popularized.
The rear engine layout is not wrong! The thing is, it makes the car only "edgier"!
There are advantages to other cars, which let Porsche win a lot of races: the weight is all over the rear-axle. That means, there is mostly enough grip to accelerate!
The disadvantage is, that it is not as easy predictable to drive (especially earlier models) as your front engine car. However to say, that a rear-engine car is "wrong" would be the same as saying, that a rear-wheel car is wrong (because mostly a front-wheel car is far saver for most people to drive in most situation).
4 reasons:
1. A Beetle on steroids
2. Almost every race Porsche joins they'll always win
3. Sexy styling queue that never gets old
4. Fanbois are sometimes you know?
This in 4 reasons why i hate porshe
The design isn't sext its old.
Ethan Lundeen timeless design
styling is similar to pinup girls, never gets old but .....
Philip Fox 2.0 and faster than a lambo
Squeezing the most out of something that shouldn't be doing that. Is one of the most eye watering sentences I've heard in a while. So much meaning behind it
Porsche's lines are easy to remember and their history are full of great recipes.
1948 - Porsche 356. 1st shape that would become the 911 later on
1964 - Porsche 901. The prototype of the upcoming 911
1964 - Porsche 911. The spawn of all modern 911
1973 - Porsche 911 Carrera RS. Peak of the 911 craze and one of the best air cooled N/A collectible.
1974 - Porsche 930. The spawn of the Porsche Turbo. Aka the "Widowmaker" due to the pendullum effect.
1989 - Facelifted version of the 930. Nothing much has changed.
1994 - Porsche 993. Last air-cooled 911. Spawned the infamous GT2.
1997 - Porsche 996. 1st water-cooled Porsche. Spawned the now famous GT3. Aka "Egg-eyes" due to the headlight looking like an sunny side-up egg. Introduces PDK and CCB.
2005 - Porsche 997. Updated version of the 996. Gone with the egg shape headlights and back to round. Saw the birth of the GT3 and 2 RS and the new 4.0L flat-6 engine.
2012 - Porsche 991. New 911 that uses electronic assisted steering booster. Saw the birth of the legendary 911R
2015 - Porsche 911.2. An updated of the 991 line where turbos will be added to the base Carrera. Different from normal Turbo variant which are 4L, 991.2 Carrera will be 3L and GT3 & 3RS are all still 4L N/A flat-6.
That's the most condensed history for all different generations of 911 I can give. I did miss out some important ones like the Targa and such but that would be massively complicated to add in so as much as I can condense into an "Porsche 911 For Dummies" guide, this will be it.
Jun Kitami Still pretty complicated.
Can't help it when that's how the 911 line really works. If you want an even more comprehensive ones like 944, 928, 924, ALL THOSE RACING PORSCHE, 918, Carrera GT, 914 and such, we're gonna have a long day.
Jun Kitami Guess I'll just have to consult me ol' friend wikipedia.
You forgot the speedster and the 2012 911 GT3 RS 4.0, and GT2 Rs
As long as you mentioned the "930" and Widowmaker nickname I'm satisfied. My favorite model of the 911 variants personally.
Car guys in 2008: Meh, air-cooleds are just crude souped-up VWs with the engine in the wrong place and bad A/C. No thanks.
Cary guys since 2014: Air-cooleds are legendary icons representing visceral purity and soul. BUY BUY BUY BUY
Probably all the RUclips car channels started this broom of various car cultures
LifeSizePotato Oi LifeSize, are there any new videos of you coming up?
I actually prefer air-cooled 911 instead of the water-cooled ones. I in fact like that bulky shape of the 993 and in fact I prefer that GT2 than the 997 and 991 variant.
The 997.2 GT3 RS is a very nice car as well
by a car guys on the 2014 till present you mean hipsters?
Porsche is like that one athlete in the NFL that’s so good that you get tired of praising. Because you know they’ll produce every season.
I love porsche is because of its Targa top and That legendary Air cooled Flat-six engine!!
The Targa is fcking sick!! Beautiful car
1.theyre easy to reckonize
2.theyre fun
3.they have timeless design
*recognize
Boring design
Recently purchased a porsche 944 and live it! Would like to get an air cooled 911 some day! Very true about no such thing as a cheap porsche. Purchased my 944 and had the transmission go out 20 mins after buying it... 7k later she is pretty solid now. Its the price you pay though to drive around in a vintage Porsche and I love it.
My first love was Ferrari. However, when looking at history to the present day, Porsche, overall, has become my first love. Their racing heritage, the constant onslaught
rivalry they've had with McLaren, Mercedes Benz, Ferrari, and so forth is nothing short of legendary. The driving oriented cars they've released with their GT-2 and GT-3
cars is nothing short of spectacular. Ferrari and Lamborghinis are the cars you like for their looks. Once you've matured, Porsche becomes the sophisticated tasted that you learn to appreciate.
Agree 100%.
💯
Classic Porsches still look mighty great years later.
I’d love one, specifically a 911S but they’re probably going to be über-expensive by the time I finally get the time to enjoy driving
Vintage 911S can go as low as 50K , i wont call it expensive
Save up and go for an 80s sc, you can find them in and around 30-50k and with, granted, alot of work, they will last forever (that work is a problem with the engine that of which I cannot remember the exact name of however I know that it can cause your engine to need a complete tear down Fitment Industries did a video on aircooled 911s and they mentioned it there), that said, if you want the truest 911 experience possible that won't kill your wallet so long as you do preventative maintenance and buy one with a good service history there probably nothing better than the 80s sc.
Porsche to me is a marque that once you get bitten you really fall in love with their cars, until that happens you might not "get" what is so special. They have such a rich history and also prove their worth on the race track, its a rare combination. While they branched out to other vehicle concepts to stay economically viable they are always about their sports cars/racing in the end.
I just recently bought a 1985 Porsche 944 and I love the car so much, it’s taught me so much about older cars and about Porsche’s with how amazingly detailed these cars are and how much attention to detail Porsche puts into their vehicles
My father had several Porsches when I was growing up.....a 911, a 912, a Targa. Absolutely loved those cars. What I loved the most about them was the chrome trim, just added that extra little touch of class to that wonderfully understated classic body. Sounded like VW's for obvious reasons, always loved the feeling of solid traction in the rear....but then that edge of flying off dangerously into space in a tight turn. If I was into acquiring classic cars, I'd definitely start with a 70's 911 Targa.
One of the first "cool cars" I can ever remember my dad telling me about was a porsche 911 in british racing green that shot apst us when we were driving home one afternoon. I was like 4 years old and 21 years later I'm still in love
I worked at a shop that did tuning on these back in the day... Simple, light, fast and subtle design changes from model year to model year made for a fast, simple and mechanically optimized ride. They were a blast to drive and the driver did ALL the driving. I was too young to afford one then and not successful enough to afford one now. A shame for me but congrats to those that still have one. Keep ‘em on the road!
There is no particular virtue in an air-cooled engine. What is being sold here is romance, which is perfectly fine if you're buying. "Enthusiasts" arbitrarily select the parts of automotive technological advancement they wish to subscribe to, then invent stories to rationalize their preferences. I've never seen a comment on RUclips or car site forums/comments calling for bringing back the manual starter crank because it's a "more authentic motoring experience." LOL. Fuel injection is 100,000% better than a carburetor.
If I buy an older car, I'll mostly embrace the technology it was fitted with at the time of its manufacture. If I'm buying a new car, i want it water-cooled, hermetically sealed, automatic transmission, power-everything. I love cars, and I can appreciate every point in the range. Enjoy what you drive-drive what you enjoy-and don't let anyone make you feel "unwashed" because you don't venerate the same things.
Ahh, this comment was like a bucket of ice cold water to the face
But I agree
Being the owner of a Porsche 944 turbo that was my Grandfather's, my Dad's, and now mine, this video speaks volumes. The things he says hit very close to home. Well spoken!
I am so sick and tired of hearing about people and their stupid "investment" when it comes to cars. I don't care that I've put $5,000 into a $1,600 car, I love it and I want it to run forever and stay in my hands forever! I ain't selling this thing! What's the "investment"?!?!
"investment" is a term that restoration mechanics like this guy in the video invented to over charge for a regular job.They tell the customer you are investing 5 k into a pile that is worth 2k, but is ok because is an "investment" ... just sales words.
Pouring a 100K into a Nissan 240SX isnt a investment , its a loss cost
Putting a heap of money into a car you love to keep it running is never a lost cause as long as it's not a frequently repeated repair. If you're putting a new trans in the thing every 30k miles then maybe you should consider driving something else. But regular wear and tear that naturally increases as the car ages, nah, if you love it, take care of it.
Well said brother
If it was LS swapped , it will run forever , most japanese engines dont last very long
Please have more episodes like this. Doing so is not only fun and educational, I think it's a great opportunity to debunk so many myths and misconceptions about certain cars. For example there are shops that specialize in Corvairs. Maybe consider an episode on the controversys, and myths surrounding the Corvair from the viewpoint of a passionate Corvair shop owner.
Up to speed on holden plz
hsv cars
Because they are entertaining! Drove the 993 to work yesterday and got to listen to that great sound in the back and experience that amazing 993 ride. The car is a companion, not some dead machine you can't feel, or hear. Don't get me started on the 356... If I was only allowed one possession in the world it would be our '58 356A Cab. It is that profound.
The 911 is the best sports car ever.
not the best but the most complete, definately...
Thomás Carlotto No.
not even close lmao
There is no best sports car ever. Case closed.
Never ever repeat what you just said in Arabic inside an Airplane. You don't want to know what happens next
4:00 - 4:38 is the exact reason i want to drive a manuel, collect records and want to own super old wild cars. I have never had it said into words more exact then these right here and he is so right!
Every1 loves Porsche for its wining race heritage every1 loves winners
No, fuck porsche, toyota is better
I own an AE86 and fuck you
AE86 is one of the best cars on the world, at least better than any Porsche, at least its not Air Cooled and doesnt have over heating problems... and its much more reliable than any porsche
It's nowhere close to one of the best cars, and what is your reasons for it being one of the best cars?
all u can say is it's better, no Air Cooled porshe has any over heating problems like most lambo v12's and the c7 z06 vets.
Love this format of episodes, can't wait to see more shops like this !
I hate Porsche's, or I did, I thought they were just quickish sports cars that were just a brand and nothing else. Until last 2 years, when I found the yoshida special and it changed my whole perspective on porsche and now I really appreciate them, saw a fully original 930 yesterday and I thought wow never going to see that again. Great video btw.
Sam yeah the first yoshida special that was in the midnight club was a 930 turbo but was heavily modified and had a twin turbo and could run at 200mph for more than 20 minutes on the yatabate and wangan.
Sam yeah but if the car was never modified then all the different models and different years of porsche would be exactly the same and never change. But each to their own.
Johny Oxley I thought that 930 had a single turbo from a McLaren MP4/4? I dont know how the fuck he got a F1 turbo, but I read it somewhere.
I smell the Blackbird nearby
Odezy Beckhummice janior iv never heard of that but there are alot of unknown things about the yoshida special 930, the speed hunters article would probably tell you, but I highly doubt it was a turbo from an f1 car simply because street cars had better turbos available and f1 turbos are more complex and most f1 cars were naturally aspirated in the years it took to build it.
I love it how John's passion with Porsches just overflows every time he speaks.
I love to hear people talk about the things they are both knowledgeable and passionate about. Even if it's not what I'm into, it's always educational and engaging.
Nolan can you go 2 Dinan for some BMW love
Mike Arredondo yes please do american people also have mosselman? thats also a bmw thing
I've always wondered about BMW. Never owned one, only drove an old 325 once. I remember it feeling fun to drive, like I could feel the road. But I've never really gotten into BMW due to cost. That's why I ended up getting into Ford's fox body mustangs. I would like to learn more about them though.
i own a 335i tuned by mosselman and to my opinion its the best car i have ever driven its realy a highway slayer and like you're saying you realy can feel the road i woult recoment trying to find one to test for yourself
jurian kwist i swear i own a 323i and even its not much but the handling is legendary
Gabriel St-Amour yess it sure is and the sound tho😍
Bit late to the video but honestly Porsche’s just hold a special place in Lotta people’s hearts. For me it was the first nice sports car my father ever brought home, I remember him letting me take out my girlfriend in the car and everywhere we go “I love the car, nice ride” ect. It’s elegant, sleek, fast, but it’s not a huge attention grabber. It’s that quite kid in the room who you don’t know is secretly the #1 boxing champ in state. Prior to driving a Porsche I never found the appeal to them, but after experiencing everything these cars stand for, I’m obsessed. And can’t see myself owning any other sport cars as long as I’d gladly own a 911.
I would like a VW Beetle with an air-cooled Porsche engine.
Claudio Bizama Well the original Bettle had an engine built by Porcshe... just without the power of one :/
Its called the 911.
Bunch of those around, just google it mate. Just try searching Käfer Carrera and Super Beetle.
You can get it the other way around. The 912 had literally everything except motor and transmission from a 911. So to make a budget 911 to gain interest in the US, seen as the 911 was there only car and expensive, they released the 912. It was the same body, suspension, interior, etc. but the cut costs, slapped in a 1.6l air cooled flat 4 out of a VW and early Porsche 356 with transmission and slashed the cost. It made only 102 horsepower. It outsold the 911 by nearly 100%. It was discontinued after the 911 took off. The 911 remained their only car for a few years until the 914. When they killed the 914, they brought back the 912 for 1976 with a 2.0l air cooled flat 4 out of a VW making a gigantic 88 horsepower. I’m not joking. 88 horses. It was then discontinued for 1977 and replaced with the war crime of a car the 924. Eventually it returned again as the Cayman 718, which was introduced in 2005. Despite not being rear engines like the 912 and 911, it was still heavily inspired by the 912, being a 911 Jr. Interestingly the 718 was a rear engined race car from the 50’s that had been retired for about 45 years when it returned.
@@truantray Lmao this got me, thanks :D
I love the last part the guy said! He is right on point about not cheaping out. Do it the right way instead of the cheap way.
5:10 It's Luftgekühlt* ;)
Mario Subasic Media
Or Luftkylt =D
I have a 1980 911 SC targa and it is oil and air cooled. I would run from Orange County to Vegas and it never heated up with the AC on and 2 people in the car at high speeds .. even up the Baker grade in the 120 degrees weather!!!AWESOME!!!!!
Yeah, not sure why they are referred to as 'air cooled'. They're pretty much oil cooled. Yours has A/C? congrats, man!!
I have a Porsche too...
Its a 1972 T2 campervan,
Boxer engine : check
German : check
Round headlights : check
air cooled: check?
based on beetle: check
Engine power 50hp : check ??
t2 That's a nice van
First car I ever drove was my dads air cooled 946. I have been obsessed ever since.
Porsche was for a while the people's affordable super car. But not anymore, gone are the days where you could get a G model or even a 964 for around 15 grand. Porsche nowadays is slowly going from the people's car to the elite's car, like Ferrari or Lamborghini. A 200.000 mile 964 Carrera 2 is now 50 grand, that's out of reach for most enthusiasts.
is still affordable but not in air cooled, now 6k euro for '99 boxster 160k km that mean 100miles
Mateusz Zimon That's the cost for trying to set the benchmark in the automotive world.
The price of a shiny new Porsche 911 3.8RS can get you 2 but 3 911 GT3 RS lol
Carreras, boxers, macans are all affordable cars. 911 deserves to be an elite car along with gts trims, those are no joke super vehicles that lead their class and are what everyone else tries to copy. The panamera is like the odd one out, expensive in every trim, is it an S class rival?, rs7 rival?, gt4 lusso rival even though it is a 2 door? One of a kind car? Idk
Bryan White i had no idea wat the Panemera is all about , its just weird in everyway
Keep these videos coming. I actually enjoy talking to these super knowledgeable enthusiasts almost as much as I enjoy driving.
up to speed - Holden please!!!!!
This was probably my favorite wheelhouse episode yet, definitely more episodes like this! Keep up the great work I love the channel!
I really like you guys, but...
"Are they reliable?"
SERIOUSLY?!
Also, that poor Porsche enthusiast who has to deal with all those hipsters who have never driven a real car. I feel sorry for him.
Hey man I was genuinely curious
Why would you feel sorry for him? That's his fucking job. That's how he makes money. If there weren't those people, he would be fixing Prius.
Jeff Lio
That's one way to look at it.
But if you have a real passion for something it just hurts to see someone buy one of those without even knowing what it is, let alone appreciating it.
It's just another car to them, and they only buy it because other people find it cool. It will either get wrecked, because they don't care about it, or locked away and not be driven at all to increase value, because they don't care about it.
Donut Media
I know, sorry. You made it very clear in the video that you don't know anything about Porsche. And it's ok to ask questions.
It's just...that...it hurts sometimes. 😁
When you know a thing or two about Porsche, and have been a fan of the brand for years, such beginner level questions from a car enthusiast are baffling. No hard feelings, though. 🤘
I know where you are coming from, but you can't be so elitist about it, bro. Even the most hardcore enthusiast is just a newbie fan at some point.
I fell in love with the whale tale wing as a young teen. There was one down the street from the skatepark i rode and i would stare at it every time i went by. Just such a simple, pure automobile. It comes back to the day where people built vehicles to be driven, maintained, and loved.
In this life, or the next one.. when i get rich, i will buy one for sure :)
What if you dont
Better make it happen on THIS run...Next round isn’t a certainty /Hella unknown realm...#GodSpeed ✨🎅🏿👍🏿✨
Get one. Keep it well maintained and it will pay for itself. Unless it catches on fire, you will make your money back when you sell it. You get to drive a dream car for free! How many cars can you say that about?
@@victimology7761 i wouldnt say free. sure if you have it throughout your life it will save you money eventually being far better value than lots of other cars hehe. Tho cars arent everything in life, despite how epic porsche is.
My uncle owns a 2016 Porsche Cayman S, I get to see and hear it like daily. Beautiful
As a proud owner of a 1985 Porsche 911 Targa I can say, it’s one of the most easiest things to love in the world
Kind of like the old carrera GT
When I was 15 a 911 owner let me drive his car around a parking lot and we talked a little. I don't remember much of our conversation, but after thanking him profusely, he said "Don't worry kid, you seem like you have a bright future. It won't be the last time you drive a Porsche." ever since then I've been a Porsche fan. It's on my bucket list to joy ride in an air cooled 911, and I hope to one day own a manual 911 GTS or GT3
its called "luftgekühlt" or "luftgekuehlt" not "luftgekuhlt" :) great video
I personally was waiting for a comment about RWB when I clicked on this.Rough World Begriff is what is increasing the craze of Old Porsche
Did that guy essentially say that hipsters are a good thing?
mastafixa no.
yes, that's what he said
love it baby. love watching the growth! All the content you guys have been putting out is responsible for getting me back into cars again. You guys and the mighty car mods. matter fact you should do a collab with them. #cheers
Luftgekühlt!
ist echt so
From the first day I saw the 911's shape I was in love, it's a dream to own one some day. Just a great example of beautiful German engineering.
We love it for the sound, playful rear end, the rawness of a car designed in older pure car design philosophies, such as very connected steering feel, playful chassis, oil smells, hearing every mechanical part, feeling one with the car and being connected with it. We love the charisma of the car, the fashionable looks, also the nostalgia. The older air cooled cars also reminds us of how car design philosophies and laws / norms have changed (to me for the worse, and I'd imagine for many driving enthusiasts as well). Cars are soft, big, easy, heavy, and becoming less and less playful. The air-cooled 911s screams an era of the past and defies all such boring philosophies and reminds us what driving should be all about.
PS It is NOT for picking up chicks. As matter of fact, the interior carpets smell like shit and reminds you of your old grandma's piss bucket crib with big old red carpet smells (oh...Just my grandma?)
They won't get you beautiful women, but they definitely don't hurt either.
I love Porsche. I always had Mercedes when growing up, but always wanted a Porsche. The cars have something special to them...So much character, and so great to drive. I would never take anything else.
#Porschelovesters
I usually just LOVE all this videos, but I found this one not to be thorough enough. Singer is a good way of falling in love with the old analog, air cooled 911 for those who doubt the 911 as a whole concept.
I don't think Jeremy likes beetles...
Cuz he kept losing to it
Awesome video, The shop atmosphere, short history lesson, personal conversation and questions, where excellent. Wheelhouse is where it's at.
"Porsches are reliable"
* Spends 10 minutes explaining the need for constant maintenance and expense*
Most reliable brand out there
@@roachstj1 Most reliable German brand*
Very informative commercial guys. Like most of your episodes now. Got to do what ya gotta do. I remain subscribed.
Let's see what "people" have to say about the Porsche Mission E Taycan Cross Tourismo!
The Taycan looks pretty good
I rather have a pet Toucan instead
I recently just got a Boxster 986 and I absolutely love it! Its a timeless design and it quite or mean depending on how you feel that day
Its a design I absolutely love, and i plan on keeping it for my children and grandchildren so they can experience it too
My next goal is to get an old 911
They forgot about the 944’s 968’s and 928’s?
aren't those Porsches for people who don't like Porsche? Like why would you get a Porsche that isn't rear engine?
just get a real one.
944s are basically a german RX7
928s had too many electrical problems , fed up with them yrs ago
Alex Strömberg Well "real ones" cost min. 30k for a SC in shitty condition. A 924 (which still is a very classy and good looking car in my opinion) costs 5k for one with a few flaws and 10-15k for one thats A+.
and? costs to be on top.
The best about an air-cooled engine is the unmuffled sound.
Me with crown vics
The tune of this episode is fantastic. Nice episode.
why people love Porsche?they are Chick magnets
if you're driving an air cooled you're going to have a bunch of middle aged men interested and not a lot of chicks, my dude haha
Payam yazdi cringe
*MID LIFE CRISIS*
L O Fucking L. That is not on the list as a reason for 100% air cool drivers.
Payam yazdi honestly most girls don’t know the difference between an 80’s camaro or a Porsche, it’s the guys that are passionate about it that care
For me in late 2016, I was learning about wide bodies and throw a forum I learnt about nakai
Visit Singer next.
300K Porsche 911S is a bit too much
Good questions. Very insightful guys. Top 10 episode for me.
Porsche knowledge lacking? Could we have a tour of the cave you've been living in?
I absolutely loved this video. Pls do more shop interviews!
Wow 1 Dislike, That person havent even finished the whole vid
Axlerated Z must've been that one person that wanted an LS on the Porche 🤣
I dig your episodes so much, they are right up my alley and now I am getting more and more into cars, so thanks for yet another video!
porch
porsche
DarkIzo
It’s pronounced Porsche, not Porch.
It’s German not French.
Porsh-a
J Gripen
saw that no one mentioned it so i had to spark this conversation
ps: im german
DarkIzo
Yea, it wasn’t angled towards you. I was sort of agreeing with you ;)
We never pronounce it like ”Porch” in Sweden, we know the car comes from our brothers in the south hahah
J Gripen Porsch is just short for Porsche, so people dont have to use two syllables.
One of the best videos from Donut yet
The porsche is meant to be the best sports car ever (in my opinoin)
Azra 02 uve got the point..... "Meant to be"
And it is.
WheelHouse became better than Everithing you need to know.
I really enjoy it !!!
I had to reread the title, thought it said
White People Love Porsche
Black humour, lol
I view the Porsche community with admiration and a little bit of envy. The thought of refitting and/or restoring old Porsche cars is noble. I'm afraid though that the prices are becoming ginormous. Soon, mere enthusiasts will be forced out of the Porsche ownership market. I work and live on the road so I make do with BMW M2. It's the closest thing I suppose to the ethos.
Not sure I enjoy the big words flashing across the screen every few seconds.
Uriah Siner You must be new to Donut media...
Really just terrible and awful. Really distracts from the content.
Hmm... I disagree. That's their style. But opinions :)
Tbh, I didn't even realized they were texts until I read your conment. Sub-conscious mind at work huh?
Yep. And that was my first and LAST video I watched from them, only because of those flashing words across the middle of a shot. Thanks, no more.
John knows his shit and he taught me a few things when I was a kid, people don’t mistake this info as just talk. These cars are worth it. I spent my life on them as well and have the coolest cars on the planet now. And as safe an investment as a house!
Go to Alfaholics and get your mind blown :)
From that point on RWB made me love the 964
LS swap the Porsche
There is an LS swapped Porsche somewhere, its wrong on so many levels
How to ruin a Porsche
How about no.
No not literally everything thats criminal and LS is only for tuner
there is an ls swapped 996 Carrera. Supposedly it was the cheapest 991 in all of America ahhahah. And I know there is an rwb 964 that was LS swapped
YES YES YES!!! This is an awesome video just like everything else you guys do.... Keep them coming and I'll keep supporting.
Flat nose
My favorite thing about Porsches has to be the sound when changing gears and on downshift...SO GOOD
2:00 Daimler is not pronounced Damler.
It's pronounced like Dime-ler, like a dime if you need more reference.
Not pronounced DAM-ler, not DAME-ler, DIME-ler.
But this channel also pronounces kei cars as key cars, so it's like talking to a brick wall.
LotusRaptos ok
Dame-ler
When I was a kid, Porsche was already a very distinct type of car for me. I could confuse other sports cars, but not Porsche. But they became my favorite sports cars after Need for Speed Porsche was released. Still one of the best games I ever played, and it contributed a lot for my knowledge of the cars and really consolidate my taste. When I got the chance to drive a sports car in that Exotic Driving Experience in US, I immediately chose the Porsche 911 among all other cars (Ferraris, Lamborghinis, and the GTR). One of the best days ever in my life. If I ever can afford such type of car, I will certainly buy some Porsche.
Up to speed on Hennessy performance
That's dope. Though it's not just porches, it's all older analog engines and cars. LONG LIVE THE CARBURETOR
People who like porsches are the same people who think a 328i is a luxury sports car smh
You mean 328CI , its slightly better than a box standard Boxster
Charlotte Dunois i know what i said
Sounds like you've never driven one. They'll change your mind.
YES MORE SHOPS LIKE THIS!... now can you guys visit the RE-Amemiya shop? pretty pleeeaasee
I Hate porsche
Who hates Porsche lol , Porsche will burn Mercedes all day if they join F1 it’s over for AMG.
III BMW III if BMW come back to F1 they will destroyed by kubica XD
Of course you do, you play Fortnite
Mr. GDM what!? What an idiot who’s even talking about BMW? Don’t bring BMW up.
III BMW III just joke