Important Arrow Info For Traditional Bowhunters
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2020
- Important Arrow Info For Traditional Bowhunters
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I just shot a tournament with guys shooting metal risers and longbows with perfect vertical form and draw and stance....... But I won with drawing from low position, canting my bow, single Nock point and 52 lb of draw weight has 32 inch draw. When they were shooting 35 lb metal riser bows three fingers under with perfect form. My bow is my hunting setup
Hahaha. Love this! And congrats on the win!
That's great to hear
Keep it simple with familiar gear. Well done
went to a 3D shoot last year, & grouped up with some fun guys that all shot target recurves. I had my Schafer recurve with me, my fav hunting bow. I held my own against them, but was almost constantly getting tips and coaching from them, which I didn't mind-none of them were hunters. towards the end of the round, one of them asked why I wasn't changing my shooting based on their instructions. I mainly hunt from the ground, so i said, "let me show you. let's you and me try 1 shot each at 15 yds-you pick your shot, & i'll shoot the same way, then it's my turn." He picked the classic upright target shot, and got closer to the bullseye than me. then it was my turn. I stood with my back to the target, and knelt down on both knees, then turned around as i drew, holding my recurve almost perfectly horizontal, just a couple of feet off of the ground, and drilled the heart on the target. He missed the target completely! "I said-I'm a bowhunter-that's why i shoot the way that i shoot!"
Love this! Nothing wrong with target style and nothing wrong with hunting using a target style. But I prefer no limitations, and target style has to many limitations. Great story and you proved your point to them with it being better for your hunting situations. Love it
All good and the best and most comprehensive tutorial on hunting style in a single video I have seen to date.
“ I do not shoot in a perfect world! I do not shoot with perfect form”! Amen
Thanks
I have shot Bow for 56 years, and I AGREE with EVERY THING you said in this Video 1000%. I will continue to watch all your video's. Great Job !!!!!!
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it
I agree with you. Everyone has to find their shooting style and what works for them. That's where the fun starts!
Well said and agree 100%
Good stuff! I’m just getting into bow hunting and I like learning from an actual seasoned bow hunter not a target archer. Same tools, completely different applications.
Agree 100% and any questions just ask!
Another great video with a real world perspective and not following the crowd. Real world in the woods!!! Practicing like that makes harvesting game achievable. Thanks.
Thank you
Watched several of your videos and what you are saying makes perfect sense to me. I'm 70, still able to pull a 60 pound bow and shoot in the old traditional style. Why? It fits me and it's fun. I've tried compounds and even crossbows. They don't fit and I'm going to shoot the way it works for me and the bow that works for me.
Love this! Very well said and agree 100%
To go a step further, I practice shooting left handed for animals coming around from behind and to the right as well as flying targets without a good anchor with any of my bows,but I've been shooting bow for 72 years!
Practice is everything. And if you practice it and can do it repeatedly then it's good to go.
@@SamkoTradBow
People need to practice every possible scenario they might come across. Deer, Partridge, squirrel and rabbits aren't going to be straight in front of you!
Watching your videos like this one makes me realize I could use a more forgiving setup and need to work on/play with tuning more.
Always good and fun to tinker with tuning!
"Pinch a bear can... I'm not doing that." I agree.
Just started watching, but I love your channel. I love the fact that you’re focused on what works, not what everyone tells you should work. 👍😎
Thanks! Glad you are enjoying the content!
Been a compound shooter my whole life, just started traditional recently to reignite the fire and learn something new, this is probably the 3rd trad bow video I’ve ever watched, but this has to be the realest damn thing I’ve EVER seen on RUclips. HELL YEAH DUDE! Awesome video
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it and welcome to traditional bowhunting!
I noticed on my first deer I ever shot at with my longbow that I should have practiced with a cant. I went home and practiced it and immediately realized that I was shooting all wrong before. I love how informative your videos are and that you have thought about everything. Like the video where you have a pin in your grip so the arrow doesn't fall off in high wind. Like who thinks of these things lol keep up the good work man.
Thanks! Glad you are enjoying the videos!
Awesome video. I am a compound archery hunter, but find a lot of your information priceless and cause me to think in different ways for my setup. . Also, The energy and passion you have for archery and all-things-outdoors is astounding. Haha great job.
Thank you. Greatly Appreciate that.
You have a lot to say and you get it done. I learned some things and enjoyed watching. Thanks.
Awesome! Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you.
Finally, a realistic hunting shooter. Right on bud... love it.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
Your viewpoint was well presented.
Thank you
kustom king barrel tapered cedars & maple have worked great for me.
All I can say is if it works do it ! I watched your practice videos , and I must say you are an awesome shot , very consistant shooter , hope to be that good some day !
Thanks! I agree if it works just do it. No reason to have to follow any certain system or method
Tell it like it is and do what works for you. That's my way of shooting just as it is yours. Great philosophy.
Well said. Merry Christmas
Love this video and informative information!!! Makes sence. I know what works for you may not work for onther archers as everyone is physically built different. If you are getting great results and hitting where you want to, dont change.. Acurrate shot placement is the key to sucsess!!!
agree 100% And thank you
Awesome, finally a truthful bow hunter !
Thank you.
Isn’t that the truth! This was refreshing
to hear.
@@TheHYENA87 thank you
Love your honesty.
Thanks
Houghton lake! Glad you're still here brother.
Yep fir another 5 years or so. Then will see where life takes us..lol
TB , your the Man! your speaking all truth. keep it coming!! 👊
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it.
Late to the party here but, im smiling all the way through it because, i feel your frustration with the Keyboard Warriors and unsolicited experts. As the late Mrs Fern Meigs used to say, " I dont care if your shooting, standing on your head, if you are hitting your mark, your doing it right"....
Agree 100%
Jason I agree 100% too many people watch the hunger games and think that’s the way to shoot a bow for hunting. Great real world knowledge being dropped. Thanks as always for sharing.
Thank you! Yeah there is a big drive towards target style shooting and thats 100% ok and good. But for me as a hunter first thought this might help some people understand what its really like in the woods.
Love this video! Thank you for posting
Your welcome
back ground is b e a utiful! great info aswell
Thanks..glad you enjoyed it
Most excellent bowhunting advice, and I could not agree more. As a tournament archer for many years, I can assure you that it is very difficult to "unlearn" that style of shooting.
For one thing, my mind is so finely trained to hit center that It's all I can do to force my shot down to hit the heart or low in the lungs. As you know, a hit that's a little high of center can cause all kinds of problems. Shooting at game is a whole different ballgame - just take a look at the techniques of Fred Bear or Howard Hill to name just a couple (of bowhunting legends). They took more animals than I could ever hope to take, with equipment that most people would not know what to do with. I'm "just" a bowhunter now, and I wish I could shoot more like you do...
Thank you. Glad you liked the video
Fundamentals are what's truly important if you are learning how to shoot any bow , that is if you think consistency is important and yes I am a bow hunter.
Thanks for your common sense videos for real hunters
Thank you. Glad you are enjoying them
Good tips! It looks like you have a great working system. Nice heavy arrows too.
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for what you do.
Very welcome and thank you for commenting
The real deal! Glad to have found your channel.
Thank you. Glad you are enjoying it
Great video. I shoot my bow the same way as you at a canter. I’ve been shooting that way for about forty years. I’ve been laughed at too. I tell them shoot the way that they are most comfortable. I’m sure not going to change now.
Yep. I do think its funny how there are people that want to tell me what I'm doing is wrong. I have never told anyone ever in my life that they are shooting a bow wrong..lol
Good video. I can use back tension everytime when I'm practicing. But when I'm in the moment hunting I never think about back tension. So after a couple of seasons I've just quit practicing that way and know how my arrow flies as it would when I'm hunting.
I agree 100%. I did the exact same. finally said forget it. This is how I shoot and it works for me. Glad you have a system that works good for you.
The brutal honesty! Lol learning so much from you.
🤣🤣 glad you are enjoying the videos
Haha, you had me busting up! I love it, "I'm not a target archer, I'm a bow hunter!" And to that I say, amen! Yes I target practice, but for me it is all about the meat!
Thanks for the great videos.
Hahaha. Yep its all about the meat for me too! I'm the farthest thing from a target archer there is..lol
My dad was hunting with a recurve in the 50s and 60s when l was a teenager he taught me to shoot just like you do crouch down bend at the waist a little bend in bow arm l can't imagine shooting any other way
yep works best for me too. really dials in my focus.
Great, very informative video. Thanks
Thanks
Excellent video Jason. I think a lot of the shooting gurus are well intentioned but are geared towards newbies and people crossing over from compound bows. Or, competitive 3D guys. It's funny the way those courses are laid out, 99% of those guys will be deer hunting 18' off the ground😁 Try getting back tension when a deer is 6 yards from your tree and you're 20' off the ground! It's too much.
Thanks! And I agree, thats why i shoot like I do. And don't get me wrong there are great benefits to the way archery is taught and used by so many today. But for me, this is what qorks best.
Thanks - appreciated
very welcome
Very sound advice 👌
Glad you enjoyed it
hell yeah brother!! stiff is the only way to go! if you want penetration you dont want jiggle. only a steady straight shaft can deliver so much power!
alot of people neglect the importance of shooting at distances like 3 meters to work on how clean and straight you can let the arrow leave the bow before anything else!
im shooting a 50# @31" on abut 32 and a half inches of draw and the only arrow that can leave the bow straight is something close to 350 spine
Great points! And you are right more people should test at 3 yards and see what the arrow does. then at 4 and 5 and 6 etc. that will show them the yardage where the shaft is flying perfect.
@@SamkoTradBow straight arrow flight is just everything....
every second the arrow isnt flying straight is power lost and it snawballs with distance
From what I have read on forums I see hunters generally prefer heavier arrows.
Which is understandable because it just carries more mass with it but I have seen it also seems to make trajectory more pronounced ofcourse... its a heavier arrow, but also more predictable and "equaly bent" along the arc in a way, because it doesnt slow down as much as a lighter arrow.
Extremely good video, slam packed with the truth. Good stuff.
Thank you
Ever since I had to quit hunting cause I’m old, I’ve used your explanation as my defense for my target performance. Our club has one “hunt” style shoot a year. Tree stands, 8 yd shots. Knees, under branches, the whole routine. Every club oughta have at least one for perspective.
That's a great idea for all clubs and would teach people what it's really like in the woods.
I've always shot Doug fir arrows in my recurves and longbows. Nothing against carbon, just haven't been able to get a good carbon to fly like my fir arrows with Pope & young cut feathers.
I did just order the American from Steve at NM. Thx for the gr8 info.
Yeah wood is the ultimate arrow material for forgiveness, quietness, etc. Can never go wrong with wood! Glad its working great for you
Fit for purpose, great.
Thanks
This was awesome.
Thank you
Thanks for your vidoes
Thank you
I am so grateful to finally meet someone , who I can totally understand ...
Your a lefty, I am a lefty..
You don't conform to the social archery styles of archery that are dominant on videos or in archery clubs....you have your own adaptable style that works for you, for what you need (hunting).
11:47....Bwhahahahaah....OH MY GOD !! laloololol
Yep I find what works best for me and stick with it. Glad you enjoyed the video
Awesome video I do test my tune for hunting situations and all I care about is the end result meat in the freezer. And again awesome video
Well said and agree completely! Fill that freezer!
I believe my form is much worse than yours. I am 66 and have been shooting Traditional for around 55 years. I was always a bowhunter first, foam shooter second. I always cant my bow, no back tension to speak of. Sometimes I hit full anchor and sometimes not, I am known to snap shoot on occasion etc. etc. Meat hunter first and have been blessed with 76 whitetails in the freezer over my life. I have tried correct form and so forth but think at my age I will just stay with what works for me. Loved the video, thank you!
Congrats on a lifetime of great hunting adventures and here's to many more! Yep I'm with you. If it works great dont change it!
You speak the truth!
Thank you
Hello from Siberia, Baikal lake area. A good content your videos.
Thank you
That’s what I’m talking about 🤩
100% buddy!
Thank you
Archers!!
This man knows of that which he posts!!
🏹🏹🏹🦌🦌🦌
Thank you
@@SamkoTradBow
Thank You also I am learning 🏹
Just use a smaller horsebow and thumb release with khatra and you can avoid so many of these issues 😛
All joking aside, great info and points here. You've definitely done the work to figure out what works best for you and what is impractical technical distraction. Also, with the back tension stuff, you may just be strong enough to where you dont have to put extra focus into engaging the back. I'm a skinny guy, so I need all the focus I can get to keep from tearing out my already crappy shoulders.
back tension is a very good thing in archery. and if you can make it happen consistently thats the best way to do it.
awesome video
Thank you
Love your vids. Unorthodox like me. 😁
It'd a good way to be!
I agree with you 100%. I see comments where guys ask if they should hold for two or three seconds to get back tension. I'm thinking, shit in two or three seconds that animal could be out of the shooting lane. One question though, do you find the heavy foc "reduces" the importance of the spine of your arrows? I'm just starting to dabble with a high foc.
I do believe that high foc arrows recover quicker therfore making them easier to tune and offering a bigger range of bow weight that thry can shooter better in. But I do still believe tuning is important and bare shaft as well as paper tuning should be done to get the best possible flight. The major advantages of high foc is better broadhead flight, better penetration, better accuracy in wind, better bone breaking capabilities, etc.
People think they should be as precise and repeatable as an 85 % letoff compound with a release. It's like trying to shoot long shots with a shot gun.
These bows have diffrent advantages. Light quite shoots ok in any position.
Agree
Greg video! I also get really annoyed by everyone acting like you’re going to be able to shoot a stick bow like you’re shooting at the range in hunting scenarios. Plus the fun of shooting primitive bows is the fact that it should feel natural and it should be your own style……..shoot however your comfortable shooting and build off of it. I ain’t looking at any diagrams of how my back and arms should be.
agree 100
That torque thing (khatra) is an advantage for thumb draw in which we dont care a lot about spine and stuff
Thumb shooters always get such a great clean release too!
Good video.
Thanks
Ive actually got in the habit of leave my arrows a c-hair weak spined to help with this to i run 4 x4" fletch, loses a little foc with the extra feather but works well for me and im never thinking about the cock feather
Sounds like you got it dialed in!
Great 👌
Thanks
You would make a great preacher lol thanks for your work
Hahaha. Thanks! Glad you are enjoying the videos
This was a good one, couldn't stop laughing. Just to much "You Gotta Do This" stuff out there. I have never been able to get the bare shaft thing down, but feathers are your friend. Keep em coming
Lol. Yep feathers are definitely your friend. And they hide all my flaws very well
I shoot similar to you when I hunt when I shoot paper targets in a league or 3D then I shoot more of a vertical bow for me it's not hard to switch back and forth some people that's the curse of death
Thats great that you can switch styles so easily. I could not do that!
Good stuff man
Thank you
Great info, do what works for you and the perfect it! Enjoy your videos very informative. One suggestion, slow down and take a breath every now and then you’re gonna pass out one of these times bro! Lol!
Thanks! Yep hard to slow down as my mouth trys to keep up with my brain..lol
Great video!
Thanks
Traditional Bowhunting And Wilderness Podcast your welcome! The ability to be able to adapt to the situation, is the way forward
I disagree with a lot of what Jason says but I also understand what he's trying to convey.
Nothing wrong with that! All I can preach is my experience
I experimenting with your shooting style versus what I have been doing, shooting bow vertical. So far, I find your style way more comfortable and natural. I am using a recurve and I am wondering whether you see advantages with shooting a longbow.
Looking at your other videos about longbows, it looks like forgiveness is a key advantage of a longbow.
I think my style is better with a longbow. I could shoot a recurve vertical if I wanted and did for a bit in the early days. But with a longbow and the very short sight window I can not shoot a longbow vertically to save my life..lol Glad you are giving it a shot and enjoying it.
Good stuff. I'm a hunter & just looking into learning on a trad bow. Haven't even found a bow that I wanted to buy. But anyhow I was wondering what poundage of bow do you use?
Trad bow weights are measured at 28 inches of draw unless otherwise noted. So you need to figure out your draw length first by going to a bow shop and drawing thier measuring bow. Bow weight goes up or down about 3 pounds per inch either side of 28 inches. So a 45 pound bow at 28" would be 42 pounds when drawn to 27" and 48 pounds when drawn to 29".
Something in the 45 pound range at your draw length is a good bow weight to start with and is also good enough for hunting as well.
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Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. There are over 500 videos on the channel and almost 500 podcasts on my tbwpodcast.com channel as well!
I never could get a bareshaft to fly straight, nothing I ever did, best I can figure is I have a major form issue. I shoot well and typically place high but dang bareshaft I h drives me nits
Yep form matters tremendously. I actually have a video coming out of form issue with bareshsft tuning that I made last time I was down in ga where I have a big black backstop that I could show it well.
Jason,
What is the maximum height of your high back feather configuration?
Between half and 3/4. Can't remeber exactly.
I cant the bow as well I’m a hunter not a target shooter I hunt for meat I don’t worry about horns my form is horrible and I don’t use back tension either my style works for me
Yep whatever works best for you is what is important. Its a stick and a string. There are no rules. Just use it to fill the freezer best as you can!
Have you tried aae trad vanes? They’re pretty nice.
I have not. Neverbhad a problem with feathers even in the rain. So no hurry to try something else. But I hear good things about the trad vanes.
I shoot a 52” 60 lb bow . Here in the PNW we don’t hunt out of a tree stand . We are waking 100s of Miles a year . And we need a small bow beacuse the brush is so thick
Sounds like you have the perfect bow for what you need!
I’ve been trying to find a high back chopper. Which one do you use?
I buy the 3 rivers 4 inch and now just drop the guide bar all the way down as low as it will go. Used to buy thr 5 and a half high back and cut the feathers at 4 inches and shape the front with scissors
Great video Jason!! Can you tell me what bow grip is on your bow? It looks absolutely straight. I have never seen one like that. Looks much more natural to me but I’m a hack....haha.
You are correct. It is a straight grip. No Locator, no dish, no nothing. Just a straight grip. I love it!!! So simple and forgiving.
Traditional Bowhunting And Wilderness Podcast I found your videos on the “ASL and Hill Bow”. They answered a ton for me. I have fallen in love with the longbow, much much more than the recurve. I am going to purchase a custom one and have narrowed down to just a handful of bowyers. Do you know if a straight grip can be used on a reflex\deflex longbow?
@@donniewillis2926 yep I'm the same. Love the longbow! You can get a straight grip on a r and d bow. But from what I'm told its not recommended as the r and d bows are not quite as forgiving as a straight limb asl bow. But it sure can be done!
Im the same way i bareshaft paper tune and then use 4" feathers with poor form too
Yep, we strive for pure perfect arrow flight and then rely on fwsthers to save us in those tricky situations.
You have used two blade broadheads for a long time. How are the bloodtails with a 2 blade compared to a 3 blade? Thats with a pass through double long mid chest lower exit? Looking at the 2 blade ozcut elite 150 grain
Only killed one deer with a 3 blade and it was not a pass thru. So can't really compare. But I have killed well over 100 animals with 2 blades and have been very happy with the blood trails. Especially with a 1.25 or 1.5 inch wide 2 blade. They penetrate well, pass theu 95$ of the time, leave good blood and fit better in my quiver as well as sharpen faster. That's why I stay with a 2 blade.
@@SamkoTradBow your a great help,, Thank you
Also what do you call a release device / glove like that? I am a beginner traditional bow hunter. I have a 50 lb grizzle bear bow. I am looking for a limb quiver like the one you have. I currently have a neet 3 finger glove and shoot split finger. I a really like your glove.
This is called a shooting tab. They make them for split finger or 3 under style. Many different styles and materials. 3 rivers archery has a bunch great ones to choose from. Welcome to the world of traditional archery. You are gonna love it!
Jason I have a similar draw length as you, and my first Trad Bow is a Bear Montana 64 inch, 60lb. I bought 400 spine arrows, and got them finally tuned with a 75 grain insert and a 300 grain broadhead. However, the trajectory was rough after 15 yards, about 8 inch drop at 20 yards. When I tested it at a local archery shop, the poundage on my bow actually ranged from 40-46 pounds. (Apparently this model is very "stacky". ) I'm having luck killing three pigs and three deer this year, but I would like a bow with more poundage to improve my trajectory. Right now instead of "20 yards and in" I'm more like "12 yards and in."
Question 1. Seeing how my draw length can't be increased, how did you find bows allowing for higher poundages? I think I remember you saying you used as much as 70 pound trad bow, but now you are about 55 pounds.
Question 2. Spine charts now say I should shoot a weaker spined arrow, 500 or 600, would a drop in spine improve my trajectory in the 15-20 yard range? Have you found the spine of an arrow affecting trajectory much? By trajectory I mean "drop" with increasing distance.
Congrats on the deer and pigs!
Bow weight will not change the arrow speed much. But longer bows are usually smoother and stack less than shorter bows.
Spine will not effect arrow speed. You have to shoot a certain spine to get good arrow flight. Arrow weight is what slows the arrow down. I recommend arrow weights of 10-12 grains of arrow weight per pound of draw weight. But even 9 grains is still good.
I tip my hat to you for keeping your distances close and knowing the limits of your gear!
Are there any reasons why you shouldn't use lighted nocks?
Lighted nock work great. They are just expensive. Bit they work great
When I started40 yrs ago an old guy asked me, “ do you want to hit the 12 ring when your with your friends or do you want to kill the deer and elk?” Since then I have shot the way you just explained. In the last 40+ yrs I have since then killed a bunch of deer and elk, my friends they can hit the 12 ring.
Well said! Nothing wrong with target archery and nothing wrong with shooting a bow any this or that way. But for hunting I think the target way is not the best way.
My best friend has his own style. We call it Crouching Tiger. You shoot upright compared to him. He too only cares about hunting.
I shoot 3d tournaments and got caught up in the "perfect form" crap. It adversely effected my hunting.
I went back to how I shot when I started 30 years ago. I am shooting better than ever.
I now shoot a 60 inch longbow and have a 2'oclock cant while bending at the waist. It's how I shoot from a stand or the ground.
Yep big difference between target and hunting stance.
@@SamkoTradBow I'm in it for hunting!
Great info.Plastic fletching suck
Yeah I'm not a fan of the plastic vanes either
@The Good Life yep feathers fold flat where as plastic vanes do not and can bounce
The Bow is an ancient weapon and as such, there is no wrong way to loose arrows so long as they hit where you want them.
Very true. As long as they hit where you want them to.
True to a point, but you still want to avoid injuries that bad form can cause. You can't hit a target if your shoulder is blown out.
Sometimes people get so caught up in the gear that they forget their own bodies and instincts. I'm really enjoying your advice, attention to sensible gear, but not neglecting what makes sense to you and you alone. Not everything you do will work for me, but some of it will. Jeet Kun Do...
Very Well Said!
If it works for you it’s right for you
Agree 100%
Thank you for all your great videos! I am a compound bow hunter who’s always dreamed of going traditional, and this winter I’m finally getting into it. I did a little research, and I’m getting a Spyder XL (basically a Samick Sage for long draw). With the adjustable limbs I can start at 35 pounds and work up to 45, then 55 for low cost. My question is, would I have to buy different spined arrows each time? Could I shoot too stiff of an arrow at 35 pounds while getting technique down, and then it would the right spine as I moved up in draw weight? Or would the mechanics be all off? Am I better off buying cheap arrows to start, and then heavier spine when I get to my hunting draw weight? Thanks again!
You could do either. If it was me I would get arrows spine for 45 pounds as it will not take long to move up to the 45 pound range. But I still would not buy more than a dozen arrows until you settle into the weight yoy are going to shoot and hunt with regularly. Then you can buy more.
@@SamkoTradBow that sounds like a good approach, thanks! I would like to start heavier than 35#, but for just $80 for new limbs I figure it’s best to get used to shooting it first and go from there. Do you think a jump from 35 to 50 or 55 would be too much? Would I have to do 45 inbetween? I pull a 70# compound now with 31” draw. I’m 6’2” 205 pounds, do a lot of strength training (I know weightroom strong doesn’t equal hold a bow back strong)
@@jeffdeprey7382 keep in mind that recurve draw weight is at 28" of draw. Yoy add about 3-4 pounds of weight per in over 28". So if you draw thst bow 31" you will be 3 inches times 3.5 pounds or about 10 pounds. So your 35 pound limbs will really be 45ish at your draw length. I think that is a perfect starting point and once you are ready to go to the 40 or 45 pound limbs for a weight of 50-55 you will stop there.
@@SamkoTradBow I knew it added a little, just not that much. Thank you so much for your time and great videos!
That straight up and down shooting holding the bow like a compound must come from watching tournament archers. Guys getting into into traditional complain about not being able to shoot a long recurve or longbow because the bottom limb may hit the stand. I practice shooting my longbow in a lot of positions and one of them is almost horizontal. It can be done with practice. Some guys are amazed when they try canting and that it can be done.
Yep I always cant the bow. And like you, horizontal is a required practice sequence.