@kentzu1975 What is disliking having to listen to sub standards commentary because mainstream media want to tick boxes with having female pundits got to do with growing up... ?
As a rugby fan, I actually like the women's game. The female players are damn good. But I cannot STAND to listen to women's commentary: their voices are too screechy and too high, especially when they get excited, which is a lot more than the male commentators.
Politics are ruining the game. The only reason you have all these broads calling games is because of politics. The same reason players were forced to take the knee for ST George
@utv5490 you sound left wing, just call him a fake and say no comment....women need to stay on the women's game, funny how they don't get Ex male pros on the women's game
Name 1 female who has actually played male football? I switch off as soon as I hear any female commentating or acting as an expert on male football, zero credibility to be speaking on a game they have never played!!!
Joey is spot on. Female commentators don't have the right voice for commentary, they're far too high pitched. As for the pundits, he's right, they can't comment on a game they've not played the level at. Even if you don't agree with the likes of Redknapp, Richards, Carragher etc, at least you know they're talking from experience
And joey…. Remind me how his career went? He speaks about things he never played in - sharp edge of champs league or winning the prem - by his own logic he shudnt be talking ablut these things eh???
@@apeddie9355 what you talking about yaa fucking plum. He never said people have to have won things to have an opinion. He said they should have had premier league experience to be able to have an opinion, therefore he does have a right because he was a PREMIER LEAGUE PLAYER 😂. Listen to what he’s saying instead of just being the retard you clearly are pal.
@apeddie9355 men and women's football are fundamentally different sports At least joey has played the male game When there's international teams like the men's English team losing to an u15s team, come back to me. Until then, pipe down.
It’s about time somebody told it as it is. I’ve not really much time for Joey Barton but he’s spot on here. I’m also sick and tired of being told that I have to like womens football ball and that, if I don’t then I’m an dinosaur. Let’s have it right women’s football is shite!
Yeah you just hate women. For the rest of us that don’t hate women it’s fine. I’m straight so I love listening to women’s voices commentating over my favourite sport. I think you need a government bureau to come rescue you the way you’re trapped so deep in that closet. Also it’s “sheer” not “shear” you absolute plonker
For the rest of us that don’t hate women it’s fine. I’m straight so I love listening to women’s voices commentating over my favourite sport. I think you need a government bureau to come rescue you the way you’re trapped so deep in that closet. Also it’s “sheer” not “shear” you absolute plonker
Yeah you just hate women. For the rest of us that don’t hate women it’s fine. I’m straight so I love listening to women’s voices commentating over my favourite sport. I think you need a government bureau to come rescue you the way you’re trapped so deep in that closet. Also it’s “sheer” not “shear” you absolute plonker
when your tools for the job are your voice, your personality and your command of football they fail miserably at every facet not one is able to do it properly
The legends John Motson, David Coleman and Brian Moore would be turning in their graves having to listen to these screaming banshee’s.👏👏👏👏👏well said Joey.
Even my wife hates listening to woman commentators who because they played for Man u womans ect, equivalent to park football think they understand prem Football.
I used to enjoy watching the banter on Soccer Saturday with Geoff and his middle aged white mates. It was entertaining and informative. Then, all of a sudden, they were replaced in an effort to spread equality and diversity . I had never seen anything so boring in my life. It was like listening to Harry give a speech on wellbeing.
@ojos_verdes76 yeah man..a brilliant show with ex pros who had banter and character...absolutely ruined it now...Merson Morrison are boring slobbering mongs
I'm just glad I watch all of my football through dodgy illegal streaming sites. For one thing it costs nothing, but more often than not, I'll actually end up watching American broadcasts on NBC or Peacock because they get to show the 3pm Saturday kick-offs that we're *(STILL)* not allowed to watch over here in England. Now sure, they do have a woman hosting in Rebecca Lowe, she's fine, she's good at what she does, but then they'll have male pundits in the studio like Robbie Earle, Robbie Mustoe and Tim Howard. Men who have played at the highest level and know what they're talking about. Not only that, but all the commentators during the match will be men, and they're always recognizable English commentators (like John Champion and Peter Drury) who can't get employment over here anymore because their jobs have been taken over by the likes of Sue Smith and Lucy Ward. Give me that any day of the week. I'd much rather listen to Robbie Earle and Tim Howard than Karen 'face-like-a-slapped-arse' Carney or Eni 'professional victim' Aluko!
At last, I am not the only male who has been saying just this ever since wimmin started commentating on Mens’ Professional Football. All of them seem to have studied the Johnathan Pearce Handbook of commentating, which in itself is a meltdown of a drunken fan of the terraces and a South American hysterical and excitable parody from 1980. One in particular sounds as if a recording of Pearce has been slightly sped up or a dose of helium has been ingested. I wonder how shrill the outcry would be of Micah Richard’s and Ian Wright exclusively covered the female game?
This is fallacy. This the laziest misogynistic argument ever. You don’t need to have experience to pundit on something. We all have eyes. We all know what players are good and what how the game is played, I also played the game myself at a high level so by your own logic barely any guys can chat to me since I have more experience than most men having opinions on the game right now. Most men did not play the game at a high level but still pundit on the game. So not only are you a hypocrite, but you yourself are also engaging in the same identity politics you claim to hate. A woman cannot pundit on the men’s game because she doesn’t not have “experience” but yet white males can have opinions on women’s football and entire groups of people despite they themselves not having that unique experience of what it is to be a woman and play high level sport. The irony and hypocrisy is immense but typical coming from a straight white male. And this entire comment will go over your head since you weren’t taught to do self reflection because of, you know, white privilege.
@@yamiscape Can you imagine if the game was physical like in the 80s . School boys have not grown up yet . The women have experience. My whole view is why force it on the mens sports channels. No one watches it . Even woman .
Having played premiership football doesn't automatically make someone a good commentator. Most ex-players would probably admit as much. Hiring because the optics are fashionable is a betrayal of the fans.
They're not the "commentator" though, that's a job for someone who's just excellent at describing the actions of the field, regardless of football experience. They are given the "co-commentator" role which is reserved for ex players to give insight into the game. Joey is right, they have never played at that level, so how can they give insight?
Why don't the women's champions play the Premier league champions in a game at the end of the season..with a massive purse for the winner...and more money given to the team who concede the least and score the most! I'd predict maybe 50-0 to the men....hopefully this would bring an end to the nonsense that is women's football.
Why would women play against men in an end of season game? People like you that say these illogical things do it because you hate women. You would want a nonsensical waste of time match to be set up just to see women lose or be “put in their place” because you’re not in a position to do it yourself. It’s coming from emotion and resentment towards women. And that hatred of women spills over into everything they do. There’s no other reason why women’s football, played by women and promoted by women, would bother you this much such that you’d want it to be banned lmao like what they’re doing isn’t illegal.
Why would women play against men in an end of season game? People like you that say these illogical things do it because you hate women. You would want a nonsensical waste of time match to be set up just to see women lose or be “put in their place” because you’re not in a position to do it yourself. It’s coming from emotion and resentment towards women. And that hatred of women spills over into everything they do. There’s no other reason why women’s football, played by women and promoted by women, would bother you this much such that you’d want it to be banned lmao like what they’re doing isn’t illegal.
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The same would happen if male tennis players played women at tennis or any other sport.
I was watching the Euros in the summer, France v Spain or Germany was on, can't remember which, and every single English channel had a woman commentating. Eventually found a french channel that was showing it. Hadn't a clue what they were saying but it was still way better 😂
Commented on this before, and, will do it again, but, they have no idea of men's football, however, the women are now complaining that there's too many men involved in coaching women's football, total hypocrisy.
Problem with this argument is that the vast majority of all pundits are dire. I literally don’t know anyone who watches MOTD anymore. It should be renamed ‘Ian Wright and Dion Dublin describe what they see’. Only some of the Sky guys actually do analysis. I don’t need someone to say ‘good finish’ when someone scores from 20 yards. I know it was a good finish.
I completely agree with that. That said, I still prefer ex-footballers in the mens' game or other sports as such to comment on the sport: They have done it and at least some of them can talk about the game with experience and knowledge and delivery. Finally it's also about the criteria as opposed to just the output: The criteria imho should be the best fit for the game and ex-players are being sidelined for a poltical agenda that dictates pushing women commentators at best on grounds of they can do the job and worse that there's something wrong about the men because they're not women and so on that descends into madness. It's just toxic as opposed to what both most fans want and what is fair for the expertise and experience. Naturally for the womens' game, let the women comment who played with those other woman etc!
Some of the women actually have good insight on commentary, but their voices are just not designed for it. That's just showbiz, their voices are an audio attack on the senses.
It’s about time we got real. Screeching women can’t commentate, Women’s football is unwatchable, goalkeepers are crap. How much longer do we have to pretend it’s the greatest thing since sliced bread.
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Women are less tall than men, have shorter arms, smaller hands and can't jump as high. That's why they aren't as good at goal-keeping. Within those limitations, some of them are pretty good.
It's a sign of our blind slip into a Stalinists type state. Me and a colleague had many conversations about muting the TV or not bothering with the match analysis when it's woman commentators. Same colleague was on Facebook using terms like "misogynist" and "caveman" about Joey's opinion at the time...... Terrified of speaking his mind to the crowd, you can see people like Keane cringe when he's on with women but knows it's over if he spoke his mind.
I live in China so I get the direct Premier League broadcast for about £20 a year (every single match is available) with English commentary, half time documentaries etc. IT IS SO MUCH BETTER. No politics, no pundits, just the match and no female ex footballers, usually an ex local player for co commentator (Dave Edwards for Wolves, Andy Townsend etc) and the leads are all men, none of those awful MOTD ones who sound awful. The only good female commentator is Jacqui Oatley, others are like nails on a chalkboard.
There is another point, having watched The Chile 1962 World Cup and the first MOTD in 1964 that whenever a Woman is on a panel as a guest they contribute little and kill the banter and humour. Watch NEXT week's WSL Highlights on Sunday and whoever the Presenter is that week will ask the first question and EVERY time the guest responds with "Yes/Yeah" and/ir "Definitely". It's like they hate confrontation and arguments so much they do not like to publicly disagree,In the last 60+ sporting years,I can't remember one really interesting conversation between 2 women going back and forth. There are a few excellent Women like Gabby Logan and Clare Balding but who else?
I recall one world cup group game where they had three female pundits in the studio. It was weird, because even though it was a minor game, they talked about it like people were actually interested in watching the game, actually analysing what had happened, and discussing the match. It was like they hadn't got the memo that during game like that, they were meant to to talk briefly about the game, making jokey references to nobody really caring about the match, and fill the rest of the time with matey banter and talk about England. In truth, the problem isn't about male or female. It's about why pundits are chosen. The male pundits are picked because they are famous and/or controversial, not for any inherent ability to provide analysis. Most are terrible, but don't realise it, and nor do the tv companies. That's why MotD has gone from being a football highlights show to being a football discussion show.
Whatever Joey says I'm in agreement with it, he's insightful and bang-on with his opinions which will inevitably upset the woke-folk .....long may it continue.
Women commentators are abysmal 🙈 I can’t even listen to to them and stream the match from a foreign country when they are on Most of the female pundits are terrible also A few good one (Kate Abdo Kelly dalgish Gabby Logan) but the rest are just annoying
The funny thing Joey lad is these people hurling abuse at you over the internet would never dream of saying it to your face, mate. The internet is full of opinionated soft wimps.
before they didn't have any so no reason to switch channels - in the near future they will make sure that switching channels will not do it either anymore
This is a great interview….Joey is spot on. Women can’t play at the same level of intensity and power. There would be broken legs all over the place, and they wouldn’t be men’s……..stick to your own game and get a job commentating on merit not choice by managent.
It's gone beyond a joke. Always liked a lot of female presenters but having female pundits commenting on men's football at the highest level is just crazy. Have woman talk about the woman's game and leave the men to talk about the men's game. Simple
It's not about them being women. The men's game and the women's game are different in many ways. Players from the Women's game just don't understand men's football so they make themselves look silly when they say things that make no sense in the men's game. (Yes it's all football but it is incredibly different
Women`s voices as commentators just give me a headache.Too piercing man. Remember that line in the Dayoh song ? But our best male commentator was sent to jail . He was a really good commentator though .eg "Berbatov --over on the wing--Loitering --Smouldering--Cogitating".Priceless stuff.
Joey is absolutely correct here. The big problem I have is how the women have been given these opportunities before men who have played in the lower leagues. I bet there's so many madly clued up football men in the lower divisions who would add far more quality than most of the women. Scandalous that we don't get to see their input.
Put it this way, if there were 2 options open to the viewer - one with ex Premier league players commentating and one with women commentating, well the viewing figures would completely back up what Joey is saying
Don’t always agree with what he has to say sometimes, but he’s spot on about this. if I’m honest I mute the sound when watching highlights as it makes my toes curl listening to their unqualified opinions
The wife walked out on a recent cricket broadcast when the women commentators came on for a men's international game. She doesn't mind the women's game, a little, but said when she's watching men, she wants men all around who know what it's about.
Early tv commentors in black and white---" And ---Goal!" That covered the move or the free kick . Kenneth Wolstenholme .Better because he left long gaps . Tv should have a crowd noise only channel . Just burn some acrid tobacco in an ashtray to get the right atmosphere . A brass band on the pitch beforehand with Semper Fidelis or Abide with me .Lovely . "Oh look --There`s a woman in the crowd ".
I miss the banter of men who have played in the same leagues and possibly played against or with each other or even just know somebody who has, the women are like outsiders and it feels like they can't have the same craic when they're there.
What's even worse is American Soccer commentators, using half the terms from American Football, The US should stick to running with ball in hand until they are mentally mature like us Europeans 😂
Rugby is doing it as well..and there isn't a woman alive who knows what it's like to play professional men's rugby. International women's teams would struggle against amateur men's teams. Just a fact. Especially in rugby!
Totally agree with him even my wife says it doesn’t sound correct but don’t bring colour into it, it’s the main streams media way of bowing down and allowing women into our game it should be kept separate so colour means nothing
Would these broadcasters have league 2 or nationwide league male pundits on top level football? Of course they wouldn't, nobody would be remotely interested in anything they had to say. So why do they think people want to hear from women footballers who play at a level far below 4th and 5th tier men's football? Gender doesn't even come into it, it's the direct connection between the pundit and the fact he played at the same level of the game he's talking about
Perfectly reasonable. I often have to mute the HT break otherwise a slipper is going through the telly at the inane drivel by those who i would personally run rings around on a pitch
well it's not really only about merit but also personality question and women rarely are entertaining personalities in the sense football demands plus as for commenting the game itself I've never heard any of them saying anything properly insightful or profound about football
I think we should have more ex goalkeepers as pundits. The only former goalkeeper I see regularly is Shaka Hislop. I've seen Brad Friedel as a pundit before as well. A lot of former outfield players do give unqualified opinions of goalkeeping.
Hit like, and let me know what you think of Barton's comments below. Watch the full interview: ruclips.net/video/NDzApBv5lbs/видео.html
Can't men have anything anymore? Leave us alone, let us be, put a sock in it, etc etc
I'm having to mute the coverage of the 2024 Euros because of these female pundits.. Why can't they just stick to the women's game
because higher ups want to destroy and ruin everything that men like
Why can't you just grow up!
@kentzu1975 What is disliking having to listen to sub standards commentary because mainstream media want to tick boxes with having female pundits got to do with growing up... ?
@@kentzu1975why can’t you tolerate someone else’s point of view?
As a rugby fan, I actually like the women's game. The female players are damn good. But I cannot STAND to listen to women's commentary: their voices are too screechy and too high, especially when they get excited, which is a lot more than the male commentators.
Women cannot commentate. It's ruining football.
lol that's a bit of an overstatement.
@@khylelewisHe's right though
I instantly turn the volume down...
Which then I realise I like the commentators at high levels. The women are just loud at odd times and talk s h i t
Politics are ruining the game. The only reason you have all these broads calling games is because of politics. The same reason players were forced to take the knee for ST George
He's right, and everyone knows it. Even my wife and daughter agree.
They don't exist.
@utv5490 you sound left wing, just call him a fake and say no comment....women need to stay on the women's game, funny how they don't get Ex male pros on the women's game
@@utv5490neither do Joey's then I guess you idiot. 😅
@@utv5490 how do you know they don’t exist?
My wife, mother,mother in law, sister,sister in law, auntie, 2 nieces and 4 great nieces all agree with Joey.
Name 1 female who has actually played male football? I switch off as soon as I hear any female commentating or acting as an expert on male football, zero credibility to be speaking on a game they have never played!!!
well some of them have played against schoolboys and lost spectacularly
I love listening to the thick cun*s in my local talking about how shi* at football women are. They hate the black ones the most.
@tonycaniggia and but can talk about the best league in the world arguably
@@tonycaniggia🤣🤣🤣🤣 didn't they have to suspend the game at half-time? I'd rather watch a TV that's switched off.
Spot on Joey … telling the truth is very challenging for the progressive types
@@TheHendoncat What are you then a progressive moron?
Taking life advice from someone convicted of beating people up and whose brother is a racist murderer... Not exactly the best look, mate.
Jacqui Oatley is the worst of them all. The fact she is an MBE is probably Why she keeps the gig.
Fair play to joey for being a man and speaking up.
Being a man. 😂😂😂😂
Joey is spot on. Female commentators don't have the right voice for commentary, they're far too high pitched. As for the pundits, he's right, they can't comment on a game they've not played the level at. Even if you don't agree with the likes of Redknapp, Richards, Carragher etc, at least you know they're talking from experience
Couldn’t agree more with Joey.
That's a bad place to be in.
Hope you life has looked up in the last 5 months 😂
And joey…. Remind me how his career went? He speaks about things he never played in - sharp edge of champs league or winning the prem - by his own logic he shudnt be talking ablut these things eh???
@@apeddie9355 what you talking about yaa fucking plum. He never said people have to have won things to have an opinion. He said they should have had premier league experience to be able to have an opinion, therefore he does have a right because he was a PREMIER LEAGUE PLAYER 😂. Listen to what he’s saying instead of just being the retard you clearly are pal.
@apeddie9355 men and women's football are fundamentally different sports
At least joey has played the male game
When there's international teams like the men's English team losing to an u15s team, come back to me. Until then, pipe down.
@@shogun0810 Can you define the words "fundamentally", "different" and "sports"?
Until then, pipe down little man! 😂
fare play to joey for saying what most of the ex players and commentators think but are afraid of saying it for losing their jobs.
It’s about time somebody told it as it is. I’ve not really much time for Joey Barton but he’s spot on here. I’m also sick and tired of being told that I have to like womens football ball and that, if I don’t then I’m an dinosaur. Let’s have it right women’s football is shite!
It's better to watch a tv that's switched off than watch women's football,I'd rather watch men's netball.
The shear screeching audio that woman commentary is , should be reason enough to keep women away from the commentary booth .
Yeah you just hate women. For the rest of us that don’t hate women it’s fine. I’m straight so I love listening to women’s voices commentating over my favourite sport. I think you need a government bureau to come rescue you the way you’re trapped so deep in that closet. Also it’s “sheer” not “shear” you absolute plonker
For the rest of us that don’t hate women it’s fine. I’m straight so I love listening to women’s voices commentating over my favourite sport. I think you need a government bureau to come rescue you the way you’re trapped so deep in that closet. Also it’s “sheer” not “shear” you absolute plonker
Yeah you just hate women. For the rest of us that don’t hate women it’s fine. I’m straight so I love listening to women’s voices commentating over my favourite sport. I think you need a government bureau to come rescue you the way you’re trapped so deep in that closet. Also it’s “sheer” not “shear” you absolute plonker
when your tools for the job are your voice, your personality and your command of football they fail miserably at every facet not one is able to do it properly
Sounds like you've been listening to Julie Foudy.
The legends John Motson, David Coleman and Brian Moore would be turning in their graves having to listen to these screaming banshee’s.👏👏👏👏👏well said Joey.
Even my wife hates listening to woman commentators who because they played for Man u womans ect, equivalent to park football think they understand prem Football.
I used to enjoy watching the banter on Soccer Saturday with Geoff and his middle aged white mates. It was entertaining and informative. Then, all of a sudden, they were replaced in an effort to spread equality and diversity . I had never seen anything so boring in my life. It was like listening to Harry give a speech on wellbeing.
yep the wimminz are most uninteresting people to listen to most of the time especially when they talk about something they really know f all
Cos they could all take a joke and have a laugh.
I haven't managed to get through 5 minutes since they changed the line up.
@ojos_verdes76 yeah man..a brilliant show with ex pros who had banter and character...absolutely ruined it now...Merson Morrison are boring slobbering mongs
Its pathetic and embarrasing .I press the mute when they commentate
I stream the match from a foreign country
I’d rather listen to Arabic commentators who I can’t even understand
@@redpillras3456 bert to fred back to bert ,throw in,goal kick.look how good that player is.yellow card etc etc yawn yawn
@@redpillras3456What if they were Arabic women?
@@utv5490 Arabia doesn't do nonsense like this and never will 🤣
@@redpillras3456no, most of Arabia pray to a nonce called Muhammad, now that's Nonsense
I'm just glad I watch all of my football through dodgy illegal streaming sites. For one thing it costs nothing, but more often than not, I'll actually end up watching American broadcasts on NBC or Peacock because they get to show the 3pm Saturday kick-offs that we're *(STILL)* not allowed to watch over here in England.
Now sure, they do have a woman hosting in Rebecca Lowe, she's fine, she's good at what she does, but then they'll have male pundits in the studio like Robbie Earle, Robbie Mustoe and Tim Howard. Men who have played at the highest level and know what they're talking about.
Not only that, but all the commentators during the match will be men, and they're always recognizable English commentators (like John Champion and Peter Drury) who can't get employment over here anymore because their jobs have been taken over by the likes of Sue Smith and Lucy Ward.
Give me that any day of the week. I'd much rather listen to Robbie Earle and Tim Howard than Karen 'face-like-a-slapped-arse' Carney or Eni 'professional victim' Aluko!
At last, I am not the only male who has been saying just this ever since wimmin started commentating on Mens’ Professional Football. All of them seem to have studied the Johnathan Pearce Handbook of commentating, which in itself is a meltdown of a drunken fan of the terraces and a South American hysterical and excitable parody from 1980. One in particular sounds as if a recording of Pearce has been slightly sped up or a dose of helium has been ingested.
I wonder how shrill the outcry would be of Micah Richard’s and Ian Wright exclusively covered the female game?
Jonathan Pearce is the worst football commentator over the last fifty years. Would love to know How he got the gig!
So spot on here Barton 😂 . I will say though some of the women are better ..rarely , sometimes they say give compelling analysises.
I run for the mute button when you hear female commentators.
Your daughter understands this.
@@utv5490if she has any sense.
I turn it over!!. Although it's the same sport it's at a totally different level.
@@utv5490she should. The standard of women's football is shocking.
No you don’t.
Very brave of Joey to speak the truth.
Even woman's national team are at best playing at school boy level. They have not had the experiences to pundit on the man's game.
This is fallacy. This the laziest misogynistic argument ever. You don’t need to have experience to pundit on something. We all have eyes. We all know what players are good and what how the game is played, I also played the game myself at a high level so by your own logic barely any guys can chat to me since I have more experience than most men having opinions on the game right now.
Most men did not play the game at a high level but still pundit on the game. So not only are you a hypocrite, but you yourself are also engaging in the same identity politics you claim to hate. A woman cannot pundit on the men’s game because she doesn’t not have “experience” but yet white males can have opinions on women’s football and entire groups of people despite they themselves not having that unique experience of what it is to be a woman and play high level sport.
The irony and hypocrisy is immense but typical coming from a straight white male. And this entire comment will go over your head since you weren’t taught to do self reflection because of, you know, white privilege.
schoolboys routinely beat women's national team sides
Mate your being kind giving them that level.
@@j4bee768 they regularly beat school boys though and academy players
@@yamiscape Can you imagine if the game was physical like in the 80s . School boys have not grown up yet . The women have experience. My whole view is why force it on the mens sports channels. No one watches it . Even woman .
Not often I agree with joey Barton but can’t argue with him here like
Totally agree with Joey..What he has said is what everyone is thinking and hes got the balls to say it 👏👏👏
OPINION WE ARE ENTITLED TO IT AND 100% agree with Mr Barton!
Having played premiership football doesn't automatically make someone a good commentator. Most ex-players would probably admit as much. Hiring because the optics are fashionable is a betrayal of the fans.
the ex players are mostly pundits not commentators for example - Lee dixon, Danny murphy, Shearer. etc.
Nobody is making that point, Barton explained it pretty well. It's a societal issue
yes and the women are hired only for the woke optics (and to ruin it for men) they have none of the tools to be good commentators
They're not the "commentator" though, that's a job for someone who's just excellent at describing the actions of the field, regardless of football experience. They are given the "co-commentator" role which is reserved for ex players to give insight into the game. Joey is right, they have never played at that level, so how can they give insight?
@@danieleventhal3848 OK pundits then. It's still a valid point .
Barton is 100% spot on.
Why don't the women's champions play the Premier league champions in a game at the end of the season..with a massive purse for the winner...and more money given to the team who concede the least and score the most! I'd predict maybe 50-0 to the men....hopefully this would bring an end to the nonsense that is women's football.
Why would women play against men in an end of season game? People like you that say these illogical things do it because you hate women. You would want a nonsensical waste of time match to be set up just to see women lose or be “put in their place” because you’re not in a position to do it yourself.
It’s coming from emotion and resentment towards women. And that hatred of women spills over into everything they do. There’s no other reason why women’s football, played by women and promoted by women, would bother you this much such that you’d want it to be banned lmao like what they’re doing isn’t illegal.
Why would women play against men in an end of season game? People like you that say these illogical things do it because you hate women. You would want a nonsensical waste of time match to be set up just to see women lose or be “put in their place” because you’re not in a position to do it yourself.
It’s coming from emotion and resentment towards women. And that hatred of women spills over into everything they do. There’s no other reason why women’s football, played by women and promoted by women, would bother you this much such that you’d want it to be banned lmao like what they’re doing isn’t illegal.
The same would happen if male tennis players played women at tennis or any other sport.
Women commentators is a definite no. They sound aweful and it's annoying when it's my team they commentate on because I have to mute volume lol
I was watching the Euros in the summer, France v Spain or Germany was on, can't remember which, and every single English channel had a woman commentating.
Eventually found a french channel that was showing it. Hadn't a clue what they were saying but it was still way better 😂
Commented on this before, and, will do it again, but, they have no idea of men's football, however, the women are now complaining that there's too many men involved in coaching women's football, total hypocrisy.
just let them coach themselves since they seem to "know better'" don't they
We need the ‘Joey’ button. Press and all irrelevant commentators are muted.
as much as you want to ignore him he's absolutely correct calling the wimminz out
He is spot on! They are awful.
Problem with this argument is that the vast majority of all pundits are dire. I literally don’t know anyone who watches MOTD anymore. It should be renamed ‘Ian Wright and Dion Dublin describe what they see’. Only some of the Sky guys actually do analysis. I don’t need someone to say ‘good finish’ when someone scores from 20 yards. I know it was a good finish.
I completely agree with that. That said, I still prefer ex-footballers in the mens' game or other sports as such to comment on the sport: They have done it and at least some of them can talk about the game with experience and knowledge and delivery.
Finally it's also about the criteria as opposed to just the output: The criteria imho should be the best fit for the game and ex-players are being sidelined for a poltical agenda that dictates pushing women commentators at best on grounds of they can do the job and worse that there's something wrong about the men because they're not women and so on that descends into madness. It's just toxic as opposed to what both most fans want and what is fair for the expertise and experience. Naturally for the womens' game, let the women comment who played with those other woman etc!
Fed up with annoying female commentators and pundits. Leave the men's game to the men.
When you listen to Barton speak with intelligence and insight, it’s really hard to level that with some of his behaviour.
Some of the women actually have good insight on commentary, but their voices are just not designed for it. That's just showbiz, their voices are an audio attack on the senses.
Totally agree and so will most male pundits , but are too scared to speak their mind
They will soon become "ex pundits"
So how come a few gay females commentate on the men’s game but no males commentate on the female game
It’s about time we got real. Screeching women can’t commentate, Women’s football is unwatchable, goalkeepers are crap. How much longer do we have to pretend it’s the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Women are less tall than men, have shorter arms, smaller hands and can't jump as high. That's why they aren't as good at goal-keeping. Within those limitations, some of them are pretty good.
Well said Joey,spot on!! 👍👏👏👏
It's a sign of our blind slip into a Stalinists type state.
Me and a colleague had many conversations about muting the TV or not bothering with the match analysis when it's woman commentators.
Same colleague was on Facebook using terms like "misogynist" and "caveman" about Joey's opinion at the time......
Terrified of speaking his mind to the crowd, you can see people like Keane cringe when he's on with women but knows it's over if he spoke his mind.
I live in China so I get the direct Premier League broadcast for about £20 a year (every single match is available) with English commentary, half time documentaries etc. IT IS SO MUCH BETTER. No politics, no pundits, just the match and no female ex footballers, usually an ex local player for co commentator (Dave Edwards for Wolves, Andy Townsend etc) and the leads are all men, none of those awful MOTD ones who sound awful. The only good female commentator is Jacqui Oatley, others are like nails on a chalkboard.
There is another point, having watched The Chile 1962 World Cup and the first MOTD in 1964 that whenever a Woman is on a panel as a guest they contribute little and kill the banter and humour. Watch NEXT week's WSL Highlights on Sunday and whoever the Presenter is that week will ask the first question and EVERY time the guest responds with "Yes/Yeah" and/ir "Definitely". It's like they hate confrontation and arguments so much they do not like to publicly disagree,In the last 60+ sporting years,I can't remember one really interesting conversation between 2 women going back and forth. There are a few excellent Women like Gabby Logan and Clare Balding but who else?
100% correct
I recall one world cup group game where they had three female pundits in the studio. It was weird, because even though it was a minor game, they talked about it like people were actually interested in watching the game, actually analysing what had happened, and discussing the match. It was like they hadn't got the memo that during game like that, they were meant to to talk briefly about the game, making jokey references to nobody really caring about the match, and fill the rest of the time with matey banter and talk about England.
In truth, the problem isn't about male or female. It's about why pundits are chosen. The male pundits are picked because they are famous and/or controversial, not for any inherent ability to provide analysis. Most are terrible, but don't realise it, and nor do the tv companies. That's why MotD has gone from being a football highlights show to being a football discussion show.
Whatever Joey says I'm in agreement with it, he's insightful and bang-on with his opinions which will inevitably upset the woke-folk .....long may it continue.
Women commentators are abysmal 🙈
I can’t even listen to to them and stream the match from a foreign country when they are on
Most of the female pundits are terrible also
A few good one (Kate Abdo Kelly dalgish Gabby Logan) but the rest are just annoying
The funny thing Joey lad is these people hurling abuse at you over the internet would never dream of saying it to your face, mate. The internet is full of opinionated soft wimps.
The best thing about a dodgy box is the number of channels, you can usually get one without women commentators.
before they didn't have any so no reason to switch channels - in the near future they will make sure that switching channels will not do it either anymore
This is a great interview….Joey is spot on. Women can’t play at the same level of intensity and power. There would be broken legs all over the place, and they wouldn’t be men’s……..stick to your own game and get a job commentating on merit not choice by managent.
It's gone beyond a joke. Always liked a lot of female presenters but having female pundits commenting on men's football at the highest level is just crazy. Have woman talk about the woman's game and leave the men to talk about the men's game. Simple
I don't like the fella but he's right. Most of them are dross.
It's not about them being women. The men's game and the women's game are different in many ways. Players from the Women's game just don't understand men's football so they make themselves look silly when they say things that make no sense in the men's game. (Yes it's all football but it is incredibly different
The premise that ex footballers male or female know more about the game than the average fan is bollocks we don't want or need pundits
Women`s voices as commentators just give me a headache.Too piercing man. Remember that line in the Dayoh song ? But our best male commentator was sent to jail . He was a really good commentator though .eg "Berbatov --over on the wing--Loitering --Smouldering--Cogitating".Priceless stuff.
Was that Stuart Hall?
Thank you Joey, well said 👏👏👏👏
During this woke era ….. post 2021
I have completely erased football out of my life . COMPLETELY ❤
Joey is absolutely correct here. The big problem I have is how the women have been given these opportunities before men who have played in the lower leagues. I bet there's so many madly clued up football men in the lower divisions who would add far more quality than most of the women. Scandalous that we don't get to see their input.
Totally agree. They're only there to tick the boxes. Surely they must know that themselves.
Whos watching women's soccer because men don't watch it and women certainly don't watch it
Lot's of men and women watch it! I've been watching women's football for at least 25 years. The women's WC final gets 95,000 spectators.
I think he’s right.
Put it this way, if there were 2 options open to the viewer - one with ex Premier league players commentating and one with women commentating, well the viewing figures would completely back up what Joey is saying
I love listening to joey, he’s a intelligent lad and I agree with what he’s saying.
even though im not a fan of joey Barton i agree with him 100% on what his saying 💯💯
Well said, joey. it's a pity there's not more like you that speak the truth
When you're in a privileged position your whole life equality feels like oppression
Didnt like him as a player and i speak as a rangers fan but he is 100% right about this.
It is the same for rugby, more so the lack of relatable experience and point of view significantly attributed by the frustrating high pitched voice .
Don’t always agree with what he has to say sometimes, but he’s spot on about this.
if I’m honest I mute the sound when watching highlights as it makes my toes curl listening to their unqualified opinions
The wife walked out on a recent cricket broadcast when the women commentators came on for a men's international game. She doesn't mind the women's game, a little, but said when she's watching men, she wants men all around who know what it's about.
Spot on Joey
Early tv commentors in black and white---" And ---Goal!" That covered the move or the free kick . Kenneth Wolstenholme .Better because he left long gaps . Tv should have a crowd noise only channel . Just burn some acrid tobacco in an ashtray to get the right atmosphere . A brass band on the pitch beforehand with Semper Fidelis or Abide with me .Lovely . "Oh look --There`s a woman in the crowd ".
Well said joey 👍👍
Man, I thought it was only me. I can't put my finger on exactly why but they seem kinda dumb about the game.
Just watched the FA cup 1st round draw on BBC2, woman hosting it was awful. So many mistakes and pauses, it was a car crash.
Football now is becoming boring and these women commenting is an embarrassment and I agree with Barton
This is so true, I don’t wanna hear screaming when a goal goes in just ruins the football, I’m not sexist I just do not like women commentators.
I miss the banter of men who have played in the same leagues and possibly played against or with each other or even just know somebody who has, the women are like outsiders and it feels like they can't have the same craic when they're there.
What's even worse is American Soccer commentators, using half the terms from American Football, The US should stick to running with ball in hand until they are mentally mature like us Europeans 😂
He’s right. But we live in crappy woke world where feelings have precedent over facts 🤦♂️
Good thing someone finally talked about this
Rugby is doing it as well..and there isn't a woman alive who knows what it's like to play professional men's rugby. International women's teams would struggle against amateur men's teams. Just a fact. Especially in rugby!
Answer is simple. Have 2 channels. With...Without..See where the money travels
Totally agree with him even my wife says it doesn’t sound correct but don’t bring colour into it, it’s the main streams media way of bowing down and allowing women into our game it should be kept separate so colour means nothing
Would these broadcasters have league 2 or nationwide league male pundits on top level football? Of course they wouldn't, nobody would be remotely interested in anything they had to say. So why do they think people want to hear from women footballers who play at a level far below 4th and 5th tier men's football? Gender doesn't even come into it, it's the direct connection between the pundit and the fact he played at the same level of the game he's talking about
I remember seeing a Euro match where there were 3 female pundits and no men for a mens match...the forced agenda is boring
Women cant commentate...i cant iron ...we all have our floors
Spelling might just be another one lol! ("flaws")
@richardhebden5603 shit 🤣🤣...fair play mate, I'll leave it anyway
And yet Isa Guha is one of the best cricket commentators!!
Yes she’s excellent, so is Alex Hartley.
@@dicarpio2177 But she's not. She's common, vulgar, has no filter and classless. She also doesn't know the difference between byes and leg byes
Yep, can’t stand em, commentate on dolls and Polly pocket because while we were all playing football on a daily basis, that’s what they were doing
He’s right, the shrieking when anything happens 😮no one needs that
Why do women feel to jump on what men created like they are entitled to it?
Perfectly reasonable. I often have to mute the HT break otherwise a slipper is going through the telly at the inane drivel by those who i would personally run rings around on a pitch
When I hear women commentators I just end up watching the game on mute so in spite of his past, Barton is spot on here.
I don't mind women presenting football like Kelly Cates , Laura Woods and Gabby Logan but they should not have female pundits in the mens game
well it's not really only about merit but also personality question and women rarely are entertaining personalities in the sense football demands plus as for commenting the game itself I've never heard any of them saying anything properly insightful or profound about football
I think we should have more ex goalkeepers as pundits. The only former goalkeeper I see regularly is Shaka Hislop. I've seen Brad Friedel as a pundit before as well. A lot of former outfield players do give unqualified opinions of goalkeeping.
Women commentators sound like 10 year old school boys
Spot on Joe. Speak your mind, we love you for it.