Weren’t both Emily and Jonathan at HQ back in the day? Are we sure that they are the ones ruining CF media or is it others above them that are preventing them from performing their job as it should be run? Just curious, I remember hearing Jonathan’s name back in the day (actually believe it was Tommy that mentioned him). Either way we can all agree that the media isn’t doing anything worthwhile.
The rumor that’s out there - on day one when Roza took over CrossFit he wanted to make the company more diverse and immediately took CF media from Sevan and put Haynes in charge. Emily was his assistant/lover and so she climbed the ranks with him. Supposedly Haynes text staff saying his first objective was to get Sevan, Dave and Justin fired.
@@hillerfit wish we could get Dave to comment on this. If that’s true I’m surprised Dave hasn’t fired him. Maybe his interviews are a way to demonstrate how worthless Haynes is at providing media.
My wife and I own an affiliate and had a video call with our regional rep, Chase Ingram, where he very rudely replied that there was nothing they could do about "stopping" search results of other hiit type gyms popping up when you type in crossfit, when we brought that up to him. We were kinda baffled... like, wth are we paying your salaries for then? Put us on the map (figuratively and literally) so we can teach people how to get healthy. We don't want CAP. We don't want summits in Texas (we are a southwest affiliate). We don't want your bs. Stop stealing our money for certs and ceu's and affiliate fees. I'm an L3, and it has done nothing for me, btw. We are ready to call it quits bc the tops are getting paid 6 figures while we struggle to run very small businesses that impact peoples lives in one of the greatest ways imaginable. Don, you are not changing lives. We are. Thank you, Andrew. You are doing more work for many people than you may or may not understand.
Also an affiliate owner in Texas. There is also the issue of globo gyms having “x fit” or functional fitness classes. We miss having that bulldog(Greg) chasing bums down using the methodology under the guise of another name
My husband started watching your videos before I did. I would hear bits and pieces of random videos and think wow he is a negative person. Then I started watching and listening more and more and I was hooked. It took me a few videos to understand your mission, your personality, and where you were coming from. The CF HQ people are still just hearing the bits and pieces and refuse to understand the bigger picture here. Keep posting and eventually your time will come. You’ve already reached so many big names within the last year even.
100%. It shows how bad their media team is. I dont know if this is good for CF, because if someone looks for CF and gets into Hiller content, wont go into CF because of it.
How HQ hasn’t partnered w/ HILLER to flip the media switch yet is beyond me. Knowing a person like HILLER is as passionate as he is about your brand “CROSSFIT’ and choosing to ignore it and deflect is just pure crazienss.
On another note! As an affiliate owner I wish I had a “HILLER” doing daily updates on all the things my business needs to be doing to be better… all the CEO needs to do is take parts of this content that he agrees with and take action. He’s a CrossFit business auditor for 🆓.
I was thinking this exact thing the other day. Actually, what’s scary, what if Nike comes out of nowhere with their new barbell equipment division and becomes the new Reebok. It would be what could save CF as a “healthy company.”
Just had a revelation, they don’t want controversial creators (*cough Hiller*). But the founder, Greg Glassman, WAS the controversial creator. CrossFit went against the grain and had a mission. Now it’s just to grow?? Like all other fitness franchises?? 🤷🏻 Appreciate your takes Hiller
People love to call others negative when something hurts their feelings or goes against their beliefs, when in reality, the "negative" person is being realistic and they just don't want to hear the truth.
Seriously, when Andrew Hiller goes off on CrossFit HQ, it’s not him being toxic, it’s more like he’s doing us a favor. I mean, someone’s gotta call out the big wigs for dropping the ball, right? Thanks dude, keep the truth bombs coming!
You know whats really crazy...I work for a bank and have literally helped set up crossfit gyms business accounts and not once have they ever tried to recruit me to work out at their gym...and I have worked out my whole life.
If a large portion of the community is agreeing with and watching a particular content creator's opinions. Why are the leaders of CrossFit not watching it... companies pay millions to get user feedback and here it is on a silver platter and they just ignore it. I have yet to speak to anyone who thinks it's a bad for CrossFit to invest into their media team. The leadership team mentions growth again and again when the solution seems so obvious? All people want from CrossFit is the games season and coverage of it, let the affiliates do the rest, stop charging them a ridiculous amount of money for things no one has asked for. The best thing you can do for an affiliate is grow the hype for the sport and that is done through media coverage.
The larger portion doesn't even know what this content is. They do not care about this page, or the games page. They care about getting fit and healthy and that's at the affiliate level. Most of my members are not watching RUclips, unless I link a demo video of the deadlift in the athletes notes for the day. And they don't even watch that.
He's just one angry man in his garage right? If even 10% of CrossFitters were 100% with Hiller think about how many people that is. I think a better question is what if you could engage with Hiller and get him to see HQs side of things or more an idea what is going on or just communicate with him or work on having some relationships with the people there and just let him make videos that they will feel are more 'positive'. They are doing their best to create an absolute vacuum instead of some kind of constructive relationship. Hiller would love to just spend days making videos praising the people and the company if he had some topics and info to do it, at no cost to them!!!!! It is crazy.
Since we’re talking about handing HQ info on a silver platter… We recently had a coach get certified L2 (awesome). There were a group of us congratulating her, talking about what it means to get these different certifications. Based on this conversation (and many others), members don’t know much about the inner-workings of CrossFit. They don’t know how difficult it is to obtain/maintain certifications as coaches, they don’t know how/why there are standards for all of the movements that we perform. In my opinion, educating CrossFitters about CrossFit creates a level of buy-in that orange theory wishes they could compete with.
Andrew, don’t stop posting. This is how we make changes. You got this. Defining what is positive and what is negative. And people are too sensitive these days.
Just once I want them to specify exactly what is so negative and outrageous that Hiller produces. They’re so vague it’s exhausting. As far as I’m concerned Hiller is bailing the sinking boat that is CrossFit while HQ continues shooting their own feet.
Is it me or can anybody else see this? The heart and philosophy behind functional fitness, Greg Glassman doesn’t work for CrossFit but is contractually obliged to not engage in the movement until August this year. Hiller, Sevan and Pedro are the window to functional fitness content, they don’t work for CrossFit. There are functional fitness coaches around the World who are the hearts who spread the philosophy directly to the people, they don’t work for CrossFit. Then there are a lot of suits, focused on balancing spreadsheets for increased profits, hitting quotas, farming out media access to maximise profits and produce shoddy content - these people are ALL paid by CrossFit. CrossFit is the one major brand of the functional fitness movement, I can feel the hairs stand on the back of my neck as a perfect storm is beginning to form - are all these people who are NOT paid by CrossFit considering forming an alternate functional fitness organisation?
I would like Don and Dave to ask Affiliate owners if they are actually able to make a living on owning an affiliate. Most gym owners are breaking even or losing money from the gym owners I know. No one is making enough money to support themselves or their family. It’s like buying a job for yourself. Your videos aren’t fear, there is some anger and outrage towards their poor decision making and they don’t want to hear it. They know what you are doing and they don’t want to fix what you are recommending probably because they have their own agenda and making money the way they want to make it. There’s a Bible verse about giving pearls to pigs. Your messages is pearls they don’t want to hear it. I’d like to see a video on the two media staff leads you mentioned Haines and Hearn. I know you can. They are ruining the media department.
As a truth, teller myself, I understand how people misconstrue when you’re saying something totally true about somebody. They have a vested interest in and that’s what you’re up against. You aren’t negative but when you’re saying something truthful about somebody in someone else’s circle, their feelings will turn it into, an attack
Does paying for the brand provide any value at all? only if your members are competing. How much is it ? $4500? If think if you make a raffle among all members that trained the whole year for $4500, you'll get more out of the money
I get the vibes from Don that he's always had "yes men" surrounding him in any leadership position he's had. It's easy to feel that everything is positive when everyone around you says it's all great. Light doesn't exist without darkness. There's nothing to look for if the other side doesn't exist. He needs to realize how to handle the dark (read: outside criticism and reviews) so the light can shine that much brighter. #BringBackCFMedia
Great piece, again. PE forces company’s to focus on bottom line. What had made CrossFit so valuable in the past is the focus on wellness, concurring the most vexing health issue. The new owners have veered from that course. You need to keep doing what your doing.
This reminds me of when I was a pastor of a traditional mainline protestant church. The national church was always creating resources that the local parish was to utilize to bring money to the national church. The problem was the local parishes were starving for lack of members and donors. But the national church would demand more revenues from the local church, so the national church could produce material to give to the local congregation to raise more money for the national church. But the local congregation was being used to death without any help from the national church. Congregations were closing left and right or withdrawing from the denomination and national church to focus on their own survival. Crossfit HQ seems to be doing the same thing. The affiliate is to be the marketing branch of the HQ so they can sell crossfit at a profit.
Andrew we live in a post truth world unfortunately and most people don't want to hear the truth. When you tell them the truth they play victim and say your being mean
It’s not a lack of leadership. Sadly, any person, other than Greg, that has the money to purchase CrossFit would not be able to achieve what Greg and the original leadership did. This is in part due to the lack of Greg. Greg brought singular direction and focus, challenged the norms of the world. These where new to so many of us, or atleast it confirmed something you where practicing but didn’t know why. He also educated us, and got the community invested in fighting back against chronic illness, and sugar. Don wouldn’t start a fight with anyone one or thing, due to his companies stocks being attacked, shorted or bought out underneath him. Keep this Energy Hiller and let God sort them out! Clearly the CPO is wanting to step down after just one video.
Jeeeez I haven't watched the interview but wow. @22:00 ish when he started talking about doing RUclips videos just for clicks is bad...omg how clueless can you be. No wonder no one outside of Crossfit is talking about Crossfit anymore. It's not a business first, it's a methodology that is a cure for health problems that was being talked about a few years ago, and now no one outside of Crossfit is talking about anymore. And it would be really cheap to push the methodology through RUclips (actually if they did it right they would be making money off clicks to fuel more videos and more clicks and more money to reduce affiliate fees to produce more affiliates which would lead to more clicks and more money). You own the word Crossfit, use it to spread information to teach everyone how to take care of themselves. I can't believe they are even trying to address "negative" videos. This is wild. Essentially, media wise, they are being out performed by Hiller, Sevan, Mayhem, etc. (who are all brilliant) and instead of upping their game to match, they just whine about the "negativity". F'in disaster.
He wants the Crossfit community to operate like Planet Fitness or a college safe space. Meanwhile in the old videos, TDC was driving around in his golf cart cussing up a storm and talking down to people. Hmmmm
Not negative. It’s not negative to speak the truth. I’d rather hear the truth even if I don’t like the way I feel. Vs hear just stuff that feels good. I also like listening to smart people who know what they are talking about. I like to learn
It is evident that the main objective is to grow the brand of CrossFit to sell it. When if you have a good product (making people healthy) at a good price, you won’t have any problem selling what you are producing.
Thank you for your hard work Hiller. This is what the higher ups don’t want to hear, and won’t, but need to. They’ve lost their way. Real ones get it, and appreciate you. Great video. Start to finish 👍🏻
If people put out public statements or go on podcasts to speak then you set yourself up to receive feedback. Both positive and negative. If people don’t want feedback then they shouldn’t speak.
@@bgg7518 then you need to limit who can give feedback then which requires not talking in public settings. This is corporate 101 and they can’t even do that right. The things you say in meeting rooms and to the public are usually 2 different things for a reason.
Excellent slap in the face video Hiller, you're a professional sh!t stirrer and that's a good thing. I was really good at that also. People get real defensive when confronted with inconvenient facts. The world needs people that are good sh!t stirrers to hold incompetence accountable.
This has been the problem across the board in the nation in industries. DEI hires based of skin color & feelings v.s merit & actual qualifications. Relax I'm Puerto Rican lmao.. Keep up the good work Hiller. Haters gunna hate & your supporters are going to support which overcomes the b.s. The engagements to your videos v.s the others speaks volumes 🤷♂
It’s not a mystery. Money wants more money. More money with this man and these people at the helm means more rules means more money. Before the current HQ’s time is over, affiliates will be required to jump through mandatory hoops that will cost more money, it’s the only thing that can happen from these standpoints of “making a healthy business.” This guy represents money, his money, and he’s trying to flip a business model that cannibalized it self after a social guffaw cost them their #1 revenue source. They had a chance to rebuild through their #1 avenue of communication, but instead are going through their 4th revision and are delayed and upset that the community is faster and more capable than they are at using media. P.S. “CrossFit is dangerous”, but “criticism is constructive”, but only as long as it’s coming from HQ.
I’ll never step foot into an affiliate again as long as CF continues down this woke path of destruction. I’m going to spend 150 dollars a month and keep outfitting my garage gym and take their workouts and methodology and enjoy them at their expense. Remember they can’t take back what they taught you/us.
Andrew, your stuff is great! Very honest, informative, and entertaining! It will be impossible for CrossFit to reach its 30,000,000 member goal without taking into consideration all you have said in the many recent videos about CF and the leadership. If they did watch more of your videos in full, like I have, they would know you are not trying to tear down the brand or any one person, but giving insight from many years as member, CF Open participant, past affiliate owner, and fan-boy (not sure if that's the right word) of the methodology and company. They can do like I do at watch at 1.5 speed if they don't have the time. They don't have to agree with everything, but really need a better understanding of your message.
It’s wild that you literally take what they say and talk about it. They get mad about it and passive aggressively rant about it in response to your videos. Do they not know about video and audio recordings? Clearly not 😂 They hate accountability and have weak backbones.
Why don't they just invite you to visit HQ? Show you around. Talk about how each party has similar goals. Find ways to add value to the community together. Etc. If you're the enemy, wouldn't that keep you close? Like that old saying about friends and enemies?
The 23’ Games video, coming out AFTER the 24’ Games make ZERO SENSE! Way to build up some excitement leading into the 24’ Games. The Buttery Bros can crank out content in days, not a year. And losing Woodland, puzzling.
I love my free garage and not paying an affiliate fee (minus the equipment I bought). May as well throw your money in the dumpster. Waste of money, 8-15 new leads per year wow. Again Chief People Officer😂😂😂😂
I don’t understand why HQ pay third party companies to collate the data on who is attending CrossFit classes. How about incentivising affiliates with a financial reward or slight reduction of next year’s fee when they report own numbers back to HQ on a monthly basis? And so the life cycle continues. Just an idea, and it would probably cost a lot less to HQs pocket whilst giving a little back to the affiliates.
True, but it wouldn’t be hard to put together an evidence based procedure of some sort. I would argue that it would be more accurate than that a third party too. I’m just thinking out load 😊
….couple things about Annette Reavis I am struggling with since I am married to a CPA. 1 - Anybody notice her LinkedIn does not say she is a CPA. Maybe she is or maybe she couldn’t pass the CPA exams and that is why KPMG told her she could not be a partner. 2 - If Annette hates public accounting firms (KPMG) why did she later go back and work for Deloitte in HR who is a KPMG competitor?
@@hillerfit….she is CPO (Chief People Office) now. I’m referring to when she started her career with KPMG as a Tax Manager and said there was a “glass ceiling”. I’m wondering if the “glass ceiling” was actually caused by the fact she could not pass the CPA (certified public accountant) exams. I have no clue if she has or has not passed the CPA exams but I find that the first thing most CPAs tell you is they are a CPA and they always have it on their LinkedIn profile. 😂 If she could not pass the CPA exams then there was definitely a ceiling as no tax firm will make you a Partner in the firm without being a CPA.
I was planning to open an affiliate (here in Italy) but now I'm not so adamant. I'll open a gym and I'll help people that's for sure but not in their name and not to give them money so that they can sell the company to another vampire. "Black squares" damaged CrossFit so bad when they've cornered Greg. Keep it up @hillerfit 💪🏻😎🦇
If this is truly a misunderstanding/Miscommunication, then invite Hiller to HQ and show him the reality of what is going on. If it's not keep yelling and screaming he is bad and hope people won't notice... Bad Plan!
In your videos, one thing that I appreciate the most, is that you don't say "like" once or more per sentence. You are in a huge minority of content creators in this space who does this. Why do so many people use the word "like" 3 times per thought/sentence? Good work on that alone Hiller. Makes you come across much more intelligent and well-spoken and it's easier to listen to.
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Weren’t both Emily and Jonathan at HQ back in the day? Are we sure that they are the ones ruining CF media or is it others above them that are preventing them from performing their job as it should be run? Just curious, I remember hearing Jonathan’s name back in the day (actually believe it was Tommy that mentioned him). Either way we can all agree that the media isn’t doing anything worthwhile.
The rumor that’s out there - on day one when Roza took over CrossFit he wanted to make the company more diverse and immediately took CF media from Sevan and put Haynes in charge. Emily was his assistant/lover and so she climbed the ranks with him. Supposedly Haynes text staff saying his first objective was to get Sevan, Dave and Justin fired.
@@hillerfit And it's my opinion their professional backgrounds (as seen in LinkedIn) aren't commensurate with their current levels of responsibility.
@@hillerfit Thats a huge story you buried there bud.... here i was thinking you were just a car chasing dog
@@hillerfit wish we could get Dave to comment on this. If that’s true I’m surprised Dave hasn’t fired him. Maybe his interviews are a way to demonstrate how worthless Haynes is at providing media.
@hillerfit I think Haynes was the reason Tia Wright got a road to the games and cf podcast appearance back in the day.
Rewatch it.
At this point Andrew is more an investigative journalist than a RUclipsr. Legit doing the Lord's work.
The methodology will outlive the company.
Surely. The basic principles existed even well before CrossFit
Amen.....
Gods work. Count me in for all 47 minutes
You the man. The true algorithm booster
My wife and I own an affiliate and had a video call with our regional rep, Chase Ingram, where he very rudely replied that there was nothing they could do about "stopping" search results of other hiit type gyms popping up when you type in crossfit, when we brought that up to him. We were kinda baffled... like, wth are we paying your salaries for then? Put us on the map (figuratively and literally) so we can teach people how to get healthy.
We don't want CAP. We don't want summits in Texas (we are a southwest affiliate). We don't want your bs. Stop stealing our money for certs and ceu's and affiliate fees. I'm an L3, and it has done nothing for me, btw.
We are ready to call it quits bc the tops are getting paid 6 figures while we struggle to run very small businesses that impact peoples lives in one of the greatest ways imaginable. Don, you are not changing lives. We are.
Thank you, Andrew. You are doing more work for many people than you may or may not understand.
Also an affiliate owner in Texas. There is also the issue of globo gyms having “x fit” or functional fitness classes. We miss having that bulldog(Greg) chasing bums down using the methodology under the guise of another name
dont pay them any more. Change the name and use the money in ads.
@@santiagoferrari1973 we've definitely thought about this. 👍
@greymatternick Yup. We have Mountainside Fitness out here in Arizona and they have a "CoreFit" section playing CF Games on the tvs in the background.
the fact that the regional rep doesn't know what SEO is describes the crossfit space as a whole... perfectly
My husband started watching your videos before I did. I would hear bits and pieces of random videos and think wow he is a negative person. Then I started watching and listening more and more and I was hooked. It took me a few videos to understand your mission, your personality, and where you were coming from. The CF HQ people are still just hearing the bits and pieces and refuse to understand the bigger picture here. Keep posting and eventually your time will come. You’ve already reached so many big names within the last year even.
They can't stand that more people consume your content than all of theirs combined.
😂🎯👌🏻❤
100%. It shows how bad their media team is. I dont know if this is good for CF, because if someone looks for CF and gets into Hiller content, wont go into CF because of it.
How HQ hasn’t partnered w/ HILLER to flip the media switch yet is beyond me. Knowing a person like HILLER is as passionate as he is about your brand “CROSSFIT’ and choosing to ignore it and deflect is just pure crazienss.
On another note! As an affiliate owner I wish I had a “HILLER” doing daily updates on all the things my business needs to be doing to be better… all the CEO needs to do is take parts of this content that he agrees with and take action. He’s a CrossFit business auditor for 🆓.
They don’t create content.
When Dave smirks and says “No we actually didn’t fund the documentary.” It’s not the own he thinks it is.
WHY THE HELL NOT??? PUT SOMETHING OUT!!!
People should always be hired on merit. To not do so is definition of discrimination.
Hiller and Sevan are the survival cell of CrossFit.
CrossFit is so broken… if Rogue decides to pack up and leave they are FUCKED
I was thinking this exact thing the other day. Actually, what’s scary, what if Nike comes out of nowhere with their new barbell equipment division and becomes the new Reebok. It would be what could save CF as a “healthy company.”
When rogue did all the competitions, and had more of an influence they put on the best competitions. Rogue made things epic.
@@blueprinthealthandfitness2014 what do you mean? Rogue exists BECAUSE of CrossFit.
Just had a revelation, they don’t want controversial creators (*cough Hiller*). But the founder, Greg Glassman, WAS the controversial creator. CrossFit went against the grain and had a mission. Now it’s just to grow?? Like all other fitness franchises?? 🤷🏻
Appreciate your takes Hiller
Haven’t seen anything like this, and it’s an awesome take
“You can’t put baby in the corner if you’re not daddy.” Thanks for keeping it real as always, Hiller. No negativity, just mirrors.
People love to call others negative when something hurts their feelings or goes against their beliefs, when in reality, the "negative" person is being realistic and they just don't want to hear the truth.
To your point - this is the problem with have KPI driven CEOs instead of first principle and founder lead CEOs.
Seriously, when Andrew Hiller goes off on CrossFit HQ, it’s not him being toxic, it’s more like he’s doing us a favor. I mean, someone’s gotta call out the big wigs for dropping the ball, right? Thanks dude, keep the truth bombs coming!
THANK YOU
I'm with you on his seems like Hiller gives more of a sh!t about Crossfit and affiliates than pretty much anyone at CFHQ.
pedro is secretly laughing at all these answers he is getting
You know whats really crazy...I work for a bank and have literally helped set up crossfit gyms business accounts and not once have they ever tried to recruit me to work out at their gym...and I have worked out my whole life.
Too many people run gyms "for fun" and not enough as a business.
Don comes across extremely defensive across the board which is indicative of no control
You have to keep going. They’re losing their minds because you’re winning. Don’t stop.
If a large portion of the community is agreeing with and watching a particular content creator's opinions. Why are the leaders of CrossFit not watching it... companies pay millions to get user feedback and here it is on a silver platter and they just ignore it. I have yet to speak to anyone who thinks it's a bad for CrossFit to invest into their media team. The leadership team mentions growth again and again when the solution seems so obvious? All people want from CrossFit is the games season and coverage of it, let the affiliates do the rest, stop charging them a ridiculous amount of money for things no one has asked for. The best thing you can do for an affiliate is grow the hype for the sport and that is done through media coverage.
Hear that HQ? MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
The larger portion doesn't even know what this content is. They do not care about this page, or the games page. They care about getting fit and healthy and that's at the affiliate level. Most of my members are not watching RUclips, unless I link a demo video of the deadlift in the athletes notes for the day. And they don't even watch that.
He's just one angry man in his garage right? If even 10% of CrossFitters were 100% with Hiller think about how many people that is. I think a better question is what if you could engage with Hiller and get him to see HQs side of things or more an idea what is going on or just communicate with him or work on having some relationships with the people there and just let him make videos that they will feel are more 'positive'. They are doing their best to create an absolute vacuum instead of some kind of constructive relationship. Hiller would love to just spend days making videos praising the people and the company if he had some topics and info to do it, at no cost to them!!!!! It is crazy.
Since we’re talking about handing HQ info on a silver platter…
We recently had a coach get certified L2 (awesome). There were a group of us congratulating her, talking about what it means to get these different certifications. Based on this conversation (and many others), members don’t know much about the inner-workings of CrossFit. They don’t know how difficult it is to obtain/maintain certifications as coaches, they don’t know how/why there are standards for all of the movements that we perform. In my opinion, educating CrossFitters about CrossFit creates a level of buy-in that orange theory wishes they could compete with.
Andrew, don’t stop posting. This is how we make changes. You got this.
Defining what is positive and what is negative. And people are too sensitive these days.
CEO says "ummm" too much.
Waaay too much
Just once I want them to specify exactly what is so negative and outrageous that Hiller produces. They’re so vague it’s exhausting.
As far as I’m concerned Hiller is bailing the sinking boat that is CrossFit while HQ continues shooting their own feet.
HQ: “Hiller is so negative!”
Hiller: “How?”
HQ: “I don’t watch your videos.”
😑😑😑
Is it me or can anybody else see this?
The heart and philosophy behind functional fitness, Greg Glassman doesn’t work for CrossFit but is contractually obliged to not engage in the movement until August this year. Hiller, Sevan and Pedro are the window to functional fitness content, they don’t work for CrossFit. There are functional fitness coaches around the World who are the hearts who spread the philosophy directly to the people, they don’t work for CrossFit.
Then there are a lot of suits, focused on balancing spreadsheets for increased profits, hitting quotas, farming out media access to maximise profits and produce shoddy content - these people are ALL paid by CrossFit.
CrossFit is the one major brand of the functional fitness movement, I can feel the hairs stand on the back of my neck as a perfect storm is beginning to form - are all these people who are NOT paid by CrossFit considering forming an alternate functional fitness organisation?
Idk. My gym uses the SugarWOD app and isn’t affiliated. We get along just fine.
It's not just the content but the presentation. Your dominance has been EARNED.
Im amazed how you find all the movie and cartoon clips that perfectly fit whats being discussed.
I'd say it is a gift. But I just think I have a screw loose
I would like Don and Dave to ask Affiliate owners if they are actually able to make a living on owning an affiliate. Most gym owners are breaking even or losing money from the gym owners I know. No one is making enough money to support themselves or their family.
It’s like buying a job for yourself. Your videos aren’t fear, there is some anger and outrage towards their poor decision making and they don’t want to hear it. They know what you are doing and they don’t want to fix what you are recommending probably because they have their own agenda and making money the way they want to make it. There’s a Bible verse about giving pearls to pigs. Your messages is pearls they don’t want to hear it. I’d like to see a video on the two media staff leads you mentioned Haines and Hearn. I know you can. They are ruining the media department.
As a truth, teller myself, I understand how people misconstrue when you’re saying something totally true about somebody. They have a vested interest in and that’s what you’re up against. You aren’t negative but when you’re saying something truthful about somebody in someone else’s circle, their feelings will turn it into, an attack
How many days until Greg Glassmans non-compete is up …
July ?
@@northern4112 August
august 15
Non-competes are not recognized in California...
Only good for 2 years in Louisiana and may be overcome
Most affiliates don't want those things. They don't provide enough value to justify an extra $1,500.
Does paying for the brand provide any value at all? only if your members are competing. How much is it ? $4500? If think if you make a raffle among all members that trained the whole year for $4500, you'll get more out of the money
I get the vibes from Don that he's always had "yes men" surrounding him in any leadership position he's had.
It's easy to feel that everything is positive when everyone around you says it's all great.
Light doesn't exist without darkness. There's nothing to look for if the other side doesn't exist.
He needs to realize how to handle the dark (read: outside criticism and reviews) so the light can shine that much brighter.
#BringBackCFMedia
Did you guys know Arielle Loewen trains out of her garage. (sarcasm)
NO WAY!!!
You’re the best. Keep this up. Be relentless!!
I fear dying in here, while my city burns, and there’s no one there to save it.
Great piece, again. PE forces company’s to focus on bottom line. What had made CrossFit so valuable in the past is the focus on wellness, concurring the most vexing health issue. The new owners have veered from that course. You need to keep doing what your doing.
What’s this vexing problem?
@@hardlylastchronic disease....you new?
One of the best vids so far.
Pedro said something “something “ killed me 😂😂
This reminds me of when I was a pastor of a traditional mainline protestant church. The national church was always creating resources that the local parish was to utilize to bring money to the national church. The problem was the local parishes were starving for lack of members and donors. But the national church would demand more revenues from the local church, so the national church could produce material to give to the local congregation to raise more money for the national church. But the local congregation was being used to death without any help from the national church. Congregations were closing left and right or withdrawing from the denomination and national church to focus on their own survival. Crossfit HQ seems to be doing the same thing. The affiliate is to be the marketing branch of the HQ so they can sell crossfit at a profit.
🦇 Andrew 🦇 You are doing the Fitness and Health GOD’s work sir!!!
I’m all in on this!
15 year affiliate here - not a 16th coming. We held on for a long time but we’re just not aligned with all of this PE drivel we’re getting.
This sucks
14 years down, no 15th for us, either. The name CF turns more people away than it brings in.
Andrew we live in a post truth world unfortunately and most people don't want to hear the truth. When you tell them the truth they play victim and say your being mean
Hiller!!!! Keep doing you!! CrossFit the real CrossFit community needs you and appreciates you! HQ has derailed!!
It’s not a lack of leadership. Sadly, any person, other than Greg, that has the money to purchase CrossFit would not be able to achieve what Greg and the original leadership did. This is in part due to the lack of Greg. Greg brought singular direction and focus, challenged the norms of the world. These where new to so many of us, or atleast it confirmed something you where practicing but didn’t know why. He also educated us, and got the community invested in fighting back against chronic illness, and sugar. Don wouldn’t start a fight with anyone one or thing, due to his companies stocks being attacked, shorted or bought out underneath him.
Keep this Energy Hiller and let God sort them out! Clearly the CPO is wanting to step down after just one video.
Jeeeez I haven't watched the interview but wow. @22:00 ish when he started talking about doing RUclips videos just for clicks is bad...omg how clueless can you be. No wonder no one outside of Crossfit is talking about Crossfit anymore. It's not a business first, it's a methodology that is a cure for health problems that was being talked about a few years ago, and now no one outside of Crossfit is talking about anymore. And it would be really cheap to push the methodology through RUclips (actually if they did it right they would be making money off clicks to fuel more videos and more clicks and more money to reduce affiliate fees to produce more affiliates which would lead to more clicks and more money). You own the word Crossfit, use it to spread information to teach everyone how to take care of themselves. I can't believe they are even trying to address "negative" videos. This is wild. Essentially, media wise, they are being out performed by Hiller, Sevan, Mayhem, etc. (who are all brilliant) and instead of upping their game to match, they just whine about the "negativity". F'in disaster.
Exactly. This company is a disaster from the top down.
edit..not the bottom, the boxes are generally awesome
The naked in the mall and mayonnaise sandwich analogies are A+
Also Dons just hiring a bunch of
He wants the Crossfit community to operate like Planet Fitness or a college safe space. Meanwhile in the old videos, TDC was driving around in his golf cart cussing up a storm and talking down to people. Hmmmm
Keep holding up the mirror, Andrew. We're behind you all the way.
Not negative. It’s not negative to speak the truth. I’d rather hear the truth even if I don’t like the way I feel. Vs hear just stuff that feels good. I also like listening to smart people who know what they are talking about. I like to learn
This was so good, I had to watch again.
It is evident that the main objective is to grow the brand of CrossFit to sell it. When if you have a good product (making people healthy) at a good price, you won’t have any problem selling what you are producing.
CrossFit is woke!!! Hiller keep doing what you’re doing - no publicity is bad publicity. You have me watching more about CrossFit.
And here we go...
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Thank you for your hard work Hiller. This is what the higher ups don’t want to hear, and won’t, but need to. They’ve lost their way. Real ones get it, and appreciate you. Great video. Start to finish 👍🏻
the corporate speech puts me to sleep
Keep being you Andrew 🦇✌🏻🤘🏻
Obviously they can’t stop watching your stuff!!😂😂😂
If people put out public statements or go on podcasts to speak then you set yourself up to receive feedback. Both positive and negative. If people don’t want feedback then they shouldn’t speak.
According to Don, he is ok with feedback and criticism, but it can't be "negative" or directed towards a single individual 🤷♀
@@bgg7518 then you need to limit who can give feedback then which requires not talking in public settings.
This is corporate 101 and they can’t even do that right. The things you say in meeting rooms and to the public are usually 2 different things for a reason.
Seems like half the management is more concerned about participation trophies and safe spaces.
Yup, he read this bullshit out of a 40 year old MBA word for word. None of this nonsense makes sense in the 2000's
Always do batman references
I agree about merit hiring. A return to a Meritocratic society is what we need in America right now.
Fully informed and equally entertained🙌🏻
Excellent slap in the face video Hiller, you're a professional sh!t stirrer and that's a good thing. I was really good at that also.
People get real defensive when confronted with inconvenient facts. The world needs people that are good sh!t stirrers to hold incompetence accountable.
Best video yet and I’ve watched them all. Well done Hiller
Awesome. Thank you
Hiller: makes one of the greatest videos ever on Haley Adams.
Don: Hiller negatively singles people out
"What............are the good decisions?" reeeeeally made me giggle. This guy is a Stanford b-school empty suit dressed up in athleisure.
This has been the problem across the board in the nation in industries. DEI hires based of skin color & feelings v.s merit & actual qualifications. Relax I'm Puerto Rican lmao.. Keep up the good work Hiller. Haters gunna hate & your supporters are going to support which overcomes the b.s. The engagements to your videos v.s the others speaks volumes 🤷♂
Don is woke you can tell by how he answers questions he plays the victim. He's basically saying Hiller is mean 😂
It’s not a mystery. Money wants more money. More money with this man and these people at the helm means more rules means more money. Before the current HQ’s time is over, affiliates will be required to jump through mandatory hoops that will cost more money, it’s the only thing that can happen from these standpoints of “making a healthy business.” This guy represents money, his money, and he’s trying to flip a business model that cannibalized it self after a social guffaw cost them their #1 revenue source. They had a chance to rebuild through their #1 avenue of communication, but instead are going through their 4th revision and are delayed and upset that the community is faster and more capable than they are at using media.
P.S. “CrossFit is dangerous”, but “criticism is constructive”, but only as long as it’s coming from HQ.
Hiller 3.0. Here. We. Go.
I’ll never step foot into an affiliate again as long as CF continues down this woke path of destruction. I’m going to spend 150 dollars a month and keep outfitting my garage gym and take their workouts and methodology and enjoy them at their expense.
Remember they can’t take back what they taught you/us.
You the man Hiller. Is it negative? Or just commentary? This community needs commentary/noise etc
Welcome to PE: buy, promise, downsize, sell. Rinse and repeat.
Keep it up Andrew, always on point from 🇰🇼
This is cool. Than you
CrossFit needs to hire you.
🗣️ “HEY HONEY!! There’s a new @hillerfit video, come quick… He pointed out the truth and hurt CrossFit’s feelings again!”- Me, probably weekly
Oh man hahahaha
It was a very good idea to wait for this. I’m sorry for the 4 hours you spent on watching again and again that interview tho 😂
Andrew, your stuff is great! Very honest, informative, and entertaining! It will be impossible for CrossFit to reach its 30,000,000 member goal without taking into consideration all you have said in the many recent videos about CF and the leadership. If they did watch more of your videos in full, like I have, they would know you are not trying to tear down the brand or any one person, but giving insight from many years as member, CF Open participant, past affiliate owner, and fan-boy (not sure if that's the right word) of the methodology and company. They can do like I do at watch at 1.5 speed if they don't have the time. They don't have to agree with everything, but really need a better understanding of your message.
i sensed something. it was too quiet after yesterday. there's a storm coming.
It’s wild that you literally take what they say and talk about it.
They get mad about it and passive aggressively rant about it in response to your videos.
Do they not know about video and audio recordings?
Clearly not 😂
They hate accountability and have weak backbones.
They are just accustomed to getting fluffed about anything and everthing they say
Why don't they just invite you to visit HQ? Show you around. Talk about how each party has similar goals. Find ways to add value to the community together. Etc.
If you're the enemy, wouldn't that keep you close? Like that old saying about friends and enemies?
They mostly work from home still
@@riley_s36 I wasn going to say. They would need an hq....
@@hillerfit location is irrelevant outside you of you missing out on a tour!
The 23’ Games video, coming out AFTER the 24’ Games make ZERO SENSE! Way to build up some excitement leading into the 24’ Games. The Buttery Bros can crank out content in days, not a year. And losing Woodland, puzzling.
Oh man I have been waiting for this.
At 13:38 Just when i thought Roza said the stupidest thing ever - he keeps talking.
I love my free garage and not paying an affiliate fee (minus the equipment I bought). May as well throw your money in the dumpster. Waste of money, 8-15 new leads per year wow. Again Chief People Officer😂😂😂😂
Dude! Don said that’s 10k in leads!!!!
@@hillerfit 😂😂😂
I don’t understand why HQ pay third party companies to collate the data on who is attending CrossFit classes. How about incentivising affiliates with a financial reward or slight reduction of next year’s fee when they report own numbers back to HQ on a monthly basis? And so the life cycle continues. Just an idea, and it would probably cost a lot less to HQs pocket whilst giving a little back to the affiliates.
I guess they need a third party for the data to be unbiased/accurate.
Although affiliates could share their data from BTW, Wodbuster, Sugarwod.... and other apps used by their members to sign up for classes
True, but it wouldn’t be hard to put together an evidence based procedure of some sort. I would argue that it would be more accurate than that a third party too. I’m just thinking out load 😊
Great job! Nailed it!
Common sense trumps woke every time!
Let's GO!!!!
….couple things about Annette Reavis I am struggling with since I am married to a CPA.
1 - Anybody notice her LinkedIn does not say she is a CPA. Maybe she is or maybe she couldn’t pass the CPA exams and that is why KPMG told her she could not be a partner.
2 - If Annette hates public accounting firms (KPMG) why did she later go back and work for Deloitte in HR who is a KPMG competitor?
She's the CPO (Cheif Peoples Officer)
@@hillerfit….she is CPO (Chief People Office) now. I’m referring to when she started her career with KPMG as a Tax Manager and said there was a “glass ceiling”. I’m wondering if the “glass ceiling” was actually caused by the fact she could not pass the CPA (certified public accountant) exams. I have no clue if she has or has not passed the CPA exams but I find that the first thing most CPAs tell you is they are a CPA and they always have it on their LinkedIn profile. 😂 If she could not pass the CPA exams then there was definitely a ceiling as no tax firm will make you a Partner in the firm without being a CPA.
So many good points!
I was planning to open an affiliate (here in Italy) but now I'm not so adamant. I'll open a gym and I'll help people that's for sure but not in their name and not to give them money so that they can sell the company to another vampire. "Black squares" damaged CrossFit so bad when they've cornered Greg.
Keep it up @hillerfit 💪🏻😎🦇
Top notch as always. Hopefully u are the spark that forces change.
Title by me
Great freaking video!
If this is truly a misunderstanding/Miscommunication, then invite Hiller to HQ and show him the reality of what is going on. If it's not keep yelling and screaming he is bad and hope people won't notice... Bad Plan!
They mostly work from home now, right? What is HQ?
Is there even an hq?
@@hillerfit great point!
Can you make us a bullet point with the “good decisions?” 🤣🤣🤣
“That we will completely ignore later”
In your videos, one thing that I appreciate the most, is that you don't say "like" once or more per sentence. You are in a huge minority of content creators in this space who does this. Why do so many people use the word "like" 3 times per thought/sentence? Good work on that alone Hiller. Makes you come across much more intelligent and well-spoken and it's easier to listen to.
Hiller a leader cannot be a leader when a puppet has a puppeteer