Ghost of Tsushima Director's Cut - PS5 Upgrades Tested - The DF Tech Review
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- John Linneman and Rich Leadbetter sit down to discuss the improvements made to Ghost of Tsushima as the title transitions from PS4/PS4 Pro/PS5 Back Compat to a native PlayStation 5 game. Just how much of an improvement is the PS5-centric code - and what about the updates to combat and controller mechanics?
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These are the type of games my friends and I dreamed of at 7 years old while snes battled genesis. So busy now there isn't loads of time to play them now. Still glad they are here.
I wish I could upvote this twice but here we are
Oddly specific
This is the state of being grown but still having that inner spark of our adventurous younger selves.
So true!
I agree with you. Last year I thought that no game would exceed FFVII remake for me, but when I played Tsushima I just thought "This is the game that I have dreamed of playing ever since I was a kid" Now I'm 32 and dying to go back to the director's cut
Digital foundry makes such great videos to chill and relax, while learning a lot about the technical side of software and hardware.
However the fact that they never switched from Water stance really tested my OCD
@@balazsh2 😂😂😂
facts
I gotta say they under sell this upgrade. If you go from ps4 version straight to this one as I did its phenomenal.
@@CarlosMartinez-ix1yo *changing stances to fit the enemy type is the best, DF tried flurry strikes on swordsmen and it doesn't even start to break their defenses, while 1 piercing strike would kill them. same goes for spearmen and brutes
Going from 30fps to 60fps is such an improvement in smoothness that it alone might sell me if I'm interested in the game.
It was already 60fps playing the PS4 version on PS5 without the upgrade/PS5 version.
Wait until you go to 144fps
@@TQT1995 not as “groundbreaking” as going from 30 to 60 though.
Its night and day isn't it. If anyone doesn't want the upgrade they can still play 1800p 60 . So I don't get why people are complaining it has 20hr plus dlc aswell
@@justinsaponari Sure, but I was comparing playing it on PS4 Pro at 30fps, and then playing it on PS5 (which nobody can, because PS5s are still impossible to get.) My comment applies to PS3 and PS2 remasters too, though. Going from 30 to 60 is a massive improvement.
native framerate = 60fps
"performance mode" = 60fps
*visible confusion lol
No it's awesome it really is I'm doing the poems, the hikus or whatever. I never did that in ps4 version. Absolutely impressive.
Yeah, considering the PS5 is supposed to get VRR at some point, it might have been more useful to unlock the framerate and adjust the resolution... Wish developers would think longer term
:)
I never played this on PS4 but I got it on PS5 the detail is astounding I particularly love the grass, details on flowers and little things like leaves in the air and leaves that have fallen on the ground being moved by your steps.
It’s a lot of nifty little touches that make it all better.
The adaptive triggers and dual sense haptic vibration add a lot to the experience.
Also I love love this type of setting.
Shut ur mouth
The setting and the whole design is so compelling that I completed it 100 %. I've probably never done that in any game before.
Personally found it rough and generic
@@Dd-fb2tj yeah i was pretty disappointed with the game because:
1. Story was nothing special
2. All side quest were the same and boring usually goes like: lord sakai, someone mongols/bandits raided our home. Then you proceed to follow foot prints, kill the enemies then boom done.
3. World was the most beautiful in any game i played but didnt have anything to discover so it got really boring.
4. Combat is amazing but becomes eay too easy at the end of the game since you become OP
@@edrick8797 it's a bit weird, but I would mostly agree. I also found many side quests kinda generic and there was too much repetition. But still, the game somehow totally got me.
Same like i liked the game and got the platinum trophy for it but its super generic and literally doesn’t offer anything new .
@@herreichhorn0.0 yup i finished it in 1 week and platinumed the games because i still liked it regardless
Only game I’ve ever bothering getting the platinum for. Excellent content as usual, fellas!
It's the only game my mate Bad has ever gotten the plat for as well. This was my GOTY for the year it was released, and I love the expansion and updates.
Same lmao
@@ramonandrajo6348 You’re out of your mind.
Wish I could, got full completion but one of the trophies glitched out so no plat :’(
Easiest platinum I have.
I'm really glad to hear about the save data transfer. I can't wait to explore the new Island on New Game+ and try out the haptics 👍
I just hope Sony goes back and adds it to all the other PS5 upgrades. They have some catching up to do
i tried the ps5 controller back in january with this game, it's great! (though i hate consoles and fcking controllers)
@@PartyQuest controllers are better for certain games like hack and slash and racing games (unless you have a wheel).
Same
@@PartyQuest The game didn’t have haptics and adaptive triggers then.
Thanks for putting a light on the Poor PS4 to PS5 edition upgrade process.
the FF7 remake save transfer was a nightmare. I transfer my main 3 saves and didnt bother with the rest. Seriously, one cloud save at a time? hHAHAHAHAH
These additional 10 bucks for the upgrade from the PS4 version to Ps5 is simply unnecessary.
The 20 bucks for the extension itself are totally fine.
@@leonthesleepy i definitely lost my FFVII RE save cuz i didnt look into it enough, assumed psn cloud save was doing it's job and upgraded to ps5 version. have to play thru to abzu all over again.
Yh happy it's fixed now I think they have done something to back compat in general now after seeing the PS5 versions of Warzone, Rocket league etc.
@@MisterReen I think it's for the Japanese audio and Dual sense integration I imagine it would take a bit of work to implement those new features. But agree they should of just said 20 quid and you get the expansion and new features for PS5.
The PS5 upgrade really should be free.
Agreed
There technically already was a free ps5 upgrade but I get you.
Right.
Got to make money.
I guess In a way it’s free but it does come with the dlc
I loved when I loaded up my imported save file, all the trophies that I unlocked on the PS4 popped up one after another rewarding me the platinum right away.
Glad you said it, i was actually planning on getting platinum from the scratch on ps5 ;]
I thought that was really satisfying too.
It really was nice. Also did that on FFVII Remake.
@More porns in my channel. iron deficiency
Do I need the ps4 version of the game to do that ?
DF: There's *visible* artefacts on the image
Video: Zooms at 5000x to show it
On MFS though that many things are just 2d flat blurry images everything is great for them...
When the image is native 4K with the update, how can you have checkerboarding?
It's just the graphics-style of GoT.
@@kostasbousbouras2654 because MSFS world is insanely bigger, not to mention it's a much more complex game do to it's sim nature it has to actively simulate tons of things, which is why the game is so demanding.
Ghost is a game genre that's been done before plus their charging ppl for the upgrade
Lollll they're so garbage
Haha true
I'm glad yall went over it. Answered all the questions I had!. I'll be upgrading to the directors cut when It comes out tomorrow
I think Ghost of Tsushima had my favorite artstyle/graphics from last gen. Every single time I went into a new area I was amazed at how good it looked. The weather systems, reaching the top of the mountain and watching the flowers bloom, the moving foliage...it's really something special to see.
There's nothing 'last gen' about the game lol
@@WardenOfTerra except the fact that it came out…last gen…
I don't really see the need for two performance modes in this game since the resolution mode is a locked 60 fps. If there was another mode, I think a true 4k, max visual settings mode at 30 or 40 fps would kinda make sense.
Resolution mode is not “locked” at 60 fps
I'm seeing lots of situations where I get frame dips in resolution mode. So yes, there is a reason for performance mode. Just because they didn't see any situations in 6 hours of playing, doesn't mean some of the minor quests or later areas dont have frame dips
I would imagine they would either; lower render resolution slightly whilst maintaining filmic rendering techniques / visual effects or the other way around which will use less processing space and will be able to perform much more smoothly.
Yes they're both running 60 but performance mode will be taking up less gpu memory and as a result will receive less frame drops.
@@07acanoia is lock 🔐they said it themselves
They should charge people who already bought the PS4 version 10.00 for the expansion and PS5 upgrade. I've already payed 59.99 for the PS4 version why should I pay 90.00 when people who buy for the first time on PS5 pay 70.00?
Ghost of Tsushima good, you bad, don't criticise, just consume.
Because sony is happy that you bought a PS5 so they give it to you $20 cheaper as a thank you. Many games do this, the complete edition of a game maybe is like $70 but if you buy the game they buy the dlc later on your paying extra, its to encourage users to make bigger purchases at once because they feel like they will save money in the long run. Perfect example is dark souls 3 season pass is $25 for both dlc, but if you pay seperately its $15 each. This is a common and effective marketing tactic.
I think its priced at a way to stop people buying a cheaper pre owned copy for say 30 dollars and upgrading that. Just seems to me this ps5 version isnt worth it anyway. Seems kinda pointless. Should have just made it 20 for the DLC for everyone and added some bells and whistles with that
@@TheEPICskwock Xbox wouldn't have done that.
@@AJ-xv7oh
The expansion and update are $30 for PS5 and just $10 for PS4.
From the visuals alone it’s not worth it, but I’ve heard the expansion is pretty good.
Could the High-Performance mode make a difference for the online horde mode? You can have dozens of enemies on screen at a time with multiple explosions, being triggered from 4 different team members.
Yeah I have yet to see anyone test online coop.
I’d imagine it would, especially if there are drops in high res mode on ps5. Depends on how much they optimized too.
Yes
@Rodela5 just stop
@Rodela5 or DF didn’t think about that scenario before. I sure didn’t because I never played Ghost’s multiplayer
I love that Linneman maintains the fire for physical media. It's a moot, romantic argument of a bygone era, but it's appreciated.
Yeah, I finally understand my dad and why he still loves his vinyl records.
If I didn't share my ps4 library with my brother i would have all of my games on disk.
Today it's unfortunately trash, no more pretty manuals, only the plastic box and a bunch of useless stuff. Always hated optical disks, won't miss them.
I’m preferring digital now but physical must be championed. Unlike an open platform as seen on PC, digital on console is much more precarious/delicate
Anyone that was around for the ps4/xbox one launch knows the value of physical media
TBH the game already looked awesome on PS4 and the resolution improvement is great to see. Still, I was like stunned by the beauty of the environment and fauna movement on the PS5 Version. I am already fine with that. :)
30FPS in 2022 is for clowns
@@nguxurr9667I still play bloodborne on my ps4 in 2024 which is almost constantly below 30… I think you’re just spoiled.
I think this might be one of my favourite games of all time. The combat system, the story, the characters, the music, the world.... everything is 10/10 for me. I find myself doing every sidequest cause they are so unique which is a first for me in a open world game. (Ubisoft! Shame on u!)
Everything is great except the story. After Act 1 it starts to lose its focus, and by Act 3 the villain is unceremoniously dispatched in a rush to get to the finale. It slowly starts getting less interesting the further you go along. At least it’s still fun to play.
@@lordbauer5983 they stealth is horrible nd its all about the ghost
@@charlescc58 It’s not as engaging as Hitman’s stealth or even AC’s.
@@lordbauer5983 I definitely disagree I think the story gets better as each act goes on and I think both endings are incredible
@@mister-pinkman That makes one of us then. I still think Act 1 and its sidequests were the best portion of the game. It gets too long in the tooth by the end. I’m still disappointed that the Khan is basically pushed to the side by the climax of the story.
I have never, not once used the lock target feature in this game, didn't know it existed up until this video XD and I beat it on hard without ever hardly dying. It's probably for the best as most fights involve many enemies and zooming in like that keeps you from noticing other enemies attacking you
Spider-Man upgrade : 60fps, 120fps, RT, haptic feedback, 3D audio, upgraded textures for PS5 remastered levels.
GOT upgrade: upgraded resolution... Sucker punch is a joke .
And Spider-Man MM upgrade was free.
PST: Spider-Man R or MM doesn’t have a 120FPS mode
I wouldn’t go that far
Despite this not being made with Atmos in mind, it sounds like it was with the latest Atmos patch. I imagine most that wanted to play it already have, but I recommend this to people who love a cool, and relaxing ambiance in games. Play the flute to get thunder or play it to get birds, with swaying and crackling trees. It just sounds great. You can't get that on PS4 either so it makes the update slightly more worth it.
I am one of the rare few that never played the original release. Always wanted to just never did. Glad I waited to experience the director cut with next gen features, looks amazing!
Same here. Always was on top of my “I’ll get around to it” list, glad I waited now.
me too! Day one ps5 purchase !
Rare few🤣🤣
Cmn dudealmost nobody played this game(i bought it day one) but of a 100 million consoles 6.5 million copies represent the few who played it
Super jealous. Would love to play this for the first time again and even more so now on PS5.
I owed the game and never fired it up.. now I can play the Director cut.
Please don't tell me it still doesn't have 16x AF. I am so sick of developers being stingy with that. It costs barely any performance at all and it's benefit is IMMENSE.
Honestly that is xboxs best backwards compatibility feature aside from res boost and fps boost. It's such an underrated improvement that should be mentioned with fps boost as a great xbox feature because honestly, it makes a huge difference on last Gen games
It does impact performance but only when you run out of memory. It's like texture resolution. If you have the memory for it, then it barely affects fps. But the game starts stuttering if you run out of memory. The consoles have less overall memory than many PCs (which have both VRAM and system RAM).
@@WolverineBatman
This is a last gen game with barely any improvements no reason why it shouldn't be here especially because the series consoles force that on every last gen game played on the newer consoles.
@@WolverineBatman the consoles don't have system ram, it's a unified pool of RAM and there's also plenty of it. 16 gb is more than enough. One X only had 12 and RAM was never an issue and still hit higher res in many games so far than series X.
I thought last Gen had the cpu excuse but this Gen no longer has that excuse or the RAM excuse. 16 gb is more than enough to handle the tiny 2 fps hit (if that)
Either way, I'd rather have a 10 fps drop than have pointlessly blurry textures anytime they're at angle. Honestly it's more important than the texture res itself. At least with 16 X af the visuals are consistent
Can't wait! The visual effects are intriguing and immersive. Looking forward to exploring Iki Island !
Oh my God, I was going to come to your last video to beg you to do an analysis of the ghost of tsushima directors cut on PS5. And here it is! I'm so excited to get this tomorrow. The game looks amazing enough as it is in backwards compatibility 60fps on PS5.
Same. I got a PS5 a week ago and this will be the first native ps5 game I’ve bought and this is one of the games I really wanted the PS5 version for. Can’t wait to finally play it in higher quality.
@@LividCreature its not even close to a native ps5 game. They literally said its basically the same game from ps4 with checkerboarded 4k lmao the original ps4 version already runs at a high quality 1800p with 60frames. The game is basically the same just a bit sharper
@@LividCreature yeah if you want something to showcase next-gen, get Miles Morales with Spider Man Remastered. Ghost is not going to cut it.
@@MubeDSO you’d think this would easily be doing native 4K since they literally didn’t touch the graphics at all. Also 120hz support
@@coladapo3 true! What a waste
Have my 4Ktv and ps5 ready for this game tomorrow first playthrough.
You're gonna love it! Fantastic game
Have fun! The game is sensational! Be sure your hdr is set up right on your tv/ps5!
pay up
@@caknelson2254 We can afford $10. Its okay, move on.
@@caknelson2254 I am paying up! I haven’t bought the game yet since I was waiting for PS5 version and now it’s out and I can buy the full game at a full game price.
I get the expansion part, but why didn't they just give the upgrade out for free and just charge for the expansion by itself?
Sony really really wanted the extra 10$! Greedy as f*ck Sony.
The deluxe edition upgrade content from it's release is also included, so basically I'm paying for that a second time. Not super psyched about it.
It's only 10$ dude quit being cheap
@@garypurdy4982 Quit getting ripped off by sony.
@@garypurdy4982 send him the $10 if it isn't a big deal. I'm sure you can send him a PSN card.
The lack of next-gen features is really disappointing when you consider this is a paid upgrade. There's been free PS5 upgrades with more enhancements. :/
There's a whole new island to explore, virtually locked 60fps and dynamic 4K now and haptic feedback. That's worth £25 to me easily :)
@@MorrisseyMuse Iki Island is part of the expansion, not the upgrade. The game was already locked to 60fps running in backwards compat. mode on PS5 so you're only really getting a dynamic 4K mode, japanese lip sync and the haptic feedback... for 10$.
Just for comparison, DOOM Eternal had a free upgrade with Ray Tracing & 120fps modes, and id is a Microsoft Studio.
@@MINUANOGAMING I exactly agree with you Johnny Cash, but at least there is adaptive trigger support for bow and arrows though at least:)..where Skyrim didn't implement them which is a shame/bummer:(.
I love how you feel subtle vibration while sprinting in grass and then it gets more intense when you sprint on rock or a bridge
I’m just waiting for when we’ll be able to hop into photo mode during cutscenes and move around the scene, that would be so awesome
Well I mean on PS5 native it should be possible since now it's truly not prerendered anymore
Great idea
"Visible artefacts" = zooms 500% at the image
I know right, but DF didn't feel it was necessary to do the same thing to Flight Simulator on Xbox Series X|S. The hypocrisy in some of these analyses is beginning to show. Seems like they downplay CB rendering, but praise DLSS, same concept and similar results. If Xbox did it, there would be videos on how revolutionary it is for a console to achieve high frame rates and excellent image quality. The game looks and plays amazing, I'm going to see what NX gamer says, at least I know he hasn't been cashing those MS checks. Lol at them trying everything they can to get the framerate to drop, they seemed very dissapointed 🤣.
@@Pimp-lc7vk I really doubt the DF guys would be stupid enough to undermine Playstation deliberately. Playstation's user base is much bigger than Xbox's. But it's strange, indeed.
@@Pimp-lc7vk not comparable, because at the end of the day, flight sim is procedurally generated on yahoo map. It is bound to have some weird artifact's and issue's
This video was surprising, some of the reviews for this make it seem like this is some new crazy jaw-dropping upgrade. I bought it and will see for myself but I'm a bit miffed that other reviews hyped the visuals so much and in reality, it just seems like a modest upgrade.
The haptic feedback on the triggers is quite nice... I love using the hook to pull objects since you'll get a fair amount of resistance, then it'll let go suddenly when the object is pulled, giving more immersion, you'll feel your finger sink down more, it's cool. I'm kinda stoked for a PS5 specific version of RDR2 just for the haptics, it'll make duels a hell of a lot easier since I'll know how the trigger feels.
that Sony check cleared. How else does a game with an 83 on metacritic get called GOTY?
@@KidJustice123 Where are you getting the GOTY declaration?
@@KidJustice123 just salty you can’t play it on PC
I truly love this game, finished it twice on my PS5, absolutely gorgeous and so much fun.
But sorry, I don’t think this update is worth 50% of the original price.
agree
Yup, think I'm going to finally open/play the og PS4 version i got for cheap last year at 60 fps on my PS5 for free...eventually lol
It’s because it comes with a 15 hours expansion dude wym
30,- is not 50%
@@kraenk12 30 is 50% of 60 smart one
Disappointed that they weren’t able to fix the pop-in issues. Really the only thing that was majorly distracting on my PS4+Patch play through.
Rest of the game is drop-dead gorgeous.
my only real complaint with the game still has to be the claustrophobic camera. it's just way too close sometimes & hinders exploration & combat. it's hard to appreciate the beautiful world they created when 50% of my screen is jin's back
In 9:29 you can see that physics animation has improved. In the original tech video, there was a complain that jin's feet didn't realistic interacted with the terrain, now it seems to be fixed
That’s actually a nice change but was that change really from improved hardware or more time?
@@coladapo3 both i guess
I liked the decision to not have target lock. It forces you to have a higher situational awareness
Why would you have less situational awareness with lock on? The issue was that keeping the camera on the current target was a pain and took away from the flow of combat when you always had to take your thumbs off the attack buttons to move the camera. But now we also have different control schemes that would allow you to keep you finger on the attack buttons R1/R2 while using the stick for camera control. Options are good.
@@MasterMayhem78 Yes the camera loses lock often (or tries to make some dramatic camera swoosh) but your characters is still maintaining it's lock. you can easily attack in any direction regardless of the camera so with high situational awareness (having a mental map pf the world and knowing what is where, in which direction it moves and so on) you can still attack the desired enemy because you can compensate in your head for any camera direction. the moving camera makes everything more dynamic, statically locking it to an enemy would be lame imho and take something away (it's clearly modelled after some cinematic style camera movement). Also, you are constantly attacked from many directions concurrently, in my mind camera lock would make it very tedious. But I agree, having options is good.
No it doesn't lol. This is dumb to say.
Give us the option to select between 30 and 60fps for cutscenes - don't limit it to just 30.
Hearing SP upgraded cutscenes from pre-rendered to real-time had me excited for 60fps cutscenes. It's just a little jarring constantly switching from 60fps gameplay to 30fps cutscenes.
I also think it would've been nice to swap the rendering technique from checkerboard 4k60 to say, a native 1800p60 output. Obviously a performance RT mode like Insomniac offers would've been an extra mile, but it would've been nice.
Slightly disappointing for a paid PS4-PS5 upgrade. At least the Japanese lip-sync has been fixed.
Was really expecting a RT Performance mode as well. This upgrade is too barebones for $10 imo.
That's some really weird set of complaints
@@certaindegree8998 Indeed
Most game's run their cutscene's at 30 to not allow issue's, that's a standard's even today
@@lordbauer5983 not to mention you actually have to buy the expansion to be able to buy the upgrade :/
Also I’m glad they added a lock on feature , even though it played great without one , the inclusion makes it only better , especially for mopping up a single character you want to stay locked onto , it works best when not locking on in big crowds , but when finishing off the last couple , it really adds to the fighting tactics !
Doesn't matter to me, I play great without the lock-on-feature, but it's a great addition nonetheless.
The thing is, it specifically tells you how the lock on system works on the tutorial by using the left stick.
Pretty self explanatory, you point your left stick to whoever you're facing. People complaining about whiffing their attacks either they're out of range or just not pointing the stick to the enemy.
If you need lock on you're trash lol
@@yousjiveturkey don’t need no lock on , it just makes it better for people that need it (not me )and I’m not trash I play it on lethal , of course someone gotta start talkin trash , maybe your trash and that’s why you gotta talk shit
@@WatamelonGod yes I know this , but it’s a option fir people that want it , I don’t need it at all , but more options the better , I’m speaking for others out there that might want it
I wouldn't want to toggle through the opponents. I think its intuitive the way they made it. when you are fighting a crew you know you just can't focus on one person but you have archers you need to pay attention to also. it would take away from the game to lock on to an opponent.
My thoughts as well. Multiple enemies rush you simultaneously, so WHY would you want to focus on just one enemy at a time??? Sounds like an easier way to get shot/stabbed in the back by an enemy you can’t even see.
I think the alternate configuration that allows you to use R1/R2 is more than good enough, since that frees up your thumb to use the right stick as a way to make adjustments to the camera angle.
When you’re fighting 5-6 enemies (which is most encounters, lol) a lock-on feature is absolutely useless.
@@barroxbarrox1857 So you’ll have to juggle the setting constantly? Seems like it’s just easier to not use it at all.
Agreed. I thought the system worked very well and was so glad to not deal with locking on, which frankly feels like an outdated gameplay mechanic in 2021.
@@lordbauer5983 agreed, name brother
@@jeffbauer1609 I witness you, name brother.
Looking forward to this expansion tomorrow 🙌 😁
Happy for you. But your 🧢 is hard.
When real-time looks better than pre-render, Amazing!
I spent so much time taking screenshots in the original.. Seems as though I will have to start all over again! 😁
Yeah. Photo Mode in GoT is worth 20 hrs of activity haha
Zero changes in the actual game, really. No need to redo anything.
Lack of lock on was no big deal. You weren't supposed to be stopping to turn the camera toward an enemy, just directing the attack/parry towards them. Anyone who'd played a lot of something like the Ninja Gaiden games probably wasn't having an issue to start with. Still, options are always good, but I won't be touching it 'cos I just don't need it.
I’ve become more comfortable with no lock but having a lock puts it more in line with recent games and allows a smoother experience for a lot of people. Too often while dealing with large groups of enemies it was difficult to keep track and keep control of the camera while trying to attack smoothly and deliberately. This turned some battles into chaos when I want to be in full control. But having a different control scheme will allow full camera control and smooth combat without lock on.
@@MasterMayhem78 By all accounts the new lock on, or at least the option that auto locks to the next opponent, has had people finding it's not helping with big crowds becuase it's often targeting an enemy a long way away next rather than the next one stood in your face slashing at you. Apparently this was even more the case in the new area which has bigger numbers in the fights more often.
One issue devs should address, is lots of them show tips in the loading screen. These are mostly super useful. But now with next gen loading so fast, I can't read them. They should show a "click to progress" orso.
So, there's no real upgrade other than the Japanese Dub sync and Haptic Feedback, got it.
Referring to the graphical upgrade to be precise here folks.
Also adaptive triggers
Well it is 4K 60 fps now so there is that.
@op another idiot who doesn't even take in the info Df tells us.
New story
And the inclusion of the whole other area of story content.
I shouldn't have to pay $30 for better textures and proper Japanese lip sync.
It's also got a new island to explore and additional story content
@Bloofa It's $10 to upgrade the version on PS4. If you own the PS4 version (like me) and want to upgrade to the PS5 version of Director's Cut, it's $30.
....The only update from PS4 to PS5 are minimal zoomed in textures. "Sony is asking for quite a bit of money to upgrade" D.F Torched them.
Well duh df have a bias for Xbox thats obvious they don't even zoom in on Xbox titles anymore to hide Xbox short coming, but what do ya expect Xbox feed them content and they aint gonna bite the hand that feeds
@@TristanTheVRGamecat Stop, they are not paid, they don't have platform biases. It's all in your head. they even joked recently that they are aware people have accused them of being biased towards every platform and they know its impossible to please people because they are damned if they do/ damned if they don't.
@@richardtucker5938 says you what proof do you have that they are not bias, when they not zooming in on Xbox videos but are on playstation then making excuses on twitter when called out for it
There's a reason why they always getting access to Xbox stuff early
@@TristanTheVRGamecat well going back to your original claim, maybe you should provide proof they are, you can start by linking me to the twitter chat you just mentioned so I can see how they responded.
I’ve never had played GoT before the launch of PS5’s Directors Cut, so I bought a cheap used basic PS4 version and paid 30 bucks to upgrade it to PS5 Director’s Cut, loved the game
My favorite part of the PS5 version, aside from the performance boost, is the Dualsense controller effect when sheathing your sword.
PS5 Coded, but not from the ground up Integrated GPU, CPU, & SSD.
Ratchet & Clank is the closest thing we saw for a PS5 performance standpoint, and the developers said that's the tip of the iceberg.
Stay hopeful 😆
Developers didn't say that tho. Source ?
@@ThDragoomba you need no source if the games are proving it as it is. Even digital foundry said there was hardly any difference in change, just mainly loading times, and the game isn't even a PS5 game like Rift Apart.
Rift Apart shits on GoT in terms of loading & map switching, and those developers said that's barely anything, barely the tip of the iceberg
@@DEADGAME1805 yeah I get that. But did the developers even say that tho. Do u have no source
@@ThDragoomba the Ratchet & Clank developer that came on to talk about the 40 frames update talked about how it was "just the tip of the iceberg." It's a digital foundry video as well
Never click a review so quickly, nice job DF
I really loved this game when it came out. I'm not dropping $30 for the expansion and PS5 update. I'll wait until it drops in price down the road and play it then. I'm really glad they finally fixed the save transfer, that was super irritating.
$30 isint bad, your supporting some of the best developers out there.
If 30 dollars to spend on one of the greatest game ever made dlc is too much, well I'm sorry to say ur in the wrong hobby.
@@bryankowalczyk3982 - I didn't say it was too much. What I am saying is that the perceived value doesn't match the perceived benefits. That's very different than monetary discomfort.
@@Loneberserker - Yeah, it's one of those lines where the devs do a great job, but I don't agree with the monetization of the publisher.
@@Loneberserker This was a scumy thing to do from Suckerpunch. The 20$ for the Iki island DLC is fine. But 10 more dollars for a 'ps5 upgrade'? Digital Foundry said they were disappointed by it. Same frame rate and graphics. Adding some haptic feedback, adaptive triggers and Japanese lipsync should have been free.
Vote with your wallets. I'm all up for paying for the definitive edition upgrade because that's actually new content with new quests and a new story, etc, but to have to pay an extra £10 to upgrade to the PS5 version is criminal - if people pay for the upgrade that starts a precedent and Sony will just continue charging for the upgrades, despite offering them for free thus far...
this is done to balance the versions, since sony decided to add an extra 10 on ps5 games, and since game getting a release on ps4 as well, if they let it as is, none would go for the ps5 version since everyone could buy the ps4 version cheaper. Its super dumb in general ofc...
@@Animedonoftw He said it's criminal hahahhaa.... So when SONY decided to give a mode(ghost legends) that nobody expected for FREE, did they then become good sameritans?
Pay people for their work!
@@s3rv3r3rror8 yeah everybody gave them props
@@metallicafan416 Yeah as they should!! People that complain ad nauseam Are like those "friends" that you go out with and you buy them drinks, and the next time when you ask them to pay for their own drinks they call you greedy l.o.l.
I didn't have a problem with not having a lock-on mechanic. I think there are combat advantages doing it that way and I found lock -on systems to sometimes make combat actually harder. There's no one best system.
There's several lock on options in the menu
I wish we had a 120hz mode for 1080p.
Just curious If you switch the attack controls to the R1/R2 is there a trigger resistance on the R2 attack?
Actually an amazing question
Lol
For $10 it should lol
I don’t think that would work well with how the equipment is accessed, they’d have to reconfigure a bunch of other stuff for it to feel right. If you want you can just change it through the PS5.
@@G_Rad_Ski Yeah I know I mean who can afford a whole 10$ smh.
That voice crack at 12:05 😂
This is the samurai game I always dreamed of. The way he controls and can hop around on virtually anything is what makes it for me. Too many games are gorgeous but the characters are tanks and the flow of things is way to slow. This is right next to BOTW for sure.
Coming from my original playthrough at launch on my slim PS4 to the upgrade DC on my PS5 is absolutely amazing! I get what they were saying about some of the upgrades being negligible when looking at it running the PS4 version on either a PS4 pro or a PS5 in BC mode. Totally loving this new playthrough. Going to have to give the new controller layouts a try though!
There was this time when I was at the beginning of the game and I was going to fast travel and when I chose the location and the map closed it seemed that Jin was still stopped and I kept waiting for the new location to load just to realize that while closing the map the game had already loaded. It happened just once, I don't know how to get the exact spots to achieve such speed, but that left me jaw dropped
The graphical improvements the PS5 has over the PS4 is the fact that the game now runs at 4K albeit a reconstructed version of it and it now runs at the hardest most solid 60fps even on "Higher Resolution" mode.
Besides that there are no improvements in the actual graphic settings.
This DLC however has alot of meat , around 12 hours of gameplay which is basically reminiscent of the GTA IV DLCs.
That should tell you something about talent.
Pay up.... il be on Game pass.
@@caknelson2254 I'm sorry but PlayStation is never ever going to put they're first party babies on gamepass.
Why else have they only released them on PCs?
Because Xbox is their direct competitor despite them selling 2:1.
What a colossal disappointment..it already runs at 60fps in quality mode through back compat, what was the point of forcing a $70 version?
I'm so damn upset about this. Fuck Sony this sucks.
$$$$$$$ money, money.. money 💰🤑💸💲💶💵💰🤑💸..🤣
Cant wait to finish my shift and play tomorrow. 4k oled and ps5.
You’re living my dreams mate
Good for you, but who cares about your tv or OLED? I'm just saying...
@@goldensapphire0 i do care bro, im pretty sure somebody want to play the game in ps5 and oled tv. No hate, im just saying im happy with life. Take care
@@LegionGaming226 since you put it like that... Take care too, I'm glad you're happy with life.
Even though I don’t have a OLED Tv playing this game with 4K 60fps on a QLED Tv is still visually stunning
Qled?? Mate I m running this on a VA and it still looks awesome!!!
I traded my copy like a day before the multiplayer was announced.
I’m happy to play this game again for another platinum and smash multiplayer 🙂
On a scale of 1 to 10 how hard was the platinum?
@@ambition0516 Not OP, but it’s like a 2. Really easy, it’s effectively just one hundred percenting the game and that’s it, the difficulty doesn’t even matter.
@@TyroneDeMarcusWilliams3rd he could make it harder for himself by playing it on the hardest difficulty 🤫
@@ironjerm true, but it’s not like that’s particularly difficult either.
@@TyroneDeMarcusWilliams3rd at certain parts it was for me, the game would kick your ass pretty hard in the story
Great video as usual DF. No way am I transferring my save file and trophies for Ghost. I am going to replay and re-earn my Platinum for this masterpiece again. I can't wait till tomorrow!
I think the problem with the paid upgrade to native PS5 version is everything they worked on (quite a bit) didn't add much to the game becasue it already looked great and loaded fast. They haptics would really be the only noticeable thing. Then the conversion of the cutscenes that add something that most people just aren't going to care about.
So in a nutshell, to do this upgrade they did have to do alot of work but the effort (thus value) is hard to really see in the end.
Yeah, I bought the ps4 version of the director's cut to play on my ps5. The price is too high to justify the upgrade to the native ps5 release. It cost much more and basically looks the same. I also don't care about the haptics, they feel like normal vibrations to me, don't know why
"It's using checkerboard rendering... it's not a bad thing!".
You know for damn sure if this was a series x they would be criticizing it for using checkerboard rendering
It's hard to perfect perfection...
Never seen such a "perfect" game get a relatively mediocre Metacritic rating before. 83? Pretty sure that's reserved for "pretty good" but not amazing.
@@Jayy997 Yeah I playtinumed the game and I think many people are letting the pretty graphics cloud their vision on just how repetitive and monotonous some sections of this game are. Id give it a 7.5-8/10
@@Jayy997 Yet the Director's Cut gets an 88 without any substantial changes. The things is, game journalism is driven by hype culture and new IPs always have an uphill battle compared old and popular franchises with a lot of hype and marketing behind them. That's why games like Ghost and Control can have scores in the lower 80s yet still win GOTY awards at the end of the year over games with much higher scores.
Game was an 8 meta. Plenty of room for improvements. Next version should be amazing
@@Jayy997 bruh have y'all played this game??it's not "perfect" but the game experience damn near is...
Thanks for the rundown. Looks like I can save my $10 and just play the new expansion in PS4 BC on PS5.
Uh, no you can't. If you want to play the expansion you'll have to buy it. It's not a free update
Same, just bought the expansion and gonna ditch the ps5 upgrade
@@A1Gamester Could you please clarify if I can buy the expansion for the PS4 version to play on the PS5 via BC?
@@amythdutta8081 you can
@@apictureoffunction
Where did they say it was free? Seems to me they are willing to pay the 20, but not the extra 10 for the"upgrade"....
Pretty sad that the graphics were underwhelmingly updated. PS5 native and small bump.
Yup and you have to pay for this "enhancements" I am a bit disappointed
@@femto8402 yeah... Idk it's just very disappointing to me.
Yeah i thought we would have the same e3 reveal trailer quality
Why is everyone acting like the game wasn't a technical marvel on ps4? I'm shocked they pulled it off
@@femto8402 You get a whole new chunk of content. It’s more like a $20-$30 story expansion that then adds adaptive triggers, haptics, and then those minor graphical improvements (latter then kinda being free with the backwards compatibility plus mode of the PS4 version, it seems.)
Dammit I’ve been playing the whole game in “Better frame rate” mode thinking I was getting some extra VRR benefit or something.
The only piece I really care about is the Japanese lip sync. It felt very odd playing the game with the English voices, and I'm really looking forward to having that full presentation.
🤣🤣🤣
@@The_Affable_Grump it's actually one of the selling point, they added JP lyp sinc
I wish they got the English voice actors (who know japanese) to voice their characters in the Japanese tho since the characters are modeled after them.
Lip sync aside the voices still felt weird since its much harder to match live action/realistic faces.
Beautiful game , But cant bring myself to pay the $29.99 to upgrade from the PS4 back compat version on my Ps5. Would have hoped for a little more for that money.
I think worth waiting for discount there must be one few months down the road.
Your mostly paying for Iki Island not these upgrades.
@@FJTabb Then it's a $30 6-10 hour dlc, which doesn't hugely differ from the main game. Either way, it isn't worth it
@@toeknee3302 yup. Will buy this when it goes down to $10
@@Name-fd2co what?!!! The main game is more than twice as long. You haven't played this game b4 have you? Your just going along with others people are saying.
Hmmm, so if there is BARELY any difference between the PS4 Version in BC with the PS5 version, then whats the point of paying $10?
3D audio, dualsense features, Japanese lip sync, and etc
$10?? In Australia here it's $40 for the PS5 version and expansion.. Unacceptable!
@@justinsaponari that’s ur government tax
@@justinsaponari they mean the PS5 version costs $10usd more than the PS4 version, not the upgrade is $10. It’s the same in Australia, $15aud difference between versions. The upgrade in America is $30usd.
@@akkibajaj705 Still don't follow. Metro Exodus did this but with a FULL ray tracing suite....... and all for FREE on a game already 2 and a half years old.
Why is Sony charging a 20 quid and then another 10 quid for such a lazy PS5 port with the same visual set as PS4 Pro??? Where is the 4 times more powerful PS5 being utilised here when the game doesn't even run at native 4K in this version?
Thank you so much for finally explaining to me why only the PS5 version gets the Japanese-dub facial animation - real time custscene rendering! Who knew!
I always thought they were in real time too. It's a far cry from the horribly compressed Bink videos games would have for cutscenes back in the day.
Enjoyed the video. But you guys should really focus more on haptics and how they are implemented, give more examples. Also, 3D audio should get some attention too. Thanks!
Can't believe John didn't mention the audio, maybe it wasn't a noticeable improvement.
@@bloomerb4162 Both of them seemed a little off. A felt a little tension between them in this video. The video also felt rushed from what they normally do. Usual they’d go into more detail but they just seemed to skim most points.
Kuz it's not that big of a deal as you super Sony fans make it out to be lol
man yes this...i came here expecting them to talk about the haptics, it says review i expected a bit more, petty
@@milk6765 nah it actually is really nice unlike what u xbox fanboys believe
Not all PS4 saves need to convert to PS5, I don't notice in No Man's Sky need to convert. Also should have put at least RT reflection with that upgrade cost.
$20 for DLC is fine
$10 for console features is pure GREED
I’ll buy it in the $19.99 sale they always get to.
Crybaby lmao
I'll get the entire dlc plus the criminal ps5 upgrade for 10 dollars only even if ii have to wait till 2077.
@@kamrhd the upgrade to Ps5 should be free.There's no excuse for this, considering that every Xbox Studio game already does this, it's pure Sony's greed. Simple as that.
Checked about 1.5hrs ago to see if you'd made a video on this and now it's here! Can't wait to play it!
Not a big leap from the original, too expensive for upgrades, beautiful game though overall.
You say this while Activision with cod pumps out 60 dollar games and each bundled skin is literal 20+ dollars lol…. Sad
@@Tsukino1011 just because other publishers do it doesnt make it right or ok lmao. Both are scummy
@@zachw6754 Nah when you consider all the upgrades from haptic feedback to instant load times to 3D audio to real time cutscenes it is a decent upgrade for the price I wouldn't call it "scummy". Most free upgrades are half assed for example Jedi Fallen Order had a frame-rate bump for PS5 and that's pretty much it. Publishers don't put the effort when it is free.
@@weaverquest DF themselves said the improvements arent worth the cost lmaooo. Sony is being greedy as fuck, giving no care in the world about its fans, and nickle and diming every single chance they can get. Spiderman was a semi reasonable upgrade/cost seeing that they added ray tracing and actually improved textures, lighting, sound, etc. This is just ps4 version slightly increased a little bit more vs the free fps boost. It ls mindblowing that people are willing to shill this much for Sony
@@zachw6754 DF glossed over a ton of details that for example Skill Up went over in detail. There are a ton of thought put into how to utilize all the controller features to improve gameplay. DF only cares about graphics and fps not controller features, Japanese lip sync, 3D audio etc. for people who care it is a decent upgrade for $10 (and $20 for the 12 hour expansion).
Awesome to see the definitive version of this game getting its own standalone release, however I do hope they add something to justify that extra $10 for the ps5 upgrade, especially for those not on 4k screens, simply a 120 fps at 1080p mode would do it for me (although upping the draw distance or general quality would work wonders), like a 4k/30 "cranked" mode thats basically just meant for you to go bonkers in photo mode with
Couldn't agree more.. I mean, I can hardly notice the difference between checkerboard 4K and 3K on my screen and they could have at least introduced a "cinematic" mode with higher quality in-game graphics.
I've been waiting for this upgrade for too long (still haven't finished the game either), yet I'm not sure now if it's worth paying 30 euros :/
@@Lycaon626 Yeahhh I think you might be better off just sticking to the back-compat version unless you plan on playing the dlc, from what I've seen so far it's seeming to be at least worth the $20 it costs without the upgrade, but i dont know if you can just buy the dlc for the ps4 version without upgrading on the ps5 system
@@2big4cheese35 You can buy the PS4 Director's Cut for $20 which includes the DLC. That's what I'll be doing as I have a PS5 and my brother has a PS4 so we can share. I'm not sure but I think upgrading to the PS5 version should still allow him to play the PS4 version? Anyway, I'm not even sure if I want to drop an extra tenner for minimal upgrades...
People havent got 4k?? Are you playing in the third world lol
@@Etheral101 I guess I am since I play on a 1080p monitor that runs at 144hz, and that our 4K tv is in the living room. I plan on using the ps5 in my room, on the same monitor as my pc, which is also what I do with my switch. I’d take a lower resolution at a higher frame rate any day, nothing wrong with 4K of course, but different people use different setups, which is why options to fit them is always welcome. Not to mention the magic of upscaling actually becoming good kinda negates the need for native 4K in favor of better asset quality or frame rate
Cash grab, will stick with the PS4 version in backwards compatibility on PS5.
Yea honestly I think I will too, obviously I’ll pay to get the directors cut PS4 version to get iki island, but I’m not gonna pay 30 bucks to get basically no upgrades, when playing PS4 backwards compat on ps5 is basically the same
Cash grab? Bro there’s a 15 hour expansion that adds to the story
The 60 GB expansion alone is worth $30 + added mp content as well
Kinda disappointed there doesn't seem to be much improvement in texture quality/filtering for things like ground and other materials. Both could be pretty glaring in places even on Pro, and you would think they would've taken more effort to improve that. It really stood out in places. A bit disappointed in the "upgrade" here, especially when it's charged for. It is an upgrade. But very minimal visually for most players. A native 4k res Mode with a 30fps cap would've been interesting. The checkerboarding they use is not the best in motion, compared to like, HZD.
But man, even just the texture filtering. You can see the filter distance at like only a few feet from the character, practically.
What they are providing as an upgrade is not worth the fee for sure. As nice as it is to have this somewhat improved PS5 version, it's pretty blatant cash grab to make people almost double dip.
Why no 16x anisotropic filtering?
@@turrican4d599 god only knows. It's been a huge issue on the PS4/XBONE generation, but the new consoles shouldn't remotely have any issues with it, but we still see devs using inadequate texture filtering often. It's frustrating.
@@justinsaponari it worked playing it right now and it's definitely graphically better. And Iki is stunning. 10 pound upgrade is a bit cheeky but when you have a masterpiece like this you can't resist.
@@pipgoesthepossum it's not a remake mate.
I've never played this as I play on Series X but I have been wanting to try it since release. One thing I wish more developers did is to release a feature complete and patched version on disk like these guys did. I know I'm part of a dying breed but I still buy a lot of games on disk. I feel like it defeats the purpose of having a physical copy if what is on the disk is broken. Whats really the point then? Glad this game has a perfect version of it on disk so it can be enjoyed for decades to come.
Did you ever end up getting a ps5?
To each his own. Dirt 5's trigger resistance in particular I wish was much stronger. Same goes for trigs and haptics in Returnal and Valhalla. Oftentimes, I have to slow down, going out of my way to appreciate the feedback. It all gets lost so easily when all focus is dialed into the gameplay. Astro and Control (well as Dirt 5's haptics) are the only ones to have utilized the DualSense to my preference.
You can't have too much trigger resistance for racing games as it will cause fatigue in your fingers. As someone who plays a lot of them, it would make me not want to play if it were constantly resisting throttle input especially. If it had the option to fine tune it, that'd be better
@@Ben-Rogue Dirt 5 is a little tiring, yes. Fortunately it's not a game you'd play more than a couple hours anyways. Me, I prefer as much feedback and resistance as the controller can provide. However, you're right, tunability in-game or in-depth in the system settings would be a win-win.
Feels like it should be a free upgrade
actual video starts at 3:40. also, if it is checkerboarded its not really 4k.
I am 50/50 about getting this. The free 60fps patch is already great and im not sure the $10 is worth the resolution bump and triggers.
Especially when load times were already surprisingly quick on ps4. The ssd speed will be nice, but not as life changing as Spider Man or Demon’s Souls were
If I got it, it would be for the Japanese lip sync and it probably takes less space on the PS5
What a bummer not new skill... just a horse one
I’m in for the fact that all cutscenes are real time which now has proper Japanese lip sync.
I only live once and I want to play it in native 4k. And it's only 10 dollars. What is there to think about? Wtf
Too bad this Upgrade is pretty lackluster, as much as I love the game, I’m gonna wait for a sale
Yes exactly not worth 70$ at all
@@bryxxdore4150 Since when is the upgrade $70?
@@bryxxdore4150 the upgrade is not $70
The 70 dollar version gets you the upgrades and the expansion. This is somewhere around 10 hours of new content.
@@FJTabb if you already have the game you can buy the expansion for 20 plus 10 if you want the Ps5 upgrade I think
Looks like the PS5 upgrade isn’t that valuable then? Unless you reallllly like the DS haptic feedback
I will get it, but for people that don't care about the haptics they could just get the ps4 version and save that invaluable 10 bucks🤣
It's the expansion that you have to decide if you want. Otherwise the backward compatible version is good enough. If lip synching isn't important, having all the cutscenes rendered in realtime at 30fps doesn't do much over the base game.
Yup
The haptics are unbelievable on it really enjoying it
No word on the 3-D audio? I know you guys usually talk video but that would’ve been nice to hear. Did you see what I did there?
Or load times either.
This ps5 upgrade and dlc is skip for me now just because of paid wall for ps5 upgrade. Game was already running at 60 fps. Sony you have become extremely greedy. As reworks won't last long!!
You are aware it comes with story expansion, right?🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@@ThaGeneralify no. The story expansion and the ps5 upgrade are two different purchases.
@@ThaGeneralify Even if you buy the expansion, PS4 owners still have to pay for the PS5 upgrade, that's the problem.
The PS5 update should be free with all versions of the expansion, it's a slap in the face to previous owners because Sony wants to wrestle an extra 10-15 bucks off them.
You dont need the ps5 version to play this game you do know that right? you can still play the exapansion, without getting the ps5 upgrade. There's already a free frame rate boost to the game. Quit your false whining
@@steve833333 why if you're on ps4, would you pay for ps5 upgrades? You might need to reread the fine print
Is there a reason the 3D Audio implementation (or lack thereof) is never analyzed in these tech reviews (while even haptic feedfack is)?
I don't think DF has a hardcore audiophile on the team. Frame rate and ray tracing fanatics, definitely. Not so much emphasis on audio. Sound doesn't get mentioned as much as other things here. I think ACG runs through sound quality and design in just about every review. I'm sure there are others out there that go further into it.
@@AKSBSU I follow ACG and really like his reviews (and their detailed audio part). But even he does not say clearly whether or not 3D audio is implemented on PS5 (-> he does for his Ghost of Tsushima Director's Cut review).
This is something really lacking today. I have searched everywhere and can't find any up-to-date list of 3D audio implementation in games, and reviews of said implementation.
For example, you can still find Assassin's Creed Valhalla branded as 3D Audio compatible when it's not true (and it sounds really horrible).
I'm open to any good site or channel about this if anyone knows one!
@@thierry2720 This is a problem that goes way back. I had a Marantz/ VM Series Polk 7.1 lossless home theater setup with the PS3, and it was like pulling teeth trying to get anything useful out of Sony regarding what formats and configurations were even supported in a game. I was dumbfounded trying to understand why Sony gave the PS3 impressive audio hardware for the time yet their employees didn't know anything about it. I called Sony regarding multiple games, and most of them flat out didn't know what type of sound their games used. Naughty Dog's games always selected the appropriate configuration automatically and sounded incredible, but it was much more of a chore with other games. Thankfully it's a somewhat better situation now but far from ideal. I'm not a fan of Naughty Dog's storytelling these days, but I wish other developers followed their example in audio options and interface.
Just make a guess...
@@AKSBSU Yeah, I have dabble in the audio setups for a very little time now, but the lack of clear information and homogeneity in the implementation of audio in games is just baffling.
The best example is the "headphones" option (when you have one) in games. Sometimes, it's a bare bones stereo feed. Sometimes, it's a downgraded virtual 5.1/7.1. Sometimes, it's a full-on virtual surround. Sometimes, it's even binaural 3D audio.
And that's before trying to understand what the 3D Audio setting of the PS5 will do to the audio feed...
I have come to this conclusion :
- PS4 game : 3D Audio off (unless it's games which had a specific Sony Platinum Headset 3D Audio mode - like Naughty Dogs games or Horizon Zero Down)
- First party PS5 games : 3D Audio on
- Third party PS5 games : generally 3D Audio off, but I'll have to dig on internet for more information to be sure
In 2021, it shouldn't be that convoluted to use correctly one of the most marketed specs of a new gen console...
I'm thinking of buying a 7.1 theater in the near future, but that situation makes me hesitate : will I be able to take advantage of it when gaming? From what you say and what I gathered, it's far from sure...
Honestly doesn't bother me at all that there aren't too many visible upgrades as most of that they did in the PS5 back compatibility update for FREE- Any other company would have held that 60fps 4K HDR back from me until I upgraded, but not these developers, amazing really, and I'll happily be purchasing on day one
i adore how the framerate analysis, which was one of the most core parts of last gen's digital foundry analysis is more of an afterthought now that performance is becomeing so solid on consles across the board.
Thats only because the new consoles are new. Wait a few years then itll matter again