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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
  • Today's video is about Space Warfare and the Galactic Empire, as we look at which Imperial Remnant Faction has the Best Navy. Find out more on today's episode of Star Wars Factions Compared.
    Star Destroyers and Super Star Destroyers are the star of today's video as we put Warlord Zsinj's Empire, against the Dark Empire of Reborn Palpatine, the Pentastar alignment, and Grand Admiral Thrawn's Empire.
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  • @EckhartsLadder
    @EckhartsLadder  6 лет назад +265

    This is the start of Factions Compared Week, hope you enjoy! Also, to see these factions in play, try the Thrawn's Revenge mod for Empire at War!

    • @Amar-hq3ek
      @Amar-hq3ek 6 лет назад +5

      EckhartsLadder factions compared is My favourite series on your channel. I’m really exited for this week

    • @peterosborne8315
      @peterosborne8315 6 лет назад +1

      EckhartsLadder oh yeah...

    • @jonblank2380
      @jonblank2380 6 лет назад

      Can we have a description for the other videos?

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 6 лет назад

      I feel like having a clear #1 isn't bad, but you should add an extra slot in the comparison so up this from 5 to 6.

    • @KushSalad
      @KushSalad 6 лет назад +4

      EckhartsLadder Factions compared best side faction navy. Example.
      Zann Consortium, Chiss Ascendancy, Corporate Sector, CIS Holdouts, Hutt Cartel, Pirate Fleets, etc.

  • @zacharymohammadi
    @zacharymohammadi 5 лет назад +389

    Zsinj: * exists *
    Herman Göring: finally a worthy opponent

    • @iamaspaceman8533
      @iamaspaceman8533 3 года назад +16

      This comment is gold

    • @jokingjoker4964
      @jokingjoker4964 2 года назад

      shut up and take my like

    • @ghr501able
      @ghr501able Год назад

      Two fatass addicted to medication and Having a Air Force

    • @smaug9617
      @smaug9617 6 месяцев назад

      @@iamaspaceman8533indeed it is.

  • @starwarsnewsandmemes8289
    @starwarsnewsandmemes8289 6 лет назад +934

    Could you imagine Thrawn commanding the Dark Empire Fleet.
    Scary good.

    • @fergusabrams1012
      @fergusabrams1012 6 лет назад +48

      Star Wars That is terrifyingly awesome.

    • @KushSalad
      @KushSalad 6 лет назад +67

      He couldn’t lose.

    • @corwinhyatt519
      @corwinhyatt519 6 лет назад +37

      He could, in much the same way he lost in the original three novels. The one group he didn't think to look too deeply into or keep an eye on...

    • @KushSalad
      @KushSalad 6 лет назад +63

      Corwin Hyatt yeah true true but such a disappointing end for someone like Thrawn. I guess ‘Ol Palpy died in a similar fashion. Star Wars needs less betrayals and more deaths by going out fighting.

    • @MrMoney-no8ry
      @MrMoney-no8ry 6 лет назад +11

      Too Op

  • @jasonmills84
    @jasonmills84 6 лет назад +738

    Zsinj indeed was expansionist,Look at his gut hahaha

    • @corwinhyatt519
      @corwinhyatt519 6 лет назад +64

      A true glutton for power, territory and food. Someone a Hutt could respect, till he lost...

    • @josh0752
      @josh0752 5 лет назад +17

      I was thinking about that lol....he's leading a military navy.....why is he so damn big lol

    • @skenderbatsorig3241
      @skenderbatsorig3241 5 лет назад +29

      True, but, his mustache, friendly eyes and gut, make him look like a really jolly "Nice fat guy" who would sit back in a chair all day on like, a huge star destroyer, stuffing his face with doughnuts, rather than fighting.

    • @hobg5786
      @hobg5786 4 года назад +9

      I'm in awe of the size of this Imperial Remnant

    • @isectoid9454
      @isectoid9454 4 года назад +5

      @@hobg5786 Absolute unit.

  • @connorgolden4
    @connorgolden4 6 лет назад +263

    I've always loved the imperial warlords and imperial remnants, they're an interesting bunch.

    • @Vchk1917
      @Vchk1917 2 года назад +5

      Where can I read about them?
      Books, I mean.

    • @DarksaberForce
      @DarksaberForce 2 года назад +3

      @@Vchk1917 Roughly anything by Timothy Zahn and Kevin J. Anderson. Also the Dark Empire and Crimson Empire comic books.

    • @Vchk1917
      @Vchk1917 2 года назад +1

      @@DarksaberForce Thanks

    • @DarksaberForce
      @DarksaberForce 2 года назад +9

      @@Vchk1917 No problem. Also there are Rogue Squadron/ X-Wing novels and comics. The old EU rocks.

    • @Ljordan093
      @Ljordan093 2 года назад +1

      @@DarksaberForce Oh indeed indeed!

  • @BoisegangGaming
    @BoisegangGaming 6 лет назад +223

    Honestly, the reason why Thrawn was so effective wasn't that he was smart(because he was), but because he wasn't dumb. He didn't try to waste ships in grand fleet actions like other Warlords, instead picking battles that he could win. He was an actual strategist instead of a Hollywood strategist.

    • @ninofromkitchennightmares1497
      @ninofromkitchennightmares1497 3 года назад +3

      You can’t be smart and dumb at the same time about the same thing

    • @ethanstaaf404
      @ethanstaaf404 Год назад +9

      I know this is old but agreed, i think thrawn is a little over rated. He’s obviously a great admiral, but when you take into consideration that all of the best admirals died at endor, like tarkin and yularen, hes not overly impressive imo

    • @Goldfinger1718
      @Goldfinger1718 Год назад +4

      @@ethanstaaf404 Funny how you mention how overrated Thrawn is when your suggestions are likely to be any better.

    • @ethanstaaf404
      @ethanstaaf404 Год назад +3

      @@Goldfinger1718 my point was that thrawn thrives in a vacuum of competition. All of the empires finest save a small few like pellion, (who wnds up submitting to thrawn anyways) were killed off, with the top admiralty gone, its not really hard to be a successful commander. Its not like the rebels have any good admirals save for ackbar

    • @Goldfinger1718
      @Goldfinger1718 Год назад +8

      @@ethanstaaf404 I get your point but that really isn't enough for him to be considered overrated. You do know that throughout most of his campaign, Thrawn operated with a smaller fleet compared to typical Imperial standards, since the New Republic had the advantage by that point in the war. The fact that he was able to consistently outmaneuver and outplay his outnumbering enemies is a testament to his brilliance and adaptability, qualities that were unmatched by other admirals in that era. This is why I think Thrawn deserves to be ranked at the number one spot when it comes to ranking Star Wars admirals.

  • @NiraSader
    @NiraSader 6 лет назад +89

    I always liked the Pentastar Alignment most out of all of the warlord factions, because Kaine seems like a fairly competent tactician, gathering allies and assets, focusing on defense and not being too aggressive, to not provoke the militarily superior faction that was the New Republic

    • @johnlavery3433
      @johnlavery3433 2 года назад +34

      Kaine wasn’t some evil space wizard who could turn up with a fleets of uber Dreadnoughts, or the spawn of MacGyver and Brainy Smurf. He was basically Star Wars version of Ptolemy I, he knew he couldn’t hold the empire together, so he used what he had to keep a very nice chunk. It’s realistic,

    • @sylquinn4075
      @sylquinn4075 26 дней назад

      So true. I feel like people forget too often that it was Ardus Kaine who gave the Empire the second backbone it kept all the way to the death of Darth Krayt

  • @spiffygonzales5899
    @spiffygonzales5899 3 года назад +62

    I think Zsinj would be the "True" Empire remnant. He did have a lot of support and he ran his Empire very efficiently. Had he not been stuck in the med and outer rims where support for the empire was waning, I think he would probably have brought the Empire back to the way it was and been the human Palpatine.

  • @tiefighter8401
    @tiefighter8401 6 лет назад +193

    the second he mentioned the dark empire it was over

  • @lifesfailure939
    @lifesfailure939 6 лет назад +88

    This has to be one of my favourite periods in Star Wars history in the eu

  • @yankeefederer1994
    @yankeefederer1994 6 лет назад +35

    You could argue that Kaine did a lot with his fleet in service to the Dark Empire, cutting through to the core of the galaxy from all the way out over Bastion. While that's likely due also to his tactical and strategic abilities, it's another factor to consider

  • @starwarsfool
    @starwarsfool 6 лет назад +162

    What about the droid attack on the wookies?

    • @fergusabrams1012
      @fergusabrams1012 6 лет назад +7

      Star Wars Fool Hello There.

    • @bignigga2238
      @bignigga2238 6 лет назад +10

      Star Wars Fool I don't remember asking you a god damn thing oh wait wrong movie

    • @headass9343
      @headass9343 6 лет назад +7

      Star Wars Fool its a system we cannot afford to lose

    • @RedRock22Productions
      @RedRock22Productions 5 лет назад +4

      @@bignigga2238 We were on the verge of greatness. We were *this* close.

    • @angelororris831
      @angelororris831 5 лет назад

      What about them ?

  • @Soronacabricot
    @Soronacabricot 6 лет назад +111

    Do "Which sci fi faction has the best elite guard" with the Elite Honor Guards of Halo, the Praetorian guard and the imperial guard of star wars and the [i don't know what] from [i don't know what]

    • @reecedignan8365
      @reecedignan8365 6 лет назад +11

      Soronaca
      If you want to give 40k the win.
      The Custodians of Terra/the Emperor
      These guys are above the Adeptus Astartes and only below the Primarchs and the emperor - however the custodians are trained to be able to kill and defeat even Primarchs on a 1-1 scale.
      And depending if you go 30k or 40k your facing between 10,000 brothers (30k) or a simple 1000 (40k - the survivors of the Hersey and a thousand wars)

    • @killfrenzy303
      @killfrenzy303 6 лет назад +5

      Reece Dignan no contest the grim dark banana gaurd are brutal.

    • @bungodrums9176
      @bungodrums9176 6 лет назад +3

      Honestly tho. 40k is kinda retarded if you look at it.

    • @IKMojito
      @IKMojito 6 лет назад +4

      TomatoSauce Not so much retarded as much as over the top fantasy in space

    • @bungodrums9176
      @bungodrums9176 6 лет назад +2

      Fair, although major emphasis on over the top.

  • @acimccaffrey
    @acimccaffrey 6 лет назад +35

    So, I tend never to leave comments on RUclips videos. But I wanted to say I enjoy your videos and would love one about the history and technology of the Hapes Consortium (and other minor factions of the old EU).

  • @smalllittlebeanedchildw.e.3090
    @smalllittlebeanedchildw.e.3090 6 лет назад +49

    Oh boi now to build my fleet according to what Eckgod says 👌

  • @littlegreenman5919
    @littlegreenman5919 6 лет назад +54

    All embrace the week of “factions compared”

  • @geoffreyedgson7875
    @geoffreyedgson7875 6 лет назад +41

    Another amazing video. I'm also impressed that you focused on the navy rather than solely the influence of leaderships on the navies in-question; making those independent videos and further exploring the differences between the different forces of the fractured Empire before the Remnant was formed.

  • @zeroscale7766
    @zeroscale7766 6 лет назад +21

    The Pentastar was largely an economic faction controlling the old money pits of the galaxy like muunilist and often used outdated ships that they can buy or salvage.
    Dark Empire is just the repeat of a dead doctrine.
    Zsinj tried too many times to revive prototypes as well as too focused on killing the new republic

    • @pitied3744
      @pitied3744 2 года назад +1

      so Pentastar just wanted to vibe and trade?

    • @zeroscale7766
      @zeroscale7766 2 года назад +1

      @@pitied3744 Essentially, one big thing with pentastar was their *rampant* anti-alien policies, even worse than the empire but not just go on full genocide route. Khaine's faction sometimes worked with the main empire, such as providing some ships to Thrawn but otherwise they mostly stayed on their own until Dark Empire.

  • @Amar-hq3ek
    @Amar-hq3ek 6 лет назад +40

    Factions compared is My favourite series on your channel. I’m really exited for this week!

  • @KushSalad
    @KushSalad 6 лет назад +139

    I wish Thrawn was a CIS admiral. He fits into the CIS so perfectly and I’d love to see the tactics he would use with CIS ships.
    Thrawn would lead a badass Separatist Holdout campaign and prolly join up with the Rebels/create the rebellion much earlier in the Empires founding.

    • @vanders4198
      @vanders4198 6 лет назад +27

      He definitely would NOT join with the rebel scum. He might use them to further his goals but he would never join them. He's a loyal Imperial man though. So tough luck there, mate. Your comment is dripping with rebel propaganda and Rebel power fantasy. Also, associating the Separatists with rebels scum is a disservice to the glorious CIS.

    • @KushSalad
      @KushSalad 6 лет назад +32

      Vanders That is why I said join/create the rebellion. The rebellion didn’t start till later in the Empires history but the Separatist Holdouts were very early on so I meant that right from the start Thrawn would create the rebellion himself, using the CIS Holdouts as his foundation.

    • @vanders4198
      @vanders4198 6 лет назад +10

      I like the idea of CIS holdouts, but them being part of a "rebellion" is gross. They would just be a CIS remnant faction, like the Imperial Remnant - and you wouldn't consider the Imperial Remnant a rebellion would you? No indeed. They may later USE the Rebel Alliance to further their own aims, but the Rebels want to restore the Republic so I can't see CIS holdouts actively supporting the goal of the Rebellion. Which I like because yay CIS and boo Rebel scum. In the end though, Thrawn is an man of the Empire. I love security, I love the Empire. (I haven't seen Rebels Se 4 yet and I'm afraid I'm going to be disappointed if a possible spoiler I saw is true, sigh).

    • @DaKidSiriusBlak
      @DaKidSiriusBlak 6 лет назад +12

      Plus philosophically speaking, Thrawn didn't believe in the ideals of the Republic. For him, the Empire was merely the lesser of two evils. Thrawn was well aware of the coming Yuuzhan Vong invasion and knew that in the coming war someone had to be able to make the hard decisions with little to no debate that could waste valuable time. A democratic government would never go for that.

    • @theempiredidnothingwrong3227
      @theempiredidnothingwrong3227 6 лет назад +7

      He's to militaristic for the CIS plus he wouldn't like how is power is limited by the companies who make the droid. Thrawn is an imperlist the CIS aren't it's as simple as that.

  • @Anima--L
    @Anima--L 6 лет назад +135

    What faction has the best Assassins?

    • @shanerooney7288
      @shanerooney7288 6 лет назад +20

      Officio Assassinorum.

    • @KushSalad
      @KushSalad 6 лет назад +14

      Matt3311 Magna Guards and Commando droids were pretty good too. Plus Ventress, Savage, Durge, Embo, etc.

    • @odsttrooper3724
      @odsttrooper3724 6 лет назад +4

      Galaxy HoriZon ezio auditore

    • @BagelBoi4000
      @BagelBoi4000 6 лет назад +3

      Galaxy HoriZon I always used to assume assaj ventress was an assassin, idk why it is i bring bring this up but I already typed it soooo....

    • @reecedignan8365
      @reecedignan8365 6 лет назад +6

      Officio Assassinorum
      Kill count includes:
      Trillions of cultists
      Trillions of xenos
      Thousand of Xeno and Chaos warlords
      1 Primarch - we will not dispute that this Primarch may have potentially “let” himself be killed.
      And when it comes to the assassins, besides being trained from birth, not requiring payment, being almost 99.9% loyal - it took someone like Horus to even barely convert some of these guys - and their completely numerous and specialised - no numbers are know how many assassins each temple has as none distribute the number unless only to the High Officio of the Assassinorum (before wiping said number completely from his mind so that not even a psyker could gain such vital information).
      Plus the specialisation of the Assassinorum accounts for almost everything, examples:
      Vindicare Temple - trains the universes best marksmen (good enough to pick out the pin in the haystack by blind eye, from roughy 500m away)
      Culexus Temple - assassins born with the Blank Gene (a null within the touch of the warp, suppresses all form of warp power and affects)
      Callidus Temple - assassins trained and strengthened to be able to take a rare drug/toxin that will reform their body, shape, organs and everything to whatever it requires to reach and eliminate its target.
      Eversor Temple - criminals drugged and torcherd into becoming complete psychopathic killing machines, equipped with weapons of slaughter and a constant stimulant injector, eversor are not expected to survive their mission, as much as butcher all in their path until either the mission or complete or the enemy or drugs kill him first.

  • @wolfgod6443
    @wolfgod6443 6 лет назад +11

    I love Thrawn because he used what the Rebellion had against them, a small, but skilled group fighting a faction too spread out and overconfident. I always remember Luke talking with Talon Karrde about Thrawn. Luke says Thrawn doesn't stand a chance because the New Republic has too many ships and resources, then Karrde points out how that's how the Empire felt about the Rebellion. It's cool because of the switch around. I've heard it said the the greatest opponent is "You, but better", and that is very apparent with Thrawn.
    ...But that also means that Thrawn technically has the weakest Navy. Thrawn's death is the equivalent to Luke, Ackbar, or Leia dying. Everything will just fall apart afterwards.

    • @bman3794
      @bman3794 2 месяца назад +1

      Thrawn used the same tactics against the new republic that the rebellion used against the empire. The Stateless Strategy. The enemy could be anywhere and everywhere. Never knowing where it would strike. That is what made him so dangerous. Thrawn was basically the Star Wars equivalent of Sun Tzu. If he wasn’t assassinated he would probably have succeeded as the Pentastar alignment was in the process of committing its forces to Thrawn.

  • @gngalex8555
    @gngalex8555 6 лет назад +26

    I don’t have a suggestion but I’ve been watching for a real long time and I’ve never left a comment before (I’m not the comment leaving sort) but I wanted to drop in and let you know I’m subscribed to lots and lots of Star Wars channels and I think you’re my favorite. I suppose if I had a suggestion for a factions compared video I think it would be really interesting to hear your thoughts on the various droid army’s that have existed. Realistically it probably goes to the Selentium or the Abamanor but there’s definitely other sizable factions out there that could be discussed. Keep up the good work my friend.

  • @hanjizoe2648
    @hanjizoe2648 6 лет назад +32

    Executer Super Star Destroyer
    versus the Raddus!
    P.S. I love your videos man, I've been watching your channel since mid of last year!
    And every video I've enjoyed it!

    • @trollingagent24-79
      @trollingagent24-79 6 лет назад +14

      Zeke Yeager pretty sure the executor would obliterate an old MC85 carrier

    • @pyvnorrington5634
      @pyvnorrington5634 6 лет назад

      TrollingAgent24-7 MC85 is not old and is not a carrier

    • @trollingagent24-79
      @trollingagent24-79 6 лет назад +5

      PYV Norrington yes an MC85 is considered old by the time of D’Qar,
      It’s main role as the ‘Raddus’ was a command vessel and a fighter carrier, it was able to house the bulk of the fighters (x-wings, few A-wings and the Resistance bombers) none of the other canon resistance ships were able to house lots of fighters. The raddus was phased out of the new republic due to it being outdated compared to the Mc90’s nebula Star destroyers and majestic capital ships.
      But either way, it would still be crushed by any SSD especially like the executor

    • @b.gronebaum4360
      @b.gronebaum4360 5 лет назад +1

      The raddus uses hyperspace...

    • @zacharymohammadi
      @zacharymohammadi 5 лет назад +2

      @FREEDOM FREEDOM
      It’s a 1 hit KO!
      Raddus Fainted!
      Executer Fainted!

  • @SeamusOCleirigh2002
    @SeamusOCleirigh2002 6 лет назад +37

    Great episode! Love the Imperial Remant factions

  • @Milk-zn4yc
    @Milk-zn4yc 6 лет назад +218

    if its not thrawns im rioting

    • @jawafreak230
      @jawafreak230 6 лет назад +41

      Milk 7504
      Agreed. But I think this vid may not include tactics but arsenal

    • @CL-no3si
      @CL-no3si 6 лет назад +80

      As much as I like Thrawn, his fleet was tiny, consisting of 6 ISDs. It’s a testament to just what he was capable of. Well, at least until he got the Katana fleet

    • @Milk-zn4yc
      @Milk-zn4yc 6 лет назад +20

      THATS IT. TAKE TO THE STREETS. NON BELIEVERS OF THRAWN BE DAMNED!

    • @Blacksmith__
      @Blacksmith__ 6 лет назад +32

      Thrawn had a tiny navy but managed to win regardless, that's why he's so awesome.

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 6 лет назад +43

      This video was not about strategies, it was about available resources. The fact Thrawn was the only real threat besides Palpatine shows how skilled he is.

  • @HCUhardcoreUnited
    @HCUhardcoreUnited 6 лет назад +55

    Why so many votes for Thrawn. Remember people we are looking at the fleets and the ships in those fleets not the people commanding them. I know Thrawn is badass and all but keep the fanboy shit out of it.

    • @CallanElliott
      @CallanElliott 6 лет назад +2

      HCUhardcoreUnited It was the most effectively used, remember.

    • @HCUhardcoreUnited
      @HCUhardcoreUnited 6 лет назад

      Angry Irishman Palpatine isn't the strategic genius Thrawn is and yet he's 1#. So if it was most effectively used wouldn't Thrawn for first not fourth? I don't know. It could be argued the Dark Empire caused more damage to the New Republic then Thrawn did.

    • @CallanElliott
      @CallanElliott 6 лет назад +6

      HCUhardcoreUnited He's arguably on par with Thrawn, he engineered the downfall of the Republic, remember.

    • @ltb1345
      @ltb1345 6 лет назад +6

      Yeah, I actually voted for the Pentastar Alignment for #2, even though I like Thrawn more.

    • @HCUhardcoreUnited
      @HCUhardcoreUnited 6 лет назад +3

      Angry Irishman it seems like Thrawn is getting votes simply because well he's Thrawn. Even though he had the weakest complement of vessels available.

  • @lightspeedvictory
    @lightspeedvictory 6 лет назад +23

    Anti-planetary shields face off: Torpedo Sphere vs. Mandator IV

  • @RoninShinobi88
    @RoninShinobi88 6 лет назад +4

    Thrawn had the smallest fleet and nothing more serious than Imperial II class but he brought the Rebellion to its knees, he brought down Admiral Ackbar without firing a shot, he attacked their Capitol and was only beaten when he was betrayed. He gave the Alliance such an ass kicking that years later the mere idea of him coming back nearly split the new republic apart. What good is a Navy with a large fleet of super ships when a brilliant man with a small fleet of mostly medium cruisers, a few large battleship carriers and his will and wisdom? It's not about size it's about how effectively you use it.

  • @michaelb2419
    @michaelb2419 6 лет назад +25

    I think Thrawn being in last is just a testament to how great of a tactician he really was

  • @thedustinmobile1054
    @thedustinmobile1054 6 лет назад +13

    The imperial remnant is my favourite faction, but the pentastars have a special place in my heart because of the thrawns revenge mod

  • @KushSalad
    @KushSalad 6 лет назад +31

    Recusant Class Light Destroyer vs Something (MC75, Assault Frigate Mark II, Gladiator Class Star Destroyer, etc)

  • @lewistrow7211
    @lewistrow7211 6 лет назад +5

    I like the Imperial Warlords section of legends it has a very realistic Russian civil war esque vibe

  • @ankitbhardwaj6640
    @ankitbhardwaj6640 6 лет назад +27

    All 12 Grand Admiral #SUGGESTION

    • @corwinhyatt519
      @corwinhyatt519 6 лет назад +1

      I only know of Thrawn by name, were the other eleven ever expanded on?

    • @ankitbhardwaj6640
      @ankitbhardwaj6640 6 лет назад +1

      Corwin Hyatt I have no idea who the other 11 grand admiral are. But I would like to know

  • @vinniebg3553
    @vinniebg3553 6 лет назад +15

    OMG YES FACTIONS COMPARED!!!!! TIME TO SET UP MY FACTION ROSTERSSS. Thanks Eck! Notif Squad!

  • @solowingborders3239
    @solowingborders3239 6 лет назад +13

    I just want to know one thing: how the bloody hell did they get the crew for all those ships; especially DE!?

    • @ItsButterBean1020
      @ItsButterBean1020 4 года назад +4

      Clones and droids for DE I guess
      Plus he United a ton of remnant factions

    • @ayylmao575
      @ayylmao575 3 года назад +5

      Solo Wing Borders Simple. Palpatine spammed Navy Crew Buildings on his protected worlds, knowing the New Republic AI doesn’t do raids, the only problem he had was that he left himself vulnerable, he should’ve known the Era would advance and he’d lose most of his shit if he died.

  • @rolfgrell4783
    @rolfgrell4783 6 лет назад +29

    Make this a Galactic Versus episode:
    STAR WARS 2M Saber tank
    vs.
    HALO M808Skorpion tank(whatever type you want)
    vs.
    COMMAND AND CONQUER GDI Mammoth MK III
    I'd love to see which of theese tanks comes out on top.

    • @lokalnyork
      @lokalnyork 6 лет назад +1

      Also 40K Land Raider

    • @alyssinclair8598
      @alyssinclair8598 6 лет назад +2

      Dark. Duke wouldn't that be the Leman Russ or the Baneblade?

    • @CrackDCat
      @CrackDCat 6 лет назад +2

      The M808 has been replaced. Usually the good lord works in mysteries ways, but not today. the M820 MBT is 31 tons of straight-up, 150mm EP spewin' Dee-Vine intervention! If god is love than you can call the M820 Scorpion "Cupid"

    • @ninofromkitchennightmares1497
      @ninofromkitchennightmares1497 3 года назад

      @@lokalnyork No
      Just no
      40k just wins at everything so it’s not worth the competition for it to JUst be added

  • @mastermickman4388
    @mastermickman4388 6 лет назад +25

    All ships (or just the Republic ones) present at the battle of coruscant vs the byss fleet during shadow hand

    • @Amar-hq3ek
      @Amar-hq3ek 6 лет назад +3

      Master Mickman yesssssssssssssss

    • @Amar-hq3ek
      @Amar-hq3ek 6 лет назад +1

      Master Mickman DEW IT!

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 6 лет назад +4

      A battle to see who was better, the Replublic and its Jedi, or the Dark Empire with its Dark Side Elite.

    • @KushSalad
      @KushSalad 6 лет назад +2

      Please please dew it. With how big and modernized the Byss Fleet is I’d go all ships at the Battle of Coruscant. The Eclipse alone could wreck so many ships.

    • @blimp2920
      @blimp2920 6 лет назад

      Frothy Walrus There was over 6000 capital ships at coruscant, theres no way byss wins

  • @philippobitz2592
    @philippobitz2592 6 лет назад +5

    I'd say that either Pentastar or Zsinj would end up being in first place. In my opinion, having a large fleet in being is better in the long run than a bunch of superweapons, supercapital ships and droid fighters that performed no better than the standard TIE/IN.
    Kaine going for "pocket battleships" by forgoing ISD's (due to economic reasons and the aforementioned large territory) and largely relying on Enforcers (despite them being only marginally faster and cheaper than Vindicators while posessing 40 less guns) also has a certain appeal,
    although I must admit that the Enforcer-class' effectiveness in it's role as a patrol ship is dubious at best since we never really see them in action (as with anything else from the Alignment, really) and I'm generally just biased against the entire "It's like an SSD but in black and it shoots lasers like the Death Star while being way smaller and btw Sheev is back, he never died"-thing that is the Dark Empire.

  • @roguerifter9724
    @roguerifter9724 5 лет назад +7

    I would put the Alignment in slot 2. We don't know how big their fleet was compared to Zsinji but the fact they created a new cruiser design for their needs while the biggest design that I can recall definitely being created by Zsinji's faction was a fighter, which might not have ever reached mass production. To me that strongly implies that the Alignment had a much stronger support structure for its navy so while Zsinji;s fleet might have started stronger I don't think that edge would have lasted long enough to win a war between the two.

  • @Argent7771
    @Argent7771 6 лет назад +2

    I recently read the rogue squadron novels and I couldnt figure out how Isard only had two Imp Star Duce, one victory and the Lusankya at his disposal did the rest of the empire just refuse to follow her orders, were they all repressing rebels or was she just thaf arrogan?

    • @corwinhyatt519
      @corwinhyatt519 6 лет назад +2

      Most of the Remenant didn't recognize her authority and Corescant was fairly isolated from the remaining Imperial systems. She was also that arrogant, which for someone who rose through the ranks of Imperial Intelligence says allot.

  • @michaelzhang10
    @michaelzhang10 6 лет назад +13

    Please keep doing imperial warlord topic videos they are very good by the way good job on this video

  • @vanessapierce8220
    @vanessapierce8220 6 лет назад +9

    I love factions just waiting to see who’s the most shit

  • @DarkVaati13
    @DarkVaati13 3 года назад +4

    I think it would be cool to see an updated version of this video and including other notable warlords like Greater Maldrood/Federated Teradoc Union
    , Empire of the Hand, Eriadu Authority, Zero Command, and Second Imperium.

  • @KarlPHorse
    @KarlPHorse 5 лет назад +2

    Just because Thrawn was the best leader out of all of these warlords, that doesn't make his navy superior. You could put a brilliant general in charge of a poorly trained militia, and a completely mediocre general in charge of a professional army and while the good general will use what he has to the best of his abilities, the unremarkable general still has the better army.

  • @matthewturner5178
    @matthewturner5178 6 лет назад +5

    every time you use that tie fighter animation, you should put that little warning you put on the first second of the guilty Luke video.

  • @matthewfritz4629
    @matthewfritz4629 6 лет назад +7

    Thrawn could take on any faction and win.

    • @oliversmalley7771
      @oliversmalley7771 3 года назад +3

      Thrawn could do whatever the heck he wanted (militarily speaking)

  • @chrissytheconqueror7049
    @chrissytheconqueror7049 6 лет назад +7

    One week of this?!? YASSS!

  • @jnew42
    @jnew42 6 лет назад +3

    I voted Zsinj, because I feel like given your parameters they probably did have the next strongest fleet. Thrawn even at half the strength would be second, given how well Thrawn knew the others he may still be able to take second.

  • @gideonjones8088
    @gideonjones8088 5 лет назад +2

    I mean, by Thrawn's tactical philosophy, lacking those massive ships is actually advantageous. Relying on dreadnoughts and superweapons is impractical and wasteful in his eyes. But I guess you're right, from a certain point of view...

  • @sempermilites87
    @sempermilites87 6 лет назад +5

    TBH, I think you could have taken Thrawn out of this list. The Warlords in the SW Universe mostly all had one thing in common, they were mostly out for themselves and didn't care too much about unifying the Empire. Thrawn was out to reestablish the Empire with or without the other Warlords so he technically was doing it for the greater good. The Resurrected Emperor also could be taken out of this list because he was the only successful "Warlord" to unify the Empire when he recalled most of the Admirals and Moffs back to Byss and also the Emperor was again out to reestablish the Empire. So on that note, you can remove Thrawn and the Emperor and you could have included Admiral Teradoc's Greater Maldrood faction and Admiral Sander Delvardus's Eriadu Authority on this list.

  • @ASYodaGaming
    @ASYodaGaming 3 года назад +1

    I think that thrawn had the best navy but the dark empire had the most powerful navy the only reason the thrawns empire lost is because he died if he didn’t I think that they could have gained more resources thrawn made impressive fears only using a few Star destroyers such as blockading corrascaunt when even groups like palpatine couldn’t do it with so few resources

  • @silenthiller
    @silenthiller 6 лет назад +1

    Definitely subbing. You know your original canon shit, sir. Very impressed. I agree 100% with the ranking. If you add Razor's Kiss to Zsinj's column, he definitely has the upper hand on Kaine. Dark Empire is the one to rule them all. The power of the Eclipse neutralizes the dreadnaughts of the others. I would argue that is what the Eclipse was designed to do. Identify a massive ship, target it with the superlaser and annihilate it. Like you said in another video, it is quite unwieldy against fleets of smaller vehicles. The Byss forces had Assertor and Bellator ships, massive Word Devastators and the Galaxy Gun. This is in addition to many regular ISD II's and deadly droid fighters.

  • @corwinhyatt519
    @corwinhyatt519 6 лет назад +2

    I'm honestly surprised the Thrawn didn't make use of more Victory class Star Destroyers (either variant). They would have been allot cheaper to produce while still being quite effective.

  • @Lord_Shadowz
    @Lord_Shadowz 4 года назад +1

    What makes you think that Thrawn only had those assets? In the battle of Bilbringi alone he used more forces than you spout in the video. Thrawn used his forces wisely. He never over committed forces. The books never went into what other forces he had protecting the systems the empire controlled. He was producing clone so fast he needed hundreds of ships right away, which is why he needed the Katana fleet or another source of ships.

  • @bluemilk66
    @bluemilk66 6 лет назад +5

    I HAVE ARRIVED ALRIGHTY ECKARTSLADDER

  • @Vagus32000
    @Vagus32000 4 года назад +2

    I’ve always like the Pentastar Alignment for some reason.

  • @CandCfans101
    @CandCfans101 5 лет назад +2

    Could you do a one on Superheavy Tanks (GDI's Mammoth mk 3, The Rebel's T4-B, etc.)? Considering the doctrinal niche for massive tanks is so small, it'd be interesting to see which ones are best designed for their faction.

  • @facundopollacino7956
    @facundopollacino7956 6 месяцев назад +1

    Ardus Kaine: *existe*
    Deadpool: "¿¡qué *insulto censurado* !?, ¡es el mejor nombre de la vida!"

  • @robertparobechek6580
    @robertparobechek6580 6 лет назад +1

    The problem with saying well... Thrawn's fleet sucks because it had no Super star Destroyers or Eclipse is the MAJOR reason why the Empire loses at Endor..... The Empire liked its "terror weapons" like Dreadnaught class ships.... but the problem is, if 1 is destroyed the fleet as a whole is so shocked, demoralized and diminished, the battle is lost......where as many smaller ships attacking such as Thrawn's Strike Cruisers/ Katana Fleet is a major advantage.... sure a few get destroyed from a Super Star Destroyer, but the loss of an individual ship is not a total collapse of the fleet..... so to judge based on what kind of ships seem somewhat shallow.... you can't separate the effectiveness of a fleet with the leader that uses said fleet either....The Empire had 2 Death Stars and they STILL lost....

  • @cristopherramirez9571
    @cristopherramirez9571 5 лет назад +1

    What would have happen if Thrawn had the resources as the other Admirals ?
    Would he defeat the new republic ?

  • @criminaljhd5298
    @criminaljhd5298 6 лет назад +3

    Amazing video as ever love your channel may the force be with you

  • @sumukhvmrsat6347
    @sumukhvmrsat6347 Год назад +1

    What does zinj have : crimson command and a Executor
    What does Pentastar allignment have : many Isds and Executor
    What does Palpatine have :a fleet of super weapons
    What does thrawns have :He has his mind and anything else he needs he can get it easily no prob

  • @sumukhvmrsat6347
    @sumukhvmrsat6347 Год назад +1

    Who's in the 4th place , thrawn
    Who the New Republic feared most , Thrawn

  • @alecdeter1999
    @alecdeter1999 6 лет назад +1

    Thrawn fans please do not crap your pants his 4th place shows him as a superior commander if there's nothing but good things said about his 4th place then he's the best warlord

  • @eddierudolph7694
    @eddierudolph7694 6 лет назад +2

    Minor factions compared mandalorians, Hapes Consortium, Zann Consortium, and other minor powers

  • @BeBetter22992
    @BeBetter22992 6 лет назад +4

    Dark Helmet Vs Darth Vader

  • @waterdog_mf
    @waterdog_mf 3 года назад +1

    I love how Thrawn was beaten only with copius ammounts of plot armor.

  • @KraNisOG
    @KraNisOG 6 лет назад +1

    My vote is palpatine first then thrawn.

  • @fadelsukoco3092
    @fadelsukoco3092 6 лет назад +1

    If only Sidius listened to Thrawn when he told the Sith Emperor to build more practical and flexible fleets of ships and advanced fighter squadrons instead of pooling gobs upon gobs of resources and funds into giant superweapons.

  • @wummer9030
    @wummer9030 6 лет назад +2

    Last time i was this late the Zsinj's empire was still at war with the Mandlore's in the rp server oh wait

  • @donbrunodelamancha1927
    @donbrunodelamancha1927 6 лет назад +1

    @EckhartsLadder This was a very well done!! It is concise, yet extremely informative. It was also very taut, having no extraneous information to beleaguer your overall metered and smoothly timed episode. You have gotten so very much better at producing and editing. I am thoroughly impressed and proud of you!!! I salute you sir, you are always striving to be better, and I can seriously respect that!!!!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼❣️❣️❣️✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼🙆🏻‍♂️🙆🏻‍♂️🙆🏻‍♂️

  • @astarion5903
    @astarion5903 5 лет назад +1

    The neighbor from hello my neighbor is an imperial War Faction ? nice

  • @duane8620
    @duane8620 6 лет назад +1

    Anyone else go - _"the Undertaker?"_ when the camera was panning up @ 4:40?
    As always, it's a great video!

  • @simonnimstrand9120
    @simonnimstrand9120 6 лет назад +1

    Could you please make a 'sarcastic' video, like for example a Gonk droid vs. The Emperor and somehow predict that the Gonk droid will win?

    • @ThatOneGuy_James
      @ThatOneGuy_James 3 года назад +2

      How would that be a sarcastic video? It's a perfectly reasonable battle, two of the most powerful beings in the galaxy battling for control of the galaxy.

  • @lightspeedvictory
    @lightspeedvictory 6 лет назад +3

    X-83 Twintail vs. Tie Defender (the Legends version)

    • @seamus2059
      @seamus2059 4 года назад

      I think that's a close fight

  • @loC2ol
    @loC2ol 6 лет назад +1

    Factions VS!!!! Humans system Alliance vs Turian Hierarchy vs Salarian Union vs Asari Republics

  • @nathanielrourke8886
    @nathanielrourke8886 6 лет назад +1

    You could do a video on the 12 grand admirals. It would be cool.

  • @Frostyman452
    @Frostyman452 6 лет назад +3

    I see no one saw my comment on the poll

  • @robertnelson9599
    @robertnelson9599 6 лет назад +1

    Necrons vs Prometheans
    Krogans vs Orks
    Imperial Guards vs Honor Guards

  • @TheTrytix
    @TheTrytix 6 месяцев назад

    Ardus Kaine: Large fleet, typically doesn't fight much, just plays defensively for the most part.
    Zsinj: Large fleet, hyper aggressive, pretty intelligent, a major threat to the New Republic.
    Thrawn: Less Star Destoyers than the Endor blockade, STILL a major threat due to just how strategically and tactically masterful he is.
    Palpatine: Chilling at Byss where he has a backup of probably orders of magnitude more star destroyers, battlecruisers and dreadnoughts than the other 3 combined.

  • @Trey-dp6tl
    @Trey-dp6tl 6 лет назад +1

    Which faction had the best general. Grievous, Kenobi or Yoda, Maidine, and Veers

  • @zanehiam8130
    @zanehiam8130 6 лет назад +1

    Please do more of these Imperial remnant faction videos!

  • @bignigga2238
    @bignigga2238 6 лет назад +1

    What about the wookie attack on the droids

  • @herbivorethecarnivore8447
    @herbivorethecarnivore8447 4 года назад

    Do you have/could you make a video explaining the post-RoTJ Legends stuff with the Imperial Remnants? It's a whole era I know nothing about

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend7189 6 лет назад +1

    Best transforming fighter:
    VF-11 thunderbolt from Macross plus vs the Union Flag from Gundam 00 vs the Viking from StarCraft vs the Mecha Tengu from Command and Conquer.

  • @lordfrostwind3151
    @lordfrostwind3151 6 лет назад +1

    Another point for the Dark Empire is the World Devastators will allow them significantly greater access to raw materials and resources than the other fleets. Imagine what a fleet of Devastators eating up an asteroid field could produce.

  • @atomichorizen3987
    @atomichorizen3987 6 лет назад +1

    Should do a video on the best/say top 4 pirate factions in the Star Wars universe!!!

  • @vanessapierce8220
    @vanessapierce8220 6 лет назад +2

    High charity vs yuuzhan vong world ship 12 try

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 6 лет назад

      I say High Charity, not even UNSC nuclear missiles had any effect.

  • @SuperWoodb
    @SuperWoodb 6 лет назад

    Which Star Wars Faction has the BEST LIGHTSABER DUELIST?

  • @jeffreyscarbroughboardgame2822
    @jeffreyscarbroughboardgame2822 6 лет назад

    How many factions existed as war lords after the fall of the Empire (Palpatine death)?

  • @Zornhau231
    @Zornhau231 6 лет назад +1

    Which faction has the best navy setup: UNSC, The Federation from Star Trek, the Empire, and anybody from W40k

    • @adambielen8996
      @adambielen8996 6 лет назад

      What do you mean by setup? Is it like naval doctrine, or deployment, or ship variety, or logistics, etc.

    • @Zornhau231
      @Zornhau231 6 лет назад +1

      Adam Bielen A combination of all the above, and which is most versatile, deadly, and so on. There is a lot of space to do different stuff.

  • @gunnermesa829
    @gunnermesa829 6 лет назад +1

    0:45 Boz Pity? The imperial reunification was at Tsoss Beacon

  • @cominguponinfra-red3038
    @cominguponinfra-red3038 6 лет назад +1

    Replicators vs a Unified Star Wars universe (198th try now, *_I._** WILL NEEEEVER EEEVER GIVE UP!!!)*

    • @fergusabrams1012
      @fergusabrams1012 6 лет назад

      coming up on infra-red never give up Friend you can do this.:)

    • @CallanElliott
      @CallanElliott 6 лет назад

      Please Eckhart, do it, he deserves it for his simple determination.

  • @chipophqofficial7180
    @chipophqofficial7180 5 лет назад

    the first order is not in this video because the first order will destroy the other 4 war lords easily. C'mon. Starkiller base, the supremacy, kylo ren and supreme leader snoke. this video will be a clean sweep if the first order was added as the fifth faction.

  • @itsyaboidaniel2919
    @itsyaboidaniel2919 6 лет назад

    Blacklight Virus vs The Flood
    Rematch
    35th Attempt

  • @glitchymariostar6495
    @glitchymariostar6495 6 лет назад

    Eckharts are you a droid? Do you ever sleep? You make so many videos! That’s so cool!

  • @Cyber_kumo
    @Cyber_kumo 6 лет назад

    Why not end this with a faction vs with different Imperial remnant factions fight the First Order.

  • @pitied3744
    @pitied3744 2 года назад

    Thrawn didn't need any heavy Star Destroyers cause they would just be a big burden and huge target

  • @samdale3937
    @samdale3937 6 лет назад +1

    Thrawns revenge mod made a factions compared.