7 Days to Die - Horde Base Breakdown - The Tower - New Alpha 20 Horde Base
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- In this 7 days to die horde base series I show off a horde base, run you through an in depth build tutorial, toss a 7 day horde at it, and then judge it. Usually that’s the plan. Sometimes when the base is just too big to cover in a single video, I do the base tour and horde night. I’ll close out with some ratings and upgrade options. The goal is to pack as much information into a short video to give insight and decide if this is the best horde base for you. As I move forward with this series, I'll be taking my prior A19 bases and putting them back through the gauntlet.
=== The Tower ===
This base was designed to play with the new circular mechanics in Alpha 20 and to teach you how to use some of the multi-block constructions. At the hard this is a simple door base with a pole entrance to force the zombie to fall and thin the horde while you mangle the ones in front.
PLEASE NOTE I HAVE AN UPDATED VERSION: • 7 Days to Die - Horde ...
If you are building this in your world, take creative liberty and modify it! Let me know what you build with this is a starting point. Meet me down in the comments to tell me how this base looks and if you are going to give it a try!
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Chapters:
0:00 - 0:54 Base Overview
0:55 - 16:59 Base Built Tutorial
17:00 - 20:00 Horde Night
20:01 - 21:15 Base Rating
21:16 - 22:09 Frosthaven Reveal
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The videos are awesome! Just what I was looking for!
Sweet!! Thank you!
You sold me on the tower design. Looks awesome. Works well. The expanded base is beautiful. Good job! I'm subbing
Thanks kindly and welcome to the channel!
These videos are pretty great. The new shapes, especially the round ones are really fun to play with. We can finally make appropriate looking castles and towers. Hope to see some more creative builds in the future.
I'm completely with you here. I'm kind of on a tower/castle bender because we've never had the option like this in the past.
Well that didn't last very long 🤪
@@electricblue8196 check the pinned comment or my community tab! I have a fix out already for the patch changes to block health!
Your channel is an awesome resource for 7DTD! I really appreciate your detailed walkthrough of this base. I plan on trying to re-create it on my current playthrough.
Thanks so much for the feedback!!! Means the world.
Great video, Eko! Your walk through of the circle shapes was super helpful. 👍👍
Thanks so much Jimmy!!
Wow this is a great build, I was really struggling to see how the circle shapes really worked! Thanks for excellent video!
Glad it helped!
how am i only finding you now, great editing, great walkthrough, great ratings, all round you did a fantastic job, subscribed for more :)
Thank you for your kind words! The youtube algorithm is an arcane beast - it has been kind to me with A20 though! Welcome to the channel!
Exactly what I'm thinking
Yo!! This person has saved the day, nah year I bet for myself. Best tutorial video yet! Keep it up. Much appreciated 🙏
Woot! Glad it helped!
Good video and holy cow that glimpse of that base at the end is amazing with the electrical fences and all going through it... so thinking of building something like that myself.
Check out the full version of Frosthaven here if you didn't catch it --> ruclips.net/video/kBp_WtZgjL0/видео.html
I was recommended a video of yours the other day, regarding the different block value changes and such, and was a great video and I subbed. Then I checked out the maw videos and was fantastic. Really enjoying your content and really helps just spark ideas as well.
Thanks so much Shawn and welcome to the channel!
expandability was a big part of what I was thinking while you were building this, thanks for adding that bit at the end of your ratings an walking through each aspect. Eager to see the additions on the Frosthaven/larger version of this and how it plays out.
Glad you found it helpful!
real nice video will help alot ty soooooooo much
Quite welcome!!
Great content man!!!!
Thanks so much Greensquad!
@@WaywardEko no man thank you, I’m just starting out in the 7d2d RUclips space so I’m just learning everything, you are one of my greatest inspiration.
These type of comments make the work all worth while. If you run into questions - jump on my discord or join the community server!
I can't wait to build a superbase with these new rounded shapes, and also with the new ramps!
I'm in the process of a monster one on my community server! Looking forward to showing it off once I'm done.
Loved the clear description of what to do with splitting blocks. The amount of options are beyond insane for types of bases. I am looking at sinking my teeth in finally this weekend i might just jump into the comm server and learn things there. Was going to just go single player all weekend but i think id rather hear the ideas and tips from the Eko family. I also have an idea for a base ive wanted to do for close to 2 years now which might be possible with the new shapes.
We would love to have you back. Crunk has been going nuts. Also we are testing out the new biome modifiers by moving our bases into the wasteland and snow biomes.
I subscribed instantly when I saw the checkboard with the numbers I it, the effort.
Thanks Geralldo! I find it hard to follow build vids sometimes, so I really like having the grid to make counting easier for folks!
@@WaywardEko for some reasn I never able to comment or reply. keep up the goo work
Thanks for the vid! Def going to use this for my Whiskey Tower build, might even once I get some flatland found go whole hog and start building a castle. Having rounded edges def helps with the aesthetic of more modern castles.
Do the full castle and let me know how it turns out! I’m doing a massive castle on my community server. I have 100k concrete mix sitting and have already go e through 50k.
Subbed right away !came from the ps4 to 7dtd went to PC and still hoping it comes to full alpha state some day for the ps4 ! thx u for ur time and videos!
Welcome aboard Michael! They did mention console ports in the dev streams last fall -- will have to wait for the gold version to come out. Hope you can join us on PC in the meanwhile!!
I’m liking the concept! Thinking about using a version of this, just built for two to fight rather than one.
If you are going to use over time, I would consider going up more. When I showcase Frosthaven - you'll see some options for how to do that easily - also leaving space between levels for wiring.
nicely done!
Thank you!
Great build! Love the form and function coming together. They put out and update 2 days after you posted this that makes the plates and poles have less hit points, so maybe full blocks for the roof but that's no big deal.
Check the pinned comment or my community post! I have reworked the front entrance, but you are absolutely that you could replace the roof with solid blocks. Or if you had already built it you could slap another layer on top!
Its back to old hp again :D :D
just build it, and i love it so far, it's day 7, 6pm horde night incoming XD
thanks for the build i love it count me as a new sub
Thanks kindly!!
I look forward to seeing Frosthaven in action! My group of 3 of us are looking for a cool MP Base Build idea and this struck our fancy.
This one has some fun stuff and different fighting positions.
THANK YOU!
Welcome!!
Nice Concept eko 👍😁
Thanks Erik!!
If I were to make one note, I'd suggest using the copy shape function after you have at least one of each block type you want placed in the world. Cuts down searching times pretty drastically, especially when repeating complicated structures.
Agreed. I use a combination of multiple blocks in the tool bar as well as the shape copy now.
Nice you can shift & left click rather than drag and drop items.
I'm going to build this base right now. Very nice work.
Make sure you check out the v2 version as I made some changes after some of the updates changed pathing
look forward to the new build
Thanks so much!!
Lol never thought about splitting the blocks so you have multiple shapes lol thank you
Makes life a little easier!
I like your design and details tower casle
Thanks kindly Karson!
I like that you can build a castle, a keep and a round tower now.
There are so many more options. Already building a completely different cast structure on my community server now.
@@WaywardEko O very cool
cool video
Thanks kindly!
This seems to be the only base showcase on your channel. Plan to do more? I subbed for this content mostly.
I sure do! And I have a whole playlist of horde bases! ruclips.net/p/PLDRZ6PYEiJSLkron4N6PiGZLTdgW9RQK7
Holding R you can copy block shapes from the radial menu, FP need to make a pick shape button. Perhaps like Minecraft and Satisfactory and use the middle mouse button. I find myself trying to do it constantly lol. They seem to have code that could me modified to be bound to a key, is what I thought when I saw the copy shape option it just wasn't fully utilized.
I couldn't agree with you more. This would be an amazing quality of life update. Interestingly enough - if you are in the prefab editor, that is how it works - basically same as minecraft.
Make sure you use the copy block function in the shortcut wheel its a massive time saver since you only need a single block in your bars, once the basic plan is set up.
I go back and forth and use both -- that said I should have used more of the copy shape / copy rotation on this one so people got more familiar with it.
@@WaywardEko its all good mate, having issues currently where the inventory sometimes doesn't close/items can't be moved and i get a console error - and infinite screamers spawning at night when i tunnel leading to infinite spawns of mobs and the games AI systems can't keep up and it often leads to the zombies not being able to move with a game crash. You can also double spawn a horde if you log out of a game at midnight and log back into your world and the horde will last until 4am resulting in x2 a 64 horde for additional loot without cheats or dev tools.
Hello Folks - so when things jumped from experimental (where this was recorded) to stable, they changed zombie pathing! I reworked the base to accoun for it, so check out the updated version here: ruclips.net/video/iACbtSeHNIE/видео.html
build 231 went out, poles are now @25% HP (so 2500 instead 10k for steel) and plates @50%, I think you will have redo all you prepared after this one. Also bars after iron upgrade to concrete and steel making them weaker than they used to be ...
@@klonik79 yeah - just read all the patch notes - will immediately invalidate 90% of base designs out there. Not sure what they are trying to do or if they under the ramifications of these changes.
@@WaywardEko Well it is somewhat logical to do also I noticed they like to drop every alpha new spanner into how we build bases, as not to cheese out mechanics. My new favorite block is Block 1/2 1m hole. has full health very good visibility even if you stack two back to back, nice to shoot through and quite decent even for melee, also you did not pin this, so lots of folks will have trouble to find edited amends to base
I just used this same design, expect had a square tower instead of circular and my day 14 horde collapsed my tower around 1am, lol. I didn't think it was needed to make my tower with a solid 5x5 thick concrete base, and used just 4, single block wide 5 tall pillars in each corner as legs. The bridge lasted the whole time, but I could hear zombies bashing away beneath me and knew it was only a matter of time, if they were doing what I suspected... Out of nowhere, the floor, walls and ceiling all collapse, I survive the fall and get hit a few times running for my minibike. Hop on it for the getaway and after about 5 feet, I stall... Ran outta gas like a noob... First death, horde night, day 14...
Honestly square vs round shouldn't matter -- you are experiencing the difference in how zombies attack when falling that was introduced with the stable version. I add in additional stairs that helped significantly and made the entry more broad. Here is the v2 version I created: ruclips.net/video/iACbtSeHNIE/видео.html
One question, how do you make them feel attracted to climb the ladder? they break my entire base on the sides.
Good video keep it up!
Thanks Nenufar -- did you see the v2 version of this that I put out? They dropped a patch after I released this vid that changed zombie AI -- I reworked the base to account for that change here: ruclips.net/video/iACbtSeHNIE/видео.html
There are those neat buttings: copy shape and copy rotation. They do save a lot of time.
I do it half that way and half slitting the blocks apart. I really wish there was the middle mouse button click to copy shape/rotation vs/ the holding R.
@@WaywardEko yeah a dedicated button would surely help. I just thought that if this is supposed to be for new people, or old coming back it would be helpful to just mention clearly that can copy shape as well as rotation is there and working properly which makes thing a lot easier if not this time, some other time. Nice design thanks for the video!
"These plates have the same health as a full block."
Checks patch notes.
Well damn...
Yeah ... I read the patch notes and thought ... well that didn't age well :) Just slap some solid blocks on the ceiling!
Aged well again, they just reverted the hp changes
how does biom effect horde night? im considering moving ours to the winter biom, is it harder? more xp? thanks for the great video btw
The horde groups are all fixed lists of zombies, with difficulty only based on gamestage. Additionally XP won't change -- now what will change is your loot. You will get the following modifier to you loot stage (+2.0x (100%) modifier and +20 bonus).
I've been using this, was great for the first 3 hordes. Moved to snow and rebuilt, made the bottom 3 levels steel, and made a 4th underground foundation level of steel, with 3 width steel floor around it because of holes in the terrain. Reworked the opening to accomodate a punchy turret on the side of it. Day 42 horde they brought the tower down.
Did they go for the base of the tower or did they overwhelm the entrance?
@@WaywardEko They went through the base of the tower, starting under the door. I built a catwalk out of bars that went all the around so i could clear strays. Few hits at a time they broke one block then crawled into the hole and it went quick from there. Most all still went up the bridge, I even opened a crawlspace hole behind the sledge turret so they'd see a clear line all the way to me. Had zero problems with the bridge, just gotta figure out a new defense around the base of the tower.
FYI - dropping v2 of this tomorrow to address the zombie AI changes that came out with the stable release --> ruclips.net/video/iACbtSeHNIE/видео.html
well, the round tower build got my 'click'...and the wan..no, need, to see this 'Frost Haven' got my sub! nice job...oh, and I'm TOTALLY NOT going to cop...stea...um...I shall admire your design with no larcenous intent!
You should absolutely beg, borrow, and steal shamelessly! That's what I love about this community. We all steal ideas from each other and then add our own twist. Eventually something new pops out as a result!
Editing at the start👌🏼
I absolutely love making the intros to these.
I may want to join the community server when the next update drops and you guys make a new world. Do you also have a discord?
Edit: My dumb ass didn't even check the vid description lol nice vid!
Thanks! Yup - all the links are below in description! All the folks on the server are super helpful - so just asked for help when you hop on or jump in voice chat.
@@WaywardEko sound's fun and cool man appreciate it!
you should make one how to make a winding staircase!
I did!! ruclips.net/video/2jwiZ6Bk1io/видео.html
So how do you make them funnel only down the bridge. I followed the same format they didn't use the bridge at all once I slapped up iron gates did I need to leave a open gap like you did?
Did you see the version 2 of this that I made? It corrects pathing issues that were introduced with alpha 20 stable. It walks though how to update the v1 version as well.
Glad to see that 7dtd isn't going into "that minecraft zombie game" direction
Sure doesn't look like it!
I think you could do multiplayer with this base just fine. Throw some guys on the roof. They could shoot down at the hordes from up there. Maybe one guy could watch for vultures.
You could certainly do it! Would just start to get crowded.
At 6:52 when you place your first 4 walls on . What's are you using for that I can't get my walls to line up they either sit to far apart or overhang nothing line up correctly
If you need to you can point at the block below, hold down R, and then select copy shape. Then you can repeat that and the do copy rotation.
@@WaywardEko I WILL give it a try i still got it build just not perfect ty
I've built similar but the zoms don't want to cross thin walkways so I have normal width blocks and a sledge turret just to the side of my fighting position.
It is my opinion that pathing shifted in 20.4. None of the patch notes mention it ... but I had bases that previously operated fine on 20.3 have issues in 20.4/20.5.
Could you put a separate platform up to toss a sledge turret up to knock them off the beam or would it be too far away since the beam is narrow
You could directly attach it or build a little pillar stand next to it for sure.
@@WaywardEko ok cool, gonna try it out
Here is a tip. If you pass the position you want of a block when rotating, you can hit R on the keyboard to go back.
ah heck, thanks for this!
Holy crap that is amazing!
Question, how does the soil connect up with the curved blocks?
Past alphas always left a noticeable gap with square blocks.
If you were to try extending the round structure down into the ground, would the soil extend into the block's area, or would there be a void where the block leaves an empty space for the curve?
They haven't solved for that entirely. It still just doesn't square up well. I'm currently building another castle on my community server and am going to play with placing soil back around the edges going up instead trying to make it flush if that makes sense. There is a block that looks like the rounded parts w/ a lip on the bottom the width of a plate - haven't played with that yet though.
@@WaywardEko
There are 2 environmental "blocks" that I wish worked better then they do, the aforementioned soil/terrain blocks finishing flush with building blocks, and water not creating air pockets due to a building blocks shape.
I wanted to make an indoor farming franchise to add to my games, but the water physics were just too janky for my liking.
Once there's a stable build, I'll give it another crack, but for now I'll be looking forward to what you can do with regards to the terrain blocks
That will work until you get tourists and lumberjacks, cause if one of em starts hitting a random block its over(cause you can forget getting concrete or metal before they come). The bridge would work til endgame if you have some zap lines and something to take care of the ones getting lost. I hate how they made melee almost useless late game but that bridge gave me an idea cause it controls the flow. The complete version was nice looking thou :D
Yeah - for sure this little guy will need some upgrades to take you to end game. I have several people using this whole have breezed through the first 4 horde nights. The new pathing is very odd and sometimes hard to predict.
tried this base out thought the look was really cool and such, i had issues with zombies breaking through the bottom a bit more then they did in your video, any idea why?
Apologies ecopocolips -- I thought I had linked the updated video version at the top. I released this during experimental and they changed the pathing. Afterwards I made this video that shows how to fix it. Check the timestamps if you want to jump to the end where I show how to change the original version to the v2 version: ruclips.net/video/iACbtSeHNIE/видео.html
@@WaywardEko thank you! BTW just discovered your content and I think you make great clear concise videos, keep up the great work.
@@ecopocolips will do!!
Hello all, left click will rotate clockwise, so if you build in CW direction it is only 1 click needed before place, alternatively press R for the CCW rotation if you are building up in a counter-CW fashion
3 right turns = making 1 left turn and all. I do like these towers too
I think it was right after this video that I found out the magic of R for reverse rotation. You are spot on. That has been a massive time saver for me!
coool beans
tasty beans.
How do you get building overlay that shows the level ground addon?
Are you talking about the checkerboard grind on the ground? I just painted blocks to make that so it was easier to follow block placement on the tutorial.
@@WaywardEko great idea
How is that Tower working at a High Stage ? Specialy since the Zombies now also have a 50% chance to go in destruction Mode when they fall down.
Honestly it's not working at a low stage after the stable version. I'm releasing The Tower v2 tomorrow that address the zombie AI change. This base was never meant to hand late game stage -- you would need to get more creative and add traps. I think one of the key tricks for any bridge style base after the change is to implement some electric fences where the zombies fall to stop the rage mode - ideally paired with grenade chutes. That said -- Frosthaven (ruclips.net/video/kBp_WtZgjL0/видео.html) was meant to be a potential evolution of this base.
Whats the point in making the building itself circular? Couldn't it just be a normal square shape with the kill ramp?
Honestly the only reason is aesthetic. From a function standpoint It doesn’t change anything. It just gives the builder types the ability to make something different other than a box :)
Think if I use a knife for this one, would it be ok or just not enough DPS?
You could get by for the first horde night. Are you spec'ing into Agility I assume?
Man my bases are always purely utilitarian, I really need to work on my creative/beautification skills lol.
I might spend a little too much time with the paint brush on my bases ... but I really like them to feel cozy.
Did they change the way these things work? Every time I build one I follow the exact step by sstep and the zombies just break in under me instead of running up the stairs.. what the hell?
I'm going to run some additional testing this coming week and see if I need to release an update. The stable version did screw with things a little. The one change that I know has worked for many people is filling in the entire bottom section and making sure everything at the 2nd block is upgraded as far as you can take it.
@@WaywardEko Gonna try this method. I stupidly put my storage room down there so now i have a lot of moving to do lol
FYI - dropping v2 of this tomorrow to address the zombie AI changes that came out with the stable release --> ruclips.net/video/iACbtSeHNIE/видео.html
I've been having some problems with the base, they always seem to go for the bottom and not along the poles, would having traps and stuff change their pathing completely?
2 big things will help -- if that pole is too long, they will decide it isn't worth it and just go for the bottom. Also reinforce the area around the bottom to the max if you can - and then double the thickness. Zombie AI simply looks for the shortest route to you, so if you beef up where you don't want the zombies to go, they will ignore that and path as you want them to.
@@WaywardEko I wanted to suggest Eko, that at the top of the stairs up, instead of that triangle top, put some bars or an upside down U shape block and when zombies jump over it, they miss the pole and fall down (sometimes) buys you more time to shoot them
@@milotin - absolutely an option! I ended up removing that entirely in another build because they were getting frustrated and just pounding on that block. This is just a rough template and expect folks to play around with it!
@@Duhastmage thanks for saying that, it helped a lot
FYI - dropping v2 of this tomorrow to address the zombie AI changes that came out with the stable release --> ruclips.net/video/iACbtSeHNIE/видео.html
how did you get into creative ? we have rented 1 server and cannot assess creative
I know on ping perfect there is an option to turn it on -- it's in the config. I'm sure it's different for each host.
If ur gonna use the CM menu then you could've gotten Lanterns instead of torches, torches do attract Screamers you know, unless they've changed that.🤔😊
I was thinking to stay within the reality of a 7 day horde base :) Normally don't stumble across actual lanterns for a while.
@@WaywardEko
Oh, ok.😊
candles
@@methuso - I never use them, they're too weak to me plus they draw Screamers too.🤔 I like a lot of light so I'd have to use too many and draw Screamers.😫
Still using a ramp with one wide path to a hatch and it’s still the king . 2 sledge turrets on the outside and you can almost AFK hordenights due to zombies not being able to hit the hatch before being yeeted. And yeah it’s a shame they nerfed the cool block designs so now no one gunna use them if they care about maximising the defence of their base
Yeah the old strategies still are some of the best! Now in regards to the block changes - I’m going to put out a video discussing how to combat that shift and still have your base looks good!
Bases that don't have to be square! Builders rejoice.
Amen!
Hey they just updated poles and plates have less health now
Roger that - check the pinning comment at the top! I have an adapted version. I also posted some pictures on my community tab (ruclips.net/user/WaywardEkocommunity) that should help!
This may not work now with the latest update. Zombies that fall can now go into destroy mode.
That has been in place since A19. There's always a % chance. This base still functions -- you will just need to make the foundation upgraded more than the entrance to make sure they go for the door.
@@WaywardEko The chance of destroy mode has increased drastically with Alpha 20 Stable B238. Jawoodle did an episode on it where he's had to change his killing corridor
I'm going to do some additional testing - I'll check out Jawoodles. In the meanwhile -- filling in the center should still make this one work.
FYI - dropping v2 of this tomorrow to address the zombie AI changes that came out with the stable release --> ruclips.net/video/iACbtSeHNIE/видео.html
@@WaywardEko love it! Thanks dude!
like super
THanks!
It's not working anymore for me. Right now was my second horde and they started to hit the tower constantly not any of them went up to the bridge.
Yeah - patch 238 seems to have caused all kinds of insanity. We had a horde night in the community server last night where we have 2 draw bridge entrances and the just murdered the bridges.
@@WaywardEko I tried a ground base a basic killing corridor test with double walls around. They started to hit the walls and reach me through. They only went around into the corridor when I went outside the horizontal columns. Now they only find path to you if there is nothing between you and them. Otherwise they will literally drill through everything to reach you. The AI is a mess now. Also I heared the experimental was much more stable than this in field of bugs and crashes.
I'm confused how this works... Because I remember 7 pimps changing the zombies behavior when fall down trying to get to you they turn to "destroy all surrounding blocks" mode. So, what's going on?
There is a % change when zombies fall that is influenced by how far the fall to go into rage mode. This basic format has been functioning for the last few alphas. The majority just turn around and run back up the stairs.
@@WaywardEko So, I just created this base and the majority of the zombies bang on the pillar structure instead of going around to take the stairs again. Any idea why is this happening?
I mean I knew from the first time I saw this that it shouldn't work. However it seems to work for you. What's the secret?
@@AlbaderBohamad One difference is that I recorded this during the experimental build. With the final stable build there was a shift to the zombie AI that we are all seeing. My recommendation to combat that is to fill the bottom section in solid. That should make a significant different. Additionally I would reinforce the 2nd level exterior to as high as you can. Will let you know after my testing.
FYI - dropping v2 of this tomorrow to address the zombie AI changes that came out with the stable release --> ruclips.net/video/iACbtSeHNIE/видео.html
@@WaywardEko
Awesome! I'm definitely tuning in.
I actually watched a video on RUclips, forgot his channel name but definitely deserves credit. Where he shows that even the corridor base is doable in A20 by using a trick with sheets.
I did his trick with your tower design and it's somewhat working great. You basically have to replace the first 2 blocks of the structural support block with sheets. However, you need to place the bottom sheet facing the bottom and then on top of it goes the 2nd sheet facing the top. This way you have a 2 block gap that your base is sitting on. It looks like it's floating.
The idea is that now zombies don't have something to break when they go into destroy area mode.
The only downside to this is that your daze is sitting on blocks with 500 hit points.
Did someone actually tested this on horde night in b238? Got a few wandering hordes during building and they just attacked the tower. I suspect it had to do with them not having feral sense they would have on horde night, but I'm slightly concerned right now because horde night is tonight...
Have you reinforced the bottom two layers around the tower? Also filling in the bottom section will further let dissuade them.
@@WaywardEko I reinforced 3 rings up. I would assume if they don't know my exact position they would go for the walls. Should change during horde night, hopefully. Might have time to fill the base, but I was planing to integrate this tower into a compound with tunnels leading to inside the tower.
@@DunnickFayuro can fill all but center if need be. Pathing has been wacky.
I'm using the center of it as a ladder to the underground storage/craft area. Everything worked perfectly until the b238, 7th night went very well, only one decided to hit the side of the stairs, but 14th night was a nightmare all of it without any exception just started to beat the tower under me. 4 bottom layer reinforced into cobblestone, the arena part reinforced at the side of the bridge. Nothing could lure them up. I died after midnight and they're gone.
@@mechgyver3344 Thanks for the heads up. 1h30 till the horde. Not much I can do. I guess I'll enjoy a lower gamestage after that :P
i was wondering if anyone had ever made a horde base that leads zombies to a working vending machine blocking the path so they spend all night attacking it & getting electricuted? would it work? does it eventually get destroyed?
I've not seen that done -- they would eventually tear through it though just like any block. I've died to them attacking and blowing up cars.
@@WaywardEko i wonder if you can build explodable cars around the base in alpha 20? theres a mod in fallout 4 that makes explosions much more devastating.. its fun but scary when doing survival mode... one car blows up another car and another and you get a chain reaction, so you can die even when you was like 300m away from the first car..
You can always edit the game files and change an explosive item’s blast radius and entity/block damage. In alpha 5 I would do this with a stack of oil barrels from bedrock to street level and start my base in the newly formed quarry.
I thing you need to enhance your video editing to make it more dynamic and more flat at the same time. Some cuts like 4:54 it's kinda ruff...
No hate, only advising.
Yeah - that wasn’t an editing choice :). That was bad rendering that I missed in final review cause it was 4:30am and I was too tired. Not hate taken - always learning and trying to improve!
And if that Frosthaven is starting at 3.5M dukes😅.
Then you best start saving your dukes!
Very interesting design, the only comment I have is there is no way to fight vultures. I would add blocks above that you could shoot through. I know you said this is early game base, so this might not be a issue.
You could absolutely toss bars or any other block to shoot through on the roof to deal with vultures - my strategy is just to ignore them. They typically don't do enough damage to break through your ceiling even at late game stages.
Did the video black out for anybody else at 5:00?
Yeah - I had a render issue that I missed before uploading. This is what happens when you QA your video at 4am :) Sorry about that!
@@WaywardEko Gotcha, no worries. Still a cool vid!
So you're the reason for the health nerf on poles and smaller blocks haha.
Guilty as charged! I mean ... it's kinda been a common meta - though let's see if they look at how I adapted and nerf that ... then I can take credit!
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Thanks kindly!
Definitly not viable in Alpha 21, found out the hard way, just barely survived. Not a single zombie even when for the stairs or they balancing beam, they all immediately went for my towers base. They have altered and improved the zombie AI so they attack in different directions on horde night to keep you on toes, so I don't know if drawing them into one central local will be viable anymore.
Grin - this one wasn't viable after one of the A21 experimental patches -- I did make an update to this that should still be viable -> ruclips.net/video/iACbtSeHNIE/видео.html
@@WaywardEko I think I must be screwing up your build somehow then unfortunately, I followed the stairs strategy in the other vid, and the blocks are all placed correctly. But they are going for the base of the tower regardless, ignoring the stairs. I'm guessing its less total block HP to get through the 1 cement block base than it is the multiple pieces of window trim + T piece.
@@Agiantpansy For pathing zeds try to get to your elevation first and then attack. Curious ... is the bottom portion of the base empty or filled in?
@@WaywardEko >is the bottom portion of the base empty or filled in?
Ah, I bet that's my issue, no wonder. Its just the cement tower wall and then I was using the interior space for storage. I'll fill it in with concrete and move storage to the fighting level.
thanks for the feedback
so fun story me and girlfreaind wanted to make a hored base so I made her this and just before the hored night we made a 3 feet (brick rather) deep treanch as wide as the base of the tower just under the walkway for the zombies so when they fall they all fall down into the pit work so stupidly well that we did not even need to really kill anything they just fell down and died
Nice! Did you put spike traps down there? Fall damage is a % of their health I believe and is fairly small.
1300 blocks ain't daunting its HEAVEN :) I play on xbox n I doubt I even have 130 blocks:(
For builders it is heaven -- I agree! For non-builder types they are overwhelmed!
dont think that would survive on modpack Undead Legacy , it would be melted on BloodMoon
It would work fine through first couple bloodmoons on UL - that said, I've honestly move toward more POI bases in UL due to resource costs. Only difference I would make would be to add ladders to the side of the stairs.
No longer really viable with the small pole blocks, as of today the patch reduced their health by 75%. reducing a concrete block from 5000 HP to only 1250.
I completely agree! Check my comment pinned at the top or my community page (ruclips.net/user/WaywardEkocommunity) - I posted pictures of a fix that will account for the change!
@@WaywardEko Very nice! already ahead of the game =) keep up with the awesome content!
Castlevania got nothing on this base.
That's some high Praise! Thanks Pixel!
It's so sad that because of the lazy development combat wise, the only good base right now is a tower with a 1block wide walkway.
Anything else is kinda useless for min maxers because it requires unneccesary repairs.
I love this comment so much because I feel it. For me it's not even about min-max anymore. It's a question of how much time do I want to spend playing the game and building vs repairing. I was really hoping that A20 would shake up the base meta a bit more.
@@WaywardEko Yeah, having just discovered you I was trying to upgrade the winding staircase into the twisted castle, but then I saw this. It's a lot less effort to build and works nicely. Even with the stupid unneeded vindictive change to the blocks (same material cost for build and upgrade as a full HP block to add insult to injury, fuck you Gazz!) the original bridge still seems to work fine, although I only just finished day 21 horde and I play with 25% zed block damage, they just don't seem to get a chance to pile up anyway because they will push each other off. The single trapdoor provides perfect spacing to melee but not get hit back.
I agree it is sad that this is really the only effective design now. Although that is not to take anything away from this, I think it's a great design on many levels - ease of building & maintenance, fun to use, expandable, room for friends. This was also a great tutorial on the new build system, even as someone who has played since A7 I am lost every update as they reinvent the wheel every time.
Now this last horde I did have a problem with a lot of them whacking the tower base. They even broke 1 block. This is since I upgraded it all to concrete, although I made it a hollow core. Going to try making it solid and see if that dissuades them. I'm not sure if they're seeing it as a shorter path to me or just getting stuck.
Really looking forward to you revealing the full castle, trying to reverse engineer it in the meantime since I need the space. Going to be daring (or maybe just lazy) and make horde and main 1 base. I'm hoping your going to show enough detail to build, it's always good to find a base design that includes a starter and stages to grow into endgame.
@@Krougal - so glad this is working for you! Did you see my recommendations on block changes? Updated the pinned comment and that helps a bunch and am going to do a full video on how to address the block challenges next week. Frosthaven will drop on Monday but won’t be an in depth tutorial, but you should get the idea. Doing tutorials on these really large builds is really time intensive and I’m hoping to do some in the coming year S time allows! Right now I’m trying to get as many ideas and concepts out to people as possible to get them going in a20! Thanks for watching!
@@WaywardEko I did. That's what I'm saying though, the original design seems fine. They constantly knock each other off (like if I have to run up to the roof to deal with cliff-racers). This is with 64 zombies.
The tower base is where they are misbehaving. I'm not sure what is making it more attractive at the moment. They might be getting stuck somehow and frustrated. I mean with the 25% damage rating to tear through even a few concrete blocks is more than just some casual beating by passerby. They seem to be spawning mostly behind me of course, because Murphy. Will see on day 28 with solid core although I plan on adding the flanking towers by then.
I hear ya on time constraints. A quick overview of the foundation level and maybe a fly-by of the wiring would be a big help. Enjoying your other videos as well!
@@Krougal totally misread the comment before - fill in the bottom and that should change their pathing. The only other potential change is the shorten the bridge but that distance should be ok. It’s painful what they come from opposite side. Hang out the back door and shoot them :)
none of this is on ps4
Nope - console stuck back a ways unfortunately.
@@WaywardEko tragic i be so mad watching videos “why cant i do this”
Kind of sad the devs changed the block durability, smaller blocks are now up to 75% weaker, so nice creative designs aren't as viable anymore. Stick to straightforward full blocks instead.
I just saw this. Not even sure how to react. I get the logic, but it will further nerf melee during horde night and make bases less interesting. I have to think on how to pivot. Knee jerk reaction is that this is a horrible change
@@WaywardEko imo one of the best things about 7 Days was how you could be creative and build aesthetically pleasing structures without having to worry about mismatched durability. With the update, building boring rectangular bases seems like the better strategy because if you build a creative base that happens to use nerfed blocks it's going to probably throw off the AI pathing.
It's weird because they added in all these awesome new blocks, simplified and consolidated the upgrade path so all the blocks upgrade the same way, then punish the players who favour using the new blocks over basic cubes. Was an odd decision for them to have made. I really hope they don't decide to further nerf durability based on shape in future updates.
@@richardjessnitz761 game balance isn’t their strong suit and I’m not sure they even understood the implications of the change to be honest.
@@WaywardEko I tend to agree with you on that. Alpha 20 was all about the build overhaul, during the dev streams they putva lot of focus on marketing all the new shapes, it's like they kept saying "look at all the stuff you can build" and then the first update forces players to pick between either form or function exclusively.
I can only hope they get enough backlash that they rethink it. Especially criticism from content creators, because they'll definitely listen then. The inclusion of Twitch integration (a feature that only a tiny fraction of the player base cares about) shows they're very focused on what content creators have to say.
this sucked so bad i died so fast after they broke my tower, at least put a warning that it doesnt work anymore
It was in the description in all CAPS.
PLEASE NOTE I HAVE AN UPDATED VERSION: ruclips.net/video/iACbtSeHNIE/видео.html
So much time wasted rotating to make sure stuff is facing the right way when you have a layer below you to copy rotation AND even the shape if you need to.
Different strokes -- on the circle it's a constant 3 rotations each time. If the copy rotation/shape was on the middle mouse like prefab editor it would be faster, but holding down R isn't super quick.
@@WaywardEko Would be cool if they added that keybind/shortcut for sure. I still think it's much faster than having to type and search and make sure you've got the right matching one and to match rotation. But you're right, different strokes. Might be worth mentioning in future build guides though so your viewers, especially newbs, understand their options. I think the copy function is at least more newb friendly, but there's something to be said for memorizing exactly what goes where.