Dialing in Your Grinder for Espresso: i.e. Eureka Mignon Specialita
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- Ever wondered how to dial in your grinder to get great, cafe quality espresso drinks? In this video, I use a Eureka Mignon Specialita to exemplify how to find the reference point (0 point), and how to adjust coarser from there to attain the desired espresso extraction, which is normally a 1:2 brew ratio. This can be especially helpful when dialing in the grinder for the first time, or coming back to espresso from pour over or french press. Additionally, I show how I use a timed scale to determine how much espresso yield I am getting, in how much time, which is the salient portion of any espresso recipe.
This process by the way can be followed for all flat burr grinders, not just the Specialita. The entire Mignon line, including the Facile, Perfetto, Silenzio, Manuale & Classico can all be referenced this way.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:07 Finding the Grinder Reference
3:25 Grinding at +2 (too coarse)
5:25 Second try at +1 (getting closer)
7:41 Third try grinding at +0.5 (just about right)
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Hello coffee friends! In this video, I show how I dial in the Eureka Specialita for the first time, for espresso. This grinder is great for wonderfully fluffy grinds, no static, and a quiet operation. Thanks for watching, and happy coffee drinking! ✪ Eureka Specialita Grinder: geni.us/EurekaSpecialita (Amazon)
0:00 Intro
1:07 Finding the Grinder Reference
3:25 Grinding at +2 (too coarse)
5:25 Second try at +1 (getting closer)
7:41 Third try grinding at +0.5 (just about right)
Beans which you consider fresh because you just bought it or opened it are usually a year or more old from the time it was harvested and arrived to your house.
@@MightyCrazy Beans that have been freshly roasted. Like 2-4 weeks from roast date.
Hi, i bought a manual type, same brand. Beginning can grind espresso (fine, and coarse. Now dial even reaching almost 0, the grinding is very coarse, like French press. How?
After 4 hours of bad attempts, I watched this 10 minute video and had my grind size dialed in 15 minutes later. Thank you SO much for this
You bet! Glad it helped, UTR. 🙋🏼♂️
SAME! Who would have thought the numbers in. The speciality dial are not what they say 😂
Thank you for your help. I have the same grinder and I will get some coffee tomorrow… can’t wait to try this out! Greetings from Spain ❤
Thank you Tom. My Specialita should come within the week, this video was very helpful.
I just bought this exact grinder (hasn't shipped yet) and this is EXACTLY the type of video I was looking for and needed. Simple, to the point, and immensely helpful! Thank you sir!
Great to hear! Hope you enjoy your grinder!
me too !
This video is excellent! Dailing in is the hardest thing to figure out with this grinder.
Just received my Specialita! And my reference point is 5 too. Thank you for the video!
Excellent! Have fun with this nice machine!
Thank you, this is very informative. Tomorrow I will receive my Eureka Mignon Facile and I'm sure this video will help me get it set up.
Glad it was helpful! Are you using this grinder for pour over or espresso? The Mignon line by Eureka really offers a lot of bang for your buck!
Oh my! Just unpacked my specialita! Going to set it up using your tutorial! By the way, my burrs also start to touch at 5! Thanks for your video! It’s great!
Rock on, Che! I hope the video helps with your setup. Sounds like your grinder is calibrated the same as mine. Happy coffee drinking! -Tom
Thank you so much you are such a godsend. I thought there was something wrong with my grinder and something wrong with my new.LILET Bianca, espresso machine. I finally got it after two whole bags of beans!! I pull in 31 seconds 38 g.❤❤❤
Thanks for the advice and education you provide. Your hard work is appreciated very much!
I appreciate that!
Thank you, very useful video. You literally helped me set up my 0 setting on my new Chrono - which also starts at 5 :D
Great to hear! Let me know how you like the Crono. Cheers!
Great vid! I love your vids Tom. It's real world stuff for the sort of things that are cool to know for 90% of us. None of the arty-farty stuff you get from the GS3/lever pull pseuds with $10k to spend on a machine! Subscribed.
(And I'm amazed at the results you are getting from that Delonghi)
Hey Mr. Biggles, thank you so much for such a lovely feedback! I am happy the videos I make can be useful.
I am an engineer, and we are known for being a little stingy with our wallets. Thus, I like to get the most out of economical equipment.
Thanks for your subscription! Tom
Great video, very helpful.
Thank you great video! Gonna receive my Mignon Turbo tomorrow and definitely would try to follow your instruction.
Sweet! I have never heard of the Turbo model. Is that like the Specialita?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Yes, its in the Mignon family, announced around end of 2021 so its pretty new!
It comes with a 65mm burr
@@Nataly034 Oh dang, that's sweet! That should be a good amount quicker than the Specialita. 👍
Just in time Tom, just unboxed my Speciality and needed a little help dialing it in
Hey Yves, that IS good timing. 🤗 Hope you enjoy this fine grinder. 👍🏻
Tom - I just got my Eureka Magnifico and with the instructions you gave have now zeroed my machine. It took me about three draws to get the specific coffee grind too. By the way, I take it that you have to perform this type of operation each time you change bean type? I also appreciate all the "science" or weighing you're doing which is fantastic. I think this is one of my favorite most informative video's I have found. Great job and I am now following your channel.
Thank you very much for your kind feedback! No, you only need to find the reference once. That should not change, unless you change the burrs. 👍🏻
very, very helpful ! thank you !
i bought today bouth machines. The Dedica 685 and Eureka Specialita. Thank you for the video.
Sweet pickup, Bulldozer! I bet you are going to like that combo, and the Specialita can serve many machines well. I use it on the Gaggia, Bambino, and La Spazz too.
Just make sure you use non pressurized baskets with the Dedica. Cheers! ☕️
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thank you very much. Yes i bouhgt another grip with 2 size new baskets. I think i use the original dedica baskets with one hole for normal coffee, 100ml 7gramm and the others for espresso.
So helpful. Thankyou.
Great video . Thank you 👌👍
Very helpful
Hello Tom, thank you very much for sharing your great video, I have just bought a manual one I would like to grind Turkish coffee which number I should use ?thank you very much in advance
Thank you. Your videos are great. Are you actually using this grinder as a single grinder? Doesn't this impair the uniformity of the grinding?
Thanks man, seems like the Specialitas all have a different reference point. Mine is around 4.
I have a Dedica too, but today I got my Cafelat Robot - honestly it is easier to pull consistent shots with the robot. I really like it! But the Dedica was a good learning machine for me.
hey Tamas, thanks for your comment! Wow, I cannot believe I have never heard of the Cafelat Robot espresso maker before. It looks similar to a lever machine. Is it fun to use? Is that from Italy by chance?
hey, Tamas. I have the same setup as you, meaning the Specialita and the Robot. How many notches do you go back from you reference point of 4 (mine is closer to 5, like Tom's)?
hey man, I'm at 5 currently and I get a pretty good shot. But I'm still learning and dialing in the grinder for the coffee. I'm ok between 0 and 5 usually, but better to be close to 5. For you that would be around 0 I guess?
@@tamasd8 I'm at 0.5 and the pressure I have to put in I think is too high, with around 50 seconds a shot. I also tamped lightly. I have to try the same grinder setting without tamping, and see if the pressure is the same. If too high, I'll have to go up to 1, and try again. Today I used the 0,5 setting for the first time, after watching this video.
if you ar at around 50 seconds with 6 bars, then surely grind coarser, experiment! I don't think the light tamp will be enough, but try it for sure
Great vdeo, thank you. 👌👍
Thank you very much for all the valuable info you’re giving out in your videos. I am just wondering if there is anything I can do to increase extraction time. I’m still working with the pressurized filter but no matter how hard I tamper, I get 30g out in less than 20 s. Could it be the grinder ? I’m using the Dedica grinder KG521J-M
Hey there! Well I think that grinder should be able to grind fine enough for either pressurized or non-pressurized filters. But I haven't tried yet myself. How freshly roasted are the beans you're using?
Hey, to increase extraction time you'd want to grind at a finer setting or increase the dose size. Tamping pressure doesn't actually increase extraction time much after applying about 30lbs of pressure, so that's why you're finding that no matter how hard you press the time is the same.
I don't know that grinder, but if it's already as fine as you can go then you would need to increase the dose.
What brand for the funnel? It seems to work really well with the grinder.
thanks for the great videos.
I use right now Delonghi Dedica grinder, at the finest settings of the grinder my extraction time is at around 15 seconds for 1:2 ratio.
Would you recommend me to upgrade to Eureka Migron or shall I look for a more premium grinder?
The Mignon line is all you will need - it's so much better than the Dedica grinder. I have had the Specialita for 3 years, and nothing has budged it from it's position as my daily driver.
What coffee grinder would you recommend specifically for getting the most flavor out of espresso with a 700-1000 dollar budget?
Hey nice video! And very nice that you use the Dedica with a Eureka Grinder. And not automatically using a high price espresso machine. As I have the same setup I will use this input to dial in my coffee again after some frustrating shots. May I ask which temperature setting did you use?! Are planning on changing the espresso machine? And what would be your choice? Keep on !
Hey Moritz, rock on! Yes, I just love the Mignon series by Eureka. They work well with cheap and expensive espresso machines. Most people's philosophy anyways, is to spend more on the grinder than on the machine. I do also have a Gaggia Classic Pro that I am starting to experiment with, and it is very fun. I have had other machines as well in the past, but honestly I have the most fun trying to get what I can out of the Dedica and Classic pro.
I use the highest temp setting by the way (on the Dedica), and I pull a couple of empty shots first to warm the lines, portafilter, and basket.
Cheers! Tom
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Great Tipps! I try to get them into my work flow. Just decided in buying a QuickMill Pippa and I will see how that machine performs. But that will be around April. Now it is time to get the most out of the Dedica. Rock n Roll
Thanks Tom
Great vid
Great handle!
🎶 “I love it when they call me big poppa” 😉
Hi Tom. Do you think this grinder is a good option if I want to change coffee beans often, mixing fresh roasted with supermarket beans? Or maybe an easier to use grinder is better, maybe something with steps?
Also do you recommend supermarket beans to be used with pressurized basket?
Yes, supermarket beans are often old, so they generally require the use of the pressurized baskets. I'd recommend the Sette 30 or 270 for switching beans often. It's what I use in that case. It has a straight through design for low retention, and the grind collar is marked with steps, so it's easy to switch between.
Hi Tom. Been watching your videos for the pass few days now. I recently purchased the Delonghi La Specialista Arte & the eureka. I wanted to how many grams of beans and what setting number do I set the Grinder to
16 grams, and you have to dial fine enough to get 32 grams out in about 25 seconds. Cheers!
What brand is the scale? I like the timer and scale combo!
I believe, from a reference point (5) you add +3 dials (to be on 2) then reduce to +2 and to +1,5 from a reference point.
Thank you for the instruction. is there an auto power-off function in this machine?
Nope!
Hey Tom. Great video. I see Gaggia has a new grinder MDF 55 that looks just like this one and built by same company. Interesting.
Yes, looks to be just the same, besides the casing. I guess Eureka is licensing their design out...
just got mine today and touching point is "Zero". LOL. just perfect
Hi, thank you for the video. My question is if you should be weighing the ground beans at 14g? I think because of the retention of the specialita, and the grounds I still see in your machine, you may only have 13-13.5 grams of grinds. Or will that even make a difference? I guess as long as you enjoy the final product, that’s all that matters.
I usually weigh the dose that ends up in the PF. I aim for 16g most of the time.
Hi, great video, quick question, when you finding the zero on the grinder, does it cause damage to the burrs, for instance say you loose the zero point a few times and you have to find it again, will this cause any issues long term.
No, not in my opinion or experience. It's not the teeth mashing together, but rather the flat part of the burrs momentarily touching.
Hi Tom, thanks for this video! Tomorrow I wil pull my first shots with the Eureka mignon manuale and a Gaggia Classic Pro. I didn't know how to start with the grinder, so this video will help me a lot. Does it not harm your grinder when you hear those two grind blades hit each other?
Hi Randy, thanks for watching! It won’t hurt your burrs if they touch momentarily. If you look at their surfaces, where they meet is flattened off anyway. Have fun! Tom
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thanks Tom! It was a frustrating espresso morning 😅 The puck was very wet everytime. And with the same grind setting, I was getting different output times. Tomorrow I will pull some shots, and see what it will bring.
@@randykalkwarf Hey Randy, I often get wet pucks with the GCP. It's not really an indicator of coffee quality, just a mess.
Hi Tom, thanks for the video. About to start using my silenzio illy grinder. to grind 14g of beans, which filter are you using? a single or double dose? For reference, I have two filters from neouza. They are both straight, even the single dose one.
Hi! 14g is normally a small double dose. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner ok, thanks. I normally use 18g so I thought you're going with a single dose.
I just ordered my specialita and was wondering how do I set it up? Tom to the rescue!
Very cool! I think you will really like this grinder! Cheers, ☕️ Tom
Hey tom, should the timer start from the first drop, or when i hit the button?
Using the eureka single dose with BDB (manual button) !
I start the timer upon button press, since that is when the extraction starts. Cheers!
Hi Tom, hope you are keeping well. I am in the market for a new espresso grinder and would like your advice. I was looking at getting the eureka mignon manuale, but I see the turin sd40 also looks appealing in that price range. What are your thoughts on these grinders? The new grinder will be used purely for espresso. Is there any other better grinder at the same price point ? Thanks Jaaved
Hey Jaaved, well that depends on a couple things. The Turin is a brand that I don't know. Are they Chinese? I like the italian heritage of Eureka. Also, the SD40 has small conicals, while the Manuale has 50mm flat burrs. Which profile do you prefer? Which look do you prefer? If it were me, I would go for the Eureka, but I am biased since I like them so much. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Hey Tom, thanks for your thoughts. I'm not sure but I would assume the turin is Chinese. I'm still learning about espresso profiles but I think I prefer body and texture with sweetness. I've only heard good things about the eureka so looks like I'll be settling for that. Thanks again. Jaaved
@@jaavedjaffar9279 You Betcha!
Hello! Isn't it bad for the burrs to be touching everytime you wanna redial?
If you leave them touching, then sure. But this is only done for an instant, to find your reference. The teeth are not actually touching anyway, but rather the flat part of the burrs.
what is the maximum degree turns it can do? 360 degree? 720 degree or more? When receiving a new grinder, how do you prevent it from damaging if the knob is set to a position such that it is not causing the burr assembly touching each other? For example, if you set it at 5, but this could be -5 if the rotation is more than 360 degree. Since i haven't own one *which i intended to), how to ensure that the grinder is properly setup during unboxing?
Well it helps to know the reference point. Find that without beans, then remember where the end stop is. It won't hurt the burrs to just touch shortly. The teeth don't touch, just the flat parts.
Hello, I've found with the bottomless portafiter that I need a grinder and have dialed in on this one. My only question is should I consider the zero? Which do you recommend, the Specialita or the zero? I can't see where the zero has the forks for the portafiter which I might or might not like so I need your input. Thanks!
Well the zero has a few extra nice features but costs more. I think you will be happy with both. But if you have the means, go for the Zero, to get a better reduction in retention.
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Every espresso machine benefits from a good grinder! Vielen Dank fürs zuschauen!
Does it make sense to buy Eureka single dose hopper if I plan to treat Eureka Mignon Specialita as a single dose grinder? Or just use a standard hopper and treat it as a single dose one as you do, Tom? Maybe some of the viewers have both hoppers and can share their opinion and experience on that?
Oh for sure get a single dose hopper, because it comes with a bellows, for blowing out the remaining grounds. I find that there is always still 1-2 grams left in the grind chamber and chute, which get blown out by my bellows.
Hi Tom. I need your professional advice. Better to buy the set shown in this video or DELONGHI La Specialista Arte?
Well Pavel, the Eureka Mignon is superior to the integrated Arte grinder, so I would recommend the Dedica/Mignon combo. Or, you could get a Manuale to save even more. Mignon Manuale: amzn.to/3G0aMSt
Thanks for the video! Do you have a link to the scale you are using?
Sure, it's this one: geni.us/TimemoreBlackMirror (affiliate link)
Amazing. Can having the grinder run while no beans are inside damage the burrs? Also, is it safe to find the point where they are touching or can they be damaged ?
You can go coarser with the grinder off, but should leave it on when going finer. This is because if a bean is trapped between the burrs and you get them closer together, there is a chance of misaligning them.
Touching burrs is not ideal, but if it's just for a split second, there is no problem.
You can run the grinder under no load, yes. You are just touching the burrs together for a split second. It's the flat metal parts that are touching anyway - the teeth don't intertwine.
You can just manually spin the spindle (before the hopper is on) with the machine switched off to find your reference point. Mines also 5
Hi Tom!
Thanks for the video!
My Eureka MS keeps delivering rough ground ( brewing time less than 15 seconds). I did the
Dialling (I found the zero then tried different grinding degrees) . Even with less than 1 degree , I still have no change in results. The bean used with another grinding machine with no such issue. Thanks
Hi there! I have not heard of such an issue. I wonder if the adjustment knob is seated correctly. Can you call Eureka's support?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I’m not really sure about that!
I sent an email for Eureka yesterday and hope getting answer soon
When you say two full notches is that two complete turns of the dial or just two notches away?
Just two notches. 👍🏻
Two full turns would make too large of a difference, like going from espresso to pour over.
Hi Tom. Please, what settings do you use for store-bought coffee (not fresh)? For some species I have to use a setting almost at the level of the reference point.
Right, older beans need to be ground even finer, but they still pretty much make terrible extractions. All I can say is to adjust so that you get a 2:1 ratio in about 25 seconds. But, try to get fresher beans if you can. Some beans print roast date indications on the bag. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thank you very much for your reply. Yes, you are right. I thought I was doing something wrong. I had the finest setting on the grinder, but I still couldn't get over 25 seconds extraction. Thank you for sharing your experience. Cheers!
How easy is it to change grind settings when going from espresso grind (fine) to let's say filter (coarse)? Can this all be done by just dialling the knob?
It is possible, but it will take some time for the setting to take effect. I'd recommend single dosing if you are switching often. Then you can adjust the grind while the burrs are devoid of beans, saving beans in the long run. Cheers!
We followed these instructions however when we fill the holder with beans (as opposed to just putting in the 14grams) the coffee is ground much more quickly, resulting in an overflowing holder. Any tips?
Haha, well sure you have to stop the grinder earlier when the hopper is full. I would suggest weighing your PF empty, and then trying for the 14-16 grams. Do you have a scale?
quick question: at that point 5 where the burrs start to chatter, is that also the furthest the knob will turn or is that one full 360 rotation away from how far the knob will go?
i have a silenzio, and the furthest towards minimum my knob will go is the 5 before the 0. then i have to turn the wheel a full 360 degrees to get to the point where they dont chatter anymore. is this normal or is mine calibrated oddly?
Also i made the mistake of running my grinder while it was chattering for about 5 seconds once an then another 5 seconds wondering why there was no coffee. does this damage the burrs?
The burrs are flat on the top where they meet, so they shouldn't get entangled. Too much strain on the motor however can cause overheating. I just do it for a split second, to find the point where they meet, then back off immediately. I would not suggest turning further on the dial than that.
Do you need to dial in while the unit is running ? I just got the Specialita and I haven't read the user manual as of yet :) I had to ask !
Hey Tim, you should make adjustments to any grinder while it’s running, yes. It’s easier on the grinder, and it’s generally recommended. Cheers!
These videos are very helpful! However, using the same Grinder, if i grind below 1 , using a medium force when Tamping, the portafilter moves during extraction and if i'm not careful it will even go flying. I have seen other videos with people using dedica with very fine grind, so not sure why i can't? I'm using NEOUZA bottomless portafilter and usually 12g of coffee. Any tips welcome!
Hello there! It’s hard to say what might be going wrong, without seeing a video. Does the same thing happen if you use the original portafilter?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Hi! Thats the issue i believe, the portafilter quality, even though I did buy the best rated in Amazon Spain i see that it does not seal like the original and moves. May I ask which one you use?
@@jolkil Hey there! I just got in a high quality portafilter from Normcore. I am thinking this is the best option for aftermarket, but it is not in every market. I imported mine from Amazon.com: amzn.to/3kn1Z0Q
Otherwise, you could also just cut the bottom off the portafilter the machine came with, as a cheaper alternative.
Hey nice video! I got the specialita 1 week ago and have a question regarding 0 point: initially the burr touching noise could be heard at grind setting -0.25. This was before the grinder has seen any beans. Now one week after I have ground a hopper full of beans, the 0 point seems to be at +1 to + 1.25 (this is where the burr noise is noticeable).
However, until setting +1.5 (here no noise of touching burrs is hearable anymore), the grinder produces a bit of a squeaking noise only shortly after turning off the motor at the last seconds before the motor stops. This sound is not here anymore when setting Grund size to above +1.5. Is all this normal?
Hmm, that is really hard to answer without seeing a video. Maybe you could upload one?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I cleaned the grinder and now the zero point is back to the original -0.5. No squeaking noise anymore - now I can grind fine enough!:) Just hope that it won’t come back! Any idea what could have caused it?
@@clemensrausch23 Hard to say, but it seems the grinder was influenced by coffee residue. Maybe just keep an eye on it, and if you want check the alignment using the marker method. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner yeah just hope it won’t reoccur or that I had a faulty unit. However, why would it be fine for now then?! such things make me freak out haha
The sound of trapped beans between the burrs is similar to when they touch. If you go finer of when you hear it and then go back to that pint, it doesn't sound like that anymore.
is it not dangerous close so the burr while are working moreover it makes sound when you are close to zero ? and it is needed that the machine is working to adjust the dial ? I just bought that machine that is why I am asking.
You should adjust the dial while its spinning. No, it doesn't hurt to find the calibration point. The burrs are flat where they meet, and it is just a momentary thing. Cheers!
Is it bad for the burrs to touch like they did when you were looking for the reference point?
Hey Isfar, the burrs are flat on top, so if they just chatter a moment, they won't choke, and it won't overload the motor. It is just to get a quick reference. I try to do it just very gently, and briefly. It is really only needed to find the reference once, or else possibly after taking apart the grinder for cleaning. Thanks for watching!
Thanks Tom. Nice video. I am confused as to how two full notches from 5 gets you to 2? Shouldn't it be 1? i.e 5-0 is 1 notch and 0-1 is the 2nd notch. Can you please explain? Thanks!
No, you're right. Unfortunately, I misspoke in the video. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Ok thank you Tom🙏
Hello, I just got the Specialita. My dial knob is pretty tight to rotate. In the video, it seems pretty smooth to rotate the knob. Is it normal to have a tight adjustment knob?
Hey Kim, the knob does have some resistance, but it is smooth. Maybe yours needs a little time to wear in?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I see. Hopefully that is the case. Thanks!
Hi @Tom's Coffee Corner, when I use 14g of coffee beans, no matter how fine or corse I grind the beans, they don't fit into the 51mm delongi portafilter. I have the High Precision Non-Pressurised basket. Any suggestions ? I am going through a lot of coffee just trying to get it right.
I have the same machine and the same grinder.
Hi Paul, I am really not sure. I can easily fit 14 grams, sometimes even up to 16. Are you using the IMS basket?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Managed to find the problem, my scale had multiple measurement options. Wasn't set on "g"
Hi Tom, I would like to ask one thing, why do you use a 14g dose for a single espresso? It seems to me a lot. Shouldn't the dose be only 7/9 g? However, with about 10g of Lavazza coffee beans ground to the reference point, the coffee still runs too fast. Should I increase the dose? Thanks
Hi Giancarlo, I like using double baskets, so they take between 14-18 grams. That is my preferred dose. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Why dont you use the double Espresso button on the machine then? Is it the same as long as you use the double basket? Sorry for the dumb question 😅
how did you get 30g for 30 sec? my dedica produces the same volume for 10 seconds, quite fast compared to yours.
It might be your beans. Please see these videos:
How to Get Crema: ruclips.net/video/00NSG9459a8/видео.html
Why Supermarket Coffee Beans are RUINING your Espresso! ruclips.net/video/5BgMKqu8fJI/видео.html
Hi Tom, does that funnel fit most ports filters?
Just 51mm, but they make them in different sizes. It's from Edesia.
Hi, I'm a fan of espresso at home, using flair espresso classic. Now I want to buy an electric grinder. Which should I choose, between specialita and sette 270. What do you think?
Well, the Specialita is WAY quieter. The Sette is super loud. That is a deciding factor for me, so that I don't wake up the household. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Well, I'll buy the Specialita this week. Thanks 🙏🙏🙏
I bought the Eureka Mignon Notte for my wife's birthday. So far we've used it to grind 6-7 shots. However, every time after a grind; the machine sounds like the burrs are starting to touch again (without changing the setting). I've repeated the dial-in process 6 times now and every time I'm having to loosen up the burrs more and more. Any thoughts?
I haven't experienced something like that myself. I'd probably open it up and be sure the burrs are aligned alright. Lance Hedrick has got some videos on that topic.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thanks for the reply. I ended up just returning the Notte and picking up the Kingrinder K4 and have been extremely happy with that decision. We're pulling way better tasting shots with it. I think the Notte we received just happened to be defective and another one would have worked fine; but the K4 is working great and for only 1-2 shots per day I don't mind the arm workout.
I was alway wondering what will happen with grinder if you will go few notches more than reference point? can you damage the grinder this way?
Well if you let the burrs abut for too long, you will put a strain on the motor, and it may overheat. But touching for a moment will not hurt anything.
Hi! I just got my new Eureka Mignon Specialita and I am trying to find the touching point. I am following exactly what you are doing but I don’t hear burrs touching at all. Is but I hear the they are circling.
You'll hear them chirp if you go fine enough. Just be ready to back off quickly.
Very instructive video! I learned 2 things: how to find zero, and to use the portafilter+funnel directly on the scale to measure out beans (lowers risk of forgetting to tare).
A newbie question: where are your sweet spots for various types of beans in your experience? For example a lightish medium roast like Black Cat classic. I struggle with upfront malic sourness with most light-medium roasts. (Mignon Silenzio + Lelit Anna).
Hi Eric! Thanks for the feedback.
As for beans, I normally stay within the med-dark realm, but not too dark. I have tried some medium roasts, but those are tricky, and often display acidity. Have you tried different extraction temps? There is a lot of information on extracting light and med roasts with the Decent DE1 forum, if you are interested.
Cheers!
Nice video Tom, when you put in 14gr how much coffee is out from Specialita. Thank you
When I single dose, it seems to retain about 0.2 to 0.3 g. 👍🏻
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thank you for the reply Tom, in my test the retention is about 0.5gr~1gr at espresso setting. The espresso character is medium to light body compared to my Compak K3 grinder with the same recipe 16.5gr in 35gr out in 28sec~29sec. With Compak the espresso is more syrupy.
@@andreasidarto7822 So do you prefer the Compak, if it is more syrupy? I thought that conical grinders provided more mouthfeel, but the K3 seems to be also a flat burr grinder.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Yes, K3 has classic 58mm flat burrs with minimum coating(?). The design was like more than a decade old. With ~1400rpm the grinding is relatively slow. The grounds clump a lot. It is not for single dosing. It is heavy & looks monstrous(compared to specialita) & feels retro, but it delivers a sweet espresso. I was using the same Lelit PL92T, water quality, beans & recipe. I was expecting differently from my brand new Specialita. I really want this new grinder to be my daily driver. Tom, I don't have justification for the test outcome now. Maybe I missed something. I will try again. Enough coffee for today 🙏🏻
So when you find your reference point both burrs are touching then you back off of it ? Am I getting that right?
Yes, you back off right away. The touching is just instantaneous - long enough just to see where they meet.
When you find out your reference, does that mean that actually the 2 burrs colide? Are they getting damaged?
That flat part of the burrs abuts momentarily. No biggie. Cheers!
Can you remove and reset the little sticker on top or will it not stick back on? I would like to set the zero where my burrs start to chatter
I have not tried yet, because it seems really stuck on, and I am afraid if I pry it off, it might not be re-applicable. I just marked my zero point with a marker for now...
hey Tom great tutorial. I do have a question though when trying to find the reference/0 setting would that not damage the burrs if they're grinding on each other? I have my Specialita on the way (Black Friday deal lol) but I am anxious about having the burrs grinding on each other.
thanks in advance!
Hi there! No it doesn't hurt the burrs if they shortly meet, since their tops where they abut are flattened. You are just doing it for a split second anyway, and you need to know the zero point.
What kind of Black Friday deal did you get? Cheers, Tom
@@TomsCoffeeCorner That makes sense, thanks! I got 10% off and paid no taxes on it which is pretty sweet!
Hey, I got the same combo now and thanks to you I pull perfect shots - weight and timewise. The crema also looks good, but it is pretty dark and the taste is bitter :(
The beans are from a local roastery and 3 weeks old. My temperature setting is on the third option, I have not touched it yet. What other variables are there to check?
Hi Julian, looks like you are doing a lot right. Maybe adjust the dose volume, or lower the temp a bit, and see if that helps.
I have a Delonghi Dedica too, recently purchased a Bottomless Portafilter and when i dial in the espresso there's too much channeling and it splatters all over the machine and the espresso lacks crema. I use a Delonghi KG79 Burr grinder. I tried with a pre grinded coffee from the store, there was less channeling but still no crema on the espresso. any tips to solve this?
also what's your temperature setting for the water?
Hey Zeeshan, you can try this hack for the KG79 to grind fine enough. A fine grind and fresh beans are all you need to get a nice crema. You will need to pay attention to your puck prep regarding channeling. KG79 Hack: ruclips.net/video/3f3i_HlZI4c/видео.html
I also made this video specifically for the question of how to get crema: ruclips.net/video/00NSG9459a8/видео.html
Oops, and I use the highest temp setting, see 0:51 of this video: ruclips.net/video/M8NBbSyHDO0/видео.html
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thanks Tom! i'll check these out. :D
@@zeeshanshaikh2725 are you using fresh beans, i.e. not supermarket beans
@@raf3070 yes I’ve tried using fresh beans. Guess I’ll have to try the grinder hack. Tried an espresso grind one it had less channeling and little crema.
Please explain how you get setting 2 after a reference (0) point determined to be 5?
Hey Karl, thanks for that good question. The reference point for me is the 5 on the right side of the dial. This may depend on each units calibration.
Knowing which number to start at above the reference is kind of just trial and error, but I found that with the Specialita, the wormscrew is such that the optimal grind settings are between 1 and 3 notches coarser than the reference point. 😉
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thanks Tom. One other thing, if you would. When I was considering this grinder, I watched a demo of it on Seattle Coffee Gear and they were showing grind capabilities from very fine to coarse (pour over).
I'd like to use it for multiple uses, but the description mentioned having to "turn the dial multiple times" to get it adjusted for this. I'm hesitant to just start cranking on the dial and wondering how practical it is to do this anyway. Any idea?
@@karlkrasnowsky3895 Hmm, well I will be honest that I use this just for espresso, and sometimes AeroPress. That being said, I turn it one full turn (360 degrees) coarser for the AeroPress. When I come back for espresso, the reference IS still calibrated at the same setting, so I figure the accuracy is good. Anyway, it is a little pain in the butt with ANY grinder to go in between settings, since it takes a bit to get dialed in for espresso. That is why I would always recommend a second smaller grinder for pourover, like the KG89, which is cheap, and does a fine job. I made a video on that one too. But, to each his own. 😉Cheers!
Hey! I have a question! Does delonghi tamper fit nice in a bottomless portafilter? I have a tamper with a diameter of 51 mm, but it gets too tight in my basket. / Adam, Sweden
Hey Adam, thanks for your question. Some after market tampers are made slightly larger than 51 mm, but the DeLonghi should be as advertised 51 mm. Do you have a calipers to measure the size of your basket exactly?
Thanks for watching, and greetings to Sweden!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thanks for the reply! I measured the basket with a caliper and it was 51.2 mm. The tamper was pretty much 51mm. Is your baskets bigger? I ordered a basket that you linked in the description. It would be 52mm according to the specification. /Adam
@@adamsundberg9355 Hey Adam, I just measured my basket. At the rim, it's 51.0 mm. Inside it is 50.9mm. My tamper is 51.1mm. It seems that there is enough stretch on the basket to accommodate the tamper. Like I said, I like a tight fit, to avoid coffee on the side walls of the basket. Cheers!
HELLO. I got it but the screen froze for a while and fix after 2 minutes. Try 15-20 times at different times, it freezes once. store changed it 4 times with new specialita but same problem. I'm tired of changing. I think there is something wrong with the whole series. did you encounter the same problem? Do you know the solution?is it normal?
No, I have never heard of this.
Hi Tom, great video! Nice to see someone , who has a grinder which is more expensive then the espresso machine,,,because the grinder is so important (after fresh coffee beans ;-) ) . One question : why do you need the reference point? I use the mignon specialita without even knowing this point...and she work like a charme :-) Kind regards Michael
I just want to know where the reference is, so that I know where to start dialing in a new bean, in regards to the reference point. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thanks a lot 😊
Can I ask if 14g of coffee is for a single shot or double shot of espresso?
Hey there, a double shot is generally between 14-18 grams, while a single is 7g.
Hello! What is the measuring glass you are pulling your shot into?
Hi there! It's this one: amzn.to/3IfrsXt
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thank you much!
Would this be roughly similar for the Perfetto? Which I wish I hadn’t bought as it’s wayyyyy to sensitive? 😂
Hey Kosta! Yes, it is the same. The Perfetto is essentially the Specialita, but with 50mm burrs. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thank you!
Kind of worried, just got mine and I don’t hear the reference and I’ve rotated the dial a couple of rotations - updated, mine came rotated a few times so just took me cranking it down and ref point is also 5. Thx!
Sounds good Matt, thanks for sharing!
Does the amount of crema depend on the coffee grinder?
Somewhat - you need a decent grinder. The Specialita is very good. But mainly you need good freshly roasted coffee beans.
Thanks. I got Mignon Zero and followed your instructions. Out of the box, my zero point was luckily at 0. I have yet to try VST 20g basket, which I'm going to do that after vacation. Should I set grinder setting to 1 or 0.5 for VST. What's your experience.
Hi there! That depends more on your beans really. I would try around 2 for very freshly roasted beans, or around 1 for supermarket beans.
Is there any changes you made in your delonghi dedica?
Hey David, thanks for your message. I do run my Dedica with a bottomless portafilter and standard single walled basket, and I retrofitted the Rancilio Steamwand on the Dedica. Check out these videos if you are curious:
Standard basket: ruclips.net/video/klqspR4Sou8/видео.html
Rancilio: ruclips.net/video/aQqeI2kJZJ4/видео.html
I think he made it 9 bars, there's no way it's 15 bars and pulling this shot with this water pressure!
Strange that the reference point isn't at 0. Can you take the dial off and set the 0 as a reference point?
I have not removed the dial. Anyone else know?
Is there any similar way to dial in for v60 filter?
Well, dialing in is very important for espresso, in order to get the desired 9 bar of pressure. But grinding for V60 will be coarser and then it just comes down to taste. I would recommend grinding such, that the coffee bed "blooms" nicely. Cheers!
Why theres a bunch of water stuck in the filter area of my coffee portafilter after the shot?
Delonghi ECP35.31 / NEOUZA bottomless portafilter / Eureka Mignon 0,45 grind setting / the shot came out very fast 5g in - 20g out in 10sec
is there a way to avoid it without grind coarser ? thanks tom
Hello there! Yes, your beans are probably too old - or in other words roasted too long ago.
These videos may help:
How to extract the perfect espresso: ruclips.net/video/piO6c695Op8/видео.html
How to Get Crema: ruclips.net/video/00NSG9459a8/видео.html
Why Supermarket Coffee Beans are RUINING your Espresso! ruclips.net/video/5BgMKqu8fJI/видео.html
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thanks ill check them out
@@TomsCoffeeCorner i just checked the beans : prod date is 26/6/23 / brand: Corsini in Grani Espresso / exp date 2025
beans shouldnt be too old looking at the date, but i bought these on amazon.
is the basket the problem? the basket that came with the Neouza portafilter has 15g capacity
i just put 5g in, i couldnt even press it with a 51mm tamper cause its to narrow at the bottom
ill try to pull a 14g shot and see if i have the same 'water stuck in the basket' issue and let you know
(do you think that id have the same problem with the ims basket h24 if i try to press 5g / 7g ? thanks)
@@TomsCoffeeCorner first shot after last comment: 14g in / 20g out / 25 sec (first drip after 8sec)
the shot was creamy, dense but bitter. the beans are a dark roast (mixed with some random medium roasted one / 100% Arabica) and are being grinded with 0,5 Mignon Manuale grind setting. (probably too fine for a overall dark roast and / or the brew group/water was to hot for it considering i wait 20min minimum before pulling a shot(?))
'water stuck in the basket' issue was present but if i let, all that water, drip after the shot and remove the portafilter after some minutes, the puck came out perfectly. i wonder if it can be completely solved or theres the need to buy a more expensive machine (or experimenting with puck screen?).
a pulled a second one, 14g in / 30g out / 38 sec (first drip after 11sec).
still too bitter for my taste, and just a bit too diluted, considering also the time that id prefer to bring down to 20/30sec. tomorrow im gonna try new shots.
afterall its a 100% arabica, why its so bitter? cant this be solved cause its a (kinda) very dark roast? thanks
@@TomsCoffeeCorner just tried the 10g basket/singlebasket , 7g in/ 16g out/ 13sec , ill try to bring it down to '14g out' but i dont understand whats the deal with time, usually for espresso should be 20/30 seconds (adviced at least in 80% of youtube videos) but im not using a doublebasket anymore, i divided it by two so that in 10/15sec, a single shot, should be ready (lets not forget also the seconds before first drop {7/11sec}, which is twice faster in the single basket) . by the way bitterness wasnt present like in previous 15g basket/doublebasket shots which is strange (same grind setting- same coffee- same ratio- gram/sec almost the same, a bit faster in the single basket). thanks
Since that I have the same setup (Eureka + Dedica) I would really like to know exactly what funnel you got there? :)
Hi Karl, it is exactly this one, from Edesia: amzn.to/3PgM0yu
Thanks for watching!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thank you Tom! It took me a while to find it as for some reason it doesn't exist on Swedish Amazon. Anyway, as this particular model seems to have a good fit on both the Eureka and Dedica I will buy from Germany instead. :)
@@Karl-yy6br Hi Karl! I just looked, and there is also this Neouza one on amazon.se, which should fit well too. I have a bottomless PF from them, and the quality is pretty good.
amzn.to/3bFfzw5
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@@TomsCoffeeCorner Oh, this will be much quicker and easier for me. Perfect! Thanks!
Excellent! Do you guys drink much coffee up there? How about fishing? I come from a fishing village myself.
Are you using 5 as your reference point because they touch or 0 because it’s the one where they don’t touch anymore? Because in the video you’re saying +2 which brings you to 2. But if you start from 5 it would have been 1
Let me know! Thanks for the help, super clear video 🙏
No, you're right - I misspoke in the video! I should have said 1. Cheers!
So when -5 is your touch point you should start at 1? Thanks!