FINAL WHISTLE PRESENTS SIDE ENTRY: Hendrikse vs Feinberg-Mngomezulu vs Masuku 🦵
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Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu has been included in the Springbok squad for the Castle Lager Incoming Series, with Jordan Hendrikse and Siya Masuku on the standby list. Victor Matfield & Swys de Bruin debate who should be the third-choice flyhalf behind Handre Pollard and Manie Libbok.
Siya should watch this video of Victor saying he won't start for the Boks every day in the morning for motivation
I think Siya will make it through he will play against Portugal
Masuku is HIGHLY underrated
Masuku didn't come thru the ranks like all the other guys and that is what makes him even more special
Masuku was great for the cheetahs too should've picked him back then but springboks don't or didn't used to pick cheetahs or lions players
Guys this is BRILLIANT! We need more of these debates. Bring in more guests, make it more light hearted! This is incredible.
Agreed, this was pure quality
😂 these guys got heated. What a good problem to have, 4-5 flyhalves who can play for the boks!
At 26/27 it’s taken Siya a long time to get here. I feel he is the kind of guy who knows how to stay in the race long term. I believe he has not reached his limit yet. There is more to come!
It might be a Morne Steyn type situation, where the project players like Ruan Pienaar and others cannot deliver under pressure, and they eventually have to pick Masuku and once they do, he'll never look back
Sacha is def the future in my eyes. 🔥👌
To answer Victor around Siya Masuku. Let's not forget Mapimi. Same story.
Arguement weak really we almost did not have pollard at rwc 2023 with no back 27 is not old sexton was 35 or older at rwc 2023
@kaalvoet Are you comparing Masuku to a once in a generational player that started playing for Ireland at 19 I think? Surely not. Yeah he's good to try out if he's young or the best. He's neither. He needs atleast one more season of good form like anyone else. In fact he needs less than anyone else but half a season worth of bowl action (not the cup) doth not an innings make. He's got bmt. It's a shame he's only sprung on so late. If we just had a morne steyn I'd agree. But can we agree Masuku hasn't slotted a 52m penalty in any competition so he's realistically 4th behind Sasha. We only took one, then two flyhalves to the last WC. Let's get through Ireland and All Blacks maybe he can be let loose on end of year tours.
All good comments. I'm just saying Mapimi was also older.
We never know what will happen with injuries. I'd pick Sasha instead of Masuku any day. But rugby can be unpredictable.
Mapimpi was literally our best winger with kolbe at the time the next best was dyantyi who was banned and the combrinck and leyds we didn't arendse moodie and edwill have only recently come into springbok contention only in 2023 did mapimpi lose his first choice spot still a very good player I'd have trusted in rwc 23
funny, especially from Matfield who played till he was 38 :)
I must agree with Swys, Siya Masuku (not “ka”😅) needs to be given a chance to show everyone what he can do in a Bok Jersey.
He turns 28 this year... will be turning 31 in WC year... Time not on his side is the unfortunate reality. His lack of awareness like this is what always irks me about Swys. Such a good coach, of what is in front of him, but actual planning, awareness of future, tomorrow, not his forte, just huffs and puffs nonsense in that regard, was always a weakness of his.
Masuku is a stunning player...
I agree with both Victor and Swys. Time is not on Masuku's side in terms of future-proofing the Boks. But he should still be given a handful of games because, who knows... he may begin to outplay Handre and Mannie!! If Masuku doesn't shine, then no worries. We continue with our top 2 and with blooding the youngsters. Simples.
@@mjribes That makes no sense, he's a test match rookie just like Sacha and the other younger flyhalfs, thats why his age his biggest issue and hurts him so bad
@matthewvanrensburg3824 I don't disagree on the age point with respect to his longevity as a Bok - he only has 1 RWC in him. But if he's good enough to play, then age shouldn't be an issue. He's at least earned the opportunity to show us whether he's good enough for Bok rugby. If he is, then why would be not play him? If he isn't, then we move forward with Handre, Mannie and the other 2 rookies.
Hene Victor you were 38, almost a Grandpa when you played the 2015 World Cup. Now you make is seem as if 31 is retirement age.
That was his chomie Heyneke Meyer
And did we win the 2015 World Cup? And were there serious contenders to take the #5 jersey away from Victor for the 2015 world cup?
@@greenplasticgunI don't like singling out a player after a loss but with that 2015 loss to Japan Victor was the person I singled out. He was in the back line virtually the entire game, Schalk was covering an injured Morné and every single time a move was on Victor popped up at inside centre and carried the ball dead.
@@Jay-Leigh863 Sure. But my point in responding to Jeremy was that age can be a factor as shown in 2015. Especially when there are quality younger options at play, as is the case with Siya and the rest of the 10s we have access to.
Why waste time blooding a new player who will be old is a valid point. Its a waste of resources, end of story, especially with the talent competing against him and their age and real potential for the future which, unfortunately for Masuku, he is not, he has one WC in him, to focus and commit to him is a waste as will then need to find a new FH against afternoon, no continuity, its just bad planning and planning was always Swys' own downfall too, so no surprises he is entirely shortsighted like this here.
Gents the way you challenge each other and take feedback is awesome. American sport debate shows become divisive - this is quality! 👏👏👏
Nee Victor, jy praat twak. Siya Masuku is too talented to ignore. Hendrikse doesn't belong anywhere near a Bok jersey tho.
Masuku should be the number 2 over Libbok. They way Libbok kicks, its a coin flip if he is gonna have a good kicking game or not. That is terrible for a number 2 kicker. I would be more comfortable with Siya as the senior number 2 guy and Sacha as the third guy. And knowing how Pollard is prone to those long term injuries, I wouldn't be comfortable knowing that Libbok is next in line for big games
Too old, will be 31 year of next world. Why put resources into a new player who will only be relevant for 1 WC cycle when there is plenty talent competing against him who will be relevant for more? Its just poor planning, wasted resource, old Swys showing his weaknesses that cost him during his coaching days.
@@matthewvanrensburg3824 31 aint old for a world cup. Libbok will be 30
@@vik4741 Agreed. Libbok has shown time and again that he can't be relied on, especially in knock-out rugby. He's great at unpicking defences and initiating attacking plays, but Masuku has similar attributes but a vastly superior kicking game. It's time to give him a run of games.
Our best prospect at 10, however, is Sacha. 22 years old and nerves of steel. He's got the potential to be an all-time great, but he needs to be tested against elite opposition over a number of tests and we also need to see how he deals with adversity. Pollard has had multiple injury setbacks but that doesn't stop him from stepping up to the plate when called on. This is the kind of mentality we need for our flyhalf.
@@davesmith826masuku doesn't have similar attack attributes libbok is another level on attack depends on what his instructed to do if he has to kick all day its gonna be 50 50
The Sharks have Esterhuizen and Ethan Hooker, how is Masuku or Hendrikse going to play 12?
The original plan was to have Jordan at 10 and Masuku as backup, as the Sharks signed Jordan during the season before Masuku was given a shot at the 10 Jersey, but Masuku's current form has changed that, Sharks right now have the envious task of balancing game time between two really good flyhalves, basically in the same way that they have to balance game time between two world class Scrum Halves in Jaden and Grant.
@@bodybagnathanieldonato8241 I know
That's actually very enviable. If I remember right back around WC 07 they said it worked because the 9 and 10 were completely different. Fourie Du Perez for his tactical kicking and sniping breaks, James for his tackling and cross field kicks. So Hendrikse is known for his tackling robust defense like Butch he will go well with Jaden the tactical kicker like Faf is to Pollard. And Grant Williams can be a good foil for the more tactical kicking Masuku. I may be talking out of my ass.
@@wlk2408 You’re giving them too much credit. Theres 1 Bok cap between them. Theres still Pollard and Libbok, so it’s going to be difficult for more than that to make it in the next couple of years. Masuku is already older.
@@myshepspud1 You’re thinking too much about it. Masuku is very attacking, I wouldn’t call him a tactical kicker.
Hendrikse was dreadful for an hour. Give Masuku the same hour and then make a judgement. We're not saying pick him over anybody.
Same thing with Sacha Mngomezulu, we've been crying for Dobson to simply give him time at the 10 jersey and then make a judgment.
Rassie Erasmus doesn't want to admit that some of these "chosen one" academy players that they scouted out when those players were 12-16 years old aren't always gonna deliver the goods.
You cannot start a player at 10 for the Boks when he can't even be 1st choice in that position in his club side.
Aphelele Fassi didn't play Craven Week or SA Schools, so they chose him reluctantly and started saying he can't defend, meanwhile Willie is a revolving door 😂
They make certain criterias for others and don't keep them for others.
Willie is selected not for his defence but for his positional play. He reads the opposition lines from the back of the field and orders the backs and forwards into position. You don't see this on TV, because the ball is being played where Willie is not, but you will pick it up in a stadium. Everyone in the Boks set up know how important Willie is. The same is true for the Bulls. His performance against Leinster is the reason the Bulls beat them and his absence in the final is the reason the Warriors won.
I agree with the rest of what you said. Libbok has had his chance - more than many - and failed. It's time for Masuku to be given a starting berth with Sacha being blooded for the no. 1 role. Sacha has the highest ceiling of them all but we won't know how good he is until he's starting for club and country. Dobson is either being very clever in not playing him (making him angry, forcing him to improve) or very foolish (backing a busted flush when he's got a full house on the bench). Time will tell.
Sacha Feinberg MN is the future. And I am a Bull😊
Mgomezulu
@@dusnmatr wrong starts with MN
@@dusnmatrFeinberg-Mngomezulu!!
I just love watching the honesty between afrikaaners having a debate😂 "stuff your feelings" - they're not relevant.
Matfield was getting emotional 😂😂😂😅
Siya needs to watch this and work harder
Siya will make victor eat humble pie.
Siya has to overcome Pollard, Libbok, Sasha, Jordan, before he can attempt that. The pecking order isn't in his favor. 2 injuries and everything changes, but for now he's down the pecking order of 10s in the country. Which is a great place to be for Boks, cos Siya is a good player, but very untested at URC level. He's had 1/2 a good season.
@@greenplasticgun exactly, Libbok's goalkicking aren't up there but he has shown what he can do in the United Rugby Championship and was selected based on that initially (2022) has only lost 1 game for South Africa in a starting capacity. I wanna see how Siya play against Leinster, Munster, Ulster, Glasgow Warriors etc....and against the Stormers, Libbok vs Masuku.
Siya needs leap frog Pollard or Libbock in the next year. Maybe both. Pollard has been injury prone and Libbock has been inconsistent at times... So it's possible.
This aligns to what Victor is saying. He needs to be 1st or 2nd choice to get the game time against higher competition to cement his claim for the no.10 Jersey.
His biggest competition right now is Libbock & Sacha, as Hendrikse is yet to fire at that level.
Never know Rassie might decide to mix up where they all play eg:
10. Pollard/Siya
12. Hendrikse/Pollard/Sacha
15. Sacha /Willemse
It would be a scary threat having multiple potential drop goal kickers throughout the backline.
@@evanh8749 After 1/2 a decent season at URC level Siya has to leap frog double WC winner, BIL winner Pollard, and URC winner, WC winner, Libbok? You're dreaming.
@@greenplasticgun I'm suggesting it's only if Pollard or Libbock get injured or Libbock buckles under pressure, will Siya get a real opportunity. And... He has to out perform Sacha.
I'm saying it's possible. But a lot needs to happen that is out of his control.
i love this conversation, ery pragmatic and totally focused on quality
Am with Swys on this one
We should be talking about why Manie is above any one of those 3 players
Because he is a brilliant fly half and playmaker.
@@Karma-qt4ji But can't defend, he has the lowest tackles per match out of all our flyhalves, and has the 2nd worst kicking stats out of all our flyhalves. Attacking is just one part of his job, he cant do to other 2 (Defence and kicking)
@@jacquesventer3170so can't Pollard he cant defend
The problem with Manie is his consistency. He can be a match winner one week but a match loser the next week.
In my view manie shouldn't be second choice or even third choice. His kicking is not up to standard.Sacha had a good game and could be one for the future but I feel Masuku should have gotten opportunity over Jaden.
I disagree with Matfield. Players such as Steyn and Deon Fourie had opportunities at Bok critical positions well into their mid-late 30s. Siya is the player we need at 10. He’s a hungrier Pollard that can support Manie. And saying he’s at a lower level for the Sharks when they compete against the best European teams is disingenuous. I’m glad Russie is coasting and not Victor
@@Magz-101 agreed I mean Deon Fourie made his debut at 35. Masuku is currently 27. If he had to play consistently that would be 4 years of experience in the bok setup. I mean if 4 Motm awards in a row don’t get you a single game I would be p*ssed nothing more you can do
I think the difference is, forwards vs backs and the bomb squad. You need two great forward packs per game (+Deon’s versatility in positions counted for him). We hardly ever get a flyhalf replacement. The age of forwards are also on average higher than backs.
@@Spacemonkey-0-0 Frans Steyn blows that argument out the water.
@@Magz-101Frans Steyn was a world cup winning springbok at 19. He proved himself at international level and was a utility back. I was more referring to Deon who is the oldest springbok debutant. Not arguing against Masuku, just pointing out the difference. May the best players make it into the team for the good of the team.
@@Spacemonkey-0-0 But for Steyn to “prove himself” somebody gave him that opportunity. How will Masuku do that if he’s not given the same opportunity as Deon? Van der Merwe is 28, got his debut last week and was man of the match. Are you going to discard him now because he’s Masuku’s age and he’s also a back player? Masuku is a world class 10, turned the Sharks’ fortunes around and the Invested cup and URC are high level IMO. Transitioning from URC to Test rugby should be easy, it’s not like from Currie Cup to international.
I got the feeling that once Masuku is given a chance he would suprise a lot. I really want to see what he can do but I also believe his work from the Sharks will eventually give him a chance to prove his value to the Boks irregardless.
have to disagree with Vic, Siya has performed not only in the URC but also in EPCR against internationals, hes got the goods to replace Handre as the first choice. i would give him the portugal game, with jordan getting 20min - since we already know that sasha is the new utility back
Love that this is a proper debate.
The way that Sacha carried himself through his first test match (calm, steady and professional) suggests that this man is going to be the hottest international property in the 10 position. I would play Pollard and Sacha in the first test against Ireland to see what falls out. If the young man has got what it takes to perform at the highest level - why hold him back.
Actual non-fake honest to goodness disagreement and debate.
Heavens to Betsy!
Damn I missed this show. I enjoy watching our experts debating even though it can get heated at times.😂 where's Nick Mallet though?
I think Jordan Hendriks must stick with the Lions.
Been waiting for this to come back! Happy Days!
This mic is obliterating my ears
Sacha is the new Willimse and Willimse is gonna be first choice 15 and Masuku will get his shot and if Mani doesn't follow through then Masuku will get it. Atleast he will be third choice 10
I agree with both okes. If you think Siya bettee than Manie or Handre than play him. If not you just taking playing time from talented youngsters
Everything on this planet has a sell-by date and; unfortunately; Swys has reached that stage; I no longer tune into any comment or analysis that involves him because his knowledge and practical experience was yesterday's "maybe" it will work and it's aged quite badly.
Sad but true; time for Swys to exit stage left please....
Siya Masuku and Sanele Nohamba are both very good flyhalves. Both have a huge impact on their teams. If im choosing between the 2 im going with Nohamba. Sacha is the same kind of player. He makes things happen. So far he looks like the right choice between the three. You could potentially have Sacha, Manie and Willemse on the field at the same time and that i would love to see
As much as I love Siya, I have to agree with Matfield. You can have a Captain reserved to the bench from here on. We need a new Captain. Who that will be I don't know. I personally don't think Moerat is the answer.
I believe it is important to reward form ,if the portugal game was never going to be of any significance, that would have been a perfect game to give someone a chance as a reward for their incredible effort, not giving Siya a chance will destroy players that were not fortunate enough to be part of the system, if you are in great form you must get an opportunity, Deon won a world cup playing hooker at what age ,come Victor give the man a chance
Victor has lost his mind, why would we have Libhok in the mix? kicking at goal has always been vital for the Boks and he simply isn't trustworthy in that department.
This argument will continue on and on for decades to come so long as SA Rugby is not committed to the growth of Rugby in the continent. By now Boks v Namibia should be a huge derby in the continent. Develop the sport in the continent so that you could more strong inter country club competitions as well as international games.
It’s really sad to hear a legend of the game talking crap about a team who beat the Boks regularly…(including a WC) Have you said to much guys??
Siya is a good flyhalfs... Sasha is more virsatile player and fit the whole which Damian willimse injury left.. That's y I believe rassie went with him instead of siya
If Siya keeps this form through the world cup build up for the next 3 years, he'll definitely be a force to be reckoned with. I hope he shuts a lot of mouths
For years we waited for discussions like these on Supersport .thank goodness the nonsense Naas used to talk about is gone ...Naas give him his duo he was a marvelous player but he was a pooor pundit
Are we not looking for Manie's replacement? Manie has had plenty time to sort out his kicking, going as far back to the Sharks days and still cannot kick, so I doubt he will ever will be able to improve on hit and miss days.
Goal kicking wins games and than God all the fools out there realised this during the RWC.
We talking about test match rugby not club, If you want Manie playing, use him for games like Portugal. What we need is a real No.2 goal kicker and Sasha could possibly fill that role based on the last match, but we wont really know until he has played 10-15 tests. Hendrikse gets the inside edge because he is on the EDP system, but Masuku has come kicking at the door and at some point deserves a look at. Agree, Masuku didnt look so impressive against the Bulls, even missed a few kicks, the look on his face showed something too. ( You always look better behind a strong forward pack, its when you are on the back foot your true ablity is tested).It's still early, he needs to get to grips with Springbok culture, but he needs to be given a go at least on the end of year tour if not Portugal now that he has been called up. Personally I'd like to see him play more at the Sharks before he is given a cap. He is young enough for a RWC but still very raw. Is he blossoming late? Well, we need to find out dont we, but No.2 goal kicker should be what we are looking for and eventually a No.1 goal kicker as Pollard wont be around for ever.
So are we really looking for a No.3 goal kicker? Surely not.
Just because you hate libbok doesn't mean hes gonna go won a urc and a wc thats already better than our pas bok 10s
Liked matfield as a player and not as a person, now i completely understand why... disgraceful.
Very nice. Feels free and unscripted awesome. Enjoying the banter
The same they did to elton jantjies they destroyed his career he was a far accurate kicker than pollard and libbok
Brilliant! Great craic, great debatings. More please. God bless 🏴☠☘
Jordan Hendrikse had by far the best defensive numbers of any flyhalf in the URC last season. That’s how he made it, and he’s only 22.
Jordan might find himsekf being a bomb squad facilitator. He can play 10 /12 /15. A la F STEYN the OG. And Damian Willmse. He can enable 6:2 split should they wnat that
Defense isn't important for a flyhalf willemse had good defense but was not a good flyhalf
@@kingpower4631 You don’t know what you’re talking about? Willemse was a great flyhalf, he’s just a bad kicker.
@@jameswyatt4443 so then libbok is a great flyhalf but a bad kicker saying you don't know what your talking about is pompous and childish
@@kingpower4631 Yes, Libbok is a good flyhalf. He’s also a bad defender and bad kicker. I don’t know why you think bringing up Libbok proves your point, it doesn’t. And you don’t know what you’re talking, defense is very important, even for a flyhalf.
I respect Victor, but Swys is right.
And something Victor isn't admitting is that Siya probably IS the 2nd best flyhalf based on what we saw all season ... Manie is only there on last years reputation and the legacy of his performance in two matches ... the Twickenham warmup vs the All Blacks, and the RWC game against Scotland. This year Manie has been good one out of three matches ... same as he was at the RWC and the buildup to it through the Rugby Championship. One out of three isn't good enough for the Boks ... it puts the team under too much pressure, especially with missed kicks and points.
Libbok was thrown into the deep end, but no excuses. He only lost one game for South Africa missing 5 points in a starting capacity, emphasis on starting capacity.
All our world cups got won with experience I'm just saying
Why is the quality so poor? Who is doing the SEO for Supersport?
No way masuku play at 12 since sharks signed Andre estreshuisen
Can someone please remind Matfield how old he was when he retired? Talking about how old Masuku will be in 4 years' time, It seems like he has amnesia.
Audio sucks or is it my iPhone?
Your phone
Have to agree with Victor Matfield !! Sacha and Jordan is the future and currently Handre and Manie. Unfortunately Masuku was too late with his Brilliant play. 🤔
Yoh Victor Matfield. Rugby royalty
Why is your sound so kak ny man please do better shocking
Masuku is fire! But Victor has a legit point about future-proofing the Boks. That said, I'd definitely want to give him a handful of matches to test his metal. Who knows, he may start outperforming Handre and Mannie. If not, no problem... move on.
how is it SuperSport can't get a proper audio guy?
Masuku was at 67% for polls in the URC,Libbok 73%.Masuku is also 27 years old compared to Hendricks 23 years old.Jordan is going to the Sharks as a no.10.
All good points from Swys and Victor, but 31 isn't old for a flyhalf. Mapimpi was also a late bloomer in a position that requires more athleticism. There are always outliers and exceptions at that level; not many, but there are some.
He wasn't a late bloomer he was great since his southern kings days
Libbok can be Fly half, but please get somebody else to kick .His kicking tee is way to high, and he is losing control of direction because of it.
Esterhuizen is new 12 at Sharks bro, Hendricks was decided on before Siya came good .. now they 2 decent 10s at Sharks . good work
Any player young or old can become better, unfortunately there's only so many spots available
I love Siya Masuku .. but I have to think Victor is probably on the money here.
Rassie is still confusing you lot 😂
Yoh I like the vibe from these 3🔥
South Africa squad selection too deep these days
Nohamba is better than all of them
Nohamba is better than all of them
When people argue age I will say atleast that Mapimpi was found pretty "late" in his age career. I think he was 28 at the Japan WC. But I do feel it makes a mockery of what many players grind for years.. When you selected off one good season and not head and shoulders above the rest. The only reason you'd do that is to groom. Which is the arguement for Hendrikse. mngomezulu we'd all agree is a multi talent his many positions and age put him ahead. So to me though he has showed BMT, which is one of the most important things even Manie, a talented seasoned veteran now, can get wrong. But he needs one more season. If he's the real deal the cream will rise to the top he will be about Pollard's age at the last WC by the next WC, I don't see how he can't force his way through the squad by the end of year tours earliest injuries happen.
Mapimpi was 30 but he was genuinly our best winger
Gcobani quite aggro on Swys
When majority of South African's wanted Siya to be given a chance to prove his worth many were disappointed. Rassie hasn't written him off he said this week that he needs more time to integrate with the boks way of doing things which is fair Pollard is 30 so Siya being 31 in 4 years time doesn't mean anything. Look what happens when Pollard retires he has just had a kid married family life is he going to be there at 34-35 at WC time in 2027 we don't know 50/50, therefore you need 3 now and if 1 is injured you have the same as Faf, Cobus and Williams. If he keeps his kicking form definitely up there.
As a new player investing in, being 31 means alot, no comparison to Pollard as last WC, him being over 30, is twilight of his career, not the beginning of it, exactly the issue with Siya here, Pollard wasnt 30 for his first WC was he.
Both Swys and Victor make great points. I do think with his age profile, it is really hard for Siya to have a bok career, just because he is behind Pollard and Manie in experience and behind Jordan and Sasha in future potential. That being said, I think, currently, Siya is better than all of our flyhalves. Whether that translates to the test level, we don't know, but I feel like he really should get a chance to prove himself. I hope he gets a shot against Portugal and then another chance against a Argentina or Australia in this year's RC. The boy is a proper proper baller.
If we’re 4th what are ye🤣🤣🤣
Even though I’m a sharks supporter, I agree with Victor on this one
What did i just watch😂😂
Wasn't Masuku URC player of the year?
I love Swys but Victor is right here.
deon fourie
love it well done guys i agree with both of them
Pollard
Sacha
Siya
Hendricks
Libbok
Its a good problem to have, however am not convinced Pollard is an obvious 1st choice I think all of them must be given a chance to prove themselves.
You're not convinced the guy who single-handedly won us three knock-out games in the last World Cup is first choice?
You can't put Libbok above Pollard. Pollard was brought in to provide the composure Libbok clearly lacks. Nor can you put any of the other contenders as they are either too young or untested at international level. Pollard is no. 1 until someone else arrives who has his composure, defensive acumen, and a better passing game. In my opinion, that someone is Sacha but he needs a year or two of starts for both club and country to confirm his place.
@@davesmith826 I hear you bro, Pollard was solid. Would'nt say single handedly won us the world cup, but will agree that he was instrumental. His experience counts. Unless we give the other lads a chance to prove themselves will never know. Pollard has failed to fire at club level. He is not the best with ball in hand and his not effective when passing on the run. He is good with the boot but so are the others.
love it, a healthy rugby debate.
I kinda agree with Victor
rugby mag post full analysis
I agree with Swys
Good debate gents
Great lively debate!!!
View it from Rassie's perspective, because that's the only perspective that counts. Matfield is right. Rassie doesn't throw away guys he knows and trusts for the sake of an inform player from "outside" the system.
Siya, who's only had half a good season, would have to overcome and outshine....Pollard (Siya doesn't have his experience, talent, big match temp) , Libbok (Siya doesn't have his attacking ability and Siya's goal kicking % is similar to Libbok's in URC), Sasha/Jordan (Siya doesn't have their youth and hasn't been in the system like they have and neither of them had bad URC campaigns. So realistically, Rassie is looking for a third choice 10 after Handre and Manie. Siya just isn't in the conversation after 1/2 a good season with the Sharks.
Players like Louw and David Kriel and even van Wyk have been knocking on the door for years now with fantastic performances in the URC but why would Rassie abandon the likes of DDA, Jesse, Am, when they're so established with so much winning experience, unless age was a big factor.
We may see age become a factor with Pollard, Am, Kolisi moving into the second and third year of this WC cycle, at which point the likes of Masuku would bump up the list with players like Sasha/Manie/Jordan still ahead of them in the pecking order.
Do supersport not have a budget to invest in better quality microphones? There are RUclipsrs who have better microphone quality than what these guys are using
I heard everything perfectly.
@@thegreytone yes I can hear everything. But the quality of the microphones are poor
@@alexlemon27 sorry to hear...I didn't have such issues
@@thegreytone I'm a musician so I have an ear for these things. There is a slight distortion when the guys talk. Better microphones will not have that slight distortion
@@alexlemon27 i get u...do u like Michael Jackson?
Love the debate😂
"Love this"
Passion
Siya is too old and not got the legs
Swys moet uit
Hoekom?
Bro, the translation from google says "Switzerland has to get out" - hahahahaa