Russell Brand & Neil deGrasse Tyson Breakdown The Physical Realm VS The Spiritual Realm
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- Опубликовано: 29 окт 2019
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Tell me what you think!
I think i love intelligent dialogue..
You want him to submit/admit but he wont/cant.
perhaps Thich Naht Hanh would be a better conversation..
Fantastic back and forth man.
Im going to ask you make a get em to the greek 2 or another movie in that world. That movie. Those songs have helped me more then i could ever write in a youtube comment section. Your amazing and fantastic.
Cheers
Mike
I think Russel Brand is a remarkable human
These two are setting the example of what people conversing with different idea's should sound like.
I think we are safe from Donny listening to this conversation.
I was just about to say. nice to hear people with different viewpoints actually having a civilised conversation from a position of mutual respect
Sleeping sheeples 💤💤
Look up street epistemology f you enjoyed that - I think Anthony Magnabosco is the current best at it, but there are many others already :)
That's because there is no urgency or real motive for either of them to change their beliefs and or trying to change/convince the other person.
Russel Brand looks like a guy who could've existed in any era
Anywhere from ancient Greece - now
He's a philosopher
i wonder about his ancestors
@Riina he's direct descendant of Plato
He is clearly from every era, time traveler
He's got long hair and a beard. That's all.
Russell Brand is the only person who can use 300 words to say ask a 10 word question!
how i wish my essays sounded
Kai greene...
I still haven't figured out if that's just his schtick, or if he does that to sound more intelligent /slash, get people to understand that he actually is more intelligent than the Russel Brand of 1999-2000 they might have first heard of him.
There's no denying he's a SMART guy. But he often seems to be biting off more than he can chew, ESPECIALLY in this example. Don't try and hang with NDT, bro... just ask your goofy questions and move along.
Have you heard of women?
He takes other things into context so he doesn't get misunderstood as he conveys his points. People could learn from that example, and Neil is doing the same thing. Can I ask you to write down a question he arrives at with the words preceding it, then your shortened version? I would like to try and break down the differences.
I need two friends like this to just sit around with on the wkend and have discussions like this without anyone turning beet red...
Lol
@Captain Nivia FACTS
The problem is, my friend makes fun of me for believing in god
@@LemonGoofball you need friends that believe in compassion reguardless
I definitely agree there. I can't have a conversation with my friends without them getting red in the face. Some of the stuff I talk about rubs their religious feathers the wrong way.
I love who Russel Brand has become this last decade
Banging Katie Perry will humble a man 🤣
like hounding a nice old man to an early grave.........
a confused hippie messiah type figure with a severe attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and delusions of grandeur?
@@purefoldnz3070 Confused isn´t Russell. He´s like Michael Moore, and confused is the ideological reductionist view that you spew. Not quite able to avoid type stereotyping classifications or own your own control-oriented assumptions, so you project like a rookie Freudian analyst. Don´t loosen your tie except to down some hootch, clearly. Better check your 2005 World Bank-UNEP Ecosystem Assessment, since the IPCC reports obviously trigger more denialism in your DSM circuits. Try a little scholarly research about Ralph Nader to fry your martini sucking when you can.
@@robinhoodstfrancis No what I wrote was pretty accurate lol. Hippy messiah figure with delusions of grandeur. Sums up Russell Brand pretty well.
Reminds me of college days sharing deep philosophical ideas with friends at 2AM. I much enjoyed watching two very articulate communicators explore topics from very different perspectives without judgement , condemnation, or name calling. The world could use a lot more of this.
Science and Spirituality are just two ends of the same stick
One looks inwards for answers, the other looks outwards.
In the middle is the mind.
S P No.
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And the other difference is science actually works.
@@chromaxetian496 Yes, and the other explores the mind. Different functions.
@@chromaxetian496 You heard of the 'scientific' term 'placebo effect'..? Or the atom bomb?
Only a sith deals in absolutes
Watching and listening to these two brilliant men felt like a nature hike for my spirit. This was really refreshing and healing to MY conciousness. Thank you.
Sell your tv
You will feel free
Just realize that they are not all that brilliant. There might be a 100K people smarter than these two. They are unique in the way that they can make science understandable to high school graduates. THAT is their redeeming value.
Never thought I'd see these two together
Malik Mclean that's what I love about Russell. He allows equal time to those that think differently. Gives opportunity to those with different views to speak their minds. All without disruptive arguments trying to shove opinions down anyones throat. 🤗
Why did you think it was unusual? Russell is not the antithesis of Tyson.
BUT WHO ARE THEY ON THEIR TEA HALF HOUR, NEVER HEARD OF THEM !!!!.
@@lizardas But Tyson is the antithesis of Russell. He treats science like a religion, while constantly degrading philosophy and thinking religion is the source of tribalism rather than a necessary precursor to science. In other words he "knows" a lot of things, but doesn't really think about a lot of things.
@@Bisquick he's a child of the Matrix. The earth is flat ... Science is a religion ... Medicine is poison
I’d love to see Russell Brand and Eckhart Tolle
Yaaaaasaaas!
It would be an epic struggle between unbridled thought and motion vs. unwavering power stares and low-talking... I'd pay big money to see that!
I think there is a video on this, I know Russell has great respect for Eckhart Tolle & has quoted him & nods to him as a catalyst for his spiritual metamorphosis
yeah man. they are like chalk and cheese but it would be interesting
Yes
Neil Degrasse Tyson keeps blowing my mind. He said something once about how our need to convert all of our thoughts into languages actually imposes limits on the ideas we are able to have. Something like that not quoting verbatim but anyway it certainly got me thinking.
You think so. How else are we gonna communicate thoughts. Also you can have infinite combination with words so you can describe everything
@@enviouslawn1665 I think you're confusing infinite with finite there ;p We don't have infinite amount of words, therefor you won't get an infinite amount of combinations. Also, you cannot use any word next to another. Which also lowers the combination. On top of that, we even lack words. We just don't know it yet. This is why language is an ever evolving thing. Language does limit your thoughts, because you think in them.
If you want to blow your mind listen to Terence Mckenna.
He's right, there are words and phrases that represents emotions that other languages describes that we cant and vice versa. There are emotions i feel and images that I see in my dreams that I couldn't even attempt to explain using the words that I have at my disposal. Search people trying to describe their trips on salvia or dmt.
a lot of people claim that drawing (but likely art in general) helps you see the world in new ways. da vinci is a good example of this for sure
The 2% idea completely changed my thinking regarding life on other planets!! I loved this open discussion. Thank you Russell!
We might not get it but AI will.
But why only stop at 2%?
But why only stop at 2%?
Everything inside consciousness nothing is outside
Wow. This does remind me of a quote: there are known knowns, known unknowns and unknown unknowns
But none of it is unknowable!
That's an amazing quote though
you forgot, Unknown knowns
@nutflixx knowception
@@BeauInGrace that doesn't make sense.
no, known unknowns, things you know that you don't know. unknown knowns is a different matter
I love how he gets people on who think differently. It makes for enlightening conversation
Excellent podcast. I knew very little of Russell and in a sense couldn't have cared if I did. But this conversation changed that. I now have a decent level of respect for him, his intellect & his compassionate generosity. Thanks to you both
Thank you for making this available through my Podcast. I actually really enjoyed the experience of being present, safe and not feeling pressured to contribute. It was emotionally satisfying, like I was listening to a live broadcast
His words spill out as quickly as his brain formulates them. I'm jealous. My words just don't come that quickly. I have the thoughts, but I can't speak that quickly. It's a gift. And he's poetical and lyrical to boot.
I was gunna say the same thing. Its incredible.
I think it is because he is in peace. There were little moments in my life were i felt so in peace that my thoughts and my conclusions could come out easily.
That is my theory.
I noticed it especially in this one too. I’m getting the feeling that it’s about trust. You just trust that the words falling out will make sense, seems as if from a state of no-mind. Awesome
Smoke some weed
practice
I absolutely LOVE this train of idealism, science, passionate, yet understanding debate. Two people, whom I consider highly intelligent, just having a plain discussion of things known, and sometimes not known but felt....
They're actually listening to one another and using their logic and reason....and sometimes experience beyond understanding to attempt to gain "KNOWLEDGE" and "TRUTH"....
Nothing gets better than this!!!!!
If only political debates had this passion, this goal.....an attempt to discern truth and understanding....for the betterment of mankind (womankind)……
Perhaps the best thing about this and the other video I just watched is their conscious ability to try and remove their biases in order to reach further for the truth...
Once again.....this type of interaction.....this type of journey....
It doesn't get better than this....
We NEED more of this.....
Shawn Chamberlain 🔥💯🔥
Totally agree. If you have any videos you'd recommend to someone who found this enlightening, please share! One love
Is it possible to say humankind or humanity? Because I want to avoid these bias towards man in language as well?
@@Sjahko_ Y'know the word man is in the word woman, right? You know the world male is in the word female too, right? Stop focusing on the letter and focus on the meaning. Mankind refers to the huMAN race: both sexes.
I Couldn't Of Put It Better Myself 🙏🌟
What a beautiful conversation! How lovely to hear actual dialogue. Thank you.
Your “life without drugs” essay shook me when I read it in 2013. I remember sharing it with certain people in my life that also benefited from your effort in writing it. So Beautifully written. You articulated something so many have failed at. It was perfect. Honest. Thoughtful. You surprised me and I’ve been a fan since. NDT is one of my hero’s. Many more science educators out there killing it....Brian Green, Brian Cox, StarTalk, spacetime from PBS on RUclips, Bill Nye, etc...you get the point😊
Without A Doubt Articulated Genius,I Love Learning From Someone Who Doesn't Profess To Know Everything ⁉️
Tyson is learning to listen without interrupting. I think that Joe rogan interview made a difference
what interview
He was just high there, it's just how it works for him.
Neil is the interviewer here, so it's natural he listens more. The interviewer is interrupted, not the interviewee. After all the interviewee is who we all came to see so he's allowed to talk as much as he wants up to and beyond the point of interruption. Still following me?
Paul Freedman no
@@exister4959 gud :)
By far my favorite Tyson interview to date. You are an amazing host and just gained a huge fan. Thanks for that!
Thinking the exact same thing while watching this..
Everybody’s Right ! A lovely conversation with a lot to discern for viewers with all kinds of perspectives and views on reality. It’s truly beautiful to see the conversations that’s birthed when these two brilliant minds come to together 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 gratitude for em both !
This was a perfect interview both views elegantly put without interruption from the other person. 👍
When heart and brain have a conversation
@david holdsworth aff that buckie bro it's no good fr ye
When two puppets exchange their rotten nails, JUST for the herd
@david holdsworth Praise the sun-Skyrim
david holdsworth yeah man people don’t seem to realise all the information is out there on the internet, ignore all these scientists and well educated people who’ve spent their entire lives studying the universe we live in, just watch a conspiracy video on RUclips and you’ll see the truth. Yeah gravity is a myth we are held to the earth by the arms of invisible aliens who grab each one of us at birth and keep us on the ground. Australia doesn’t exist, the earth is flat, the royal family are lizard people, 9/11 was done by the illuminati lizards and the space wizard who rules us all is laughing at you fools who believe the earth could possibly be round. Wake up people this is a simulation.
I married my wife listening wholly to my heart with little use of brain.
I don’t think that people realize how available, and valuable Noam Chomsky is, and I think that you, Russell Brand, could introduce him ( and all of his work) to a new audience. We’re so fortunate in that he is still with us at age ninety. He’s refreshingly frank about the value of love and his own interpersonal life. Furthermore, he is a scientist. Thanks ❤️
Indeed. Perfect fit for both science and love.
also a commie
@@mBobbleHatGaming - Yer a commie.
@@mBobbleHatGaming He's an anarchist
Bobble HatGaming I smell straw men
Honestly, I didn't think much of you when all I knew was your movies. After some time and seeing interviews with you, I learned how you were much more than I ever thought and quite an intelligent man. I have for some time now love seeing you speak. It is always so revealing and thought-provoking. Thank you for this video.
I loved that bit at the end when Neil was talking about the possibility of a being whose simplest thoughts would easily transcend our most complex ones. Truly amazing to try and think about, and humbling.
Wonderful crossover. Two great minds,wouldn't have expected to see this. its so great to see a spritual person and a scientist like these two have a civil discussion about such a complex topic.
You mean two spiritual people and one scientist.
@@girlplanetboy i dont know if you mean they are both spiritual and one happens to be a scientist or you are referring to a third person
Jacob Caruana don’t even bother mate, I get what you are saying
@@mpuondak421 worth a try lol
I agree wholeheartedly. Although I definitely think more like Tyson I still think Russell is a great interviewer.
Hey Russell. Thanks for this video, (and for your videos and talks on recovery from addiction). We need more conversationals such as this one. I have at least one question I'd love to ask experts in science, medicine, spirituality, etc. I would love to ask him about the placebo effect in healing and how that may relate to mind-body connection, and then maybe later what that implies about mind and matter. If you speak with him again, perhaps you can ask that? Thank you either way. ❤
Great podcast love you both haven’t meet you in person but got an hour with Neil at the Family Guys Christmas party a few years ago and will never forget his generosity and brilliance.
This was great, Russell, thank you sharing something that is truly of value. Many great nuggets of wisdom in this one sitting.
This is the best NDG interview I’ve seen - he was really lucid and on his game in this one. Credit to Russell for pushing him on some of those ideas and getting him to open up. Well done Rusty!
I agree, I really liked him on this one.
Life as we know it did you even listen to him here? That’s not at all what he’s saying. Tyson is really open-minded. I’ve heard many interviews of Neil entertaining the likes of aliens, time travel, even simulation theory. He just doesn’t jump to conclusions, he’s a cool dude though.
Stephen Colbert interview is good too. This was before SC sold out.
@Life as we know it He is a science educator, NDT never claimed to be a scientist that actively publishes research papers. Most scientists are introverted and don't want to communicate their research publicly, which is why educators like NDT are important.
@@formulaintuition8756
Agreed
Just listening to this conversation was extremely pleasurable.
What else were you going to do, jump into it?
Fucking accurate
I can watch these two have conversations all day
Huge fan of you both! I managed to watch both of you gentlemen appear on respective episodes of ‘Hot Ones’. That was great in it self...both of you on the same screen!? THANK YOU!!! This is wonderful content.
Honestly this is quite literally the best of both worlds.
to me at least!
i wish these two would continue to have more 'conversations' of this caliber to feed our brains :D
Russel Brand is a whole lot smarter than most of us. He just hides it mostly with his dark humor.
Thank you Mr Brand. I am a fan of Tyson and I enjoyed being enlightened by this conversation. I hope you continue to interview people who challenge our perspective of life like him. Thank you
Tyson is a paid Shill
@@mrmensa1096 Tyson refuses to talk with Eric Dubay. Tyson is indeed a paid shill.
L 🌎 L
A fan of Neil the ass Tyson?
Talk about shooting low.
@@mysticnomad3577 what's wrong with Tyson?
@@michael_leclezio he is an actor that thinks he can prove the theory of gravity by dropping microphones.
He also says the earth is an oblate spheroid or is pear shaped contradictory to all the images we've seen showing the earth as a perfect sphere. (It is neither)
Frankly anyone that claims they know about space or space travel is just talking out of their ass.
Neil just does it the best.
I hope this answers your question.
I loved the discussion. The topic is fascinating! I would also love to see Russell interviewing Nassim Haramein who is a physicist with very interesting concepts as well. I would love to see what the take-aways are. Thank you Russell for your work. Blessings!
I love this conversation. Subconscious is the bridge that will unite these two realms, that touches the known and the unknown.
🎯🎯🎯
"Declaring something is, in principle, unknowable...in the history of what it is to know stuff...Does not support the contention that there are things that are unknowable." BOOM. Exactly.
Dartagnan Magic 💜
Ahhh so profound.....
Not true. Neil's a knobhead
@@CakeAstronach You were the troll Stu that lived in my nan's shed yeah?
@Chris Manzi what about it?
Russel vs Rogan vs DeGrass, all talking at the same time i need to see it
@Tyler Winningham Neil has
Itch nay on the Rogan nay
Let's add Jesse Lee Peterson...
Add alex jones
@@KittyCow he's too dumb sorry
Really enjoyed two very different and similar minds interacting.. I'd like to see more of you both on a longer podcast 🙏
Highly enjoyed this conversation. Thank you!
"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of existence." -Nikola Tesla
Science studies non physical stuff all the time. We just keep not finding any evidence for anything. As a linguist, I see brains doing brain things. All the time. Including praying, meditating, singing, calculating, etc. and there is no evidence that love has any different effect on the brain.
There is evidence for, say, meditation. It works. It a actually effects the active brain, in such a way that we can see grown of the hippocampus, and can see a change in brain wave function. So now, the effects of meditation are beginning to be known, and its moving out of the woo place.
We study anything people say they think exists. Ghosts, esp, cpsuperconciousness.
Those that are real, we might be able to describe.
So Tesla, in his own state to, is being deliberately biased. Science does exactly what he claims science should do.
Tanya Nguyen modern science is a cult nothing is factual or true,it’s all theories which are mostly know debunked yet still get taught in schools,colleges and universities.
It’s pretty sad
Ladles of gravy - I don’t believe in blanket, “trust me” statements. Please list some of these theories which have been debunked in moder science, andwho did the debunking.
Evolution? Atomic theory? Star formation? Germ theory? Particle theory? Thermodynamics? Fluid dynamics? Gravity? Relativity? Radiation theory?
Tanya Nguyen
Here’s just one for the starters.
If you wanna read his papers on it,it’s by dr oleg jefimenko
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Tanya Nguyen particles theory
ruclips.net/video/umXt2dmR4j4/видео.html
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"I can measure things your body doesn't even know is going on in front of you right now."
Boom!
The body wouldn't know. Cleverly worded statement.
This is amazing. Two of the most open minded folks representing the two different brain hemispheres (so to speak) coming together to take us to the next paradigm. This discourse is a must if we are to have a constructive and liberating future.
Lol. Neil is renowned as one of the most close minded and ideological media personalities
Great discussion, thanks Russell. Thoroughly enjoy your take on life and spirituality.
And THAT’s why Neil is the best communicator of science. His beautiful use of language to fundamentally explain nature is uncontested by anyone alive today.
he is , without doubt, a complete shill - spreading misinformation, a traitor to humanity
givorget such empty statements only reveal your ignorance.
DjRenect Overstated.
Chris Dragotta if you don’t agree with an opinion its a common custom to counter a statement with an argument to back yours.
Doesn't he use this ( practically verbatim) pitch in most of his podcast discussions nowadays. (Talking bout Neil)
Oh wow. This was incredible. I would watch this whole conversation in its entirety. Please upload! 🙏🏼
Thanks for these pod casts! Please keep them coming!
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Absolutely brilliant session. Thank you!
Finally someone who lets his guests speak
Cough Rogan! Cough :)
Chris Hardwick does that as well, even 'more', really amazing podcasts as well
Melvin van Galen
Finally you found someone is a more honest statement 🤜
@islanti Joe is about dumb as rocks tho let's be honest lol
Refreshing isn’t it! I think it’s rooted to his 12 step work (getting out of selfish mindsets) and meditation (slowing down reactivity), but maybe he always had a knack for listening! -love RB!
Another great interviewer is Lewis Howes - check out the school of greatness podcast.
Tyson is being awfully respectful for something he doesn't believe at all.
Actually, he´s just showing showing the sweet side of arrogance and denialism in Scientism. Hey, ha, ha, graviity has just 4 books. Not like that woo "consciiousness" stuff. Yeah, "spiritual," it means different things tp everybody. Uh, and what about Psychology and Comparative Religion, or the Philosophy of Religion? The guy knows what he wants to do, but he doesn´t have a clue who knows a lot more than he does.
@@robinhoodstfrancis nahh u reaaching
@@robinhoodstfrancis you misunderstood him, especially on his point about consciousness. They both were talking about consciousness on a scientific level, Russel made the point that SCIENTISTS haven't figured it out yet, and Neil thoroughly backed up that point. Neil wasn't criticising or dismissing the spiritual viewpoint of consciousness at all, he was literally criticizing science's lack of advancement in that particular field. OP was right, Neil was awfully respectful and as someone who loves science as much as spirituality that made me happy
@@tjr6900 Nahh. I´m telling it like it is. You bending down to science like a street kid at a car store window.
@@MrFlameRad Neil was respectful? Because he´s a polished showman and not overtly rabid like Dawkins in this exchange with Brand? . You love spirituality and science? I have loved them for decades, and have been studying the likes of Templeton prize winners so that now I have already developed an understanding worthy of SJ Gould´s "Magesteria" and F Capra´s General System´s Theory. You like Tyson´s likeable style, and want to believe that he wouldn´t say something poorly informed and crassly uninformed? His reducing spirituality to "scientific knowledge" in this exchange is naive, and a quick search turns up confirmation of his deeper Scientism. He has said things like, "If you believe the Christian story of Jesus, you can´t call Scientology crazy" and "When I look at the universe and all the ways the universe wants to kill us, I find it hard to reconcile that with statements of beneficence." So you know, "Crazy" is not an adequate term for Jesus, nor is it discreetly made for careful analysis of much relevant information about anything like shamanic and religious experience. "Wants to kill us" personifies the Universe non-scientifically, and shows Tyson to be functionally illiterate in historical sociology, since Science itself has arisen through elements of that "beneficence" embodied in Jesus´ life, mission, and message. Tyson is a showman and Scientism ideologue who has no appropriate knowledge of even the scientifically measured benefits of meditation. As for you, who "loves science and spirituality," your "love" is not quite that well-informed, you need to know. Here´s a good clue for your path, Science needs to be understood as a form of Philosophy, Religion needs to be understood more widely through Philosophy, General Systems Theory puts all forms of modern Philosophy in perspective, and Religion´s underlying spirituality and basis for modern Philosophy more widely laid out. That´s what I can do. You try to make sense of that instead of sucking up to celebrity gossip opinionators abusing, misusing, and confusing their credentials and involvement with Science as if Astronomy were Divine Love itself.
great recording, conversation, and great questions. nicely done russel
The 2 sides of my mind - the spiritual believer and the science believer - are loving this back and forth . So fascinating and thought provoking
this keanu reves bro knows how to have a conversation and understand it. he is far better than most tv hosts who get lost after 2 sentences
Where do u see keanu reeves?
Correct
Hallucinating Keanu can't be a bad thing
John Wick
@@retrospecative2454 You know, the bloke who did this video
Russell and Neil please PLEASE create an animated series called "Timmy the Alien"
?
@Russell This was absolutely fantastic to watch and listen to!! Thank you so much for sharing this! You both speak your thoughts and opinions in such a calm and articulate way.
*Just a quick heads up, there's a typo with Neil's last name in the description. I wanted to send it in a more behind-the-scenes way, but I didn't see the option. Sorry =/
Wow this was so amazing. Have more like these Russel
I feel like Russel Brand’s videos are the next piece in my beautiful path I have been on and am on. I have been avoiding getting too into Russel because I wasn’t ready, I am ready!!!
Love 2 people like this getting together and having a good honest chat.
Absolutely epic! Please do this again and often.
This was soooooo good!! Thank you for sharing, Russell!
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A universal language,
beyond intellect,
where the heart
sing's softly...in silence.
"Know thyself" - Socrates.
But you are not able to recognise that mathematics is the langauge of the universe and not your heart. let your brain engage with the real evidence because as you know physics is everything.
@@ministryofarguments3525 mathematics is the language of the physical universe. What I am trying to convey is beyond physics, a universe which can only be felt.
@@ministryofarguments3525 consciousness cannot be wholly explained by physics, so here comes the immaterial/ non-physical which open to the field of metaphysics.
@@simpleguy38 Well the last time I checked there is no positive evidence for any 'willo the wisp' characterisation so nothing worth bothering about. Can you identify any neural activity with your philosophical metaphysics?
@@wendylady69 So you believe that there is another universe beyond our physical universe that you are totally immersed in? Is that a part of a multiverse? How do you know this?
Love the interview... love the content.. Russell keep it up my friend!!
I want to hear the rest of the talk! I absolutely love this exchange of viewpoints!
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Two very different perspectives on life, the universe and everything. Thank you for this.
Let’s just agree that Russel Brand and Neil DeGrasse Tyson has different view of unknown.
Drop the Full Interview yo!!
We're all learning! Love each other in the process :)
Even though I’m seeing this a few years late, this is the most satisfying meeting of minds that I’ve experienced in a very long time. Thank you.
Thank science that I wasn't rubbing crystals to beat my colon cancer last month. Lol side note I appreciate these two sitting down and having a conversation.
The unknown is truly what drives our species forward. As human we've always asked; why, what, how, when and where.
Eremon1 sometimes it drive society into madness for this that question the physicality of our universe
We call the answers to these questions 'knowledge'. For example the question 'WHY? ' . The answer is some cause that happened in the past i.e the cause and the effect. The answer to the effect is the cause. So our knowledge is based on cause and effect which is of course the product of our perception of time i.e past, present and future. So if there exists something beyond our perception of time, then that cannot be reduced to knowledge coz of the above stated reasoning. So it must be a state with out a question and without an answer.
Great interview. Most sensible ideas I've ever heard from Neil. Thank you.😊
I have a great book " Quantum Questions" and it had alot of the great physicists of the time writing about the relevance of quantum physics to spiritual life or reality , einstien , bohr, schrodenger etc etc
I feel like they were having two different conversations lol
Tyson subliminaly was avoiding Russels question because he is wrong to proclaim that humans have the capacity to know everything that is to know. We are a product of reality and we are bound by rules, limited by senses...
Sofian Daoudi good observation! Got me questioning tyson🤔
That one part especially where NDGT was talking about senses and how if someone were to tell him that they had ESP and he would one up them because he had scientific sensors capable if 12 different senses. How does that even compare? Like if someone were to accurately and demonstrably predicted the immediate future then that would disqualify a lot of scientific work. Then it would be difficult to like NDGT actively circumvent the glaring question of how to explain the unnatural using natural laws.
Sofian Daoudi he didn’t say that. He said he wasn’t convinced humans couldn’t figure everything out. Not the same thing.
Ephraim Kelemu what exactly do you mean by the unnatural? Do you mean it like artificial? As in something humans make? Or do you mean something that is not a part of the natural world? Would a concept be something you would consider unnatural?
Russell you managed to get Neil Degrasse Tyson to say things off of the top of his head, in the moment :) not many people seem to be able to do that! Just a thought!
It's the 'jesus' hands
A brilliant discussion between two brilliant minds! Very interesting interview!
Really enjoyed this video, Russel, you and Neil are two of my favourite thinkers!
finally a spiritual person that makes sense. Loved the conversation.
Where can I watch the whole conversation?
deGrasse Tyson: "There's a difference between not knowing something and declaring something is IN PRINCIPLE unknowable" Wow! This is why I love this guy.
I'm a RB. Fan but I didn't know he had a podcast until it was suggested to me by ytube. Because I was watching different Dr.Neil interviews. Awesome podcast I wish it was longer but I just subscribed you should too😍
I’d love to hear what a “gut feeling” is/means? Scientifically and spritually
This is the bacterial biology of your body instigating a control over your mind. Your living ego from lives before lived to guide your spirit.
Well it's common knowledge among scientists now that consciousness is best understood as embodied and that there are literally neurons in your gut. Reason, rationality and judgement are not disembodied and abstract but based in feelings and the body. And to be fair, ancient spiritual traditions via things like meditation, breathing exercises, yoga, appear to have known this for a long time.
The inner Cheshire Cat' singing Lions and Tigers and Bears Oh my to Dorothy. lol
The neurons in your gut. It's a second brain
Culmination of innumerable minute empirical observations that suggest a course of action? Brain making stuff up? Cool thing is - we don't know!!!
Knowing and not knowing is a spiritual state and that I can know this is awareness of consciousness.
What an amazing video. Thank you. I love Neil but keep in mind not all physicists share his views on spirituality. It's interesting to hear their perspective however I appreciate when I see either a Doctor or scientist who say, died, were brought back who changed their outlook express themselves.
Im listening of this from lockdown for the first time......damn this is good stuff!
It's kinda cute how Russell is so expressive with his arms.
he's just one big cutie pie
As usual, Neil is speaking as people say these days, "facts." He is very good at touching on and explaining very specific inquiries with entertaining precision. The 2% perspective is magnificent. I loved this interview. I certainly try to keep in the realm of the unknown or at least as close to the edge of it as I can manage. Which spiritually, I refer to as the Tao, borrowing from Taoist philosophies. The realm of knowledge is so vast that there is always something unknowable to be known should you be looking. Interestingly enough this is the first time Neil has said something I disagree with. I think without those 5 senses to help fuel our imaginations we would not have the instruments that allow us to prove the theories of the micro and macro scales of the universe. Observations start and begin with them. We need eyes to see the cosmos. Without those senses we would be like Helen Keller trying to teach Helen Keller. So I think the senses play the most important role in making the unknown knowable. I didn't need a telescope or knowledge of known theories to inform my beliefs about the cosmos such as gravitional waves etc. I just needed to look at the ocean and hear blackholes exist. What I am trying to say is I don't think you can have true knowledge without understanding. Without our feelings/senses we would indeed be limited in our capacity for understanding.
Very well described. It is not the eye that sees, it is the visual brain region that receives the seen objects via nerves to build a new neural network, incorporating the seen objects into the existing knowledge. Which creates a mental map of known things, constantly integrating new pieces of the puzzle. Similarly, not the ears hear the sounds, it’s the brain that interprets the sounds,on the basis of what it knows about sounds. This is true for all physical senses. The brain can only make sense of what it knows already and construct new knowledge only by putting it together with what is already familiar. This is missing in the conversation, we cannot know what is not familiar to our brains and what our senses cannot make sense of. We would literally not sense it even if we encountered it each day because it would not be processed by the brain.
How do we know UV light exists even if we don’t see it? Because we could develop instruments that translate light waves into visual scales to understand it. We constantly need to develop things that can translate phenomenons into sth we can perceive with our 5 senses, otherwise we cannot handle them. This is why constructivism has already spread across all disciplines including neuroscience. Scientists in other spheres have long recognized that we cannot know the external world because our brains constantly translate all perception into some of the 5 senses so we can create a mental representation in our brains. It’s only in the sphere of natural sciences that people don’t understand it yet. They interact with matter, constantly missing to acknowledge that matter is always interpreted by the brain, which is limited by its senses and which needs to interpret everything on the basis of how it’s built. That’s why epistemology is the min important science of all, not physics, not maths or anything, it’s epistemology. Because it explains the limitations of our mental capacities and human perception, which are the base for scientific activity. If human perception is limited, nothing we ever measure can be total. And this is the reason another species can be 2%. BECAUSE our perception is totally limited by our brains.
I believe that what he Niel was saying here was that our sense on their own naked value could not make sense of the complex universe on their own. They have to be built on, refined, and adapted through engineering and ingenuity in order to gain a deeper understanding altogether. I don't think he was dismissing the 5 senses entirely
Thanks for making the conversation work. Do not torment me spirit. Times make strange loss of sleep. Tempest was outstanding. BAK
This was a really well done interview thanks guys.
Who knew Russell Brand is so intelligent. He has an incredible train of thought. I throughly enjoy listening to him. So enlightening. Of course NDT is my all time favorite scholar
I believe there's room for both science and spirituality in our lives, one can help describe the other.
how?
@@kabistroskeptica6258 First you would have to define what spirituality is. Believing everything is connected is a spiritual view to some and ecosystems are literally connections, there you have points of view merging from different sources.
@@veganrican606 and to some people it has to do with souls and spirits which is not at all compatible with science. guess it depends on the definition.
@@kabistroskeptica6258 consciousness isn't compatible with science yet they acknowledge it. I don't get it .. this consciousness i think is connected to the dimension of this world and the spirit world. Spirituality makes sense and so does science.
A conversation I would sit and listen to for hours. Without being bored in the slightest!
A rather enlightening and respectful conversation between 2 guys who agree to disagree and yet both agree they are searching, Beautiful stuff
He said that the fact we have scientific instruments let us transcend the 5 senses but every single scientist is still experiencing the information from the instruments through their 5 senses...so Russell brands point still stands
We need conversation sadhguru and Neil deGrasse Tyson
SADguru, another CONman.
@@PhoenixProdLLC have you met him or been to his place IYC or attended his programs , 😂😂😂or just saying that coz you don't like him😂😂😂or you have figured out a human being without meeting him or knowing his work , you are Sherlock Holmes 🤔😱😱😱😂😂😂
neil disgrace still pretends he lives on a flying spinning waterball - protip: get on Globebusters - the ground you stand on is not moving. water never curves.
@@worldspirit 😂😂😂what ?? Then How do you explain seasons and years then ??and a day ??
@@worldspirit I seriously hope you aren't that stupid. The ancients knew Earth wasn't flat thousands of years ago. An Indian sage even said Mars had water 1500 years ago. You flat Earth people are a sad joke. Lmao. Shit is hilarious.
Lovely conversation, thank you guys.