Automatic Emergency Braking Test v ELON MUSK Tesla S 3 X Audi Etron Jaguar iPace VW Golf City Safety
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
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Testing the Automatic Emergency Braking systems of several cars by trying to drive into Elon Musk.
How does it work? What does it do?
Tesla Model S with Ap1 and ap2
Tesla Model 3
Tesla Model X
Volkswagen Golf GTE
Audi E-tron 55 Quattro
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If that cardboard was of Jeremy Clarkson, the Teslas would not have brake at all
would they accelerate then instead? :D
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I kind of like the Model 3 system. Early beep so the driver can also react and then violent braking.
That was really fascinating to watch, Richard - thank you for this.
I've only ever seen emergency braking videos shot from outside the car - never from the inside, with the driver in view.
Man alive, doesn't it make the car stop violently...!!
Great content, as always. :-)
Think this is camera based Vs radar. My guess is that the radar systems (VW) only react to items with greater density than cardboard whereas the camera systems recognise an object regardless so long as it is visible.
Vision only is only on fsd builds and newer models. It’s only been around for a few months, so in this case multiple sensors may have been feeding the newer systems
But you can hear the warning sounds when he stopped to close to Cardboard Elon! Sensors recognized him.
Could be why the IIHS tests use lifesize mannequins
@@meriofrog but that’s just the parking sensors. they are only active below 5km/h I think it is.
the alarm sound is a constant beep.
In the Tesla’s there are 4 settings for the collision warning timing, some of the variations in those warnings may have been down to that. The automatic braking is just on or off though.
Is there a “mother-in-law’ option to turn these systems off? Asking for a friend 😉
There is. 😲 (on the Teslas anyway)
@@eubikedude HAHAHA it's even true :P
yes A FRIEND
I don’t think normally but you can normally push past it by just stamping in the accelerator
I’ve actually had a couple of emergency braking when I’ve been on the brakes. I was behind cars and slowing down. Apparently the Model 3 didn’t think I was going to stop in time and yanked the brake pedal away from my foot.
Please, let me know when I should close my eyes!
1:58 Close your eyes!
6:02 Again!
10:29 Please, look away!
12:12 Don't look!
16:10 Bloody hell, look away!
Really interesting, thank you. I’ll be fascinated if you could repeat the experiment once the Tesla Model 3 pure vision is applied in the UK. In other words does it work less well without the radar?
I’m a bit late, but no - this system uses vision anyway.
Great video! Good find with the automatic emergency braking logic in the Tesla's, it makes a lot of sense to avoid accidental emergency braking when you're already aware of an obstacle.
I feel like in the near future with the new driving monitoring they may use gaze direction as part of this logic, we'll have to see. :)
It's actually not working as you will end up hitting those children crossing the street. Should have stopped the car, that is the whole point of that system.
I didn't expect that to happen, some car manufacturers charge for those safety features.
Great video. This is why these systems need to be government tested and graded.
The VW system doesn't work with cardboard..I saw a demo in Germany and they were using metallic backed sponge.
Or a person wrapped in metal…
Interesting though, how does it detect that.?
@@RSEV it's something to do with density, it's also capable of recognizing different sorts of vehicles including motorcycles as well as pedestrians. If you have the multifunction camera in the windshield it works in combination with the ACC radar in the front bumper. German logic, it's not everyday you get a cardboard person crossing the street 😂
@@RSEV Radar only works on metal because the electromagnetic waves are not fully reflected by other materials (such as cardboard). The radar probably went right through the cardboard, so "Elon" was invisible to it. The camera-based Tesla systems obviously detected the cardboard. I would assume that the VW system is made to avoid crashes with cars, which are made of metal.
When I took my first Tesla test drive, in 2017~ 2018 (?), the sales guy told me that AEB wouldn't kick in if it thought you were paying attention, ex. you've applied the brakes, steered to avoid, etc. Seems like what you've found! Good test, thanks!
This is one of my favorite channels now as a Tesla Model S owner. Very very good videos from this channel. Good work! 👍
Amazing to see how different cars respond to people in the way. I would love to see other EV's run this gauntlet as well. Seeing how features actually work ...or not is definately worthwhile viewing! Thanks and keep it going
We’ll continue to do this.
Peugeot e208 works
Mercedes eqc does not
Ford ranger does!
Excellent illustration of how these braking systems work. You saved me from doing my own testing which I'm sure would not have been as good as yours. Just a suggestion, you could have edited out the repositions between runs without loosing any of the content. If you can get a video down to less than 10 mins probably more people will watch it to the end.
Great video Richard. I have 2015 Model S and I think the EBA only works with the Autocruise or Autopilot engaged. It uses the old Mercedes radar system. Perhaps give that a go. To be sure, I’m generally on at least Autocruise. Thanks for testing this so thoroughly.
Great test again, Would love to see a part 2 with no radar version of Tesla.
Also noticed all the Tesla’s had noisy suspension squeaks.
Those are brake squeaks, not suspension.
I think if it's radar-based like the Golf, it may not see cardboard as a real "obstacle". Radar usually detects stuff with high mass so it works well with other cars.
That's correct. And the Audi uses an invisible laser system.
I also have a Golf and have noticed that the safety braking is very poor or non-existant with static objects. It works well with anything that is moving when detected but if static when detected, it's as if the object/person isn't there.
I like the violent stop - makes you pay for not paying attention.
Best transparent reviewer. We have an etron 55 21MY. It works whilst on the accelerator rather than the brake. I was a bit perturbed at first as it never seemed to intervene but since realised it works similar to the Tesla and definitely below 28 mph.
I had a Volvo XC60 in 2010 and a car in front slammed its brakes on for absolutely no reason approaching a roundabout. I braked hard but the emergency brake assist definitely helped me to stop just in time. A very brief "phew, got away with that one" until the car behind slammed in to the back of me !
I've had quite a few cars since and have never really understood if, when and how the EBA would cut in!
My model 3 braked before i would have hit some idiot running a red light. phenomenal system
Please do this type of testing on as many cars as you can. If systems are not working well in certain cars, that info needs to be made more publicly accessible.
Really interesting video! It’s one of those systems that you see in promotional videos but it’s great to see ‘real life’ instances. Cheers!
There are 2 types of systems, collision avoidance which is the 'city safe' system which will stop your car from hitting an object but only up to about 25mph. The 2nd system is 'collision mitigation' which will work at much higher speeds and only reduces the impact speed by say 15 to 20mph. This does not sound like much of a speed reduction but may make the difference between life and death. There are no systems like city safe that will work from say 60 to 0mph, reason being is that the system will activate if it thinks that the driver cannot steer around the obsticle and the distance to steer around a stationary target in the road is shorter than the distance required to brake from 60 to 0mph
My Audi A6 Avant C8 saved my life once on the highway. I got distracted by Google Maps suddenly saying I had a delay of 40 minutes on my route to pickup my kid from school and I got worried and looked at the screen for literally a few seconds. Problem was there was a right turn in the highway and a Ford Focus was driving at no more than 60kph/36mph in a 120kph/75mph zone and I didn't see him on the straight before the turn. I was driving at 120kph and my A6 just slammed the brakes hard enough to drop the speed and gave me enough time to assess the situation, swerve and save myself. 🙏 The Ford Focus driver didn't even notice a thing (looking down at his phone)...
So the Audi presense works at way bigger speeds than 20-25mph. And I take an even bigger care while diverting my eyes from the road even for a second.
It has already activated a few times when it wasn't necessary, which always scares me, but God bless automatic braking.
So what you prooved is that if human is added to situation the result is the worst. Thanks for confirming me that full autonomy is really the best way LOL XD
Very funny content! Need more vids like this XD
5:39 the third-person camera angle of the Model 3 in its display even moves in the event of hard braking, rather than just staying static. That's attention to detail.
Great video. Would like to see comparisons with the ID.3 and ID.4.
Great insight, still a long way to go? My only experience was in a 2018 RAV4 hybrid when a pedestrian stepped out it did break hard. 👍
I worry now that because of the eye-watering prices of BMW add ons I didn't purchase this feature. I only bought the reverse camera and front and back sensors. I wrongly assumed that in this day and age it had adaptive cruse control so was disappointed that it only had none adaptive. Wish I had stumped up the extra £800
Awesome video, thank you for making this! I was genuinely curious to see if my Model S would stop. Glad you did the different years and models too.
Would the airbag ever engage if it thought a crash was imminent?
Airbag would only go off if car starts deforming at front or side (ie crash only)
This is exactly why vision systems are superior than radar in day-to-day use.
Another great video. Thanks Richard.
Had an Interesting affect today at a pedestrian crossing a lady with a walking assist trolley was displayed as a sports motorcycle now I'm getting used to the cones being coloured and high derailed wheelie bins but the lady as a superbike is the best yet.🤣🤣🤣
Very interesting test. More of these should be done.
I possible reason that the Tesla S 2015 and other cars did not breake is that they depend on radar, and radar beam goes through the cardboard. The density of cardoard is much lower tha water. Perhaps a tin foil will help?
Great video Richard!!!
Really a very useful test on the claimed safety of automakers.
By the, isn't Audi system a little bit dangerous, i. e., letting go of the brakes?
I'm just imagining if there is another car behind, that misses the breaking, then it will push the Audi over the pedestrian.
Not sure if that is the crawling to replicate the functioning of ICE cars with torque converter and can be disabled on those EVs. Don't throw stones, I think I got over this info some time ago, not very sure.
The E-Golf (and I assume GTE) will only brake if the object is moving into the path of the vehicle, or the object is decelerating and the Golf believes it will impact into the vehicle. (My emergency braking usually kicks in when a car pulls off the primary road into a turning slip as it assumes I am following the path of the vehicle ahead, even though I know I am going past it) It caught me off guard a few times and the person behind I am sure must wonder why I brake suddenly for a car ahead turning that isn't even in my lane anymore. (It is more sensitive if the adaptive cruise control is on and it is not me on the accelerator, If I am controlling speed manually it usually beeps but not brakes for me)
How about with Cruise Control?
If the cars have speed limiter, could you set the limit and plant your foot. Then you would have to worry less about what speed you were doing as you approach Elon.
What is the spinning disk on the left side of the dash?
Yes what is that, can someone let us know please?
Ha ha that’s me wife’s air freshener which looks like a record deck. Has a little solar panel and spins like mad in the sun 😂
@@RSEV wasn't sure if it was some new Lidar haha
@@RSEV 🤷♂️ That seems very distracting.
Some of these tests don’t work well due to programming. With static obstructions the car has detected from the starting position, or as far as it can detect it assumes it is a sign post or bollard as part of the road (doesn’t know if road bends ahead) so it tends to ignore these. If that same static object then started moving it will assume it’s a pedestrian or vehicle, and stop the car.
I'd love to see this test with more cars. I have a BMW i3, but hesitate to test the automatic breaking systems with pedestrians as they may get pissed if I end up breaking some legs...
We’ll make it something we do regularly with various cars and compile each tiles we’ve done a few!
Come on mate, your wife won’t mind being a crash test dummy.
@@RSEV You'll be the AEB versions of the "4x4 tests on rollers" channel. :)
Would like to see this with the Taycan please
Awesome video Richard!
Amazing video as always
How? It literally released few seconds ago.
@@AA-dg4oo just by magic 😂😂😂 did you watch it. Elon is dead 😂
@@AllenHart999 😀 he got a couple broken legs at least
I think its made so in speeds under 25mph it prevents hit or atleast minimizes injuries. Its not leaving 2m - 3m gap.
agree would be interesting to see how the tesla 3 without radar compares to tesla 3 with radar. another great test would be to test all recent cars in approx price range. It would be unfair to compare a $200,000 car to a $30.000 car, the expensive car should have better electronics.
This was great, please do some more of these. Did you ever test the Mercedes? How do the Hyundai and Kia systems perform?
Thanks. I have a 2017 Mazda CX-5. Yea, I am not electric yet. It has automatic emergency braking which I have tested. It too comes in late and brakes violently but stops in time. However, it does not seems to have any sense of conditions. I doubt it would intervene on a wet or snow covered road early enough.
I suspect that releasing the brake after stopping is to prevent whiplash when the person behind you runs into you.
Poor old Elon 😂😂😂🤪
When I finally have saved up and I’m walking up to RSEV to buy a EV I know to lookout for you at 28MPH
Great content!
PS: Get your wife a proper EV
Now try it again with a Herbert Diess cut out. Lol
Very good test. Thank you
Seems the I-Pace was the smartest car. It knew it was merely some thin cardboard, so why not just ram through it!
Love it. Innovative. Unique Thanks Much
So the Jag ignored Elon and the Audi took him out. Lol.
One thing I’ve noticed with the Teslas is that if you aren’t looking ahead it seems more likely to take avoiding action, so if you looked out of the side window or down at your phone it seems more likely to stop.
That test on the jag is not an example of my personal experiences with that car! The autobreaks works
Would be interesting to see what the current Nissan Leaf does. Mine used to emergency brake quite a bit for no obvious reason!
My Gen 2 Leaf was the same, it used to cut in all the time for no apparent reason.
Really good to know Tesla is so far ahead on these systems
"That was me, it didn't even try "
try a store front or a brick wall
For almost 5 years I drove a Golf TSI with City Emergency Breaking package but not once it did a thing, ever...
Pedestrians usually are not a standing target. I am wondering what would change if you just threw a box in front of the car.
I've not driven an ICE for a while, I remember them being old fashioned, but does that Golf have a record player on the dashboard near the end?
Ha yes it does (an air freshener powered by solar) 😂
You must redo it with a Herbert Diess image. :)
😂 send me one
@@RSEV Send this to your local "large format" shop and then stick it over Elon (!): www.designtagebuch.de/wp-content/uploads/mediathek/2015/09/vw-iaa-2015-herbert-diess.jpg
Joe bidden and trump hugging woukd be funny to see if the cars would stop or if they would go nah get rid of them both hehe😜😜😜🔥🔥🔥🔥 flame wars begin
Thanks for this video. Please do the same test for Renault Zoe, Honda e and Peugeot e-208.
Does density have an effect? Try it with some fine quality bricks? How about some seagulls to test if it's a thermal issue? Just put my sandwich on the ground and I'm sure they'll willingly take part.
Robbers & Carjackers : So, if I stand in front of your car with a gun.. you can't run me over? Niceeee...
Could you say Hello, or something at the beginning of your videos!
Great these safety systems, good for shop car parks etc
Of course the Tesla won't hit Elon hard, but that braking is so sharp!
We have collision avoidance warning on the Kona, not sure if it has emergency braking though.
Hello it is…. I need a catchy entrance like “yo wassup”
@@RSEV Have a watch of the into/outro on Jack's video! Yo! ruclips.net/video/ONGaeyKe3CQ/видео.html
interesting as my f pace emergency brakes are supposed to work up to 111mph!
Did you forget activating anticollision radar on the i-pace?
Maybe Jaguar in Pace and VW Golf is the program to respond to movements?
oh, voltswagon... your next public debacle: ELONGATE! heh. elongate.
Every gangster just wrote the tesla off their car list, and went for the jaaaag instead, as Jeremy Clarkson would say. LOL!!!!!!!
I heard some cars use IR thermal vision for emergency breaking..
For tesla you can make it to stop early or medium or late so you can let tesla stop early
The seatbelt in the 2014 S looks shredded, maybe some previous owner always wore a jacket with metal zip when driving it?
Maybe the issue with the cars not braking is that they use radar that might not see the cardboard? I know the new Tesla's only use cameras.
Model S sounds like my knees!
Quality original content I sub this channel for ❤️🙏🏻
I think VW system only responds to radar reflector. Cardboard does not reflect.
Would you really expect a car to recognise an alien at first sight?
Nice job!
Great video that was just brought to my attention. I've always questioned the ability of cardboard figures to simulate real obstacles. Can it be that some of the cars use radar for emergency braking and that the cardboard doesn't reflect enough of it to trigger an emergency brake?
Something odd about your I-Pace as EMERGENCY BRAKING is a standard feature of the car. I drive one myself and it came on when someone ran out in front of me a few months ago.
Its just that radar based pass try cardboard
Cool. Tesla vehicles work pretty well with safety braking on pedestrians.
How does it do with smaller animals such as dogs or will it even detect smaller Squirrels that scurry in front of vehicles at times driving through neighborhoods.
It is now 2023 and how well do the Tesla vehicles work without radar sensors and emergency braking????
Looks like we better be wearing our seatbelts all the time with these kind of emergency stoppings.
As a few people have alluded to previously it would appear that the iPace and definitely the Golf rely on radar technology over vision based detection. Radar systems emit pulses of microwave energy that travel at the speed of light and this energy will only be returned if it encounters a material which will reflect it. Fortunately water is extremely reflective and the Mk 1 human being would have no trouble be detected by these radar based devices. Cardboards and plastics are transparent to microwave energy which is why you can heat your curry in these form of containers in your microwave oven at home.
Previous comment made of giving Elon a bacofoil backside would also provide a nice radar reflection unless you wanted to sacrifice the office water cooler !
Can you re test this with the new cameras on tesla
Hi a question for you, does the acceleration boost for the M3 reduce the range of the car. Obviously if the car is driven hard that will but in normal circumstances is there any difference please.
Thank you
No, just a bit more performance up to about 50mph.
Range is down to pure physics
Thank you
Tesla should make it so that even if you're already breaking it anyways puts 100% breaking force.. just for more safety
What software was on the Teslas? I've noticed far more "forward collision warning" activations in 2021.418.2 vs previous versions. More use of the cameras maybe?
You can't use this car escaping the hood
So Audi don't want you to injure someone but the system is happy for the vehicle to kill them.
Very impressive
Very interesting video. If these systems are built into cars you expect them to work. From seeing this you should not rely or trust these AEB systems.
I wonder what the legal ramifications are if manufacturers are selling these systems and the cars still run into people.
Does Tesla Model 3 have Automatic Emergency Breaking?? Anyone. My Tesla Model 3 Automatic Emergency breaking did stop breaks tires screeching loudly when someone pulled out in from of me on local street. But I can't tell if it was the car or me that reacted. Mar 8, 2023