I remember back in the fourth grade the warrior cats girls would hiss at people and us boys were like "you're so weird" then proceed to use pinecones as currency in our pretend drug trade
my dad used to read me these books when i was 10-11. i loved them. he cried when bluestar died and i pretended to be asleep because i didn't know what to do.
I swore I distinctly remember one of Fireheart’s motives for leaving was to avoid being neutered. Like an older cat told him about how a cat would get taken to the vet and come back with drastic personality changes. Which happens when we neuter a cat.
I'm sorry if you already know this by now, or just don't care anymore, but you'd be absolutely right! It's from Chapter 2 of Into the Wild: "“I can tell that you are still a tom,” Bluestar added, “despite the Twoleg stench that clings to your fur.” “What do you mean-still a tom?” “You haven’t yet been taken by the Twolegs to see the Cutter,” meowed Bluestar gravely. “You would be very different then. Not quite so keen to fight a Clan cat, I suspect!” Rusty was confused. He suddenly thought of Henry, who had become fat and lazy since his visit to the vet. Was that what Bluestar meant by the Cutter?"
Yeah that’s an actual thing. He was told he was gonna get taken to the Cutter, or the vet, and Bluestar literally told him “I see you’re still a tom.” Meaning basically he still had his balls. Yknow if he went to the Cutter first we wouldn’t have had to deal with Ballgate..
I work in a high school and have had a few disappointed students who came to try to find the books in our library. I feel guilty having to tell them that we just can't afford to spend money on middle school level books because we need to focus on "age appropriate" reading with our small budget. :( I personally think anything that gets a kid to read is good to have, but I just can't justify getting the Warrior Cats books when there are so many good YA options and only enough money to get around 50 books a year.
as a fan whos been reading all the books from 1st grade to present day this is like being a guest speaker veteran watching a teacher explain a war edit: shit thats a lot of like wtf
@@hannahhannah7002 well ok heres the thing, the broken code starts great but so far (i havent started the latest book) its fizzling out and is becoming predictable. its dealing with old plot points from arc 2 but the main characters are like... boring. except shadowsight i love that boy. bristlefrost is also pretty good when shes not with rootspring, and rootspring could be better if he just stopped and thought about anything other than bris. keep in mind these books are a way for me to turn my brain off and relax so ive most definitely forgotten boring bits that didnt stand out to my mush of a brain. i would recommend the first two books of the broken code its good
I thought I was part of the warrior cat fandom for a few weeks as a teen, only to discover that I actually never read Warrior Cat, I read the way more obscure "Cat School" by Korean Author Jin-kyung Kim ! Very good books he wrote to console his daughters after the death of their cat. Basically, when cats reach 15 yo, they leave their family and go to a cat school to learn magic, I re-read them as an adult, and I stand by theses books being very good. So if you like Warrior cats, you'll like theses as well :)
Yo!! I read Cat School in French as a kid! I was always curious to find if it was available in English, and if there were others out there who had read the books! (Haven't had any luck with online discussions of it till now). :)
@@embyrfyres YES ! I looked it up and they're very hard to find in english, I'm french as well ! Only french and Korean kids have an easy access to the books, and I've never met anyone else who had read them
I feel like fandom culture is doing this 360 of people being into it, then finding it cringey, and finally people realizing that it was always about creativity and community and that’s great
You only stopped liking the things once you cared what other people thought, and you were only able to start liking them again once you matured past caring what they thought.
For everyone watching and wondering about if the cats in Warriors had balls or not... In the first book, Firestar talks heavily in the beginning about the neighboring cat who became slow and boring after going to the vet to get a "surgery" that was highly implied to be getting spayed. It was one of his main reasons for leaving his home lmfao
its so funny to me that bluestar meets rusty and is just like “oh you still have balls? yeah sure come in” like she literally says ‘you are still a tom’ LMAO
That was actually one of my big issues with the books. My grandpa was a veterinarian, and spaying and neutering cats is one of the ways to prevent overpopulation and unwanted kitten deaths. The way that they acted like it was a bad thing always rubbed me the wrong way, even in middle school
@@skypaver989 Well, the books are written in the perspective of wild cats with strong opinions, strenght in numbers is very important to them. These cats also often mocked dogs but the Erin Hunters have written a series about dogs, Survivors, so it's obvious they're not against dogs, it's just the opinion of these cats. It's very likely the Erin Hunters are not against spaying and castrating cats either.
Around the time I was reading Warrior Cats an orange kitten showed up in my backyard and soon became my beloved first pet. I thought running around with a toy mouse was the equivalent of training him to hunt and fight. When he caught his first mouse I swore up and down he was actually Firestar. You could not convince me otherwise. I had an attachment to Firestar because of Whiskee and basically saw them one in the same. He lived to be 14. I miss that fat orange man.
Aww this was really sweet to read! This video is the first I've ever heard of this series, but despite some toxicity it seems to have really inspired some kids to use their imagination and just be kids. Sorry for your loss, I'm gonna go hug my Finnegan now
no matter how many people tell me i used to be a "cringy" warrior cats girl, i don't really care. pretending to be Jayfeather or Bluestar and running around making bedding out of pine leaves and pretending the bark and moss was herbs were some of the best times of my life. I still read it to this day and no matter how long it becomes, i'll keep up with it just to keep my inner child happy.
seriously, i didn’t get into the fandom early enough in life to be a warrior cats roleplayer at recess, but my GOSH i would have! if only i’d gotten into the fandom around five years earlier…
Well when I was a kid (I don’t remember how old I was but I think around the ages of 13-15) I remember when Google Plus was a thing I remember role playing in fan made role playing communities (this was before games like Warrior Cats Ultimate Edition or WCUE for short was a thing on Roblox) and it was a fun side thing to do. Although G+ is gone now (it sadly shut down back in 2018 I think) but I remember the memories
@@TheSkittlesAddict yeah, it just seems so much more fun to be a little kid playing with your friends on a playground and claiming the swingset sunningrocks as your territory than just writing * i place my paw on the rocks and shout, “this territory belongs to riverclan once more!” * such a nostalgic feeling i missed out on because i didn’t read the books until 7th grade
Yep, Warriors was a crucial part of some of our childhood's and I'm rlly glad I got into it. Re-reading the books now that I'm 17 and forgot stuff from them.
As someone who read these books (out of order) in elementary school without ever learning these books had a fandom, this video feels like going to a family reunion for the first time and all of your cousins are the most bizarre people imaginable
I always get a bit nervous when I go to look at anything about warrior cats. It's a series I hold near and dear to my heart, and while I know there are a lot of bad things about it, that doesn't mean I'm ever okay with being called cringy or stupid for liking them. My childhood was a vicious cycle of getting bullied for liking things and delving further into them to escape being bullied about them. I went into this video a bit afraid that you'd just be bashing us and I'm pleasantly surprised by this video and the in depth nature of it. So thank you, and I'll be sure to check out some of your other stuff!
Idk why your scared of being cringe, everyone is into something cringe. Cringe culture itself is bad but if your cringe doesn't involve harming other people or doing something creepy it's fine. Like I think playing Fortnite is cringe but I understand and think it's fine. You should not think it's cringe to be into something (unless you are acting like a child about it then it's a bit weird ig)
I once made the mistake of having a party where everyone got to do a drunken lecture on the topic of their choice, and one person launch into a forty-minute analysis of the exact naming conventions of the Warrior Cats characters, and because I know too many historians and anthropologists it kickstarted a two-hour argument over how the name system should work that nearly devolved into an actual fistfight at one point. Everyone in the room was in their 20s or 30s.
@@loveyx6731 I was very drunk at the time, but from what I remember the real sticking point was that there was a special name (Moon Pull or something) that a cat could only get if they performed a specific and extremely rare feat that I have entirely forgotten. During the questions phase someone asked if the name was a name or a title, and things degenerated into close to twenty people yelling that if it was a name if they still had their original name but they were to be unused as in military rank or if the title was the name as in The [Name] and they'd revert to the last name if they proved unworthy or fradulent in the earning, or if it was a name and if it replaced their current name or was added to their names and if you would be accurate but impolite to call them by their old name or simply wrong. The whole thing was a complete mess even though at least four people there had formal training in onomastics, because they were doctoral students in history or anthropology in a room with free alcohol.
@@UnreasonableOpinions as a past warrior cat fan: its neither a name OR a title, theyre cats with their own society (even though theyre extremely personified) and religion, most of the things they do dont make sense because its not supposed to be directly related to any human-like creation, hell they dont even call people humans they call them two-legs haha
i have been waiting for another former weird cat/wolf girl to make a deep dive on the state of the internet in 2012, there seems to be a weird generation of animal girls who are now grown up and looking back it was such a zeitgeist of 'you had to be there' and preteen edge that will never be recreated for me again. shout out to my former weird wolf girls out there, love ya.
@@dartthenightlight3840 It's basically like a really long jacket (almost floor length) shady people wear in the movies. The cool ones will have straps and you can pop the collar
Definitely. She should cover all the dramas of the most popular roleplays as well as all the weird shit in public roleplays 😂 From cats giving birth in the middle of camp to people one-shotting their leader because of mild inconveniences 🤣
I think it's better to hold off on the Homestuck video for now-I love Sarah Z's work and I think she meant well, but I feel like she rushed that one through, and it's unfortunate that a lot of the dark side of the anti-Homestuck 2 backlash went undiscussed. I'm just waiting for a Guardians of Ga'Hoole videoessay. That was such a weird trip.
Probably no-one will see this particular comment, but just in case someone finds it interesting there was a fairly robust community of Warrior Cats roleplayers in World of Warcraft early on and likely still today. They would play as Druids which have access to a cat form very early on, and they would form guilds to represent their clans.
I hung out with a group of girls back in 4th grade and they indoctrinated me into their recess Warrior Cat roleplay group even though I had never touched a Warrior Cat book.
it gets weird when you realize deadpool could be a warrior name plus I remember foxpaw so excited and wanted to be called foxchaser or something like that poor baby
In order to solve the Dovewing eye color problem once and for all, someone should sacrifice their sanity to count through all the books how many times each eye color is mentioned.
That actually seems fairly easy nowadays! There are sites with the entire books uploaded, so you could realistically ctrl F and look for the words eyes and Dovewing, and quickly figure out the amount
i was thinking about doing that since i started rereading the series lately, so this comment motivated me to make this attempt. it’ll probably take me a while but i’ll give it a shot lol
I just sort of never noticed it changed😂 I was like "oh her eyes are green huh ok" and then like 10 pages later id be like. "Oh her eyes are blue? Aight" 😂
@you aren’t weeb for watching two episodes of mha and those books are on my 25 yr old bookshelf too?? Like y’all I’ve been reading these books since 2003. THATS what I’m getting at. Most of the content creators for warriors are 20-28 years old. 🤷♀️ y’all thinking about this too much
Fun fact: Spiked dog collars were invented as basically armor to protect sheep dogs from wolf attacks. When wolves fight for real they usually go for the neck, with spiked collars they got a mouth full of spikes and hard leather/chain.
Spiked Collars are basically armour. Nice. Reminds me of those Conquistador dogs, but then I remember the atrocities they used those doggos for and I get sad. I will not recount those atrocities here, so if you're curious Google it at your own risk.
I was a major Warrior Cats kid and I've come back to reading the books as an adult and honestly it's even MORE fun now because of how wacky and insane the community and books really are. I'm often just left staring at a page in the book and going 'I'm sorry WHAT'S the target demographic?' or 'what the hell does that even MEAN?' and it's honestly really entertaining.
ik i just reread the first series after like 13 years and i was reading when tigerstar basically had stonefur’s(?bluestar’s son) throat ripped out in front of the apprentices and i was like……. is this not for 11 year olds 😭😭
@@ThePcmgirlI remember reading the books when I was 8. Idk, honestly that’s probably as graphic as it gets from what I remember but I think an 11 year old can handle that amount of gore.
This video gave me violent flashbacks about my christian afterschool club that tried to ban our warrior cats roleplays because we were "acting ungodly" or something
@@valerius8985 I kinda hate these generalizations because first off: kids should be able to be kids, imaginative and creative without being bullied for it. Secondly because I was super into wolves and warrior cats and I never acted like how everyone stereotypes. In a way it creates sour memories around it and makes it feel like I'm unable to express my past interests and hobbies.
@@Delihlah it was a joke. I was both a horse kid and a warriors kid and still read the books to this day. Kids are free to be kids man it's just funny to look back on the weird shit we did and laugh
Someone help I cannot get out of this fandom Am I a 28-year old married lady with a full-time job and a house? Yes Have I been working on a warriors fan-comic for six years now? Also yes
Hey, at least you’re making something! I’m only slightly older and all I’m doing is still reading the books lmfao. (No but for real your comic sounds awesome)
Why do you need help? It sounds like you're having fun. Now if you quit your job, get divorced, and are forced to file bankruptcy because you're obsessively drawing a comic and can't control yourself then you might want to have a chat with a professional. Who cares if you're into something? I mean, it's not like your fandom is crack or heroine.
I am a youth librarian who has never read Warrior Cats, and this deep dive has made me so much more knowledgeable about the series when kids ask about it.
I work at a library, and I put away at least one of these books a day. Like that’s not an over-exaggeration. They’re still incredibly popular, but I knew almost nothing about the books themselves or that there was even a fandom before this video.
Reminds me of when I read them in middle school, it was always so hard to get the next book in the series because there were like three other people reading them at the same time as me lol
Dovewing's natural eye color is green, but her eyes appeared blue while she had her powers because of her connection to the ancient cat Dove's Wing (who had blue eyes), changing to green when she lost her powers after the prophecy was fulfilled. Her eyes appeared golden during the drought because they were reflecting the harsh sunlight.
Honestly warriors has remained probably the least problematic fandom ive ever been in. were just a bunch of people who love these funky little forest cats.
Sameeeee, it also helped me connect with a bunch of people and get into role playing (acting) and creative things like drawing and writing and story telling.
Chip knows warrior cats now I could comment on those vids about the comparisons from your vids and warriors btw I love your vids they were how I started to do photoshop
It feels childish when you talk about being a fan of a cat book, but the stories and backstories, the characters and the universe are genuinely so well written and interesting
Yeah, the books are soo terrible, yet like clockwork, they manage to always be a financial success. After nearly 20 years, there's a reason the series is still around.
//spoilers kinda?? honestly the books even the SE are very badly written, literally i can say Bramblestars situation is just beacuse erins doesn't know how to write him and his relationship with Squirrelflight
About poor writing, I think it's the word choice. Because, Russian editions of Warrior Cars are fucking masterpieces, the word choice is fantastic. They put a lot of work and visible love into translating and adapting. For example, instead of directly translating "deputy" into a modern russian word "zamestitel'" which is associated with corporate powers, they named deputies "glashatai", which is an old Russian word, roughly translating to "herald", or exchanging "medicine cat" for "tselitel" - an uncommon word describing a magical healer in tribes. And it's just the names alone, i can't judge the plot, because i didn't read the original, but I think Russian translators putting such an effort in just translating names alone to create mystery and magic, could technically rewrite it more coherently. And they probably did, because sentence structure of Russian and English languages is noticeably different.
I feel like if Warriors was real, someone would probably get curious about loud yowling coming from the woods, and would bring a flashlight, only to see herds upon herds of cats, just scratching the living shit out of each other.
@@TheAkwarium In the first series "The cutter" was used (from my memory) to mean being taken to the vet to be spayed/neutered. I cannot recall a single instance in the first arc that "the cutter" was used to mean vet in general, just in the second arc and beyond. Anyway. "The cutter" and neuters were mentioned a lot in the first book in particular. I think it's Bluestar that mentions Rusty is still a tom and hasn't been to the cutter yet. When explained what a cutter is, Rusty thinks of Henry, one of his neighbors who became lazy and fat after visiting the cutter. Rusty is glad that he is still a tom, and someone remarks that he is of the age where twolegs bring cats to the cutter, so they were sure he'd not be one for long. Later during a hunting assignment (not sure what book), Firepaw attacks Smudge, who is now neutered. He remarks he smells different is fat/plump and once again is thankful he was never brought to the cutter. he lets Smudge go and gets in trouble because Tigerclaw saw him let Smudge go. Outside of the first few books I can't recall any cat being specifically mentioned they were neutered like this. But I stopped reading at omen of the stars.
Back in the day this series literally turned a bully of mine into a friend due to discussing our cat OCs. A different friend also drew a picture of my cat who had just passed away as a member of StarClan to watch over me.
Hey, I'm the person who drew the cat balls, I had no idea it became into any kind of drama actually! I don't think anyone ever confronted me about it personally, called me names or accused of anything so I was clueless about any of this, which is actually kinda funny now! :D So I was surprised to hear my unlisted animation was included in the drama section, as to me it seems there was no drama, it was private or at least I was never pulled in it anyhow, other than the comment section of my video. Those were some times for sure! I now regret doing it and wouldn't do again, because yeah it is weird and totally unnecessary, and it was supposed to be a funny joke as during that time there were jokes about those kind of things and a few other people drawing cat balls for kicks. I was kinda hoping people would forget about it as it is embarrassing! :D I am very impressed the lengths this dive went into, the amount of work behind this all is insane!
just saw this video two years after release. cute video, so many memories, so many friends featured! hope you had fun looking into our little niche of the internet.
My extreme obsession with warrior cats was so formative as a kid that its so strange to hear someone else talk about it. I was one of only two kids in my entire large public school that were into them so I forget that it was a large international franchise. Warrior cats was geninley like a religion
Being the only non warrior cats fan in a friend group of 10 warrior cats fan was very stressful. No matter how I role played my given character it was always wrong lol. They always tired to catch me up by explaining the plots for me to only end up confused.
@@solarmoth4628 Yeah warriors has very specific rules and traditions and role-players often get mad when you don't know every one of them lol. Like there are even certain name rules that aren't really official (like not using "Moon-", "-moon" or Star-" in names) but they pretend it's official
The best thing I've ever done in a fandom was making a 72 slide medicine cat guide documenting almost all poisons, medicines, and ailments. I still think that is a fucking masterpiece and I made that when I was like twelve Edit: You can find the link in the comments + thank you to everyone who gave their kind words about the project
@@qweeesh Hell, for an unfinished presentation this is still pretty expansive. You even quote when and where the herbs are found, which shows how much effort went into researching it. Thank you for the link!
I read the entire first and second arc (along with a few super editions) aloud to my little brothers, and tried to give every cat a unique voice - and boy did that get hard, especially in the later books when there were multiple POVs. It was super fun though and definitely a fond memory.
I have a list of other canonically possible warrior names: - Littlefoot - Bluetooth - Morningwood - Ravenclaw - Deadpool - Snakeheart (Similar to “Foxheart”, as both are an insult. But, the difference here is that is hasn’t been used in canon yet)
my memories of being a ~9 y/o warrior cats fan: - roleplaying on Animal Jam - lots of fan animations w/ edgy music (that one scourge video w/ the USSR-tetris song?) - lots of deviant art - owl city obsession(?) - good online friends - never actually fully read the books lmao
Yess I’m surprised there weren’t more calls to the AJ kids - like the Roblox kids, it was a WHOLE thing. I specifically remember these children using SCIENTIFIC biological terms to describe their edgy cat ocs. For example, my young fourth grade self had no idea what a “panthera onca” was. Or kids literally competing in their “medical knowledge” to be a medicine cat. I literally owned a journal and MEMORIZED herbs and their uses. AJ warrior cats were hardcore 🖐😭😭
@@Hannah-pp4cc I had one of the Warrior Cats guidebooks and I studied that shit night and day to memorize the herbs lmao. I didn't play on AJ because I didn't have internet growing up, but I did play with irl friends and would collect random plants around the playground/yard and pretend they were herbs lmfao. I wish I was half as dedicated to my college major now as I was to larping as the RiverClan medicine cat in fourth grade 😂
I knew a girl in elementary who'd always read those books, she'd draw cats and wolves all the time and I remember being so jealous of her art too. I tried drawing one of her warrior cats ocs for her, she awkwardly smiled at the deformed cat and said thank you. I guess its the thought that counts
during hurricane sandy when my power was out for a week i had nothing better to do than to create an entire fanclan. i had a cat drawing base that i traced and colored in for every individual cat. i made like 30 OCs and they all had names and backstories and i mapped out all their familial and romantic connections. eventually a few years later i migrated it to a google spreadsheet and i used a dolldivine warrior cat oc maker to make digital images of all the cats. i never even did anything with it i just did it for funsies.
omg I made four entire clans with over 100 ocs each with their own stories, and then I wrote 12 sketchbooks full of the story until I got bored of it but dang I just kept going...
I once won a pet fish at a carnival and- going through my warrior cats phase- I named her Spottedleaf. (I was 9 at this time btw) Pretty soon after that I got to the part of the series where Spottedleaf dies, and my poor fish died the very next day. For YEARS I was convinced that if you name your pet after a fictional character, and then that character dies, then your pet is doomed to die as well. Thank you Erin Hunter(s) for that I guess.
When I was around 12 I discovered the Warrior Cats books and I was OBSESSED with them for serveral years. I had my own little RPG forum website where I created my own Clans, characters and stories. It was my form of escapism. I was thinking about my characters 24/7; as soon as I got home from school I went online and started roleplaying. Even after I stopped reading the books I continued to write my own Warrior Cats stories. Anyway, this whole fandom shaped so much of my personality and I started writing stories and poetry because of it. I´m kinda thankful that my teen years were shaped by Warrior Cats.
"Why did the works of Erin Hunter resonate so heavily with tweens around the globe to the point where they were literally at school, on the playground, roleplaying as feral cats?" ...didn't have to call me out like that
me and my cousin would literally make up a whole story line while crawling on our hands a knees pretending to be our cat OC's... dont know why this shit resonated so hard but it fuckin did
When I was young all I cared about were the cats, but when you get older you realize the truth about religious issues, politics, borders with owned land, and fights between nations were very true and real.
As someone who participated in the warrior cats fandom for years, it is insane how much talent these people have. Kids are creating god tier animations with no formal training and shitty software. I think being a warrior cats fan gives you some sort of super powers, because I used to draw and animate using a laptop mousepad and my finger and I could never do that now
Seriously! Like i could never draw cats in my life, then I joined the WC fandom and suddenly i was pumping out fanart like i was being paid (i very much am not).
omg same!! I created some impressive digital fanart about 13 years ago I don't think I could replicate today. I honestly can't even remember how I did it.
probably no one will see it, but I just feel the need to share it warrior cat's polish edition has different covers from the original series and they are so gorgeous and I love them and I just think everyone in the fandom should know about their existence
Okay, my memory of the books is super foggy, but I had to chime in here. I'm almost positive it was the books that were shipping Jayfeather with his stick. I'm like, 80% sure it was a real canon thing.
I was super into the books but wasn't really allowed on the internet that much so all this fandom news is new to me. I am just glad someone else read the series.
I used to always be like "i'm just a normal kid" but I could name every Warrior Cats book in timeline order, summarize every one, and had every cat memorized and laid out in a chart
You did a good job. Honestly I apologize for my initial assumption that this was going to be a negative force before it came out. (We've got a new mess to sort through basically once a week.) The Cardi B thing was overblown-- there wasn't actually much fighting, beyond one or two posts like "why are there so many cats in the #wotw tag?" We just decided to move hashtags when, for a couple weeks, the WOTW posts were unfindable in a sea of music-related posts. Honestly, we could have reverted after the hype was over, but it's less likely to happen again with #wcotw.
I remember I used to draw art of all the cats in primary school, and I also used to draw the fight scenes from the books, but my parents were very concerned about me drawing cats fighting and sent me to therapy. I specifically remember my parents taking to my teachers about how "She's gotten better about not drawing cats killing each other" which I think is pretty funny
@@bubblelovessans I think it's something about kids drawing violent images in general being associated with something being wrong/an expression of feelings etc, but it isn't 100 % a given just because of a kid is drawing 'edgy' art there is smt wrong. Also therapy isn't a bad thing and anyone regardless can go to therapy, for example a person may go to therapy because they don't know how to handle stress, from everyday life very well. Another example would be someone going because they can't understand or express their feelings well. (Many reasons in general but I brought two examples, that's a RUclips comment after all lol)
@@bubblelovessans I'm going to guess they didn't know about warrior cats, and so to them it looked like their kid had randomly become obsessed with cats ripping each other to shreds. I remember some WC fights getting pretty bloody, so...
As someone who read 10 warrior cats books but didn't get involved in the fandom because I didn't speak English yet, I can say that this video was a whole ass experience
watching this video im kinda glad I never got consumed in the fandom I loved the books so much but compared to their enjoyment, my interest is like saying "I just think they're neat"
Those who are not aware, check Tad Williams' debut novel, Tailchaser's Song. Superficially quite similar to WC, but it's more high fantasy and a hero's journey kind of story. Also 17 years older. No rabbit holes there because there's no sequels. He just wrote 1 cat book and moved to other fantasy after that. I absolutely love it.
This is so, so strange from the perspective of someone who was utterly obsessed with this series in middle school but had 0 online presence and no friends who also liked it and therefore was isolated in my enjoyment of the series.
Me too! I would look up amv’s and fanart and draw my own fanart but never got into the fandom and never had anyone else I know into it. I had a cousin who liked them but he didn’t talk about them because we were kids and he was embarrassed because it was a “girls book” when that doesn’t matter at all lol (surprise, I’m now a boy anyways lol) so I knew many people read it, I just didn’t realize how big the fandom was and some of the wild shit that happened lol
Same! I was never allowed on the internet until I was 13-14 and had the premonition that I was alone in liking the books because *nobody* at my school read them.
I went to a Waldorf school (aka a weird subset of private school that tried to peer pressure parents into make sure children didn't spend time on computers, TVs, video games, etc during weekdays and you got in trouble if you talked about media stemming from electronics too much in front of a teacher) Warrior cats was extremely popular in my grade to a point where everyone expect three read it (I was one of the three, I pretended to too cool for it but really I wad dyslexic) so this video is also super weird to discover. I remember roleplaying warriors cats was super big during recess and during playdates to the point where even if you didn't read the series you had to understand to a basic level how a clan functioned in order to hang out with people during recess. It was wildd
Hey there! I'm the one who created the Roblox Warrior Cats game from a long time ago that you showed at 32:03 I was like twelve when I made it lmao, but now I'm working on Warrior Cats: Ultimate Edition, the one at 33:11, it's going to release soon and we're slowly working on it! Thank you for making this giant video on the fandom, it's nice to look back at everything that happened.
correction: neutering is actually discussed in the books, albeit briefly. when firestar was still rusty his neighbor cat/friend went to the vet for "cutting" and came back much lazier and docile. it's implied that this was going to happen to rusty and it's one of the reasons he left his home to become firepaw.
@@ash_rock I think its cuz the books are subtly but still anti neuter cuz there cats and (what cats what's to be fixed? None I've met.) they would much rather bang their hearts out. But irl were so pro fixing when it comes to cats because massive feral cat overpopulation issues cuz native wildlife to go extinct. (Witch fun fact isn't working so some countries like australia have started hunting for sport. But not like im proud "i killed a cat" but more like "im proud I killed a vermit we naturally genetically modified to efficiently kill small pest and let get Farrell enough to be like more like coyotes (with how the act with us not in general) that's making naturally occuring samll animals extinct)
I read these in my native tongue, German, throughout first until fifth grade I think. So I never noticed the bad writing, and I remember my physical hardcover books having lists of clans and their members at the start of every book - which meant some order to look back to, some spoilers too. The covers weren't paintings in Photoshop, but rather RL photos of cats with some background that partly spoiled the plot of each book. I loved that as a kid, whereas now it sometimes looks like covers of standard romance/erotica novels 😂
I also read the in German ages ago (The first three arcs, I think) and I never really noticed the inconcistencies. Since the German publisher is known for educational books and schoolbooks and also tries to keep its novels up to a certain "you could read this in school" standard, I guess, the editors were doing some extra hours, fixing this stuff.
I also read it in German, and I am currently rereading it(in English). The Editors definitively worked extra hours. 'Heiler' just sounds ten times better that 'medicine cat' (Like, they could have used healer or some new Word) I think it are all those little Things, that make it much more enjoyable.
when i was like 10 i met erin hunter at a barnes and noble event thingy and asked her if the inconsistencies were on purpose sometimes like easter eggs and she straight up SNAPPED AT ME i wanted to cry
@@PissyLissy it was victoria! meanwhile i was part of kate cary’s warriors blog and she was always super sweet, she even put in effort to make sure my shitty fanfic was up when the site was glitching on me. so its not all of them that give attitude to literal children
Warrior Cats is a fandom which has its problems in some situations... But damn would I be lying if I say that I haven't seen and haven't met amazing and talented artists who are in the fandom Like holy crap
Honestly the Warriors fandom, despite having a few bad eggs and dramas, is relatively non-toxic compared to other fandoms. The people I met online and the role plays and communities I was in got me through middle school tbh
Scourge was never an obsession for me. Being an eight year old at the time, the scene where he absolutely DESTROYS Tigerstar, the until then main baddie of the series, in a MOMENT scared and fascinated me, but I still had other favourites.
Back when I was in the Fandom, I'd make his collar yellow specifically to annoy people. Worked every time. There's even comments on some of the videos on my channel of people complaining, it's great.
I got genuine whiplash with the whole "warrior cats being compared to the dream smp" thing. I had no idea that something like that would be considered actual drama or that people would get so upset about their beloved felines being compared to an equally dramatic minecraft roleplay.
Honestly. Like, I was shocked just to discover the comparison had been made; they're in entirely different realms of the internet. But then to find that people got so upset over it? It's not like OP was wrong. And to act like the DSMP is just garbage quality compared to *Warriors* of all things? That bit of drama is bizarre in every sense of the word.
I've been there during that drama and the main reason people were fighting wasn't because they through Dream Smp was poor quality, but because a lot of people disliked the problematic creators and how rabid the fandom can be. They simply did not want warrior cats to be associated with it
@@Pigeocore tbh, both fandoms are scary. as a part of both, i look forward to never seeing them in the same place again, because with all drama aside, and all due respect, it feels wrong lmfao
My friends and I met Tui T Sutherland at a Wings of Fire book signing, and I remember asked her why Shadow Clan is always evil while she signed the book. Basically her response was that she had to catch up on the Warriors lore.
Man I got bullied out of the wc rp side so fast because I wasn’t fully into the fandom (my best friend was at the time) and I wanted to make a cat named hawkstar. My 12 y/o brain didn’t understand and I just panicked and noped out lmao
I would rp irl with my friend and pretend to be a medicine cat, Then I'd go collect leaves and be shocked when they were not on the playground table the next day.
The dedication we all had to this when we were teens... I created tons of fanart, wrote several fanfics, and even took photos of stray cats out in nature and pretended they were the Warrior Cats, attaching them to actual characters and sharing made-up stories of how I found them and what they were doing LOL
One thing I actually admire about the warrior cats fandom is that the fans seem to not make ocs then put them into the already existing story, but they make their whole own story and characters based around the books which is quite interesting to me
Honestly it's pretty fun to read the ideas the fandom comes up with when they do that. Interesting clan concepts, sometimes better consistency, just fun stuff.
Y’all know the bramble is abusive discourse? Yeah. I feel like that, spottedleaf being groomed, and draikonator were the most dramatic things in fandom
@@mmmm-lg2mj pretty sure they sent nsfw stuff to a minor n other stuff but it's been a while so I'm probably not the best to get drama info from and knowing my memory I could be wrong or forgetting things they did
Even as an outsider Its insane how animators that go from making warrior cats animations to other animations can nail animal anatomy and how they move so well
I got bullied SO HARD for reading these books but I literally was so obsessed it was insane. I got cat figures for christmas when I was 8 because I wanted to make youtube videos about warriors but couldnt draw for shit. I roleplayed on the SSS Warrior Cats forum and would spend HOURS on there talking to people and literally convinced myself I was going to be an author because I just loved writing warrior cats stories so much. This was back in like 2009 and I outgrew the series probably by 2013 and I had NO CLUE people were still this into it! This video is so so good, brought so much back. I just remember being so obsessed with Jayfeather lmao
I just would like to say that the warrior cats fandom gave birth to my favorite Tumblr post of all time, a discussion about what is an acceptable age gap between cats if you would like to ship them. The phrase cat age gaps makes me laugh at least once a week. They were like “I think three years is acceptable, because they’re cats” and the responder was like “yeah that sounds right. Any lower then that would be wrong” and I just think it’s objectively funny.
We seriously need a Fallen Leaves super edition. He has so much potential as a character but was completely abandoned by the Erins after Hollyleaf's Story and (as far as I remember) was never even included in a main series. I'm so confused by his lore.
I first found the Warrior Cats series at my local library as a 13 year old... I'm now 24 and I still adore the series and reread the entire collection often. I've never felt so much emotion for a story of imaginary wild cats. I always cried so much when one passed away.. Part of my email is a shout out to Cinderpelt, best medicine cat ever!!
Cringe culture is dying and I'm so glad. A lot of it was adults and older teens basically shaming younger teens and kids for being passionate about a fandom.
@@mysryuza I feel like some of it might be like a protective thing? Like showing that you're better because you've grown up and out of it even though that passion is mostly harmless.
It seems like anything that isn't super serious and for adults risks being called 'cringe' and I hate it. Let people enjoy things! Unless they're being toxic with their fandoms, leave them alone!
God, the ‘Warrior Cats is like the Dream SMP’ drama was so fucking funny, because the og post was literally just comparing the two storylines in a lighthearted manner and so many people got genuinely pissed over it. Twas a fun few days on Twitter
me and some friends started an SMP on a small twitch streamer's discord (because he didnt have an official SMP, and we wanted everyone to be able to hang out on an MC server), but a dumbass dream fan thought SMP was a term started by dream and he accused us of stealing Dream's ideas.
There is also Russian warriors game called "Catwar". It’s literally a massive weird mmo with 2D graphics and role play. It was peak popular in 2016 but is up to this day. You should check it out at least to see what a phenomenon ru fandom has left
The real question we should be discussing here is: did Firestar ever like waffles??
firestar doesn’t like cookies :(
he doesn't even know what a waffle is u_u
*I have a carrot*
oh boy
Oh g o d
I remember back in the fourth grade the warrior cats girls would hiss at people and us boys were like "you're so weird" then proceed to use pinecones as currency in our pretend drug trade
Lmao
this is so funny omg
Duuddeee I was a fuckin pharmacist in our local warrior cats rp
dang im so glad that wasn't a part of your school. all the cringe would probably make me stop reading the books.
also at our school pinecones were worth a penny, and the bigger the rocks were the higher currency they were lol
my dad used to read me these books when i was 10-11. i loved them. he cried when bluestar died and i pretended to be asleep because i didn't know what to do.
LMAO SKENDKSBDJSKJ???
This actually made me laugh out loud picturing the scene 😂😂😂
Omg I’m sorry that’s so hilarious ToT
Awww oh no your dad is such a softie :( tell him we love him mkay
That is so touching ;-; I cried too lol
"Theyre very edgy and arent religious"
This is the best description of bloodclan ive even heard in my entire life
The edgy atheist cats 😖
@@garlicbreadsupremacy8176 This is 100% bloodclan
@@garlicbreadsupremacy8176 RedditClan
@@organa1626 that’s shadowclan
Twitter clan
I swore I distinctly remember one of Fireheart’s motives for leaving was to avoid being neutered. Like an older cat told him about how a cat would get taken to the vet and come back with drastic personality changes. Which happens when we neuter a cat.
Lol I just commented the same thing! You are correct
That’s definitely true because I thought my irl kitten was permanently damaged after getting fixed when I read that book.
I'm sorry if you already know this by now, or just don't care anymore, but you'd be absolutely right! It's from Chapter 2 of Into the Wild:
"“I can tell that you are still a tom,” Bluestar added, “despite the Twoleg stench that clings to your fur.”
“What do you mean-still a tom?”
“You haven’t yet been taken by the Twolegs to see the Cutter,” meowed Bluestar gravely. “You would be very different then. Not quite so keen to fight a Clan cat, I suspect!”
Rusty was confused. He suddenly thought of Henry, who had become fat and lazy since his visit to the vet. Was that what Bluestar meant by the Cutter?"
Yeah that’s an actual thing. He was told he was gonna get taken to the Cutter, or the vet, and Bluestar literally told him “I see you’re still a tom.” Meaning basically he still had his balls. Yknow if he went to the Cutter first we wouldn’t have had to deal with Ballgate..
Partially why I am morally disturbed by the concept
I'm proud to report as a former Warrior cats kid that at the elementary school library I work at, it very much is still a hit.
I work in a high school and have had a few disappointed students who came to try to find the books in our library. I feel guilty having to tell them that we just can't afford to spend money on middle school level books because we need to focus on "age appropriate" reading with our small budget. :( I personally think anything that gets a kid to read is good to have, but I just can't justify getting the Warrior Cats books when there are so many good YA options and only enough money to get around 50 books a year.
Exactly! In grade 2 I remember even me and my friend made our own twist on the books.
@@chelseacheckington7421 honestly I totally get that, it sucks but there just isn’t the budget sadly
@@chelseacheckington7421 oooo maybe encourage them to pool money to buy the books so they can be donated to the library!
It's been 11 years since I first discovered the series and I still love it to bits. It's so awesome!
The fact that Erin Hunter is actually several women writing together explains SO MUCH but it gets forgotten so often.
wait what?
@@chromyl_chloride yea its actually like a few different women who work as a team to make the books
and men.
@@jinx_76 oh my, I just looked at the list again. I didn't even realize that at first oof
Wait then what the fuck was that book signing I went to in 4th grade.
as a fan whos been reading all the books from 1st grade to present day this is like being a guest speaker veteran watching a teacher explain a war
edit: shit thats a lot of like wtf
nailed the vibe right on the head honestly
this summarizes it so well wtf
me too wtf
Are the new ones good? I dropped off around the fifth series
@@hannahhannah7002 well ok heres the thing, the broken code starts great but so far (i havent started the latest book) its fizzling out and is becoming predictable. its dealing with old plot points from arc 2 but the main characters are like... boring. except shadowsight i love that boy. bristlefrost is also pretty good when shes not with rootspring, and rootspring could be better if he just stopped and thought about anything other than bris. keep in mind these books are a way for me to turn my brain off and relax so ive most definitely forgotten boring bits that didnt stand out to my mush of a brain. i would recommend the first two books of the broken code its good
I thought I was part of the warrior cat fandom for a few weeks as a teen, only to discover that I actually never read Warrior Cat, I read the way more obscure "Cat School" by Korean Author Jin-kyung Kim ! Very good books he wrote to console his daughters after the death of their cat. Basically, when cats reach 15 yo, they leave their family and go to a cat school to learn magic, I re-read them as an adult, and I stand by theses books being very good. So if you like Warrior cats, you'll like theses as well :)
That sounds so precious! Ill definitely keep this in mind!
Yo!! I read Cat School in French as a kid! I was always curious to find if it was available in English, and if there were others out there who had read the books! (Haven't had any luck with online discussions of it till now). :)
@@embyrfyres YES ! I looked it up and they're very hard to find in english, I'm french as well ! Only french and Korean kids have an easy access to the books, and I've never met anyone else who had read them
@@Sganarellcan you provide some English links if you find them?
Holy shit you just unlocked a bunch of memories for me lmao I used to read the fuck out of that series
I feel like fandom culture is doing this 360 of people being into it, then finding it cringey, and finally people realizing that it was always about creativity and community and that’s great
Fnaf, Minecraft, Twilight and now warrior cats. The cycle of nostalgia and cringe moves unending.
You only stopped liking the things once you cared what other people thought, and you were only able to start liking them again once you matured past caring what they thought.
@@thanatoast Don't forget Homestuck, the cringe we made was legendary.
True!
@@thanatoast and my little pony (i’m still in it but still it is XD)
For everyone watching and wondering about if the cats in Warriors had balls or not... In the first book, Firestar talks heavily in the beginning about the neighboring cat who became slow and boring after going to the vet to get a "surgery" that was highly implied to be getting spayed. It was one of his main reasons for leaving his home lmfao
Neutered not spayed
its so funny to me that bluestar meets rusty and is just like “oh you still have balls? yeah sure come in” like she literally says ‘you are still a tom’ LMAO
@@Mollymauking I mean...
Gotta provide kids to the clan
That was actually one of my big issues with the books. My grandpa was a veterinarian, and spaying and neutering cats is one of the ways to prevent overpopulation and unwanted kitten deaths. The way that they acted like it was a bad thing always rubbed me the wrong way, even in middle school
@@skypaver989 Well, the books are written in the perspective of wild cats with strong opinions, strenght in numbers is very important to them. These cats also often mocked dogs but the Erin Hunters have written a series about dogs, Survivors, so it's obvious they're not against dogs, it's just the opinion of these cats. It's very likely the Erin Hunters are not against spaying and castrating cats either.
Around the time I was reading Warrior Cats an orange kitten showed up in my backyard and soon became my beloved first pet. I thought running around with a toy mouse was the equivalent of training him to hunt and fight. When he caught his first mouse I swore up and down he was actually Firestar. You could not convince me otherwise. I had an attachment to Firestar because of Whiskee and basically saw them one in the same.
He lived to be 14. I miss that fat orange man.
Aww this was really sweet to read! This video is the first I've ever heard of this series, but despite some toxicity it seems to have really inspired some kids to use their imagination and just be kids. Sorry for your loss, I'm gonna go hug my Finnegan now
Aww how sweet❤️ as a fellow cat owner i understand your feelings. I hope he is now a beloved and happy Star Clan member!
was he a ginger cat?
@@catcat7910 he was! :)
@@kimberlyd7394 cool! Ginger cats are adorable
no matter how many people tell me i used to be a "cringy" warrior cats girl, i don't really care. pretending to be Jayfeather or Bluestar and running around making bedding out of pine leaves and pretending the bark and moss was herbs were some of the best times of my life. I still read it to this day and no matter how long it becomes, i'll keep up with it just to keep my inner child happy.
seriously, i didn’t get into the fandom early enough in life to be a warrior cats roleplayer at recess, but my GOSH i would have! if only i’d gotten into the fandom around five years earlier…
Well when I was a kid (I don’t remember how old I was but I think around the ages of 13-15) I remember when Google Plus was a thing I remember role playing in fan made role playing communities (this was before games like Warrior Cats Ultimate Edition or WCUE for short was a thing on Roblox) and it was a fun side thing to do. Although G+ is gone now (it sadly shut down back in 2018 I think) but I remember the memories
@@coyotix there’s a reason warrior cat roleplay discord servers exist 😉
@@TheSkittlesAddict yeah, it just seems so much more fun to be a little kid playing with your friends on a playground and claiming the swingset sunningrocks as your territory than just writing * i place my paw on the rocks and shout, “this territory belongs to riverclan once more!” * such a nostalgic feeling i missed out on because i didn’t read the books until 7th grade
Yep, Warriors was a crucial part of some of our childhood's and I'm rlly glad I got into it. Re-reading the books now that I'm 17 and forgot stuff from them.
(commercial break) (fade from black with dramatic piano) “cardi b vs warrior cats fandom”
THIS MADE ME AUDIBLY WHEEZE
Excuse me what- 0_0
congratulations this made me laugh for several minutes straight at 5 in the morning
I HAD TO PAUSE FOR A SECOND especially as someone who isn't a wc fan LOL
I don’t really like Cardi B
the like quadruple take i had to do when i saw this video in my recommendations nearly broke my neck
Nice to see you here, Blixemi! :)
ello, nice seeing you here
Hiya, Blix!
Hello Blix!
Cool seeing you here :P.
Also.
This alaso happened to me xd
As someone who read these books (out of order) in elementary school without ever learning these books had a fandom, this video feels like going to a family reunion for the first time and all of your cousins are the most bizarre people imaginable
I was almost on the same boat as you (When I was little I almost started with Omen of the Stars) but was luckily redirected to the actual first book
same here I didn't read the big chapter books but I did read the comics of side stories of Warrior cat
Howdy cousin. How’ve you been over the years
Same the first two books I purchased on my own were the first warriors book of the first arc, and the second book... of the third arc.
Same
I always get a bit nervous when I go to look at anything about warrior cats. It's a series I hold near and dear to my heart, and while I know there are a lot of bad things about it, that doesn't mean I'm ever okay with being called cringy or stupid for liking them. My childhood was a vicious cycle of getting bullied for liking things and delving further into them to escape being bullied about them. I went into this video a bit afraid that you'd just be bashing us and I'm pleasantly surprised by this video and the in depth nature of it. So thank you, and I'll be sure to check out some of your other stuff!
Nah bash more of this
@@Zombina638 nah bash more of you
@@TheKeyToNowherenope!
I delved into this series when I was 14, now I’m 30 and have that same spark of imagination when I read them now
Idk why your scared of being cringe, everyone is into something cringe. Cringe culture itself is bad but if your cringe doesn't involve harming other people or doing something creepy it's fine. Like I think playing Fortnite is cringe but I understand and think it's fine.
You should not think it's cringe to be into something (unless you are acting like a child about it then it's a bit weird ig)
I once made the mistake of having a party where everyone got to do a drunken lecture on the topic of their choice, and one person launch into a forty-minute analysis of the exact naming conventions of the Warrior Cats characters, and because I know too many historians and anthropologists it kickstarted a two-hour argument over how the name system should work that nearly devolved into an actual fistfight at one point.
Everyone in the room was in their 20s or 30s.
i would love to hear more about this oml-
@@loveyx6731 I was very drunk at the time, but from what I remember the real sticking point was that there was a special name (Moon Pull or something) that a cat could only get if they performed a specific and extremely rare feat that I have entirely forgotten. During the questions phase someone asked if the name was a name or a title, and things degenerated into close to twenty people yelling that if it was a name if they still had their original name but they were to be unused as in military rank or if the title was the name as in The [Name] and they'd revert to the last name if they proved unworthy or fradulent in the earning, or if it was a name and if it replaced their current name or was added to their names and if you would be accurate but impolite to call them by their old name or simply wrong.
The whole thing was a complete mess even though at least four people there had formal training in onomastics, because they were doctoral students in history or anthropology in a room with free alcohol.
Oh my word 😂😂😂
@@UnreasonableOpinions as a past warrior cat fan: its neither a name OR a title, theyre cats with their own society (even though theyre extremely personified) and religion, most of the things they do dont make sense because its not supposed to be directly related to any human-like creation, hell they dont even call people humans they call them two-legs haha
i dont see the mistake
i have been waiting for another former weird cat/wolf girl to make a deep dive on the state of the internet in 2012, there seems to be a weird generation of animal girls who are now grown up and looking back it was such a zeitgeist of 'you had to be there' and preteen edge that will never be recreated for me again. shout out to my former weird wolf girls out there, love ya.
Yeah, true
I was one of those kind of animal girls, but instead of a cat or a wolf, I was a fucking peacock. Weird times
I've been waiting for a deep dive on warriors purely so it can dredge up memories long forgotten. former weird animal girls rise up.
man i was the warrior cats girl, the wolf girl and the horse girl, i was on another plane of existence when i was in elementary school
@@percedurza Oh my god same...damn that was a time
This is basically me, but now I’m just a furry lmao
The biggest drama for me was when it was revealed that there was not one Erin Hunter, rather THREE Erin Hunters in a trenchcoat
Same middle school aged me was so scandalized
I was irrationally upset by this discovery
What’s a trenchcoat? Never heard of that.
@@dartthenightlight3840 It's basically like a really long jacket (almost floor length) shady people wear in the movies. The cool ones will have straps and you can pop the collar
@@bloopdeboop1707 ok.
I feel like the Warrior Cats Roleplay community needs a video all of its own
Barnes & Noble warrior cats roleplay
Definitely.
She should cover all the dramas of the most popular roleplays as well as all the weird shit in public roleplays 😂
From cats giving birth in the middle of camp to people one-shotting their leader because of mild inconveniences 🤣
oh shittt I was in a 2 year long dedicated warrior cat roleplay as a child it was a whole damn thing it really does need a video
fr i roleplayed warrior cats on starstable for over 6 years, shit really went down and i still have friends from there to this day LOL
roleplaying warrior cats as a middle schooler while breaking deviantart's age limit was probably the happiest time of my life
My boyfriends little sister is obsessed with Warrior Cats and now I’ve ruined my recommended videos trying to relate to her and now I’m in too deep
You remind me of my cool aunt who sends me warrior cats videos 👍🏼
okay wait this is super sweet tho
That’s so cute omg
you're so cute omg
That is wholesome
The holy trinity of fandom autopsies is finally complete: Jenny Nicholson's Brony video, Sarah Z’s Homestuck video and Izzy's Warrior Cats video
Once✨🍭
Lol I’m still watching that homestuck video edit: I finished it :D
And I was in all 3 of them good god
I've watched that brony video like 4 times
I think it's better to hold off on the Homestuck video for now-I love Sarah Z's work and I think she meant well, but I feel like she rushed that one through, and it's unfortunate that a lot of the dark side of the anti-Homestuck 2 backlash went undiscussed.
I'm just waiting for a Guardians of Ga'Hoole videoessay. That was such a weird trip.
"Where they were out on the playground roleplaying feral cats" man you dont need to call me out
I hadn't even heard of warrior cats but I definitely role-played as a feral cat a few times
I was Eagleheart
I did this, 100%. And I was in middle school! The school almost shut us down for gang behavior because we called ourselves a clan.
Probably no-one will see this particular comment, but just in case someone finds it interesting there was a fairly robust community of Warrior Cats roleplayers in World of Warcraft early on and likely still today. They would play as Druids which have access to a cat form very early on, and they would form guilds to represent their clans.
LOL THATS COOL
the recess warrior cats roleplay was such a big part of my childhood. literally the entire 1st through 3rd grade did it.
I hung out with a group of girls back in 4th grade and they indoctrinated me into their recess Warrior Cat roleplay group even though I had never touched a Warrior Cat book.
This is an international experience
god me too
PLEASE HAHA
@@tailsknuxfan101 same boat. Had no idea what the fuck was going on, but I got to be a cat, so I didn't care.
Her: MAPs
Me: Oh no
Her: Multi-animation projects
Me: Ohhhh
😂
Twitter ruined the term MAPs
Same man I had a mini heart attack when she said maps
SAME
@@redwheat333
Twitter was a mistake
Fun fact! There's a character in the books called FoxHeart. Foxheart is slang for b***h in-universe. The clan named a cat b***h.
LMAO
Reminds me of Cockweed
@@deleteduser9755 tell me you're joking and that's not a real warrior cats character
@@millicentwood549 its like a meme in the community but they're not real
it gets weird when you realize deadpool could be a warrior name plus I remember foxpaw so excited and wanted to be called foxchaser or something like that poor baby
In order to solve the Dovewing eye color problem once and for all, someone should sacrifice their sanity to count through all the books how many times each eye color is mentioned.
i would gladly do that, i just always borrow the books from libraries so i need to make a few trips lol-
That actually seems fairly easy nowadays! There are sites with the entire books uploaded, so you could realistically ctrl F and look for the words eyes and Dovewing, and quickly figure out the amount
I think you meant dwang
i was thinking about doing that since i started rereading the series lately, so this comment motivated me to make this attempt. it’ll probably take me a while but i’ll give it a shot lol
I just sort of never noticed it changed😂 I was like "oh her eyes are green huh ok" and then like 10 pages later id be like. "Oh her eyes are blue? Aight"
😂
Is targeted toward teens and tweens
Most of the fandom now: 20-28
@Egg T I didn’t expect anything
They're still less twee than adult Harry Potter fans, in my opinion.
@you aren’t weeb for watching two episodes of mha and those books are on my 25 yr old bookshelf too?? Like y’all
I’ve been reading these books since 2003. THATS what I’m getting at. Most of the content creators for warriors are 20-28 years old. 🤷♀️ y’all thinking about this too much
fuck i feel old
Or late teens :’D
Fun fact: Spiked dog collars were invented as basically armor to protect sheep dogs from wolf attacks. When wolves fight for real they usually go for the neck, with spiked collars they got a mouth full of spikes and hard leather/chain.
Spiked Collars are basically armour. Nice. Reminds me of those Conquistador dogs, but then I remember the atrocities they used those doggos for and I get sad.
I will not recount those atrocities here, so if you're curious Google it at your own risk.
@@MasoTrumoi Thanks for posting this, I learned something about history that I had never ever heard anything about before.
Oh hey that's actually some interesting info, thank you!!
That’s badass, ngl
Even the greatest of nerds can learn something everyday, thanks
I was a major Warrior Cats kid and I've come back to reading the books as an adult and honestly it's even MORE fun now because of how wacky and insane the community and books really are. I'm often just left staring at a page in the book and going 'I'm sorry WHAT'S the target demographic?' or 'what the hell does that even MEAN?' and it's honestly really entertaining.
What do you mean by what’s the target demographic and what does that even mean.
ik i just reread the first series after like 13 years and i was reading when tigerstar basically had stonefur’s(?bluestar’s son) throat ripped out in front of the apprentices and i was like……. is this not for 11 year olds 😭😭
@@ThePcmgirl were they drunk when giving it an age rating
@@ThePcmgirlI remember reading the books when I was 8. Idk, honestly that’s probably as graphic as it gets from what I remember but I think an 11 year old can handle that amount of gore.
This video gave me violent flashbacks about my christian afterschool club that tried to ban our warrior cats roleplays because we were "acting ungodly" or something
Warrior cats girls were on another level from horse girls
One would neigh at you and gallop in your direction and the other would hiss, pretend swipe at you, or throw sticks
I was one ✨🚶♀️👏🏻
@@valerius8985 I kinda hate these generalizations because first off: kids should be able to be kids, imaginative and creative without being bullied for it. Secondly because I was super into wolves and warrior cats and I never acted like how everyone stereotypes. In a way it creates sour memories around it and makes it feel like I'm unable to express my past interests and hobbies.
@@Delihlah it was a joke. I was both a horse kid and a warriors kid and still read the books to this day. Kids are free to be kids man it's just funny to look back on the weird shit we did and laugh
warrior cats and animal jam are like 90% of why i’m a furry
Someone help I cannot get out of this fandom
Am I a 28-year old married lady with a full-time job and a house? Yes
Have I been working on a warriors fan-comic for six years now? Also yes
Anyone on hatena and did RP. So many clans I’ve joined
Hey, at least you’re making something! I’m only slightly older and all I’m doing is still reading the books lmfao. (No but for real your comic sounds awesome)
that sounds awesome!!! is there anywhers i can find your comic?
Why do you need help? It sounds like you're having fun. Now if you quit your job, get divorced, and are forced to file bankruptcy because you're obsessively drawing a comic and can't control yourself then you might want to have a chat with a professional. Who cares if you're into something? I mean, it's not like your fandom is crack or heroine.
Don't fight it, just enjoy it if it brings you happiness.
I am a youth librarian who has never read Warrior Cats, and this deep dive has made me so much more knowledgeable about the series when kids ask about it.
i will never forget reading bluestar's prophecy in my 4th grade classroom and straight up sobbing in front of a bunch of my classmates
I cried when Honeyfern died in the middle of civics class
I read it at home in 2nd grade in my closet, so my mom just saw her 8 year old child sitting in a closet crying over cats
Bluestars prophecy was one of the saddest warrior books next to crookedstars promise. They're both my favs tho
Bluestar’s Prophecy is still the only book that has made me cry. 😿
felt that
Everything about this is spot on except that you calling scourge the main baddie of the first arc, THATS TIGERSTAR ERASURE
Exactly, where's Tigerstar?
based
And them calling silverstream firestars mate, although she may as well be
@@juniper5604 bruh i thought you meant that pink hippogriff in mlp 💀💀🦅
@@rawcookiedough7518legend has it he's still gurgling on the floor to this day
I work at a library, and I put away at least one of these books a day. Like that’s not an over-exaggeration. They’re still incredibly popular, but I knew almost nothing about the books themselves or that there was even a fandom before this video.
That's actually so sweet. I started the books in 2010 and it kinda makes me happy that they are still so popular
Reminds me of when I read them in middle school, it was always so hard to get the next book in the series because there were like three other people reading them at the same time as me lol
It's either that or Geronimo Silton books, they're fucking everywhere. Also worked at a library.
Dovewing's natural eye color is green, but her eyes appeared blue while she had her powers because of her connection to the ancient cat Dove's Wing (who had blue eyes), changing to green when she lost her powers after the prophecy was fulfilled. Her eyes appeared golden during the drought because they were reflecting the harsh sunlight.
wha
I feel like there would be less dovewing eye colour discourse if this was canon, so I’ll just ask- is that confirmed?
Reminds me of my dad because sometimes it looks blue and sometimes it looks green (I’m talking about his eyes loll!)
Istg the Warrior Cats fandom is so amazing, cus any holes the original plot has they will just fill in with headcanons and lore
@@ZoeStone-rf9ftwhat the fuck
Honestly warriors has remained probably the least problematic fandom ive ever been in. were just a bunch of people who love these funky little forest cats.
Sameeeee, it also helped me connect with a bunch of people and get into role playing (acting) and creative things like drawing and writing and story telling.
(Also wanted to mention I love you profile)
Yeah. It says a lot about the fandom that one of the biggest “discourses” is over which eye color is canon
really? that's interesting! i definitely had the opposite experience lol it was a lot of angsty middle schoolers
Well umm it was pretty toxic when I was there, happy there are ppl with other experiences. Shippers were quite insane 😂
i love the art in this video so much
Oh cool the cat guy
Wait were you a warriors fan?
hey Chip. Like your vids.
Hoi chip man
Hey chip didn’t know you where a warrior cats fan
Chip knows warrior cats now I could comment on those vids about the comparisons from your vids and warriors btw I love your vids they were how I started to do photoshop
It feels childish when you talk about being a fan of a cat book, but the stories and backstories, the characters and the universe are genuinely so well written and interesting
Even moreso when people point out the problem with the stories or cliches as if that means it's all garbage and childish...
*when the video literally says the books are very badly written and boring lol (no hate to fans tho)
Yeah, the books are soo terrible, yet like clockwork, they manage to always be a financial success. After nearly 20 years, there's a reason the series is still around.
Facts
//spoilers kinda??
honestly the books even the SE are very badly written, literally i can say Bramblestars situation is just beacuse erins doesn't know how to write him and his relationship with Squirrelflight
About poor writing, I think it's the word choice. Because, Russian editions of Warrior Cars are fucking masterpieces, the word choice is fantastic. They put a lot of work and visible love into translating and adapting. For example, instead of directly translating "deputy" into a modern russian word "zamestitel'" which is associated with corporate powers, they named deputies "glashatai", which is an old Russian word, roughly translating to "herald", or exchanging "medicine cat" for "tselitel" - an uncommon word describing a magical healer in tribes. And it's just the names alone, i can't judge the plot, because i didn't read the original, but I think Russian translators putting such an effort in just translating names alone to create mystery and magic, could technically rewrite it more coherently. And they probably did, because sentence structure of Russian and English languages is noticeably different.
I feel like if Warriors was real, someone would probably get curious about loud yowling coming from the woods, and would bring a flashlight, only to see herds upon herds of cats, just scratching the living shit out of each other.
the next morning animal control would be called to catch all the stray cats and neuter them
@@TheAkwarium didn’t that happen in the actual books? when their forest gets torn down and they all get put in cages?
@@moogaboogaa I seriously have no idea, but were there neutered cats in the series?
@@TheAkwarium In the first series "The cutter" was used (from my memory) to mean being taken to the vet to be spayed/neutered. I cannot recall a single instance in the first arc that "the cutter" was used to mean vet in general, just in the second arc and beyond.
Anyway. "The cutter" and neuters were mentioned a lot in the first book in particular. I think it's Bluestar that mentions Rusty is still a tom and hasn't been to the cutter yet. When explained what a cutter is, Rusty thinks of Henry, one of his neighbors who became lazy and fat after visiting the cutter. Rusty is glad that he is still a tom, and someone remarks that he is of the age where twolegs bring cats to the cutter, so they were sure he'd not be one for long.
Later during a hunting assignment (not sure what book), Firepaw attacks Smudge, who is now neutered. He remarks he smells different is fat/plump and once again is thankful he was never brought to the cutter. he lets Smudge go and gets in trouble because Tigerclaw saw him let Smudge go.
Outside of the first few books I can't recall any cat being specifically mentioned they were neutered like this. But I stopped reading at omen of the stars.
@@kieran7173 oh shit, I completely forgot about "the cutter". I've stopped reading too a long time ago
Back in the day this series literally turned a bully of mine into a friend due to discussing our cat OCs. A different friend also drew a picture of my cat who had just passed away as a member of StarClan to watch over me.
That is like genuinely sweet oh my gods I love how stuff like that could happen from a big fandom like this
that's actually really cute
That is so cute :(
😭
Awww that’s adorable!!
Hey, I'm the person who drew the cat balls, I had no idea it became into any kind of drama actually! I don't think anyone ever confronted me about it personally, called me names or accused of anything so I was clueless about any of this, which is actually kinda funny now! :D So I was surprised to hear my unlisted animation was included in the drama section, as to me it seems there was no drama, it was private or at least I was never pulled in it anyhow, other than the comment section of my video. Those were some times for sure!
I now regret doing it and wouldn't do again, because yeah it is weird and totally unnecessary, and it was supposed to be a funny joke as during that time there were jokes about those kind of things and a few other people drawing cat balls for kicks. I was kinda hoping people would forget about it as it is embarrassing! :D
I am very impressed the lengths this dive went into, the amount of work behind this all is insane!
lmao what an introduction "I'm the person who drew the cat balls"
@@pieloloon XD
haha dude that's so funny
wait what timestamp?
@@necesitoboba9971 35:17
just saw this video two years after release. cute video, so many memories, so many friends featured! hope you had fun looking into our little niche of the internet.
ur amazing
My extreme obsession with warrior cats was so formative as a kid that its so strange to hear someone else talk about it. I was one of only two kids in my entire large public school that were into them so I forget that it was a large international franchise. Warrior cats was geninley like a religion
Me too, the only time I would interact with other warrior fans was online but I was the only one renting the books in the school library.
same. I remember I was sooo excited when I found a whole group of Warrior cats fans on neopets :D
Being the only non warrior cats fan in a friend group of 10 warrior cats fan was very stressful. No matter how I role played my given character it was always wrong lol. They always tired to catch me up by explaining the plots for me to only end up confused.
@@solarmoth4628 Yeah warriors has very specific rules and traditions and role-players often get mad when you don't know every one of them lol. Like there are even certain name rules that aren't really official (like not using "Moon-", "-moon" or Star-" in names) but they pretend it's official
Also... honourable mention to Mothwing and Crowfeather's eye colours constantly swapping. I made a comic about that back in the day on DA :')
hi amy !!!
may i see?
Oh god, YOU were the one that made that??
may i see it
THAT WAS YOU
The best thing I've ever done in a fandom was making a 72 slide medicine cat guide documenting almost all poisons, medicines, and ailments. I still think that is a fucking masterpiece and I made that when I was like twelve
Edit: You can find the link in the comments + thank you to everyone who gave their kind words about the project
Okay, don't say that shit and then not post a link. Do you still have it??
@@qweeesh Hell, for an unfinished presentation this is still pretty expansive. You even quote when and where the herbs are found, which shows how much effort went into researching it. Thank you for the link!
@@qweeesh This is incredibly cool!!
That is actually really cool idk why but I like it. I might do a google slide for something
Okay I did something really similar lol in like fifth grade my friend and I made a Google slides of like almost all of the cats from the books lol
I read the entire first and second arc (along with a few super editions) aloud to my little brothers, and tried to give every cat a unique voice - and boy did that get hard, especially in the later books when there were multiple POVs. It was super fun though and definitely a fond memory.
I have a list of other canonically possible warrior names:
- Littlefoot
- Bluetooth
- Morningwood
- Ravenclaw
- Deadpool
- Snakeheart (Similar to “Foxheart”, as both are an insult. But, the difference here is that is hasn’t been used in canon yet)
Rockstar
Would Potroast be considered a viable warrior cats name?
Meet Morningwood, with 8 mates and 30 different children, hes broke from being sued for child support
Here's more
-Fleshlight
-Skyrim
-Black Mesa
-Starbuck
-Liquid Ocelot
-Heatstroke
-Moisthole
ravenclaw was indeed used in the books
my memories of being a ~9 y/o warrior cats fan:
- roleplaying on Animal Jam
- lots of fan animations w/ edgy music (that one scourge video w/ the USSR-tetris song?)
- lots of deviant art
- owl city obsession(?)
- good online friends
- never actually fully read the books lmao
Yess I’m surprised there weren’t more calls to the AJ kids - like the Roblox kids, it was a WHOLE thing. I specifically remember these children using SCIENTIFIC biological terms to describe their edgy cat ocs. For example, my young fourth grade self had no idea what a “panthera onca” was. Or kids literally competing in their “medical knowledge” to be a medicine cat. I literally owned a journal and MEMORIZED herbs and their uses. AJ warrior cats were hardcore 🖐😭😭
@@Hannah-pp4cc I had one of the Warrior Cats guidebooks and I studied that shit night and day to memorize the herbs lmao. I didn't play on AJ because I didn't have internet growing up, but I did play with irl friends and would collect random plants around the playground/yard and pretend they were herbs lmfao. I wish I was half as dedicated to my college major now as I was to larping as the RiverClan medicine cat in fourth grade 😂
holy shit was the Owl City thing with all warrior cats fans? Because i adored owl city. Weird.
Do you mean rasputin
@MercyPewPew honestly 😭😭
I knew a girl in elementary who'd always read those books, she'd draw cats and wolves all the time and I remember being so jealous of her art too. I tried drawing one of her warrior cats ocs for her, she awkwardly smiled at the deformed cat and said thank you. I guess its the thought that counts
This is too wholesome
@@amoixtlapaltic4690 agreed
my god why was this me
The apology written for the 'eugenics troll' sounded infinitely more sincere and genuine than the numerous apology vids created by RUclipsrs.
during hurricane sandy when my power was out for a week i had nothing better to do than to create an entire fanclan. i had a cat drawing base that i traced and colored in for every individual cat. i made like 30 OCs and they all had names and backstories and i mapped out all their familial and romantic connections. eventually a few years later i migrated it to a google spreadsheet and i used a dolldivine warrior cat oc maker to make digital images of all the cats. i never even did anything with it i just did it for funsies.
That's QUEEN BEHAVIOR
omg I made four entire clans with over 100 ocs each with their own stories, and then I wrote 12 sketchbooks full of the story until I got bored of it but dang I just kept going...
based
that's awesome
I once won a pet fish at a carnival and- going through my warrior cats phase- I named her Spottedleaf. (I was 9 at this time btw) Pretty soon after that I got to the part of the series where Spottedleaf dies, and my poor fish died the very next day. For YEARS I was convinced that if you name your pet after a fictional character, and then that character dies, then your pet is doomed to die as well. Thank you Erin Hunter(s) for that I guess.
I’m so sorry to laugh!😭😂❤️ I’m sure spottedleaf is in a happy place (: but that’s such a coincidence!😅 I would’ve thought the same!
Kinda sad ngl. RIP Spottedleaf, you were a great fish.
Aww :(
I named my fish Mickey (After one of the dogs in survivors) And my fish hasn’t died yet. And neither has the character
They should really stop giving fish out like that
I’m honestly surprised that this school library book series has such a large fandom.
This girl I knew who had horses used to read these books in elementary
True
I read them religiously and never saw them in any libraries, in my country they just started translating them few years ago
so we all found it in the same place huh-
Animorphs did the same thing. So did guardians of gahoole 😅
When I was around 12 I discovered the Warrior Cats books and I was OBSESSED with them for serveral years. I had my own little RPG forum website where I created my own Clans, characters and stories. It was my form of escapism. I was thinking about my characters 24/7; as soon as I got home from school I went online and started roleplaying. Even after I stopped reading the books I continued to write my own Warrior Cats stories.
Anyway, this whole fandom shaped so much of my personality and I started writing stories and poetry because of it. I´m kinda thankful that my teen years were shaped by Warrior Cats.
I ran one of the roleplay websites and was active on so many of them, that was such an era of my life
"Why did the works of Erin Hunter resonate so heavily with tweens around the globe to the point where they were literally at school, on the playground, roleplaying as feral cats?"
...didn't have to call me out like that
Dude im almost 16 and im still reading Warrior Cats lol. Crazy
I'm a grown ass woman and it resonated with me.
I would have made this my whole personality if I read them as a kid.
me and my cousin would literally make up a whole story line while crawling on our hands a knees pretending to be our cat OC's... dont know why this shit resonated so hard but it fuckin did
Ajjdjdhhdh SAME- except its what's got me into online rp
"around the globe"
Not in the part of the world where I live
When I was young all I cared about were the cats, but when you get older you realize the truth about religious issues, politics, borders with owned land, and fights between nations were very true and real.
I was talking about it with a friend back in december and someone described it as baby's first game of thrones and that's not too far off
@@wildcutecosplay Growing up my mum called the books 'Game of Thrones for kids' and that would embarrass me so much.
Dawnshade 49 at least y'all had that. My friends called it "magical kitty books" and made fun of me
As someone who participated in the warrior cats fandom for years, it is insane how much talent these people have. Kids are creating god tier animations with no formal training and shitty software. I think being a warrior cats fan gives you some sort of super powers, because I used to draw and animate using a laptop mousepad and my finger and I could never do that now
Seriously! Like i could never draw cats in my life, then I joined the WC fandom and suddenly i was pumping out fanart like i was being paid (i very much am not).
omg same!! I created some impressive digital fanart about 13 years ago I don't think I could replicate today. I honestly can't even remember how I did it.
the 'tism strikes again
probably no one will see it, but I just feel the need to share it
warrior cat's polish edition has different covers from the original series and they are so gorgeous and I love them and I just think everyone in the fandom should know about their existence
also the art shown at 22:59 is the cover art for polish edition of mapeshade's vengeance and now I'm confused
Aaaa!! Its on my bucket list to get one.
Does anyone else remember when people started shipping Jayfeather and his stick
Okay, my memory of the books is super foggy, but I had to chime in here. I'm almost positive it was the books that were shipping Jayfeather with his stick. I'm like, 80% sure it was a real canon thing.
@@thejynxedlynx5570bhejsb that’s so wild holy shit
Yes lmaoooo
Yes. Yes I do.
I still do to this day, they are a power couple.
welp. the burning question of “is anyone still reading those soap opera feral cat novels i was obsessed about when i was 10” has been answered.
I was super into the books but wasn't really allowed on the internet that much so all this fandom news is new to me. I am just glad someone else read the series.
I'm reading a series right now
@@rawcookiedough7518 same
I stopped after the orginal ending. Where Firestar died after he lost his last life.
@@Kas_Styles yea after the last hope i preeeaty much consider it a diff seirise
\its still good but they coluda stop it there
i am embarrassed to say that i used to be that warrior cat obsessed girl who would hiss and swipe at people aggressively.
Same, i used to rp warrior cats with like 3 other people in the primary school playground-
i mean based on the profile pic and username war never changes huh
Edit: let the record show that op’s username was “nagitoes” before this comment
@@thatoneguy9582 ^ this comment is ridiculously accurate
It's great to know I wasn't the only one
I was to :') it was fun but i still get made fun of it for that even though it was like 4 years ago
I used to always be like "i'm just a normal kid" but I could name every Warrior Cats book in timeline order, summarize every one, and had every cat memorized and laid out in a chart
You did a good job. Honestly I apologize for my initial assumption that this was going to be a negative force before it came out. (We've got a new mess to sort through basically once a week.) The Cardi B thing was overblown-- there wasn't actually much fighting, beyond one or two posts like "why are there so many cats in the #wotw tag?" We just decided to move hashtags when, for a couple weeks, the WOTW posts were unfindable in a sea of music-related posts. Honestly, we could have reverted after the hype was over, but it's less likely to happen again with #wcotw.
HA I found you
Hello Moonkitti! Love the art, and your input!
ooooooh moonkitti's here!!
oh hi moon
Sup moon :3
I remember I used to draw art of all the cats in primary school, and I also used to draw the fight scenes from the books, but my parents were very concerned about me drawing cats fighting and sent me to therapy. I specifically remember my parents taking to my teachers about how "She's gotten better about not drawing cats killing each other" which I think is pretty funny
But WHY DID THEY TAKE U TO A THERAPY FOR DRAWING FIGHTING WARRIOR CATS?!?!
I draw them non stop too i hope my parents dont send me to therapy..
@@bubblelovessans I think it's something about kids drawing violent images in general being associated with something being wrong/an expression of feelings etc, but it isn't 100 % a given just because of a kid is drawing 'edgy' art there is smt wrong. Also therapy isn't a bad thing and anyone regardless can go to therapy, for example a person may go to therapy because they don't know how to handle stress, from everyday life very well. Another example would be someone going because they can't understand or express their feelings well. (Many reasons in general but I brought two examples, that's a RUclips comment after all lol)
@@bubblelovessans I'm going to guess they didn't know about warrior cats, and so to them it looked like their kid had randomly become obsessed with cats ripping each other to shreds. I remember some WC fights getting pretty bloody, so...
Just gonna say your pfp caught me off guard
@@Hauntedomens LMAO I love my pfp 💀💀
As someone who read 10 warrior cats books but didn't get involved in the fandom because I didn't speak English yet, I can say that this video was a whole ass experience
Did you country have a fandom of its own? We had a hell of a drama in the Russian segment.
watching this video im kinda glad I never got consumed in the fandom
I loved the books so much but compared to their enjoyment, my interest is like saying "I just think they're neat"
Oooh are you french ?0:
@Egg T i know, i'm french myself :') im just asking because of their name
@@valdavermillion4545 i used to roleplay on a russian warrior cats forum when I was 10. it was... an experience, lol
Those who are not aware, check Tad Williams' debut novel, Tailchaser's Song. Superficially quite similar to WC, but it's more high fantasy and a hero's journey kind of story. Also 17 years older. No rabbit holes there because there's no sequels. He just wrote 1 cat book and moved to other fantasy after that. I absolutely love it.
This is so, so strange from the perspective of someone who was utterly obsessed with this series in middle school but had 0 online presence and no friends who also liked it and therefore was isolated in my enjoyment of the series.
Me too! I would look up amv’s and fanart and draw my own fanart but never got into the fandom and never had anyone else I know into it. I had a cousin who liked them but he didn’t talk about them because we were kids and he was embarrassed because it was a “girls book” when that doesn’t matter at all lol (surprise, I’m now a boy anyways lol) so I knew many people read it, I just didn’t realize how big the fandom was and some of the wild shit that happened lol
Same! I was never allowed on the internet until I was 13-14 and had the premonition that I was alone in liking the books because *nobody* at my school read them.
Same, I had one friend who liked it and that was it
I went to a Waldorf school (aka a weird subset of private school that tried to peer pressure parents into make sure children didn't spend time on computers, TVs, video games, etc during weekdays and you got in trouble if you talked about media stemming from electronics too much in front of a teacher) Warrior cats was extremely popular in my grade to a point where everyone expect three read it (I was one of the three, I pretended to too cool for it but really I wad dyslexic) so this video is also super weird to discover. I remember roleplaying warriors cats was super big during recess and during playdates to the point where even if you didn't read the series you had to understand to a basic level how a clan functioned in order to hang out with people during recess. It was wildd
I WAS THE EXACT SAME!!!
Hey there! I'm the one who created the Roblox Warrior Cats game from a long time ago that you showed at 32:03
I was like twelve when I made it lmao, but now I'm working on Warrior Cats: Ultimate Edition, the one at 33:11, it's going to release soon and we're slowly working on it!
Thank you for making this giant video on the fandom, it's nice to look back at everything that happened.
Whoa- you’re here!
pog hi viz
man I used to spend so much time on the original roblox game when I was younger, good memories.
Woah dude that’s so cool
Man you are my childhood
correction: neutering is actually discussed in the books, albeit briefly. when firestar was still rusty his neighbor cat/friend went to the vet for "cutting" and came back much lazier and docile. it's implied that this was going to happen to rusty and it's one of the reasons he left his home to become firepaw.
Why did this trigger my memory??? I haven't even thought about the books for 10ish years yet this is one of the details I recognize
@@ash_rock probably for the same reason i remember this detail even though i havent read into the wild in probably over a decade
@@ash_rock I think its cuz the books are subtly but still anti neuter cuz there cats and (what cats what's to be fixed? None I've met.) they would much rather bang their hearts out.
But irl were so pro fixing when it comes to cats because massive feral cat overpopulation issues cuz native wildlife to go extinct.
(Witch fun fact isn't working so some countries like australia have started hunting for sport. But not like im proud "i killed a cat" but more like "im proud I killed a vermit we naturally genetically modified to efficiently kill small pest and let get Farrell enough to be like more like coyotes (with how the act with us not in general) that's making naturally occuring samll animals extinct)
Yeah, the vet is literally called The Cutter in the books so we can assume that at least some of the cats have been spayed/neutered
He left home to keep his balls
I read these in my native tongue, German, throughout first until fifth grade I think. So I never noticed the bad writing, and I remember my physical hardcover books having lists of clans and their members at the start of every book - which meant some order to look back to, some spoilers too. The covers weren't paintings in Photoshop, but rather RL photos of cats with some background that partly spoiled the plot of each book. I loved that as a kid, whereas now it sometimes looks like covers of standard romance/erotica novels 😂
I also read the in German ages ago (The first three arcs, I think) and I never really noticed the inconcistencies. Since the German publisher is known for educational books and schoolbooks and also tries to keep its novels up to a certain "you could read this in school" standard, I guess, the editors were doing some extra hours, fixing this stuff.
I also read it in German, and I am currently rereading it(in English). The Editors definitively worked extra hours. 'Heiler' just sounds ten times better that 'medicine cat' (Like, they could have used healer or some new Word)
I think it are all those little Things, that make it much more enjoyable.
let's not forget that literally 70% of thunderclan is now related to jake biologically
Mmmm your username says it all also jake is everyone's dad
Is it a Genghis Khan thing?
I mean. LionBlaze's son has babies with his dad's cousin.
@@dizzisliving2355 lion's dads cousin or lion's cousin?
@@hushfur lionblaze's cousin ivypool and his son have kits together
when i was like 10 i met erin hunter at a barnes and noble event thingy and asked her if the inconsistencies were on purpose sometimes like easter eggs and she straight up SNAPPED AT ME i wanted to cry
Ugh, that's awful. Any idea which "Erin" it was?
@@PissyLissy it was victoria! meanwhile i was part of kate cary’s warriors blog and she was always super sweet, she even put in effort to make sure my shitty fanfic was up when the site was glitching on me. so its not all of them that give attitude to literal children
Victoria just LOOKS mean.
Thats so sad.
oof i feel sorry for u ;-;
Warrior Cats is a fandom which has its problems in some situations... But damn would I be lying if I say that I haven't seen and haven't met amazing and talented artists who are in the fandom
Like holy crap
Same! I was obsessed with GinjaNinjaOwO!! They’re so talented and I found them through the warrior cat animations!
Honestly the Warriors fandom, despite having a few bad eggs and dramas, is relatively non-toxic compared to other fandoms. The people I met online and the role plays and communities I was in got me through middle school tbh
@@iswearimnotafurry4953 love your name xD
also yeah pretty much same here with a few other things
@@SamiTheAnxiousBean lmao thank you
Yes, we are the greatest Fandom. Now we just need a movie or animated series.
Scourge was never an obsession for me. Being an eight year old at the time, the scene where he absolutely DESTROYS Tigerstar, the until then main baddie of the series, in a MOMENT scared and fascinated me, but I still had other favourites.
For sum reason I wanted to figure out how he got 9 lives ripped outta him at once because I was confused💀
@@Nox.x_ART I would have been more astounded if he DIDN’T get all nine lives ripped out of him after that
@@Nox.x_ART scourge hit 9 vital organs and took all his lives 💀
@@hushfur yeah. I read that on the wiki and was just like “damn 💀”
He was like the Thanos of those books maaan that was a PLOT TWIST. The book where that happens is the best book by far and I remember it being my fav
I’ve long left the fandom, but I had a head canon about how Scourge’s color was like a mood ring
This is my new favorite headcanon.
Yes
Hhhhh
Back when I was in the Fandom, I'd make his collar yellow specifically to annoy people. Worked every time. There's even comments on some of the videos on my channel of people complaining, it's great.
35:38 I mean Firestar’s reason for leaving his humans WAS trying to keep his fireballs…
Firestar needs a novella called 'Firestar's Balls' idc if he's dead
@@dvmpw33d Nah, it's gotta be "Great Balls of Firestar".
@@callumjohnston858 Yeah lol
@@dvmpw33d The FireBalls; a fan made novella.
stawhp 😂
I got genuine whiplash with the whole "warrior cats being compared to the dream smp" thing. I had no idea that something like that would be considered actual drama or that people would get so upset about their beloved felines being compared to an equally dramatic minecraft roleplay.
Honestly. Like, I was shocked just to discover the comparison had been made; they're in entirely different realms of the internet. But then to find that people got so upset over it? It's not like OP was wrong. And to act like the DSMP is just garbage quality compared to *Warriors* of all things? That bit of drama is bizarre in every sense of the word.
I've been there during that drama and the main reason people were fighting wasn't because they through Dream Smp was poor quality, but because a lot of people disliked the problematic creators and how rabid the fandom can be. They simply did not want warrior cats to be associated with it
@@Pigeocore Ohhh, okay. Still senseless drama but it's a tad more reasonable. The DSMP fanbase can be yikes. Tysm for elaborating what happened.
I mean the comparison isn’t wrong
@@Pigeocore tbh, both fandoms are scary. as a part of both, i look forward to never seeing them in the same place again, because with all drama aside, and all due respect, it feels wrong lmfao
My friends and I met Tui T Sutherland at a Wings of Fire book signing, and I remember asked her why Shadow Clan is always evil while she signed the book. Basically her response was that she had to catch up on the Warriors lore.
Wait, no Roleplayers clan? In my childhood experience, the RP side was by far the biggest and most drama-filled aspect of the fandom.
god i remember the vaguely nsfw animal jam furry warrior cats roleplays
Lmao it really was. Had someone send me death threats back in the early internet forum days.
Man I got bullied out of the wc rp side so fast because I wasn’t fully into the fandom (my best friend was at the time) and I wanted to make a cat named hawkstar. My 12 y/o brain didn’t understand and I just panicked and noped out lmao
Oh god me sneaking on dial up internet to post RP replies on forums was a big part of my early teens
that was literally the only thing i knew about WC going into this video i’ll be honest
-shoutout ChatChat-
praying for everyone who started out doing art drawing warrior cats adoptables on deviant art and never learnt how to draw people properly 😔
this is me 💔
@@ilikecats3687 didn't need to be called out like that, but I guess there are worse things to be reminded of in the morning 😔😭
cats are easier to draw anyway-
I did atleast😰
💔
me when i was 7 “mating” with the leader of shadowclan on the roblox warrior cats game: 👩💻
Me but on wolves' life: 👩💻
Meanwhile I was trying to get attention by jumping in the river
@@MoonyVoid
me who made :
hazelheart | blind | medcat | often sad :(
basically making super emo ocs lol-
Me when i was 7 with no computer or internet because of strict parents:
🐟
I would rp irl with my friend and pretend to be a medicine cat, Then I'd go collect leaves and be shocked when they were not on the playground table the next day.
The dedication we all had to this when we were teens... I created tons of fanart, wrote several fanfics, and even took photos of stray cats out in nature and pretended they were the Warrior Cats, attaching them to actual characters and sharing made-up stories of how I found them and what they were doing LOL
One thing I actually admire about the warrior cats fandom is that the fans seem to not make ocs then put them into the already existing story, but they make their whole own story and characters based around the books which is quite interesting to me
Normal fandom behavior tbh
Honestly it's pretty fun to read the ideas the fandom comes up with when they do that. Interesting clan concepts, sometimes better consistency, just fun stuff.
U should check out Rainbott then
yeah, for long-term fans we've found the more recent books a little boring so we end up making our own books
that reminds me of Danganronpa's fandom
man. im 18 and regretting not reading warrior cats as a kid bc i know for a FACT that i wouldve been absolutely hooked on it
nepeta pfp
shiver pfp
Read it noe
Now*
Never too late! Just started reading the series as a 23 yr old and I am flying through them
Y’all know the bramble is abusive discourse? Yeah. I feel like that, spottedleaf being groomed, and draikonator were the most dramatic things in fandom
Oof you must be an OG to remember that guy
and the warriors wiki eye color discourse lmao
holy fuck i forgot about draik
@@c3ru1ean41 what did they do again? I missed the drama
@@mmmm-lg2mj pretty sure they sent nsfw stuff to a minor n other stuff but it's been a while so I'm probably not the best to get drama info from and knowing my memory I could be wrong or forgetting things they did
Even as an outsider Its insane how animators that go from making warrior cats animations to other animations can nail animal anatomy and how they move so well
I got bullied SO HARD for reading these books but I literally was so obsessed it was insane. I got cat figures for christmas when I was 8 because I wanted to make youtube videos about warriors but couldnt draw for shit. I roleplayed on the SSS Warrior Cats forum and would spend HOURS on there talking to people and literally convinced myself I was going to be an author because I just loved writing warrior cats stories so much. This was back in like 2009 and I outgrew the series probably by 2013 and I had NO CLUE people were still this into it! This video is so so good, brought so much back. I just remember being so obsessed with Jayfeather lmao
Did you finish all the books?
@@Alexis-sf1ie omg no i definitely stopped around the fourth or fifth series i think? but i definitely read at least half of them.
I just would like to say that the warrior cats fandom gave birth to my favorite Tumblr post of all time, a discussion about what is an acceptable age gap between cats if you would like to ship them. The phrase cat age gaps makes me laugh at least once a week. They were like “I think three years is acceptable, because they’re cats” and the responder was like “yeah that sounds right. Any lower then that would be wrong” and I just think it’s objectively funny.
In fairness, that's like a 20 year age gap in human years.
@@kayleighbrown459 True ngl
tbh the authors did say they were just writing tiny furry humans at that point, so take that as you will
Brb I’m going to tell all my neighbour’s cats that they’re problematic and going to jail.
What a time to be alive :)
I feel like the amount of Garfield plushies increasing in every video is like a cryptic SCP slowly coming to fruition
you could almost say
its like a clan
An army
He grows stronger
Get the MTF we got multiple instances of SCP-3166 on our hands
The more Garfield plushies she gets, the stronger Garfield will become.
We seriously need a Fallen Leaves super edition.
He has so much potential as a character but was completely abandoned by the Erins after Hollyleaf's Story and (as far as I remember) was never even included in a main series. I'm so confused by his lore.
this his so insanely real
I first found the Warrior Cats series at my local library as a 13 year old... I'm now 24 and I still adore the series and reread the entire collection often. I've never felt so much emotion for a story of imaginary wild cats. I always cried so much when one passed away.. Part of my email is a shout out to Cinderpelt, best medicine cat ever!!
i cried too ;-;;
I feel youuuuu
Love the validation for “cringy” fan girls that this video gives. We need more of that in the world
Fangirls are cringe and that’s completely fine
Cringe culture is dying and I'm so glad. A lot of it was adults and older teens basically shaming younger teens and kids for being passionate about a fandom.
@@nxgan1088 It’s ironic because most likely at least half of those people doing the shaming were like them before.
@@mysryuza I feel like some of it might be like a protective thing? Like showing that you're better because you've grown up and out of it even though that passion is mostly harmless.
It seems like anything that isn't super serious and for adults risks being called 'cringe' and I hate it. Let people enjoy things! Unless they're being toxic with their fandoms, leave them alone!
God, the ‘Warrior Cats is like the Dream SMP’ drama was so fucking funny, because the og post was literally just comparing the two storylines in a lighthearted manner and so many people got genuinely pissed over it. Twas a fun few days on Twitter
me and some friends started an SMP on a small twitch streamer's discord (because he didnt have an official SMP, and we wanted everyone to be able to hang out on an MC server), but a dumbass dream fan thought SMP was a term started by dream and he accused us of stealing Dream's ideas.
@@sophiaccore STOP i hate that so much.....people need to go watch hermitcraft and educate themselves.
@@sophiaccore
to be fair I thought the term started with SMPlive
-I still don’t actually know what it stands for-
@@thatoneguy9582 survival multi player
As both a Warriors and DSMP fan (see my pfp and username lol) I thought it was kinda funny
There is also Russian warriors game called "Catwar". It’s literally a massive weird mmo with 2D graphics and role play. It was peak popular in 2016 but is up to this day. You should check it out at least to see what a phenomenon ru fandom has left