Women Sports Commentators Are TERRIBLE - Joey Barton
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- Joey Barton is an ex-football (soccer) player who speaks out about diversity hires in sports who are costing deserving former players opportunities. As seen on Triggernometry with Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin, and James English.
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I'm having to mute the coverage of the 2024 Euros because of these female pundits.. Why can't they just stick to the women's game
because higher ups want to destroy and ruin everything that men like
Why can't you just grow up!
@kentzu1975 What is disliking having to listen to sub standards commentary because mainstream media want to tick boxes with having female pundits got to do with growing up... ?
@@kentzu1975why can’t you tolerate someone else’s point of view?
As a rugby fan, I actually like the women's game. The female players are damn good. But I cannot STAND to listen to women's commentary: their voices are too screechy and too high, especially when they get excited, which is a lot more than the male commentators.
Can't men have anything anymore? Leave us alone, let us be, put a sock in it, etc etc
Couldn’t agree more with Joey.
That's a bad place to be in.
Hope you life has looked up in the last 5 months 😂
Spot on Joey … telling the truth is very challenging for the progressive types
@@TheHendoncat What are you then a progressive moron?
He's right, and everyone knows it. Even my wife and daughter agree.
They don't exist.
I run for the mute button when you hear female commentators.
Your daughter understands this.
Its pathetic and embarrasing .I press the mute when they commentate
I stream the match from a foreign country
I’d rather listen to Arabic commentators who I can’t even understand
@@redpillras3456 bert to fred back to bert ,throw in,goal kick.look how good that player is.yellow card etc etc yawn yawn
@@redpillras3456What if they were Arabic women?
@@utv5490 Arabia doesn't do nonsense like this and never will 🤣
fare play to joey for saying what most of the ex players and commentators think but are afraid of saying it for losing their jobs.
I used to enjoy watching the banter on Soccer Saturday with Geoff and his middle aged white mates. It was entertaining and informative. Then, all of a sudden, they were replaced in an effort to spread equality and diversity . I had never seen anything so boring in my life. It was like listening to Harry give a speech on wellbeing.
yep the wimminz are most uninteresting people to listen to most of the time especially when they talk about something they really know f all
It’s about time somebody told it as it is. I’ve not really much time for Joey Barton but he’s spot on here. I’m also sick and tired of being told that I have to like womens football ball and that, if I don’t then I’m an dinosaur. Let’s have it right women’s football is shite!
Even woman's national team are at best playing at school boy level. They have not had the experiences to pundit on the man's game.
This is fallacy. This the laziest misogynistic argument ever. You don’t need to have experience to pundit on something. We all have eyes. We all know what players are good and what how the game is played, I also played the game myself at a high level so by your own logic barely any guys can chat to me since I have more experience than most men having opinions on the game right now.
Most men did not play the game at a high level but still pundit on the game. So not only are you a hypocrite, but you yourself are also engaging in the same identity politics you claim to hate. A woman cannot pundit on the men’s game because she doesn’t not have “experience” but yet white males can have opinions on women’s football and entire groups of people despite they themselves not having that unique experience of what it is to be a woman and play high level sport.
The irony and hypocrisy is immense but typical coming from a straight white male. And this entire comment will go over your head since you weren’t taught to do self reflection because of, you know, white privilege.
schoolboys routinely beat women's national team sides
Mate your being kind giving them that level.
@@j4bee768 they regularly beat school boys though and academy players
@@yamiscape Can you imagine if the game was physical like in the 80s . School boys have not grown up yet . The women have experience. My whole view is why force it on the mens sports channels. No one watches it . Even woman .
Name 1 female who has actually played male football? I switch off as soon as I hear any female commentating or acting as an expert on male football, zero credibility to be speaking on a game they have never played!!!
well some of them have played against schoolboys and lost spectacularly
I love listening to the thick cun*s in my local talking about how shi* at football women are. They hate the black ones the most.
Not often I agree with joey Barton but can’t argue with him here like
At last, I am not the only male who has been saying just this ever since wimmin started commentating on Mens’ Professional Football. All of them seem to have studied the Johnathan Pearce Handbook of commentating, which in itself is a meltdown of a drunken fan of the terraces and a South American hysterical and excitable parody from 1980. One in particular sounds as if a recording of Pearce has been slightly sped up or a dose of helium has been ingested.
I wonder how shrill the outcry would be of Micah Richard’s and Ian Wright exclusively covered the female game?
Jonathan Pearce is the worst football commentator over the last fifty years. Would love to know How he got the gig!
So spot on here Barton 😂 . I will say though some of the women are better ..rarely , sometimes they say give compelling analysises.
Fair play to joey for being a man and speaking up.
Being a man. 😂😂😂😂
Jacqui Oatley is the worst of them all. The fact she is an MBE is probably Why she keeps the gig.
The shear screeching audio that woman commentary is , should be reason enough to keep women away from the commentary booth .
Yeah you just hate women. For the rest of us that don’t hate women it’s fine. I’m straight so I love listening to women’s voices commentating over my favourite sport. I think you need a government bureau to come rescue you the way you’re trapped so deep in that closet. Also it’s “sheer” not “shear” you absolute plonker
For the rest of us that don’t hate women it’s fine. I’m straight so I love listening to women’s voices commentating over my favourite sport. I think you need a government bureau to come rescue you the way you’re trapped so deep in that closet. Also it’s “sheer” not “shear” you absolute plonker
Yeah you just hate women. For the rest of us that don’t hate women it’s fine. I’m straight so I love listening to women’s voices commentating over my favourite sport. I think you need a government bureau to come rescue you the way you’re trapped so deep in that closet. Also it’s “sheer” not “shear” you absolute plonker
when your tools for the job are your voice, your personality and your command of football they fail miserably at every facet not one is able to do it properly
Problem with this argument is that the vast majority of all pundits are dire. I literally don’t know anyone who watches MOTD anymore. It should be renamed ‘Ian Wright and Dion Dublin describe what they see’. Only some of the Sky guys actually do analysis. I don’t need someone to say ‘good finish’ when someone scores from 20 yards. I know it was a good finish.
I completely agree with that. That said, I still prefer ex-footballers in the mens' game or other sports as such to comment on the sport: They have done it and at least some of them can talk about the game with experience and knowledge and delivery.
Finally it's also about the criteria as opposed to just the output: The criteria imho should be the best fit for the game and ex-players are being sidelined for a poltical agenda that dictates pushing women commentators at best on grounds of they can do the job and worse that there's something wrong about the men because they're not women and so on that descends into madness. It's just toxic as opposed to what both most fans want and what is fair for the expertise and experience. Naturally for the womens' game, let the women comment who played with those other woman etc!
Very brave of Joey to speak the truth.
Women cannot commentate. It's ruining football.
Even my wife hates listening to woman commentators who because they played for Man u womans ect, equivalent to park football think they understand prem Football.
We need the ‘Joey’ button. Press and all irrelevant commentators are muted.
as much as you want to ignore him he's absolutely correct calling the wimminz out
Joey is spot on. Female commentators don't have the right voice for commentary, they're far too high pitched. As for the pundits, he's right, they can't comment on a game they've not played the level at. Even if you don't agree with the likes of Redknapp, Richards, Carragher etc, at least you know they're talking from experience
Why don't the women's champions play the Premier league champions in a game at the end of the season..with a massive purse for the winner...and more money given to the team who concede the least and score the most! I'd predict maybe 50-0 to the men....hopefully this would bring an end to the nonsense that is women's football.
Why would women play against men in an end of season game? People like you that say these illogical things do it because you hate women. You would want a nonsensical waste of time match to be set up just to see women lose or be “put in their place” because you’re not in a position to do it yourself.
It’s coming from emotion and resentment towards women. And that hatred of women spills over into everything they do. There’s no other reason why women’s football, played by women and promoted by women, would bother you this much such that you’d want it to be banned lmao like what they’re doing isn’t illegal.
Why would women play against men in an end of season game? People like you that say these illogical things do it because you hate women. You would want a nonsensical waste of time match to be set up just to see women lose or be “put in their place” because you’re not in a position to do it yourself.
It’s coming from emotion and resentment towards women. And that hatred of women spills over into everything they do. There’s no other reason why women’s football, played by women and promoted by women, would bother you this much such that you’d want it to be banned lmao like what they’re doing isn’t illegal.
Totally agree with Joey..What he has said is what everyone is thinking and hes got the balls to say it 👏👏👏
Barton is 100% spot on.
Commented on this before, and, will do it again, but, they have no idea of men's football, however, the women are now complaining that there's too many men involved in coaching women's football, total hypocrisy.
just let them coach themselves since they seem to "know better'" don't they
Having played premiership football doesn't automatically make someone a good commentator. Most ex-players would probably admit as much. Hiring because the optics are fashionable is a betrayal of the fans.
the ex players are mostly pundits not commentators for example - Lee dixon, Danny murphy, Shearer. etc.
Nobody is making that point, Barton explained it pretty well. It's a societal issue
yes and the women are hired only for the woke optics (and to ruin it for men) they have none of the tools to be good commentators
They're not the "commentator" though, that's a job for someone who's just excellent at describing the actions of the field, regardless of football experience. They are given the "co-commentator" role which is reserved for ex players to give insight into the game. Joey is right, they have never played at that level, so how can they give insight?
@@danieleventhal3848 OK pundits then. It's still a valid point .
When you listen to Barton speak with intelligence and insight, it’s really hard to level that with some of his behaviour.
OPINION WE ARE ENTITLED TO IT AND 100% agree with Mr Barton!
I'm just glad I watch all of my football through dodgy illegal streaming sites. For one thing it costs nothing, but more often than not, I'll actually end up watching American broadcasts on NBC or Peacock because they get to show the 3pm Saturday kick-offs that we're *(STILL)* not allowed to watch over here in England.
Now sure, they do have a woman hosting in Rebecca Lowe, she's fine, she's good at what she does, but then they'll have male pundits in the studio like Robbie Earle, Robbie Mustoe and Tim Howard. Men who have played at the highest level and know what they're talking about.
Not only that, but all the commentators during the match will be men, and they're always recognizable English commentators (like John Champion and Peter Drury) who can't get employment over here anymore because their jobs have been taken over by the likes of Sue Smith and Lucy Ward.
Give me that any day of the week. I'd much rather listen to Robbie Earle and Tim Howard than Karen 'face-like-a-slapped-arse' Carney or Eni 'professional victim' Aluko!
He is spot on! They are awful.
100% correct
I live in China so I get the direct Premier League broadcast for about £20 a year (every single match is available) with English commentary, half time documentaries etc. IT IS SO MUCH BETTER. No politics, no pundits, just the match and no female ex footballers, usually an ex local player for co commentator (Dave Edwards for Wolves, Andy Townsend etc) and the leads are all men, none of those awful MOTD ones who sound awful. The only good female commentator is Jacqui Oatley, others are like nails on a chalkboard.
Women`s voices as commentators just give me a headache.Too piercing man. Remember that line in the Dayoh song ? But our best male commentator was sent to jail . He was a really good commentator though .eg "Berbatov --over on the wing--Loitering --Smouldering--Cogitating".Priceless stuff.
Totally agree with him even my wife says it doesn’t sound correct but don’t bring colour into it, it’s the main streams media way of bowing down and allowing women into our game it should be kept separate so colour means nothing
I think he’s right.
It's not about them being women. The men's game and the women's game are different in many ways. Players from the Women's game just don't understand men's football so they make themselves look silly when they say things that make no sense in the men's game. (Yes it's all football but it is incredibly different
He’s right, the shrieking when anything happens 😮no one needs that
Well said Joey,spot on!! 👍👏👏👏
Totally agree and so will most male pundits , but are too scared to speak their mind
And yet Isa Guha is one of the best cricket commentators!!
Yes she’s excellent, so is Alex Hartley.
Early tv commentors in black and white---" And ---Goal!" That covered the move or the free kick . Kenneth Wolstenholme .Better because he left long gaps . Tv should have a crowd noise only channel . Just burn some acrid tobacco in an ashtray to get the right atmosphere . A brass band on the pitch beforehand with Semper Fidelis or Abide with me .Lovely . "Oh look --There`s a woman in the crowd ".
Peter Drury, Clive Tyldesley, John Motson, Jonathan Pearce etc. Some of the top commentators of the last 30 years are men who never played the game. So yeah, if youre gonna say ex pro women shouldn't commentate because they didnt play the men's game, its nonsense. Commentating is not playing football, the skillset is completely different. Michael owen being the obvious example of an excellent player who cannot commentate very well.
The best thing about a dodgy box is the number of channels, you can usually get one without women commentators.
before they didn't have any so no reason to switch channels - in the near future they will make sure that switching channels will not do it either anymore
This is a great interview….Joey is spot on. Women can’t play at the same level of intensity and power. There would be broken legs all over the place, and they wouldn’t be men’s……..stick to your own game and get a job commentating on merit not choice by managent.
I think we should have more ex goalkeepers as pundits. The only former goalkeeper I see regularly is Shaka Hislop. I've seen Brad Friedel as a pundit before as well. A lot of former outfield players do give unqualified opinions of goalkeeping.
I miss the banter of men who have played in the same leagues and possibly played against or with each other or even just know somebody who has, the women are like outsiders and it feels like they can't have the same craic when they're there.
The funny thing Joey lad is these people hurling abuse at you over the internet would never dream of saying it to your face, mate. The internet is full of opinionated soft wimps.
well it's not really only about merit but also personality question and women rarely are entertaining personalities in the sense football demands plus as for commenting the game itself I've never heard any of them saying anything properly insightful or profound about football
Well said joey 👍👍
Make a note of the guy's name interviewing Barton. When the political landscape changes significantly, and oh man it will, he will be judged very badly and very severely.
It's a sign of our blind slip into a Stalinists type state.
Me and a colleague had many conversations about muting the TV or not bothering with the match analysis when it's woman commentators.
Same colleague was on Facebook using terms like "misogynist" and "caveman" about Joey's opinion at the time......
Terrified of speaking his mind to the crowd, you can see people like Keane cringe when he's on with women but knows it's over if he spoke his mind.
All this women stuff within the men's game is why I've gone off sport honestly it's to mental any more I'd rather not watch at all fair play to Joey his definitely saying what the silent majority are thinking
It is the same for rugby, more so the lack of relatable experience and point of view significantly attributed by the frustrating high pitched voice .
Honestly the women are amazing presenters. Mostly better than the guys. But if the teams playing are men’s football at the highest level, then the expert opinions should be of players that played to a similar level. Baffling how that is controversial.
"We are trying to defeat misogyny and sexism."
😅😂😅😂😅😂
Yes valid points. That said some male pundits are awful. They give no more insight to the game than I could. And, you see some ex lower league male pros commenting on the women’s game and that seems odd too. I suppose you could argue that tennis commentators are mixed genders and that generally works. As regards commentary, as being distinct from Co-commentary or punditry, alot of it is about the voice. Robyn Cowen is a good commentator and this is in part due to her having a slightly richer voice than some of the more screechy types, who are unlistenable.
Some of the women actually have good insight on commentary, but their voices are just not designed for it. That's just showbiz, their voices are an audio attack on the senses.
Read some of the comments and I'm glad I'm not alone. But just to let you know how bad I have it, I live in New Zealand and often for Rugby, League, soccer and cricket I have to listen to AUSTRALIAN WOMEN so when you are sitting in the UK moaning about the W factor just remember there are some a lot worse off!
Agree... spot on.
Spot on Joe. Speak your mind, we love you for it.
Didnt like him as a player and i speak as a rangers fan but he is 100% right about this.
So how come a few gay females commentate on the men’s game but no males commentate on the female game
Whos watching women's soccer because men don't watch it and women certainly don't watch it
Kelly cates, Gabby Logan Vicky Gomersal. Got loads of time for Hayley Mc as well. Know their stuff and arre so professional.
Not commentators though are they
They're presenters, not analysts.
Spot on . Women should stick to their own game.
Joey Barton thinks he’s more intelligent than he actually is ….
When you're in a privileged position your whole life equality feels like oppression
Couldnt agree more why dont we just get league 2 professionals in cos they would spank the womans teams everywhere
they especially Vickie Sparkes are killing the game..
99.999 per cent agree with him!!!
It's gone beyond a joke. Always liked a lot of female presenters but having female pundits commenting on men's football at the highest level is just crazy. Have woman talk about the woman's game and leave the men to talk about the men's game. Simple
Give me a choice between a Monet and a Barton, I know which one I choose. Nobody listens to pundits half the time anyway.
No women, McManaman or Michael Owen 😂
Man, I thought it was only me. I can't put my finger on exactly why but they seem kinda dumb about the game.
I wouldn’t mind so much if they were charismatic but they aren’t.
I don't like the fella but he's right. Most of them are dross.
He's the thing, if anyone commenting here has a daughter or sister, she comes home and says " Dad, BBC, Sky etc etc, want to pay me a HUGE amount of money for my opinion and commentary" would you tell her "No, that's not your place" or say " Bite their arm off kiddo" Genuine question, i'm curious!
The worst female commentator is a thousand times better than Martin Tyler.
Women commentators are abysmal 🙈
I can’t even listen to to them and stream the match from a foreign country when they are on
Most of the female pundits are terrible also
A few good one (Kate Abdo Kelly dalgish Gabby Logan) but the rest are just annoying
They are terrible … but … not many of the guys do any research either. Many of the men are awful as well
1000% agree Joey
Women cant commentate...i cant iron ...we all have our floors
If you agree with Joey you’re a misogynist. Easy to label people for their opinions. Personally, I’m not against female commentators or pundits, but they are not very good.
The only one ive found to know anything is Courtney Sweetnam Kirk.
He’s right 🤷🏻♂️
Some of the male pundits are also *awful*
So you would listen to a woman for two hours then ?
@@CoolMikey81 don’t think I said that… stop gaslighting.
Standard of football punditry as a whole is terrible. Carlton Cole can barely string a sentence together
He’s absolutely right
Facts > feelings
Football now is becoming boring and these women commenting is an embarrassment and I agree with Barton
He's quite right of course. No doubt about it
He's right.
It's like me watching a sas hostage rescue video and commenting how they could of done things better
Spot on
this guys the Sean Strickland version of football lol
I agree with Joey
How to you measure expert analysis? Because you’ve got some white, male, fantastic former players giving absolutely no insight or decent analysis of games.
Where’s joeys French accent gone??