I had 265/75/16 KO2s and loved them and went 285s on my first gen Tundra. Now that I have a new 2023 on order I'm convinced that 275/70/17 is the unspoken hero and a great middle of the road tire. 🤙🤙 Beautiful truck!
Chloe, you are amazing. Thank you for making me love my '22 trd offroad Tacoma more than I did when I bought it.. a feat I didn't think possible till watching many of your videos. Keep it up!
I have not made the switch yet... I have however been talking to a couple people who did. (one drives a 2018 TRD OR (same model as mine) With no lift I am told they had very rare rubbing, but these are overlanders, not rock crawlers. gogoy, 2x4? I do not even know how much clearance you would have... I have not owned a 2 wheel drive in maybe 15 years now, and that was my first ford ranger. busted knuckles, my own plan for my 2018 is when the tires wear down, I am going non lifted with the 255s, if I have rubbing trouble I will be going OME myself (the old fashioned lift kit not that BP51 or whatever it is called) until I can afford fox shocks with deaver rear leafs. That would add 2 inches, which as I understand it would be plenty for an overland or light trail truck, but insufficient for something meant to do twisty trails. From my research into it, 3" is probably the ideal case, but the lift kits get a LOT more pricy at that mark. The OME lift kit was my plan before I even had the trick in my driveway, then Chloe got me lusting after that fox suspension :) (I have to admit, the Fox IS a better suspension (in both function and appearance) than the OME, but comes at around 3+ times the price). But with closing down my business during covid and everything else the budget is not looking forward to replacing 5 tires, AND doing a lift, so I am now looking at doing it in stages. Still as I said above. The skinnies are said by several driving them to be good with no lift unless you push the flexing too far. They will give you just shy of 1.5" actual ground clearance increase. With no lift they will still tub when under compression, especially if turning, but not as badly as wider tires do. The 285/75r16 are 32.8" and 11.2" wide while the 285/75r17 are 33.8. The 255/85/16 sit between the two at 33.1 (with some brands measuring in at 33.4) they are also approximately 10" wide and run on stock wheels, though those method wheels Chloe got with their bead grip technology are GREAT, they are not my aesthetic choice, but have functional advantages. Still hard on the budget at $300+ each (not as bad as some wheels I have looked at... Have you priced Hutchenson DOT approved beadlocks lately??? ) Size wise, the 285 are better in loose sand because they have better flotation, while the 255s are better in snow as they dig down better. In mud, the narrower tires are a mixed bag depending on the trail conditions. If it is mud on a firm bottom, the 255 has the advantage, but if it is mud that has been churned deep they will not help you at all. On rock, it is mixed, but the wider tires will often help due to larger contact patch, but I have seen more wide tires die to side wall damage than I have seen skinnies. The 255s also win in fuel economy as they have 10" less width and a smaller contact patch. This can also be detrimental when stopping on wet roads. Since my useage profile is daily driver, overlander, and mild trail rider, they make sense for me. oh and you won't get a ticket for your tires sticking out too far unlike some 285s I have seen :D
@@mattlewandowski73 I too am going with the original OME lift, the BP-51 looks nice but I would do Fox/deaver if I wanted to spend that much. I do off-road my truck but it’s not often and it’s usually pretty slow and steady as I don’t want to tear up a brand new rig. I was looking into the 255’s primarily for the run that 285s have. I’m still unsure if I need the full 33 and might just go with a nice set of 265/75/16. The last overland trip I went on I was completely stock and my friends 19 TRD was stock except BFG all terrains in 265/75 and both of us had no real issues following friends that had 3-4” lifts and 33-35” tires on their jeeps. The biggest issue was clearance and break over on the steep trails, but with some spotting and good lines it was all doable. For being stock and completing the trail loop we did at AOAA I was sold that a 2” lift with even a 32”ish tire would make the Tacoma twice as good off-road. Thank you for the reply and sorry to hear about Covid affecting your business, a lot of that over the past year.
Excellent videos Cloe. Thanks very much. I’ve never owned one. But here at 61, I am about to get in my very own 2022 Tacoma Trail edition. Ordered it back in October 2021, and am expecting delivery of it in about two to three weeks, fingers crossed . I am sure I’ll be installing wing-mirror turn signals and the license plate glare reduction tabs. Excellent videos. Please keep up the good work. Thanks again.
One thing I looked at before I got my 285’s was the weight. I got a 285/70/17 ridge grappler in a Passenger load which is a 4ply Weighing 49lbs each vs a 10ply weighing much more. I strictly drive on road so I really only upgraded for looks.
I have a 2019 Toyota Tacoma I have those tires on mine they don’t make that much noise I have different wheels but I did go to 17 for the same reason love the style love the look I wish I could load up a picture of my truck so you could see it you’re doing a great job I like seeing your videos
Love the Method wheels, and the BFG tires look great. One thing that jumps out to me in the video is the hood gap at the right fender. I know the truck was hit so maybe that is a result of that damage. Then again maybe a little adjustment could make that look a little better. Not criticizing, just an observation. Keep doing what you’re doing! Enjoy the content.
@@subradiant_music my understanding is she bought the truck as a salvage title, so it was totaled and she repaired the damage to put it back on the road.
Timely video! I get my Tacoma in the next few weeks. For now I'm thinking I'll go with 275's (Falken Wild Peak AT3W in C Load) to have a happy middle ground between on and off-road performance. That and I don't want to do a suspension lift until a little ways down the road. 🤔
Are you getting a Pro? Keep in mind the Pro is slightly lifted from the factory. Other factors include wheel width and offset. For non-Pro, 265/70/17 or 265/75/16 are typically the biggest you can get without making other changes.
I have the 22 trd off road im thinking about changing my rims and tires what will fit without doing a lot of cutting or will I need to do some cutting.
This was a really helpful video as I am in the process of building out a 2022 Tacoma and trying to figure out the right balance between stock (since its a daily driver) and off-road. Thanks -
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥let go!!!! Chloe your truck looks amazing I love the upgrade you did on your truck 🛻 keep up the awesome work everybody let get this channel to 100k subscribers🎊🍾🎉 I believe that we can do it💪🏾😎💯
Chloe, watch a video of a semi tire being changed. Big burly mechanics I've known use a crow/pry bar to prop the tire up onto the axle, then use the bar to spin the tire to align the lugs - all while sitting on a mechanic's roller stool. Also, I didn't know Method had that bead 'locking' tech. To be clear, that's a stock TRD Pro suspension with a preload collar alone + zero offset wheels?? I'll look back through your vids for other suspension upgrades on this truck just in case. Thanks so much for giving a clear, articulate rundown on all this stuff - that's the ivy coming out. ;)
Chloe, You might consider an OV Tune for your Taco (or both of them). Had my Taco tuned in May of 2021, world of difference. They can also adjust the tune for tire size and gearing if you do that. Not only are you dealing with more mass to get going, you also have to consider the effects on your brakes. I upgraded to PowerStop pads and rotors.
I had 285s on. Took them off after 2 weeks. Mileage went up 3.5 L per 100km which was brutal. Performed amazing (toyo open country) but can’t validate keeping them for my type of driving. I also have ovtune so mileage went I’m a bit too.
If they suit you and they perform where you live that's awesome 👍 but personally, I wouldn't want to go wider than stock, not where I live with the terrain we have and especially not with the lil power that I have... I did go one inch taller though.
I have the exact same tires on my 2019 Tacoma. I didn't remove the black plastic piece that is under the front bumper, so occasionally the tires will rub when I have the wheels cranked and am hitting a bump at the same time. Otherwise I like these tires and agree with your assessment regarding gas mileage etc.
Huuummmmm? Makes me wonder about changing 285's I have a manual tire changer from HF Lifting 265/65/17 is about my nice limit Have 285/75/16 as well on a tacoma with 3 inch lift
Great Video! I’ve got 285 Nitto grapplers on my ‘19 sport with a 23/4” leveling kit. I am just a mall crawler at the moment and would love to get out on a trail.
I just put 285/70/17’s on my 2022 trd pro with the stock setup - (1.5” lift in front and .5” block in rear). Minor rubbing in full lock and reverse. I did some plastic trimming and obviously removed the mudflaps and so far so good. No cab mount chop needed.
Yessir! I put LT255/80R-17 E-rated Toyo AT3's on my Jeep and they are awesome. Screw paying money for aftermarket wheels when the factory one's fit right and are engineered for the vehicle (my 17" Moab wheels look really good on my 2020 Willys Jeep). Pizza cutter's are the way to go, and I hope more of us Jeep and Toyota guys find that out. We need sidewalls to air down, not to mall crawl with wide treads. Peace! Pete - KI7LIL (HAM radio callsign, monitoring 146.520 in Phoenix, AZ, and D-star Reflector 004C while mobile and traveling).
Chloe thanks for the video as im fixing to add 285s on my new Tacoma . Only issue is...did you notice your lower A Arm bushings are out? Those lower A Arms were all over the place. Just dont want it leave you on the trial
This might have been covered in the 175 comments, if so my apologies. I have basically the same set up, just with AEV salta wheels. Curious how to interpret my stock mpg screen readout. I'm usually showing 20.6 mpgs on 60 mph back roads to work, running about 1500 rpms. When I run interstates at 75 plus mph I get a 16ish mpg readout on screen. My speedo is about 3 mph off so I'm actually going 3 mph faster than displayed speed. That part I have figured out but the mpgs not so much. I feel I'm getting better mileage but haven't yet did the pump fill up math. I'm more interested on how the stock running mpg calculator is gathering it's data. Like, where is it located and how does it work. Great videos Chloe, very inspirational young lady.
unless you’re gunna start doing tuning mods and cutting some stuff for clearance, 275 is the way the go slightly bigger, i’ve never rubbed off roading, and you might lose a little power but it’s marginal
I upgraded to 285/75R16 a few months ago and it DEFFINANTLY impacted my mpg and power. Put on 33" Mickey thompson Baja Boss tires on Method 701s. Its a very heavy setup.
@@JC-wz9mc its complicated. Ive added more upgrades than just the tires both before and after the tires. At the time, I believe my MPG dropped from 18 to 15-16. That may also incorperate the lift added to accept those tires, (2.5" icon stage 2, with add a leaf in rear) or also by the extra weight of the baja boss tires themselves vs a lighter 33" tire.
@@jaranus597 that’s a nice lift! Thanks for the reply. I ordered 275’s and wish I had gone with a 285. It’s mostly a daily driver but love the look of the 285.
A retune can help with the power loss, primarily as it will remap your shift points. Regearing IS appropriate to the nearly 10% increase in diameter that going from factory to 33" gives you, but it is not "cheap". Additionally the larger tires have a noticeable effect on articulation (particularly up front) where 285's are known to produce noticeable rubbing (mostly during steering under compression) even on moderately lifted (1-2") vehicles, do to the combination of larger diameter and wider stance.
I normally recommend skipping the retune right away and just re-gearing. I did just a tune on my wrangler and all it caused was more issues. Put less pressure on the driveline and re gear. do it once, Do it right. then if you feel like you want a tune after do it. Keep in mind though I was going from a 31 to a 315/75r16 (34.6 In)
I have a 2" lift running 285s and have never experienced any rubbing on or offroad. I do admit to never driving hard offroad where it might cause serious compression of the suspension tho.
I have 285 ko2 tires on my 2018 trd off road and I get roughly 16mpg in city and 18-19 on highway, it’s not the worst but it does make a bigger difference in the amount of power you feel you get, I am looking to get a tuner to make it feel like I’m getting somewhat the same power and see if it helps my mpg a little
I have a white 2014 tacoma with a 6-inch lift and 285's that looks exactly like this truck. I LOVE it, yeah the 4.0 V6 with 285's aint getting me more than 15.1 miles per gallon but man they don't feel bumps at all 😂👌
I love the 33's on my new Tacoma. However, its not just the size you have to be careful about but the load rating and weight too. Some mud tires will weigh 60 lbs or more at that same size and will be very loud on the highway.
Thanks for the insider pricing. It saved me $100s over suggested price. Basically got the 5th wheel for free with change back 🙂Went with MR703 17" and Falken AT/4w 10ply over the KO2s
I have 285/75/16 General grabber on my ‘18 TRD OR. With a tune for 33” and stock gears I’m getting 19.5 mpg but also have rock sliders. Get it tuned and you’ll get the mpg and power back!
First video of yours I’ve seen. I lifted my ‘16 2” but stayed with the 265 KO2s and experienced a loss in gas mileage. Combined I’m around 17. Great info! Those C rated 285s are the lightest LTs I’ve seen. Definitely considering them! Thanks!!
Cool video. Good information. I have a gen 2 trd pro. I've watched a few of your videos. One question I have is what is that jack you are using? looks sweet. I think I want one! lol.
Great video, Chloe. Curious as to whether your spare is also a 285, and if so, does it fit in the spare location ok? Also, just ordered some parts from Sparks and used your discount code. Thanks!
285 do not fit from what ive read before(without modification). You have to take a big hammer and bend the metal retainers out some and I think some possible issues with being to close to the exhaust.
Thanks for this informative video. Believe I might settle in the happy medium of 275s for when I upgrade tire size. So I am assuming that with a 2" lift in the front and 1" in the rear - there should be no rubbing issues?
I upgraded my 21' Taco TRD Off-Road 4x4 with a 20"x9" inch Fuel wheel with the 275x55x20 KO2's by BF Goodrich on a 3" Rough Country lift with the Vertex adjustable coil overs on the front & the Vertex adjustable shocks on the rear with the 2" lift heavy duty Old Man Emu leaf springs & I don't really hear an excessively loud road noise while driving. I installed the EVC Ultimate 9 throttle controller & I don't have any problem accelerating with the oversized tires especially when it set on U9. My gas mileage on the other hand is another thing, I get around 11mpg in the city & a combined of 14mpg as of the last tank of gas I used, but the look is amazing. I have done a lot of extra mods that I probably would not have thought of if it weren't for Chloe's channel. Thank you Chloe & keep up the good work.
285's looks so awesome on our tacos, wish it was it came factory, with the proper mods to to compliment that size I noticed in the 33 second mark on the video, when the suspension is cycling, there is lots of play in the bushing of the lower control arm.......? That truck is looking great, keep up the great work
Chloe, I noticed your dash gauges showed 344 miles to empty. I have the same tacoma, but with a 6' bed. How are you getting that many miles on a tank of gas? Did you get a tune installed? If so, do you contribute the increase in gas mileage to the tune? Great vids. Thanks!
I do a fuel system cleaning every oil change, and tire rotation at the 5K mile mark. My dealership gave us a lifetime oil change but Toyota recommends that the oil change is every 10K miles, but I still change it every 5K miles, so I have to pay for every other oil change. After I supply the oil and filter the change itself is $40. Our Toyota dealership uses Mobile 1 full synthetic oil, so that’s what I’ll stay with. I personally prefer Valvoline full synthetic but I don’t like changing oil brands.
Chloe, awesome video. I am curious, with only lifting the front end, did the suspension settle enough to where the trucks level is even? Or did you have to make some adjustments?
Not C-Load rated but when I searched around the 2 lightest tires I found in the 285/75/16 size are the Bridgestone AT Revos and the Firestone Destination ATs . Both weigh in at 51lbs, the same as those C-Load BFGs.
BFG KM3 255/85-16 E. Tall and skinny "pizza cutters!" I have never been a huge fan of wide tires on trucks though. Especially if you live in an area that sees significant snowfall. It just depends on your environment.
Jeff, I have to agree... right down to tire choice. Those same 255s are the tire I plan on replacing my stock tires with when they wear out. IMO they are a better choice for my environment, BUT it depends on what you drive and where. In the southwest where she is at, the wider tires give good traction on the rocks. They have different terrain than say someone like me out in East Tennessee, or you do in your apparent more northerly climate. Many people seem to forget that 255s are an option, as many people look at the first number (the width of the tire) and assume larger number means bigger tire diameter, which profile for profile it does, but they then have to get lower profile ratio. They sacrifice MPG due to higher rolling resistance, and they get increased road noise for a given tread pattern... Though they do get more stopping power (tire for tire) and better floatation (often, but not always a good thing). The one I cannot understand is these full size guys getting 20" rims for their 35" tires. It is like putting rubber bands on... I have seen a LOT of rim damage on trucks out here because they wanted the big wheels, and they cannot air down much if any without trashing the rims on every rock.
Hrm do I need a lift on my TRD off-road 4x4 stock to upsize the tires? Was planning to keep the stock with winter/snow tires for ski season and swap to a summer pair.
This question is off topic for tires, its about you rebuilding the vehicle. Where you able to find and buy factory painted fenders? or did you have to have the fenders paint matched, and how did the paint turn out. Any recommendation on getting new fenders, ie: supply source or tips on paint.
Hey Chloe! I am unsure if this has been answered before but I wanted to ask if you might consider tuning your truck. I've been on the fence of tuning my truck due to California requirements for smog. Most folks claim they will pass emissions but my truck hasn't exceed 6k miles yet. Great content!
I run 285 70 R 17 KO2s on my 21 Offroad. Made it a little bit doggy and downshift more My speedo also reads under by about 3mph. I changed to TRDPro wheels because I hated the 16" wheels that came with it. Makes the lifted Tacoma look much better.
Speedometer requires a hypertec calibration that requires you to take your dash out to insert that thing. Jsut to tell you your 2-4 miles off at 70ish.
Great info as always.. I’m taking a road trip out to Westcott Designs next month. I have a 23 OR.. Going with Bilstein 6112/5160 and the Westcott preload collar for a total lift of 3” up front. Icon RXT leaf pack in the rear. 22-23 TRD Pro wheels (+4 offset) with 285/75/r16 Toyo AT3’s. Only thing I don’t like is the E rating on the Toyo’s. Not a lot of C load options in a 16” whee”. I think Falken might have one. Either way I really like the Pro Wheels and the Toyo’s so heavy it is. Keep up the great content!
I have a 2019 Tacoma SR5 2WD ,putting a Bilstein level kit on it ,up grading tires/wheels to LT275 All TerrainT/A KO2 W/method race Wheels 307 hole,17x 8.5 , do you see any issues with that set up?
Love this look! But how in the world are you getting 22 MPG combined before? I have an 2021 SR5 Trail Edition, with less aggressive tires, and the wind splitter up front, and I drive it like a grandpa, and I can barely pull off 18 to 19 MPG average.
Good morning Dear Chloe, I like your performance “enthusiasm and very professional In your explanation”, I feel sure with your content. My question is I have Toyota Tacoma 2021. I want to change for 295 or 305 Al terrain 70/r16 , I believe than I have to leaf 3 inches. And can I use the same suspension. 2) what to you do if this is your truck to looks great, feel comfortable and safe money in the upgrade
The wheels I’ve been looking at for my 4Runner are -12. I know that negative offset puts more stress on bearings and suspension components but to what extent? Is a -12 really gonna cause that many issues?
Hi Chloe, I have Toyota Tacoma 2021 off road, I replace my tire 285x 70xr17, and also I put levelling kit, my problem every time I park my taco ,I can hear sound, but there is no rubbings don't know were sound coming from. I hope you can give me idea,.
My brother passed away and left me a 2016 tacoma off road , he watched your videos , now im watching , good info thanks !
I had 265/75/16 KO2s and loved them and went 285s on my first gen Tundra. Now that I have a new 2023 on order I'm convinced that 275/70/17 is the unspoken hero and a great middle of the road tire. 🤙🤙 Beautiful truck!
you still running a stock suspension/lift and getting 275's? tell me how they are and if you experience any rubbage
cheers!
Just got my falken wildpeak 275/70/17s. Can’t wait to put them on my Tacoma. Wish more tire companies made a 275
@@JC-wz9mc that’s too heavy
Toyo 275 less weight
Chloe, you are amazing. Thank you for making me love my '22 trd offroad Tacoma more than I did when I bought it.. a feat I didn't think possible till watching many of your videos. Keep it up!
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I am partial to "skinny" 255/85r16 KM3s for use here in East Tennessee... 33" tires that do not need as much modification to run.
i have a 2020 sr 2x4 stock tacoma and looking for the same size at your set up. any rubbing or need to lift? thanks
Did you have any rubbing issues with the 255/85/16? That’s what I’m looking at going to on my 21’ TRD off-road, with OME lift
I have not made the switch yet... I have however been talking to a couple people who did. (one drives a 2018 TRD OR (same model as mine) With no lift I am told they had very rare rubbing, but these are overlanders, not rock crawlers.
gogoy, 2x4? I do not even know how much clearance you would have... I have not owned a 2 wheel drive in maybe 15 years now, and that was my first ford ranger.
busted knuckles, my own plan for my 2018 is when the tires wear down, I am going non lifted with the 255s, if I have rubbing trouble I will be going OME myself (the old fashioned lift kit not that BP51 or whatever it is called) until I can afford fox shocks with deaver rear leafs. That would add 2 inches, which as I understand it would be plenty for an overland or light trail truck, but insufficient for something meant to do twisty trails. From my research into it, 3" is probably the ideal case, but the lift kits get a LOT more pricy at that mark. The OME lift kit was my plan before I even had the trick in my driveway, then Chloe got me lusting after that fox suspension :) (I have to admit, the Fox IS a better suspension (in both function and appearance) than the OME, but comes at around 3+ times the price). But with closing down my business during covid and everything else the budget is not looking forward to replacing 5 tires, AND doing a lift, so I am now looking at doing it in stages.
Still as I said above. The skinnies are said by several driving them to be good with no lift unless you push the flexing too far. They will give you just shy of 1.5" actual ground clearance increase. With no lift they will still tub when under compression, especially if turning, but not as badly as wider tires do.
The 285/75r16 are 32.8" and 11.2" wide while the 285/75r17 are 33.8. The 255/85/16 sit between the two at 33.1 (with some brands measuring in at 33.4) they are also approximately 10" wide and run on stock wheels, though those method wheels Chloe got with their bead grip technology are GREAT, they are not my aesthetic choice, but have functional advantages. Still hard on the budget at $300+ each (not as bad as some wheels I have looked at... Have you priced Hutchenson DOT approved beadlocks lately??? )
Size wise, the 285 are better in loose sand because they have better flotation, while the 255s are better in snow as they dig down better. In mud, the narrower tires are a mixed bag depending on the trail conditions. If it is mud on a firm bottom, the 255 has the advantage, but if it is mud that has been churned deep they will not help you at all. On rock, it is mixed, but the wider tires will often help due to larger contact patch, but I have seen more wide tires die to side wall damage than I have seen skinnies. The 255s also win in fuel economy as they have 10" less width and a smaller contact patch. This can also be detrimental when stopping on wet roads. Since my useage profile is daily driver, overlander, and mild trail rider, they make sense for me.
oh and you won't get a ticket for your tires sticking out too far unlike some 285s I have seen :D
@@mattlewandowski73 I too am going with the original OME lift, the BP-51 looks nice but I would do Fox/deaver if I wanted to spend that much. I do off-road my truck but it’s not often and it’s usually pretty slow and steady as I don’t want to tear up a brand new rig. I was looking into the 255’s primarily for the run that 285s have. I’m still unsure if I need the full 33 and might just go with a nice set of 265/75/16. The last overland trip I went on I was completely stock and my friends 19 TRD was stock except BFG all terrains in 265/75 and both of us had no real issues following friends that had 3-4” lifts and 33-35” tires on their jeeps. The biggest issue was clearance and break over on the steep trails, but with some spotting and good lines it was all doable. For being stock and completing the trail loop we did at AOAA I was sold that a 2” lift with even a 32”ish tire would make the Tacoma twice as good off-road. Thank you for the reply and sorry to hear about Covid affecting your business, a lot of that over the past year.
I'm doing the same. 4runner with 255/80 17 love pizza cutters and the saving in weight with the $$ saved by using the TRD wheels are a bonus.
It looks so much better. I love the wheels' great choice. If anyone is worried about gas mileage, don't buy a truck or suv.🙃
Man, nearly every time you put a video out I get reminded of how much I love that I stumbled across your channel.
Excellent videos Cloe. Thanks very much. I’ve never owned one. But here at 61, I am about to get in my very own 2022 Tacoma Trail edition. Ordered it back in October 2021, and am expecting delivery of it in about two to three weeks, fingers crossed .
I am sure I’ll be installing wing-mirror turn signals and the license plate glare reduction tabs. Excellent videos. Please keep up the good work. Thanks again.
One thing I looked at before I got my 285’s was the weight. I got a 285/70/17 ridge grappler in a Passenger load which is a 4ply Weighing 49lbs each vs a 10ply weighing much more. I strictly drive on road so I really only upgraded for looks.
I'm getting the 285/65/18 grapplers ...Should I get the 70's? There's only a 1/2 in height to my knowledge...What do you think?
I have a 2019 Toyota Tacoma I have those tires on mine they don’t make that much noise I have different wheels but I did go to 17 for the same reason love the style love the look I wish I could load up a picture of my truck so you could see it you’re doing a great job I like seeing your videos
Love the Method wheels, and the BFG tires look great.
One thing that jumps out to me in the video is the hood gap at the right fender. I know the truck was hit so maybe that is a result of that damage. Then again maybe a little adjustment could make that look a little better.
Not criticizing, just an observation. Keep doing what you’re doing! Enjoy the content.
I noticed the same... :-) ..... BUT I"M NOT THROWING STONES... The truck looks great.
Yup noticed clear as day. It's too bad they didn't total it and just give her the total worth of the truck for her to get a new one
@@subradiant_music my understanding is she bought the truck as a salvage title, so it was totaled and she repaired the damage to put it back on the road.
Timely video! I get my Tacoma in the next few weeks. For now I'm thinking I'll go with 275's (Falken Wild Peak AT3W in C Load) to have a happy middle ground between on and off-road performance. That and I don't want to do a suspension lift until a little ways down the road. 🤔
I think that’s a great compromise! I have never tried the AT3Ws although I’ve heard great things. Btw, can’t wait for your Tacoma vids!
Are you getting a Pro? Keep in mind the Pro is slightly lifted from the factory. Other factors include wheel width and offset. For non-Pro, 265/70/17 or 265/75/16 are typically the biggest you can get without making other changes.
Same here! Getting a 22 TRP Pro with manual transmission! :)
I have the Falkens in that size on my 4Runner. They're a great tire
I have the 22 trd off road im thinking about changing my rims and tires what will fit without doing a lot of cutting or will I need to do some cutting.
This was a really helpful video as I am in the process of building out a 2022 Tacoma and trying to figure out the right balance between stock (since its a daily driver) and off-road. Thanks -
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥let go!!!! Chloe your truck looks amazing I love the upgrade you did on your truck 🛻 keep up the awesome work everybody let get this channel to 100k subscribers🎊🍾🎉 I believe that we can do it💪🏾😎💯
Chloe, watch a video of a semi tire being changed. Big burly mechanics I've known use a crow/pry bar to prop the tire up onto the axle, then use the bar to spin the tire to align the lugs - all while sitting on a mechanic's roller stool. Also, I didn't know Method had that bead 'locking' tech. To be clear, that's a stock TRD Pro suspension with a preload collar alone + zero offset wheels?? I'll look back through your vids for other suspension upgrades on this truck just in case. Thanks so much for giving a clear, articulate rundown on all this stuff - that's the ivy coming out. ;)
Chloe, You might consider an OV Tune for your Taco (or both of them). Had my Taco tuned in May of 2021, world of difference. They can also adjust the tune for tire size and gearing if you do that. Not only are you dealing with more mass to get going, you also have to consider the effects on your brakes. I upgraded to PowerStop pads and rotors.
KDMAX PRO WAY BETTER!!!!
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I had 285s on. Took them off after 2 weeks. Mileage went up 3.5 L per 100km which was brutal. Performed amazing (toyo open country) but can’t validate keeping them for my type of driving. I also have ovtune so mileage went I’m a bit too.
I dont even have a tacoma i have a raptor but I still enjoyed watching this, like all of your videos!
I have the same Methods and same titanium gloss color on my f150 and it looks boss with my white truck. Good choice Chloe.
If they suit you and they perform where you live that's awesome 👍 but personally, I wouldn't want to go wider than stock, not where I live with the terrain we have and especially not with the lil power that I have... I did go one inch taller though.
Why state "285" it means very little with out the rest of the dimensions. 285 is only the section width.
Thank you. This annoys me every time I hear it and even more that I had to scroll this far down to find someone acknowledge it.
Just started following your channel, thanks for all the extra info Chloe!
I have the exact same tires on my 2019 Tacoma. I didn't remove the black plastic piece that is under the front bumper, so occasionally the tires will rub when I have the wheels cranked and am hitting a bump at the same time. Otherwise I like these tires and agree with your assessment regarding gas mileage etc.
If you had negative offset with a 1.5 inch lift would you rub?? 🤔
Huuummmmm? Makes me wonder about changing 285's
I have a manual tire changer from HF
Lifting 265/65/17 is about my nice limit
Have 285/75/16 as well on a tacoma with 3 inch lift
great video. just put these same tires on last week. love them
Great Video! I’ve got 285 Nitto grapplers on my ‘19 sport with a 23/4” leveling kit. I am just a mall crawler at the moment and would love to get out on a trail.
Do you have the 285/70's or 65's?
We should start an organization to salvage Tacomas. Call it ‘The Save a taco Foundation’. I’d be all about that.
I just put 285/70/17’s on my 2022 trd pro with the stock setup - (1.5” lift in front and .5” block in rear). Minor rubbing in full lock and reverse. I did some plastic trimming and obviously removed the mudflaps and so far so good. No cab mount chop needed.
I went 255/80/17 and they're a dream!
Yessir! I put LT255/80R-17 E-rated Toyo AT3's on my Jeep and they are awesome. Screw paying money for aftermarket wheels when the factory one's fit right and are engineered for the vehicle (my 17" Moab wheels look really good on my 2020 Willys Jeep). Pizza cutter's are the way to go, and I hope more of us Jeep and Toyota guys find that out. We need sidewalls to air down, not to mall crawl with wide treads. Peace! Pete - KI7LIL (HAM radio callsign, monitoring 146.520 in Phoenix, AZ, and D-star Reflector 004C while mobile and traveling).
What do you do with your spare? 285? I was told you can't store it under the truck if it gets bigger than 265.
Would you try the 265/70r17 (almost 32") on the TRD offroad and compare them to the 285s🤔.
Chloe thanks for the video as im fixing to add 285s on my new Tacoma .
Only issue is...did you notice your lower A Arm bushings are out? Those lower A Arms were all over the place. Just dont want it leave you on the trial
This might have been covered in the 175 comments, if so my apologies. I have basically the same set up, just with AEV salta wheels. Curious how to interpret my stock mpg screen readout. I'm usually showing 20.6 mpgs on 60 mph back roads to work, running about 1500 rpms. When I run interstates at 75 plus mph I get a 16ish mpg readout on screen. My speedo is about 3 mph off so I'm actually going 3 mph faster than displayed speed. That part I have figured out but the mpgs not so much. I feel I'm getting better mileage but haven't yet did the pump fill up math. I'm more interested on how the stock running mpg calculator is gathering it's data. Like, where is it located and how does it work. Great videos Chloe, very inspirational young lady.
unless you’re gunna start doing tuning mods and cutting some stuff for clearance, 275 is the way the go
slightly bigger, i’ve never rubbed off roading, and you might lose a little power but it’s marginal
I upgraded to 285/75R16 a few months ago and it DEFFINANTLY impacted my mpg and power. Put on 33" Mickey thompson Baja Boss tires on Method 701s. Its a very heavy setup.
What are MPG are you getting with 285’s?
@@JC-wz9mc its complicated. Ive added more upgrades than just the tires both before and after the tires. At the time, I believe my MPG dropped from 18 to 15-16. That may also incorperate the lift added to accept those tires, (2.5" icon stage 2, with add a leaf in rear) or also by the extra weight of the baja boss tires themselves vs a lighter 33" tire.
@@jaranus597 that’s a nice lift! Thanks for the reply. I ordered 275’s and wish I had gone with a 285. It’s mostly a daily driver but love the look of the 285.
A retune can help with the power loss, primarily as it will remap your shift points. Regearing IS appropriate to the nearly 10% increase in diameter that going from factory to 33" gives you, but it is not "cheap". Additionally the larger tires have a noticeable effect on articulation (particularly up front) where 285's are known to produce noticeable rubbing (mostly during steering under compression) even on moderately lifted (1-2") vehicles, do to the combination of larger diameter and wider stance.
Mine have never rubbed at all with a 2" lift.
I normally recommend skipping the retune right away and just re-gearing. I did just a tune on my wrangler and all it caused was more issues. Put less pressure on the driveline and re gear. do it once, Do it right. then if you feel like you want a tune after do it. Keep in mind though I was going from a 31 to a 315/75r16 (34.6 In)
I have a 2" lift running 285s and have never experienced any rubbing on or offroad. I do admit to never driving hard offroad where it might cause serious compression of the suspension tho.
Love the stance Chloe!! Looks great!
I have 285 ko2 tires on my 2018 trd off road and I get roughly 16mpg in city and 18-19 on highway, it’s not the worst but it does make a bigger difference in the amount of power you feel you get, I am looking to get a tuner to make it feel like I’m getting somewhat the same power and see if it helps my mpg a little
I have a white 2014 tacoma with a 6-inch lift and 285's that looks exactly like this truck. I LOVE it, yeah the 4.0 V6 with 285's aint getting me more than 15.1 miles per gallon but man they don't feel bumps at all 😂👌
I’m running a set of 285/75/16 Cooper AT3 XLT’S on my 2006 Toyota Tacoma it’s all stock and I mostly did it for the looks. Overall happy with them.
That’s pretty good MPG with 285’s. I average 20 MPG on my stock 22’ Tacoma TRD Pro.
I'm getting 16,5 mpgs on my 2016 access cab with 265 75 r16, only other added weight is 32gallon fuel tank and I don't drive fast.
You can definitely see the gap is off on the hood and fender. I thought this truck was your friend’s truck anyway? Either way, looks great overall
I love the 33's on my new Tacoma. However, its not just the size you have to be careful about but the load rating and weight too. Some mud tires will weigh 60 lbs or more at that same size and will be very loud on the highway.
Thanks for the insider pricing. It saved me $100s over suggested price. Basically got the 5th wheel for free with change back 🙂Went with MR703 17" and Falken AT/4w 10ply over the KO2s
I have 285/75/16 General grabber on my ‘18 TRD OR. With a tune for 33” and stock gears I’m getting 19.5 mpg but also have rock sliders. Get it tuned and you’ll get the mpg and power back!
Who did you go with for tune?
First video of yours I’ve seen. I lifted my ‘16 2” but stayed with the 265 KO2s and experienced a loss in gas mileage. Combined I’m around 17. Great info! Those C rated 285s are the lightest LTs I’ve seen. Definitely considering them! Thanks!!
Cool video. Good information. I have a gen 2 trd pro. I've watched a few of your videos. One question I have is what is that jack you are using? looks sweet. I think I want one! lol.
Great video, Chloe. Curious as to whether your spare is also a 285, and if so, does it fit in the spare location ok? Also, just ordered some parts from Sparks and used your discount code. Thanks!
285 do not fit from what ive read before(without modification). You have to take a big hammer and bend the metal retainers out some and I think some possible issues with being to close to the exhaust.
Thanks for this informative video. Believe I might settle in the happy medium of 275s for when I upgrade tire size. So I am assuming that with a 2" lift in the front and 1" in the rear - there should be no rubbing issues?
I skipped it and went to 295s. But its time for a upgrade again atturos are almost at the end of its life
I upgraded my 21' Taco TRD Off-Road 4x4 with a 20"x9" inch Fuel wheel with the 275x55x20 KO2's by BF Goodrich on a 3" Rough Country lift with the Vertex adjustable coil overs on the front & the Vertex adjustable shocks on the rear with the 2" lift heavy duty Old Man Emu leaf springs & I don't really hear an excessively loud road noise while driving. I installed the EVC Ultimate 9 throttle controller & I don't have any problem accelerating with the oversized tires especially when it set on U9. My gas mileage on the other hand is another thing, I get around 11mpg in the city & a combined of 14mpg as of the last tank of gas I used, but the look is amazing. I have done a lot of extra mods that I probably would not have thought of if it weren't for Chloe's channel. Thank you Chloe & keep up the good work.
285's looks so awesome on our tacos, wish it was it came factory, with the proper mods to to compliment that size
I noticed in the 33 second mark on the video, when the suspension is cycling, there is lots of play in the bushing of the lower control arm.......?
That truck is looking great, keep up the great work
Chloe, I noticed your dash gauges showed 344 miles to empty. I have the same tacoma, but with a 6' bed. How are you getting that many miles on a tank of gas? Did you get a tune installed? If so, do you contribute the increase in gas mileage to the tune? Great vids. Thanks!
I do a fuel system cleaning every oil change, and tire rotation at the 5K mile mark.
My dealership gave us a lifetime oil change but Toyota recommends that the oil change is every 10K miles, but I still change it every 5K miles, so I have to pay for every other oil change. After I supply the oil and filter the change itself is $40.
Our Toyota dealership uses Mobile 1 full synthetic oil, so that’s what I’ll stay with. I personally prefer Valvoline full synthetic but I don’t like changing oil brands.
Chloe, awesome video. I am curious, with only lifting the front end, did the suspension settle enough to where the trucks level is even? Or did you have to make some adjustments?
Not C-Load rated but when I searched around the 2 lightest tires I found in the 285/75/16 size are the Bridgestone AT Revos and the Firestone Destination ATs . Both weigh in at 51lbs, the same as those C-Load BFGs.
I just changed from 265's to 255/85 16 Toyo mt's.
I absolutely love them...but i definitely notice the braking distance is much longer!!
When you first started fixing up this truck, you said you were helping your friend. Did you buy the truck from your friend?
In your video, at 8:32 is that normal for that much play on your control arms?
Looks awesome, can a 285s fit in the spare tire compartment?
It does, although it’s a tight fit and sort of sits low
BFG KM3 255/85-16 E. Tall and skinny "pizza cutters!" I have never been a huge fan of wide tires on trucks though. Especially if you live in an area that sees significant snowfall. It just depends on your environment.
Jeff, I have to agree... right down to tire choice. Those same 255s are the tire I plan on replacing my stock tires with when they wear out. IMO they are a better choice for my environment, BUT it depends on what you drive and where. In the southwest where she is at, the wider tires give good traction on the rocks. They have different terrain than say someone like me out in East Tennessee, or you do in your apparent more northerly climate. Many people seem to forget that 255s are an option, as many people look at the first number (the width of the tire) and assume larger number means bigger tire diameter, which profile for profile it does, but they then have to get lower profile ratio. They sacrifice MPG due to higher rolling resistance, and they get increased road noise for a given tread pattern... Though they do get more stopping power (tire for tire) and better floatation (often, but not always a good thing).
The one I cannot understand is these full size guys getting 20" rims for their 35" tires. It is like putting rubber bands on... I have seen a LOT of rim damage on trucks out here because they wanted the big wheels, and they cannot air down much if any without trashing the rims on every rock.
Hrm do I need a lift on my TRD off-road 4x4 stock to upsize the tires? Was planning to keep the stock with winter/snow tires for ski season and swap to a summer pair.
Wild. I’m rubbing with 275/70/17’s lol. Method 316’s and WildPeak at4w’s D: (2.5” Eibach lift)
This question is off topic for tires, its about you rebuilding the vehicle. Where you able to find and buy factory painted fenders?
or did you have to have the fenders paint matched, and how did the paint turn out. Any recommendation on getting new fenders, ie: supply source or tips on paint.
Hey Chloe! I am unsure if this has been answered before but I wanted to ask if you might consider tuning your truck. I've been on the fence of tuning my truck due to California requirements for smog. Most folks claim they will pass emissions but my truck hasn't exceed 6k miles yet. Great content!
Just looking at the video and it looks to like your lower control arm bushing on the front right side is missing or damaged.
I run 285 70 R 17 KO2s on my 21 Offroad. Made it a little bit doggy and downshift more My speedo also reads under by about 3mph. I changed to TRDPro wheels because I hated the 16" wheels that came with it. Makes the lifted Tacoma look much better.
is your taco lifted at all or can you get away with 285s stock?
I have a 2019 trd off rd with a 3.5" lift what would be the best tire size
Personally I don like it I had Tacoma TRD Pro with 285/75/16 and I’m going back with the stocks ones !!!
I know it's a year late, but it's worth a shot....Are those TRD Wheels available for sale?
🤞😁
You think the BFGs are loud new, wait until they have less than 50% tread left....pretty bad.
The 285s give you about 1.5 inch of lift not 3” half of the ire size is on the top of the tire.
With Lea's build and upgrades, are you looking to regear now?
Did you get any noises from the driver side needle bearing? , it is a common issue when a front end lift is installed on tacoma's.
How did you fix your transmission? I had transmission problems on my tacoma and the dealer acted dumb so I had to buy a new tacoma.
Girl you are killing it! I am so happy for you and your channel! Congrats!
Where's 1:22 at? I love driving around San Diego but want to drive in places like that.
just run the ECT power button on bigger tires. that'll bring back up the get up and go
What you need to know?
- You gonna break some fucken necks driving it anywhere.
18mpg shit im getting 14-15mpg city with same setup but i have 3.5” lift and regeared to 5.29
22mpg combined sounds too high. My stock SR5 gets 22 combined.
What about the spare tire? Did you upgrade it to match and if so where do you store it?
How is that a Pro? I thought the Pros all had the hood scoop like the Sport.
Truck must struggle with tires that big. Weak motor and trans.
What about re-calibrating the speedometer and odometer
Speedometer requires a hypertec calibration that requires you to take your dash out to insert that thing. Jsut to tell you your 2-4 miles off at 70ish.
Yeah, it’s a few miles off (lower) at higher speeds technically
Zero offset? Looks like it still stickout
You should try to find someone that has regeared and drive test
I have 285/70/r17 but my average is 12.5????
😻 Love the look. Do you ever see yourself trading up your truck? Or selling one on your channel 🤯.
255/85's for the win if you care about performance
Am I tripping or does that lower control arm bushing look messed up? It seemed like alot of horizontal movement to me 🤔
the tire tread itself could be making the noise worse not it just being wider
How many miles did you gas tank last on 265’s and 285’s?
Great info as always.. I’m taking a road trip out to Westcott Designs next month. I have a 23 OR.. Going with Bilstein 6112/5160 and the Westcott preload collar for a total lift of 3” up front. Icon RXT leaf pack in the rear. 22-23 TRD Pro wheels (+4 offset) with 285/75/r16 Toyo AT3’s. Only thing I don’t like is the E rating on the Toyo’s. Not a lot of C load options in a 16” whee”. I think Falken might have one. Either way I really like the Pro Wheels and the Toyo’s so heavy it is. Keep up the great content!
I have a 2019 Tacoma SR5 2WD ,putting a Bilstein level kit on it ,up grading tires/wheels to LT275 All TerrainT/A KO2 W/method race Wheels 307 hole,17x 8.5 , do you see any issues with that set up?
Love this look! But how in the world are you getting 22 MPG combined before? I have an 2021 SR5 Trail Edition, with less aggressive tires, and the wind splitter up front, and I drive it like a grandpa, and I can barely pull off 18 to 19 MPG average.
Good morning Dear Chloe, I like your performance “enthusiasm and very professional In your explanation”, I feel sure with your content.
My question is I have Toyota Tacoma 2021. I want to change for 295 or 305 Al terrain 70/r16 , I believe than I have to leaf 3 inches. And can I use the same suspension.
2) what to you do if this is your truck to looks great, feel comfortable and safe money in the upgrade
Offset is such an enormous factor. Love that Method has zero offset. So many wheels have -10, -12, etc just to look cool but cause a lot of issues.
I decided to go with 16x8 0 offset 265/75/16 and imo it is absolutely perfect on a stock suspension.
@Souk you need a tune, I’m getting around 15+ with Cvc Tune
Manual tran has bigger gearing. Just get that.
Currently run Motegi Trailites 16x8+0 on 265/75r16 and is lifted 2.5" all around. I consider going 33's but idk 🙄
The wheels I’ve been looking at for my 4Runner are -12. I know that negative offset puts more stress on bearings and suspension components but to what extent? Is a -12 really gonna cause that many issues?
Hi Chloe, I have Toyota Tacoma 2021 off road, I replace my tire 285x 70xr17, and also I put levelling kit, my problem every time I park my taco ,I can hear sound, but there is no rubbings don't know were sound coming from. I hope you can give me idea,.
I do the fuel system cleaner every oil change at 5K miles