An other important element of choice for me, is the ease of cleaning. That's why I consider the Fiorenzato AllGround a better option than the Eureka Libra for example.
Hi Charles we are 2 people home drinking primarily 2 milky drinks each per day. Lattes, cappuccinos, etc. I am actually using a Baratza sette 270WI wich very convenient because of its automatic weight system. I do have the opportunity of buying a new Ceado E37S. My question is: "will I notice any real difference in cup changing from my Baratza to the Ceado?" Better built quality, noise, speed and longevity are not issues for me, but cup taste is .Thanks for your opinion.
Hi there! Those two grinders are very different in terms of burr size and shape. Typically a flat burr grinder (like the Ceado) will taste more like a well rounded, traditional shot. The conical style (your current Sette) adds a little more personality and dimension with the slight variance in particle size. If you were leaning towards the flat burr style, we prefer the Eureka line of grinders compared to Ceado based on consistency and reliability.
Hi Charles!!! I love how you explain your videos...I have to buy a coffee grinder but I'm between the Eureka Specialita and the Rocket Espresso. I don't know what to do. They both have positive and negative things. Both can be programmed in one or two cups depending on the time (seconds). The rocket is cleaner when it comes to grinding coffee, as the Eureka always leaves coffee residue on the table. Also, the burrs of the Rocket are 5 mm smaller (compared to the 55 mm of the Eureka) and it has a 50 watt's motor that is less powerful than the Eureka. I've read reviews from Rocket where customers say the screen is problematic (very sensitive and sometimes gives problems) and needs to be fixed quite often. On the other hand, I've also read that the Eureka has a timer that is quite difficult to set, but I don't understand why this is said when the grinding set is the same wheel system. So, which grinder would you think is the best and why? Can you honestly tell me what you think about both of them? I'm sure, that clarity will help me take the decision!
Great grinders, great presentation. I have a question: people always say 'invest in a good grinder', however, what is the minimum standar of a good grinder for home espresso lover? The reason I ask this question is that the standard and price of 'a good grinder' can be no ceiling or the ceiling is too high for many people. If you could point to one or two specific grinders that meet the minimum standard, that would be great. I would guess that one of which is Baratza Sette? Thanks.
Comparing the conical burrs of the sette 270 and the flat 55mm burrs of the Eureka Mignon Specialita, which would hold up better in the cup for milk drinks? would the general distinction in the flavor profile of the conical vs flat hold here?
Great question. As I mentioned in the video the differences can be pretty subtle. Our first recommendation for those trying to discern between conical and flat is to go to coffee shops that use one or the other (or better yet one with both). A subtle difference in taste is hard to describe so nothing beats personal experience here. With both of these burrs being on the smaller side the gap is that much narrower. If you're not already a loyal fan of one burr type or the other, I'd suggest focusing in more on the other differences in build quality, speed, noise, etc. If you find that you're a big fan of conical though, it's hard to beat the Sette 270 as a conical espresso grinder at its price. Hope that helps! - Charles
i find your videos very informative and you're in general have so much knowledge i believe. can you please do a comparison between eureka mignon specialita (or perfetto) and niche zero? i'm really puzzled
Maybe I’m just easily satisfied, but I find my Baratza Encore does exceptionally well for the job and don’t see a need for higher end grinders except for as you say, build quality, grind speed, and volume. The encore has been plenty consistent. And the coffee that comes out of my espresso maker is up to par even with snooty fancy pants coffee houses I’ve been to
Guessing your using a pressured portafilter because there is no way you can find tune a shot with the encore. I guess there is a chance you got really luck with the couple grind options working out.
@@rjejames28 Nope. It was the Flair Pro, so the pucks are taller than a traditional 58mm basket puck, thus requiring less finer grinds. The grinder worked great but over time seemed to become less consistent. Fine tasting coffee but tons of spurts after a few months, so I opted for a Kinu Grinder maybe 6 months later and kept the Encore for pourovers. Even still with the Flair Pro and Encore, I've made better coffees than most coffee shops
@@classicrockonly I can believe that, most of the coffee ☕ shops leave a lot to be desired. That's great, I have a 1zpresso jx pro also, and that's a really neat grinder that's pretty versatile.
@@rjejames28 Same! I loved my Kinu but the Phoenix sucks. The catcher is cheap plastic and the grip wasn't much of a grip. Now I've switched to the Flair 58 and Eureka Mignon Notte grinder (with single dose hopper + bellow) and I'll take my Kinu or JX Pro on the road with my Flair Pro
Very informative as usual with your videos, i have learnt a lot from watching them. Could you please compare the Fiorenzato F64e evo with the ECM 64, I'm very interested in both, thanks once again for all the info
I've watched your excellent videos on grind retention, single dosing, and this one. I'm curious how Adam's choice of the Baratza Vario in the under $500 category would perform for espresso compared to the Sette 270? I single-dose, but don't have a good grinder. I would suppose that the Vario's larger flat ceramic burr would be superior to the Sette 270's smaller conical steel burr. My coffee drinking is overwhelmingly espresso, but I do sometimes grind for French press for work, and less frequently experiment with pour-over. I don't want to compromise on the espresso grind. Could I go with the Vario with no espresso compromises? Thanks so much for your very informative and high quality produced videos (and website too).
A week is about the maximum length of time I'd recommend leaving coffee in the hopper since they are not air tight. If the coffee comes in a bag with a seal, that would be a better option compared to storing beans in the hopper long term.
An other important element of choice for me, is the ease of cleaning.
That's why I consider the Fiorenzato AllGround a better option than the Eureka Libra for example.
Hi Charles we are 2 people home drinking primarily 2 milky drinks each per day. Lattes, cappuccinos, etc. I am actually using a Baratza sette 270WI wich very convenient because of its automatic weight system. I do have the opportunity of buying a new Ceado E37S. My question is: "will I notice any real difference in cup changing from my Baratza to the Ceado?" Better built quality, noise, speed and longevity are not issues for me, but cup taste is .Thanks for your opinion.
Hi there!
Those two grinders are very different in terms of burr size and shape. Typically a flat burr grinder (like the Ceado) will taste more like a well rounded, traditional shot. The conical style (your current Sette) adds a little more personality and dimension with the slight variance in particle size. If you were leaning towards the flat burr style, we prefer the Eureka line of grinders compared to Ceado based on consistency and reliability.
I'd love to see a review of the Niche Zero Grinder!
That's what I just bought
Hi Charles!!! I love how you explain your videos...I have to buy a coffee grinder but I'm between the Eureka Specialita and the Rocket Espresso. I don't know what to do. They both have positive and negative things. Both can be programmed in one or two cups depending on the time (seconds).
The rocket is cleaner when it comes to grinding coffee, as the Eureka always leaves coffee residue on the table. Also, the burrs of the Rocket are 5 mm smaller (compared to the 55 mm of the Eureka) and it has a 50 watt's motor that is less powerful than the Eureka.
I've read reviews from Rocket where customers say the screen is problematic (very sensitive and sometimes gives problems) and needs to be fixed quite often. On the other hand, I've also read that the Eureka has a timer that is quite difficult to set, but I don't understand why this is said when the grinding set is the same wheel system.
So, which grinder would you think is the best and why? Can you honestly tell me what you think about both of them? I'm sure, that clarity will help me take the decision!
Ceado E37S is my up plan.. Mignon is hero between this comparison. From Coffee Addict. 👍for this channel.
how do you compare mignon to niche zero?
@@MMAisFedor I can't tell because non of them under my hand !!
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@@MMAisFedor 🙂
I was considering the Eureka mignon manuale, 50mm burrs. Comes almost half the price of the Specialita.
Good advice! Thumbs up to your channel. Cheers from Puerto Rico.
Wow such a well made video. Thank you!!
Hi I would like to single dose with a Ceado E37S but they say a niche zero is also a good grinder, would you like to compare them?
Great grinders, great presentation. I have a question: people always say 'invest in a good grinder', however, what is the minimum standar of a good grinder for home espresso lover? The reason I ask this question is that the standard and price of 'a good grinder' can be no ceiling or the ceiling is too high for many people. If you could point to one or two specific grinders that meet the minimum standard, that would be great. I would guess that one of which is Baratza Sette? Thanks.
Any grinder on our site is something we'd recommend. We can work with most budgets! The Baratza Sette is a GREAT grinder especially for the price.
Comparing the conical burrs of the sette 270 and the flat 55mm burrs of the Eureka Mignon Specialita, which would hold up better in the cup for milk drinks? would the general distinction in the flavor profile of the conical vs flat hold here?
Great question. As I mentioned in the video the differences can be pretty subtle. Our first recommendation for those trying to discern between conical and flat is to go to coffee shops that use one or the other (or better yet one with both). A subtle difference in taste is hard to describe so nothing beats personal experience here.
With both of these burrs being on the smaller side the gap is that much narrower. If you're not already a loyal fan of one burr type or the other, I'd suggest focusing in more on the other differences in build quality, speed, noise, etc. If you find that you're a big fan of conical though, it's hard to beat the Sette 270 as a conical espresso grinder at its price.
Hope that helps!
- Charles
@@clivecoffee thanks for the reply!
i find your videos very informative and you're in general have so much knowledge i believe. can you please do a comparison between eureka mignon specialita (or perfetto) and niche zero? i'm really puzzled
Incredible video. To the point, very clear, covers everything and more importantly why. Thank you!
I really like this video and your channel. Thank you.
Maybe I’m just easily satisfied, but I find my Baratza Encore does exceptionally well for the job and don’t see a need for higher end grinders except for as you say, build quality, grind speed, and volume. The encore has been plenty consistent. And the coffee that comes out of my espresso maker is up to par even with snooty fancy pants coffee houses I’ve been to
Guessing your using a pressured portafilter because there is no way you can find tune a shot with the encore. I guess there is a chance you got really luck with the couple grind options working out.
@@rjejames28 Nope. It was the Flair Pro, so the pucks are taller than a traditional 58mm basket puck, thus requiring less finer grinds. The grinder worked great but over time seemed to become less consistent. Fine tasting coffee but tons of spurts after a few months, so I opted for a Kinu Grinder maybe 6 months later and kept the Encore for pourovers. Even still with the Flair Pro and Encore, I've made better coffees than most coffee shops
@@classicrockonly I can believe that, most of the coffee ☕ shops leave a lot to be desired. That's great, I have a 1zpresso jx pro also, and that's a really neat grinder that's pretty versatile.
@@rjejames28 Same! I loved my Kinu but the Phoenix sucks. The catcher is cheap plastic and the grip wasn't much of a grip. Now I've switched to the Flair 58 and Eureka Mignon Notte grinder (with single dose hopper + bellow) and I'll take my Kinu or JX Pro on the road with my Flair Pro
That ECM looks tight 😍
Very informative as usual with your videos, i have learnt a lot from watching them. Could you please compare the Fiorenzato F64e evo with the ECM 64, I'm very interested in both, thanks once again for all the info
I've watched your excellent videos on grind retention, single dosing, and this one. I'm curious how Adam's choice of the Baratza Vario in the under $500 category would perform for espresso compared to the Sette 270? I single-dose, but don't have a good grinder. I would suppose that the Vario's larger flat ceramic burr would be superior to the Sette 270's smaller conical steel burr. My coffee drinking is overwhelmingly espresso, but I do sometimes grind for French press for work, and less frequently experiment with pour-over. I don't want to compromise on the espresso grind. Could I go with the Vario with no espresso compromises? Thanks so much for your very informative and high quality produced videos (and website too).
I went with the niche zero arrives in a few days
Great info, thanks.
If you just want something for your home, how bad is it to leave the coffee in the hopper all week?
A week is about the maximum length of time I'd recommend leaving coffee in the hopper since they are not air tight. If the coffee comes in a bag with a seal, that would be a better option compared to storing beans in the hopper long term.
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