Blacksmithing - Forging a cooking tripod from re bar Camp fire tool Part.1 The Forging
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- Опубликовано: 14 ноя 2016
- Workingwithiron presents a quick video on Forging a Cooking tripod for a camp fire, to hang a dutch oven. Blacksmithing forging a loop
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Thank you for your video. I'm a retired cowboy from B.C.,Canada and I made my tri-pod 52 years ago for pack trips that could include up to 32 people. I have some rather large pot and weight is most often an issue. I formed mine out of 1/2" round stock 5'6", I find rebar tends to hang up on stuff and wear threw tarps on pack horses, etc. I slipped two of my eyes inside the third, that extra eye is a can of beans more I can take. I also have about 16" of an old long link 1/4" chain in that eye arrangement. At the bottom I have a 1/4" round stock, 6" wide, 8" long with a couple of turn up on the end to hold the pots handles. This allows me to raise and lower my pots, I later added a 1/2 a chain link to one leg so I could set a pot off to the side also. This served me well and is going along on a hunting trip next week. Mine's not better than your, just different, to suit my need. All the best to you and yours, Billy
i like this shared knowledge.....ive just save my canvas.....thankyou.
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Nice one of the most useful tools when camping. Good job.
You Sir have a gift.....beautifully formed rings. Consistancy with ellagance...
it's So good to see you back on your channel making videos, and making something that is near and dear to me. again giving me great ideas.
Cheers friend,
Brady
It's Great to be back, they WILL be more regular now at least one a week!
Excellent video, it should be called " a master class in forging eyes"
Lol, Just a few techniques and rules of bending is all. Even heat, Empty space and don't mess about with it too much, When its done, it's done! Cheers poshrat!
Thank you for sharing about making cooking tri pod made with rebar
I like your work :)
Very nice video, well done.
Thank you!
Great job👍🏻
Nice metal bending skills you got there. Just awesome
Cheers David! Even heat makes it look easy!
Your skill, makes it look easy !
Thats just what I was looking for thanks much !
Glad i can help!!
So this is a short video to test out some new software for editing. Unfortunately i messed up and it missed out a few parts such as measuring for the rings, and the end sequence, so will have to add a second part with that in it, and also the components to go with it, plus its a good excuse to go and camp under the stars and get some footage of using it. Hope you enjoy, either way. This is real time, so as you can see its a really easy project to start with.
This video demonstrates very clearly why I hate hand forging with a gas forge.
how come?
Because with a gas forge it is impossible to isolate the heat. In this video you have six or eight inches above the initial bend hot, which means that this area deforms when you make the bend. Then, you have to straighten it out on the anvil which puts hammer marks in to the pattern of the re-bar. When I say "you" here, I am speaking generally, not specifically of you. If I were to do this project I would do the bend with a torch so I didn't have to mess with the part above the bend, then heat the area for makling the loop in a coal forge. I don't mind using a gas forge for some things but mostly I prefer the control and isolated heating characteristics of solid fuel. I am in no way being critical of how you have done it. Just commenting on what I perceive to be the drawbacks of using gas.
100% agree! I love a solid fuel forge, for the reasons you have stated, which will be one of the next few vids as i am making one this week. Comments like this i love, from people with experience of using this type of forge, i hate the long lengths it gives, especially doing an upset as it takes so much longer having to quench it out then you lose the heat etc etc. Thanks for the input, it is really appreciated!
workingwithiron
This is what I like! I get to read what a couple of folks that know more than me compare their real life experiences. Thanks guys, I'm a pretty new, so to speak. i go in spits and spurts so I loose skill during my breaks from the forge. ATB, John.
Very relaxing
Thank you!
Also, if you don't have a forge, you can put rebar in the fire pit till it's red, then bend them around a small log, then burn the log out.
Awesome keep it up
Cheers mate, will be weekly vid's from now on, Thanks for stopping by to comment!
Awesome looking forward to them
quality man, I love me a 2ft hammer handle, weird to get used to but when ya have to give hot metal the holly, there's nothing better, gg
that made me laugh! Great stuff!!
Great thanks
Just found your channel. Awesome videos! Is there 2nd part to the campfire tripod? I cannot seem to find it.
Just wondering if you did the follow up for measurements for over all length and bends for the ring sizes? Think this could be my next project.
Great video! approximately how long are those rebar's?
Finished a bit short, hope it has a part 2 !
one day.....
Nice! 👍 I'm fairly new to this art, just about to receive my new anvil, tired of beating on a piece of train track. Is that a hydraulic forging press I see? if I may ask, how many ton is it and how large of billet, ie 1x1x4 inch, will it forge weld for damascus?
It is a fly press.... a very useful tool! This one is 2 tonne, and i would say its only good for bending. I think they go up to 12 tonne but if you want to do some good work with them, i would suggest going with a 6 and above as this thing will do welding no worries as you dont need a big hit, but to draw out a billet, not a chance! Go for an 8 and above for that type of work. I only use it for bending and tenons, nothing else. We all start somewhere, i have an old track i used to beat on too, but you will love the versatility of an anvil.
workingwithiron Thankyou, I've been forging with a torch, know the value of a forge, torch can't get the length up to the heat, but a torch is pinpoint. 👍 for your time spent here showing us your labour!
About how long of stock did you start with?
why doyou have such a long handle on your hammer? doesnt it just get in the way when swinging? or you actually use that often all that extra leverage? ty
This is hard to explain but i will give it a go.
The handle never gets in the way and if you watch it in slow mo you will see it never hits the arm. I was taught to use a handle that goes from the hammer head in the hand and the end of the handle to the elbow, so after 9 years of using this, my accuracy is pretty good, it helps with leverage, power, and the rebound as my hand is just the pivot and i don't squeeze the handle, just hold it lightly and guide it.
I find when using smaller handle lengths i am always at the end of the shaft and it doesn't really pivot, which makes the ball of the hand take the impact. Not good for long term forging as i don't choke the head as that affects the fingers also.
What i do when i forge is aim to hit the floor, never the work piece, i am always trying to go through the work, through the anvil to hit the floor so when it hits the work it is in the middle of the stroke then rebounds back up. Using a longer handle means the hammer is returned higher and hits harder without having to lift it up in turn giving me more power at the hit with a smaller weighted hammer.
You will see i only use the full length when I'm drawing stock out or trying to move a lot of mass, then on the bounce i move the hand up towards the head to have more control, such as the bending parts of the video. But that's all in the sub-concious i don't know i am doing so.
I also stand up straight and strike at 90-80 degrees of the anvil with the work at 90 degrees, this helps with this way of forging.
Hope this helps in some way and will like to do a video on it soon as its quite rare to see it done this way nowadays.
Cheers for the comment!
wow thans for the answer, you've been perfectly clear and its easily noticeable that you know what are you talking about, i was verry curious about your tecnique since, as you said at the end of the comment, i've never seen it done this way. as soon as you'll post the video i'm gonna definitely try that out since i have a couple of long handled hammers in the shop that i never used for said reasons
cheers from italy man
awesome!
Cheers Boss!
what size hammer is that and who made it?
Ray Boudreaux 1 3/4lb Jim Keith shoe turning hammer
Show, que bitola usou.
is that an arbor press in the background?
Cody Lynch its a fly press or a another name for it is a screw press
Was there a part 2 to this video ice work by the way
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Mate, I just found your channel, great stuff but you talk too much!!
It's great to see someone taking care with the appearance of their forgings, the way that you oriented the work piece to preserve the rebar pattern showed me that you are a step above the average craftsman
Hello! Is that weldable rebar or does it matter? Tks from the rookie!
Trent Bradberry it's just rebar, should weld no worries. Any small round or square stock would work for this.
workingwithiron Tks for responding. Yeah i have some but it's smaller diameter. So i looked at a hardware store online and noticed that there is different grades of rebar. Some are weldable and most are not. I'm just now starting to try to smith. Not sure how to tell what is high carbon good forging metel and what's not. I've always had my father's anvil so it's about time i try to whale on it! Thanks for your time.
Hightower One this project doesn't need any welding. You can use mid carbon, low carbon or wrought iron it won't matter. Lower carbon would be easier to work and cheaper. I just used this as I had it laying around otherwise I would have used mild steel. It's a fun journey!
when is part. 2 coming out?
Do you need air evacuation for a gas forge like you need for coal forges?
Yes, if using it in an enclosed space you need good ventilation as it
burns a lot of oxygen and produces a lot of carbon monoxide, As it is a
venturi effect it also draws oxygen into the forge so in turn takes it
from the atmosphere.
workingwithiron so open the door
You mean on the forge.... that outlet is enough, it comes with the opening about an inch high (i have cut a bigger opening). If i open the door it will burn out and waste a lot of gas and also drop the temp. Its like an oven at home, has enough air flow to keep it at temp but as soon as you open the door the heat escapes. I thought you meant in the workshop.
workingwithiron ok thanks for replying
you need to watch the carbon monoxide.
wondering why rebar wasn't used on the fourth piece(the ring)
using up my scrap pile, there was a piece of material perfect length for the smaller ring in round mild steel so just used that rather than cutting a bit off of a new length of rebar.
workingwithiron makes perfect sense,thanks for the reply!
What is use of this things?
Yo quiero.unonde esos
the diameter of the iron.
I really dislike instructional vedios that don't include instructions. He didn't give the lenght or diameter. Not one word.