Notice how NOONE ever said something like that,they just assume everyone has the same horrible opinions like them,because they're narcissists with a superiority complex + bigotry
it wasn't that bad she's just saying that compared to the obviously superior white people who are all naturally attractive an... ... ok its very racist
I don’t think you guys get a huge part of it was that at that time admitting that you acknowledged ppl outside of the “western beauty standard” was a fast huge way to get clout and the more active you were the more you got. Riley would go on rants against white ppl all the time.
@@JoltYourLife As a man from the Balkans who has no frigging idea about the state-of-mind in the USA,i gotta ask: 1.This "beauty standard",why do people care so much about it?It's not like the magazines have any valuable opinion,and it's just the average,there are a lot of exceptions to it.Everyone loves pectorals-ergo every superhero is really buff,but noone's gonna act like Pornhub is real life. 2.Almost all media treats eastern europe as either USSR or a brick+mortar village that's part of an USSR expy.It's not like any Serbians or Macedonians were negativelly affected by that,yet having a majority white cast is detrimental to other minorities?How?USA is still a mostly white country,and i don't belive people's self worth should be based on vain cashcow media. 3.You mentioned it was trendy to go "against the system" and "acknowledge ppl who aren't conventionally atractive" but why is that?A woman astronaut would've been groundbreaking 4 decades ago,not so much today when everyone already knows men and women are equal,and there's not a war between the 2. Sorry if i frazed something the wrong way,mostly trying to understand the way ppl think and do things.Cheers
when the question about non-conventionally attractive characters came up i was thinking characters with weak facial structure or bad teeth but holy shit
How about half monster creatures? I think that would be “non-conventionally attractive”. I mean, if the character is half starved to death, gray skinned, with their head on backwards, and with either bulging or missing eyes and broken teeth, I would not be attracted to that.
I'm a lesbian, but if I see anything advertising "Our product is super inclusive! We have POC and LGBTQA+ stuff in it!" that's a turn off to me. Something as simple as diversity shouldn't be a marketing point in any project, and whenever I see something advertising that aspect as a selling point, it makes me suspicious.
As it should. Take the story og peliniel whitestrake in elderscrolls. Best historical figure and yet if you research it, it was the elves killing his male lover that sparked the war that caused the entire games empire to occur. He just happens to be gay. Gay is not his personality.
Same, I'm a lesbian that supports POC, but I don't think that just saying that their's people like that in a product is a good selling point. It's just a way to get more supporters on your project. I feel like this is the thing with the loud house. I'm not saying that the loud house is a bad show, I just don't like it, the jokes aren't that good, and the characters can be rather obnoxious at times. I think a reason why people like that show is only because it has a diverse cast. Then take for example Craig of the creek, well yes POC is technically a selling point the show has so many other things holding it, the characters are enjoyable, the world they live in feels like something you too would have loved to play in as a child, the dialogue is witty, and fart jokes are to a minimal.
@@FL0ra_favvn Well, I've never watched the Loud House, but I think the problem with it is more people defending it because of its diversity. I don't recall them ever marketing the show as being diverse.
I had another comment on here saying that Riley was basically right with the conventionally attractive statement but it has gone missing. Just want people to know that.
Yeah like, it should have been a massive red flag that for "unattractive" they immediately rattled off masculine Asian people, black people in general, trans women, disabled people, and overweight people as if that was their list of people who were usually unappealing or ugly, which is weird and just untrue.
They couldve listed off certain traits like. idk skinny bone arms, i absolutely hate my skinny arms. Or maybe curly hair bc ive had people tell me my hair looks "dirty" and should be straightened. but NO they listed off entire groups of people wtf
@@puppiekit curly hair would still be bad cause a lot of POC have curly hair. Frizzy hair might be a little better cause people of any background can have it
@@ocinidolegna idk i feel like having straight hair has been a beauty standard for much of the 2000s to 2010s. just because a specific race often has a particular trait doesn’t mean it’s racist to say it’s not the beauty standard. hell, i’m white and i have super curly frizzy hair lmao.
Tbf Yandere Dev at the very least has a playable demo of his game, which is much more than these people have to show. He doesn't strike me as a scammer so much as just a guy whose ego and ambitions grew wayyyyy beyond his actual abilities
@@puppppppies That's not saying too much. His demo is a joke. It has FAR more bugs in it than the previous builds and is only motivated to work on this 'game' if it can make over 1k in revenue to feel motivated in doing so. So basically only doing it for the money as much as he's used volunteers and others. He's trash just like the scammers.
@@orbitalpudding1946 Agreed. He pretty much did scam those since he never really delivered a proper game he promised. It took 6 YEARS to add in Osana fully and she's the 1st rival you deal with. I heard of it firstly in 2014 then in 2020 I was reminded of its existence and was shocked it wasn't in a deeper developed stage.
god Riley is like the prototype for every single abusive psuedo-woke Twitter and Instagram user in 2020 who feels they're immune to criticism because they're a marginalized identity
I've been on tumblr since 2011 (when I was 13 y/o) and I'm surprised I didn't knew about this until now. Specially hard to believe considering I was very into these subjects and I'm left speechless at how horrendous of a person Riley seems to be.
@@berrybugs7767 no i mean people in general being a victim don't mean you can't be guilty of the same bullshit. You should be better then the hateful deceitful human trash you despise you know.
when i was 15 and this was still going on i called out this game for seeming like a scam and got so much vitriolic hate calling me awful things. as a young person who was still just trying to explore and understand my own identity under the lgbt spectrum it was the first time i realized how legitimately awful tumblr users in that era could be when you question something popular.
But that's just the majority Tumblr culture in a nutshell isn't it? A supposedly anti authoritarian, questioning, rebellious, pro diversity crowd of folks who eat their own when they step out of line by questioning anything that's the current trend.
Tumblr literally popularized "burn blogs" at one point.. like literally the equivalent of a burn book but for tumblr users. The 2010's were such a disgusting time for tumblr. Remember tumblr prom? Fuck
@@Izzzyzzz I read that way too fast and almost pissed myself laughing at the thought of someone going onstage to present a game and mimicking the run cycle while trying to get off stage but staying in place
There's something so insidious to me about how often they went off on black men, as if they knew they could get away with racism by attaching it to the "bad gender"
@@ds4251 yeah it reminds me of when white men will make fun of white women and thinking they can get away w misogyny because they put the word "white" in front of it(despite also being white)
4:33 im listening to this while working on an animation and i literally recoiled from my drawing tablet in shock when the first answer to this question was "there will be black characters"
“This guy probably had 7 games planned” Me, who has an entire shelf of papers and notebooks of game ideas I’ve been saving since I was five: huh, weird isn’t it
There are so many women of colour that Riley harassed and fetished, I followed a lot of them back in the way and they have not forgotten. Early Tumblr was considered especially hellish for WOC because of Riley and their cronies.
Arkh also made it real easy for anti-sjs to say "look, see! this game represents social justice, and just trust me that everyone agrees about that. See how they don't actually care about minorities? if you see someone getting angry about representation just remember they're the same as the Arkh team!"
@@QuikVidGuy though there were many bad actors, to be fair a lot of early antiSJWs were pointing out how vulnerable to exploitation and misdirected hate SJW communities can become because of their methods and tendency to discard any criticism as inherently hateful
God no wonder there was so much rage in PoC Tumblr back then, I saw it a lot. There were several black artists I followed at the time and they all were so angry about this. Imagine being marginalized IRL, then coming onto a website that's supposed to be inclusive only to be marginalized there, too. I literally cannot imagine, since I'm not PoC, but my god. Those poor people.
The way that minorities are constantly manipulated and preyed upon is so upsetting.We ask for the BARE MINIMUM, we just want to exist within media and are treated as if we are insane for asking that. At this point it’s not a bar, it’s an underground pipe and people STILL find a way disappoint.
The reason that disappointment still exists is because of that manipulation and people who know they have to do the bare minimum and still get praise as if they invented fire for the first time. Here's a tip; a person who cares about diversity wouldn't talk about it as if they came up with the idea of having a diverse cast of ANYTHING. They wouldn't advertise themselves FIRST and 'how diverse' everything is and leave out what makes the characters UNIQUE as their own person rather than acting as if ONE singular character represent the whole of culture where people are still individuals while still holding to their culture. They also won't act as if said minorities owe them blow jobs for having one Black character or just race bending someone else. If someone acts like you owe them ANYTHING for shit tier work, RUN. Run far away because that person is a manipulative asshole and they view you as a prize, not a person.
people who hide behind having a minority label as an excuse for acting like a sack of shit are honestly one of the most frustrating brands of people to deal with.
Honestly, imo not using the word gay/straight/lesbian in fantasy isn't inherently problematic. I read a book series about a gay mage, and there simply wasn't a word for it, so his aunt combined different words to create a description 'one who loves one likes themself' (in a romantic non-incestuous way) is a bit much, so shay'a'chern had to make do. The thing is, as long as there is a word to describe it it makes sense, and imo this part added in the immersion and plot building/character development
I read a book like that except the main character was Trans. But it was written so well that it took a while to figure that out and the character never relied on their transness to be a character trait. It just was what he was. The world didn't have a word for trans either. The book is called The Raven Tower
Seconded! It'd probably knock the reader out of the experience if the characters randomly stopped their quest to say "now, readers, let's talk about how gay and valid the protagonist is." Coming up with creative, laid-back ways to integrate it into the worldbuilding is much better imo.
Again, like "Ms. Officer And Mr. Truffles," this sounded like a good and interesting idea but of course the developers were sketchy and the person behind the idea instead of doing something bad in the past ended up being a crappy person being racist and abusive..
@@qoyote I can kinda see someeee similarities. Mainly, Kickstarter falls through for an idea that the tumblr community was hyped for/made fan art for. :3
Dude. I was there. They were basically the first LJ social justice warrior grifter, BEFORE SJW and grifters were common terms. You're 1000% right and you have no idea how accurate your comment is.
I think people don't realise the reign of terror Riley instated on Tumblr in those days. It was actually so scary, like you lived in complete fear of being doxxed or bullied. The absolute adamantine power of influence they had was crazy and their legion of fans and supporters were massive. Riley went unquestioned and unchallenged for ages. I think the appeal was that they were not "pc" and initially started out as a somewhat anti-sj sjw if that makes any sense? They said things people were "too afraid to say" and that won them a lot of respect. They also took advantage of the rampant anti-blackness that was in many marginalised communities on Tumblr especially on Art Tumblr and positioned themselves as a liberator and authority. Riley had a lot of issues with internalised homophobia, anti-blackness, extreme xenophobia and (trans) misogyny/misogynoir and when called out they would (and I hate myself for saying this) literally pull out the race/queer card and call out their cronies to cyberbully and run people off the platform and act as a victim and constantly use mental health and trauma as a shield while ironically using other people's trauma against them. You literally had to pray that your post never caught their attention or you were done for. The era of ironic racism and toxic trolling in that era of the internet created the monster that Riley was because before them no one really had the guts to actually go against these trolls only to ironically become the people who they claimed to hate. Unfortunately after Riley's demise it created a vacuum for others to take their place and that's why Tumblr is the hellhole it is today. Riley was just an insecure, unfulfilled, glorified hotep who was bullied for being a nerd in high school and everyone should feel sorry for them. Wow the way they used to BEG for money too! My god this just unlocked so much 😂😂
WOW this is really interesting and well written, thanks so much for your input!! I knew they were a pretty big figure in the community for a while but I never knew they were THIS big. I've heard from multiple people that they believe Riley genuinely shaped tumblr and even internet culture in an extremely harmful way. To make that big of an impact through pure hatred and abuse... wow.
@@Izzzyzzz I don't use the term "reign of terror" lightly that's exactly what it was 😂😂 I'm actually surprised no one has made a video about them at all! But then again I understand some may not want to even touch it, I kid you not, due to PTSD. Riley is literally an infamous icon! Problematic Empress! To understand Riley and how they were born you have to understand the Tumblr Art community and Tumblr gaming community as it was in those days. You just couldn't be an openly queer/bipoc/atypical/GNC gamer or artist without being hunted by trolls for sport you just couldn't. Things aren't any better now but God it was horrific back then so you can understand how Riley was a breath of fresh air and a hero to many. I really don't want people to make fun of those who donated to that fail of a project because the desperation hunny 💕💕 we were beyond beyond excited for it haha! To do a Riley video would mean going down a dark dark rabbit hole. Kudos to you 😂😂
Given what I know about Riley, I think it should be discussed, it's connected to the lingering affects of Shakesville, Mardoll, anti Grimdark backlash, and why SFF writers have been fleeing to Horror and other Genres, because SFF has been getting way too toxic.
@@chrystals.4376 what happened with Shakesville? I remember I used to read them a lot waaaaaay back in the day, but I don't remember seeing a lot of crossover onto Tumblr, nor do I remember encountering any drama.
ngl ngl this is why i'm often put off by those e-begging posts going "if you don't donate to me on x day, you're anti-black and anti-indigenious" or whatever - bye.. it's the same vibe as riley's behavour
having multiple skin tones, body types, face shapes should be the standard for ALL video games. making a game thats focal point is "we include all these things!" is a red flag especially when they havent written what the story quests will be or even the main storyline.
My first thought on looking at the art was just, "The Sims Mediaeval already exists though." Seriously underrated game, and you can be any ethnicity or sexuality you want in it. Imo it still holds up today, you just have to grind through the boring tutorial quest before it gets good.
Preach. Just picked it up again yesterday. It's definitely incredibly funny, I totally forgot how most Sims you diagnose will just immediately leave your little medicine hut even if you tell them that they have the plague. Like: "Hey dude, you have the plague. Don't worry, I can help you and make sure that you won't infect anyone, please follow me to this-" "Bye!" EDIT: BTW it's still so goddamn surreal that the skin textures and the models look better than the ones in TS3. Like I know that the game released two years later than TS3 but like...idk maybe the models in your cool mainline game should be better than the one in your little medieval-AU side-game
As someone who VERY ALMOST came close to being like Riley, its probably hatered stemed from being in ghetto schools and poverty areas and just experiencing the recklessness of mostly black teens, although this can happen in almost any race. Also add in some internalized racism of blacks and a bit of hypocrisy and insecurity and you got Riley.
They, on LJ, had a history of claiming to be black, to be black-Japanese, to be of Indian descent (the India ones, not the Colombus can't geography First Nations), and to be part NA Native. They changed their race shirt depending on what would let them get away with called everyone crackers and every nasty word they could while collecting woke points and forming brainwashed SJW toxic mobs by appealing to morality and self-righteousness. (In short, fuck Riley.)
I'm white and this is just a pretty small sample of my own life so take it with a grain of salt, but many black people I know hate other black people, not saying white people are less racist at all, but the self hatred inside the black community is absurd.
@@CoolMagmar Right?! I'll also add to the fact that blacks who grew up with mostly white friends and lived in mostly white neighborhoods/areas/schools then suddenly jump to poverty/ghetto areas and schools will have an even worse outlook on their race especially since their not educated on communities like that. They'll think blacks are the worse because of the school they went to was mostly back, but fail to realize its not a race issue, its just that teens and preteens are immature as fuck, usually, and that if they were in any other poverty school that was any other race, like white, then they would realize that teens are just like that in general.
@@candicoated2001 Nothing, it's a fine ship, but it was very popular in its day, and when I saw that the main otp was "dark-skinned femme with long dark flowing hair and light-skinned masc with short straight messy dark hair and a brooding expression" I started to wonder about possible influences.
I was on tumblr during those days and I don't remember if they were into zutara but I do remember that they were VERY into starting arguments about/involving themself with ATLA discourse, especially when LoK came out (they had an extremely specific obsession with complaining about how problematic korrasami was as a ship if I recall correctly), so there's a very high possibility of that being intentional zutara influence
Had a dude a few years ago say he'd make a game every class, he'd always talk about making a game, but every time he'd talk about making a completely different game.
@@iwakeupandboomimarat hopefully, I sure truly hope it gets shut down honestly. I mean it’s such a hell hole im genuinely scared of it and what is capable off. There sure is a whole bunch of great and good people there but, for the safety of others and so many people this cite needs to go.
Same. Like...maybe I'm an idiot who uses Tumblr but if psych ward has taught me anything, it's to never trust anyone ever, question everything, and don't give no-one your money.
I've been on tumblr for about 8 years at this point (saw it become the hellsite that it is today) and I found that young, impressionable and most of all sheltered people tended to gravitate towards the site at least during the years mentioned in the story. People found a true sense of community there, many finding like minded people for the first time in their lives. That environment was the perfect storm for scammers, predators and all sorts of assholes.
Aren't tumblr users the same people that say they are woke and want safe spaces? If you want safe spaces you are gullible, there's your answer. Safe spaces is for controlled environments like when your going to an AA meeting of 10 people, but when woke people think they can controll an entire university campus to be a safe space... How are you going to controll thousands of people like that...? Or when they think they can turn a website on the internet into a safespace... with millions of people...
Super strange. I'm disabled from birth and simply use a wheelchair, or, in that game's creator's eyes, "obviously disabled." It's really disconcerting when someone lets a person's disability, no matter the degree, obscure their physical attractiveness. Many of us can be attractive in our own ways, but it's far from impossible for us to be physically attractive right off the bat. We can be hot too, lol
About her rant. No, when you make a game you don't jump straight to coding, but the problem is that her Arkh project had nothing besides fanart, she had no ideas for the game itself, how it was all going to work, and what the story would be. She's a completely delusional person who lives in a fantasy world. You can see by the way she describes her imaginary life that she's very sheltered or very young: she lives in a mansion, all by herself (the fact she needed to say this makes me believe she lives with her parents), with high ceilings, a pool, a jacuzzi... Shes a software dev, got a job just a few weeks ago, but she also goes to school, and she also has a her own company with lots of clients. She works from home (many many years pre-pandemic, this was extremely rare) and lives 5 minutes away from her job. It's like a child dreaming about the future.
Because that's all people who want 'diverse games' have to offer. They just wanna see loads of powerful brown people and don't care about GAMES as a whole. That's why people who spearhead quote "diverse" games today, those games are RARELY successful. Because all they have is 'diversity' they have no artistic vision or motivations other THAN diversity. It's sad and pathetic.
That whole "you are native american with some irreverent black ancestry" at 11:48 just shows how uneducated riley is, as it is possible for a black Native American to have like 0 Native American ancestry in them and still be Native American. If you're confused let me explain, Once slavery was abolished Native Americans/tribes who owned slaves were told by the government to make their slaves part of their tribes. I know their was a small portion of time where the Native Americans kinda kicked them out of their tribes, but they got it back at the end of the day.
For anyone curious, looking up Freedmen of ___ Tribe (I know the Cherokee and Choctaw??? are the easiest to find.) There are likely more, but the tribes that had slaves were often parts of the 5 Civilized Tribes (aka they didn't attack white people lmao) and obviously not all tribes (less likely, the further west you get) had slaves. But yes, it's absolutely possible to be native with no "native blood", and is 100% step one in why "native blood" is a irrelevant and useless label and concept.
Also, many northern tribes around the Great Lakes, as well as some larger nations in the southwest took in escaped black folks to protect them from the Slave Patrol.
:'00 that's crazy. My grandma on my dad's side once told me they were native american, even name dropped a tribe. Ill have to ask her if this is what she meant happened
I actually remember seeing the gofundme page for the undertale clone game when it was up and what I remember about it is that it didn't use Riley's name anywhere or mention any of their other "projects" but the thing that gave it away as being Riley behind it is that it said absolutely nothing about the game it was supposedly meant for but it repeatedly mentioned how black/trans/disabled the creator was and how you had a responsibility to give money to them to prove you weren't racist/transphobic/ableist and that was so recognizable to me as riley's specific brand of bullshit that I instantly knew it was them.
"Black people and Asian men are unattractive" Okay that reeks of someone from a tiny racist town whos never actually met anyone who isn't white irl (I've seen beautiful, gorgeous, hot people of every background/race. Theres 'ugly' people and beautiful people in every race on earth. I cant imagine thinking that--i would have missed out on a lot of great relationships if I only dated white people. Plus... beauty! Is! Subjective! I find people v attractive who my friends think are ugly, and vice versa. That's how human attraction works) Oh... hes not white and he hates natives. I wish I could say I was surprised, but this is common even among minority groups. I say this as a half cree woman. Its trying to turn suffering into a competition. I've never been called the n word but I sure as hell have been called every native slur in the book. I'm sorry I just. This bothers me so much.
I really hate that some types of bigotry are seen as "less bad" than others. It's not a goddamn tier list 🤦♀️ I'm sorry that people have been such jackasses
Damn between this, dashcon, the Miss. officer & Mr. truffles thing and the Brony dating sim I'm starting to think people on Tumblr were really scammable
They are. They'll grasp at anything that's inclusive and not care about anything else. Sadly, most of those people have moved to Twitter now, and are harassing a minor because of their Animal Crossing character being white and having a certain haircut
2013 Tumblr Scammer: "Hey look the word gullible is written in the ceiling!" Literally everyone on Tumblr in 2013: " oOOoo where?" * looks up * 2013 Tumblr Scammer: * steals their money and runs *
If you think you can do it, you should give it a real try. Maybe it'll work and maybe it won't but you can't be successful without a few failures amirite?
@sleepy devil ive made a short webcomic, and the only thing i can say is, do it! The best way to learn is through doing it! I learned so much just by doing it!
I feel like any project that's marketing revolves around how inclusive it is is probably trash... like ok cool, I love representation, but shouldn't you care more about the plot/gameplay/art is actually good???
Yup, that feeling of being like "oh, hey, that person is like me" lasts for a moment. If you don't actually do anything interesting with it or tell a good story, then that's all it's gonna be: a neat moment in an otherwise underwhelming/naff bit of media. Marketing things that way can also kill buzz for stuff too. An example I bring up is Birds of Prey, easily one of my favourite comic book flicks of the last decade. It was fun, bombastic, stylish, totally embracing it being a film based on a comic, and Ewan McGregor looked like he was having a blast as Black Mask. I maintain that this film did poorly largely because of how badly it was marketed and a whole load of other Twitter bull that meant that they wouldn't just let the quality of the movie speak for itself.
Exactly, and it feels baity, because when things are marketed only for being diverse, it feels to me like the people making those projects don't actually care about the issues they're talking about and instead make said projects only to be praised for being "woke" (God I hate this word, but it's the only one that can explain the concept well). This is something called performative activism, people exploiting minorities to gain praise.
Pieces of media that use the fact they have lgbt characters, disabled characters, characters of colour etc as a major selling point have the same energy as those food items that say on the packaging that they have no harmful additives. Like, bro… that’s not a selling point. That’s the bare fucking minimum.
"and learn how to paint LOTS of girls" (1:26) *damn* she really knows how to appeal to female artists. Anytime I draw men they look like a cross between a roblox character and fanmade shoujo manga lol
My name is Rylee (a different spelling of Riley) and my three brain cells are in a state of absolute chaos trying to comprehend that the tumblr Riley is quite different and I don’t need to stop to look up every time they’re mentioned
I have been waiting SO LONG for a video on the arkh project, THANK YOU, I still don't even know how to process this video's existence. It's like beholding the true form of a cryptid I've spent a decade hunting in the wild. BLESS. YOU.
7:00pm in NZ so that makes sense. It's always a struggle for Aussie/Kiwi creators to figure out the best posting times. Do you save it for Europe? Or America? Or just for where you live?
Honestly Riley feels so much like the average twitter user that i'm not even surprised. I feel that Ive found at least 10 Rileys in my 2-3 years that I spend in stantwt
yeah, it's because a lot of those people were on tumblr back in the day, but many of them left for twitter as time passed, especially after tumblr banned most nsfw content a few years ago. so now tumblr is quieter than it was in the past, and twitter turned into what tumblr had once been. i think it also helped that there arent a ton of younger people joining tumblr now, so a lot of the people who are there are like in their 20s now and have slightly more common sense than they did when they were like 14 (but tbf that bar is really low), while on twitter you have younger people learning to behave like that too, keeping that mess going. there's a bit of a joke on tumblr that, at any given moment, twitter is just having basically the same controversial messy discourse that happened on tumblr like 3 years prior. and it's kinda true.
they're honestly all over and all they do is simp for problematic people, get mad if we say they're in parasocial relationships and then tell you you're toxic for not wanting to hear about idk the beatles or taylor swift every day
God I remember this and I remember getting lectured about how bad it was that I had no faith in this project, especially regarding how the creator was an absolute creep and rancid person.
“Let’s be real, everyone has gone through that phase of thinking they can make a Triple A Game” Not me pouring my heart and soul into my sloth mmorpg 💀
@@stardustlover8446 I'm black and had a black guy called me a house n****r for disagreeing on his hate of white people. It happens unfortunately. Sometimes for no reason at all.
I like how the team’s answer to every question was “yes, but also maybe no. We’ll figure it out once we finish the game.” I get it’s hard to know the full scope of a project in the beginning phases, but some of their responses in the faq were so wishy washy.
of course i'm not sure how much of what Riley's saying is true, but as an autistic person, it's fucking hilarious to me that they never mentioned being autistic until years later when they started getting a lot of backlash. (of course, it is possible that they got diagnosed during that time period, but i feel like it's also possible that they're just trying to deflect criticism by adding more marginalized identities as a shield, whether they actually are of these identities or not.)
The fact that Riley claims to have so many marginalized identities as a defense for being racist makes me think they probably weren’t actually everything they claimed to be
i don’t understand how they would have answered the “non conventional attractive characters” question because as it’s gonna be animated so they were going to be attractive but the creators definitely answered wrong 😬 like they should have said they had a large range of character styles in hopes everyone finds someone they find attractive.
but yeah the fact that they didn’t even have any like dialogue screenshots or some pics of backgrounds and barely any story. i’m surprised they got as much as they did
Listen I'm in the same skin tone as you, but having to believe people and their thoughts about other races is not what you should be focused on, you're beautiful and strikingly strong in your skin. Our skin is made to battle the sun than other races and how we are build is amazing. Don't let any low life like Riley tell you otherwise who you are, hatred will always be in the world and we can't change how bad the world will get but for damn sure don't let someone who by the way *scamed* people out of their money tell you who you're supposed to be in their eyes. Everyone of you are beautiful no matter your skin, gender and sexuality, you're amazing i don't wanna see *ANYONE OF YOU* fall victim to low live opinions like hers.
@@wasabilover1293 You said tan skin and curly hair those are racially ambiguous traits. Not dark skin and kinky/coiled hair. Which kinda proves the point.
I'm a dev who narrowly escaped working for Riley/Sierra in my early days (during Kinou Games era). What a nightmare. Seeing the Arkh project years later gives me shivers. I'm still haunted by it and was wondering if this would be one of Riley/Sierra's projects judging by the title of the video.
Nah, as someone who has used all three I'd say it's more like the fucked up evolutionary predecessor to both in terms of the culture. Like you know when you look at the fucked up ancient version of a dolphin? That's tumblr...... and I love it
From what I've seen, Tumblr is more like the shitty uncle of Twitter and Instagram. Most of thier memes and general interaction culture comes from tumblr tbh (since a significant chunk of tumblr's userbase migrated to insta and Twitter after the Big Ban of 2018). The worst of Twitter and Instagram has probably already happened on tumblr but nowhere near as bad because nothing about tumblr encourages hierarchy or parasocial relationships (as in follower count isnt even displayed and most people dont remember usernames so theres no weight behind someone's words if you just see it on your tl)
@@royalscholar7504 do you mean the protowhale or the ichthyosaur? because the later isnt a mammal and actually has nothing to do with dolphins aside from doing the same thing
I would never understand this mentality of "I'll take what I can get" when it comes to representation, this whole thing had so many red flags that even when at times it was obviously sketchy... people that wanted representation still believed it. I think even more so in early tumblr years where a lot of them were young teenagers or young adults that didn't know better, as to why it was so easy to scam tumblr. As a mostly gay person, at times I find it cool to be represented in media especially when is subtle, but when someone makes a character that their whole trait is that they are gay... that's pretty bad, not to mention trying to have this token character so people talk about it. It's similar in this case, the game was just the fact that there was black people, gay people, etc but nothing else.
I feel this but can kinda understand why When I first realized I was non-binary (a few years ago so there wasn't a lot of places to go for representation) I looked for any cartoon characters that I could relate to and understand. I landed on a show that was on the level of family guy who had a non-binary character and I kinda idolized them. Now I realize it was a gag character meant to be the butt of jokes and not to be a relatable one. So like you said its most likely teens/young adults just looking for anything and not understanding what's considered "good" rep
@@rainbow9299 Long time ago anything that wasn't straight was pretty much a gag in shows, now since things have changed so it has the media but that could either be good or bad depending who you ask. Personally I see it as a bit more to the bad side, since corporations make characters like that to attract people to their thing, often as a marketing tool and not really caring that much. In the other side you have teens/young adults that draw nothing but black and gay characters that bitch about not being represented or just attack other people for the dumbest of reasons, sometimes changing a white character to black to "improve it". Rambling aside, is incredibly rare to have some sort of representation done correctly without having so much pandering or done without monetary intentions.
I think people who are like that are just self conscious and have a hard time relating to people who aren't like them on a superficial level. Like I fucking hate asexual representation and don't want it cause i'm asexual myself. It's always garbage trash and I'd rather just have a character I can relate to personality wise than the bare minimum of being a biological trait you can't control, especially the one no one even understands what it means in our year of goddamn 2020.
Riley is one of those things where, because they were from that period in my life where I was learning about social justice related things, but consequently became really, *really* panicked over being a good ally, upon encountering shitstorms like her I would just try to grit my teeth and smile, and tell myself, "Nothing is wrong. They're not psychotic and disturbed and conspicuously vague about what they do with money. You're just being oversensitive, you just don't *get it* , stop questioning things." And now I can only look back and think, "Yeah, no...shit was always fucked up."
"We're not living on a golden age of diverse media" *Hades being in every GOTY list* : Am I a Joke to you? We might not be there yet, but in 2012 it'd be impossible to believe things like Hades, Celeste, She-ra or even Call of Duty adding NB identities to a AAA videogame would happen.
Felt like COD did it to blatantly disguise the Red Scare propaganda that was Cold War, also to veer away from the controversy featuring Yuri Bezmenov would bring.
Riley is uncle Ruckus. I'm black, but I found it so funny that I INSTANTLY knew she was black just based off of her little rant about black men (a common complaint in the black community) She genuinely just needs to get arrested at this point.
I have known 2 black women who were incredibly racist against black men, they said shit I'm sure even white supremacist wouldn't say And they were both very leftist "woke" women I also feel one kinda fetishized me, I'm white passing and she focused a lot on my features specifically It was a weird experience
Not really. They're causing extinction of endangered species because they want 'exotic' pets. They also have a lot of political arguments there. And some tiktok stars drama here and there. There's also a rise or the "I'm not like the other girls" girls there as well. It's a mess.
They also seem to be discovering the internet for the first time ever because they're making things that were trendy back in 2000s or 2010s trendy again for some reason and claim to just discovered now.
Very fitting for one of the pledges be called "Silver-tongued Love"... isn't a silver-tongue usually used to describe convincing/persuasive but often deceiving or otherwise untrustworthy characters? At least I have never heard it used as a fully positive trait-
Omg ... I followed this project and Riley back in 2012 (I followed Riley for years before that too) and I was so impressionable and mentally vulnerable at the time (mid-teens to early 20s with a bunch of then-undiagnosed mental illnesses) that for some reason I fell for everything they said and become totally brainwashed. I don't remember all the stuff they said about other Black people but mostly about white and Asian people (I'm white and Asian) and it led me to hate myself and genuinely hate other white and Asian people which looking back I'm so disgusted with myself and embarrassed at some of the things I said on my own now-deleted tumblr blog that I'm honestly haunted with it every day that someone will find screenshots and still think I'm that horrible person. I was hooked in with them supposedly standing for minorities and being strongly against racism, and I'm still strongly against racism but now I see it wasn't really about racism for them and just their ego and I feel terrible that I replicated some of their behavior because that's what I thought anti-racism was. Also I likely donated to the project back then (when I barely had any money of my own) because of Riley's guilt-tripping. Sorry for the long comment but this brought up a lot of traumatic memories for me haha.
@@shiloha5646 Thank you so much, I've come to accept that I can't change what I've said or done in the past but just try to be the best person I can be now :) Part of me hopes that somehow Riley has also seen the error of their ways and can grow from this as well.
you guys weren't the only ones who fell for riley's bullshit. i believed a lot of the shit they said too. i agree that it felt like getting brainwashed. i'm sorry you guys went through that. :(
this is why whenever i hear about an indie game concept that im interested in, i dont like.. put any money into it or anything until its actually out and have some reviews. also a worringly high amount of shit on tumblr that gets popular is by really gross, abusive, and/or discriminatory people so its just a thing at this point :--(
i fell asleep with this channel's videos playing and opened my eyes exactly at 14:07 i was actually about to piss my pants when izzzy stared at me through the screen for a full 8 seconds without saying anything 😭
Some aditional memories: I dont know if it was because of who i was following/our ages at the time, but people were HYPE for this thing. People really did believe it had a very high chance of being made, despite the (in retrospect) dismal state of the kickstarter. Im my memories i saw it being pitched as more of a visual novel with rpg elements, which i think had justified having only a few pieces of character art etc for a lot of people. Also not mentioned was the drama where it turned out that a dress one of the characters was wearing was a stolen design from an actual designer. Odly enough i remember this as a turning point in the general perception of the game. In modern times we are comarativly spoiled for representation, even though it still isnt perfect. At the time a lot of people were dreaming of better representation, and trying to work towards making it themselves. Which is why i think it seemed to make sense for something like this to be made, and why a lot of people didnt really question what was, in retrospect, a really shaky kickstarter campaign...
@@eidoleon i recall the visual novel angle being mentioned as well, which was (i believe) also in their post about plans to implement farming systems. they were really promising everything under the sun in the most vague and contradicting of ways and yet questioning the feasibility was such a sin
I just realized this, but the FAQ was written with every ounce of energy as the people that write fanfiction and pair two men together but make one of them a woman so they don't have to write a gay couple.
ooh, i was at ground zero for this one! it seemed like a scam from day one, but i wasn't interested until receipts of Riley being disgusting got shared.
@@anerrorhasoccurred8727 this is explicityl because hey all migrated-or atleast these folks- from tumblr to twitter thanks to the rule change, that or they just naturally did it. if you wanna know why twitter is so ass, this is why
I have autism as well and it feels like thier faking it and just using it as a defense. Most likely to pull the "You're a ablest card" instead of facing the consequences of thier actions.
Man, this takes me back. I'm surprised more people don't bring up the arhk project when talking about tumblr drama EDIT: Thinking back, I think this project had an official comic with some... problematic elements such as one character being the slave of another, but tbh my memory is fuzzy
Okay so I'm not the only one who saw a bit of that, yeah, it was very much the author doing a kind of D/S dynamic and basically just wanting to do an anime romance with no indication of any larger conflict that might power an RPG.
Gawd can’t believe I knew them back when all they were doing was saying HaruMichi Sailor Moon is bad LGBT rep bc …. somethingsomething “my OCs are better”
Y’know it’s bad when a few times throughout the video I was like “…not even YandereDev did shit like that!” and immediately felt dirty but I wasn’t wrong
Lol that's too funny "it includes black and Asian people who are largely not considered attractive" that's always a good start
Notice how NOONE ever said something like that,they just assume everyone has the same horrible opinions like them,because they're narcissists with a superiority complex + bigotry
When I read I that was shocked out of my mind about the blatant racism.
it wasn't that bad she's just saying that compared to the obviously superior white people who are all naturally attractive an...
... ok its very racist
I don’t think you guys get a huge part of it was that at that time admitting that you acknowledged ppl outside of the “western beauty standard” was a fast huge way to get clout and the more active you were the more you got. Riley would go on rants against white ppl all the time.
@@JoltYourLife As a man from the Balkans who has no frigging idea about the state-of-mind in the USA,i gotta ask:
1.This "beauty standard",why do people care so much about it?It's not like the magazines have any valuable opinion,and it's just the average,there are a lot of exceptions to it.Everyone loves pectorals-ergo every superhero is really buff,but noone's gonna act like Pornhub is real life.
2.Almost all media treats eastern europe as either USSR or a brick+mortar village that's part of an USSR expy.It's not like any Serbians or Macedonians were negativelly affected by that,yet having a majority white cast is detrimental to other minorities?How?USA is still a mostly white country,and i don't belive people's self worth should be based on vain cashcow media.
3.You mentioned it was trendy to go "against the system" and "acknowledge ppl who aren't conventionally atractive" but why is that?A woman astronaut would've been groundbreaking 4 decades ago,not so much today when everyone already knows men and women are equal,and there's not a war between the 2.
Sorry if i frazed something the wrong way,mostly trying to understand the way ppl think and do things.Cheers
when the question about non-conventionally attractive characters came up i was thinking characters with weak facial structure or bad teeth but holy shit
*B L A C K P E O P L E*
You're the racist one, you're the one thinking (insert racism)
How about half monster creatures? I think that would be “non-conventionally attractive”.
I mean, if the character is half starved to death, gray skinned, with their head on backwards, and with either bulging or missing eyes and broken teeth, I would not be attracted to that.
@@Dressup_Doll I tend to like the
non-conventionally attractive.
@@Dressup_Doll wdym thats a daddy right there
you’re gonna have to make a tumblr iceberg at this point
i genuinely wanna see this so bad now
We might need Eldena Doubleca5t and STRANGE ÆONS help for that one
Yoo i was thinking about this too
a trip down the underground pipes of hell sounds good, count me in
Please no 😩😭
I'm a lesbian, but if I see anything advertising "Our product is super inclusive! We have POC and LGBTQA+ stuff in it!" that's a turn off to me. Something as simple as diversity shouldn't be a marketing point in any project, and whenever I see something advertising that aspect as a selling point, it makes me suspicious.
As it should. Take the story og peliniel whitestrake in elderscrolls. Best historical figure and yet if you research it, it was the elves killing his male lover that sparked the war that caused the entire games empire to occur. He just happens to be gay. Gay is not his personality.
High Guardian Spice comes to mind as a fine example of such a failure.
Same, I'm a lesbian that supports POC, but I don't think that just saying that their's people like that in a product is a good selling point. It's just a way to get more supporters on your project. I feel like this is the thing with the loud house. I'm not saying that the loud house is a bad show, I just don't like it, the jokes aren't that good, and the characters can be rather obnoxious at times. I think a reason why people like that show is only because it has a diverse cast. Then take for example Craig of the creek, well yes POC is technically a selling point the show has so many other things holding it, the characters are enjoyable, the world they live in feels like something you too would have loved to play in as a child, the dialogue is witty, and fart jokes are to a minimal.
me? that's gonna be a word of mouth outrage thing from the people who hate it
@@FL0ra_favvn Well, I've never watched the Loud House, but I think the problem with it is more people defending it because of its diversity. I don't recall them ever marketing the show as being diverse.
"Do you have unattractive characters?"
"We have black and disabled people"
All blind people suddenly started being ugly
And masculine/feminine people plur Asians see how woke we are? We fetishize minority's lol pay us loser 🙄🙃
I cringed into myself at that moment
It's the audacity for me
😬
"Are there any 'not conventionally attractive characters?'"
"We have black characters."
😬
“And trans women.”
😐
If only youtube let me upload that one picture of the white students giving the one black student a cake for being black cause it fits this
yeah no that’s a yikes there
@@squashedshibber2684 excuse me, what??? Omfg. That actually happened?
@@blackpilllegion7243 Shut up.
4:40 “Masculine Asians” are not considered conventionally attractive.
Idk, have you ever played the Yakuza games
Though I do like Yakuza, DBZ and Bleach so it's not like 'I' do not like masculine asian dudes. They're just not the most conventionally appreciated.
the dame da ne game??
@@guacbird The dame da ne game.
I heart Nishiki
I had another comment on here saying that Riley was basically right with the conventionally attractive statement but it has gone missing. Just want people to know that.
When someone asked about unconventionally attractive characters and they said black and trans people 🤭🤭 oh my god what a mess
Yeah like, it should have been a massive red flag that for "unattractive" they immediately rattled off masculine Asian people, black people in general, trans women, disabled people, and overweight people as if that was their list of people who were usually unappealing or ugly, which is weird and just untrue.
They couldve listed off certain traits like. idk skinny bone arms, i absolutely hate my skinny arms. Or maybe curly hair bc ive had people tell me my hair looks "dirty" and should be straightened. but NO they listed off entire groups of people wtf
@@puppiekit curly hair would still be bad cause a lot of POC have curly hair. Frizzy hair might be a little better cause people of any background can have it
@@ocinidolegna idk i feel like having straight hair has been a beauty standard for much of the 2000s to 2010s. just because a specific race often has a particular trait doesn’t mean it’s racist to say it’s not the beauty standard. hell, i’m white and i have super curly frizzy hair lmao.
Where's the lie?
"Hey, are there going to be unconventionally attractive people?"
"Oh, you mean minorities?"
Yandere Dev wishes he could scam this well
lmao right
He did though. Sad thing is, he’s STILL getting money.
Tbf Yandere Dev at the very least has a playable demo of his game, which is much more than these people have to show. He doesn't strike me as a scammer so much as just a guy whose ego and ambitions grew wayyyyy beyond his actual abilities
@@puppppppies That's not saying too much. His demo is a joke. It has FAR more bugs in it than the previous builds and is only motivated to work on this 'game' if it can make over 1k in revenue to feel motivated in doing so. So basically only doing it for the money as much as he's used volunteers and others. He's trash just like the scammers.
@@orbitalpudding1946
Agreed. He pretty much did scam those since he never really delivered a proper game he promised. It took 6 YEARS to add in Osana fully and she's the 1st rival you deal with. I heard of it firstly in 2014 then in 2020 I was reminded of its existence and was shocked it wasn't in a deeper developed stage.
god Riley is like the prototype for every single abusive psuedo-woke Twitter and Instagram user in 2020 who feels they're immune to criticism because they're a marginalized identity
I've been on tumblr since 2011 (when I was 13 y/o) and I'm surprised I didn't knew about this until now. Specially hard to believe considering I was very into these subjects and I'm left speechless at how horrendous of a person Riley seems to be.
"pseudo"
yeah i have people like that to. I get it you've been kicked around but that don't mean you can do no wrong.
did you mean: kalvin garrah
@@berrybugs7767 no i mean people in general being a victim don't mean you can't be guilty of the same bullshit.
You should be better then the hateful deceitful human trash you despise you know.
when i was 15 and this was still going on i called out this game for seeming like a scam and got so much vitriolic hate calling me awful things. as a young person who was still just trying to explore and understand my own identity under the lgbt spectrum it was the first time i realized how legitimately awful tumblr users in that era could be when you question something popular.
But that's just the majority Tumblr culture in a nutshell isn't it? A supposedly anti authoritarian, questioning, rebellious, pro diversity crowd of folks who eat their own when they step out of line by questioning anything that's the current trend.
They only got worse though and now its all on twitter
Its not just tumblr thats humanity in general.
a lot of tumblr scares me, _it scares me so much._
Tumblr literally popularized "burn blogs" at one point.. like literally the equivalent of a burn book but for tumblr users. The 2010's were such a disgusting time for tumblr. Remember tumblr prom? Fuck
that 1 second clip of a run cycle lives in my head rent-free
The next E3 will just be a bunch of million dollar companies presenting their one second unlooped run cycle and walking offstage
Timestamp please
@@noxturnaI 15:29
Right she needs to start paying rent
@@Izzzyzzz I read that way too fast and almost pissed myself laughing at the thought of someone going onstage to present a game and mimicking the run cycle while trying to get off stage but staying in place
The total lack of respect these scammers had for POC and LGBTQIA+ people, it’s just disgusting.
There's something so insidious to me about how often they went off on black men, as if they knew they could get away with racism by attaching it to the "bad gender"
@@ds4251 yeah it reminds me of when white men will make fun of white women and thinking they can get away w misogyny because they put the word "white" in front of it(despite also being white)
Capitalists oppress news at 10
4:33 im listening to this while working on an animation and i literally recoiled from my drawing tablet in shock when the first answer to this question was "there will be black characters"
“This guy probably had 7 games planned”
Me, who has an entire shelf of papers and notebooks of game ideas I’ve been saving since I was five: huh, weird isn’t it
Just make it comics and wham bam it is me (I Can’t draw well so uh)
sell those for 100,000$ for your game
@@Briisneat big mood. i have an idea for a superhero comic but i can't draw worth a damn, and i still gotta figure out the origin story. feels bad.
@@cheatboy111 it will be so cool probs superhero comics are so basic rn
Thought I was the only one lol
There are so many women of colour that Riley harassed and fetished, I followed a lot of them back in the way and they have not forgotten. Early Tumblr was considered especially hellish for WOC because of Riley and their cronies.
Arkh also made it real easy for anti-sjs to say "look, see! this game represents social justice, and just trust me that everyone agrees about that. See how they don't actually care about minorities? if you see someone getting angry about representation just remember they're the same as the Arkh team!"
@@QuikVidGuy though there were many bad actors, to be fair a lot of early antiSJWs were pointing out how vulnerable to exploitation and misdirected hate SJW communities can become because of their methods and tendency to discard any criticism as inherently hateful
I was one of them...the fucking trauma. She made me hate being Asian, I was so fucked up from it.
@@chainsnroses1193 i am so sorry ):
God no wonder there was so much rage in PoC Tumblr back then, I saw it a lot. There were several black artists I followed at the time and they all were so angry about this. Imagine being marginalized IRL, then coming onto a website that's supposed to be inclusive only to be marginalized there, too. I literally cannot imagine, since I'm not PoC, but my god. Those poor people.
The way that minorities are constantly manipulated and preyed upon is so upsetting.We ask for the BARE MINIMUM, we just want to exist within media and are treated as if we are insane for asking that. At this point it’s not a bar, it’s an underground pipe and people STILL find a way disappoint.
people still manage to tunnel under those incredibly low pipes like mole men.
The reason that disappointment still exists is because of that manipulation and people who know they have to do the bare minimum and still get praise as if they invented fire for the first time.
Here's a tip; a person who cares about diversity wouldn't talk about it as if they came up with the idea of having a diverse cast of ANYTHING. They wouldn't advertise themselves FIRST and 'how diverse' everything is and leave out what makes the characters UNIQUE as their own person rather than acting as if ONE singular character represent the whole of culture where people are still individuals while still holding to their culture. They also won't act as if said minorities owe them blow jobs for having one Black character or just race bending someone else.
If someone acts like you owe them ANYTHING for shit tier work, RUN. Run far away because that person is a manipulative asshole and they view you as a prize, not a person.
Your not treated as insane stop whining
@@turtleboy1188 are you joking
@@turtleboy1188 ah yes because you know more than all the marginalized groups,just shut up luv.
people who hide behind having a minority label as an excuse for acting like a sack of shit are honestly one of the most frustrating brands of people to deal with.
i had an ex queerplatonic partner exactly like this
Honestly, imo not using the word gay/straight/lesbian in fantasy isn't inherently problematic. I read a book series about a gay mage, and there simply wasn't a word for it, so his aunt combined different words to create a description 'one who loves one likes themself' (in a romantic non-incestuous way) is a bit much, so shay'a'chern had to make do. The thing is, as long as there is a word to describe it it makes sense, and imo this part added in the immersion and plot building/character development
Yeah that’s good. Something creative or if it’s a fictional language or other world or species or whatever and you’re told whatever the equivalent is
may i ask what book is it?
@@damnthatscrazy605 the trilogy is called The Last Herald-Mage, and the individual books are called Magic's Pawn, Magic's Promise and Magic's Price
I read a book like that except the main character was Trans. But it was written so well that it took a while to figure that out and the character never relied on their transness to be a character trait. It just was what he was. The world didn't have a word for trans either. The book is called The Raven Tower
Seconded! It'd probably knock the reader out of the experience if the characters randomly stopped their quest to say "now, readers, let's talk about how gay and valid the protagonist is." Coming up with creative, laid-back ways to integrate it into the worldbuilding is much better imo.
Again, like "Ms. Officer And Mr. Truffles," this sounded like a good and interesting idea but of course the developers were sketchy and the person behind the idea instead of doing something bad in the past ended up being a crappy person being racist and abusive..
Idk which person you’re talking about but I think there was one person who rumors that weren’t true were spread about
This is nothing like Officer/Truffles at all.
@@qoyote Welll to me it was similar not the same.
@@qoyote I can kinda see someeee similarities. Mainly, Kickstarter falls through for an idea that the tumblr community was hyped for/made fan art for. :3
Riley is kinda the source of the insanely aggro tumblr culture that moved to twitter I think. Not a fan.
i used twitter for about a year after the porn ban but just ended up going back to tumblr... twitter was so bad for my mental health it wasnt funny.
I almost spit my drink out when Riley called their critics "colonizers" because that's totally in line with that contingent of Twitter users
Dude. I was there. They were basically the first LJ social justice warrior grifter, BEFORE SJW and grifters were common terms. You're 1000% right and you have no idea how accurate your comment is.
w o k e
@@neoqwerty So Riley deadass destroyed the internet as we know it? Oh no.
I think people don't realise the reign of terror Riley instated on Tumblr in those days. It was actually so scary, like you lived in complete fear of being doxxed or bullied. The absolute adamantine power of influence they had was crazy and their legion of fans and supporters were massive. Riley went unquestioned and unchallenged for ages. I think the appeal was that they were not "pc" and initially started out as a somewhat anti-sj sjw if that makes any sense? They said things people were "too afraid to say" and that won them a lot of respect. They also took advantage of the rampant anti-blackness that was in many marginalised communities on Tumblr especially on Art Tumblr and positioned themselves as a liberator and authority. Riley had a lot of issues with internalised homophobia, anti-blackness, extreme xenophobia and (trans) misogyny/misogynoir and when called out they would (and I hate myself for saying this) literally pull out the race/queer card and call out their cronies to cyberbully and run people off the platform and act as a victim and constantly use mental health and trauma as a shield while ironically using other people's trauma against them. You literally had to pray that your post never caught their attention or you were done for. The era of ironic racism and toxic trolling in that era of the internet created the monster that Riley was because before them no one really had the guts to actually go against these trolls only to ironically become the people who they claimed to hate. Unfortunately after Riley's demise it created a vacuum for others to take their place and that's why Tumblr is the hellhole it is today. Riley was just an insecure, unfulfilled, glorified hotep who was bullied for being a nerd in high school and everyone should feel sorry for them. Wow the way they used to BEG for money too! My god this just unlocked so much 😂😂
WOW this is really interesting and well written, thanks so much for your input!! I knew they were a pretty big figure in the community for a while but I never knew they were THIS big. I've heard from multiple people that they believe Riley genuinely shaped tumblr and even internet culture in an extremely harmful way. To make that big of an impact through pure hatred and abuse... wow.
@@Izzzyzzz I don't use the term "reign of terror" lightly that's exactly what it was 😂😂 I'm actually surprised no one has made a video about them at all! But then again I understand some may not want to even touch it, I kid you not, due to PTSD. Riley is literally an infamous icon! Problematic Empress! To understand Riley and how they were born you have to understand the Tumblr Art community and Tumblr gaming community as it was in those days. You just couldn't be an openly queer/bipoc/atypical/GNC gamer or artist without being hunted by trolls for sport you just couldn't. Things aren't any better now but God it was horrific back then so you can understand how Riley was a breath of fresh air and a hero to many. I really don't want people to make fun of those who donated to that fail of a project because the desperation hunny 💕💕 we were beyond beyond excited for it haha! To do a Riley video would mean going down a dark dark rabbit hole. Kudos to you 😂😂
Given what I know about Riley, I think it should be discussed, it's connected to the lingering affects of Shakesville, Mardoll, anti Grimdark backlash, and why SFF writers have been fleeing to Horror and other Genres, because SFF has been getting way too toxic.
@@chrystals.4376 what happened with Shakesville? I remember I used to read them a lot waaaaaay back in the day, but I don't remember seeing a lot of crossover onto Tumblr, nor do I remember encountering any drama.
ngl ngl this is why i'm often put off by those e-begging posts going "if you don't donate to me on x day, you're anti-black and anti-indigenious" or whatever - bye.. it's the same vibe as riley's behavour
having multiple skin tones, body types, face shapes should be the standard for ALL video games. making a game thats focal point is "we include all these things!" is a red flag especially when they havent written what the story quests will be or even the main storyline.
"Will you have any conventionally unattractive characters?"
"It'll have Black people in it :)"
That gave me fucking whiplash who *SAYS* that
Man, that Riley section was just... Jesus, it made me want to puke
honestly what a horrible, hateful person
@X_Pistol_Princess_ X 2016?? I think you mean 2006
@X_Pistol_Princess_ X fair enough
For real I needed to pause. They’re truly scum of the earth
@X_Pistol_Princess_ X as does yours, friend
My first thought on looking at the art was just, "The Sims Mediaeval already exists though."
Seriously underrated game, and you can be any ethnicity or sexuality you want in it. Imo it still holds up today, you just have to grind through the boring tutorial quest before it gets good.
vouch
Preach. Just picked it up again yesterday. It's definitely incredibly funny, I totally forgot how most Sims you diagnose will just immediately leave your little medicine hut even if you tell them that they have the plague. Like: "Hey dude, you have the plague. Don't worry, I can help you and make sure that you won't infect anyone, please follow me to this-" "Bye!"
EDIT: BTW it's still so goddamn surreal that the skin textures and the models look better than the ones in TS3. Like I know that the game released two years later than TS3 but like...idk maybe the models in your cool mainline game should be better than the one in your little medieval-AU side-game
I WAS NOT AWARE THIS EXISTED
My fiancee and have been and still are so frustrated that more wasn't done with The Sims Medieval. Such a great game.
You actually don't have to do the tutorial quest
Either Riley is horrifically self hating or isn't a poc at all.
Edit: Saw pictures of them, and Uh. Whew. Thats self hate
As someone who VERY ALMOST came close to being like Riley, its probably hatered stemed from being in ghetto schools and poverty areas and just experiencing the recklessness of mostly black teens, although this can happen in almost any race. Also add in some internalized racism of blacks and a bit of hypocrisy and insecurity and you got Riley.
They, on LJ, had a history of claiming to be black, to be black-Japanese, to be of Indian descent (the India ones, not the Colombus can't geography First Nations), and to be part NA Native. They changed their race shirt depending on what would let them get away with called everyone crackers and every nasty word they could while collecting woke points and forming brainwashed SJW toxic mobs by appealing to morality and self-righteousness.
(In short, fuck Riley.)
I'm white and this is just a pretty small sample of my own life so take it with a grain of salt, but many black people I know hate other black people, not saying white people are less racist at all, but the self hatred inside the black community is absurd.
@@CoolMagmar Right?! I'll also add to the fact that blacks who grew up with mostly white friends and lived in mostly white neighborhoods/areas/schools then suddenly jump to poverty/ghetto areas and schools will have an even worse outlook on their race especially since their not educated on communities like that. They'll think blacks are the worse because of the school they went to was mostly back, but fail to realize its not a race issue, its just that teens and preteens are immature as fuck, usually, and that if they were in any other poverty school that was any other race, like white, then they would realize that teens are just like that in general.
@@CoolMagmar 😞 it's so sad to see it happen with your own pears and family. I wish it would stop
Was Riley ever a Zutara shipper? Because some of that concept art strikes me as... reminiscent.
Whats wrong with Zutara shippers?
@@candicoated2001 Nothing, it's a fine ship, but it was very popular in its day, and when I saw that the main otp was "dark-skinned femme with long dark flowing hair and light-skinned masc with short straight messy dark hair and a brooding expression" I started to wonder about possible influences.
I was on tumblr during those days and I don't remember if they were into zutara but I do remember that they were VERY into starting arguments about/involving themself with ATLA discourse, especially when LoK came out (they had an extremely specific obsession with complaining about how problematic korrasami was as a ship if I recall correctly), so there's a very high possibility of that being intentional zutara influence
Zutara shippers are right up there with Evangelion and Harry Potter fans in terms of _”never moving on from baby’s first ship.”_
Riley wrote a fic about how Korrasami is abusive to punish Korrasami ships so I know they were in the fandom
"are there any unconventionally attractive characters?"
"why yes, the minorities!"
Had a dude a few years ago say he'd make a game every class, he'd always talk about making a game, but every time he'd talk about making a completely different game.
I bet if they do make games it's more like an interactive gif
@@akaniotevanos9861 he makes banner ad games
He sounds like Yandere Dev
That's me to my friends when talking about story ideas. Dont come for us 😩
"I'm the idea guy!"
As someone who's been using tumblr for a while now, I can say that no one hates tumblr more than tumblr users lmao.
It do be true.
Agreed
honestly i wont be surprised if it gets shut down during the 2020s, it seems like no company really wants it
@@iwakeupandboomimarat hopefully, I sure truly hope it gets shut down honestly. I mean it’s such a hell hole im genuinely scared of it and what is capable off. There sure is a whole bunch of great and good people there but, for the safety of others and so many people this cite needs to go.
@@TheSwanqueenAndTheEldricth okay but.. the-gaudiest-patronage and pikucho.
"why are tumblr users so gullible", I say this, as a person who uses tumblr mainly.
Same. Like...maybe I'm an idiot who uses Tumblr but if psych ward has taught me anything, it's to never trust anyone ever, question everything, and don't give no-one your money.
Young, in 2012-ish the majority of Tumblr users were teenagers and young adults, Riley was taking advantage of teenagers to live high off the hog.
I've been on tumblr for about 8 years at this point (saw it become the hellsite that it is today) and I found that young, impressionable and most of all sheltered people tended to gravitate towards the site at least during the years mentioned in the story.
People found a true sense of community there, many finding like minded people for the first time in their lives. That environment was the perfect storm for scammers, predators and all sorts of assholes.
Aren't tumblr users the same people that say they are woke and want safe spaces? If you want safe spaces you are gullible, there's your answer. Safe spaces is for controlled environments like when your going to an AA meeting of 10 people, but when woke people think they can controll an entire university campus to be a safe space... How are you going to controll thousands of people like that...? Or when they think they can turn a website on the internet into a safespace... with millions of people...
@@zebnemma im pretty sure twitter weirdos say shit like that too.
Super strange. I'm disabled from birth and simply use a wheelchair, or, in that game's creator's eyes, "obviously disabled." It's really disconcerting when someone lets a person's disability, no matter the degree, obscure their physical attractiveness. Many of us can be attractive in our own ways, but it's far from impossible for us to be physically attractive right off the bat. We can be hot too, lol
About her rant. No, when you make a game you don't jump straight to coding, but the problem is that her Arkh project had nothing besides fanart, she had no ideas for the game itself, how it was all going to work, and what the story would be.
She's a completely delusional person who lives in a fantasy world. You can see by the way she describes her imaginary life that she's very sheltered or very young: she lives in a mansion, all by herself (the fact she needed to say this makes me believe she lives with her parents), with high ceilings, a pool, a jacuzzi... Shes a software dev, got a job just a few weeks ago, but she also goes to school, and she also has a her own company with lots of clients. She works from home (many many years pre-pandemic, this was extremely rare) and lives 5 minutes away from her job. It's like a child dreaming about the future.
Where can I find this rant, anyway?
Because that's all people who want 'diverse games' have to offer. They just wanna see loads of powerful brown people and don't care about GAMES as a whole. That's why people who spearhead quote "diverse" games today, those games are RARELY successful. Because all they have is 'diversity' they have no artistic vision or motivations other THAN diversity. It's sad and pathetic.
Wow, when you said the “woke” game designer was a hypocrite, I was not expecting THAT
That whole "you are native american with some irreverent black ancestry" at 11:48 just shows how uneducated riley is, as it is possible for a black Native American to have like 0 Native American ancestry in them and still be Native American.
If you're confused let me explain,
Once slavery was abolished Native Americans/tribes who owned slaves were told by the government to make their slaves part of their tribes. I know their was a small portion of time where the Native Americans kinda kicked them out of their tribes, but they got it back at the end of the day.
For anyone curious, looking up Freedmen of ___ Tribe (I know the Cherokee and Choctaw??? are the easiest to find.)
There are likely more, but the tribes that had slaves were often parts of the 5 Civilized Tribes (aka they didn't attack white people lmao) and obviously not all tribes (less likely, the further west you get) had slaves.
But yes, it's absolutely possible to be native with no "native blood", and is 100% step one in why "native blood" is a irrelevant and useless label and concept.
ooh that’s cool i didn’t know abt that before, thanks :)
Also, many northern tribes around the Great Lakes, as well as some larger nations in the southwest took in escaped black folks to protect them from the Slave Patrol.
:'00 that's crazy. My grandma on my dad's side once told me they were native american, even name dropped a tribe. Ill have to ask her if this is what she meant happened
at this point I do not even expect Riley to be educated- there’s no way you can be black without having at least some Native American ancestory
rip to that one star glitter that fell off your cheek while you were recording. F
timestamp?
@@guacbird I need kt
@@guacbird i dont think it falls off on camera it was just on her cheek in one shot and gone in the next
@@pippingtonne ah
F
I actually remember seeing the gofundme page for the undertale clone game when it was up and what I remember about it is that it didn't use Riley's name anywhere or mention any of their other "projects" but the thing that gave it away as being Riley behind it is that it said absolutely nothing about the game it was supposedly meant for but it repeatedly mentioned how black/trans/disabled the creator was and how you had a responsibility to give money to them to prove you weren't racist/transphobic/ableist and that was so recognizable to me as riley's specific brand of bullshit that I instantly knew it was them.
"Black people and Asian men are unattractive"
Okay that reeks of someone from a tiny racist town whos never actually met anyone who isn't white irl (I've seen beautiful, gorgeous, hot people of every background/race. Theres 'ugly' people and beautiful people in every race on earth. I cant imagine thinking that--i would have missed out on a lot of great relationships if I only dated white people. Plus... beauty! Is! Subjective! I find people v attractive who my friends think are ugly, and vice versa. That's how human attraction works)
Oh... hes not white and he hates natives. I wish I could say I was surprised, but this is common even among minority groups. I say this as a half cree woman. Its trying to turn suffering into a competition. I've never been called the n word but I sure as hell have been called every native slur in the book. I'm sorry I just. This bothers me so much.
I'm really sorry about what you've been through
I really hate that some types of bigotry are seen as "less bad" than others. It's not a goddamn tier list 🤦♀️ I'm sorry that people have been such jackasses
Damn between this, dashcon, the Miss. officer & Mr. truffles thing and the Brony dating sim I'm starting to think people on Tumblr were really scammable
They are. They'll grasp at anything that's inclusive and not care about anything else. Sadly, most of those people have moved to Twitter now, and are harassing a minor because of their Animal Crossing character being white and having a certain haircut
add all or nothing to that list of scams (it was a planned webcomic that came from a textpost but it stole 4k usd)
2013 Tumblr Scammer: "Hey look the word gullible is written in the ceiling!"
Literally everyone on Tumblr in 2013: " oOOoo where?" * looks up *
2013 Tumblr Scammer: * steals their money and runs *
"It'll work this time! We pinky swear!!"
"Were"
I'm going through my "I can make a best selling video game!" phase right now at 15 😀
If you think you can do it, you should give it a real try. Maybe it'll work and maybe it won't but you can't be successful without a few failures amirite?
I went through that when i was 8 i- 😭😭
@sleepy devil ive made a short webcomic, and the only thing i can say is, do it! The best way to learn is through doing it! I learned so much just by doing it!
Denoosoo good luck on your game!!
@sleepy devil I had that at 14. Plus lazy😂
I feel like any project that's marketing revolves around how inclusive it is is probably trash... like ok cool, I love representation, but shouldn't you care more about the plot/gameplay/art is actually good???
"You included someone like me? :D"
"Yes!"
"Anything good?"
"...No."
Yup, that feeling of being like "oh, hey, that person is like me" lasts for a moment. If you don't actually do anything interesting with it or tell a good story, then that's all it's gonna be: a neat moment in an otherwise underwhelming/naff bit of media.
Marketing things that way can also kill buzz for stuff too. An example I bring up is Birds of Prey, easily one of my favourite comic book flicks of the last decade. It was fun, bombastic, stylish, totally embracing it being a film based on a comic, and Ewan McGregor looked like he was having a blast as Black Mask. I maintain that this film did poorly largely because of how badly it was marketed and a whole load of other Twitter bull that meant that they wouldn't just let the quality of the movie speak for itself.
Exactly, and it feels baity, because when things are marketed only for being diverse, it feels to me like the people making those projects don't actually care about the issues they're talking about and instead make said projects only to be praised for being "woke" (God I hate this word, but it's the only one that can explain the concept well). This is something called performative activism, people exploiting minorities to gain praise.
Pieces of media that use the fact they have lgbt characters, disabled characters, characters of colour etc as a major selling point have the same energy as those food items that say on the packaging that they have no harmful additives.
Like, bro… that’s not a selling point. That’s the bare fucking minimum.
@@Brianna-eo8nu No truer words have ever been spoken!
"and learn how to paint LOTS of girls" (1:26) *damn* she really knows how to appeal to female artists. Anytime I draw men they look like a cross between a roblox character and fanmade shoujo manga lol
The men I end up drawing look fine until the arms... Good God the arms
I've JUST figured out how to draw men (kinda.) The only catch is that literally all of them have shoujo legs 💀
All of mine probably own cat ear hats and "tails"
i gave up and became a furry and weirdcore artist
I'm pretty sure its both male and female artists. People seem to only want to objectify women.
The "God Energy" is the energy of anyone who managed to escape their Tumblr phase unscarred.
That’s me.
My name is Rylee (a different spelling of Riley) and my three brain cells are in a state of absolute chaos trying to comprehend that the tumblr Riley is quite different and I don’t need to stop to look up every time they’re mentioned
Lol mood my name is Scot and sometimes I react to Scotland like that
haha i go by the name riley and i keep thinking the video is referring to me lol
You’re in trouble
Same!
I have been waiting SO LONG for a video on the arkh project, THANK YOU, I still don't even know how to process this video's existence. It's like beholding the true form of a cryptid I've spent a decade hunting in the wild. BLESS. YOU.
Thank you!!! I’m so glad I helped you find your white whale 🐋
Me: "Man, what a long day. I'm tired."
Izzy: *Uploads at almost midnight*
Me: "Sleep can wait."
7:00pm in NZ so that makes sense. It's always a struggle for Aussie/Kiwi creators to figure out the best posting times. Do you save it for Europe? Or America? Or just for where you live?
“Fight characters only you can see” be pretty cool if the people around us could be like horrified when seeing us beat tf out of a trash can
Honestly Riley feels so much like the average twitter user that i'm not even surprised. I feel that Ive found at least 10 Rileys in my 2-3 years that I spend in stantwt
literally me too lmaooo
yeah, it's because a lot of those people were on tumblr back in the day, but many of them left for twitter as time passed, especially after tumblr banned most nsfw content a few years ago. so now tumblr is quieter than it was in the past, and twitter turned into what tumblr had once been. i think it also helped that there arent a ton of younger people joining tumblr now, so a lot of the people who are there are like in their 20s now and have slightly more common sense than they did when they were like 14 (but tbf that bar is really low), while on twitter you have younger people learning to behave like that too, keeping that mess going. there's a bit of a joke on tumblr that, at any given moment, twitter is just having basically the same controversial messy discourse that happened on tumblr like 3 years prior. and it's kinda true.
they're honestly all over and all they do is simp for problematic people, get mad if we say they're in parasocial relationships and then tell you you're toxic for not wanting to hear about idk the beatles or taylor swift every day
"Breaks the fundraiser into sections"
*violent flashbacks to the abandoned animated Phantom of the Opera movie*
God I remember this and I remember getting lectured about how bad it was that I had no faith in this project, especially regarding how the creator was an absolute creep and rancid person.
Moral of the story: Tumblr is a no hope hole
pretty good moral.
Very correct tbh :(
Yup
@CheeseCaker i think we both thought of the same person lmao-
@CheeseCaker Hope Bagel lord, is that you
“Let’s be real, everyone has gone through that phase of thinking they can make a Triple A Game”
Not me pouring my heart and soul into my sloth mmorpg 💀
i have never seen or heard of your sloth mmorpg but i love it
I also want to know about this sloth mmorpg
Omg, I thought I could make a spiritual successor to Kid Icarus Uprising on my own for a bit
Imagine being so woke that you become racist yourself
Woke = overtly Pc.
horse-shoe theory 101
@Pristine Artifact bruh why
@@stardustlover8446 I'm black and had a black guy called me a house n****r for disagreeing on his hate of white people. It happens unfortunately. Sometimes for no reason at all.
@@iBleed_RoyLty4368 people will call you anything racists etc if you had a different opinion with them, sadly thats reality we living on right now :/
Hey, I remember this! I was around for it LMAOOOO
Riley was literally the reason why I had an anti-social justice phase
Riley can bark and scream all they want, but the fact the game isn’t out after eight years, just means it was a scam.
I like how the team’s answer to every question was “yes, but also maybe no. We’ll figure it out once we finish the game.” I get it’s hard to know the full scope of a project in the beginning phases, but some of their responses in the faq were so wishy washy.
of course i'm not sure how much of what Riley's saying is true, but as an autistic person, it's fucking hilarious to me that they never mentioned being autistic until years later when they started getting a lot of backlash. (of course, it is possible that they got diagnosed during that time period, but i feel like it's also possible that they're just trying to deflect criticism by adding more marginalized identities as a shield, whether they actually are of these identities or not.)
Exactly. Autism doesn't cause bigotry.
The fact that Riley claims to have so many marginalized identities as a defense for being racist makes me think they probably weren’t actually everything they claimed to be
Autism does not count as an excuse
right! i knew a guy like this, as soon as he got his self diagnosis he'd use autism as an excuse for everything but if i had symptoms.. oo boy
The whole ass bit about riley further reinforced the notion that we don't deserve this planet
i don’t understand how they would have answered the “non conventional attractive characters” question because as it’s gonna be animated so they were going to be attractive but the creators definitely answered wrong 😬 like they should have said they had a large range of character styles in hopes everyone finds someone they find attractive.
but yeah the fact that they didn’t even have any like dialogue screenshots or some pics of backgrounds and barely any story. i’m surprised they got as much as they did
" black people largely considered non-conventionally attractive..."
my self esteem: ⬇️⬇️
Same girl, same. 😔
Isn't curly hair and tan skin considered attractive tho 👁️👄👁️
Listen I'm in the same skin tone as you, but having to believe people and their thoughts about other races is not what you should be focused on, you're beautiful and strikingly strong in your skin. Our skin is made to battle the sun than other races and how we are build is amazing. Don't let any low life like Riley tell you otherwise who you are, hatred will always be in the world and we can't change how bad the world will get but for damn sure don't let someone who by the way *scamed* people out of their money tell you who you're supposed to be in their eyes. Everyone of you are beautiful no matter your skin, gender and sexuality, you're amazing i don't wanna see *ANYONE OF YOU* fall victim to low live opinions like hers.
@@wasabilover1293 You said tan skin and curly hair those are racially ambiguous traits. Not dark skin and kinky/coiled hair. Which kinda proves the point.
@@daniellehoreau7721 they're way more common in Black people tho-
Can we talk about how the two characters she put in the indiegogo were just Katara and Zuni clones?
I'm a dev who narrowly escaped working for Riley/Sierra in my early days (during Kinou Games era). What a nightmare. Seeing the Arkh project years later gives me shivers. I'm still haunted by it and was wondering if this would be one of Riley/Sierra's projects judging by the title of the video.
I don't know what to say about riley
What the hell even is tumblr it's like twitters and Instagram's neglected child
Nah, as someone who has used all three I'd say it's more like the fucked up evolutionary predecessor to both in terms of the culture. Like you know when you look at the fucked up ancient version of a dolphin? That's tumblr...... and I love it
Didnt most of tumblr migrated to twitter though,
That means twitter is its inherited cousin
Trust me, no hates tumblr more than tumblr users. I would know lol
From what I've seen, Tumblr is more like the shitty uncle of Twitter and Instagram. Most of thier memes and general interaction culture comes from tumblr tbh (since a significant chunk of tumblr's userbase migrated to insta and Twitter after the Big Ban of 2018). The worst of Twitter and Instagram has probably already happened on tumblr but nowhere near as bad because nothing about tumblr encourages hierarchy or parasocial relationships (as in follower count isnt even displayed and most people dont remember usernames so theres no weight behind someone's words if you just see it on your tl)
@@royalscholar7504 do you mean the protowhale or the ichthyosaur? because the later isnt a mammal and actually has nothing to do with dolphins aside from doing the same thing
Babe! Wake up Izzzyzzz uploaded!
I would never understand this mentality of "I'll take what I can get" when it comes to representation, this whole thing had so many red flags that even when at times it was obviously sketchy... people that wanted representation still believed it. I think even more so in early tumblr years where a lot of them were young teenagers or young adults that didn't know better, as to why it was so easy to scam tumblr.
As a mostly gay person, at times I find it cool to be represented in media especially when is subtle, but when someone makes a character that their whole trait is that they are gay... that's pretty bad, not to mention trying to have this token character so people talk about it. It's similar in this case, the game was just the fact that there was black people, gay people, etc but nothing else.
I feel this but can kinda understand why
When I first realized I was non-binary (a few years ago so there wasn't a lot of places to go for representation) I looked for any cartoon characters that I could relate to and understand. I landed on a show that was on the level of family guy who had a non-binary character and I kinda idolized them. Now I realize it was a gag character meant to be the butt of jokes and not to be a relatable one.
So like you said its most likely teens/young adults just looking for anything and not understanding what's considered "good" rep
@@rainbow9299 Long time ago anything that wasn't straight was pretty much a gag in shows, now since things have changed so it has the media but that could either be good or bad depending who you ask.
Personally I see it as a bit more to the bad side, since corporations make characters like that to attract people to their thing, often as a marketing tool and not really caring that much. In the other side you have teens/young adults that draw nothing but black and gay characters that bitch about not being represented or just attack other people for the dumbest of reasons, sometimes changing a white character to black to "improve it".
Rambling aside, is incredibly rare to have some sort of representation done correctly without having so much pandering or done without monetary intentions.
@@rainbow9299 You might like she-ra and the princesses of power :>
@@dundandon i wonder why people who are excluded are upset about being excluded...
I think people who are like that are just self conscious and have a hard time relating to people who aren't like them on a superficial level. Like I fucking hate asexual representation and don't want it cause i'm asexual myself. It's always garbage trash and I'd rather just have a character I can relate to personality wise than the bare minimum of being a biological trait you can't control, especially the one no one even understands what it means in our year of goddamn 2020.
Riley is one of those things where, because they were from that period in my life where I was learning about social justice related things, but consequently became really, *really* panicked over being a good ally, upon encountering shitstorms like her I would just try to grit my teeth and smile, and tell myself, "Nothing is wrong. They're not psychotic and disturbed and conspicuously vague about what they do with money. You're just being oversensitive, you just don't *get it* , stop questioning things."
And now I can only look back and think, "Yeah, no...shit was always fucked up."
oh this is such a fucking mood 😅
"We're not living on a golden age of diverse media"
*Hades being in every GOTY list* : Am I a Joke to you?
We might not be there yet, but in 2012 it'd be impossible to believe things like Hades, Celeste, She-ra or even Call of Duty adding NB identities to a AAA videogame would happen.
Felt like COD did it to blatantly disguise the Red Scare propaganda that was Cold War, also to veer away from the controversy featuring Yuri Bezmenov would bring.
Saving my insomniac night, here we go
Riley is uncle Ruckus.
I'm black, but I found it so funny that I INSTANTLY knew she was black just based off of her little rant about black men (a common complaint in the black community)
She genuinely just needs to get arrested at this point.
I have known 2 black women who were incredibly racist against black men, they said shit I'm sure even white supremacist wouldn't say
And they were both very leftist "woke" women
I also feel one kinda fetishized me, I'm white passing and she focused a lot on my features specifically
It was a weird experience
I mean seriously what is up with that, can you explain ?
nah, apparently ain't even black. just brown asian.
Oh my god uncle ruckus nahhh💀💀💀💀
apparently she was lying about her race and is actually desi
as chaotic as tiktok is i don’t think it’ll ever come close to tumblr’s level of pure insanity
TikTok seems more of a vine/deviantart fusion.
Not really. They're causing extinction of endangered species because they want 'exotic' pets. They also have a lot of political arguments there. And some tiktok stars drama here and there. There's also a rise or the "I'm not like the other girls" girls there as well. It's a mess.
They also seem to be discovering the internet for the first time ever because they're making things that were trendy back in 2000s or 2010s trendy again for some reason and claim to just discovered now.
And now it's twitter who's the crazy one
TikTok is trying to cancel people everyday. Not to levels of Twitter but still, the amount of visceral hate and racism on TikTok is pretty horrific.
Very fitting for one of the pledges be called "Silver-tongued Love"... isn't a silver-tongue usually used to describe convincing/persuasive but often deceiving or otherwise untrustworthy characters? At least I have never heard it used as a fully positive trait-
i hate how starved we minorities are for representation that we’ll rush to support a project like this, no matter how shady
The Riley section almost had my body feeling like it was going mach 10 in my chair, what an actual wretch of a person.
I love how you upload 2 in the morning, it aways makes me feel self conscious for being awake that lake
Lake
Sounds like a game show segment. AAAAAWAKE! THAT! LAAAKE!
Me: has good idea for book and comic
Depression: the best I can do is no motivation
You have stars plastered all over your face and provide interesting, factual, well researched and recent content, how can I not subscribe?
I love how Izzzyzz makeup ranges from absolutely outstanding paintings on her face to plastering stickers all over. Not that it’s bad mind you 😉
Omg ... I followed this project and Riley back in 2012 (I followed Riley for years before that too) and I was so impressionable and mentally vulnerable at the time (mid-teens to early 20s with a bunch of then-undiagnosed mental illnesses) that for some reason I fell for everything they said and become totally brainwashed. I don't remember all the stuff they said about other Black people but mostly about white and Asian people (I'm white and Asian) and it led me to hate myself and genuinely hate other white and Asian people which looking back I'm so disgusted with myself and embarrassed at some of the things I said on my own now-deleted tumblr blog that I'm honestly haunted with it every day that someone will find screenshots and still think I'm that horrible person. I was hooked in with them supposedly standing for minorities and being strongly against racism, and I'm still strongly against racism but now I see it wasn't really about racism for them and just their ego and I feel terrible that I replicated some of their behavior because that's what I thought anti-racism was. Also I likely donated to the project back then (when I barely had any money of my own) because of Riley's guilt-tripping. Sorry for the long comment but this brought up a lot of traumatic memories for me haha.
@@shiloha5646 Thank you so much, I've come to accept that I can't change what I've said or done in the past but just try to be the best person I can be now :) Part of me hopes that somehow Riley has also seen the error of their ways and can grow from this as well.
you guys weren't the only ones who fell for riley's bullshit. i believed a lot of the shit they said too. i agree that it felt like getting brainwashed. i'm sorry you guys went through that. :(
Who would’ve guessed this would come from Tumblr?!
All of us...
this is why whenever i hear about an indie game concept that im interested in, i dont like.. put any money into it or anything until its actually out and have some reviews. also a worringly high amount of shit on tumblr that gets popular is by really gross, abusive, and/or discriminatory people so its just a thing at this point :--(
i fell asleep with this channel's videos playing and opened my eyes exactly at 14:07 i was actually about to piss my pants when izzzy stared at me through the screen for a full 8 seconds without saying anything 😭
>Woke
>Actually Racist
oh, the Horseshoe Fallacy!
I just wanna say I’m obsessed with the silver star sticker look. Giving me nostalgia to when I was 5 and stickers were my height of fashion
I'm in a fantasy game, So I just took a transformation potion. Def not just trans.
Someone is finally making a video about this... i was half convinced i had dreamed it....
I wish i had...
Some aditional memories:
I dont know if it was because of who i was following/our ages at the time, but people were HYPE for this thing. People really did believe it had a very high chance of being made, despite the (in retrospect) dismal state of the kickstarter.
Im my memories i saw it being pitched as more of a visual novel with rpg elements, which i think had justified having only a few pieces of character art etc for a lot of people.
Also not mentioned was the drama where it turned out that a dress one of the characters was wearing was a stolen design from an actual designer. Odly enough i remember this as a turning point in the general perception of the game.
In modern times we are comarativly spoiled for representation, even though it still isnt perfect. At the time a lot of people were dreaming of better representation, and trying to work towards making it themselves. Which is why i think it seemed to make sense for something like this to be made, and why a lot of people didnt really question what was, in retrospect, a really shaky kickstarter campaign...
@@eidoleon i recall the visual novel angle being mentioned as well, which was (i believe) also in their post about plans to implement farming systems. they were really promising everything under the sun in the most vague and contradicting of ways and yet questioning the feasibility was such a sin
I just realized this, but the FAQ was written with every ounce of energy as the people that write fanfiction and pair two men together but make one of them a woman so they don't have to write a gay couple.
ooh, i was at ground zero for this one! it seemed like a scam from day one, but i wasn't interested until receipts of Riley being disgusting got shared.
Why does Tumblr have so many L’s on its ledger??!
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Tumblr is just a fever dream at this point
a really bad fever dream.
Yeah
Tumblr was a mistake.
Social media was a mistake.
Pretty much lol
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THis , I remember watching this all go down oh my god
>are there any non-conventionally attractive folks?
>''well we got masc asian dudes, black folks, and trans girls''
how did anyone not question this?
Tumblr back then was basically what Twitter is now: so woke that they were unironically deeply racist 💀
@@anerrorhasoccurred8727 this is explicityl because hey all migrated-or atleast these folks- from tumblr to twitter thanks to the rule change, that or they just naturally did it. if you wanna know why twitter is so ass, this is why
I have autism as well and it feels like thier faking it and just using it as a defense. Most likely to pull the "You're a ablest card" instead of facing the consequences of thier actions.
Man, this takes me back. I'm surprised more people don't bring up the arhk project when talking about tumblr drama
EDIT: Thinking back, I think this project had an official comic with some... problematic elements such as one character being the slave of another, but tbh my memory is fuzzy
Okay so I'm not the only one who saw a bit of that, yeah, it was very much the author doing a kind of D/S dynamic and basically just wanting to do an anime romance with no indication of any larger conflict that might power an RPG.
I should be asleep because I have to take finals tomorrow but who needs sleep when I'm finally early?
Eyyy bad choices on finals night club
Imagine having your dream game be “Shower With Your Dad Simulator”
Gawd can’t believe I knew them back when all they were doing was saying HaruMichi Sailor Moon is bad LGBT rep bc …. somethingsomething “my OCs are better”
Y’know it’s bad when a few times throughout the video I was like “…not even YandereDev did shit like that!” and immediately felt dirty but I wasn’t wrong
Everyone: How many times are we going to have to teach you this lesson old man?
Tumblr: Man I love using supportive people.